INVESTIGATION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY HEARINGS Before the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy Pursuant to Executive Order 11130, an Executive order creating a Commission to ascertain, evaluate, and report upon the facts relating to the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of the man charged with the assassination and S.J. Res. 137, 88th Congress, a concurrent resolution conferring upon the Commission the power to administer oaths and aflGlrmations, examine witnesses, receive evidence, and issue subpenas EXHIBITS PAINE TO YARBOROUGH Volume XXI PUBLIC UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON, D.C. RbH ...\ U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, WASHINGTON: 1964 For sale in complete sets by the Superintendent of Documents. U.S. Government Printing Office Washington, D.C., 20402 PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY Chief Justice Earl Wabren, Chairman Senator Richard B. Russell Representative Gerald R. Ford Senator John Sherman Cooper Mr. Allen W. Dulles Representative Hale Boggs Mr. John J. McClot J. Lee Rankin, Oeneral Counsel Assistant Counsel Francis W. H. Adams Albert E. Jenner, Jr. Joseph A. Ball Wesley J. Liebelbsi David W. Belin Norman Redlich William T. Coleman, Jr. W. David Slawson Melvin Aron Eisenberg Arlen Specter Burt W. Griffin Samuel A. Stern Leon D. Hubert, Jr. Howard P. Willens* Stajy Members Phillip Barson Edward A. Conroy John Hart Ely Alfred Goldberg MtHRBAY J. LaULICHT Arthur Marmor Richard M. Mosk John J. O'Brien Stuart Pollak Alfredo A Scobey Charles N. Shaffer, Jr. Biographical information on the Commissioners and the staff can be found in the Commission's Report. Mr. Willens also acted as liaison between the Commission and the Department of Justice. Contents Paine, Michael R. P(We 1 1 Sketch drawn by Michael R. Paine of a bundle in his garage, be- longing to Lee Harvey Oswald. 2 1 Piece of 16-strand string, approximately 45 inches long. Paine, Ruth H. 270 2 Piece of heavy string, approximately 30 inches long. 271 2 Piece of string, approximately 20 inches long. 272 3 Sample of wrapping pai>er kept by Ruth Paine in her home. 273 3 Sample of sticky tape kepthy Ruth Paine in her home. 274 4 Piece of string, approximately 24 inches long. 275-276 4 Curtain rods found on a shelf in the garage of Ruth Paine. 277 5-12 Copies of seven letters written by Ruth Paine to Marina Oswald following the assassination. 277-A 13 Check in the amount of $10 payable to Marina Oswald from Ruth Paine, dated December 28, 1963. 277-B 13 Check in the amount of $5 payable to Marina Oswald from Ruth Paine, dated January 8, 1964. 278 14-15 Christmas card from Marina Oswald to Ruth Paine. 278-A 16 Envelope in which Paine Exhibit No. 278 was transmitted. 461 16-18 Copies of letters Ruth Paine wrote to her mother. 469 18 Translation of an undated letter from Ruth Paine to Marina Oswald. Pappas, Icarus M. 1 19 Photograph taken in the basement of the Police and Courts Build- ing showing Jack Ruby, with gim in hand, approaching Lee Harvey 2 20 Series of pictures taken before and during the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby. 3 21-22 Copy of an FBI report of an interview wnth Icarus M. Pappas, dated December 3, 1963. 4 23-24 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Icarus M. Pappas, dated July 1, 1964. V Patterson, B. M. ^"i'^ A 25 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with B. M. Patterson, dated January 23, 1964. B 26-28 FBI report of interviews with L. J. Lewis and B. M. Patterson, dated August 27, 1964. Patterson, Bobby G. 5311 29-30 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Bobby G. Patterson, dated December 2, 1963. 5312 31 Copy of a letter from Bobby G. Patterson to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. Patterson, Robert C. 5357. ( See Armstrong Exhibit No. 5305-E, vol. XIX, p. 47. 5358 32 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Robert C. Patterson, dated December 19, 1963. Paul, Ralph 5319 33-41 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Ralph Paul, dated November 25, 1963. 5320 42 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Ralph Paul, dated November 29, 1963. Pena, Orest 1 43-^6 Photograph of passport application of Orest Pena, signed June 24. 1963. Phenix, George R. 5328 47 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with George R. Phenix, dated November 24, 1963. 5329 48 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with George R. Phenix, dated November 28, 1963. 5330 49 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by George R. Phenix. Pic, John E. 1 50-51 Marriage certificate of Marguerite Francis Claverie and Edward John Pic, Jr., dated August 8, 1929. 2 52-55 Copy of an application blank executed by Marguerite Oswald for admission of Lee Harvey Oswald to the Evangelical Lutheran Bethlehem Orphan Asylum Association, dated December 26, 1942, and three pages of related documents. 2-A 56 Copy of an application executed by Marguerite Oswald to effect the release of Lee Harvey Oswald from the Evangelical Lutheran Bethlehem Orphan Asylum, dated January 29, 1944. 3 57 Copy of an application blank executed by Marguerite Oswald for admission of Robert Oswald to the Evangelical Lutheran Beth- lehem Orphan Asylum Association, dated January 3, 1942. 4 58-59 Copy of a letter from Marguerite Oswald to the Reverend Harold, dated February 1, 1945. vi Pic, John E. —Continued -Po^/e 5 60-61 Copy of an application blank executed by Rev. J. H. Nau for admission of John Edward Pic and Robert Oswald to the Evan- gelical Luthern Bethlehem Orphan Asylum Association, dated December 23, 1942. 6 and 6-A 62 Undated letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope postmarked May 8, 1950. 7 and 7-A 63-64 Letter from Marguerite Osw^ald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked May 23, 1950. 8 and 8-A 64-65 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked May 24, 1950. 9 and 9-A 65-66 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked June 9, 1950. 10 and 10 A-B 67 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to John Pic. with envelope post- marked August 23, 1950. 11 and 11-A 68-69 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked August 15, 1950. 12 and 12-A 69-70 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked November 6, 1950. 13 and 13-A 70-71 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked December 13, 1950. 14 72 Undated letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to John Pic. 15 72 Christmas card with note to John Pic from Lee Harvey Os^A'ald. 16 and 16-A 73-74 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked April 16, 1951. 17 and 17-A 74-75 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked April 23, 1951. 18 and 18-A 75-76 : . . Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked May 22, 1951. 19 and 19-A 77 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked June 18, 1951. 20 and 20-A 7&-79 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked January 14, 1952. 20-B 79-80 Birthday card from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic. 21 and 21-A. 80-81 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked July 14, 1952. 22 82 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, dated May 10, 1954. 23 and 23-A •. . . . 83-85 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, dated June 14, 1954, with envelope. 24 and 24-A '. 85-86 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, dated October 14, with envelope. vii Pic, John E.— Continued P'^oe 25 and 25-A 8&-87 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, dated November 12, 1954, with envelope. 26 and 26-A 87-88 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pie, dated October 31, 1954, with envelope. 27 A-B 88-90 Letter from Robert Oswald to John Pic, dated September 29, 1952, with envelope. 28 A-B 90-92 Letter from .Robert Oswald to John Pic, dated June 8, 1954, with envelope. 29 A-C 92-94 Letter from Robert Oswald to John Pic, dated June 18, 1954, with a photograph of Robert Oswald and another Marine, and envelope. 30 A-B 95-96 Christmas card from Robert Oswald to John Pic, with envelope postmarked December 13, 1954. 31 A-B 96-98 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked June 3, 1950. 32 A-B 98-99 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope. 33 A-B 100 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- Marked August 23, 1950. 34 101-102 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic. 35 A-B 103-104 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, dated September 22, with envelope. 36 A-B 104-105 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked September 27, 1950. 37 A-B 106-107 Christmas card from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with en- velope postmarked December 28, 1950. 38 A-B 107-108 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked January 19, 1951. 39 A-B 108^110 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked April 6. 1951. 40 A-B 110-111 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked May 2, 1951. 41 A-B 111-113 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked May 7, 1951. 42 A-B 113-115 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked June 4, 1951. 43 A-B 115-116 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked June 13, 1951. 44 A-B 117-118 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked July 13, 1951. 45 A-B 118-119 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, dated February 6, 1952, with envelope. viii Pic, — John E. Continued Page 46 A-B 119-120 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, with envelope post- marked May 8, 1952. 47 A-B 120-121 Letter from Marguerite Oswald to John Pic, dated March 4, 1952, with envelope. 48 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald at the age of 214 years taken at the home of Lillian Murret. 49 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald with a dog, taken at the home of Lillian Murret at the same time Pic Exhibit No. 48 was taken. 50-51 122 Photographs of Lee Harvey Oswald at the age of 6i/i years hold- ing a fish, taken the summer of 1946 at Covington, La. 52 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald at the age of 8 years on a tri- cycle, taken during the Christmas holidays in 1947. 53 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald at the age of 8 years standing on the sidewalk, taken during the Christmas holidays in 1947. 54 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald at the age of 81/2 years with his dog "Blackie" taken in front of his house in 1949. 55 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald's dog "Blackie" taken in front of the family car in 1949. 56 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald when he was in the second or third grade. 57 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald at the age of 13 years taken in late 1951 or early 1952. 58 122 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald at the age of 16 years. 59 123 Lee Harvey Oswald's "shot" record showing that he had his small- pox vaccination on August 7, 1951. 60 123-127 Indexed black memo book of John Pic. Pierce, Edward E. 5132 128-130 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Edward E. Pierce, dated December 11, 1963. Pierce, Rio S. 5077 131-132 Copy of a letter from Rio S. Pierce to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5078 133-134 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Rio S. Pierce, dated December 7, 1963. 5079 135-137 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Rio S. Pierce, dated December 2, 1963. Piper, Eddie A 138 Copy of sworn affidavit of Eddie Piper, dated November 23, 1963. ix Pizzo, Frank ^eared in their newspaper. 18 459 Copy of retouched photograph furnished by the New York Times. 19 460 Copy of printed material used as caption with New York Times photograph. 20 461 Front page of the March 11, 1963, issue of the Militant. XV Shaneyfelt, Lyndal L.— Continued ^e recording of William K. Stuckey's interview with Lee Harvey Osiwald on August 17, 1963. Studebaker, Robert L. A 643 Photograph of three empty hulls taken on the sixth floor of the Texas' School Book Depository Building. B 644 Photograph of two empty hulls taken on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. C 645 Photograph of a rifle where it was discovered on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. D 646 Photographs of boxes stacked by a window on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. E 646 Photograph of boxes showing through the window on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. F 647 Diagram showing the position of a wrapping paper bag and of Lee Harvey Oswald's palmprint on a box on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. G 647 Photograph showing the location of a paper bag and of Lee Har- vey Oswald's palmprint on a box on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. H 648 Photograph of a two-wheeler, a Dr. Pepper bottle, and a paper sack on the third aisle from the east wall of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. 1 648 Photograph of a Dr. Pepper bottle and a two-wheeler on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. J 649 Photograph of boxes in and near southeast window of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. Tague, James T. 1 650 Photograph purporting to show a point on thei south curb of Main Street in Dallas, from which a bullet allegedly ricocheted. Talbert, Cecil E. 1 651 Copy of General Order No. 81 of the Dallas Police Department, concerning press relations. 2 652 Copy of a memorandum from Chief Jesse E. Curry to the Dallas Police Department, dated February 7, 1963. six Talbert, Cecil E.— Continued Page 5065 653 Copy of an FBI report of a telephone interview with Cecil E. Talbert, dated November 25, 1963. 5066 654-655 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Cecil E. Talbert, dated November 25, 1963. 5067 656-659 Copy of a letter from Cecil E. Talbert to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5068 660 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Cecil E. Talbert, dated December 10, 1963. 5069 661-667 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Cecil E. Talbert, dated December 11, 1963. 5070 668 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Cecil E. Talbert. Thornley, Kerry W. 1 669 Newspaper clipping entitled "Wrote Novel About Oswald, Saysi Orleanian," published in the States-Item, November 27, 1963. 2 C) A 250-page biographical novel by Kerry W. Thornley entitled "The Idle Warriors." 3 C) Thirty-seven pages of a novel written by Kerry W. Thornley after November 22^ 1963. Tice, Wilma M. 1 670 Sketch of the Parkland Hospital emergency entrance area, drawn by Wilma M. Tice. Tobias, Mahlon F. 2 671 Sketch of the Elsbeth Street apartment building in Dallas, drawn by Mahlon F. Tobias. Tobias, Mahlon F. (Mrs.) 1 672 Sketch of the Elsbeth Street apartment building in Dallas, drawn by Mrs. Mahlon F. Tobias. Tomlinson, Darrell C. 2 673 Sketch showing the positions of stretchers in the Parkland Hos- pital emergency room, drawn by Darrell C. Tomlinson. Tormey, James J. 1 674-676 Undated letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Hall-Davis De- fense Committee; one negative compo.site bearing the words "End McCarranism" one positive composite bearing the words "End ; McCarranism" two glossy prints. ; 2 677 Copy of a letter from James J. Tormey to Lee Harvey Oswald, dated December 13, 1962. Turner, F- M. 1 678-679 Copy of a list of property taken from 1026 North Beckley Street in Dallas, dated November 22, 1963. ^ These exhibits are not reproduced because of their length and negligible relevance. XX Turner, Jimmy Page 5080 680 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Jimmy Turner. Twiford, Horace E. 1 681-682 Envelope from Lee Harvey Oswald addressed to the New York Labor News Co., postmarked November 10, 1962; page torn from a ringed notebook and bearing the words "Lee Oswald, Dallas (Post Office Box 2915) Fair Play for Cuba." , Vaughn, Roy E. 5334 683 Copy of a letter from Roy E. Vaughn to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5335 684-687 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Roy E. Vaughn, dated December 2, 1963. 5336 688-691 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Roy E. Vaughn, dated December 19, 1963. Waldman, William J. 1 692 Photostatic copy of a purchase order from Klein's Sporting Goods, Inc., to Crescent Firearms for 400 Italian Carcano rifles, dated January 24, 1963. 2 693 Photostatic copy of a Lifschultz Fast Freight delivery receipt for 10 crates of rifles to Klein's from Crescent Firearms. 3 694-698 Photostatic copy of a handwritten list of serial numbers of rifles shipped. 4 699-700 Copy of a list of control numbers of Carcano 6.5-caliber rifles. 5 701 Photostatic copy of an invoice from Crescent Firearms, Inc., to Klein's Sporting Goods for 100 "6.5 It. Rifles," dated February 7, 1963. 6 702 Photograph of ai roll of microfilm containing a record of the ship- ment of a rifle to A. Hidell. 7 703 Print made from the microfilm depicted in Waldman Exhibit No. 6, showing a Klein's order blank indicating the order of an "Italian Carbine 6.5 W/4 x scope" by A. Hidell, Post Office Box 2915, Dallas, Tex., and showing shipment on March 20, 1963. 8 704 Print made from microfilm depicted in Waldman Exhibit No. 6, showing an envelope postmarked March 12, 1963, and a coupon ordering a rifle. 9 705 Endorsement stamp used for bank deposit by Klein's Sporting Goods. 10 706-707 Copy of Klein's Sporting Goods bank deposit slip, dated March 13, 1963. Waldo, Thayer 1 708-712 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Thayer Waldo, dated December 2, 1963. xxi Walker, Edwin A. ^oae 1 713 Photograph of the rear of General Walker's house, showing the area through which a shot was fired on April 10, 1963. 2 713 Photograph of a fence in the rear of General Walker's house through which a shot was fired on April 10, 1963. 3 714 Photograph showing the rear of General Walker's residence at 4011 Turtle Creek Boulevard, Dallas. 4 714 Photograph, showing the entrance to a driveway leading to the residence of General Walker. Walker, Ira N. 5315 715 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Ira N. Walker, dated December 4, 1963. Watson, James C. 5102 716-717 Copy of a letter from James C. Watson to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 27, 1963. 5103 718 Copy of a letter from C. C. Wallace and P. G. MeCaghren to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 30, 1963. 5104 719 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with James C. Watson, dated November 25, 1963. 5105 720 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by James C. Watson. Weinstock, Louis 1..^ 721 Letter from Louis Weinstock, general manager of the Worker, to Lee Harvey Oswald, dated December 19, 1962. Weissman, Bernard 1 722 Tear sheet from the November 22, 1963, edition of the Dallas Morning News, entitled "Welcome Mr. Kennedy." Weitzman, Seymour D-F 723-724 Photographs taken on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building depicting the location of the rifle when discovered. Westbrook, W. ,R. A 725 Photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald with two policemen, taken on November 22, 1963. B 725 Photograph of the parking area behind a Texaco service station at the corner of Crawford and Jefferson Streets in Dallas. C 726 Photograph depicting location of a jacket found in the parking lot described in Westbrook Exhibit B. D 726 Photograph of alley behind the parking lot described in West- brook Exhibit B. xxii Whaley, William W. ^^^^ A 727 Copy of sworn affidavit of William W. Whaley, dated November 23, 1963. White, J. C. A 728 Sketch of the Triple Underpass area, showing the position of J. C. White at the time of the assassination. Wiggins, Woodrow 5074 729 Copy of a letter from Woodrow Wiggins to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 27, 1963. 5075 730-733 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Woodrow Wiggins, dated December 3, 1963. 5076 734 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Woodrow Wiggins. Wilcox, Laurance R. 3002 735-736 Newspaper clipping entitled "Funds Wired to Oswald," published in the Dallas Times Herald, on November 30, 1963. 3003 737-738 Copy of a letter from Laurance R. Wilcox to W. W. Semingsen, dated December 3, 1963. 3004 739-743 Copy of a letter from Laurance R. Wilcox to W. W. Semingsen, dated December 2, 1963. 3005 744 Copy of a letter from C. A. Hamblen to Laurance R. Wilcox, dated December 2, 1963. 3006 745 Letter from Aubrey Lee Lewis to Laurance R. Wilcox, dated De- cember 4, 1963. 3007 746 Letter from C. A. Hamblen to Laurance R. Wilcox, dated De- cember 5, 1963. 3008 747 Letter from D. J. McClure to Laurance R. Wilcox, dated Decem- ber 4, 1963. 3009 748 Copy of a Western Union sending blank from John Fudge to HCO DC, dated November 15, 1963. 3010 748 Copy of a Western Union telegram from Prospero Ruiz to Ofieina Sanitaria Panamericana, dated October 21, 1963. 3011 749 Copy of a Western Union telegram from Mr. and Mrs. Harry Garber to President John F. Kennedy, dated November 18, 1963. 3012 750 Copy of a Western Union telegram from Hebel to Kurashiki, dated November 21, 1963. 3013 750 Copy of a Western Union telegram from Hebel to Lau Brasil, dated November 21, 1963. 3014 751 Copy of a Western Union telegram from Franz Hebel to Forte Dupee SavTyer Co., dated November 21, 1963. 3015 752-755 Copy of a letter from Laurance R. Wilcox to W. W. Semingsen, dated December 6, 1963. xxiii — Wilcox, Laurance R. Continued ^"'0^ 3016 756-763 Copy of a letter from Laurance R. Wilcox to W. W. Semingsen, dated December 9, 1963, and enclosure and letters. 3017 764 Letter from Doyle E. Lane to Laurance R. Wilcox, dated Decem- ber 6, 1963. Willis, Philip L. 1 765-773 Series of 12 photographs relating to the assassination with 2 pages of descriptive material. Worley, Gano E. 5047 774 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Gano E. Worley, dated December 4, 1963. 5048 775 Copy of a letter from Gano E. Worley to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5049 776 Copy of a letter from F. I. Cornwall and Jack Revill to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 30, 1963. ^ 5050 777 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Gano E. Worley. Wright, Norman E. 1 778-780 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Norman E. Wright, dated November 27, 1963. Yarborough, Ralph W. A 781-782 Pages 24 and 25 of the Saturday Evening Post of December 14, 1963. XXIV syci'£L Paine (Michael) Exhibit No. 1 Paine (Michael) Exhibit No. 2 Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 270 Paixe (Rl'th) Exhibit No. 270 Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 271 Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 271 n Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 272 PAINE (Ruth) Exhibit No. 273 Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 27k (a Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 274 Ruth Paine Exhibits 275 «• -Tb — Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 275 & 276 Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 2TT 'i.-a:::.lut L. . v-..i:; : ; lut 2^ll:y.i l..^ :>ri iaril J^xactly an I only h^va rn.: .. ,.. .. .. :: ..„^-.1:a1 lol.-;.jr i'rj'';; v;;:i ih -c; :.;al:o this tr:xn3lnLticn.) ( iivr;-:!::;^,';. ;'^ u .d^i Jan. 25, IS'6^!- '-.j^ter written: .-..c. 27, li^6: .rul *,, I koii't ;.now v/hat tj .'.ay. i cjn' luia'.; v;hothor it is "ootvor to JO quiot or to apoa!:. Il^in^^o ara alrep,,:./ iilii^ult for you, and I don't "..'.ant to troubla you. I want to explain tiiat 1 f^lt lonoly wlson I rofiJ throu;'^ your latter to mo. I v;.ao vox-y happy to soo tha Ic-..^.', juo \/ij.i I nad roai it I Vnou not n - . .'oi..r a ^^t you. You i "r-o-* 3 -0 £3 if 1 "ore on oil --^fnl -^.a" ^t r.o a. i.uu oloood " ; -V. -• f C3 ti^ 0. I" it tn.3, -lav:; I " 1 ^ , "\. o o, for-LVJ .i, oioiie. I ill not /a-it t - 1 ^ -^ -> cin 1 .. to -.at I o^t dr^p J z l^ 1 TOP SECRET •- . ,. 'i aiid t-i: CO . . .;., t!vr^t it ;-!-^'.:.-t to r-a. TOP SECRET Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 277— Continued Trannlatitin (writtan Jivn'RO^P'^ ^lP#^il^P'1P in I.uosian of tho orl-inol UUor.) ^\^r SCVUIC r Daoe.ibor 20, 1<,65 Ooar Marina, Tnoy say that it io your cholco to spoak with sonocno or not to opeak. That lo, If you want to oee rre they then would glvo --o per- iniaoion to naot with you. But I do not bjllove thie^ while I have not heard it from your lips, for that roaeon I bother you and want a rofuaal fron you and not only fr-m iJooret 3orvica. I alao wont to know if you rocoivod the letter v;hioh I carried to Hr« Martin's hone on Saturday thi 21 at of Deoonbor at about 12»CiO noon. Your (Ohriatfnaa) Card to r.e waa at tha poot office at ItOO o'clock p.-j. on the 2l3t. You wroto it after you received my letter or before? Surely before, ia that not so? Did you receive fron ne the lattor which I wrote on tho 27th and brou^'.t to r.artin'o hoiue on that date? Porjive rro, Marina. Ao I aald to Ilichaal laot evening, -In 2onoral I do not try to hold friondship when it io clear to no that a poraon doesn't want my friendship. But in gsoQ^al i"t is possible to find out directly from a person, from his face, his words, -if he v;ant8 to talk or not. But in this situation I don't Vnow. 3incoroly, Ruth In a Ifcttor to ir:o was tlO.OO oaah fron* 'brio P. Mowry Box 441 ulatarsvillo, R. I. V^ry likely it ia bettor to sond a chock t'.ion cash. Here is a chock for CIO .00. Consider It fron Joris .".owry. (this \otViT Dtaaped and sealed, but ^iven to the hand of John ffihome office.) tho riornns of Doc. 26th whon he v.at ojv.I trxl'.cad with no in his TOP SECRET Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 277— Continued TOP SECRET I-rlcny, Jan. J, l9:>i . v' o ^ to 'W) 3 -^j.' or lo-i uc o-^t,. o *«' o'l it ic ft n/i-i, l, w3 L -^M. ' \ c t y . t'-at it> -^ '.t ^. T ^ y - . u t j^t. it ij ^tDr not J c, tMiV. w. t I v;lll f - M out 11 V uiil to.- \' *ora i'* <- \ > -^ t. t o.'-i 1 p d ' \ J.-' -\ "loot 5 . J ;:, -J ^*v. .0-'-.^ I'l . ;tM nt. "' - *' o • V- ti n"t, *i .or ilanJ c:i I v;roto ro bo;;;iin to Wv.rr^-, a-.-.i vov^ r.oji'i ;;a.;t t; knou t> t all in v' aiicl in tha nornin^ at the :irriJ->-l : rnario rr.-cA. crC'ica aidraanod tc TOP SECRET Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 277— Continued TOP SECR^X : ai'jJia, loar, L?.3t vr5.:'ay (rL.ftcr r-/ l-.ct lo<.t:r v.aa ?.lnac'.;.= at the poat olTic?) !'.r. ihornG tcld r^a that ho had ^xclaliiod to you l'';:.t i '..':;uld lilco to 300 you. ilo ordcttl^.at for t::Q tiir.o bcinc i'^'*-^ ^^ ^•'•^'^ '.."lih to eoo X3, that ycu riv^ r:y a.'-i.-oa;:, :;j' t:;lophono nmbar, that a i'o^; otcpa fr-;r. :,-c'.i thorc is a telophono, th.at yc.\j can phono cr writo no v/hon you vish. Pino. I sl'T.nly v;n.nt to ',-i;cv; yov.v vta'aoa , If y,-,u aro not a^^^iina^: it, I v/ill v^rito yovi ro.jilarly, and v;haa it ic c ^^-ivoni ont to you 1 v.-.u;t to apeak and civat ..i':ia you. ''Jou Vaii;: th.at I ^lave no bottor fi-ifsnd .1:1 'iur.aa than you. I tall: v/ith rorsthy (aoi^hb'j.-) and i^r a. .. ...i;;, lut we are not cl:>oo. It io not lil:^ v.'ith xy fi^ioiida in h.liadi-?-r.hia and vJith you. ;iy tha wayj Dorothy irito.ida to bcvo. -..jy ai'G b\iilciin-; a no-..- hcn-i aoar hor hur.-,b:uid' a v,'o\'k. Dorothy told 1.-.3 that if you v-'loh to ucd tho bassinotto no\) -it uoudd bo fino. Very lih'jly you don't ii'ioJ. i\., but I UL^at ..cu to i-jr.ov; how hind she lo. If, by cViaiice, the baosino'cti; wc Id b^:: useful to you, Secret iiervioc o-;.-! c-11 h^r dir::!obl:- -3b 5-2766. It is not noooasary to opoal" w'it.h v.o about it. Toaorrow t^y ;-..othor-in-lav; la c^-.inj; for a v;oo":, l a:, alvraya -lad to 300 h'ir. I v/ill virito y:u la a uooh. A hi::a to you, llttla Ju.io aad haohol Sincorol,-, Ruth .. ro io a tranolation of thia lottsr for c3ocrot rjorvico if thoy wish to hno;: .:h".b 1 have v/ritton you. Mr. 'ihomo told rjo that a ti-a:-iclator in with y--: littlo nov;. (hailed to :-.0. Dox l^K)?, Grand I'rairio) TOP SECRET Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 277— Continued -732 O— 64— vol. XXI 3 • i'ranalctlcn: TOP SECRET 2>15 '..'cot :?th Stroot ::y reothor-ln-l'iv; h,\^ j^.lr-Qai-j roturnad homo lo.3t ovuidajr, and her liuoband v/it'n hex-. ^.rrivod I:oro on ZlvJi-zdc.-/ » II'.? It wuo voiy pi:; .ja;-;. t: a^G both of ll.a :, but :in !-:oa::ay 1 sloct for u long ti;:!ol I i"ocU3stcd a no'.i' .''r.r-.rs I'oebyc'.: CL\tal o fc-r ycu ( Spr In ^-Surxj or) < ,f; I ':.n_vo it here c%t l:io'i.o. I ala^ U.-.Vj -. ^ rlo,ai, (s'^'l-y) L>ttlco Cid j-our br.tii 0;''./Jci'. ir vcn irLch il-ooj t...i..;;;c; c.-^y go, ar.u I vdll brl;:^ t;-.0;^i to i'.artin' hj.;0 or to Ti.orno'a iji'iico, ;;".. tovjr io r.orj convonlo.'.t ".; rot p•2r^.^,; a \;of ;;i.ll iucn 3oo Cj-cli ^tl.j;-. I ':.^..o ao , I thiiik t..at aftor y:.v ".ir.v:> c-o.i Frc'i^ident' g Jolinoc.i'ci Jci-^-laDic-u ;.,ou cari ooo v.o ;:.oro oaoily« Io l;::-.t cc'i' I v.'culi liko it vory r.uoh if you tuid Ji^no (axvi of courais Hachsl) cculd ccuo horo to coiobrate" J'ano''9 birthday. 'lao fiftc::nth ulll bcj .ii :;awi:i'd..y, but it ic; oottor for ne to do tho oolobratioa cu '-^ri- y or tho following :.ondo.y. I cu-i bi'in^ you hora by car if that \;cuid b^ oj.:vonioat. ti:,'e yc'U '.cryto i.-,e "..'rito IT ycu foei iilco it, ^i-t Christ' ao picaco.'' already xjrittjn to you never:.! tl,:.jr: but V.avo hsard I "^avo nothin;;, -bcrao tsld r-.e tVal' thoro ir, r. t^loy"..:. .; -^ar cj, that i'.r. ; you oe'n call r_G uhon you want to ( bL ':^~16?£) ar.- aloe, o.-.r. v;rito. If oj^ctbcr v;oGh £;d30 by and I don't rocoiv? a reply iroiu which it is clear to jr.c thct you have read ay iettoro, I will scad a rcr.istorod Isttor -„:; llcll i'arrar. I v/aiit to ojo our ai^-.aturc and l;r»cvr xhat you liavo ^. yoursolf r^ooivsd cuid opor-od tho loLtar. Tiora, for tho second tL-.s, io a chock (in ulaco of cash). T^is tl:c tho r.oncy is fi'o:.:it hala^^azco yrior^da ::ootl:.z of tyo h3li:;ioua .-;jcioty of r i i on^m ( ZjJ^al. cr o) '^'t l-Qunov 3troot i.alaaasoo, hic:.lriaii ii'rootingo to yj'U fro;- .'uni, ora' u:;i^hbor vhio livco in back of r-.j. T-./D v.'ooyaa.rrp sho a:;hcd novf3 of you, a_id sai-i "^'^vi h-r ny rogarda, -:.a3o.'' K^ooa aftor thio hn- .'iow dautjh'cor uaa born. ~.'.'o •t^o a»u.» du,i.;ay, -ariUary 12th. All aro vjill. I ki33 you, Juno, Hachsl, Here is a translation into Sn^lloh. Gcnsidor it a leason for you in S:'i!rli3h, -ha translation is i;iv-h-.;rr !'arlna, Cn Viadnosday I apoko v;ith !lr. 3orrola, tho hoad of oocrot ^orvioo in Callao. Ho is vory nic-a, L-Lni wo tall.-od for a lon^ tii'.o. no advioo;'. no to writo you a Icttor at f-o .^ocrot iorvioo poot office box. I decided not to aond a re.-intcroJ lettor. I aiaply v;ant to ;:nov;: iiavo .o« rocaivoa lottora fro;-: r;Q viri.tcn on tho aiat, 27lh, 2'ct'A of Zooc-bor and tho Jr-i, iOth and 25rd of January? Is it ti-aa that you caa phono r-o v;hcn you uish ao I'.r. Thomo told r.o? saw your intorviow on tolovioi-.n. ^'oii havo loai*nod a lot I of hn~li3h. Fror:; this (T/) appoaranco all villi hnow (ao I alroaly ]-ny.i) t:':at you aro voi-y nioo, lovo yo\;r o'jilJran and aro p;ratoful to pooplQ. It uaa ovldont, of co-'jroo, t-.at it io still diffioult for you to opoaV: in En;^li3h, b'.'t all the S'lno you oxplainad your thou.-^hta vory cloarly and anawored tho n^jotionn v::r. wall. I arn vory 2^°^*^ that today v.'ill 02 your intorvlsv? liith rroii.iorit Johnson's conjiiaoiori. I pray that all <3;oo3 v/oll and that you do not boco::;6 too tired. After this I think it will ba eaaior to plan to saa oach other. Fhona, plaaac, I-arina., v.-hon you rotum to Dallas. I don't undorotani at all vfhy you havo noithar v/ritton nor phonoi. In anothor onvolopa 1 a;;j oondin,-; a (iittlo) booh v.'h.ich is noocDoary to know noarly bj hoart in ordor to rocoiv^s por liooion to loam to drivo a car. I want Go;'otl:-::3 to do a tranolatlon into Huonian vjith you if it v.-ould bs useful to you. I rar^rot that I h?.va little practioo in Ruaaian now; S!.;c'.i work tranalatlon) vfould ; bo uaofoi for eo. dincoroly. (I don't h: v; at all hov; to oorroctly '-.za tho ojbjunctivo in Russian.) :;ro is a tranalati.-n into E.i_^liah aa I hava alGo donj for tho past :;-; loltoro. TOP SECRET Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 277— Continued 11 TOP SECRET Jund ay, X'ob. S-t li/^H "..'clcor o'," You aro "n.v n at I'^nt,. -sut, torribl i fr-^^ I 3U-33S. I h-jco t--:at y .u cin r^a^ n-v;. .. t vor- liloi;; v.-.o r.c.. ;;i;oa v.-ill n-jl, ^iv-^ yDU p3ace for a "/hi!! 3. It is p'.-!orl I'r, "^a-tin c.n hoi p ;/ n 1 i ij iff 1 i,hi o . :'.y mcthar io flyin.- hore thin 'jvciin-;. oha vjII; b;j hora Jujt Iho an-j.Q, I -i/ant tc sao , •u if it i.) convoniont to ; ou soroti: c; iurin", -l.io \ioQ\-, I uovld liro yo- tc> oot i..- "-.othor, 3ut iT GO roj i. .;, ia :iot i;:.C3rtaiit. I a:- tr..inrj to liv2 r:: I'.or :•.! liT-". .ox* ,- a this la i-.lr.'?idy oaay . .'sr you, of coi^raa, it is otiii ai '.-•ric'lt. Cut perhaps you CT.n bo-":- t; livo liI;o otli^rs n?w . It in nocer.s ry to cxcoct that it io ccooiblo to livo z'cat viv/, piua b V : G.-jh a nor-;al lifa. I cnn corrc by to picU ;. u (^^ x o cl.il -rsn,' up v.'U^n il ir, c V .;:.'-, ar.d vjq C'\n o-.',j',_; a 1:^/ /^•'j a3 v?i J.id ia '-.pril. I a-- not.. \:.'ai-i itf tr.a nswocon. uot the-;, ao- : "Wgll, «htit i;a.f.penoi v;:-.or. yo. saw .rs. Co-,;ald?-'' — Va, ^ u-3 tnlkod ajout cailaron as uo.;al.' I hav2 fo'ind out that it ia pooaiblo to talk wi^h tho nav/onan, ansv/or t'lo qjestions, yat all f.10 3a. .a bo borinn; t^- tho:-. ^iiit i3, thoy riud little neus. iVith 16V2, / ptn ;Jtr9C?t 2";1|5 ;.. Irvin-, yjxas TOP SECRET Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 277— Ck)ntmued 12 joutnwest PanL^^No -i : - i o^-?K.„ ^,?..<- 7^^^. ^Z?- V/. -- /If' /ii Ruth Paine Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 277-A i! *^ .• u_ O •..-I-! ;-_ ' r.'\ icox.- i i ' i I ft Sj^ sI /^r N^Rt;i; •. . • ~ Ruth Paine Deposition Exhibit #278 Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 278 14 . /f ,:-:r •^ f "^ ^:s^ r"-:^ ~^ ^ J -4 .4 ?^. f r:^j 4. < 1 ^ ?>' l#4 1 iv5 i.i J ., ^f^iP-c^ —Continued Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 278 16 ^ Ruth Paine Exhibit 2T8a /2/ "7^-^ __— ^ L.^^^^. V/ "1. Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 27&-A Ruth Paine Exhibit U6l CV 105-767'* :". (3) to c;et Inexpensive care here in Da] las. T'.ioy have to fulfill a 1 year's residence rec.uiror.ent and Texas is the only place they can qualify on this. We were th is norr.ir.p to the Dallas hospital that hahaidii abiiii!i>.tl.'i^e cases. V .'e spent r, hours viaitlng to be received u fill out the forr.: necessary in order to make an appointr.ent to see a doctor. That appointment will be tonorrow. The \iait was dreadful, but I am hopeful the care will be good. My translating is poor, but the whole natter is interesting. KYDS also furnished letters fro.n her daughter dated October 15, I963, and October 27, I963, '.-hich are sat forth verbatim below: "2575 W. 5th St. Irving, To;:. Oct. 15, 1S53 "An other item I r.eant to r.er.tion. Dad did get V.A JOii uo^r.-. -^r.e ccrr-.ercial for "Kat...oflWiae. — h5 la schea-j-ei to be seen on t.ao lioward K. Smith proeran 'Issues t Ans\:ers', seen every other Sun. afternoon on A. B.C. -TV. Unfortunately they will not be showing; the program in Dallas-Fort V/orth, so I won't ^ct to see it. CARL threatened to get a TV set if Grandpa was en it, so that niay be a good thing. "Big news. J££Llias_acce2i£i:LJlfl=-3 lob th is am mnimum iiage & nothing special . about it," but he is very happy a.nd I feel things will ease for their.. It is likely that lURIXA will stay on here for sorne txrr.e , pcy.iaps "throu Eh Christmas or i\evi ^cars anyway , wit.-i ju^ tomJRg weekends as he nas the past two, iie nas Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 461 16 " . cv 105-767^ a room In Dallas at $8.00 a week currently. Tliey'd like to save a bit before getting an apartment I think, and of course MPJIIXA should be here: until she has rested soir.e from childbirth. _I have nentioned to M^P-v r.-^'ry t-hA-r '—^.-^ ^ pvolverl in a "Coooeratl\ isif- llho; the Com.-unists v;hc aotxvc ;his group. She sai tha^Vshe ana her forr.ei- nusoand 'were vcory mucn aware of how the Cocrajcists v;ould operate in this tipe of organization in order to\et their opinions over to other Individuals in the group, and Xhey had often discussed thes/ tactics when her daughter v.'as pr esa>pt HYDE concluded by stating Ghe undi^stands hsr daughter Is /writing an article for "Loolc" Magazine which will include concerning her association with MUSSINA end LEE .In^iMrciatlon HARVEY OSWALD. - 17 - Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 461— Continued — Buth P^ne Exhibit U69 TRANSIATION raOM RUSSIAM "I vould like to to live. Perhaps we will Vishlngton or Philadelphia newspa the 'Look' magazine. People there decided that wrote enough already about It. That's all right. Ky other-Ui-law prefers me not to write such an »rtlcle. Shc'a'glad that there will be no article and i; person June and Rachel. I love you. Paine (Ruth) Exhibit No. 469 18 —Exhibit 1 - PAPPA2, Ike Pappas Exhibit No. 1 19 — Exhibit 2 - PAPPAS, Ike Pappas Exhibit No. 2 20 302 (R.v. l-2S-«0) ^FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA^^ 12/3/63 Date IKE PAPPAS, a News Reporter for Radio Station WNEW, 565 Fifth Avenue, New York, New York, advised that he was in the basement of the Municipal Building at Dallas, Texas at the time that LEE HARVEY OSWALD was killed. He said he entered the basement by a public stairway and that oon one asked him to identify himself before being allowed to enter the basement. He said he was wearing his press card on his coat and it may have been obvious to anyone that he was a newsman. He stated, however, that he did not observe anyone who appeared to be responsible for identifying those persons entering the basement from the stairway, Mr. PAPPAS was unable to furnish the names of any unauthorized persons in the basement at the time that 0SV;ALD v.'as killed; however, he stated it appeared to him that it would have been possible for unauthorized persons to have entered the basement. He stated that he has no information to indicate that any person conspired with JACK RUBY in the murder of LEE HARVEY OSWALD. Mr. PAPPAS said that prior to to killing of OSV/ALD, he had seai JACK RUBY in the basement of the Dallas Municipal Building. He explained this by stating that on Friday night, November 22, 1963, he attended a conference held by District Attorney HENRY WADE in the basement of the Municipal Building at which time OSV/ALD was brought into the room vjith the newsmen.. At the close of this conference and \;hile still in tho basement, an unknovm man came up to PAPPAS and gave him a business card of the Carousel Club. PAPPAS later identified this man as JACK RUBY. PAPPAS was also able to recall that a few moments after receiving this business card, he, PAPPAS, was holding a telephone and was attempting to get the attention of District Attorney WADE. RUBY noticed PAPPAS plight and touched WADE and told him that PAPPAS wished » to speak to him. There was no apparent recognition between C V A'i 12/2/63 NYC p., NY 44-97^ File#. tf SAS LELAND F. LOWERY and JOSEPH C. HESTER/rea D„,, ji^,„,,j 12/2/^3 document contains neither recommendations nor concluslone of the FBI. It Is the property oJ the FBI and Is loaned to iqency; It and Its contents are not to be dUtrlbuted outside your agency. Pappas Exhibit No. 3 21 NY 44-974 WADE and RUBY and PAPPAS said he had no reason to believe that they are acquainted. MT-, PAPPAS advised that he has no knowledge of any relp.tiouship or prior acquaintance between OSWALD and RUBY. Cd\ S, Pappas Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 22 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIG/ "^ON ./ (^ , j- . 7/1/64 Date Viy. PAPPAS, News Reporter, for. Radio Station \\ IICE | •JNEV/, 565 Fifth Avenue, New York City, furnished the \ \ following information: He was in Dallas, Texas on November 24, 1963 working IS a news reporter for Radio Station VJNEV/. He had a tape recorder with him on that day and made a recording both on :he third floor of the Dallas Municipal Building and in :he basement of the Municipal Building. The original 5f this tape is in the possession of the Radio Sation. PAPPAS ran off portions of the tape vjhich v;as made is OSV/ALD was brought out on the third floor and also as 3SV/ALD was led. through the basement of the building. PAPPAS Jointed out that on the third floor with him when OSWALD /as led out were two other reporters; one was MICKEY CARROLL I reporter for the New York "Herald Tribune;" and another i'eporter whose name he could not recall. As OSWALD was .ed out into the hallway either PAPPAS or CARROLL asked . ' iim whether he had anything to say. OSWALD'S reply which , ras recorded on the tape was that he wanted to see a representative of the American Civil Liberties Union. Immediately after this, OSV/ALD was placed in an !levator and PAPPAS ran down four flights of stairs to the >asement and arrived in the basement before OSV/ALD was led . .nto the basement by the Dallas Police Department. PAPPAS kept the tape recorder running continously md he remarked, as is recorded on the tape, that OSV/ALD /as being brought into the basement by the Dallas Pol:.oe. ;aptain WILL FRITZ was in front of OSWALD and OSWALD was 'lanked by two officers. -—Exhibit 4 - PAPPAS, lice /30/64 New York, llew York ^., . NY 44-974 5AS EUGENE W. O'NEILL and JAMES J. ROGE:^S;rea Pcte dictated lAM ammendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It Is the property of the FBI and la loaned not to be dlstribut.-- outside your agency. Pappas Exhibit No. 4 v/ , •^^ 2 V NY 44-974 PAPPAS estimated that OSWALD walked 20 feet and when he was Just abreast of PAPa?ASj PAPPAS pointed the microphone towards OSWALD and asked him^ "Do you have anything to say in your behalf?" At this time PAPPAS had a microphone in his right hand and the tape recorder in his leftlmnd and he estimates he was about five or six feet from OSV/ALD. Just as PAPPAS asked the above question, he was conscious- of someone passing by him on his left about two or three feet away. PAPPAS was certain that this individual did not brush against him. PAPPAS then heard a shot and observed OSVJALD fall to the ground and OSl'/ALD's assailant who was later;, determined to be JACK RUBY was seized by Dallas Police Officers and fell to the ground. He did not hear RUBY make any utterances at the time of the shooting or while • shooting OSV/ALD. PAPPAS observed that V7hen RUBY fell, he fell away from PAPPAS and tov/ards the door from which OSWALD had emsrged a few moments before. PAPPAS said he appears in the Associated Press photo- graph which has received wide-spread circulation and was made almost at the instant OSWAID was shot. He furnished a copy of the photograph and he pointed out that he is . standing just to the right of RUBY in this photograph. PAPPAS also furnished a series of six photograi^hs v;hich he believed were made by Uni'ted Press International .•(UPl) and were made at the time of the shooting. He pointed out that he appears in four of these photographs, just to the right of RUBY. PAPPAS furnished a copy of the entire tape described above and he also furnished copies of the above- mentioned photographs. Pappas Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 24 Patterson Exhibit A _ FEDERAL ZU'k'ilk'J Or iXV>ii i^/^ . iv>in i-'i tiie iiGccI cc^r lot of JCI-^yiCY ni:"i;^73LD3' on oha cf i;o::-;20on oZ .Co vcu:"^ o r 22 , 1 S £3 . .03 Dspartuont. At this _ i:: -.^s ooO 3^oo:: o- .3 r_ot obsorvec z,z^-^ ''-^V eitaer he, PAT-l'Jir.S'C r^-j^ozs. O'Z ITovc-ibei' 22, lOoS, rur.~in2 sou til ozi Puttc .ui ^viti a tvec-^Oii ixi his hand. C? • -7 C- l/^S/g<-- Dc^o clictctcc; concluclona of iho m. U Is Iho property o( tho FBI and Is loanod Patteeson (B. M.) Exhibit A 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 4 25 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION In Reply, FUa— Rajm- to FiUNo. Dallas, Texas August 27, 1964 LEE HARVEY OSWALD By letter dated August 21, 1964, the President's Commission requested that L. J. Lewis and B. U. Patterson, both of Dallas, Texas, be recontacted and an affidavit obtained from each in order to establish whether their previously recorded interviews of January 21 and 22, 1964, respectively, were accurate as to what they had seen on November 22, 1963. On August 25, 1964, L. J. Lewis, Kemp's Garage, 634 West Davis, Dallas, Texas, advised that in regard to the information he had previously furnished to the FBI on January 21, 1964, concerning his observations on November 22, 1963, of the incident involving the shooting of Dallas Police Officer J. D. Tippit, he desired to make the following clarifications of this previous interview: Lewis stated that upon hearing the three or four gun- shots coming from the direction of Tenth and Patton Avenue and recognizing the sounds as gunshots, he had immediately telephoned the Dallas Police Department to report the shooting. While con- versing with an unknown officer at the Police Department, there was so much confusion at the Police Department end of the tele- phone conversation, they were having ti^ouble making out what Lewis was telling them. A few seconds later, he noticed a white male, approximately thirty years of age, running south on Patton Avenue, carrying either an automatic pistol or a revolver in his hand, and while running was either attempting to reload the gun or conceal the weapon in his belt Lewis stated that when this . unknown individual reached the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Boulevard, the individual then proceeded west on Jefferson Boulevard. Lewis noted that as he now recalls, he had called the Dallas Police Department prior to seeing this unknown individual running south on Patton Avenue and had not called the Police Department after he had first witnessed this unknown individual. Patterson (B. M.) Exhibit B I . Ke advised that Officer JA^ v/as assigned with a group ::Kii^ to go across the street on Corsnerce to assist in searching a ^ v building after which time he learned v;ith PATTERSON of ^^ \^ their assignment. At about 11:00 a.m., a Lieujtenant PiERCE j^^ advised that that LEE HARV:ey_OSV/ALD v/ould be brought to an "" ^^ <• armored car and assigned PATTERSON to g-uard the right side ^"^JP/- of the armored car as it backed doivn the ramp. The armored |^ ^'^ 'this time. PATTERSON advised ti at he did not see the shooting f ^ ^ as he v/as behind the arroored car and his" view v/as obscured "^ c i'rom the area liiere LEE HAR"'/EY OSV/ALD was brought into the "-^ -^ •• basement. He said he did not hear a shot, A few moments A 'o after the armored car was parked in the basement he heard "^ >^ a noise and saw someone Jump across the top of one of the police cars parked in the basement. ^ PATTEESCW advised that he did not know JACK RUBY - other than having checked RlSY's establishment. He stated^^ that he v;a3 not personfily acquainted v;ith RUBY but v;ould ""-h, knew him on sight. PATTERSON advised he _iiad never v;orkdd \ for RUBY, as this vjas against departmental regulations and to his l^iov/ledge no officers for the department had ever worked for RUBY. PATTERSON Elated as he recalled there v;ere approxi- . mately ten officers blocking off the other entrances into the basement of the Dallas Police Department v;ho v/ere checking persons for proper identification. He advised that many people v;ere turned back whose Identitbswere unkncvm and viho _i:x.Nb. 5311 PATTERSON, B.G. Depositio»- - Dallas 4-U-6/^ ^' 11-30-63 Mesquite, Texas DL 44-1639 '^'^ Fi!o# URAL E. HORTON, JR., &; NOiMAN VJ. ,p pgo -^ iy Special Agont PROP.?!:' - md Dato dictated This document contolns neither recommandations nor conclusion* o( the FBI. It la th* property of the FBI and la loaned to your agency; a and Ita contents ore not to be distributed outside your agency. Patterson (Bobby Gene) Exhibit No. 5311 29 DL 44-1639 did not have proper identification hov/ever, he does not re- ;, call the identities of these individuals „ He stated that he doeslcioiv- RUBY on sight and he is certain that RTBY did not gain entrance or attempt to gain entrance at the point he was guarding, PATTERSON advised that he did" not knov; the officers or nev.'spaper nzen v/ho were congregated in the basement and could not see the main group, as there vjere many strange nev.'spaper men and many officers in the. area vjhom b^e did not kno;;« PATTERSON said that he had not seen RnST in the area nor had. he talked vfith RIBY betv/een the periods of November 22, I963, and November 24', 1963» He said that he has no information whatsoever concerning any relationship betv;een JACK RITBY and LEE HARVEY OSV/ALD, ^ nr Patterson (Bobby Gene) E^xhibit No. 5311 —Continued 30 / DL UU.i639/c-'ih ;=« 1 "!J6v<»mbf»r S6^ I963 ;^ "Mr. J- E. CuT*ry, \ "Chief of Pr.2ice. "^ "Sub;}ftct: A?3lgrront of Officer ' "ApprortimatelY 9:;0C !'..IU, Vj:VcrLOf-r 2h^ 15o3> I TRC^lvei J.optruction'j V^" / * to report no Station 511 for f?f"iipr',m«>iit'. I Ckirlv«-:d Jit 513. at s'j.proxi- <^ ^' jjiately 9;10 A.M., arvi va'^ tola by rieuf^'^ant Pierce to repoil:; to ^ ^ Serp<»ant Dein in the btisercfnt. FRrtJio-'mt Dean gave me ir^' asslgmnent ^\ vhl'^h va-: th'» south ri'imp F'xit on Coawn-.e Street. My order? wrc ret y^^^ to I'^t r>.nyoo.'» in "'•he "be-fc-xc/^Tt pxcept niatVirB cf Prfi'7 e.rd Poli'v* wixh ; . 2nt. ^ i ^ "Officer 7j. 2. Jez c:»ane up tte r-inrj to Criroercc Striet EyAt to y ,'•'' assiot Ks ^t li.-z-proxiK'^ttly 9-^5 A.M.. There were also about 'V "^ thi-ee or four re'ttrve cffirers o.t ny locatjon. Officer Jez v-^nt "^ "^ across Coicnterc:'j Street with s-'-.vo.ral other officer? to r-.earch a builrJlnc;.. then re+irr^>r,i t"? h.1.3 asf.J.Ttinant. At 11;00 aa, lde\->ten9.nt ^ y^ Pierce t:! roved in an arcinred car '^ud for r/=> ro j|{u.':.z Hbojt 11 .-10 A-K. a.ad "H'^ ba.:k*.d Itto the op5?^'i''.c of the P.&icp- , No vn«'.uth':ri7ed pftro-^n eaterrt? the bisemc^rit d'jrlng thle time. I reinair.ed at ray as&?goai-5'';t or. the ri.ght «idu of the bacem^rr.. I psv pomeoos vraUtla;^ acro?^ the top of i car. A little I'^tt r T heard a siren and saw the ambulsnc; pull iZiTo the K^ln Street Haap er.t;j^ranc«, Roraconft af-.i^ \cj iflove rhe .^rirc-red c-ir out of th-i way of the f^mbulacce, sa I got in asi told the drlvr«r tc reave it to the couth clde of Cotmierce ntrcet. Tie ambulance cams ojtt of the bdscsBerit and X rfl^uroed to my as-sigsffi^nt oa the rwnp until raliaved by Svreeent; Decdn. "Respectfiilly submlttftd, '^/ 'j. Cfv P".tta "r, 0. Patterson "Prttrolraw, #1553 "ratTX)l IlviAion "£CP/Bb" ^.No.5312 PATTERSON,B.G. Depositioa- '^'^ '/ '' Dallas ^-lU-e^ f Patterson (Bobby Gene) Exhibit No. 5312 31 PD-iai («... ,.j-4.) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVEr.TIG/"jON n„„ Dsccrr-bor 19, 1953 nc^ZKr CARL PAT-TERSON, nlso known a 2 Bobby Fatt'^reon, 902 East V.'aco, D.7llaD, Texas, tcl-.-phcn? rur-.ber'V/H 2-5326, advloei he 1. 13 worlced for E\'A GPJ;:.T, JACK KUEZ'o sister, at th« Ve»raa Club In Dallas, Intermittently for-sevoral ycara ao a guitar player and singer. Ha otated ha never has actually wor'.csd for JACK RUBY and has had little contact with hln. He oaid to the boot of his knowledge, RTOY operates a "clean," lesitlrate business and he haa nevor been engaged In any Illegal activities. PATTE7J30N knevj nothing concerning EUBY'o porconal .life and he has h"id no social contact v/lth him. He kn.'ALD. _Jx.No.5358 PATTERSON'; R.C. ' Deposit^? I Dallas 4-14-64 ~ lg/16/63 Dallas, Texas „, ,p„^g Dallas 4^-1639 by 5p«clc! Ac«» JAMES E. GARRIS;DL lS,A7/53 .^^.^ ^^^^^.^^ Tew agaaoTj it omI it» cmImu er* om U t>« «);su:l,Jicd eutaU* rear a«eacr. Patterson (Robert C.) Exhibit No. 5358 32 ^^-^ FD-302 (Roy. 3-3-S9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION C^' ^: Date ll/S5/&a- :> RALPH PAUL, also known as Raphael Paul, which ho advised ^ is his truG name, v;as located at 9:20 p,m. at the residence of Ilrs.JACK R. GABLE, 1601 Daniel, she being the sister of JOHN y\ JACKSON, who-manages the Bull Pen, *-'- 161st Street, between Y/alton and Girard Streets, Bronx, New York. He was there twenty years. From. 1919 to 1927, he v;ns in partnership with his father in Paul's Fruit Exchange, 159th ^ l1'^] Street, off Amsterdam Avenue in New York City, Prior to 1919, be b.;;d worked for his father, SAtlUEL PAUL in the retail fruit business in New York City at the above address. As to his marital status, PAUL stated he divorced in 1931 BEATRICE SHDLL, nov/ remarried, name and address not known but residing in Manhatten. He had married her in 1920 in New York City, a marriage ceremony having been performed by a rabbi in a "Jewish hall. " From the above union, two children were born, they being IliRILYN and RITA, both married, addresses unknovm, their ages being approximately 37 and 40 years respectively. His father, SALIUEL PAUL, died in 1945, His mother, TILLIE PAUL> resides at 2265 Sedgwick, New York City, telephone CY 5-1623. His brothers are DAVID PAUL, address unknown but living in the Bronx and operating a parking lot on Brook or Brooking Avenue, and LOUIS PAUL, whose address is unknown but who is employed as a salesman of v/omen's belts, LOUIS formerly operated the Pleasant Finance Co., Inc, 25 Main Street, Lodi, New Jersey, New Jersey , license 857, His sister is LEE BERRY, 2565 Sedg-.vick; her husband is deceased. His aunts are "BUNNY" (LNU) and ETHEL PAUL, widow of RAFAEL PAUL, a paternal uncle. . He has a cousin, MACK PAUL, address unl^nown, employed as a clerk in a grocery store in the Bronx, l?ow York. PAUL stated that he has an operational scar of a hernia on his right side and it was noted from observation there appears a growth of some kind on the upper lid of his right eye. He claimed no military service and admitted only the lollowiing arrests, such being by the Dallas Police Department in 1952, at which time he was charged with selling beer to minors, tiae case being dismissed. JXERO Paul Exhibit No. 5319 —Continued 34 3 DL 44-1639 He supplied the following current address and previous addresses: Presently resides In care of BERT B0T71IAN, Copeland Road, Arlington, Texas Mailing Address In care of Bull Pen, 1936 East Abrara, Arlington, Texas (has been here for past four years) Previously resided 2026 Wilbur Street, Dallas, 1951-58 Blue Bonnet Hotel, Dallas, 1948-51 1152 College, Bronx, New York 1922 - December, 1947. PAUL claimed his parents were naturalized in New York City, year not known, and claims a derivative citizenship through his father's naturalization. The other children of his family he cldmed were born in the United States. He said bis fattier arrived in the United States in 1901 or 1902 and that his mother came in 1907 or 1908. RALPH PAUL produced the following documents frx his billfold which he carried: A Social Security card in the name of RALPH PAUL, ;;^475-54-2288. A card showing he was a member of the Estacado Investment Association, Dallas, which he claimed. was a group of about 25 persons who were banded together for the purpose of making investments in the stock market. He v;as unable to furnish any definite address or names of any of the members except that of a Mr. SMITH, who he said was employed as a salesman by the Lone Star Wholesale Grocery, Dallas, He exhibited a card reflecting he was insured with Farmers Insurance Group, policy # 19-76231670, (^'^"-^ ^.^ : —Continued Paul Exhibit No. 5319 35 DL 44-1639 He holds Texas driver's license #3517406, issued October 21, 1963 on which his birth date is shown s December 17, 1904. Deposit slips indicated he transacts business with First National Bank, Arlington, Texas, The billfold contained a note dated October 17, 1961 reelecting a loan of $10,000 to LEE BERRY, who PAUL advised was his sister, and said the full amount of this loan had been repaid. He possessed a statement reflecting the purchase of a 1932 Cadillac Coupe de Ville, Engine No. 62J090216, purchased from J3utts Olds-Cadillac Co., Arlington, Texas, March 24,1962, in the amount $§,925, In the billfold was found a duplicate copy showing the issuance of cashiers check #61186 dated February 13, 1963, by First National Bank in Arlington, Arlington, Texas, showing purchaser to be RALPH PAUL, the check being payable to S2tR, Inc. in amount $2,200. PAUL identified S&R, Inc. as the Carousel Club, 1312| Commerce Street, Dallas. He stated that in addition to the above amount loaned to SC:R, Inc., he has invested approximately $3,000, owning 50 percent of the stock in the Carousel Club, which is operated by S2:R, Inc., a Texas corporation in which JACK RUBY gave to him 50 percent of the club stock in exchange for the approximately $3,200 which PAUL has invested. He declined any knowledge of names of incorporators of SSiR, Inc. Mr. PAUL produced a record of the following telephone numbers v;hich he had written over some period of time on numerous bits of small paper and had retained them. He stated he was unable to supply the significance of many of the names except that some represented persons with whom he dealt. Following are the numbers which are found in the exchange at Dallas, Texas: (The names are indicated as available.) RI 2-4247 Abe FL 1-0227 ; AN 2-4855 Boward \m 2-5601 FL 2-8146 John Garner, (home telephone BL 4-5362, Irving, Texas), Coca Cola, P. O. Box 2186, Dallas V6? . C'K 4 — Paul Exhibit No. 5319 Continued 36 5 .OL 44-1G39 The name DROTKA SHIVE was found written on a slip of paper, ASSOCIATION UITH JACK RUBY, AS JAC K RUBENSTBIN 'A LSO ia-;GV.-N " RALPH PAUL stated he first became acquainted v;ith JACK RUBY, also Icr.cv/n to him as JACK RUBENSTEIN, in 1948 at Dallas, Texas and i^ecounted the following manner in v/hich they first became acquainted. RUBY had introduced himself to PAUL at the Mercantile National Banlc, where he, PAUTi, was then doing business. This he said was a chance meeting, at v;hich time RU"BY asked "Are you connected with the Sky Club" and when PAUL told him he was, RUBY asked if he could come out to see the show and PAUL extended the invitation, RUBY accepted this invitation, saw the show at the Sky Club, and then RUBY invited PAUL to see his show at the Silver Spur night club which was being operated by RUBY. PAUL accepted this invitation. Their relationship afterwards continued on a personal basis, each seeing the other often, RUBY sold the Silver Spur in 1956 and continued to operate the Vegas Club, Dallas, and is still owner of that night spot. About 1959 or 1960, JACK RUBY opened the Carousel Club, being a partner v;ith JOE SLATON, a bar business owner in Dallas, SLATON and RUBY had been friends, hov;ever in the operation of the Carousel Club business they had disagreed and following this falling out, RUBY came to him (PAUL) and requested a loan of $1,000 with which to carry on the business of the Carousel Club,r This was about 1960 or 1961. Since that tine, RUBY has continued to ask for loans which were granted by PAUL without security, no note or any evidence of this indebtedness to him, except cancelled checks reflecting the amount of loans made, JACK RUBY has never repaid any money loaned to him and/or. the Carousel Club. PAUL stated he believes JACK RUBY transacts his business with the Bank of Commerce, Dallas, Texas, RALPH PAUL considers himself as the closest friend of JACK RJBY, Any acquaintances or friends of JACK RUBY he could not recall, advising the man had no close associates or friends except possibly the two following persons who have worked for RUBY: V/ALLY ^TESTON and EARL NORMAN,, both comics. ^7f . /< ^ Paul Exhibit No. 5319 —Continued 38 DL 44-1639 As to relatives of JACK RUBY, he had I:nov7led3e of only sister, EVE GRAOT, v/ho operates the Vegas Club, Dallas, and bi'other (rHU) , viho owns a washateria. About 6 p.m., Friday, November 22, 1963, JACK RUBY called at the Bull Pen and asked PAUL to go to a synagogue yvith hin, RUBY advising he was going there to pray for President [CSin^DY, who had been assassinated about noon on that date, PAUL stated that he declined tbis invitation inasmuch as he does not attend any synagogue. He believes JACK RUBY att2ids a synagogue located on Northv;est Highway, Dallas. At the time of this conversation, RUBY said "You are going to hate me for this, I'm goilig to be closed for three days". RUBY informed he had plr.ced in both Dallas daily newspapers notices to the effect the Carousel Club would be closed Saturday, Sunday and Monday, Movomber 23-25, 1963. RALPH PAUL reraihdsd RUBY his competitors .vould be open and he (PAUL) considered this act of closing foolish cut advised RUBY if he v/anted to do it that way, to go ahead, /.•hereupon RUBY stated that was the 'Way he felt about the President. RUBY next called by telephone about 3 p.m., Sturday, November 23, 1963, and asked if he (PAUL) had seen the advertisement in the papers and PAUL again reminded him he thought the closing Df the Carousel Club foolish. PAUL advised he had no further contacts with RUBY in sny form since the above contacts, which were made bytslephone, JACK RUBY continued informing PAUL he thought the assassination cf the President was a terrible thing and repeated this many tines, to which PAUL agreed. RUBY did not in any way ceveal any plans he might have or bis intentions with relationship CO what had happened to President JOHN F. KEKMEITf. PAUL advised RUBY had never discussed with him his political philosophy or views and in the past had objected to the nsster of ceremonies of the Carousel shows making any sarcastic renarks to the President personally. PAUL said he regards RUBY as a loyal citizen of the Jnited States and could not explain why RUBY shot LEE HARVEY DST/ALD, He further advised that he found it difficult to believe the news when he first heard it and after being later informed by 3CWARD (Ll^TU) this was true, he, PAUL, attempted to call JACK RUBY's 3ome in Dallas, telephone WH 1-6501, but was unable to get any answer, ^7^ , Ci^"/- copy' COPY Paul Exhibit No. 5319 —Continued 39 3 DL 44-1639 PAUL then called TOM HARMON, his and JACK RUBY's attorney, Dallas, end informed IIARIuON of the news V7hich had been received and requested KARLION to find out about the matter, "..'ithin about 45 minutes, IIARIION returned the call and requested PAUL to cone to his, HARI.ION's office. Accompanyins hin to HARIION's office that afternoon on November 24, 1963, v/ere JOHN JACKSON, raanager of the Bull Pen and TAIffllY TRUE, a former entertainer at the Cprousel Club, now residing in Fort Worth, Texas and who had cone to the Bull Pen, she first calling PAUL and advising she wished to accompany him to the City Hall, Dallas. After arriving at the Dallas City Hall .that afternoon on November 24, 1963, the three v;ere informed by the Dallas Police Department they would not be permitted to see JACK RUBY. They then went to TOLI HARIuON's office, T.'here they remained about two hours, this being between 1:30 and 2:30 p.m., after which JACKSON and TAIHIY TRUE left Dallas and he, PAUL, v^ent to the Majestic Theater, Dallas, where he saw a picture show, name of v/hich he could not recall or the general theme, but in" which be said JOHN WAYNE was an actor. 'He claimed he left the iria jest ic Theater about 7:30 p.m., drove to the home of JOIIN JACICSON, 1602 Browning, Arlington, Texas, where he remained one hour and then drovA to the residence of JOHN JACKSON'S sister, Mrs. JACK R. GABLE, 16QIJDaniel Street, Arlington. He remained there until he was contacted by SA*s DAVID H. BARRY and ROBERT C. LaSH. RALPH PAUL described JACK RUBY as an emotional, impulsive individual who talked loudly and whom people think of as being a person of high temper, this being bsed on his reactions and loud speech. He claimed that RUBY has taken needy people off the streets of Dallas, has fed them and taken them into his home a;,d has provided jobs for persons without employment, PAUL said RUBY is not a wealthy person but has made the remark that he would divide what he has as long as he has a dollar. He could not recall any particular hobbies of JACK RUBY except of his interest in dasc'^ouiids, a breed of dogs. He sta^d JACK RUBY never dates any girls performing - at the club, however does- date outside women but does not have a steady girl friend. 9 UL 44-1639 He commented that JOE BONDS, presently confined to the Texas Department of Corrections, and JACK RUBY v;ero close friends at one time but later became enemies and it was JOS BOIIDS, v?ho at New Yoi-k City had induced him, PAUL, to come to Dallas originally, F.^UL hadlnown JOE BONDS in New York about one and one-half years, BONDS* wife being an entertainer known as DALE BELMONT, It was through her that he first met JOE BONDS in New York City, .A.^ phG^ogro^h:-of IiEE'EAEYEY;.0Si7ALD, .2JG-7 Orleans . Police Deparfe^^lfm'. 112723, was' shown' to RALPH PAUL. He claimed he does not know OSWALD, failed to identify the photograph, and said he had never heard of this person prior to the assassination of President JOHN F. KENNEDY. Ee maintained he had never seen OSWALD and JACK RUBY together, bad never heard RUBY mention OSWALD'S name or give any indication of any acquaintanceship with OSWALD. The above interview was terminated at 11:55 p,m. JXCRO JCOPY Paul Exhibit No. 5S19—Continued 744-732 O-64-vol. XXI 5 41 •2 (R.r. 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date __LU2adS3. "^ RALFIT.FAUL;' 1936 E, Abrama, Arlington, Texas, advised ths S?a, Inc., owns the Carousel, Dallas, that he owns 50 per cent of S&B. Inc. He stated he rocelved 500 sfiares or 50 per cent of S&R Inc. fron RUBY as collateral as indebtedness of RUBY to him. He then stated that he does not ovm the stock but' that it is rather collateral for iiUir/'s inddtedness. _ ^\ • : 't^' PAUL said SSsR Inc. was originally formed by one SLAYTONv and JACK RUBY, that the Soverign Club, a private club was \o operated at the outset by SML Inc., thaii it v.-as terminated ^ -' " and the Carousel opened. He -said he believes EARL RUBY, ^ brother .of JACK!, owns the* '-^remaining 5OO shjares or 50 ,0 per cent of S &R Inc, . .[.. ^ .' }\ It was noted ^i?. PAUL 'appear 4- extremely con- c^l' fused as to the question of whether he 'owns shares of U^;^ ^ stock or whether it is merely collateral.. He stated he can be ^ reached at one of the following telephone teleDhoneJv numbers in _r €" ^»<: \- ^^^ Arlingtons .,.,^ , .. ^ .^. .. , ^- ^ \ C^:;:; I- or 5-^891 "" ;;] j-^;' ' ^ v^' " CR 5-8113 '/:-^:'. '0^.. / \ . ;. _ CR 5-5352 "^'^3 ':.-:::,-Z S^-,,:I -' • \ ' '' ' PAUL said he lives at an un»riumbered house on Cojpeland Road, Arlington, the Abrams Street address above being that of the "Bull Pen", his drive-in restaurant.-. Jx. No. 5320 PAUL,Ralph Deposition Fort Worth 4-15 -64 "" 11-28-63 Arlington, Texas ' "'' '" DL 44-1639 '. at : l_Fi!« # MANNING C' CLEIffiJJTS-md . 11-29-63 by Special Agont , -— '. Doto dlctatsd ^?'^ ,. and U leaned le coocluelona of th« FBI. It Is |xcro "P*'*' «' **'• ^BI your ag*ney; it < Pattl Exhibit No. 5320 42 Pena Exhibit No. 1 43 Orest Pena Exhibit 1^ Act 0» BWITM Cuba L»cf OF amTN ]uiouuro i., Cub£ '^Zt LecW 19 bC Mcr.ctj. Paez uns^^iiii, ric^.r -A»_ i,)qa;g»j:^i^o> j^g,^ VTFan; ffl ««s ruevtevtLv harhifo I 1951 Paula Rojas >(At iipmi AT bllc HUMAMD on I ^"o'-^Vcmz,, L""_l?55_. (IF MA^KO MO»» THAN TWICl. »iT FOWTH rACTI HI A •«•»» PROPOSED TRAVEL PLANS ^KAvCLiws av oiMMtlxie TOimt x~. Vacation Spain M.T or ot».^)iTui.t AP»«6»iaTt OAVt or Pl»AIITU*ll N«w Crle&no Aug. 1963 HuitaKR or PHtvioiM rwrt asroao «ITMUI1|UT It MONT HI Airline MIAN* OF THAMlPOHTATIOtl PKOPOMD LIMCTH Or IT AT CJ I»p foflu IN TMI (VCMT or DIATH OK ACCIOIMT MOTirV Huoerto Pena Brother 2X7 Iieoatur 3t. Hew Orleans,la. • citiaM tt • ipniM wui Mrr«l k OM «B«d foccM ol a fonlas atai of A bnift «a(* oi political wibdiTt^oa i Hn •tatc or PAnjcipACCd m ma riection or plebi* (citrtodataiaiaadi* Bvctaimr orer foteiaB tatrinry; made • fonaal renunciation of nAaooality either ia the United Scarce or before diploaadc or cenaular office* of like UoitcdScstee ia • foreinn scKej ftct •ouf;h{ or claimed the benefit! of the nAtionality of any foiei(0 •MtCi b««n coeeicted by a coun ot coon ouutial of conpeicnt juiiadiction of coaimittiog any act of eceAeoo againat, or attempfioj by farce fie oTerthrow, or beariag acna aaaioat, the Uaiced States, or cooepiriaf to ovetthiow, put down ot to destroy by force, the Government of the United State^ or d«|iarted Doin or rcoiainct^ outside of the ]uria£ctJon of the United Scatea for the putpoae of evading or avoiding uainina aod aetvice in (he military, air ot naval forces of the United States; and I am not and have not been at any tine duringng die period' of 12 full caleodar laoadia precadiag the dace of chia application (and no other peraoo to be iaclnded in the paaaport a oeen at any Ittae dtaiog the aaid petiod) a Benlm of any otaaniz of the Subversive Activitiea Control Act of 19W. as amendei (50 U.S.C. 736)« (If Qerk o( ihc Ftdetal M S«MC necessary inlormaiion and or before l Puspon AgeiM The Clerk Of Agenl will fi»e you al the fore;toinn pages which his •cplicwioo. Be sure lo (ill in .11 *••' """'^ Sl«lc. ^ •ii«e«»*ip inaread of doc»« A prCTlo.aly iw.««.« contain in of Com or PsMiwtt AgMt e.sctly whM information a binh ot order to be acceptable (or puapon purpose.. Perso.. cimmin, citiwiAip through a a«i.e A «.«Ji»d citi». dull peeoest kU n«urslii«ion cenificate. « «^i«d dli~ d-11 -btni. evidence of citizenship of the p.r«« through who- tbey cl«m cu.«.d..p. fif«ali/ics« TV. foUowiog docstset^s sn «x.p..bl. ta ide«>fica.io. p«p.s*. sppllcMit; A preyio.. p.«spon. s natural. wioo cen.nesie. a drtrer s a ptooerspk or. physical descfiptiooof the li^ « a go«.«-e«t (FederJ. S.«e, Municipal), indu«ri.l or busies, idemlftcatioo card a. p«». 4. P*«l»gr.p*« , d«|>lics(epkMc«rsphs uke« pax J y.«. shall be prese«ed with the ^pH^mi*^ «.l* piettifr.p*. in ph«ograph « J^.Zu.mPu7^\^. .rr«w5.«rTi«ed ph«o,r.pb.«e<« «xeptdil.. See i««t«t.o«s blodi o« pa«e I of spplkKioa- ^. PtsMfan f.«» The fee retputed lor the i.—ce of . new paa^ort i. »9m Tbe •«««'-'!«'• " •^"«»' »' " -'"' "" ^iplication i. eKc«ed Mon a OtA of a S. 11/58/63 GEOEGE ROBERT PHEN3X, 2550 Klondike, Newamanvwlth "* KRLD-T7, Dallas, advised that about 9:10 AM, Norember 2U, %^3, '...^ he vent to the Dallas Police Station In one of the KRLD nobile ^ units, driven by WES WISE, also of KLRD-T7. This unit vas clearly jL "^ marked and easily recognized as a KLRD unit. They drove ''to the bft?ement from the Main Street i',i( ^ side and WISE let him out near the basement entrance to the fie- ir vators. Then WISE Immediately drove out on the Commerce Str^t /""^ side. There was no one on duty at the entrance and no one chej^ked ^ blm at this tl^. '^**' « PHENIX set up his location acrops the ramp from the, ^ door leading from the elevators. Lnter, a uniformed officer vas fi ' observed by him to be checking the various individual's in the -^ basement and also checking the automobiles in the parking area in the basement. One officer came up to PHESIX, looked closely at him, and appeared to have recoignized him, inaraiuch as he was xiot required to produce any identification. He feels sure he was not required to produce identification, because the officer recog- nized him as a representative of K1RD-T7, PHElrtX was too busy setting up and maintaining his position to observe what precautions were taken at the various entrances to prevent entry of unauthorized persons. No other newsmen have said tmything to him about having been asked for their identification at the time of their entrance to the building. He, personally, does not know whether the security set up by the Police Department covered all entrances to the Police Department or was confined to the basement area. Other than the checking of persons in the vicinity of the elevator exit In the ba^jement, "s observed by him, he has no idea of what precautions were tsken at the various entrances to the building. PHENIX advised he was almoat knocked down as OSWALD approached the raoip fen route to the automobile which wa.'? to tranisport him to the County Jail, At first, he thought this vas possibly the individual >*o shot OSWALD. Since that time, he has reviewed the film of the shooting and has decided the per<:on who bumped into him could not possibly have been JACK RUBY, ioacmuch as RITBY came toward OSWALD from aa entirely different ?v3gle. He could not recall having Feen RUBY In the basement prior to the time he shot OSWALD. PHENIX 's eyes were on OSWALD and he was not actually looking at RUBY. When the shot was . fired, there was immediately so much confus^ion and so many people milling about that he could not distiK PHENIX,Geo. Depo3itioi\_ ""Ex. No, 5329 Dallas 4-16-6A 11/28/63 ^^ Dallas, Texas p„, g uu i*ft-lb39 FiUl by Spaelsl Ag.nt p EDMOWD C, HARDIW & RALPH E. RAWLIHOS Data dictated 11/^8/6^ ^^ /^^ ThI. deeaMB* oealalna B«MlMr t«— ~««dallon« nor eonofa.loB. el th« FBI. It ta Ib-^^DropaHr ol ......'. I > •- Phenix Exhibit No. 5330 49 Bomalssion Exhibit 4:f'^' lie fi f wmmaasmaam Cmmty of I|arri0on |ott arrBrrrbg SUrnari to (Bfirkratr ti|» ^^«/ IdWMTd John Pla Ji.. Ita Franaia QlaTW-UL. dmy,^ 4UCU /tmyj^ Aaigi m^^^jftmifffimi^J^ mA^jmrn^^ f -JPtT Kiif d^a^^iJUUt Q6<^ », APPLICATIOIT COI^IITTE^: ^ Mo written raport recoived, hov/cvcr, pastor Honold reported verbally on several oaces as follc\7s:- A ncnbGr of tho 3o:jrd of Dircotori of tho Home for. InouroblQa advised that they v;ould r;;tu.vn .'jl^O.OO of the money pajd them for the care of Hiss. Hilda -'"jscIc. ^j ,J _ /•'A caoo was submitted by Paojcr IVcU. ::'^o.n Hedeemer Churct involving a boy 10 years of a^c, l/i"^7 ? yecrc end another* 2 y^^^zs. The mother vas married to c i;r:Pic^'v^ir- -.V.'l-.d, Ir^tcr livrricd to a Ivli-. Ogv/oIL vrho has alao died. .,hile she ha:: souio i-'.onay lari; from insurance policioa finds it necos:;ary to seal:: .yzyioyMcn^ -:-:.iU ro:;!", like to have the i children placea in tho hoae. Pastor Kau ..ac l^vjor.aed we could do * nothing about the boy 2 ycarr-, old, bat soinctii^..^ ni^ht be done about', the other tv/o children. Zu'cleT picccid in tho hands of the Cowiiiiittee with full power to act. __-^^ -' . fLv'JPT CASiJ; & l.irG.Geo.:.:Idupt rcqr.e.ited p(v.-rais:>ion to take their- I.&. nicco 8 years old with the:::; for t\o Chj?intma^ Holidays. " s Tns mother has ci'^^sn permission. .:::-.'-:::..:... .: Thoy v;ould like to' :.:.::. take the child permanently aiid Pastor lionold znc::^^M/Si(X they take I' I lor^al adoption procoodint';3. I'ho mother ia not \ri'Llln.z to agree to .,. / suon prooeedinss. Another plan was suegestod. The fo."> ter homo axvanfijemonts whereby v/e wcula release the child to iir.fi: Ltrs.Haupt -: I I ana still retain guardianship over her. The mother is willing to f ac-co to suoh an arraAsement', which would have to be worked through • thD -Zx^zun-jLh Juirenile Court. On motion made seconded and passed the mati-er loft in- the hands of the com.-aitt6e with full power to ao"t. Tho report was then adopted as a whole. ' SUP3? larrEiroTTi-TT s p.epgrt ; ' • , •... superintendent reported no chango in the ' -i or_vollmcnt since last report. Fif.ty children on roll, i/orty nine ' Ir. the home and Leonard Kin^: at Austin, -iuperintondot .;! o dvisod >: :' xh-t all children lias been placed in '.f f ci'cnt homes. .:'../. :.::3'l"/i;i,'- >-i I'" *•; Ooy. The Film of the ho'.'e Irad bar-n tho attendance was not very .cood i;iLe Pastor lionold sucgested we Ivy ii:\ - the children to take them froiu tl:.: liO; after tho Christmas Evo.' celebration. discretion of the Sup or intend en -i---, /J: 10 PL BOARD ; No, report. !&.' Hointzcn sixqz^^'^^'^ ''^ii^'t v/e incli:.^- in the Ponsloa Plan quit teaohera lir. Koso 'ii.:::iiri and ?;Iiss . /jui a V/e ^nor . on. . Pic Exhibit No. 2 — Continued +» OO ti O N4* O ^O O O C5 s si '-9 ;. ; «-» O 1 5»-i • 5 4 • •© xi cS <» to q fH K Ci W So V;5»3 <;^ •-*^ T>%va ^TQIUxa uoTssfomoo M ^^ 55 '' '(cvdngdkal 'CiitberanWetbkbem-:^^ (APPLICATION FOR RELEASE OF CHILDREN.); -j]'/^ ^ • A ! V , : /;,\' New Orleans/ La^-::^^::^ .•3^0 THE BOARD OF.DIRECTORS, '^^^^^S^^^^^^^^-fe^^I-^-I^^ ; ' :'-'' Commission Exhibit No. Jc Ua^ Vj\cr' ;••..'.'.. GENTLEMEN ; ' ' •;/ .:•. I, the undersigned, respectfully apply for the release of ; ' ;,. ••^ /• "K^,^:^ : K--i ''': '"' ' '';'' .•:'.:. New Orleans, La...... jU=:-iv:..:^i—---l^J"-«^, .. .... ' ' ' :. 'To' the President and Board of Directors of the V : •: ,'^ Evangelical Lutheran Bethlehcni Orphan Asylum Association.- r ; ; I, We, the undersigned, hereby_make application for the admission to your Home of ;'.• ' • • Clirlsleiicd' ' -yn Wl.en,:" .•WlicrcVUcc. .'((Dale)- i ^ andChurcIt ^ . ••7- ^^^^ /iclfia^-^^^ S..L^. Comnilssion Exhibit No.v^f/./ p / ^ ;other.22^^,.^4-^j^.i^^:«i^ • Date and place of marriage. ....^iU^^r^^wV.Z.T^^^ ^^ : Tutor :.».'.'... -L ^......1. ...>:.--!. ...:. ' Address'.:.. J.. .....V ....i... ,^....:....\ Occupation of party makiug;applicationV.'......:-_.J..„.'_._'..-.—.— .-'—"-- -l...'.V..':...-— ;• ;Bu^iiicss Address. ._.. J. ..^.... ..•-..... ....Residence........ ....._..,...,.-... ...' -C- "Can you contribute?-.../.^!;-.'^.'— ....—.'. If so, how much per inontli S,.Z^.4L7n.:..;. -- f- V/;',l you supply shoes and clothing?., .;.'..:... .X^iW^?^ - .-.—.—'——:..—--•.' V.; I: .application is accepted, Thereby a^rce t^o- sign and abide by the' Asspciation's ,,;-i .Tzz:. T:\:i leave the boys, in the Asylum until at least one year after, confirmation, and 'girl's ;.; — .i tbcy have preached the age'oflS years, . '.i;'^ .1|, : ; ';!]'' i'. '"!•-' ^i/l ' ,, ! ' ''''''' \ T:, L-' Committee on Applications hereby' ^^-\t--^::,/^4^ • ." . pr^.vcs and recommends; the above application. -.^''•: . .: '[^ ' • -• '• i ;• *)'7L^i'*^^~~f' " ' ' '.. " .--.^.,.....l...j.!]Cl"J"rj^-™!J];2^IlChairni'ah'' "Pastor^.'... ^1.1^J^„ --^ '• .Church \ Approvcd.:/£^,;g^^...::.li02. :.; ';- '(''....:... Rcc.Sccty. ' nitc entered Asylum.^Z?2ii2^IXlL„-l02...: . .... Supt. bate C.)nfirmed...;:^..i;j.l..i::'..:.;'„192...-- : ': Age ..Church L>aie of releaisCJJlVI.vIi-^i'Llrliljili^Q^'Jrj*; Age. Pic Exhibit No. 3 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI- 57 Zl^^^; £^t^^oy^'/S^ ^SLii-nrwa \- r/'/f^'P^^y^Jy^ ^ CorrJ-ssion Exhibit No^«'''^>P'<= 7 10 Pic Exhibit No. 4 58 77 ^^.-^^_ .. , •: .*.^' /^ N 11 Pic Exhibit No. 4— Continued 59 '.: :,•..;.,•:'.; • . . .. .• .,. .^'^^;' '.':.. .New Orleans, La.,. j...Z':^.".r?.'^..L.'.v ^:x J^^' iiTp the President and Board of Directors of the : • Evangelical Lutheran Bethlehem Orphan Asylum Association. •' rl ;.;'ii";; !.;.... . •- r.'.i .1, We, the undersigned, hereby make application for the admission to your Home of ' • ; ;• Namciafull • " " " \ -' Conunlsslon Exhibit NaTTKJ (^^S*^ ' " P I'vO fDU-r^fxl AsY'\>m ,^ : \'\ n V" 'V ' ^'^2 ' \' ' HoArd per month i- ' i;.> ': -uontS . P«M 1 P.I.I /ll .^^..^^ .^JZ ^-^ -.-^ ^<^^— :?^^ ^C c'-t^;^ .^U>/a. ..«^<-c^X -^--^ , -'-" ^•-^s-^. ' .<^^C^A 22Si Commission Exhibit No. Pio Exhibit No. 4^ <^' Cvy-f^^J^^ >! '^ /t r^ (f^^.'-^ '^, X (?,(? ^/i''j ri'.'-^' y.. 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XXI 7 73 c^ Ro < \- 1 Pic Exhibit No. 16-A .C//'/.. ^- ''^ ^'V^^ <^_-r. ^^r^-/ / „^^d^ -iJ'^jv^ ^^^->V^ e^^^'^^ ^'<'t'7 J.Uv.?.: Pic Exhibit No. 17 Pic Exhibit No. 17 —Continued 74 «j<^ i Pic Exhibit No. 17-A Conunlsslon Exhibit i g-^fl -^- .^p 7 /-^ (2 ,?-,^y^e^^ oA^ Pic Exhibit No. 18 75 .5 ' ' r- --" /^ —Continued Pic Exhibit No. 18 „ / !-_--_ :— Y 1951 :_l' .. ^ ri X i ^ 1:1 :? Pic Exhibit No. 18-A 76 J./;. P.c't V- ;./ V -^ ^TV ^y ,p.^^Y -7?^ ^^ ^"^-^ -"^^^ ;.A// iv^-ujJ^ ;.^,fX.l.<^ ^--'^ ,/'Y,/.l^,:/ -s.^^,. /^-^^ 7,; //^^X^-''<-^ "UiJ-i:7 y. :^.:^^/- .X = ^-Cc^- .^ :d.^ ,„^. '^>>. Pic Exhibit No. 19 AFTER FIVE DAYS RWL RBf URN TO ' HIRE THE HANC': IT'S GOOD 60:^1' ?.-o slO^ ^ ^^^:UL.j, ^ ^Pf '^ ijj^ o^uL^ UjL ^^^^ eS>^n^ .x^-^-v^-y "^^^^ ^TT ^Xl ^Zj^ -^^ -^^^^z i^^o ^^-' . c Pic Exhibit No. 20 I''-/ ^'' "' ' ; ^,., ^.^x. /-- - /7 . : ;— „.„,'., '^' '•7^;^*' Y'-'-^f.' /:,?//.!.. i^.r ..^ ^.i .-7^ rr; ^. ^-^ 7":n,fXr:4r::;j::v..,-. /, '-T^/ .^ >.,^ ^.^ .--^ - ^^^- -^1^ Pic Exhibit No. 20 —Continued 78 W^M^ ^^v^ /f^^ £Z. Conualsslon JExhlblt ^Vlc - _ -^^joA Pic Exhibit No. 20-A noni:.'l3s5.on Exhibit 1^0 & :jt,') H[ J[h]ci, Fella I Hope uour d&u W ' :' ,;f, ri'^Kl in everti wau j"'/ ' /j . 1 o jull of luck and cheer You'll wisn ijou nad "^y :i;^- Pic Exhibit No. 20-B —Continued :,^H€^^ Cooalss ion Exhibit jit "^S V \/'"^ f- J. ^^---_^''' '- 'X:., ..-,..../ ,77x: >:..-, X..., ^ L r/ Pic Exhibit No. 21 ^-.; .^. .J2^^^.^ ^^-^^y .^^^3^-^-^--:- .--/J^e V.-... <: -1:7 • /f ^2 >^.:^ ^^< r coBow""" Pio Exhibit Xo. 21 —Continued AFTEn PIVC DAYS RETURN TOy*\ f.> O^ nil I ?M •; '^X \ '-i',- Ib52' I Woipyi^^ Xl Pic Exhibit No. 21-A 81 Pic Exhibit No. 22 . I y,,..^^' ''""'"'''"''' -^ ^^jt --^ "'""T..."!^--^ aj?^ ^-^-r^:/ . .-f-^ 1^ ^ ^^i^^Jd PIC Exhibit No. 22— Continued '.W'-^ CoBialsslon Exhibit ^^ (^)j.^-^ />;i^^ ^MtltL (L. .- r jl.J^' rJlU- ^-^^ ^^"'" /^ '" 7) • . '^ ^-- #-^^ ^',v=. -^-'- -^^"-^ ,^^//. 7^-^^^ C-C'. r..t/ ,€:C-—-^ .^ a-'L.:^ ^0 ' , /9 ^/-« 1^ / 7 ^-' ...l-^^ ic. ^<' 'J >-' 6-'. r. ^^fi'^^ L-'t^'^"*;''' ,—6c-^-^ •i/*^i' ;i£/-«^ Pic Exhibit No. 23 83 ^--^ .' '-^ " / , -- . " -^ . i>/ -'-,./ • :_ - -, «.--•A,'~-i' / .^- Pic Exhibit No. 23 —Continued 84 ;354 \ M/} J. f. ,:-^ 7x- S^ €. C Pic Exhibit No. 2a-A 7 ,,.,.^- r.' ' n -r±^ P r... .-^ 6-6>:-e . / 'xJ- /:>^ £f\A ^' 7/(/v-/<^ /r^ r- \ '0(> -n--'— / y 7'W^ Pic Exhibit No. 24 85 7^ (Q,a'<>U--(L^ Commission Exhibit ^S^^ ^C- — Pic Exhibit No. 24-A ^-^r_ - qJ) ^/U^ ^^^^uML. ^ CoBUiBsion Exhibit 2^5'^ Pic Exhibit No. 25 86 \l' 'A LA. i rfnrL.,^.^:i Commission Exhibit 'LrS'A Pic Exhibit No. 25-A ,X" o^ )^^^ ^^,''. '^"^''^t T^^dT^^^^^ J? />/.-^- - J.'J^ ^.3,^^^^, //-^ l^r J^ .7 ,>-i^yy Za:it Pic Exhibit No. 26 87 \ /-;<- Coxasft „.lon B*"'^* I'll' Kxiiuiii No. 20 A AIR MAIL 1 //// .t,- >^ '•>'*« UNITED STATES MARINE: C ;'r>S \.<.j>->i' ^i r^".vi.. ;^-, ftSitiii . I ....I »- ii....ai..i * ^i r""- *-'-«* _ ConHnisfllon Exhibit 2J2P ^"^<* M^'V? (^ ^'^ I'K' I'lxiimn No. '11 \\ 744 7:V2 O ()4 vol. XXI 8 6- ^^-^ 'V, ^:-'>''v- c\ J- -A^ 5 ^ii-'- (>---i-A yU ^. /-c— ::.^ •^ -^ C~- -•:- C ^ -41'^-^ ^ »- '^^ o^" Commission Exhibit -W^ K C. Pic Exhibit No. 27-B — Continued ^r^e (l«J?4^ //'^' /7 // '^^"^"^ // VIA AIR MAIL Vj^Y M , Commission Exhibit I z^^-A : >g^'^;y ^!'.''.ry yr^y jT^W . ^/"-^ry yr^'^T - Pic Exhibit No. 28-A • ^^.>:S^ .^^^ ^-^^^^-^-^ , ^Ir^^^^-^'^^^'^C '• 0-^ .;i^' ?^ Pic Exhibit No. 28-B 91 ^^.x ^. ;:.:::s^^. X y^SK ~ I Conmlsslon Exhibit 1^^^ Pic Exhibit No. 28-B —Continued jfzy zzT" zz^ .^^iz ^12^ ^::^ ^-^ h _ .'»w j/ I I (^ %leA^u Ql^-UtTr, xtnuiA, \ s -^ " Coumls» ~^'V,,; ' ^ ^ ^'^ca,, ^1 i^4^ S4- h';llH: i' 4v, If Comnlsslon Exhibit ^|L. 3'V & Pic Exhibit No. 31-B 97 r-i^ Commloslon Exhibit ^\. ^ Pic Exhibit No. 31-B —Continued feS'^ '7?7m..^ii:f'^ y~——t^6t" '^^^ ' /?y ^^^y VIA AIR MAIL I Pic Exhibit No. 32-A X^ y^,!'-y^^6d-^ ^, ^^ ^ .^Ok^ yCa e,^_^^^:ff -^^-^ '^^^'^ >:,^>!^ >-t *^'...u^ -- CoBBlBslon Bxhlblt 45C 3:a (5 Pic Exhibit No. 32-B [^ /L^ o^ --^^ i^. "ion jf». _L - ^ Pic Exhibit No. 32-B— Continued 99 1 ^y ^.^ 10 im Pic Exhibit No. 33-A J -^^4 ^^^ ^-^ J^O-^Jf-^y'- ^-<^ i^li^t^ .^- ^^^r-ti Pic Exhibit No. 34 101 ziH^' ^^ ^^ -^c-^ ?r "y-r.^ \c-7^^^l ^^ ^J>TA^ ^C« :. ^1^ .*—C ^' --^ -^'-^' "^'-^^^ Pic Exhibit No. 34r— Continued 102 '7of()i,,^^,.Jl. , ;^^ '^^ ^'J ^.^. ,,.C.. /^^>:^..^i ^^v6^ .^^ /-•' yy^^' -^Y' ^'"'' '^'-^'^ p-'T^'- 'yZ/a.^A^ J-^' cj^-^^ y^^.:./^;.-.-. dcdwf.N Commlaslon Exhibit Pic Exhibit No. 35-B — Continued ^r S^. v^ "^^on ahibit d?^ fi-, Pic Exhibit No. 36-B —Continued 744-732 0-64— vol. XXI 9 105 ;^w The season's greetings AND AXL BEST WISHEf. d ,^r.^ M^ -J \ u tc-.^-- '-1^-^^ Pic Exhibit No. 37-B— Continued ^i rA'K;lr 1 inui '^A^.^,-, Commission Exhibit ^^^A Pic Exhibit No. 38-A 107 ,y. <>../ . ^ ~ y.^ A.AjU^^ X»U^ ,-Z?><- Y^^^, Z^^ ;!^ i?.^-^- ./ ^^'>.^, cC^y:^^:^ 9 Pic Exhibit No. 38-B Commission Eichlblt 3«|^ *^ A^/5^ Pic Exhibit No. 39-A 108 ^ Conalsslon Exhibit ^^^^Q^ jr>u^^ Jr O-^tJL , n^u^^ o^f^^ ^^^<^^. ^iy,jj2^^ ^Qj ^,^i^^ yt^ai^.: » •— ^,^ y cu^^ o)!M ^/u>{ L^-o .i-/'' _y;^ /^'"^ £?^^-nJL .^C^n.^'^'^^l .^^^'-^-c-Af^^ .B - r-C^V^ ~^ 'S)o f7'-K- '^^A -^y-^ .^.x^ yj>^ '^Ti..^ a.^^ :zca- J^.^.<^^ — -'^ ^c^^-r.^^^ -f— ,,ytic.^-^ -^^--^ >^^*^ iiji ....^ -?5;^ ^^ ^^ -^^ "t!:.'' """^^ ^^^;^_^_^,^ ^^ y^^a-^ ^JJbu . 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Others Date (Signed) 8:521^ Director of Public Health " Pic Exhibit No. Pic Exhibit No. 123 u &=. . cl ol eI fI ol -- k1 .x\ .mI ~n1 -rI qI III -~:f^^ John Plo K^ilbli Pic Exhibit Xo. r.O— ('out iiiued JOai^Pua Juea S-t/ -4l:X^ /^^rT> ' 'Do , -^ ^i.^iCi- ^- Vew/i/^r B ^. rZoMSjJu C E F 9 H ^IQ e e n J -n -L M Me "n -a K -f Q -R s Jobn Plo Ejftilblt No. 60 Pic Exhibit No. 60 —Continued Pic Exhibit No. 60 —Continued 126 '^..;i^z^:j^ Flo BfalMt >o. 60 Pio Exhibit No. 60 —Continued Pio Exhibit Xo. 60 — Continued 127 i FD.302 (R.V. 3-3.S9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA'i .oN If 1 /^ Hnt, 12/11/63 Me. EDWARD EUGENE PIERCE, 1726 Michigan Street, -^ "^^ Dallas, Texas, advised as follo\7s: 1^ ^ <:'^^ He is employed as a Building and Maintenance employee T by the city of Dallas. He works in the Dallas Municipal Build- : -X ing and the Dallas Police Department and Courts Building. ^i" On November 24, 1963, he worked the 7:00 AM -3:00 PM \^^i shift and was the only maintenance employee on duty that day. . ^-p He was responsible for the maintenance work in both of the .^ ^ two previously mentioned buildings, which are adjacent to pv-.' each other and connected by corridors. He had no specific assignment on November 24, 1963. During the covirse of the. morning he was in and out of ^ v^ the Police Department basement area on two or three occasions /, prior to about 9:00 AM. He was in the maintenance supervisor's ^ office in the sub-basement of the building at about that time. ^ The service elevator is the only elevator that goes to the - '-^ sub-basement. ^S^ About 9:00 AM, he came up on the service elevator to the main Police Department basement area. There were two Negro porters that worked the same date also in te basement area. They were JOHN SERVANCE, head porter, and ALFREIDA RIC-GS, a porter, both in the Building and Maintenance Department. In ^t addition, he saw HAROLD FUQUA, employed as basement parking lot . attendant, in the basement. FUQUA is in charge of parking cars '^ in the basement area. The elevator operator on th e service ^^ elevator was named McKENZIE. He stood around the parking lot area opposite the jail office for about one-half an hour with SERVANCE, RIGGS, and FUQUA. They watched IhB cameras that were in the basement area. About that time, a uniformed police officer, name unknown, told them that everybody had to leave the basement area. At that time, there were other police officers, possibly 30 in number, checking through all police cars and other vehicles in the base- ment. The unlocked car trunks were also checked on the vehicles in the basement. He, SERVANCE, RIGGS, aa d FUQUA, thought they '^•^^^ -_Ex.No.5132 PIERCE,Ed.E. Deposition. Dallas 4-l-6ii 12/11/63 Dallas, Texas DL ^., . 44-1639 at ! Fil« ? EDMOND C. HARDIN and by Special Aa.ntS ROBERT J. WXIJKJ^SON LIB DoU dictofd 12/11/63 PiEECE (Ed. E.) Exhibit No. 5132 128 DL 44-1639 2 could still stay in the basement and watch the proceedings if they kept out of the way. The four of them then got into the service elevator, but left the door open and continued looking out into the basement. The same police officer then came over and told them that they had to close the elevator door and move the elevator to another floor. The officer commented that they had to get everyone out of the basement area. The four men went to the first floor. He did not go back to the basement area until approximately 1:30 PM the same day. On November 24, 1963, he had his name plate attached to his clothing. SERVANCE, RIGGS, and FUQUA had their names sewn on their clothing, which is usual procedure for city 'employees in that department. The four men were in the basement area approximately a half -hour prior to being forced to leave, as previously related. However, the two porters occasionally left the basement area on business during that same period. One of the women telephone operators, first name RUTH, described as a white female, about 30 years old, was down in the basement area and had to leave the basement area at the same time the four men did. She rode up on tlie service elevator with them. Earlier, during the same morning, the women telephone operators occasionally came down to the basement to look aro^nd for a short period. This was prior to the time that police officers cleared the basement area. He thought there were poss- Lbily two or three women telephone operators on duty that day. The four men stayed on the first floor of the Municipal Building, until after OSWALD was shot. There is a locked gate Ln the connecting corridor on each floor between the Municipal Building and the Police and Courts Building. There was no one ;lse in the Municipal Building to his knowledge, but they could see there was quite a crowd over in the Police and Courts Building. He does not know JACK RUBY, and did not see anyone who esembled RUBY's photograph, during the period of November 22 hrough 24, 1963. Cf?S^^^ M Pierce (Ed. E.) Exhibit No. 5132 —Continued 129 DL 44-1639 3 During the period h© was in tho basement area, the only other persoES he saw besides police officers iad the pre- viously mentioned individuals, were one or two television cameramen. After the four men went to the first floor of the Municipal Building, as previously related, he unlocked the door on the Commerce Street side and they stood outside the .. doorway looking around. There was a uniformed police officer outside the door who told them they could not stand outside the doorway and had to go back in the building. He also saw other policemen along the sidewalk and observed that there was a line of policemen along the sidewalk in front of the entire building. He further stated h© saw police officers on duty at the Commerce Street ramp entrance to the basement. He changed a lightbulb in the City Jail on November 23, 1963, near OSWALD'S cell and saw OSWALD on that occasion. That was the oiLy time that he observed OSWALD. OSWALD was in a cell by himself and there was an empty cell on each side. He observed several police officers on duty in the immediate vicinity of OSWALD'S cell at that time. He had no other pertinent information concerning this natter. Pierce (Ed. E.) Exhibit No. 5132 —Continued 130 . W. 4ii-l639/eah 1 "Kovenber 26 ^ I963 'Mr. J. E. Carry 'Chief of Police "Subject: Se-:;-jclty Of Farking Area Of City Hall I>.^rxag Transfer Of Lee Karvey Oswald ?ir: "At approximately 9: CO A.M.^ Svciday. November 2ii, 19^3, I was instructed by Captain Tt^.lb'irt to c-all tnough Gqu.vls to the City Hsll. to Soctif-t in t-be tva.^jSf^,T of Let? Harvey Os\.rHld. I called thirteen (13) sooado to report to Station 511 • This was a total of cinetesn (19) men. '%Jhen the officers started ^rrivit^g I instructed Sergeant P. T. Dc;an to rej-ort to the parking 'srea and remove all unautViorized persons f rtim t.V;is area and kef-p this aiefi free from eu:'-. persons until after the transfer had bean siade* "At approxlro/ritely 9-'*-0 A.M. I infstructed four (!+) officers to report to Sergeant "D^a-n for fre purpcr-e of securing this area and instructed the r^ni'-'dnder of the officers who had been called tc the station to remain It', the Sergeant ''3 Room of the Patrol Office to be used ar? a pool ^,s needed. "I later rhecked the -n-i^rkip? area a^- approriiaitely 10:15 A-.M,. and found it to be free of ur'auT,.*iori?ed petrO'^nel. "I then vent to che Hcmi'-'ide Here ay for fwidltional information. I regained at thi.'? locatio'2 uncil the ioterrogation had been ' completed. At this time Caief Curry and Chief Stevencon instructed me to secure a car and Fome uniform off icsr? and escort the ancored trucks via Elm Street to the Coxirt Houce. "I rode the elevator to the b ,; persons knovrn to him. Ke explained that he had subsequently ;.•"'/ 1"^! been informed that one of these persons was a former Dallas i_^'' ^ . policeman by the name of N« J„ DANIELS and another v/as a 17''\-- '^~' - ' ^" '^" i bootblack v;ho had formerly operated in the City Hall. He is ' ',' ^ .( ! personally acquainted with DANISLS l)Ut said he did not knov; '' ^"!l>-""^'^ jj'f\ if he could recognize the bootblack or not* ?Ie said that he - r.^ T I does not recall who the people were standing by the Main Street ramp v/hen they emerged and could not say whether or ,„ 12/5/63 ... ^L^l±^-_.: - • -.^. ii l>L ^4-1639 ^LLT:: I:, s*-! • >y SpocicI AaontS TOM 'ii ,^:Z^sL:-1}.' ..^- . .... - -.- - /t-'-, -Jlct-uvs^ S-2./Z/53 rhla docume.;: contain, nallhor reco=.mandatlor.s nor concte,;:c.na oi u.o f EX.NO.5078 PIERCE, RloS. DepOSitiOD "'^ rour as.nc/; I, o,.o be du.rlbut.d ou„We your a,a— DallSS Dallas 3-24-64 j-^^-oit I Pierce (Rio S.) Exhibit No. 5078 133 j 2 VL 44-1639 not DANIELS was or.e of these people. Lieutenant PIEF.CE s'abso^qyftntly hear-d during 'the police investisation as to how RUBY ir,ot into the basement; that ori'icer VAUGRInT nad aslced this Termer policeman^ DANIELS if anyone had gone down the 'ia sement while he moved from his post and DANIELS told VAUgB2^? that no one had. He said that it was strange that DANISi..S told VAUG'K^' that he had seen no one enter, and had told others that he had. VAUGHN v;as subseo.uently questioned by the Police Department v;ith the polygraph concerning the allegation that RUBY entered the basement through his post. According to Lieutenant PIERCE, VAUGHN was truthful when he said he did not see RUBY or allow him to enter the Police Pepartra?nt basement. C ^^ is-' Pierce (Rio S.) Exhibit No. 5078— Continued 134 fS-soi-cr.v. 3-3-58) FEDERAL BUREAU Or i,\VESViG/i I lOM \^ / aacetiber 2. IS S3 S^ i^l^v ^-,1 -^ 2 cheered, also other places a person coulc: hide. All civilian er:-;loyee3 uould be removed fro-^ the bciaerjent area and the elevator in the net? 'buildiiis "^-^oulcl he loclrcd at the xirst floor. Ahout 9s20 or 9s30 A.LI. as the officers started to , arrive at police station, PISIIG3 instructed Sergeant P. 13, DEAI'J to talie $1 group of officers to the basenent area to carry out "these instructions. About 10:15 A.M., Lieutenant PIEP.CS checl:ed the parking area in the police basement and satisfied himself that the area had been cleared. Lieutenant PIERCE advised that he then proceeded to the Eonicide "Bureau for additional instructions. He left Sergeants DEAl;? and PCaWALI in charge 'of the uniform officers v7ho in turn assigned the men their specific posts. Lieutenant PIEECE remained at the Homicide Bureau -antii about 11:15 A.M. at uiiica tiiuc CIiio£ CUa?.Y and Cbio^ SI'EVEIISON instructed him to secure a police car and some uniform officers to escort the armored truck from the Co::r:erce Street ramp to the Court Eouse. Lieutenant PIERCE' proceeded to the Police Department basement ^hore he obtained a police car and instructed Sergeants B. J. LIVJTEY and J. A. PUTNALI to accompany him. Uhen he arrived in the basement uhich uas "jamisci' A7ith police officers and press and television people. He estimated that approscimately 50 press people uere there and a like number of police officers. He stated that he could noc identify any of the Press people by name. After obtaining the police car, Sergeant PCTNALI moved the croud out of the uay so that the' car could proceed out the L!ain Street ramp. Lieutenant PISnCE observed Captain . C, O. AKJETT, a reserve police officer and another reserve police officer, unknown to him, stationed at ths bottom of this ramp and officer E. E. VAUGHI^ at the top of this ramp. Lieutenant PIEPtCS accompanied hy Sergeants llAZEY and PUTNALi, proceeded out of the police station in the police car, turning left on Liiin Street, left on Haruood and proceeded to the Commerce Street police ramp, Uhen they arrived at this position, orficers were running to cover all exits of the City Hall and they learned at this time that OSUALD had been shot as he uas being transferred. , Lieutenant PIEECE stated that he did not see the M shooting or hear the shot fired. He is acquainted XTith RUBY i) and has knovra RIBY for approximately 12 or 13 years. Eio acquaintance with RUBY was through official police work and Cf?5T rf7 Pierce (Rio S.) Exhibit No. 5079 —Continued 136 )L ^4-1659 «e has never v7orl£ed for lLh2Y nor does he kacu any other police )xficer that has ever v/orI:sd for EUBY in their spare time or )theruise. Ee last saw RU3Y approiiir^ately one year ago and le did not see him on November 2k, I965, the day that OSUPJLD 7Q.S shot. Lieutenant PIERCE advised that he did not have an iccasion to persorrally admit anyone to the building, hoT7ever, lis instructions to his nen were that only authorised nencnen ritb a press pass or other credentials and police officers rith proper identification \7ere to he adnitted to the 'ouilding, [e has no Irnonledge of any unauthorised persons being adnitted ;o the "basecent area. Lieutenant PIESCS advised he has no knowledge or^any nforiration regarding any relationship existing between RoSZ nd OSUILD. ^ r^^i"" f^ Pierce (Rio S.) Exhibit No. 5079—Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 11 137 VOLUNTARY STATEMENT. ^-^''^^^^^'^ -^ Before me. the undersigned authority, on thU the _^l£5^day of A. D. 19 „ appeared . "ddie Piper ... 3402 llur.yev Avenue, Dalla personally i iZ!£ ^'IJI^tor- Tcxas^ChOol i.1: Dep. Age 53 . Phone No. ^A 1 21SQ Deposes and says:- I have baen employed as janitor xor the Texas School Book Depository for a little over 4 years. I do thepackiri;^ of the books as viell as lock up at night. I caras to vork yesterday about 10: CO AM and I v7ork until 7':00p;i. There has been a man that I know only as "Lee" vjho has been vorkins there about 5 V7eeks. Ha fills the orders and I pack the orders. Yesterday, at 12:00 Koon, this fello^-7 Lee says to xns, "I'm soing up to eat" and I want on to ay lunch. I V7ent to a front v;indoT;'7 on the first floor and ate ray lunch and waited to see the Presidcniis parade go by. I saw the px-esident pass and heard come shots and locked at the clock there and saw it vras 12:25P^'I. Tlie shots seer^ad to tae like they came frota up inside the building. It v/as about 1:00 K-I when the police made us vacate the building and as \7e were being checked out, I noticed that "Lee" wasn't with us and I nientionad to sotne of the employees there chackins out that Lee V7asn't there and scoiebody said, he must have already Sone cat. This ra.an Lee has never talked vnuch to anyone and hardly ever said anything to nia. Ke kept pretty much to himself and hardly even answer when I vrould say "Gocdmorning". 63 ^ ^ .^ J . ., ... Subscribed and sworn to before me on this the —23rd _ da/of /. Ilcvcrier . .^, y^^.D. 19 Notary Public, Dalla^County, Texas I Piper Exhibit A 138 Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-A Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-B 139 Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C 140 Novemte I963 Articles ricked up at Suspect's houso, 1026 \'orth Pcckley by Turner, Potts, yooro, ami r^enkelj Search 'warrant SV7 295 issued by Judfo David Johnston 1 pair black Phooa 1 pair brown shoes 1 pair tlionf; chocs 1 portable radio (Kyduct) 1 roll wax paper (Kitchen charm) Several articles of clctliing, tair grey trousers and other r.iccellnr.caus men' 'clothing. 299 Potts Exhibit A-2 142 RSPCRT ON OFFICER'S DOTIES IN REGARDS TO THE PRE2IDEiIT»S KURESR V/. E. POTTS - ^576 On Friday, November 22, I963, I was on ray day off. At 1:00 PI^ I heard on the radio that the Preeddent had been shot, I called our office and talked to Det. T. L, Baker, and he told me to report for duty, I arrived at our office. Homicide and Robbery Bureau at 2:00 FM, After arriving at the office, I took an affidavit from Danny Garcia Arce, w/m/l8, and Jack E. Dougherty, w/m/liO. Both of these men are employees of the Texas School Book Depository^ T was in the process of taking an affidavit from Dougherty vhen the uniform officers brought in a white male they said killed Officer J, D, Tippit. I later learned that the man the officers brought in our office was Lee Rarvey Oswald, Mr, Dougherty and Mr, Arce saw Oswald, and told rae that he was em- ployed at the same place they were employed, the Texas School Book Depositary, ^was about 2:1^0 Wx when I flni*ed taking affidavits from Dougherty and Arce. Capt, Fritz told Det, B. L, Senkel and myself to go to 1026 North Beckley and search the room of Lee Harvey Oswald. Lt, E, L, Cunningham went with Det. >enkel and myself to this address, VTien we arrived at 1026 North Beckley, we sontactcd Mrs. Earlene Roberts, who is the landlady, and a Mrs, A. C. Johnson. Phis was at 3:00 T^, November 22, I963. Ve checked the registration book for Alex Hidell or Lee Harvey Oswald, but could find neither of the names in the book. The television was on, and they d^owed a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald, and frs, Johnson and Yra, Roberts recognised the man as one of their roomers and said he haiJ registered as 0. H, Lee. They then directed us to his room whidi 230 Potts Exhibit B 143 W, E. Potts - Page 2 ia a. snail room ^ust off the living room. Wo found that Leo Harve/ Oswald had rented the room October 11, 1963» and usod the name 0. H. I^e, Ve uaitod until Justice of the Toace, Pavid L. Johnston, Tet, 7. ^. Tumor, Pet. H, V, Kooro, end Anoistant TDiatriot Attorney, Bill Alexander, arrived with the search wai-rant, TVis was about bOO or ?:00 TO when the above nened men arrived at 1026 North PecVley. Vq then proceoded to search the roon of Loe Harvey Osvjald © 0. H, Leo, Ve recovered a City of Dallas Map with sevoral locations marked on it, a leather holster, pair of binoculars, numerous letters addr«sPod to I«3 Harvoy Oswald, several booVs and personal papers (See attached list for complete list). We then brought all this property to Room 317, City Hall, Oa Noveaber 23, 1963, I reported to work at 10:00 AM and worked in the office answering telephone calls. I worked in the office until 12i00 irddnight. On Novonber 2^,, 1963, Det. F. M. Turner and my£«lf took a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald, DPD J?5l;0l8, to h007 Flamingo Ptreet in Mesquite, Texas, to the honio of Ponald Fischer, w/n/2h, phone number BR 9-0950. Kr, Fischer's business addresfl is the County Auditor's office. Re stated that the pict\u:e looked like the person he saw looking out of a window on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, a few minutes before the President's motorcade arrived at Elm and Houston. He would not say definitely lt> was the maa he saw, but he stated it looked like hin. Potts Exhibit B — Continued 144 W. E. Potts - Page 3 On November 23, I963 at 2il5 fW Det. B. L. Senkel and I accompanied a show up, conolBting of ffl. John Thurmnn Horn, (?2 David Knapp, fi^ Le« Harvey Oswald, th, Daniel Lujan, from the Jail office to the show up room. I stood on the stage durinp the show up and coiiLd hear Pet, Loavelle'a voice, who was conducting the phow up. I could not see Lcavelle throu/^h the black screen. After the "Shovmp, Dot, S^nkel and I took the four above montioned persons to the jail office elevator, and waited until they were safely on the elevator, before leaving. Potts Exhibit C 145 ^cj ^^ir/// r. Xd/y^^/f ^-S^ ^^ Powell, Nancy Eidiibit 1 d^"^^^ Powell Exhibit No. 1 146 FD.302 (R.v. 3.3.S9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTiGA . JN 9^\ '? T, / f<$ ^ i eJzJ z;^ n.t> Dec. 1. 1Q63 Oklahom a City, Oklahoma ,., ^ DL 44-1639 u. ^^.^.^-j^ GLENN S, SILVEY & »y Special Ao«ntS DAVT.-:; S, T^VRRT.V/r.sh 11/25/63 ^^^^ ^\cX^x.^ your aqanoy. PowiXL Exhibit No. 2 147 , FD.302 (R.v. 3-3.S9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ^ ^ - n.to 11/25/63 NAITCY POWSLL. residing at 1217 Clarenco^Street Fort Wort^, fe'xas v/as interviewed at the Dallas jj3I , Office at which time she furnished the foilov/ins information: Miss POWELL is a striptease dancer who dances * under th^ name of TAilLII TRU2 During the past two years, . with the exception of approximately four months, she has danced cjontinually at the Carousel Club in Dallas, Texas. Miss POWELL first became acquainted with JACII RUBY approximately five years ago when he was operating the Vegas Club in Dallas. Liiss POV/ELL often went to the Vegas Club as a customer. Since she has been dancing at the Carousel Club she hac become well acquainted with JACK RUBY who is the ov/ncr ui operator of the Caroucoi : Club and considers him a clc-o personal friend. Miss POV/ELL has never dated JACK RUBY and has never known RUBY to date girls from the ^ow at the Carousel. However RUBY does date girls regularly some of v/hom appear in other clubs in Dallas. Miss POWELL said that RUBY was "definitely not homosexual". RUBY'S general relationship with his employees v;as good, however, RUBY had the type of temp(iC:::ent that would cause him to loose his temper and yell at his employees but ^af.ter he had gotten the grievance off his chest he would forget about it. Miss INDWELL last saw JACK RUBY on the evening of November 19, ''l9S3 and has not seen him or talked to him since that time. She quit her job at the Carousel on November 19 because of the difficulty she had commuting between Fort Worth and Dallas. Miss POWELL never heard JACK RUBY discuss politics but indicated that he was an individual v/ho felt very strongly about little things and could build himself up to a "brC^aking point" over things that did not amount to much. She never sav/ RUBY with a gun but assumed that he had one since he carried large sums of money each night from the Carousel Club to his apartment. She felt the club was solven t finan ciall y and ^z:;.,:. ,.-:i:..,':v:;: '.vil^.^z:::::::, :in^ , Powell, Nancy Exhibit 3 ;, j on 11/24/63 „> Dallas, Texas ^ p.,^ ^^ DL 44-1639 GARY S.. WILSON <2;^^ by Spociol Ag:,nt ^ JOSEPH G. PEGGS/^rh , Qo^o dictated 11/24/^3 Tnt» doovii^eat ac.-.:^i.no ivoitho? rocoQta«ndatlona nor ooncluolons o< tb9.pBIr''/,Xt i# tha-proporty ^ Iba PSI and U l^^^J-Q yqiir ag«apyj it and tU ocBtonis ara not to b« dlsuibutad outakl* your aQ«D«y> 'V'^l- PowELL Exhibit No. 3 148 ^p. 2 DL 44-1639 knew that JACK RUBY had no financial difficulties. RUBY has, what she believes, 50 per cent interest in the club, the other half beinc; ovmed by RALPH PAUL who operates the Bull pen in Arlington, Texas, and lives on a rural route in Arlington. ' RUBY had an obsession concerning the operation of the Carousel Club and did everything possible to operate this club in the proper manner and would not tolerate his master of ceremonies telling religious, obscene, or political jokes nor would he allow his comics to ridicule any particular group. Miss PO'.VSLL knows of no real difficulty with the law that RUBY has been involved in v/ith the exception of an incident that happened approximately four weeks ago. This incident involved a dancer by the name of JADA v/ho was from New Orleans, Louisiana, and had been dancing at the club for tv/o or three months. JACK RUBY had cautioned JADA concerning Gciue obscenity in her act and had instructed her to clc::n up her act. One night RUBY was forced to turn off tl: lights on JADA's - act when he felt that she v/£.s "way out c_' line" An . argument ensued after this incidant. J..::.: Eu3Y refused to pay JADA and according to jAD- threatened to throw her down the stairs. JADA allegedly swore out a complaint against JACK RUBY for the above threats and this v/as settled before Dallas Night Judge RICJIBERG and JACK RUBY paid JADA her back salary and she left Dallas. Miss POV/ELL knows of no close relationship between RUBY and any particular newspapermen or policemen and indicated that RUBY was well knov/n both at the police Department and Sheriff's Office as well as being well acquainted with many newspapermen in the city of Dallas. II:' 3S POWELL indicated that RUBY would be recognized by almost anyone on the Dallas police Department and felt that he was most likely recognized by the police and ignored because they were acquainted with him. fl-P, DL 44-1639 Miss POWELL indicated that JACK RUBY's closest friend is RALPH PAUL and stated that she did not know any particular women with v;hom he v/as associated. Miss POV/ELL was shown a photograph of LEE EARVEY OSV/ALD and advised that OSV/AID was unknown to her She was . positive that she had never seen OSV/ALD in the Club Carousel, —Continued PowEix Exhibit No. 3 149 TOP SECRET Novcnibcr 23, 1963 George G. Burkley, M.D. • Houcc l?hii:c ' '.vashinstor., D.C. Dear Dr. Burkley, As you requested, I enclose an abstract of tho cidrdGcion of the late President: John F. ICennedy to Perkiand >2iriorial Hospital, Dallas, Texas. This suruc^ary is prepared frcia the statements of several physicians who were present- and adisiniotered to the President. Tlieir statements were written the after- noon of the tragedy. VJe have kept three copies of this report locally. Cue 'has been sent to the Dean's Office, The University of Teicas South-vTCStern •'edical School, as all the physicians in attendance hold positions there. One copy has been attached 1:0 the medical record in Parkland Memorial Hos- pital. I have retained one copy for my files. . Please accept this report with my deepest sym- * pathy. Should you see Jics. Kennedy, would you convey the deep feelings of grief and sorrow of the entire Staff of Parkland MeLiorial Hospital. My own personal feelings of loss and tragedy go with this letter. Yours sincerely. Kerr.p Clark, M.D. Director Service of Neurological Surgery cc to Dean's Office, Southwestern Medical School ycc to i'edical Records, Parkland Memorial Hospital TOP SECREf/^^^^/ Price Exhibit No. 2 150 TOP SECRET The Fresidenc arrived at the Ecergency Room at 12:43 P.M., the 22nd of Kcvenber, 1963. He was in the back sect of his limousine. Governor Connally of Texas. . vj:;3 ai£o in this car. The first physician to see the President vjas Dr. Ja^ies Carrico, a Resident in General Surgery. ^ . Dr. Carrico noted the President to have slow, a-r-cr.alrespiratory efforts. Me could hear a heartbeat but found no pulse or blood pressure to be present. ':\;o external wounds, one in the loxver third of the an- terior neck, the other in the occipital region of the skullj v:ore noted. Throush the head vjound, blood and brain*were extruding. Dr. Carrico inserted a cuffed endotracheal tube, vrnile doins so, he noted a ragged v;cund of the trachea iirjr.ediately below the larynx. At this time. Dr. l^Calcoliu Perry, Attending Sur- geon^ Dr. Charles Baxter, Attending Surgeon, and Dr. ' . RonaM Jones, another Resident in General Surgery, arrived. Lr^ediately thereafter, Dr. M. T. Jenkins, Director of the Dcparti:nent of Anesthesia, and Doctors Giasecke and Hunt, tv;o other Staff Anesthesiologists, a arrived. Tae endotracheal tube had been connected to Bennett 'respire tor to assist the President's breathing. An Anesthesia machine vas substituted for this by Dr. Jenkins. Only 1007» oxygen was adiiinistered. A cutdow:n was perforined in the right ankle, and 3 rjolyethylene catheter inserted in the vein. An infu- sion of lac ta ted iUnger's solution v;a3 begun. Blood type was drav.-n for typo and crossmatch, but unmatched .''G'= negative blood was immediately obtained and be- iil-I gun. Hydrocortisone 300 ingnis was added to the intra- venous fluids. Dr. Robert McClelland, Atteiiding Surgeon, arrived to hel-o in* the President's care. Doctors Perry, Baxter, a--d*'2'-cCleiland began a tracheostomy, as considerable quan* * tities of blood were present from the President's oral .^.. ._,,^ At this time. Dr. Paul Peters, Attending Uro- 'i'.-r^icaV'surceon, and Dr. Kemp Clark, Director of Neuro- 'c'^ical Surgery, arrived. Because of the lacerated I TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 151 TOP SECRET ?n-V 2 r^chca, anterior chest tubes v;crG placed in both pleural )aces. Those ware connected to sealed underwater drain- Ixeurolo.'jicai e:xraination revealed the President's pupils to be x?icely dilated and fixed to li^ht. His eyes were diverii^ents being deviated outv?ard; a skew deviation froti the hori:iontal v.'aa present. No deep tendon reflexes or spontaneous uovcnients were found. 2here was a lar2e wound in the risht occipito- parietal region, frcm which profuse bleeding was occur- ring. 1500 cc. of blood were estisiated on the drapes r.-sid floor of the Emergency Operating Pvoor.. There V7as considerable loss of scalp and bone tissue. Both cere- bral and cei-ebe liar tissue were extruding from the wound. Further e:i:ar::ination was not possible as cardiac arrest occurred at this point. Closed chest cardiac K.^-ssa^e was begun by Dr. Clark. A pulse palpable in both the carotid and feraoral arteries was obtained. Dr. Perry relieved en the cardiac rr.assase while a cardiotachioscope was connected. Dr. Fouad Bashourj Attending Physician, arrived as this was being connected. There was electri«» cai silence of the President's heart. President Kennedy was pronounced dead at 1300 hours hy Dr. Clark. ICccpClark, M.D. Director Service of Keurological Surgery cc to Dean's Office, Southi-7estem Medical School i^cc to Medical Records, Parkland Meaprial Hospital TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 152 TOP SECRET Tnc President arrived in the Emergency Room at exactly ^^3(^l-2^f43^p.m. in his limousine. He was in the back seat, '-^'^^^^y ^^* ^" ^^® front seat of the same car, i'C)/-i^^°^' Gov. Connally was brought out first and was put in room two. ^ (P^"'"'''^ President was brought out next and put in room one. Dr. Clark pronounced the President dead at 1 p.m. exactly. All of the President's belongings except his watch were given to the Secret Service. His watch was given to Mr. 0. P. Wright. He left the Energency Room, the President, at about 2 p.m. in an O'Neal ambulance. He was put in a bronze colored plastic casket after being wrapped in a blanket and was taken out of the hospital. He was removed from the hospital,. Tlie Gov. was taken from the Emergency Room to the Operating Room. The President's wife refused to take off her bloody gloves, clothes. She did take a towel and wipe her face. She took her wedding ring off and and placed it on one of the President's fingers. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 2—Continued 744-732 O— 64-vol. XXI 12 1^3 X . TOP SECRET AFFIDAVIT I, Ulah McCoy, Chief Clerk in the Admitting Office of Parkland Memorial Hospital, do hereby state the following facts concerning the Record of Death of President John F. Kennedy on November 2?, 1963: ! j. "Mrs. Jeanette Standridge in the Nursing Service Emergency I came to the Admitting Office and Picket up a blank Record I of Death. She did not state the purpose for which she ! desired this Record of Death form. A blank Record of Death I form was handed to her and she left. I presume that this blank Record of Death was to be used to record President I; Kennedy's death, but I did not know then, nor do I know I now that this was the purpose for which this blank was used. ! This is the extent of my knowledge of any Record of Death . |: prepared for President Kennedy." Ulah McCoy TATE OF TEXAS X mUNTY OF DALLAS On, the ^£. :222_ ^ day ot/^ ^ j:2i=^ ^ 1963, before to me known to be the individual .jdescribed in and who exebuted the foregoing instrument and acknow- ledged that he executed the same OX^ ^^ Notary Public in and for fiSllas County, Texas. TOP SECRHU^r 3 Price Exhibit No. 3 154 TOP SECRET AfflPAYIT I, Dorla Nelson, Nursing Supervisor In Emergency Room of Parkland Memorial Hospital, have the following statement tomake relative to the Record of Death prepared for President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963: "Dr. Kemp Clark, Chief of Neurosurgery, Southwestern Medical School, asked if all that was necessary was a Record of Death. On my Instruction, Mrs. Jeanette Standridge obtained Record of Death form, and I saw Dr. Clark and the doctor whom Secret Service Informed me was the President's physician go into the nurse's station of major surgery. Now I do not definitely know who this Record Of Death was given to, but presume it was given to the Secret Service and President's doctor. This Is the extent of ray knowledge concerning the preparation of the Record of Death and its disposition, as I did not see the completed form. /(%4,i^ /kJ^irtr^ Doris Nelson THE STATE OF TEXAS X CQHPY OF DALLAS X ; '' On the ^^^^.<^-^^ to me known to be the Individual described in and who executed the foregoing Instrument and acknow- ledged that he executed the same. -:l Notary Public in and for Dallas County, Texas. TOP S^^ftE^^^ Price Exhibit No. 4 155 O TOMICRET Price Exhibit No. 5 156 'ARKLANO i:OS!>ITAL - OtHRGIiXCV r^JA'DF. M^DJCIPJS \ ] ' Tri;.ne Area - All ) ! Er.orgcncy patients ' stop here ypfiA. ^.f: .linorMedicine 5 Surgery - Door 16 2 I i ^Vl. J^l I iv^ \ r;3-Pediatrics Door 364 0.0 GYN ^\ P^l OB-Cyn Door (-'3 i^j Pediatrics Door "4 \ Major Surgery SMcdicme' ^ I 'f^'^ Door 5 6 6 ! Mcjor Medicine Door #6 Police Room Door "7 TO''^- fiA y Booths in Major Med. -^^ S^KGSRV No. 1 - 10 Sooths in Minor Medicine 6 Surgery MAJon No. 1- 15 M£DiClti£. -fl— iPaiuiiaafi^ DOC. CALL \ Kb 1.1 ITTIMG OFFICE TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 6 157 . TOP SECRET Or. Friday, November 22, 1963, I had left the cafeteria shortly before 12:30 and walked down the steps to the coffee shop on the basement floor to make a purchase at the gift shop. I returned by elevator to the first floor and remember someone sayin^r^ "Tne President just went by." Someone cist- said, "He turned into the hospital." Then another i. _, "On, God! He's been hurt and they're brinjrinjT him here." I went immediately to c\\e emergency area and directly : Major Surijery. I believe I was stopped at the corridor entrance the Admitting Office and identified by a hospital person, but I um not sure. The first thing I remember seeing in the Major Surgery area was Mrs. Kennedy outside Trauma Room #1, and Mrs. Doris Nelson standing at the -;.crancc to the trauma room in a blood-splattered uniform. There were others there in the corridor, but I don't remember any faces Tlie Major Surgery area was crowded with unnecessary personnel. I asked all hospital personnel and medical staff who were no .drectly involved with patients to leave the area. It was necessary to repeat this about three times before the area was finally cleared and it still remained crowded because of the military aides and other members presendential of the presendiai party as well as those medical staff and hospital personnel attending patients. I closed the door to the OB-Gyn area and had the door to Radiology closed and asked someone to cover the windows on both doors with ' paper and tape. I then went out to get a police officer to secure the door from the Radiology Department to the Emergency Room. TOP SKREf^^ ^-^ Price Exhibit No. 7 158 By the triajjc desk TOP SECRET I saw Mr, Price and Mr. Holcomb for the first time and the/ said, "There's Steve," and told me the girls ' upstairs needed me since they were jretting swamped by telephone calls. I said I would call then. I then went out the back door of the emergency entrance to Police Chief Curry and asked for an officer to secure the Emergency Room and was given one immediately. Upon my return to Major Surgery, I again noticed Mrs. Kennedy, who was sitting on a chair by this time with a man in a brown suit and with gray hair kneeling beside her chair. I believe he was Congressman Gonzalez from San Antonio. I went to the sink in the nurses' station. Major Surgery, to get a cup of water for Mrs. Kennedy. As I passed by the chart desk, I overhead a man on the telephone saying "He's pretty bad, Mr. Attorney General." I took the cup of water to Mrs. Doris Nelson and asked her to give it to Mrs. Kennedy and offer to help clean up some of the blood that was visible on her face and her clothing. I then called Fayetta from the Major Surgery nurses' station and told her to say nothing to the press until she heard from me. 1/hen I came out someone shouted, "Get a priest." The phones in the nurses' station were now busy, so I went to Social Service and called Holy Trinity Catholic Church. A voice that I thought was Fatlier Oscar lluber's answered and I identified myself and said we needed a priest at Parkland right away. Tlie voice answered, "He's on his way." I went directly to the ambulance dock and told police Chief Curry that a priest was in route and asked him to send someone to assist him in getting into the hospital. I returned to Major Surgery and asked a member of the UTiite House staff, "Who's handling the press?" I had pointed out to me a man by the name of Killruf as Assistant V.Tiite House Press Secretary. I went to Mr. Killruf and id en TOJ^y SC CtR^T "^at I could do to Pbice Exhibit No. 7 — Continued 159 3. help the press. He sailVcwiin^?V)"m*rileased, And then he said "We need a place to take the V.'hite House Press Corps." I said, "Let's go." We went upstairs at a run and I said, "VVe can use the Doctors' Lounge or nurses classrooms." IVe went first to the Doctors' Lounge and he said it was too small. We then went to classroom 101 and 102, which he said would be fine. He went out the side door to bring the White House press around. I went to the College of Nursing office and told then 101 and 102 would be out of service indefinitely. I think I told either Bob Struwe or the girls in the office to order extra straight lines from the phone company, but I am not sure of this. I went back downstairs to Major Surgery where Mrs. Nelson motioned me over and whispered to me, "Kennedy's dead." I asked if the priest had come, she said no, so I went out through OB-Gyn and remember seeing Mr. Geilich for the first time. I saw Mr. Price- and whispered "He's dead." I then went to the ambulance dock and asked Chief Curry if he had seen the priest. He said no. He then asked, "Is the President dead?" I answered, "Yes." He turned and walked away. About that moment I saw Father Huber and took him by the hand and said, "Please hurry. Father," and led him back to Major Surgery. As I recall when he went into the room, another priest that I believe was Father Thompson came into the area. I remember seeing Mayor Cabell standing just outside the trauma room door. At that moment a secret service man with no coat on and a bloody shirt came up to me and said, 'T/e've got to get a casket." I said, "Let's go." We then started for the corridor. Mr. Price stopped me and asked, "habere are you going." I said,, "To get a casket." He said, "Wait, somebody's already doing that." I called back the secret service man who was already in the corridor. He talked with Mr. Price and several others and Mr. Price said take him to a phone and get a casket f6°ii'%fecRl¥ Peice Exhibit No. 7 — Continued 160 from the nearest funerlWJfe. ^ttfceK* lecret service nan my coat to cover l\is bloody shirt. He said he had put his over the President. We v/ent first to Social Service and asked Mrs. Deibel, "Where is the nearest funeral home?" She said, "O'Neal's on Oak Lawn." U'e got the teleplione number, but could not obtain an out- side line. We then tried Mrs. Sawyer's office, but could not j^et a line there either. We went to Mr. Price's office and used his private line. I called O'Neal's Funeral H\me and identified myself to Mr, O'Neal and then turned the phone over the secret service anent whose name I believe was Clint ) \^ I L ^ The secret ser- vice agent said that they needed a casket right away at Parkland Hospital. I don't recall him saying who or what it was far. He then gave the telphone back to me and Mr. O'Neal asked me what kind of a casket they wanted. I asked the secret service man who replied, "Tell him to send the best that they have on hand, and send it right away." I relayed the message to Mr. O'Neal. We then returned to Major Surgery and encountered Bob Struwe, whom I remember asked me something about telephones in the Doctors' Lounge, but I don't remember what it was. I returned to Major Surgery and believe at this point I picked up a telephone and called Norris Uzee and told him to lower the flag to half-mast. Mr. Price at this point asked me to get some more water for Mrs. Kennedy, which I did, and believe I gave it to Doris Nelson to give to her. I noticed at this time that some coffee was being brought in from the corridor and taken back into the area where Mrs. Kennedy was. on taking Mr. Price then called me over and asked me how they planned TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 161 5. out, and I don't reinembeT\^"er5EGJ€lt IJohnson or the .President's body, but I told him I did not know. He then stopped a member of the Presendential party and said he knew o£ a way to get him out without going through the crowd, Mr. Price then left with some members of the Presendential party to investigate whatever route he had in mind, presumably through the tunnel to the Staff Residence. V/hile they were gone, another secret service man or member of the presendential party came up to me and asked if the casket had 'arrived yet. I said, "Mot to my knowledge, but tliat I would check on it." I left the Major Surgery area, proceeded to the emergency ambulance dock where I determined that the casket had not yet arrived. I went back to the Major Surgery area where I was standing next to Mayor Cabell and overhead him saying to no one in particular, "It didn't happen, it didn't happen." I then left the Major Surgery area and went again to the ambulance dock where I noticed the white O'Neal hearse being pulled up with the casket. I turned and asked the police officers to clear the corridor because the casket was being brought in. It was, as I recall, a plain, bronze casket and I walked down the corridor ahead of the casket to just outside the door from the corridor into Major Surgery. At this point I turned around and noticed a half-dozen or more people helping to roll the casket with Mr. O'Neal. I noticed that several of them had on circular cardboard badges that I had seen being worn by the press, so I stopped the group and said, "That's' far enough. Thank you, we'll take it from here." Mr. Price as in the corridor and he and I and two secret service agents took the casket in the rest of the way. TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 162 6 I believe it was al ^iAfpo«Pwib^FArst noticed Mr. Eclw. Malier in the area. As I recall, he entered from the Radiology side, spoke to ne, and went into the area close to trauma room #1 and I do not recall seeing him again. At this point, a member of the l.'hite House staff approached me and asked if there was any way that the President's body could be removed other than the public corridor. I advised him that it could be taken out through the 08-Gyn section and through the doorway across from Minor Medicine and Surgery, but that it would still have to be taken out the emer- gency room entrance. I showed hin this possible route and he agreed that this would be the best one. I then attempted to clear the OB-Gyn area of all but necessary personnel and asked that the windows and the doors in this area be covered to prevent the possibility of any unnecessary observation or photographs. I recall two Otis elevator men who were standing by the emergency room elevator ask- ing if it was necessary to continue holding the elevator and I told them I felt it could be put back into normal service at this point. Within a very short time, I noticed Dr. Earl Rose, who was attempting to make out the necessary legal papers for removal of the body. Pie seemed quite agitated and upset, and was asking where Judge Ward was. During the next few minutes there was considerable activity trying to locate a justice of the peace and seemed to be some question as to whether or not an autopsy would be ordered on the President. Apparently after the necessary papers were completed, the door to trauma room #1 opened and two young men brought in by Mr. O'Neal to assist him and Mr. O'Neal himself rolled the casket out containing the President's body. Mrs. Kennedy stood at the rear of the casket and I TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 163 7. placed her right hand oif Pis9CW>RcBirg along with it. I took ahold on one side of the casket to assist and assisted rolling the casket as far as the area of the doorway opposite the Minor Medicine and Surgery area. At this point, I dropped back and followed the casket to the doorway from the ambulance entrance. I observed the casket being placed in the hearse. And noticed the curtains around the hearse windows had all been drawn as I had requested a few minutes earlier, after being so instructed by a member of the White House staff. I observed the hearse and other special cars pull out of the emergency entrance and leave, presumably for Love Field. I returned immediately to Major Surgery, walked in to Trauma Room #1 and remem- ber noticing some flowers in a wastebasket and an otherwise clean floor. I then recall saying something like let's get this place cleaned up and back into operation, though I do not remember to whom I said it. I then went into the corridor where I was confronted by Mr. Price carrying a tan briefcase with Governor Connally stamped in gold. He was escorting Dr. Luther Holcomb. Mr. Price asked me if I would take Dr. Holcomb up to Mrs. Connally. And gave me the briefcase and asked that I give it to Mrs. Connally, also. Two other people whom I did not know came up at that time and identified them- selves as members of the Connally family and asked to be taken to Mrs. Connally with Dr. Holcomb. I then proceeded to the Major Surgery area where I was admitted after identifying myself to a guard and being cleared by a nursing supervisor, whom I believe was Mrs. lluber. I then proceeded back to the office of Dr. M. T. Jenkins where I introduced myself to Mrs. Connally, gave her the briefcase and introduced Dr. Holcomb. A number of people, including Judge Merrill Connally, and other members of the family and friends including Mr. Cliff Cassidy were present in the room and in the TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 164 corridor outside. TOP SECRET ' I believe it was Mr. Cassidy who asked me if any arranjienents had been made to advise the press of the Governor's condition. I said, "No, but I would be happy to assist." He su;jgested after consulting with several other men in the corridor, whom I did not know, that I might go down and announce that a statement would be made shortly on the Governor's condition. I did this and believe that I was accompanied by Mr. Cassidy when I went down to 101 and 102. A number of the press were still there in great activity, and when I mounted the platform and made the announcement that there would be a statement very shortly on the condition of Governor Conally. V.'e then left the room and went directly back upstairs to the surgical suite. As we arrived, Dr. Robert Shaw was in the corridor and another man in scrub clothing, who was subsequently identified as Mr. Bill Stinson, Administrative Assistant to the Governor. Mr. Cassidy and several other men talked with Mr. Stinson, who made some comment to the effect that too many people were trying to make deci- sions and that he was the only one that could make them. I was then introduced to him by Mr. Cassidy and he advised me that all activities concerning the Governor should be coordinated through him, I told him that this was fine and would make it much easier for us to know who was in charge. At this point Dr. Shaw came out of the surgeons locker room; he, Julian Read, the Governor's press aide, Mr. Cassidy, Mr. Stinson and I proceeded down to 101 and 102, where Mr. Stinson introduced Dr. Shaw, who gave a report on the progress of surgery thus far on Governor Connally. I Returning to major surgery, Mr, Stinson advised me that it would TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 165 TOP SECRET be necessary to set up the Governor's office temporarily in the liospital and asked if there was an area available. I told hini that VvC would make space available and asked how nuch room was needed. Mr. Stinson supRcsted we f,o upstairs so he could take off his scrub suit, get on street clothinfr, and then check v/hatever areas might be used. V.'e returned to the surgical suite, where he dressed, aivi then came down to the Administrative Offices where I showed him Carol Reddick's area. He advised that this v/ould be adequate, that they would like to have the secretaries room in both offices and would need additional telephones. We then went down to the switch- board area where Mr. Stinson spoke with Mr. Johnson of tlie Telephone Company, who was in the switchinj^ room, and advised him of what would be needed. He then asked me if we could .(rot a sijjn to place over the office. I asked him for the wordinp and he said, it doesn't matter, just Governor Connally's Office. I picked up the phone in the PBX switchboard room, called Mr. Crall and asked him to get such a sign. He indicated that it would be impossible to get the plastic sign made that afternoon, but that he would order one and have it first thing Saturday morning and in the meantime, would make a small paper sign to go on the door. Mr. Stinson then returned up- stairs and I returned to the Administrative area and advised Mrs. Reddick that it would be necessary for her to move out of her offices and called Norris Uzee, asked him to set up a desk for Mrs. Reddick in the file area outside of Mr. Holcomb's office. I then went into Mr. Price's office where Mr. Maher and Mr, Holeomb, and Mr. Struwe, I believe, set down and started drinking a cup of tea. This being the first free moment I had, I called home to talk to my wife. She had not returned from the Trade Mart where she had been asked to serve with some other ladies of our church. I talked with my mother, who TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 166 TOP SECRET was quite upset, and found, at this point, I myself became really upset for the first time since the series of .events had be^n. j I then returned to the Surgery suite where I asked what facilities would be needed for Mrs. Connally, members of the family, and was advised tJ\at Mrs. Connally would like to stay as close to the Governor as possible as would Mr. Stinson and Mr, Read. I called Norris Uzce, who cam'e up, and directed him to set up as comfortable facilities as possible in the small isolation room off of tl\e recovery area where the Governor would be taken. I then stopped Mrs. Elizabeth V/right in the hall, told her to have tv.o rooms on 2-East set up for Mr. Read and Mr. Stinson and four rooms in tlie Staff Residence for other members of the family. I then returned to the Administrative Suite where for sometime I was tied up with telephone calls from local, national, international press. I then went back upstairs where I checked the room prepared for Mrs, Connally and talked with Mr. Stinson about bringing telephone - service into the room for her. The telephone man was called and came up shortly and it was decided to bring a telephone cable over the roof through Dr. Jenkins office and drill a snail hole through the wall. I contacted Mr. Davis, and advised him to -cooperate with the Telephone Company in any way. \ I then contacted Judge Merrell Connally and told him we would like to prepare dinner for the members of the family and asked him to deter- mine the number that we could serve. He tald me shortly that there would probably be 18 to 20 and I advised him that we would serve dinner to them at 5:45. I then contacted Mrs. Lively and asked her to prepare to serve 18 to 20 in Dining Room B at 5:45. I then returned TOP SECRET Peice Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 167 to the Administrative ol^ces wh'»y T'\^ involved in conversations with members of the press and members of the Administrative staff concerning the events of the day. Mrs. Elizabeth Wrifjht brcxight the keys to the four rooms in the St.cff Residence that, had been prepared for members of the Connally family. I then called Paul Crall and asked that the locks on the door to Carol Reddick's office be changed, taken off the master lock system and all keys given to Fayetta Gannon. I instructed Fayetta that when she got the keys to put individual tags on them and hold them for me,- I returned upstairs and asked Mrs. Katie Huber to please see that the family was taken down to the cafeteria at the appropriate time, to which she agreed. I then returned to the office for a short time before going with Mr. Price and smeone else, I don't remember who, to the cafeteria where we were served a sandwich. At this time I advised the cafeteria cashier that the police and highway patrolmen should not be charged for their meals and cleared this with Mr. Price. While we were eating, Mrs. Wright came down with Mrs. Iiuber and said that the family did not want toeat together^^ that half would come down and be served ^pd then the other half. I advised Mrs, Lively of this and the first Woup soon came down and were served in Dining Room B. After they had left and gone back up- rest stairs, Mrs. Connally , Judge Connally and the est of the family came do\m. I gave to Judge Connally at this time the keys to the foui*' rooms in the Staff Residence, A number of other minor events transpired duting the several hours described above which I do not remember too clearly and am unable to relate with any degree of certitude. I TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 — Continued 168 TOP SECRET " I remember leaving the liospital at approximately 9:30 that evening and returning home. On Saturday morning I arrived at the hospital a few ninutes before 7 a.m., after being called by Bill Burrus of the Dallas Times Herald at 6 a.m. and having him ask to meet me early to get some information on the Governor. I came into the hospital and did not find Bill Burrus but did find Bill Stinson who breakfasted with me that morning. During the course of the day Saturday, a number of things were under- taken to assist members of the Governor's staff, including additional telephone circuits, the designation and preparation of additional rooms on the second floor for the Governor's staff, including rooms 220, 222, 224, 223 and 225. Mr. Crall was advised what would be needed in the way of locks tosecure the various doors and was instructed to make the necessary changes. I checked with the Governor's staff and made sure that arrangements had been made to serve breakfast to Mrs. Connally and to any other members of the family who were present. Mr. Stinson took me with him into the bedside of Governor Connally, where Mrs. Connally had just confirmed to >iim that the President had been assassinated. The Governor appeared worn, but was talking and seemed quite lucid. During the course of the day and the evening, the majority of time was spent on the telephone and in person with various members of the press. V.'ith regard to late Friday night, I recall ^atj about 11 o'clock Mr. Dutton> calling me at home and stating that he had taken some members of the press down to the Emergency Room to photograph Trauma Room #1, I told him that this was permissible. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 44-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 13 169 TOP SECRET My other recollections of Saturday are rather hazy at this point, except that it was around 4 o'clock before I left the build- On Sunday, November 24th, I cliecked in tlic liospital at about 7:30, went to tlie Recovery Room to check the Governor's condition and arranc;encnts for Mrs. Connaily's breakfast. I found Mrs. Connally and the Governor hozh had not av/akcned. I went then to the cafeteria v.-here I had breakfast with >:r. Stinson -and his wife. Mr. Geilich joined us later. Folicwinj; breakfast in the cafeteria, Mr. Stinson asked me if I would lil;e to meet the Governor and took ne upstairs to the Recovery Roon where he introduced me to Governor Connally. While in the Recovery Rcor:i, Dr. Shires, Duke and Shaw came in and indicated that the Governor could set up in '. c . ir for a short time that day. I had Norris Uzee bring a comfortable chair over from the Olsan Room and place it in the Recovery Room at the Governor's bedside. Tlie doctors also indicated that Governor Connally could shave that morning and I brought up a razor and shaving cream from my desk, which were not used because the Governor indi- cated he prefei-red to wait until Mrs. Connally awakened and shave himself with an electric shaver. Tne balance of Sunday morning was spent with various members of the press and photographers who wished to make photographs of Trauma Room #1. Shortly before 11:30 Mr. Geilich received a telephone call from Mr. Struwe advising him that large crowds had i gathered at Hall both the City KXXX and t!ie County Courthouse in anticipation of the .Toil transfer of Lee Oswald from the City ^Ir.u to the County Jail. Mr. Struwp noted that there was a possibility of ap incident and suggested we might want to alert the Emergency Room. Mr. Geilich, following the telephone call, advised ne of the call, i/hich at that time I understood him to say was from Mr.^a^«n<^ag.Wi0Sginfelt it ns was indicated. Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 170 which I did. Mr. Geilich TOP SECRET jilich then proceeded to the th Enerpency Room to alert the Enerrency Room and asked then to delay any lunch hours until after the transfer had been effected. At approximately 11:30, I was standinr; in the corridor talking with one of the members of the Highway Patrol concerninp. the trans- fer of Oswald, discussinf: the .qreat amount of attendant publicity. At approximately 11:30, an Associated Press reporter dashed up to us in the hall and stated that Oswald had been shot and they are bringing him here. I noticed the telephone company service man for the hos Ltal standing in the Nursing Service Office. I immediately opened the door and told him to arrange for 25 straight lines to the press room immediately. Tlien proceeded directly to the Emergency Room where Oswald was just being brought in. by attendants. Oswald was brought into Major Surgery and taken to Trauma Room #2. U'e immediately established security, cut off Major Surgery from the rest of the Emergency Room. I advised emergency room personnel that all emergencies until furtiier notice would be handled in the other areas, no more to be brought to Major Surgery. I then asked Dr. Don Jackson and Miss Sally Lennon, who were not assisting with the Governor, to make a list of all those present in Trauma Room #1 with Mr. Oswald. I assisted in clearing Trauma Room #2 of all unnecessary personnel and then tried to remove the unnecessary personnel from the Major Surgeryarea outside the trauma ^ room. At this point, I noticed Bill Burrus of the Dallas Times Herald standing in the doorway of trauma room #1 and asked Bill if he would leave, which he appeared to do. TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No. 7 — Continued 171 15 I found out subsequcntljT^^tf^^^StfcCRfclroor.i >V 1 and then ducked behind a curtain in a booth in najor surgery where he was discovered later by Mr. Stinson of the Governor's staff and was asked to leave by police officers. Covers were placed over the windo\;s fror.i Radiolofjy and the registration desk on the path i.-hcre Oswald would be taken to major surjjcry. I also asked for police officers to cover the doorway from the registration desk in throu-^J-i pediatrics. Audrey Bell went to suTnnion the elevator down to the first floor and Dr, Shires cane out of trauma room 1)2 headed for sur^r^ery. I stopped hin lonp enough to get a report from h.im on the type of wound and the condition of Oswald for release to the press. Dr. Shires stated that Oswald had a pur.shot wound that entered on his left side and did not exit and that he was in extremely critical condition and would be taken xkb inmediaiely to surgery. Oswald was then brou^'jht out of tr?-uma room #2 and taken up to surgery. At this point a large number of police and members of the press asked how tliey could get upstairs, since they could not all fit in the emergency room elevator. U'ith the police in the lead, I lead then up the back steps by the Record Room and at the top of the steps directed another member of the hospital staff to take them up to the surgical suite. The press that was trailing behind peeled off asked them to at classroom 101 and jfemainGi there and I would have a statement for them shortly. I then proceeded to second floor surgical suite where I v.-as admitted after identifying myself, contacted Captain Ivill Fritz and asked hin if he wanted us to handle press releases on the condition of Oswald, or if he wanted to handle them himself. Captain Fritz said that he would let us handle them, to handle them as we would on any patient. I then proceeded to the Administrator's office whre Mr. Price and I typed out a very short release, which was TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 172 16 .f,iven to the press a fcmMTcsJiBGRlBliock. It said, "Dr. Tom S!;ires, Chief of Sur.qcry at Parkland Mcncrial Hospital ar.d Southwestern Medical School, advises ne that Lee Oswald is currently undergoing surgery for a single gunshot wound that entered on his left side and did not exit. The patient is in cxtreniely critical condition." Dr. Shires will nake a personal statenent when the surgery is completed. Tliis statenent was repeated probably six or seven times for various news media and I attempted to answer whatever questions I could the that were put to me. Mr. Geilich appeared at this time and offered to act as courier between surgery and the press room. At 1 p.m. Mr. Geilich brought down a second bulletin which I read to the assembled members of the press and it said "Lee Oswald has suffered a massive injury of abdomen tiwk with injuries to the major yesslcs. Bleeding has been controlled. A cardiac arrest has developed. The patient's left chest has been opened and cardiac massage begun." This bulletin was also read any number of times for the various members ' of the press and I attempted to explain v;:iat a cardiac arrest was and what cardiac massage was. At approximately 1:12 Mr. Geilich arrived again with a third bulletin, v/!\ich Iread to the group and which said "Lee Oswald is still alive and has been put on a pacemaker." This bulletin was also read several times and I gave as detailed an explanation as I had of what a pacemaker was and what purpose it served. At approxi- mately 1:25, Dr. Tom Shires with no written statement arrived at the press room, announced that Lee Oswald had been pronounced dead at 1:07 p.m. when he failed to respond to emergency efforts folbwing a cardiac arrest. Dr. Shires stated that death was due to massive bleeding caused by a gunshot wound. Dr. Shires then attempted to as answer a few questions and subsequently withdrew at ny request to prepare a \\rritten statement. At 2:20 p.m. Dr. Shires returned to tlie press room, v;here he read the following statement, "Insert long quote of Dr. Shires' here." TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 173 17. Following; the prepa*(*AI?ta3IKWJ^K fchires, I distributed xerox copies of a history of Parkland Hospital which had been re- quested by a number of reporters involved. After leaving the press room I set about attemptint: to determine who would be responsible for releasing a statement concerning, the autopsy and subsequent disposition of the body of Lee Oswald. I discussed the problem with Mr. Price and Nir. Holcomb. Mr. Price suggested that I contact Dr. Rose or Captain V'ill Fritz's office. I then went to the morgue, which was jjuarded by police officers with riot guns, and after being cleared by Dr. Sidney Stewart was taken into the necropsy suite where Dr. Rose was in the process of per- forming an autopsy on Lee Harvey Oswald. I discussed the following with Dr. Rose and with Captain Fat Daughcrty of the Dallas Police Department, who advised me that the press should be told that any further statements on Oswald would have to come from the Dallas Police Department. At this point I returned to the press room and made the announcement that upon the death of tlie " aid, the body had gone into tlie custcdyof the Dallas Police Department, and that a medico- legal autopsy report would have to be released by Captain Fritz's office. At this point most of the reporters left the liospital and returned to the Dallas City liall. There then followed a session with Mr. Price, Mr. Stinson of the Governor's office. Col. Homer Garrison of the Texas Dept. of Public Safety, Captain Crowder, Sargeant Robinson of the Texas Rangers, and Major Smith of the Department of Public Safety. The session concerned security measures to be taken for the Governor when he was moved from the Recovery Room to the patients floor. Mr. Price asked me to tour the hospital from top to bottom with this group of officials, which I did. It was decided tka after reviewing possible sites, to move Governor Connally into room 224, this door locked from the outside, TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7— Continued 174 TOP SECRET entry being possible only thrcunli room 222. In addition, rooms 220, 225, 225 would be reserved for KvjHefee members of the Governor's family. Several additional security measures were taken, which included the erection of a spotlight on fne roof outside of rooms 223 and 225, and tiic preparation of special window coverings fcr t]\e Governor's reom and the adjoining room. KKI2MK'2ii>4 l)il)L i:M^2^ K-MifK ^MFiKI Jsi5J4XJiS2«MJiS Mr. Price asked me to have Miss Gannon and Mr. Molconb prepare a list of departmental empjsyees to be used in connection with stricter security measures to be imposed upon the hospital. This list was to be fumislied to the State Ili;^hway Patrolmen who would be .qxiarding the various entrances to the hospital. KSJiiSX Visiting hours were suspended for Sunday afternoon and were to be limited on Sunday lipht. Late in the afternoon Miss Gannon and I left the building to attend church and upon our return were unable to gain admittance since we had no identification and the guards were posted on all doors, V/e were admitted following identification by Mrs. Huber. Before leaving for the night on Sunday night, the idea of asking the various radio stations to broadcast that normal clinic hours would be kept on Monday was discussed and Aand ended because of tlie possibility it might encourage an unusually e heavy attendance at clinic duo to the natural curiosity of people following the events of the last 72 hours. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 175 Peter N, Geilich TOP SECRET t\1iat-. follows is a personal account of my experiences during Che events chat took piece on Friday, Novoir.bcr 22, 1963, and Sunday, November 24, 1963 at Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas. About 11:30 A.M. on Friday 1 left Parkland Hospital to go to Woodlavm Hospital. After speaking briefly ;;i£h some of the personnel on the ground floor of Woodlawn I came up to my office on the second floor. The Associate Nursing Supervisor, Mrs. Biliic i-.rtincts, and I had talked „ ,.t the general situation at the hospital ;.nd ,:hcu left .: .r lunch. On the way o lunch we were stopped by Dr. C. ... Lel-iaistre, Keciical Director at ..'oodl i, and called into the Doctors' Dining Iloorti. Dr. LeMaistrj, Mrs. Mar. . .ots. Dr. Robert Shaw and I discussed briefly the rescheduling of broncho^^copy procedures at Woodlaxm which should prove to be more suitable for :he Thoracic Surgery Staff and for the Woodla\i7n personnel. Mrs. Martinets and I then 'proceeded into the dining room, and got our lunch trays. After I finished ray meal and v;as leaving the dining room, I heard v;hat I thought was my page. Hesitating a minute in order to listen for the second page to be sure that it was my name, I heard the operator say excitedly, • "Mr. Geilich, come here, come here." I thought this was certainly unusual and my first thought was that there was a fire in the hospital. I walked hurriedly ;;o the operator's cage down the hall. Mrs. R.uth McLaughlin, the operator :;aid the President had been shot. I remember saying, "I don't believe !>:." Ruth said "Go. to Mr. Speed's, he has a TV." I ran downstairs and G0V7I1 the hallway to the Maintenance Shops. As I entered the area several men, including Mr. Speed, were standing around the TV set and I heard an announcer say "Standby for more details, the President has been shot." I :/- TOP SECRE^ Peice Exhibit No. 8 176 s TOP SECRET rushed back upstairs into the dinin^^ roon and called to Mrs. Martinets, "It's happened, it's happened, the President has been shot." I then ran to my office, grabbed my coat, told the girl across the hall to lock the door and ran out to my car. Running' to my car, I was terribly concerned that for some reason it wouldn't start. I raced dovm liarry Kines lioulevard and pulled into Parkland after waving my Civil Defense Card at the Patrolmen guarding the entrance. I hurriedly parked my car and ran into the building to the Administrator' Office. The office was in an uproar, I only remember seeing the two secretaries each holding a phone. I asked, "'.Jliere are Chey." Someone said, ^ "In the Emergency Room." I went dovm the hall to the stairway. uTien I reached the bottom of the stairs, I made no attempt to go do\m. the emergency • corridor but went around through X-ray, pushing through a croxvd of hospital personnel at the door and came out into the ma^or surgery area of the Emergency Room. Looking to my right I saw uiany people and noticed Mrs. Kennedy stand- ing outside the door to Trauma Room #1. The only thing I remember about her was the blood that was on her face and her expression of shock. My reaction at that moment was "My God, it must really be bad." I then had to step out of the V7ay while several people wheeled the stretcher v/ith Governor John Connally on it by, obviously on the way to the Operating Room elevator. I got a good look at the Governor who looked to me as though he were dead. He had an ashen look. I thought he looked like a heart attack victim. I continued out the major surgery area and dovra the emergency corridor where I saw Mr. Jack Price, Hospital Administrator. He asked me to help clear these hallways. I TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No. 8— Continued 177 TOP SECRET -3- Curned around and identified myself to a Secret Service man, who could be recosnized by the small pin in his lapel, maroon with a white or silver dot. The Secret Service roan, a local policeman, and I began clearing the hallway in front of the registration deck and pushing people back to the Outpatient Department corridor, ^^/hen wc had cleared it that far, I kept going through the crowd and out to the Outpatient Department v;hore I told two or three employees to clear the clinics. I then ran back to the Administrator's Office on the first floor all the way being asked by photographers, reportors, and bystanders, "li/hat's going on, where can I get a telephone?" Upon reaching the Administrator's Office, Governor Connally's sister was being escorted in, quite upset, although not crying. My first thought was to take her to a more secluded area. For some reason I thought that she should be with the Kennedy family. I turned to John Willis, the Purchasing .vgent, and asked him where Mrs. Kennedy was at that time. Then someone said the Governor had been taken to the Operating Room and his family was in that area. I asked John Willis to go to the Operating Rooms to see if this were so. He took care of the Governor's sister after that. The telephones were all tied up. I know I talked with several radio stations, newspapers, wire services who called the Administrator's Office at that time. I don't remember exactly what I told these people except that "I don't knov; for sure, I don't know anything for sure." I did confirm that the President was at Parkland, as was the Governor of Texas. One of the first calls through to me was from my brother. Station Manager of WXPN, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He asked me if he could record our conversation. I remember telling him not to use my name. He said "Don't worry, if I told them I had a brother right there they wouldn' t believe me anyway." He was rather disappointec TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 8 — Continued 178 TOP SECRET -4- that I would not give him many details. In the confusion in the Administrator's Office I remember two young priests coming in, saying, "Mr. Steve Landregan called for us." Just before the priests appeared, Mr. Landregan, Assistant Administrator, had rushed into the Administrator's Office with someone I did not know and locked the door yel.ing, "Stay out of here." I told the priests to v;ait right outside that door. I learned later from Mr. Landregan that the other person with him was a Secret Service Agent and that they were calling O'Neal's Funeral Home for a casket. In the confusion that followed I do not know v;hat happened to the two young priests. I do remember a young colored man worming his way into the office wearing khaki pants and a dirty yellow sport shirt flashing a card say-- ing he was a preacher - he heard the President needed him. I don' t remember what I said to him, but I wheeled him around and shoved him back out the door. Standing in the doorway of the Administrator's Office with many people crowded there, was when I first heard the word that the President was dead. I remember going over to Mrs. Storey's desk and saying to her, "He's dead." Someone said "All press to classrooms 101-102." Several of them turned to me and asked, "Where is that." I started toward these classrooms and was caught up in a rush of newsmen and photographers. As soon as I was in the door of the classrooms, I stepped quickly to the right in order to get away from the wave of newsmen and photographers. On the teacher's platform stood one of President Kennedy's Associate Press Secretaries. Someone said his name was Malcorab Kilduff. On the blackboard someone had written the v;ord "Parkland." With cameras going I distinctly remember the press secretary saying, "The President is dead."' He then ansv/ered questions from the reporters in an extremely curt, professional manner. There was no doubting what he said and he never hesitated. I do not remember any of the other questions he was asked. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 8— Continued 179 TOP SECRET -5- '.Jhen he said the words, "The President is dead," a number of reporters at the door rushed out. My thought then was to the presidential press conferences where I hiive seen pictures of the reporters rushing out of the room to grab the nearest telephone. I then returned to the Administrator's Office and continued to answer telephones. Mr. Price end several others v/ere in his office behind locked doors. I believe Mr. Landregan must have been with the press.- I do remeniber that I stood there for quite av/hile answering the telephone and talking with whoever got in to us about what was going on. One call came through direct from Melbourne, Australia. The events of the next hour or so are quite confusing and I do not have a clear recollection of exactly v;hat happened. I believe that I spent most of the time on the I telephone. About three o'clock Mr. Price sent me to the Emergency Room to I talk to all the personnel that had been on duty at the time the President and the Governor were brought in. He asked me to get th'eir story and to be sure that they all agreed on what happened and at what time it happened. When I arrived in the Emergency Room, Mrs. Nelson was already talking to the employees and telling them of the international importance of what had taken place there, less than two hours ago. They were all very glum, many of them had blood splattered on their uniforms. I particularly noticed blood on the shoes of one of the nurses. I repeated to them much of v/hat Mrs. Nelson said, especially about not talking to anyone about their part in the events, inasmuch as it would be so easy for someone to misunderstand exactly what went on. We then agreed on times. I wrote a brief report on a scrap paper and carried it to Mr. Price. Mr. Price listened to it and told me to dictate it to one of the secretaries. Mrs. Faye Storey took ray dictation, \4hen she pulled it out of the typewriter, I remember thinking how short it is for such TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No. 8 —Continued 180 TOP SECRET -6- an important incident in history. I took it back to Mr. Price who requested two or three copies. In Mr. Price's Office at that time 1 remember only seeing him and Dr. Carter PanniLl, althouch others wore chore. Mr. Price asked me to take Mr. Ed Maher, Chairman, Board of Managers, back to his office downtown. I did this and returned immediately to the hospital being admitted only because the policemen guarding the entrance drivev/ay of the hospital recognized me from before. For the most part the rest of the day was spent assisting with numerous details with the Administrator or with Mr. Landregan and the press. The telephones rang constantly, a lot of time was spent talking with the various news media that called in for information and to confirm times and On Sunday, November 24, 1963, I got to the hospital about 7:30 f .li. Mr. Landregan was already there, in the dining room, talking with some members of the Governor's Staff. The morning was actually rather quiet, considering the excitement of the previous two days. About 10 minutes of 11:00 I was sitting at the secretary's desk in the Administrator's Office when Bob Struwe, Comptroller, called. Bob said that he had been watching on television the preparations for the transfer of Lee Harvey Osv;ald from the City Jail to the County Jail, He said that there were crov;ds of people held back by police with riot guns. He thought there might be some trouble and suggested I go do\ra to the Emergency Room and alert them to this possibility. I thought it a good idea and Mr. Landregan, walking into the Administrator's Office about that time, agreed. I walked dovTn to the Emergency Room and on the way met the hospital guard. I asked him to stay in the Emergency area, and to keep it as clear as possible. TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No. 8 —Continued 181 TOP SECRET -7- He mencioned someLhing about he didn't; usually work on Sunday and that he was the only guard around. When I Cold hira this was important, he agreed to stay. I then got Miss Stanrid^^c, Charjie Nurse in the Ewiorscncy Room, and told her about the impendinj transfer of Oswald and about the need to be on the alert. She said something about some of her personnel aoing to lunch but I believe said she would hold thevii in the jiiiieryency Room until she knew that Oswald had been safely transferred. I then walked up to the telephone operator's office on the main floor and told them of Osv/ald's transfer suggesting that they might have several calls if an incident developed. They remarked that the switchboard had been very quiet during the morning. One of the operators said that she v/ould delay her lunch hour until later, in order to be around in case soraething happened. I walked down to the Administrator's Office and glanced at my watch. I noted that it v;as about 11:25 A.M. and 1 was disappointed that I had missed Mrs. Connally's press confirence in classrooms 101 and 102. l\lhen I walked into the office, no one v;a3 there, but the phone Mias ringing. I picked it up and it was Doris Nelson, the Emergency Room Supervisor, who was calling from home. She said, ''This is Doris Nelson, Oswald has been shot." I don't remember what I said but another line was ringing at that time. I punched it and it v;as Dr. Pepper Jenkins, Chief of Anesthesiology. When he identified himself, I told him Oswald had been shot, he better get to the Emergency Room right av;ay. After speaking with Dr. Jenkins, I rushed dovm the hallway to the left toward the Nursing Office and into Governor Connally's Office and grabbed BiliStinson, his Administrative Assistant. I also grabbed for Major Smith of the Texas Rangers and said Oswald's been shot. Stinson reacted by giving TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 8 —Continued 182 TOP SECRET r.ic a rather firm backhanded punch to the stomach saying, "Be quiet, be quiet," as though he thought I was jolcing. I turned to Major Smith and said, "Can we have some of your men in the Emergency Room, we only have one guard on." P.c said, ''Of course." Stinson apologized for hitting me saying he didn't mean co do it and I said somethinij along the lines of "It's okay." With that, I raced to the Emergency Room and alerted the Triage Desk. I believe they already knev; Oswald had been shot and was coming. I scood at the Triage point while waiting for Osv/ald co arrive. I remember almost vjanting to go back to the major surgery area to see if everything was ready but realized that the Emergency Staff certainly knev; v/nat to do. I heard someone say not to put him in the same room where the President had been. Then Oswald's stretcher appeared preceded by two or three Dallas Policemen. With the appearance of Oswald's stretcher it looked as though a v;ave of humanity was coming through the door. As I look back on it, it seemed as though people were stacked from floor to ceiling with flash bulbs popping every- . where. I got a good look at Oswald who was dressed in black and whose face v;as ashen just as I had seen Governor Connally's two days ago. The police closed off the hallway very .well as the entire triage area was besieged by isporters and photographers. The phones were ringing and T picked them up. It was Radio Press International, New York and CBS from Washington, D.C. I told them what I had seen. IThen they asked me if it were Oswald, I said I don't know, I just knew a very seriously ill man has been brought in on a lov7 stretcher. I then x>7ent back into the major surgery area and glanced into the room where Osv;ald v/as; Trauma Room #2. I remember thinking at the time how there were' fewer people in the major surgery area than when the President and the Governor were there two days ago. There was still a good TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 8—Continued 183 TOP SECRET -9- deal of running back and forth. 1 sav; thaz the patient on the stretcher was setting whole blood by forced transfusion and that intravenous fluids had been scartod. 1 went back out to the desk and told the reporters the doctors were treating him. They wanted to knov; doccor's names but I did not "remember" v;ho was in the room. I do remember asking one of them, "Are you sure this is Oswald." i\ number said, "Yes, yes, of course it's Oswald." I went back into the iZnergency Area and grabbed one of the house staff men and said, "Wliat are his v;ounds." The doctor said it was a single gunshot wound just below the heart. I went out to the front and reported this to the photographers and reporters. Within minutes I v;ent back into the major surgery area and with surprise found that Oswald was not there, having been taicen to the Operating Rooms on the second floor. I went out to the waiting reporters and photographers and told them that the press room would bo on the same floor in the same place as it was tv/o days ago. I suggested they go back out the Emergency entrance and run around the front of the hospital and come in that way. 1 told them that no further news would be given out at this desk and there was no point in staying here. With that I headed back for the Adriiiniscrator' s Office. With Steve Landregan, I went to the press room with the first release that was read by' Steve to the gathered newsmen. I remember writing Parkland on the blackboard again because I had thought it was such a good idea when it was done two days earlier. I then whispered to Steve, "Do you want me to try to get to the Operat- ing Room and find out his condition." Steve said yes and I got to the second floor. vJhen I got to the door of the Operating Room I was stopped by State Highway Patrolmen guarding the ai'ea. Major Smith of the Texas Rangers was there and he recognized me and told the men it was all right to let me go through. I went down the operating room corridor and grabbed Dr. Don Seldin Price Exhibit No. 8 —CJontinued 184 TOP,$ECRET Chief of Medicina, by the arm and asked him to come with me. With Dr. Seldin I went to the door of the Operating Room #2 v/here a big man in a scrub suit asked us to please step back. I learned later that this "Big Man" was a Dallas Police Officer. Dr. Seldin spotted a young surgeon with scrub shoes on and told him to go into the room to ask Dr. Tom Shires, Chief of Surgery, what he wanted us to tell the press. The young surgeon came out a few minutes later with a description of the wound and the fact that Oswald had had a cardiac arrest and that open chest heart massage was now being attempted. VJith this information interpreted by Dr. Seldin, I ran back to Steve and gave him my note. He gave the announcement to the press and I wrote several x^ords on the board including "cardiac arrest", "Dr. Tom Shires, Chairman, Department of Surgery, Southwestern Medical School" and for some reason I wrote the word "spleen"; although I don't remember it being mentioned. One of the reporters asked Steve about Oswald's religion and whether or not he had made a confession. Steve said that the man was unconscious when he arrived and had not, to his knowledge, regained consciousness. I said, "I'll find out if he's got any religion", and left the room for the Administrator's Office where Mr. Price said there was nothing on the chart. Ifnile doing this I thought it was a stupid question. I went back and told the press that we didn't know anything about it, one way or another. Sceve then asked me to go back to the Operating Room to get more news. As 1 got there. Dr. Shires walked out v/ith a number of other surgeons and technicians and acknowledged that Oswald was dead. I remember seeing Dr. Malcom Perry and thinking that he certainly had gotten into everything that had 'happened in the last few days. I felt somewhat sorry for him because he had had such a trying time with the press in regard to the President's Price Exhibit No. 8 —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 14 185 TOP SECRET -II- dcaCh. I took Dr. Shires by the arm and said, "The press wants to talk to you. We have promised them that you would make a statement as soon as you came out of surgery." Dr. Shires asked someone to give him a clean white lab coat. Then he noticed that his scrub suit had a great deal of blood on it and he went into the doctors' locker room to change scrub suits. I don't believe he actually changed his suit but he did get another lab coat. It was Dr. Perry's lab coat that he v/ore. V7e then went out of the Operating Room, dovAi the steps and down the hallway. I pushed him up to the platform in the classroom and grabbed a piece of chalk. Wlien he began talking I v;rote the exact time of death on the board; 1:07 P.M. Steve Landregan then turned around and wrote the word "died" to the left of where I had written the time. Dr. Shires mentioned that 4 surgeons had worked on Oswald including himself. Dr. Perry, Dr. Robert McClelland and one whose name I cannot recall for sure; I believe it was Dr. Ronald Jones, Clinical Fellow in Surgery. As soon as Shires' press conference was over, Steve asked me if I would get Oswald's family to come, if they wanted to talk to the press. He whispered into my ear that Osv/ald's brother was in the Volunteer's Office. I calmly walked do\m the hall and went in. I was surprised the door was unlocked. There v;as a Secret Service man and Oswald's brother. I identified myself to the Secret Service man and told him that I was the only one other than Mr. Landregan that knew where ha was. I told him what the press wanted and asked if it were all right to ask Oswald's brother about a press conference. It v;as okay'ed and I went up to the brother and asked him point-blank if he wished to talk to the press, lie was sobbing and said, "No, No, not at this time." I remember stepping back inthe room and taking a good look at Oswald's brother. He was a slender man wearing grey unpressed pants, with the matching Price Exhibit No. 8 —Continued 186 TOP SECRET -12- ;ocL iyinfj on cliu cable. He uas vjcaring a white shirt but no tie. He seemed lilce a nice enough fellow. The Secret Service man was trying; to locate the :c3!: of the family by telephone ami through the Dallas Police radio system. 3bv;ald' s 'brother asked if he could see the body. I called Mr. Price for permission. He said, "Most certainly, let thcu have whatever we give any Dther patient's family. I told Osv/ald' s brother that we would do everything rfe could in order for him to see the body. I then checked with the Operating Room Supervisor, Audrey Eell, who said tuat it would not be a good idea to bring hira up to the 0, erating Roo;u to see the body, as the place was a mess. She said the body v/ould be taken to the Morgue v/ithin 10 to 15 minutes. Because Oswald's brotner vjas so upset, I asked the Secret Service man if it would be all right if I asked the Chaplain to come talk with him. The Secret Service man agreed and I went out bumping into Chaplain Pepper right next door. I v;hispered to Dr. Pepper that Oswald's brother was in the next office and that he was needed. Dr. Pepper came in to the room and started talking, quitciy wita Oswald's brother. About that time 3 or 4 other Secret Service men came into the room including Mr. Tom Kelly apparently their chief. There iwas some confusion as to where the rest of the family was at that time. It was decided to go ahead and take Oswald's brother dov/n to the Morgue area and to wait in the Purchasing Agent's Office for the rest of the family to arrive. We hoped they would come in by the freight entrance. , We waited in the receiving area v;ith3 or 4 Secret Service men and Bob Dutton, Administrative Assistant. Bob had come to that area v/hen I had called the front office and told them that Oswalc's family might be coming in through the freight area and to please send someone do^ra there to see that the door would be opened. In the few minutes that passed, Osv;ald's brother continued crying. I was TOP SECRET Pbice Exhibit No, 8—Ckmtinued 187 TOP SECRET -13- stsnding ct the end of the hallv/ay near the loading dock when the doors at the othei.- end opened and I saw a stretcher with a sheet covered body being uhi:aled in adniist policemen, some doctors, and reporters who with photographers were trying to force their v;ay in. The body was wheeled into the Morgue and iirjv.ediately a Dallas Policeman with a shotgun V7as stationed outside the door. I went up there and asked someone if v;e could bring Oswald's brother up to see the body. The police said chc family had already seen the body. Soon, the family came through the doors, including Oswald's mother v;ho was a rather short woman, about 5' 2", quite large and dressed in a white uniform. I thought that this might be a disguise to get her into the hospital area so she might not be recognized but learned later that she vjorks as a practical nurse. There was another man about 55 or 60 v;ith a black mustache, who I learned v;a3 a Governvnent interpreter. I saw Oswald's wife, a rather plain, but attractive young girl come through carrying their youngest child, only a month old. The mother was quite upset but the wife merely had a look of . shock about her. The look on her face was not unlike that on Mrs. Kennedy's face two days earlier. They v/ere all taken into the Purchasing Agent's Office with Chaplain Pepper and one Secret Service man. Dr. Pepper asked Mr. Du:ton to get something for the mother to drink as she had had nothing all day and was trying to nurse the baby. Button called the Emergency Room and soon Doris Nelson and another nurse appeared with a tray of coffee and cups. The Secret Service men then announced that they were leaving the case and that the Dallas Police Force v/ould take over the protection of Oswald's family, riowever, a few minutes later the Secret Service men huddled in the corner and announced that they had changed their minds and they would maintain the protection of the family themselves. Oswald's brother, who still had not TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 8—Continued 188 TOP SECRET -14- secn the body, asked Co do so. I went back to the Morgue and asked if this were possible. I was told that Dr. Earl Rose, County Medical Examiner, had aaid no one could sea the body again. I went back and reported this to the Secret Service men. They asked ue to please go back and talk v;ith Dr. Rose himself and to explain to Dr. Ro;=e that the brother had not seen the body. I agreed to do this and Dr. Rose v;as called to the door of the Morgue. He explained to me that under no circumstances could anyone else see the body as the legal requirements of family identification had already taken place and that he V7as not going to let anyone else in. I went back and told the Secret Service man \A\at Dr. Rose had said. He asked me to tell the brother this as he did not want the Secret Service to have to carry this news to the brother as they would have to be with the family Zor several days. I V7cnc in to tell the brother, but Chaplain Pepper was already telling him Dr. Roj^'s decision. A fev/ minutes later the brother appeared and seemed composed Jcr the first time that afternoon. The Secret Service men than had cars brought around to the back and led the family out the freight entrance into the cars. There were approximately 25 photographers at the entrance and they v;ere all yelling, ''Do you have any comments, do you have anything to say?" The Oswald group was hustled into the two cars. Tae photographers V7cro swarming all over the cars and one was almost run over as the cars pull^id out. Bob Dutton and I walked back into the Purchasing Agent's Office to straighten the furniture and turn out the lights, but found Chaplain Pepper and Chaplain Davis still there. A fev; minutes before the family had left, Ciiaplain Davis had come in saying that there was an urgent call for Chaplain Pepper. V;e asked if Chaplain Davis would see if the lights were turned out and Dutton and I returned to the front office. ;.'.:: !•- ' ..'..'-'^. Peter N. Guilich Administrative Assistant Dallas County Hospital DisT^^D November 26, 1963 ^^ r QFCRET «#h^l%hl Peicb Exhibit No. 8 —Ck>iitinued 189 . DA^LAb CGUNi- m^mm r^^o^^^ ^^ ^.^a^^'^i OFFICE MELIGR^:?^. /.iTrivlri^ ac c'ae hospital as soon cs oo-sx^^o on Friday, I vjC3 briefed by Pace on thv. curronc cevelooerr.ants The o_'.:ic,j -..'Ci crowded uii;h r.ev.'s mon and my first . cr.sh \.-cs 'CO Iioip ciroct ;;hc;-^ ;-,:;o. — . L-o- .hit tri.r.o thi press roor.-i xjith phonos .:; Wo^ sii: up :.nd cl'.cn o'^r oJJicc i.;: ._.-.'c.' .',. _..'.j>^ \-ith incoming calls. I stayed in j the office hclpins tahe care of ;__^ cll^- "..'cny of these was for the Governor's v.'ife and party. They '.vere frora ._o..l-, vjho were important enough that they could not be ignored and this r.etnt :cn\ii:.2, to the 2nd floor to deliver these r.--assc3as, example- -\'h it ; -- .• •— •Cc".".r.oly s 'Doctor, etc. ' In this confusion, ..;.; ..trhtd to be escorted to the e::.t\- .'' room area. I xvas able to get him v;it:-.i.. ^i^ht of Mr. Price and then I left t;... ia Sor.ieone had giv^n Western Union permission to set up. However,. had to ._,ineerin3 have an admini;, .•-ative approval and X gfce this approval. The rt of the afternoon was spect ans\.-_-ing telephones tnd delivering r.-.essages to the G. party. ..rnor' s Friday night • ter the administra ti. s;. _- :.-.e for the dcy . :.-ia telephones - •jereciite b_.-;y. The Governors office :.jtd with spoci- . n'j phones. . however, it x.as sonie time before i col;._- over to our oper..tors. Mr. Wright htd left sov.-.c- papers with me for the F.'i.i. t-.t t..t.y were picked up by their men, after I had jen their credentials. Tlje telephone raon nstvaiix installing ' extra phone:, on the 2nd floor for the Govev.ior. To accompli; h this task, it was necessary fct them to go out on the roof and they refused go out without an escort in f.^r of being shot, .••.rrangeinents were raade with i Highway patrol to escort them to the roof and stay v.-ith them. After takin;.: care ng of the telephone men, I was confronted by apv-. 15 photographer receesting permission to take pictures of Trauma room # 1, vjhere -/.e President died. ?er.-.-,i scion v/cs granted after checking room to be sure no patients v;er^ in the room , a.-.d ^.:hing for and receiving their promise that no pictures would bsi madt, except thos^ of trauma roo.-a S 1. This promise was kept and Mr. Holcomb informed that •..-.a ha itw these pictures on 0.3. 3. news that night. Sunday was a repeat of Friday, .r.i^.'i I heard the news of Oswald, I got to the hospital as soon as possible. A ^.;;..-. 1 helped v;ith the phone calls and directing , nevjsmcn. I was a runner betx-v.-^n ... ..olcomb's office and Steve in the press room. Mr. ria'.-.er was here again and I escorted him to the 2nd floor and left him there. The Secret Service brought the Oswald family to the hodpital and I met them at the loadir.^ eock and hid them in Hr. Willis's office av;ay from the press. This task was accompllL.icrd after talking my v;ay by two policeman V7ith shotguns. in the afternoon the Western Union again asked for permission to set up :.-.^ pre^t room. In addition to this he asked for permission to leave his mach > for several days. Ke stated that it was much troiible to take down and the: itek out to parkland. Permission cas given by me for this request. TOP SECRET f- / m^ Price Exhibit No. 9 190 TOP SECRET TOP SECRET TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 10—Continued 192 DALLAS COUW&PtSXSJEta DISTRICT OFFICE MEMORANDUM December 11, 1963 ir, C. J. Price Subject: Summary of My Activities from Friday Noon until Sunday Night ^.tyour request, I submit the following information which is as accurate as I can recall because of the rapid chain of events, and the strain under which they took place. I was in a large conference room in the Western Hills Inn which is located in Euless, Texas - some fifteen miles from Parkland - attending a workshop for the improvement of nursing care through learning of managerial skills. Since it was the last day of the workshop, the group was dismissed at 12:00 Noon with instructions to return by 12:45 P.M. Clinic, Mrs. Sara Miller, Nursing Supervisor of the Parkland Hospital Out -Patient and'l joined Mrs. Luella Owens for lunch in the main dining room of the inn. the workshop was scheduled to end at 1:45 P.M. I We discussed the fact that made the statement to both nurses that I felt guilty in not planning to return to the hospital, but instead was going shopping for clothes which my daughter had requested me to send her in college. group At 12:40 P.M. we returned to the conference room. The members of the sitting at the table next to my group were already seated. As I walked in, ..one of the nurses at this table said to me: "The President has been shot in the head, and taken to Parkland Hospital. You are the Director of Nurses there, aren't you?" I replied: "You don't really mean that?" She answered: "yes, I do. It's on television right now." I dashed to the lobby, and heard the television say that the President and the asked for, and was Governor had been shot. I then went to the Manager's office, line in the hospital. given permission to use his phone to call Mr. Wright's private me that Mr. Wright was in The Housekeeping Secretary answered the phone, and told the Emergency Room. She confirmed that the President and the Governor were there, but she had no information concerning their condition. I quickly found Mrs. Virginia Reid, an Assistant Director of Nursing Service at take me to the Parkland Hospital, told her what had happened, and asked her to progress to the hospital. We reported to our groups, and left immediately. Our entrance. There I stopped, hospital was speedy until we reached the Medical School he could help us identified myself, and asked a Medical School Security Guard if slowly up Harry Hmes get to the hospital. He said he could not. We continued Blvd. to directly in front of the hospital flag pole. Traffic stopped completely. We were listening attentively to the news reports which kept repeating that both facility. I was anxious to the Governor and the President were in our emergency get there to assist with Mrs. Kennedy and Mrs. Connally. I got out of the car, rank I walked over the campus to the nearest police officer with the hignest civil defense could find. He was a Captain. I identified myself, presented ray He said that he did not card and asked to be permitted to enter the hospital. standing at have the authority to let me enter, and directed me to a policeman the hospital entr- .. - on Harry Hines Blvd. I went to this policeman, and went enter. I explained that it through the same procedure. He said that I could not TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11 193 TOP SECRET Mr. C. J. Price -2- December 11, 1963 was imperative for me to get to my post in the hospital. After further discussion, he finally said: "Well, lady, I'll let you pass me, 'o-st you'll never get by the Secret Service Agents. I'd hate to see you ^itt shot." I entered the hospital at 1:25 P.M., and heard someone say: "They hj^ve announced that the President is dead." Without further interruption, I proceeded to my office where I put on a Icb coat, and my "8 South" identification badge. I proceeded to the triage desk in the Emergency Room where Miss Beck was standing, and asked her where Mrs. Kennedy was. I told her that I would go in to see what I could do to help Mrs. Nelson with her. (Mrs. Nelson later told me that she was praying that I would come to assist her with the situation, but she did not call for me thinking that I was in Euless. She has been instructed always to call for me whether or not I am in town.) Miss Beck told me that she had tried to get by the Secret Service Agents to assist Mrs. Nelson with Mrs. Kennedy, but was told very firmly by the agents guarding the door that she could not go in. He said: "Mrs. Nelson will call you if you are needed. Otherwise, you will stay out." I stated that I would try to get in. Both Miss Beck and Mr. Holcomb suggested that it might be best if I not try. Miss Beck said that she would hate to see me get hit in the head. She also told me that the casket had been brought in, and the body was being prepared. About that time, Mr. Landregan approached me accompanied by a Catholic Father. He introduced us, and asked that I take him to Mrs. Connally. I took the Father to the Emergency elevator where an Otis elevator man was operating it, and re- quested that we be taken to the second floor. He asked if we could wait a minute as he was holding the elevator to take some blood to the Governor. The Father said something like: "Kind Father, yes, we'll do anything for the Governor." Be- cause the messenger with the blood was not immediately forth coming, Mr, Poll took us to the Operating Room where I saw Miss Myrtie Drake, and asked her to locate Miss Bell for me. Miss Bell came up to me very shortly. I asked her how the Governor was. She told me that Dr. Shaw was in surgery with him, and that "everything is under control." She took us to Dr. Jenkins' office and introduced me to Mrs. Connally and her party. I expressed my concern, and asked if there was anything I could do for her. She was well poised, and said: "No, thank you. Everyone has been wonderful. Just take care of my b'oy in there, and I will be fine." I assured her we would do everything possible. She said she realized that, and thanked me. I then intro- duced her to the Chaplain, and left the room to talk with Miss Bell. En route, I heard one of the highway patrolmen say that the late President's plane had just taken off for Washington, and that Mr. Johnson had been sworn into office. Miss Bell asked for permission to request Mrs, Lively to send up a tray with coffee and "tidbits" for the party. This was granted, and she called immediately. I returned to Mrs, Connally who asked how Mrs, Kennedy was, I told her that she was in flight to Washin;;ton, Mrs. Connally expressed her sympathy. The room was filling rapidly with people. Shortly, a dark -haired man in a scrub suit - later identified as Mr, Stenson - came into the room, knelt down by Mrs, Connally 's chair, and explained to her the progress of the surgery. He started by ling her that everything was going to be alright. Then he identified Dr. Shaw to her, told her that no vital blood vessels had been injured, described in detail the path of the bullet, and told her exactly what the doctors had done up to this TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11 —Continued 194 TOP SECRET :. C. J. Price December 11, 1963 Mrs. point They were in the process of debriding the wound in the lung. Steni;on patted Connaily smiled, and said: "Thank God he's alright." Mr. the effect that "You're a brick." I her shoulder, and said something to courage." Mr. smiled at her, and said: "You certainly are. I admire your Stenson left the room to follow the surgical procedures. I remai-;d in the room. Many people were coming and going. I listened to She was under good con- Mrs. Connaily describe the incident as she saw it. Shortly after she finished, I excused myself to go check with Miss trol. and arrangements Bell 'concerning Recovery Room arrangements for the Governor, it was decided to put for his nursing care. To provide the maximum safety, him in the back of the Recovery Room, and to set up the block room for Mrs. Connaily and those who were with her. door. He had someone with him I met Mr. Landregan outside the Recovery Room who wished to see Mrs. Connaily, and asked me to take him to her. I do not recall whether it was Father Huber and Chaplain Pepper or her own minister. I took him in. Other people arrived. who were being called, There was discussion concerning members of the family the highway patrol- how and by what method they would arrive. At this point, Patrolman Nolan expressed man thought this party was en route by private plane. arrangements for the concern over how they could contact the plane, and make call the control security of the party when it landed. I suggested that he the plane to give it tower in Love Field as they would be in radio contact with clearance to land there. He left thereon. Nolan was stationed, and went tc I left the secretaries' office where Patrolman the Emergency Room shortly after 2:00 P.M. I found Mrs. Nelson in her office. She told me that she and Mr. Price had just finished discussing the recent event. I asked her to go over them with me. She indicated a cup of coffee on her desk, and suggested that I do and said she got it for Mr. Price who did not drink it, statement previously so. we discussed what had happened. Mrs. Nelson made the quoted in this narrative, and reassured me that she had counselled her staff on the day with anyone, andsaid the necessity for them not to discuss the events of she felt sure they would cooperate completely. She also told me that Mr Wright circumstances under which it was had the late President's watch, and related the on a job well done, and given to him. I complimented Mrs. Nelson, and her staff, returned to the Recovery Room. was in the corridor by the Recovery I had not yet seen Mr. Price. Mr. Landregan could find Mr. Price. Room talking to the security people. I asked him where I down, and asked him for per- He said that he thought he was in his office. I went use Recovery Room mission to set up the Block Room for Mrs. Connaily, and to blanket permission to do nurses to special the Governor. He told me that I had of the situations as they arose. whatever I believed was best to meet the needs TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11— Continued 195 TOP SECRET Mr. C. J. Price -4-. December 11, 1963 I returned to m/ office, talked to Mr. Uzee by phone, and explained what we needed. He said he would get to work on it immediately. While I was in my office, someone - I think it was Miss Beck - gave me a tele- phoned message from Joan Crawford to the First Lady. She asked if she could be of any assistance, and requested that she be notified if the message was delivered in person in the hospital. I knew that :-irs. Kennedy was gone, and went to the official press room to see if they had a straight line by which they could advise Mrs. Kennedy of the message. A lady in the press office told me that they could not relay the message, and suggested that I relay it in a personal note. I returned to ny office, dictated a letter to Mrs. Kennedy, enclosed the note as I had received it, and relayed ray condolences. It was relayed immediately. I returned to the Recovery Room, and talked with Miss Bell concerning how to handle the increasing crowd gathering in the hall. I saw a group of medical students standing outside of the work room. She said she had already chased one group out. Together we went to Dr. Mc Celland and explained the problem. The medical students - I distinctly recall one female and one male - left without being told to leave because they overheard our conversation as we in- tended them to do. Miss Bell and I went into the work room where we had a cup of coffee and a cigarette. She said someone had asked her if the President's death certificate had been properly signed. This concerned me, and I left the work room. Dr. Clark was in the corridor. I asked him if the certificate was signed. He assured me that it was, I returned to check on Mrs. Connally's group. Dr. Shaw had completed his part of the surgery, and was ready to talk with her. They conferred in the Anes- thesiology Conference Room. Wr.ile this was taking place,I returned to the Nursing Service Office to dis- cuss staffing with the supervisors. Miss Beck had called a meeting in her office for 3:30 P.M. at which time the nurses would volunteer to cover the posi- tions we decided upon. I felt it imperative to have three supervisors on as long as the Governor was in the Recovery Room; one to coordinate with the Governor, his nurse and the Connally family, and to assist the security guards in their* control in the Recovery Room; one to remain in the Nursing Service Office and coordinate activities there; and one to circulate through the entire house in order to insure good care for our other patients. I decided to stay on duty un- til the Governor and his family were settled and their needs met. Miss Beck volunteered to work on Friday night. Having worked out our staffing- pattern, I returned to the second floor where many people continued to gather. I --.okmany people in to see Mrs. Connally from time to time. They included the family physician, the family minister. Judge Lou Sterrick, District Attorney Henry Wade, Judge Merrill Connally, and his wife, the Governor's mother and sister, his son, and Mrs. Connally's sister. Other family members arrived totalling twenty in all. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11 — Continued 196 TOP SECRET Mr. C. J. Price -5- December 11, 1963 Miss Bell and I were coordinating closely with the operating surgeons, the family, the security men and the Recovery Room and Block Room which House- keeping personnel and Nursing Service supervisors were setting up. We pro- vided a bed, a couch, a coffee table, two chairs, and an end table, two lamps, many towels, wash cloths and ash trays, and the necessary bed linen. Someone sent red roses which were placed on the coffee table. White paper was placed over the glass on the window of the door to the Recovery Room. The area in the Recovery Room into which the Block Room opens was readied for the Governor. I inspected all these very carefully. Recovery Room nurses were assigned to special the Governor through Monday. Security guards were posted by the security people. All arrangements were in order, and the Governor was moved without incident to the Recovery Room where Mrs. Curtiss was on duty to special him. With this situation under control, we turned our attention to accommodations for the Connally family. I saw Mr. Landregan in the Recovery Room, and asked him what plans were for food for the party. He said he would take care of the feeding arrangements if I would arrange for three sleeping rooms in the staff residence for the immediate family, and a room each for Mrs. Connally and her sister on 2 East. I left the Recovery Room at that time to make these arrange- ments, and went to 2 East to see what the situation was there in terms of staff and patients. The census was' 23, and a colored L.V.N, was in charge. I noted two empty rooms - # 220 and # 225 - and went to the Nursing Service' Office to find Mrs. Fitzgerald who was working as the Second Floor Supervisor that night, Mrs. Fitzgerald was in the Nursing Service Office. I explained the problem, and she immediately moved into action to provide the best possible accommodations. Patients were moved, and our best furniture was used to equip the rooms. While Mrs. Fitzgerald was in the process of doing this, I called the Housemother in charge in the staff residence, and told her of my needs. I alerted her to the fact that I would need the keys to these rooms. Mr. Wright was in my office at the time. As it was getting dusky outside, he agreed to go to the staff residence for the keys. While Mr. Wright was gone, I heard a page for him, answered it in his absence, and found that Mr. Price was trying to get in touch with him. I relayed the message to him, and he returned to the hospital immediately, a number of student I then went to the Staff Residence where the Housemother and nurses were preparing the rooms. I vetoed one because of the condition of the tile flooring, and selected another. The Housemother had already given Robert, the Housekeeping Supervisor, the keys to the rooms she had selected, I procured the key the new room, checked to see that all was well, and returned to ny to office. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11— Continued 197 TOP SECRET Mr. C. J. Price -6- December 11, 1963 I found Robert on the second floor with the keys, obtained them, and went to report to Mr. Landregan, I really don't remember who informed who of the fact that there were two factions in the Connally party, and that one group would eat separately from the other. It was agreed that I would take the first group down, and from the "high sign" from Mr, Landregan, I would take my group up in one traffic pattern, and Mrs. Huber would bring hers containing Mrs. Connally, her sister, and the Governor's brother down in another elevator. I alerted Mrs. Huber to the complete details. She was ready when notified to go. I was notified by Mrs. Lively when the first party was finished. I waited in my office for this information. As soon as I got the infor- mation, I notified Mrs. Huber. For some reason, both groups met on the second floor. After a short delay, the second group went into Dining Room B for dinner, and the second group reconvened in the lobby. This was the last time I saw or had contact with group one except when Mr. Connally's sister realized she had lost her hat, asked me about it, and I remembered it was in the Governor's office. This was Sunday, I think. I stayed in my office while we were trying to get everyone fed. I noticed a guard outside my window. I also noticed one outside of ray office on the "Personnel Entrance" side. There were many police and rangers between my office and the Administrator's Office. I recall feeling very secure because of this. After we had gotten the Governor's family fed, and arrangements for their immediate accommodations arranged - this included hotel accommodations too - I spoke to Mr, Price briefly about what I had done, and he said again: "Fine, Use your best judment to meet the needs of the situation." After talking with him, I proceeded again to the Recovery Room where I first checked on the Governor. His private duty nurse, Mrs. Curtiss, assured me that his vital signs, urinary output, and chest drainage were good. I checked them for myself. They were: The Governor's color was poor at the time, but good for this particular situation. Mr. Wright had somewhere down the line asked me if I could ascertain the path of the bullet - or bullets - determine the path, and find out where the instrument of injury actually was. When I checked on the Governor at this time. Dr. Tom Shires, Professor of Surgery, was in attendance. I asked him to describe the path of the bullet - or bullets - and to tell me what in the way of bullets had been found. I rec:.! . .- ae was out of town when this happened, and was flown in by special Air Force jet. From his conversation, he evidently scrubbed in on part of the surgery. This I cannot verify, but when I talked with him, he was in scrub clothing, and from his conversation to me, I judged that he was in on part of the surgery. He described the path of the bullet - from shoulder through arm to thigh - and said that the only fragment removed was by Dr. Gregory in the tiij.g'h. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11— Continued 198 TOP SECRET X C. J. Price -7- December 11, 1963 asked him to whom this fragment was given, and he said: "To Officer •nowland (spelling' questionable) of the Dallas City Police Department." : a-: not certain, but I think he was referring to Ranger Nolan of the [ichv7ay Patrol. I reported this to the security officer, and did not ;Gricern myself further until the question was raised: "Was Dr. Shires ;hi final authority?" I called Dr. Duke, the resident who was present .'hcn I talked with Dr, Shires. He had heard our conversation, and had isoisted Dr. Shires with his part of the surgery. The two of us con- ferred, and together agreed to release to Mro. Wright the information that, iccording to Dr. Shires, only one bullet was involved in Governor Connally's Injury, and that the fragment of this bullet which was removed by Dr. Gregory from the wrist was in the possession of Ranger Nolan - who Dr. Shires, it the time of our conversation, had described as a city policeman. I reported this to Mr. Wright, then checked with Mrs. Huber on thd^vernor's condition, and on Mrs. Connally's comfort, and instructed the supervisor to be sure that any members of the Connally family who were remaining overnight be accompanied by the coordinating supervisor to their in the staff residence quarters through the tunnel. I then inspected the accommodations on 2 East. was in They appeared to be the best that we could provide, and everything order there. to think about eating. I had not yet had either the time nor the inclination It was now about 10:45 P.M. I reported to Mr. Price that I considered Nursing Service to be under good control, and brought to his attention that we had scheduled a Negro nurse, Eleanor Molden, R.N., to attend the Governor the she is next afternoon, and advised that I thought it would be alright because a competent nurse, has a pleasing personality, a good personal appearance, and a high degree of integrity. We agreed that under these circumstances she would be acceptable, I returned to my office, checked on the details of general staffing, and tried to coordinate the whole into one cooperative entity. It was interesting to note that not one single employee who was scheduled for duty that evening failed to instructed report for duty. I talked with the supervisor left in charge, and Service her to call me if I were needed. I noticed at that time the Nursing . difficult for me to Office was secured in all directions. In fact, it had been get through the crowd in the hallway outside. I left the hospital around 11:00 P.M. Miss Beck reported on duty at 11:45 P.M. She called me only once - at 12:30 A.M. Director of Saturday I was off duty. Mrs. Carolyn Rogers was the Assistant and she told Nursing Service in charge that day. I called her around 10:30 A.M., Patrol Headquarters me that everything was going well, that the State Highway clerk's office had had been set uo in the Payroll Clerk's office, and that the night been moved in with '" -^ Beck. I had a nun^er of calls from the evening and supervisors cor.- -g problems which were readily solved. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11— Continued 199 TOP SECRET Mr. C. J. Price -8- December 11, 1963 Sunday morning my husband, my sister and I went to church. By mutual agreement we decided not to turn on the radio. I suggested that we drop by the hospital after church to see how things were. Later en route to the hospital, we discussed the sermon and a prayer given by the assistant minister. He asked the Lord's blessings for the relatives of the people involved. When he came to Mr. Lee Oswald, he asked: "Thy will,, not ours, be done." He then asked us to pray for Mr. Oswald, and said: "Thy will be done, not ours." I remember looking at my watch be- cause I was uneasy. It was 11:25 A.M., November 24, 1963. Then Mr. Jones asked God to deal with Mr, Oswald as he saw fit. He had already dealt. As we were leaving church, I suggested that we go straight to the hospital, and not stop by the house first. So we went simply to check on how things were. we got there, a caldron of policemen surrounded the place. We were I-/hen incensed that there were so many people trying to get a look at the hospital, and commented on the fact. We also commented on this fact to the policemen to whom we identified ourselves. They agreed, but made no further statement. The three of us - one of whom had no real connection with the hospital, and wouldn't have been there had she really knoxm what was going on - went in without being further questioned. Mary Nell and I went into the Nursing Service Office. Mr. Wright wenC-about his business. The two of us, after I identified myself and Mary Nell to the increased guards, proceeded to the assignment desk which Miss Madalaine Magin was manning. Mrs. Rogers, Supervisor in charge, was at the receptionist desk, and obviously quite busy. So I spoke to Miss Magin, and innocently asked: "How are things?". She looked at me as if I had suddenly lost my mind, and repeated three times: "You reaiify don't know?" i assured her that I did not, and told her we'd just come in to make a routine check. She seemed to be aghast, and told me that Mr, Oswald had been critically shot, and was in surgery. I then said: "Oh, my God, not him too?" This was my first information about this incident. We had left our car radio off on purpose. Without removing my hat or donning my lab coat, but remembering to put on ray name tag in order to get by the increased security men, I proceeded immediately to the Recovery Room, I knew we would have to make some kind of arrangements for Mr, Oswald's recovery care if he survived, I contacted Miss Bell, who had heard the newscast and had gotten to the hospital before the patient arrived, to determine Mr, Oswald's condition and progress in surgery. She told me the extent of his injuries. We discussed the possibilities of his survival as she saw it. The odds were not good. I went immediately to Mr. Price's office, appraised him of the situation, and he told me to use ray judgment, and to do what I thought was to the best interest of all concerned in setting up recovery accommodations for Mr. Oswald. I re- turned to the Operating Room where I told Mrs. Fitzgerald to check on 2 West to see what was available there. Thinking that the man's condition was such that he might need to be rushed back to surgery momentarily, but realizing also that he could not be on the same unit as the Governor, I expressed my feelings to Mrs. Fitzgerald. Mr, Stenson heard me tell Mrs, Fitzgerald, and did not agree, TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11 —Continued 200 TOP SECRET Mr. C. J. Price -9- December 11, 1963 . He was very unhappy that such an idea would even enter my mind, I suggested that we discuss the problem with Colonel Homer Garrison, and Major Smith. I told them what I had done, explained my thinking on the necessity of keeping Mr. Oswald alive if possible. Again, Mr. Stenson took violent issue with this suggestion. He, understandably, was quite spastic at this point. I asked the three of them to go with me to Mr. Price's office, and reassured them that everyone in the Hospital District wanted to do everything they possibly could for Governor Connally's pro- tection. The four of us entered Mr. Price's office where I sat in a chair beside him, and the others sat on the other side of the desk. I told Mr, Price what I was trying to do, and Mr. Stenson - obviously angry at me - told him what he was trying to do. Somewhere he'd gotten the idea that someone had suggested that the Governor be moved from the Recovery Room, Such a suggestion had never been made to my knowledge. Mr, Stenson again said that the Governor's safety was his primary concern. He stated that he did not care what happened to the Oswalds. He was here to protect the Governor, and would do it with his life's blood, Mr. Price said very firmly: "Mr. Stenson, that will not be necessary", and— went on to explain that he understood the seriousness of the situation, ann we would cooperate in every way possible. Mr, Stenson asked if Mr, Price would promise to order the Governor to remain in the Recovery Room. The Ad- ministrator said: "I will go one step further. I will promise you that the Governor will not leave that room until he himself says he is ready to leave," Mr, Price further said that in the meantime he had already authorized me to make whatever arrangements for Mr, Oswald's care that I felt necessary. Mr. Stenson said he could not expec t more complete cooperation. The four of us then left the office. Colonel Garrison, Major Smith and I paused in the hallway to discuss possibilities for Mr. Oswald. The Colonel asked me what was on the third floor of the hospital. I explained that the third and fourth floors were primarily for obstetrical and gynocological patients, and suggested that Five South, a surgical unit, might be a good location. We went to Five South where I asked them to wait in the treat- ment room while I got the Head Nurse, Miss Stravapolous. After much consultation, we decided to establish the sunporch on Five South as the area for Mr. Oswald, and to release 540 which the Head Nurse said she had been instructed by "someone" to hold as a decoy room, I gave Miss Stravapolous detailed instructions, and she proceeded according to those instructions. Colonel Garrison said that he wanted all visitors to leave the entire fifth floor, and that no one except authorized personnel and patients could remain on the units. I gave these instructions to the floor control clerk, and explained to the visitors that it would be necessary for them to leave. Almost immediately the security men lifted these restrictions because the phone rang while we were still at the control clerk's desk, and Miss Bell told me that Lee Oswald had ex- pired even thoush they had made every effort to save him. "There was just too much damage", she said. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11 —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 15 201 TOP SECRET Mr. C. J. Price .. -10- December 11, 1963 I then rescinded the orders to the Head Nurse, and the Control Clerk, and we left the area. After that, nothing really significant happened. I returned to the Operating Room, had a cup of coffee and a cigarette with Miss Bell - who related what had happened to her that day - and told me how proud she was of her staff be- cause they had been able to set up so quickly, and were fully prepared when the patient arrived, I returned to iny office, took off my hat and jacket, and put on my lab coat. Then I returned to the Recovery Room, went in to see the Governor, introduced myself, and asked how he was feeling. He said his chest hurt some, and that he had difficulty coughing, but that his arm was his biggest concern because it was painful, and the cast was awkward. We talked a little more, and I excused myself to go check on Mrs. Connally. Her son was with her. She introduced us, and he went shortly thereafter to see his father, Mrs. Connally expressed her happiness over the Governor's progress, and her appreciation for all that was being done for them, I then went in to talk with Miss Palmer who was specialling the Governor, She gave me a complete report of his progress, and was pleased that he was doing so well. From there, I went to the Emergency Room, and talked with Mrs. Nelson who re- ported to me what had happened there. She said that things were relatively quiet. Mrs, Oswald, her children, and mother-in-law had come in and gone, I returned to my office where I engaged in routine work until I left at approxi mately 5:30 P.M. on November 24, 1963, Elizabeth L. Wright, Director Nursing Service ELWrbwh TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 11 —Continued 202 DALLAS COUNTY I^rn-" DISTRICT OFFICE MEMORANDUM •g— Mrs. Elizabeth L. Wright, Director Nursing Service Subject: On Friday, November 22, 1963, I was assigned to work in the Minor Medicine and Surgery area of the Emergency Room. At approximately 12:30 P, M., I was crossing the Major Surgery area to collect some syringes when the triage nurse called over the intercom for carts. I took the nearest cart and together with Joe Richards the orderly, ran dc-zn the hall to the Emergency Room entrance. I was the first person to arrive on he scene with - a cart and saw that a large black car was drawn up and was surrounaed by a crowd of people. To the rear of the car I saw Mrs. Kennedy and realized that the President was lying along the seat with his head upon her knee, she was bending over him. Governor Connally was in the jump seat of the car and had to be removed from the car before the President could be placed on a cart.. I went to the left side of the car to help to lift the President. He was placed on a cart and 1 ran with several men whom I took to be Secret Service Agents to the Emergency Room. Mrs. Kennedy ran along side the cart holding on to the President. On entering the Energency Room we rushed the President into Trauma Room No. I. Miss Kinchcliff had hung some bottles of intravenous fluids and I got a venesection tray with which one of the doctors started intravenous fluids in each leg. Miss Hinchcliff and myself removed the President's clothes and they were placed on a shelf in the corner of the room. At this point two of the doctors wished to start fluids in the President's left arm, upon which he was wearing a gold watch with a black leather strap. As this was about to fall off I removed it and placed it in my pocket for safe keeping. After this I assisted the doctors with suction to the tracheostomy and to the chest tubes. When Miss Hinchcliff returned with the first unit of blood, I applied the pump to the bag. A short time after this the doctors ordered more blood and I ran to the blood bank and collected two units of uncrossmatched blood. I returned to the Emergency Room and upon entering Trauma Room I, I was told that the President was dead. After the doctors had left, Mrs. Kennedy entered the room with a priest who per- formed the last rites. Miss Hinchcliff and myself prepared the body by removing the remaining clothes, placing them with the others which Miss Hinchcliff gave to a Security Officer. We' then washed the blood from the President's face and body and covered him with a sheet. During this time we were assisted by David Sanders, the orderly, who cleaned the floor and removed dirty instruments, etc. Af-:ar a short while the casket arrived in which we were to' place the President's body. Mrs. Kennedy entered the room and removed a gold ring from her f 1 .ger and placed it upon the.. ring finger of the President's left hand. When Mrs. Kennedy had left we TOP SECIiUI^ Price Exhibit No. 12 203 TOP SECRET placed llic Prf-'i;ii]L'nt 'b body on a plastic uhcol- in tlic casket. all luft the room and Mrs. Kennedy entered alone and stayed with the body until Wi.' it wai; removed a short time later. Ab the body was being removed, I remembered that I still had the President's gold watch in my pocket. I ran out to the Triage desk and there I saw Mr. Wright. I i;avc him the gold watch and explained how I had come by it. Oa returning to the Major Surgery area I saw Mrs. Nelson and told her about the watch iilao. After cleaninjj the cart and the room a little better, I returned to the Minor Medical and Surgery area and continued to work there until I was relieved dL approximately 3:00 P. M. At about 3:45 P. M. I left the hospital. After tl)e President's body had been removed Mrs. Nelson called the Staff into the office and asked everyone to refrain from talking about what had happened, and to refer everyone to the Administrator. On IJ.MLurday November 23, 1963, Mrs. D. Neluon called me on the telephone and told me that yhe had spoke to a i-eporter from the London Observer and had told her that I was from England. Mrs. Nelson told me that the reporter would try and get in touch with me. A little later in the mornin[; the reporter came to llie Emergency Room to speak to me. Aa Mrs. Nelson had already spoken to her, I wrongly assumed that she had been cleared by Administration, tlierefore, I did not call them. The reporter was accompanied by a man who I assume was from the same paper. The reporter asked me if I was from England, I confirmed this fact and told her how long I had been here, and where I came from In England. She a:;ked mu to tell her what had happened the day before. I told her that we had brouiiht llio President from the car on carts, which had been requested over the inter- com, .iiid liad taken the President into Trauma Room I, and Governor Connally into Room 11, and that WQ had assisted the doctors. She asked if I had seen Mrs. Kennedy. I said that I recognized her when 1 saw her in the car. She also asked If I had noticed how Mrs. Kennedy had behaved, I told her that I had boon too busy to notice anything. She asked me about the wounds the President had and I told her that I was not at liberty to say anything about them. Slietold mo that reporters would probably be callin;:; on my parents in England. After tliis wotalked about the difference in way of life between England and America. They aaked mo if I enjoyed living in America and how lon[^ I intended tojstay. I told them that I had a contract with Parkland until August 1964, and after that I would perhaps btay another year or 18 months in America. That night when I arrived Iioiiil- I placed u call to my parents in England, and spoke to them for approximately 3 minutes. I told them not to worry and they were to ex- pect a reporter calling. Thoy told me that they had already been called several times by reporters, but that they had only confirmed that I- was working at Parkland. I told my parents that I had been on duty and with the President when he died. After iliis we talked about private matterii. On Sunday, November 24, I was not on duty. od TOP SECRET ^^^'^^ Bowron IMucK KxiiiuiT No. 112— Continued iOI TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES CI-' SALLY UiMOK NOV 22, 1963, NOV 23, 1963, NOV 24, 1963 I, Solly Lennon, was not on duty i-'riday, Nov 22, 1963. Saturday, Nov 23, 1963, I camo on duty at 8.00 and was assicncd to O.D.Gyn area of the lirnergcncy Room. I was not quostionod by anyone auring my eight houra of duty. I v;as aware of the presence of the oress, police and secret service men. I did direct several pressmen to the press room on the first floor of the hospital while I i^as relieving the triage nurse for lunch. Sunday, Nov . 24, 1963, I arrived on duty at 8.00 and once a^ain was assigned to the O.D.Gyn. area of the Emergency Itoom. Around 11.00 the head nurse informed me of llr. Lee Harvy Oswalds 's transfer from the city jail to the county jail, and there were massive crowds of people gathered around the Jail. ^U'i received hQr information from one of the hospital administrators. Shortly thereafter, the news spread through the Emergency iioom of the shooting of ilr Osv^ald. I immediately enttred the Kajor Surgery area to see if I could bo of any assistance. Trauma room iio 2 was being prepared for the patient. Someone suggested a cart be taken to the ambulance entrance as no one was sure how iir Osv/ald wouid arrive. An orderly and I took a cart to the emergency entrance, where police and newsmen v;ere gathering. I assisted clearing the emergency entrance and tried to keep the gathering crowd from entering the hospital. Mr Oswald arrived in an ambulance. I returned to the i-.ajor Surgery area of the Emergency hoom. I v.'as asked to stand by the door betv/ecn the O.B.Gyn and surgery area v/ith a city police officer to identify people entering the major surgery area. Kr Landrcgan called me to enter trauma room No 2 and help Dr Don Jackson identify the people in the room where l-ir Oswald was receiving emergency treatment. V/hen I entered the room I v/as aked to open equipment the doctors were calling for at that time. I, also, assisted Dr Gustafson with the sta,rting.)of blood in. the cut dQwn in i- ^ the patients right leg. Shortly after I entered the room, Dr M. Perry st^-ted ho was ready for i'dc Oswald to be transfered to the operating room. I v/ent to the elevator located outside the pediatric area of the E.O.R. and held the elevator on ground floor. The patient was taken to surgery and I was asked to ride with the patient and doctors in order to operate the elevator. After 1-ir Oswald was taken from the elevator into the operating room, I returned to the E.p.R. The remainder of the afternoon I resumed ray nursing care duties in the O.B.Gyn area. I, also, continued to help identufy people entering' the E.0.R. TOP SECRET Peioe Exhibit No. 13 206 TOP SECRET ACTr\/ITIES OF C. V/ATKINS, R.N. FRIDAY, NOV. 22, I963 SATURDAY, NOV, 23, I963 On Friday, Nov. 22nd., I was off duty. On Saturday, Nov. 23rd. I came on duty at 7.00 A>I and was assigned to Pediatrics. Although I was back and forth to the main part of the Emergency Room many tiiiies and saw many people that appeared to be reporters, none of them attempted to speak to me. On Sunday I worked 7.00 am to 11.00 pm in Pediatrics. One of the doctors had a radio so we were aware of v/hat was happening but at the time Oswald arrived we v;ere doing a lavage. I was out of my area 3 times during the day, about 10 minutes for a coke, about one to i-lajor Surgery for Aninophyllin and about 5 for supper. I neither saw nor spoke to any one that wasn't either a doctor or a. patient. \'ie didn't even have time to be actively curious. TOPSEC^fTL^ )( /Y Price Exhibit No. 14 206 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF FAYE DEAIvI SHELBY NOV. 22, 1963 and NOV 23, 1963 On Nov 22, 1963 I Ccune back on duty~from lunch about 12.15 pni. I couldn't -et in until 12.30. Then I went to pediatrics where I vrark. About 12.45, I went Major Surgery to see if I could help but was turned around by Miss Nelson. So I went back to pediatrics and stayed until about 2.15 pm. Then I went back to i-lajor Surgery to help clean up for about 15 minutes. And back to pediatrics until time to go home at 3.30 pra. On Saturday, Nov 23, I963. I was on duty at 7.00 AK. I then checked my supplies and v/ent to the supply area to get the supplies I needed. At 8. 30 am I went for coffee and back to pediatrics until lunch and to. the Lab and C.S.R. then back to pediatrics until 3.30 PM. TOP SECRET Peice Exhibit No. 15 207 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF 2RA LUl^iPKIN^AIDE FROM NOON, NOVEi'iBKR 22, 1963 UNTIL 3.30 NOVEI^ER, 24, I963 Friday,up until 12.00 noon, things were slow in E.R. I was waiting to be relieved from my duties so I could go to lunch. After about 30 to 40 minutes later I heard some one call out but I did not understand what v;as said, then shortly after I heard the first cry, then I understood v/hat was being said, "Bring some stretchers", so I grabbed one and out of E.R. I went. Out in the hall there were policemen. I found out later they were Secret Service men. Photographers were in the hall, and when I got out side there were many policemen and bystanders. The policemen had these very long guns in their hands. People were screaming. Some one was putting a man with a suit and a v;hite shirt on a stretcher, the shirt was a mass of blood. On his chest were some red roses. I did not recognize v/ho it was. Some one in the crowd said, "Oh, my Lord, they have shot President Kennedy", I asked if there were anyone else hurt. One officer said he didn't knov;, I am not sure, but I think I sav; some one else being put on a stretcher, and x>rheeled in to E.R. so I took the carriage I had, wheeled it around back into the hall and into E.R. Imraediately I went into truma I. I didn't know who vj-as in that room. After I got into the room, there were lots of doctors and nurses, and people I had never seen before. S9me one asked for a trachotomy tray, I looked in the cabinet and it v;as gone. But I looked and some one had gotten it out. I sav; doctors doing a cut dov/n. I ran out to get some more stands for the trays to be placed on. I . left the room and got the mayo stands, and took them into the room where the President v;as, across the hall in traima I where the President v/as, across the hall in trauma II was Gov, Connally, Mrs Stondridge called to me, she asked me to come in and assist them. I did. She, Mrs Stondridge, said "Tear off some tape and put it on the chest drainage bottle v/here the water level starts". I did. The doctors had put in a chest drainage tube, and needed some tape to secure the tubing that was into Gov. Connally 's chest, Mrs Stondridge was tearing some tape. Then she had to do some- thing. She asked me to tear some more tape 3 inch is what they (the doctors )were using. So I tore some tape for the doctors, Br. Duke ask for some ace adherent to be poured on a sterile flat he was holding. So I poured some on the flat. Then Rosa Majors, the aide, come into the room trauma II and had something in her hands. I think it was Gov. Connally 's valuables. She was asking where to put it, so I said, "In Mrs Stondridge 's pocket". The doctors got ready to take Gov. Connally up to second floor to Surgery, I left out of trau-^. II and went back into Maj. Surg, near the nurses station. Some one brought in this baby that was all bloody. Mrs Nelson said" Rosa, you and Era take care of that baby". So Rosa took the baby and put hin on a cart. Vvegot the baby's clothes off, trying to determine from where the blood was comijig. I Bpotted the cut on the cheek. I asked about the mother. No one knew where she was. I went out to the desk and was told the mother was on her way inside the Emergency Room. TOPS^^Ef ^^ Price Exhibit No. 16 208 TOP SECRET Page 2 '.Vhen I got back into the Emergency Room, the mother had arrived. A doctor said"?ut the child in a booth". So we put the child in a booth. The child v/as crying so loud , some one asked us to carry the baby in major medicine and set up a booth i'or suturing. After v^e got the baby around to Major Kedicine and in a booth, the mother of the child asked hov; '.-/as the President. This doctor said, "Ke is dead". It shocked me, so I forgot a'oout the baby and every thing else, and walked back to booth II in major surgery and stood there, Shirley Randall and me, knowing nothing to do or say but just pray and hope it v;as not true. Finally, some one asked every one to leave out of the Emergency Room. So Shirley Randall and me left out and went into the waiting room. The policeman asked every one out. They told us, Shirley and me, v;e could stay after they asied where we worked, vie said in Emergency Room. There were four patients, Shirley Randall and myself and several doctors left in the v/aiting room. As I looked out the window of the waiting room Oneal ^jnbulance brought in bronze casket and went towards Emergency Room. Later they came back with the casket. As they walked along i-i-s Kennedy walked beside it, as she did when they brought President Kennedy in on the stretcher. The only difference, she v;as running or going in a rapid pace to keep up along side her husband, when they came in. He, or the casket was put into the hearse, with the curtains drawn, and the hearse drove away from the hospital. Shirley and me v;ent down in the basement to the dressing room and left out after being there and went into the coffee shop. \ie didn't want anything to eat, so we got up and walked out of the coffee shop, v;ent back upstairs to the Emergency Room and v;alked around in a daze. I cried and through tears I f anally saw the time was 3.30 pm, time to go off duty. So I did. Before I left duty Mrs Nelson called all personnel into her office that was on duty and talked to us about what had happened, and that v;e v;ere not to discuss anything that happened with any one, not even our own family. If anyone contacted us, newsmen, T .V .personnel or radio, magazine, to tell them to go to the Administrators office on the first floor. Saturday, Nov. 23, 1963 Nothing unusual happened, it was just routiine except for the Administrator bringing down people taking pictures. (Mr. Landregan) November 24, 1963 Routine work as usual xmtil about 11.15 A14. Francis Scott and me were hungry. VJe went to eat lunch in the dining room, vi/hen we finished eating we pimch the elevator and couldn't get the elevator, so v;e went down to Emergency Room by the stairs. VJ'e had heard before v.-e left the dining room that Oswald had gotten shot. So when we got in E.R., I stopped near the nurses station, and I saw Mss Lozano. I asked if she needed any help, she said"No". A few seconds later Oswald doctors came out of trauna II with a big machine of some sort at Oswald's head. Policeman and doctors were all around. They took Oswald upstairs to surgery on the second floor. They had guards everyv^here. VJe heard Oswald had died. Things still in a spin, but finally and at last, it was time to go home. It was 3.30 pm. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 16 —Continued 209 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF JEAN TARKAMT i NOV. 23rd and NOV. 24, 1963 Saturday, Nov. 23rd, I came on duty at 7.05am. I was assigned to Major Medicine. I checked supplies, ordered and restocked. I took vital sign on the patients, made beds, carried Lab work to the lab and pushed patients to X Ray. I also picked up charts in the chart room. I restocked for the next shift. I went off duty at 3.30 pm. Sunday, Nov. 24th, I came on duty at 6.45 am. I was assigned to pediatric clinic. Vie moved all the equipment we needed from the Emergency Room to the clinic, started the day off vath five babies. All six rooms were filled and patients V.'e waiting in the v/aiting room to be seen. I went on break at 9.00 o'clock, I did not stay long because we had so many patients. One of the doctors had the radio on most of the morning listening to the news. V/e were geti,ing the babies out fast. I then sat down to fix Freeman sheets. About eleven o'clock more patients began to come in. I began to take vital sign and make beds. About 12.50pm one of the doctors said that Lee Oswald had been shot eind he imagined that he would be brought to Parkland Hospital. Moments later we all stood up to look outside, then we saw O'Neal a-iibulance and policeman. Also newspaper men and F.B.I, men. About 5 minutes later, Mrs V/atkins, the nurse I was vrorking v;ith ask me to go to C.S.R. to get a L.P.Tray^ I tried to go dovm the hall but I didn't care to have ray picture taken, so ^turned and went through the Emergency Room. As I entered the O.B.Gym Section, everyone v/as in the doorways. I then started through Major Surgery, when I heard someone yell" Clear the way". It v;as then I saw the doctors bringing Lee Oswald from Room 2 of the Emergency Room. I watched them carry him to the elevator. I was still blocked by camera men and reporters. I finally wcked my way to C.S.R. This patient I went to get the tray for wasn't very sick. Or should I just say I was going to get and extra tra.y. I didn't get to lunch that day at all. I had a Dr. Pepper about 2 o'clock. I continued to care for patients. It was around 1.05 pm, the news said the^t Lee Oswald waa dead. In my spare time I '«ould glance outside and watch the cameramen work, and watched the cops go back and forth in and out the building. I went back to Pediatrics Clinic. VJas in the emergency room at 3.28 pm. I w ent off duty at 3.30 pm. when my relief arrived. TOP SECRET SE Price Exhibit No. 17 210 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF FRANCKS SCOTT FRIDAY, NOV. 22, 1963 Friday about 12.15pm I went to lunch. After lunch I was on my way back to the Emergency Room. Just as I v;as coming out of the door five or six doctors came rushing out of the cafeteria to get on the elevator but it was so long coming that I went the other way, I just didn't know what had happened. Vj"hen the elevator came it v/as a doctor and nurse on there. They told us not to use it, so I went the other v/ay to return to E.O.R. VJhen I got down there I saw policeman everyv/here. I did not know what had happened. The first thought I had v/as that there had been a fire. V.'hen I got inside a nurse told me v;hat had happened. I v;as just sick to hear that the President and the Governor had been shot. Mrs Nelson told me that I could come to the back because I had to put up trays, so I immediately started to put up the trays. I'm glad I didn't see very much because I do not think I could have taken it. It was too much for anybody. Saturday, I was on duty at 6,50 am though day was the same as every day but I still had what happened on my mind until I didn't know which v.-ay to go, Sunday, I was on duty at 7.05 am. About 11.15 am I went to lunch. All at once everybody in the cafeteria was going over to look out the window but I but I didn't get up because I didn't think it v;as anything until someone said that Oswald had been shot and they were bringing him in . I immediately -^ got up to return to the Emergency Room because they might need me to put up supplies. Vjhen I got there they vrere taking Oswald to the operating room , ., so I came back and started to put up trays. /•" (?/*" TOP SECRET Pkice Exhibit No. 18 211 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF v.TLLIK HAYi^iOOD NOV 24, 1963 My name is V;illie Hayv;ood. I am the regular orderly in kajor Surgery from 7.00 to 3.30 pm. On this particular Sunday, Wov. 24th, it had been rather quiet most of the morning. There was no more than three or four patients in our area, and they v/ere being cared for. At about 11. 30 or 11.35, I was sent to the Records Boom in the basement to get one of the patients medical charts. On returning to the Emergency Room, I noticed quite abit of activities by the staff members. One of the nurses approached another orderly and myself and told us to check the Trauma Rooms. After seeing that they were set up, she told us that they had gotten a report that Oswald had been shot and was coming here. She then said, "You all had better take a couple o^' carriages to the Emergency entrance and stand by. There may be more Bhot". Shortly afterwards he arrived. \-Ie held the doors open for them to enter and then rushed back to Trauma Room No 2 v.'here they had taken him, to help as I was needed. I stayed in that immediate area until I was told to legve by some of the agents that v/ere gathered there, I then v/ent to my own area and resumed my regular duties which were limited because of the security procedures that had been set up . ^./f (?A^ TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 19 212 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF BERTHA L. LOZANO, R.N., TRIAGE NURSE BEGINNING AT 12:00, NOON, ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 At approximately 12:30 P.M., as I was sitting at the Triage Desk, I suddenly heard a door open, and an unaccountable nximber of Dallas Policemen screamed at me for help and to bring a carriage. I could smell smoke and immediately called to Major Surgery for a carriage. The policemen were still screaming for more carriages, and I left my desk and went to the 0.3. -Gyn. Area and obtained a carriage from Booth #5, with the help of Dr. Bill Midgett who helped me roll it out to the entrance. I remember noticing a patient in a dark suit with his face and head covered with a suit coat roll past me, and at that instant, I was engulfed by a mass of people and seemed to be pushed back toward the Triage Desk. The next thing I remember is looking into the face of Vice President Johnson, standing in front of me, and when I looked at him, recognizing him, I suddenly sensed who our patients on the carriage might be. I was then approached by Secret Service Men and asked for a quiet ^place they could take Mr. Johnson. I checked Minor Medi- cine and Surgery and then led them into a quiet section. The • Secret Service men stated they were closing it off and proceeded to do so. I returned to my desk and began to help the administrators and the officers clear the hallways and usher people into waiting rooms and outside. There was an unaccountable number of Press Men, Presidential Aides, Secret Service Men, and City Policemen v/ho surrounded the desk, many asking questions of conditions on our patients. I could not answer their questions because I didn't know myself. I was asked to bring two cups of coffee and two cokes to Minor Medicine and Surgery by Secret Service Man and sent my orderly, Joe Richards, to get the cokes and obtained the coffee from the Blood Bank across the hallway. At this time, a crying mother rushed in with her bleeding child in her arms and the orderly rushed the child to Major Surgery. I tried to calm the mother and had the registration clerk register the child. The mother was then taken to her child. k-r SECRET Price Exhibit No. 20 213 , TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF BERTHA L.LOZANO,R .N. ON NGVSM3SR 22,1963 — Page 2. By this time the coffee aind cokes were brought to me and I was allowed to enter Minor Medicine and Surgery and gave the cokes and coffee to one of the Secret Service Men. The Press Men and the Secret Service Men of President Kennedy and Vice President Johnson were using the telephone and were asking us to hold the lines open to the White Mouse for them at various times. I remember seeing Vice President Johnson and his wife escorted back toward Major Surgery and returned later back to Minor Medi- cine and Surgery. I remember interviev/ing a non-resident white male who had taLken two nitroglycerin tablets and was complaining of chest pain. I told the ambulance drivers to take him to Major Medicine via X-ray. A technician came to the desk and asked me to expect a private patient who was bleeding. Administration as well as law enforcement agencies and myself continued to help people to waiting rooms and the Blood Bank. Blood technicians came to ask me who "Mr. X" was v/ho did not have an E.R. number. Hematology also came with the same prob- lem and was told the same thing. VJetried to get the President's papers and Gov. Connally's papers back to Major Surgery but were not allowed. A volun- teer was told "papers were not important". The Emergency Room papers were brought back on the President by a volunteer to the Triage Desk, and when I left the desk at the end of the day, the papers were still at the Triage Desk. Irecall talking to Mr. Holcomb at intervals about how hard it v;asto control the traffic and also what to say to the Press calls we were getting. I remember trying to interview a patient who had just arrived and was told the President would be taken out and to clear the hall, which I did. Then the President's body was escorted out. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 20 — CJontinued 214 ACTIVITIES OF BERTHA lIOfe|mo5tEC|CET ON NOVEMBER 22,1963 -- Page 3. The crowd vanished, and then I felt so confused that I just had to leave the desk for a few minutes. I later went to the dining room vrLth Pat Hutton and a Dr. Williams and had coffee and after- wards, went home. Saturday, I was off duty. Sunday, November 24, 1963--Maior Surgery At 11:00 A.M., I was informed by Jill Pomeroy, the ward clerk, that we might prepare for an emergency because there was a large crowd at the City Jail. At 11:15 A.M., after we had prepared the three trauma rooms, we were informed by a medical student that L.H. Oswald had been shot Mrs. J. Standridge and I went to recheck the rooms and escort patients to booths and clear the hallway. When I noticed a doctor in Trauma One Wg^iting for the patient, I screamed at him that we would not taike care of Mr. Oswald in #1 but had already set up #2. Mrs. Standridge, Miss King, S.N. IV, and myself went into #2 Trauma Room and opened up added equipment at which time the patient, L.H. Oswald was brought into the robm. Immediately, a mass of doctors, police, detectives, medical students, and the three of us (nurses) were furiously working on the patient. I helped, handing syringes to draw the blood, tubes for the blood, holding the patient's left hand along with Dr. J. Garvey, going to the Blood Bank with Dr. McGaw to register the blood and obtain more 0-negative blood. I helped a private doctor set up a cut- down tray along with Dr. Don Jackson. I was unable to place an I.D. band on the patient, and as I was standing by Mr. Price, the Administrator, as the patient was going- to the Operating Room, I gave the I.D. band to Miss King who was instructed to take it up to the O.R. as she helped return equip- ment and put it on the patient. We later cleared the Emergency Room for the body to be brought to X-ray. I continued to work until 3:30 P.M. arid went home. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 20 — Continued 215 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF PAT BUTTON ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 1963 I came back from lunch, and went to the O.B.-Gynocology section where I was working. At approximately 12:30 P,M,, the triage nurse called us to bring a cart out to the entrance. We took said cart out the door, and it was then that I realized who 'was in the car. Several people helped put the President on the cart, and we then proceeded to the Major Surgery Section of the Emergency Room to Trauma Room # 1, Mr, Kennedy was bleeding profusely from a wound on the back of his head, and was lying there unresponsive. As soon as we reached the room, a doctor placed an endotracheal tube, and prepared for a tracheostomy. Within a few minutes, there were numerous doctors in the room starting I,V, 's, placing chest tubes and anesthesia with 02« A doctor asked me to place a pressure dressing on the head wound. This was of no use, however, because of the massive opening on the back of the head. Blood was pumped in along with the I,V, 's running. After a period of handing instruments and equipment to the doctors as needed, it was announced that the President had expired. We then removed the tubes and I,V, 's from him, Mrs, Kennedy came in with a priest, and last rites were performed. When Mrs, Kennedy left, we removed all of the equipment from the room, and I then left at the request of the supervisor to get a plastic cover to line the coffin, I returned with it, and Mr, Kennedy was placed in the coffin to await orders to move him by ambulance. After that, I stood outside the door with Mrs, Nelson until the body was removed. When the area was clear, another nurse and I went up to the dining room for coffee. We returned to the Emergency Room where I changed clothes, and left at approximately 4:00 P,M, for home, SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 1963 I arrived for work at 9:30 A,M,, and was told that our names had been released, and to check with administration before talking with anyone, I was not asked any questions by anyone, and spent an uneventful 8 hours on duty. Patricia B, Button, R,N,' PBB:bwh '^P SECRET (f. Price Exhibit No. 21 216 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF SHIRLEY RANDALL, AIDE ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 On Fric^ay, November 22, 1963, about 12: 00, Noon, I had planned to go to lunch. My charge nurse, Mrs. Standridge, asked me to re- lieve someone in O.B.-Gyn.; so, instead of going to lunch, I relieved. About 12:35 P.M., I had started to catch the elevator when I heard someone shouting for somebody to bring some carriages. I turned to one of my co-workers, Era, and asked her what they had said and she didn't know either. We opened the door by the Admitting Desk and saw all of the policemen barging in with big guns. One had a well dressed man by the arm handling him sort of rough; I thought they were bringing in some underworld characters. Then, Miss Lozano the Triage Nurse, shouted, "bring the carriages. , I could understand her so I ran in Minor Medicine and got a carriage. Sy the time I got almost to the back door, they were bringing Gov. Connally in on a carriage; however, at the time I didn't know who anybody was. Just as I got to the back door, another City Policeman was pulling on Rosa (an aide in E.R. ) to try and stop her from entering the Emergency Room. When I got to the outside, I saw all of the black shiny cars in back. Then I realized what must have happened, be- cause I thought about the President was to have made a speech at "Market Hall" that day. But still I didn't want to believe that anything had happened to our President. I wanted to think that something instead had happened to the "Secret Servicemen" When I got to the back. President Kennedy was already on a carri- age, and it was being pushed as fast as could be with Mrs. Kennedy running beside him holding on to him, and a bouquet of red roses which she had, laying over his chest. I slightly remember someone, trying to pull her away. I asked some man -- I don't know who he was -- if there was any more hurt before a policeman and I took the carriage in that I had; he said that he didn't think so. He asked me if I would get someone to come and wash the blood out of the car. I said that I would, but was so excited and nervous I forgot about the car. The policeman and I grabbed the carriage and ran behind the carriage carrying the President. We acted as though we had a dieing patient on .the carriage; we were really running with it. d^^vToV SECRET Price Exhibit No. 22 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 16 217 ACTIVITIES OF SHIRLEY l^fu^SJ^RET 1963 -- Paqe 2. After getting inside Emergency, I started in Trauma I to see if I could be of any assistance, but when I pushed the door open, I could see that it was enough in there already. I didn't feel like going to lunch then, so I thought about the other patients and started checking all of the patients that were in booths in Major Surgery because all of the patients that weren't in a booth were sent outside to the waiting room. Afterwards, I went to Major Medicine and checked on the patients there. They, the ambulance drivers, were bringing in a patient to Medicine. I vitalized that patient and then went back to Surgery to see if I was needed over there for anything because I then sav/ two of the aides helping out, such as getting I.V. stands and getting extra trays that were needed. When I got to Surgery, I found that I was so nervous I couldn't think of anything to do but walk; it seemed that I was half-way in a trance. I v/ent outside to the desk as I thought maybe there would be something out there I could help do. Just as I got out there, a lady brought her little boy in who had been cut on the Jaw, Blood was all over he and the child. She started to faint, and the triage orderly grabbed the child and I grabbed the mother and took her to the nearest chair. Miss Lozano watched her while I went right across froni the desk to the Blood Bank and got some ammonia for the mother to smell; she got alright then. I led her to the Emergency Room and found a booth in Medicine for the doctor to suture the baby. That is when he told me and some more aides that the President was dead. Era and I left and went back to Surgery and stood in a booth. Mr. Landregan asked everybody, including the Emergency personnel, please to leave the room. We then went to the stairway and stood by the door, both feeling very depressed. Finally we v;ent to the Waiting Room and stood there watching outside the window. The police made everyone leave the Waiting Room except the patients. I think it was about four patients in there. One policeman told me to put them all in a corner. So I asked three of them to move . to the corner where they couldn't see anything; the other patient was in a wheelchair and I pushed her into the corner too. I ex- plained to them that after everything was over, they could then go back and receive treatments. One patient wanted to know why they were trying to keep everybody from looking and going into the Emergency Room because the President was dead now. I explained that Mrs. Kennedy was not dead and it was probably for her safety. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 22 —Continued 218 ACTIVITIES OF SHIRLEyJiOiPliSECRET CN >:0VEM)3ER 22, 1963 -- Page 3. Finally everything was over. I went to the Coffee Shop for some coffee, but after going doivn there, I didn't want anything. I came back to Emergency, and Mrs. Nelson wanted to sec all of tl)e day personnel in her office. She told us not to discuss anything that had happened during the period that the President came in with anyone. It was then time to go home. I was After getting home, I didn't talk to anyone on the phone. surprised that nobody even called that night. I did my routine of work at home for the evening while listening to the news and then went to bed. I was off Sunday; so, therefore, I don't know what happened when Oswald came out except what I saw on the T.V. (Signed) Shirley Randall E.R. Aide TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 22 —Continued 219 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF ROSA M. MAJORS, AIDE, ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 On Friday, November 22, 1963, I was scheduled to work in Minor Medicine from 8:00 A.M. to 4:30 P.M. At 12:00, Noon, I went to lunch and came back. 1 started to the Waiting IJoom when this man busted in the door with a gun on his shoulder v/ith two police- men behind shouting, "clear the hallway and bring some carriages." Everybody in the Waiting Room began to panic. I started out of the V;aiting Room when this policeman pushed me back in. He had me pinned in the VJaiting Room with all the other people. I kept telling him to let me out, that I worked in the Emergency Room. By then, an R.N., two aides, and an orderly had brought the carri- age out The first thing that came to ray mind was that it ivas a bad accident. I didn't realize it was the President and the Governor until I ran back in the Emergency Room. I started in Trauma Room I I was pushed out. Then I v/ent in Trauma Room II to see what I could do; there was Gov. Connally, very much in pain. I helped Tommy pull his clothes off at once. We went through his valuables and checked them. I started back into Trauma Room II when this man pushed me back and said, "you can't go in there"; it so hap-* pencd that my supervisor, Mrs. Doris Nelson, was standing there, and she said, "let her through." I brought the ticket back and gave it to my head nuj;se, Mrs. Standridge. I came out of Traum.a Room II and started to the supply area when this policeman told me to leave, that I would only be in the way; so I did ju'st that. Istarted back in my area when a patient came in, cut on the side of his face. I was told to take care of the patient at once. After I finished getting the patient prepared to be sutured, word had come through that the President was dead. When I heard those words, I was shocked and very depressed. I walked out of the Emergency Room, stood behind the desk where they sign patients in, trying to come to my self because I just couldn't believe it was true. It all seemed like a nightmare to me. I stood there for a while with Faye; we decided to go across the hall in Minor Medicine and look out of the window. As we were going to look out of the window, Mr. Price came and pushed us out; I was pushed aroxind so much that day until I began to think I was a volley ball. ,v-^^ ^r TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 23 220 ; ACTIVITIES OF ROSA M.llftoRS ,AID^, ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 - Page 2. I started back in the Emergency Room when I was told to go back to out, that if I was needed, they would call me; so I decided patients again, go in Pedi.E.O.R. and stay until we started seeing After they carried the President's body out, all the area was opened for work again, but no one was in the mood for working; we all was too upset. Out in Minor Medicine, patients began to the more come in very upset; the more that came in like that, uDSGt I got. I just could make it through the day. When I got I took home that evening I was too upset to talk to anyone; so my medicine and' went to bed and stayed until it was time to come to work Saturday morning. Saturday was a very quiet day and sad to everyone because we couldn't believe a tragedy like this could happen in our tovm. Sunday started out to be like any normal day until we heard County. The they were to move Oswald from the City Jail to the Administrator came in Minor Medicine where Mrs. Standridge and I work and asked her if she v/ere in charge. She said, "yes"'. He said, He said, "I just got work they are moving Oswald". there "There are mobs of people dovm there. I don't know if About two will be any trouble, but to be alert just in case". seconds after he waLked out, Mrs. Pomeroy came and told Mrs. Standridge they just shot Oswald. We all ran across the hall and got things set up. I sent all the patients out to Minor • Medicine. I kept on working just like any other day. bringing Next thing I knew, Oswald had expired, and they were his family in to explain to them what had happened while the doctor explained to the family. every- I baby-sat with his two cute little children; after that, thing was almost back to normal. (Signed) Rosa M. Majors Aide TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 23— Continued TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF JILL POMEROY, WARD CLERK ON NOVEMBER 24, 1963 Upon arriving at work at 7:00 A.M. on Sunday morning, I went to the Personnel Room and put my purse and coat in my locker. I then checked to see if all employees scheduled for duty had arrived, Everyone was present with the exception of one orderly. He never did arrive. I checked all areas for vacutainer tubes to see if each area had an ample supply. After 8;00 A.i-i., I v;ent upstairs to the switchboard and got the Doctors' Call Sheet. I returned to the Emergency Room and went to Mrs. Nelson's o:Jxice and began working on some cards of employees in the Emergency Room which we keep up to date. The cards list phone numbers and addresses of all er.iployees; also, they list who to call in case of an emergency. I stayed in the office around forty-five minutes. At approximately 9:00 A.M., Jeanette Standridge and I went to coffee. After returning from the Coffee Shop, all work went on in the usual way, the making of carts, carrying over lab work, getting old Emergency Room Sheets and Charts, etc. Around 11:15 A.M., Miss Bertha Lozano, the scheduled nurse for Major Surgery, informed me she was going upstairs to lunch. If we needed her for anything, we could page her or go up to the • dining room and get her. She had just left Major Surgery when a man, whom I don't recall, came up and asked me if I worked here. When I told him I did, he told me that Oswald had been shot at the Police Station and he was being loaded in an ambulance to be brought out here. I immediately summoned Sertha Lozano, who, at this tim^ was in the O.B.-Gj/n. section. I then went to the Triage Desk and informed Miss Sally Settles, R.N.; from there, I went across to Minor Medicine to tell Mrs. Jeanette Standridge. 'We both returned to the Major Surgery Area. I started clearing all the area of patients auid visitors that were not in a booth, sending patients waiting on lab work and on x-rays across the hall to the Minor Medicine Area. The curtains were pulled on the booth. The halls were cleared of patients and visitors. I went into Trauma Room II where Mrs. Standridge was getting the room ready. She asked me to go to C.S.R. and get some gloves, sizes 7-| and 8's. I hurried to C.S.R. and got the gloves; on returning, I cleared the hall around the Emergency Room entrance of people standing around. I took the gloves to Mrs. Standridge. Then, I heard someone say, "Here he coraes." t^' n, TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 24 222 . TOP SECRET IVITI3S 07 JILL PC>!Ei^OY,vJA:oke in a very d voice in my ear and said, "Send all of the security men to .. - ency area, [there is trouble". I asked her v;hat kind of trouble and she sai^, '•; shooting", 2nd hung up without saying what kind of trouble or identifying herself. Officer Gerloff vjas the only security officer on duty at the time and he had just walked into the office. I immediately sent him to the emergency are: Shortly thereafter, approxim.ately five minutes, Mrs. Lewis, Supervisor in t: .ousekeeping Department, opened the door to the Personnel Office and said "Do yoi riow that the President has been shot". I answered, "No". Mrs. Lewis, seeing the, mere wa^s no one else in the office except myself, asked if she could answer my te:^ophone for r.e while I went to the emergency area. I told her that I vjould appreciate it, and left irj?.adiately. I went to the emergency area and learned that the President of the United States and the Governor of the State of Texas, were in the emergency room and had been shot, to what extent I did not Imow. I saw that there was a rush of people in this area and that help was needed immediately in holding back the crowds, and getting proper identification from people authorized to be in this area before they were allowed to enter. I found Bob Holcomb, Assistant Administrator, and Jack Price, Administrator, in this area, helping to maintain order. five Chief Jessie Curry of the Dallas Police Department, contacted me in approximately minutes and offered any number of officers that I needed to secure the emergency area area un- and the >^ospital. I asked him to keep people from coming into the emergency less they were orcperly identified and authorized to be in that area. He secured the emero-ency room entrance, the door leading down the stairs into the basement and the Central door°at the opposite end of the hall leading from the Admitting Office and Supply by placing his men at these points of ingress and egress. I had men stationed in the hallway leading from the Out-Patient Clinic to the emergency -the emergency area to secure this door and placed two men on the elevator leading from city police room upstairs to secure this place of ingress and egress. There were two the hallway doors adjacent to officers stationed in front of the blood bank and in emergency. In ^^s - stated before. Security Officer Gerloff had been sent direct to this area. heard of the -ust a few minutes Security Officers J. K. Shankles and L. G. Moore, these men incident on the radio and came to the hospital at once to assist. I placed aryj.the city oolice officers in areas to have complete security with the exception of a-itliorized people such as secret service, press, doctors, nurses, workmen needed m this area, etc. >1 TOP SE«i&Rfr Price Exhibit No. 29 229 ^^S^ - TOP SECRET Memo. ^246 At approxir.ately 1:00 P. M. ,. I was asked to clear the way for Vice President Lyndon Johnson and Mrs. Johnson, who came out of Minor Surgery Division completely surrounded by secret service men, in order that they may exit through the back door of the emergency area. At approximately 1:00 P. M., I was notified that a casket would arrive soon at the emergency. We were asked to lend all assistance possible in letting them in. When tne casket arrived it was accompanied by Pegg Oiieal, owner of Oneal Funeral Home. He was assisted in moving the casket into the area vjhere the late President's body was. Approximately thirty minutes later, the casket was brought out through the door. I was told that it contained the body of the late President. It was accompanied by secret service men, Mr. Oneal, and Mrs. Jacqueline Kennedy, who walked beside it with her hand on the casket. We cleared the hallway and assisted this party out of the emergency area. Shortly thereafter. Miss Bowron, R. N. in the emergency room, handed me a wrist watch and I was informed the watch belonged to the late President, Mr. John F. Kennedy. I placed the watch in. my pocket and as soon as I could find time to get to a telephone, I notified Mr. Forrest Sorrells, Agent-in-charge of the Secret Service in Dallas, Texas that I was in possession of a watch that was reported to be that of the late President.' .Mr.Sorrells told me to keep the watch and he would send an agent, either here or to my home, to pick up the watch. I carried the watch in my pocket for several days and the watch had not been picked up. I again called Forrest Sorrells and reminded him that I was still in possession of the watch. He told me that he had not forgotten it but had not had the manpower to send for it, but that he would send for it soon. The watch was picked up on November 26, 1963, at 4:05 P. il. by Mr. Roger Warren an Agent of the United States Secret Service. " ' At approximately 1:00 P. M. , Chief Curry of the Dallas Police Department came to me and asked if I could possibly get a telephone out of the building so he could call the Police Department. V;e could not get an outside line on the hospital trunk lines, so I came to my office and used my private line to relay a message for him. The message was: "Clear the area around the reloading place where the President and his party were to depart". The message was not to be broadcast but that they were to send officers there and see that this area was kept clear of all unauthorized people. I then went back to the emergency room where I assisted in every v/ay to keep this area secure until approxi- mately 2:00 P. M. I was then informed that we had considerable traffic in the m.ain lobby in front of the building. I sent two security officers to this area and cleared the hallway of all un- authorized people, so that authorized persons could move about in this area. Chief Curry and I again conferred and he told me that until there was no further need he would continue to furnish me with the needed number of city police officers to secure the hospital. Two men were kept on the emergency entrance, t\'?o men on the main entrance in front of the hospital, and two men on the personnel entrance that leads out by nursing service to the staff residence. This security was maintained until 11:00 P. M. that night when it was deemed no longer necessary. The security officers were removed ^.ad it was turned over to the State Highway Patrol, State Rangers, who had moved into this area by this tine. In fact they started moving in immediately after 4:00 P. M. setting up press rooms. Governor's offices on the main floor in front of Nursing Service, and taking part of Administrative offices, and tightly securring the second floor where the Governor was being treated. I TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 29— Continued 230 j?age 3 TOP SECRET Memo. ^246 \t approximately 3:00 P. M. , I went to the front entrance and worked with the city Dolice in lifting some of the tight security in order to permit our employees to :r.rurthe hospital for work. This was worked out very nicely. I instructed Officer J. H. Shsnkles and Officer L. G. Moore that they would relieve .each other and maintain constant supervision over the front lobby and hallway in front of the business offices, and left the same instructions for Officer H. N. Locklin, iwho was to come on duty at 11:00 P. K. that night. On Saturday and Sunday, I pulled Officer Shankles back on the day watch, making two security officers to work the daylight shift where we were having trouble with curiosity seekers using their perrogative to pursue the favorite passtime of the good old american public, that of gandering. This was worked out vzithout incident. Sure^ a few were un- happy about it, but to this date I have not received a complaint from anyone that they were rr.ishandled or mistreated by any of the security officers or anyone else engaged in the security of the hospital. On Friday night, shortly after 10:00 P. M., having properly instructed the security officers in their duties, I left the hospital. Saturday was relatively quiet, other than a few curiosity seekers. I checked with the security officers and was informed that all was well. Sunday, November 24, 1963 at 11:00 A. M. , Mrs. Wright and I went to church. After we left church we did not even go back home but came direct to the hospital to check and see if all was vjell before going to lunch. When we arrived at the hospital, we learned of the death of Oswald. Again there were terrific crowds, newsmen, etc., around -the hospital. I again called upon Chief Curry for assistance in helping with this situation and he very graciously complied. With the help of the rangers, state highway patrol, city police and my security officers, we were able to secure the hospital once again. Shortly after my arrival, approximately 12:30 P. M. , I went to the emergency area and assisted Dr. Rose and the other officers in working out a route from emergency to the norgue, in order for Oswald's body to be moved there. This was done without incident. M approximately 2:30 P. M. , Dr. Kemp Clark and I went through the roster to set up 3 list of names, for identification purposes, of those from Southwest Medical School who would bo moving back and forth into the area where the Governor was being treated. I was also informed by Mr. Price that each Department would submit to me a list of the personnel who would be involved in working on the second floor. The Department heads ^ere contacted and each of them submitted to me a list of the employees involved in one ,v?ay or another on the second floor, to better identify them for the State Rangers who had this floor secured. I worked until approximately 5:30 P. M. when the press and curiosity seekers had leveled off considerably and then having the hospital secured with the assistance of the above named agents, I again left the hospital. 3n Monday the situation was very confusing and I worked with the State Police, State :iighv;ayPatrol, County Police, coordinating and briefing each other on what had happened, ^ow and why. The day was a very busy day in this respect but no untoward incident of sny i:i-.portance happened on this day. Security, with v;hat few men I had at my command, was still maintained with the backing of the State Highway Patrol and State Rangers who had secured the entire second floor. I Left the hospital at approximately 7:30 P. M. on Monday. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 29 —Continued 231 Sase 4 TOP iUr 9EWKCI SECRET Memo. #246 Attached herewith are resume's of the activities of the Security Officers who werei involved in the handling of this incident, Officers Shankles, Moore, Gerloff and Locklin. c_.. ¥U(c/~ "7 ^'./ •"-"'- 0. P. Wright' Personnel Director OPW/ed Attachjnents (4) TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 29 —Continued 232 TOP SECRET December 1, 1963 To the best of my knowledge ar.d recollection, the following is a resume the su2nts which occurred from Friday, I\!ovorr,ber 22nd, through Sunday, Novsmbar 24th. Ali.houoh I was not scheduled to report for t.ork until 3:00 p.m. on iday, I left my home about 11:30 a.m., in uniform, in order to take care of psrsonal business. At about 12:40 p.r,:., I turned on my car radio and heard the ns'^-'s broadcast in progress at that ti.xc reporting the shooting of President Kennedy and GcvDrnor Connally. I i.T.r.-.CiC'iataly headed for Parkland Hospital, arriving a few minutes before 1:00 p.m. Upon arrival, I talked brii'-;fly -^o Security Officer Gcrioff at the Emergency Entrance and then reported tc Mr. 0. P. Wright, who was just inside the back door, for instructions, mr. bright placed me in the corridor between ' the Emergency desk and Emergency entrance on what I would coll Check Point Two, where I assisted City Officers in checking personnel for proper identification and keeping the area clear of unauthorized persons. Shortly after 1:00 p.m., the Catholic Priest, Father Huber, arrived and I escorted him to the Emergency desk at Check Point Three where he was ushered immediately into Emergency by members of the hospital staff. At about 2:00 p.m., we received word to clear a passageway through the emergency corridor cf all personnel and within a few minutes the casket bearing President Kennedy's body was escorted out by Secret Service Agents and placed in a hearse. This was done quietly and without any incidents. Approxi- mately 30 minutes later I was told by i<\t . Wright that there was a large number of people in the main lobby and adjacent corridor and to clear that area of all unauthorii-ed persons and to keep it clear. I report.-jQ immediately to this area and in about 15 minutes had it cleared. I regained on this Check Point until about 11:30 p.m. except for two brief intervr^ls - once at 7:05 p.m. to check an incident in 4-E per instructions of Wr. I'Jright, and at 6:40 p.m. for a cup of coffee - and permitted only authorized persons to enter that part of i;he building; nameJy, F.8.I., Secret Service, other officers with proper identification, members of the press, technicians, and telephone personnel setting up the Governor's office. During this period cf time I turned back well in excess cf one hundred persons, most of whom readily admitted that they were there just to see what was going on. Approximately 5 of this number had cameras but were told no pictures were allowed and they were escorted to the main entrance of the lobby and out of the building. In ths early evening, members of Governor Connally 's family and close friends started arriving at the Hcspital. They were ushered immediately to Governor Connally 's office on l-£ and introduced to Department of Public Safacy Officers who took charge under the direction of the Governor's Aide, Mr. Stinson. I was relieved st about 11:30 p.r... by Mr. Locklin, Hospital Security. All instructions pertaining to personnel - press room locations - accommodations and security for the Governor's party were passed on to him at this time. I reported back to the Hospital on Saturday morning shortly after 7:00 a.m., reported my presence to Switchboard operators and then reported in person to the Governor's office where I •.-•as introduced to Captain Childress of the Department of Public Safety by Officer Herderson whom I have known personally for several years. I infcrinedTM^©:tCfp5#PU«Time I was on duty and avail-, able to assist them in any way.*^^" ^EWI%fcl —Continued Price Exhibit No. 29 744-732 O-64-vol. XXI 17 233 TOP^'SECRET ThrcuQ.'-icut the cntirs day, Saturdiiy w3r> quiet and I contacted and talked to only about 2 or ^ people around the riospital Grounds who *erc thero out of curiosity. I was ralievGd shortly after 3:0C p.m. by Mr. Moore, Parkland Security, and passod on the same instructions as before concerning security msasures and chacUing L'niuthorized persons. I reportod back to the Hospital for duty on Sunday morning at 7:00 a.m. and roported my prosence to State Officers at the Governor's office. E'jsrything was quiet during the .Teaming ho^rs but knouiing thi pos- sibility of violence during the transfer of Iso Harvay Oswald on that morning, I went to the Emargency area around 10:30 a.ri-;. end was still in th^at area' when contacted by Mr. Price. I was told - "ThcrG has been trouble - go to the En-.ergency entrance and keep it clear." fir. Price and I hurried to Emergency entrance where I cleared all persons from the entrance into the Emergsncy waiting room and asked Mr. Price at this time if he could ssind me a couple of State Officers to assist me. At about 11:00 a.m., a surging mass of people hit the doors of Emergency - at approximataly the same time the ambulance arrived with Lee Harvey Osi'iald. Two- City Officers and I had to fight for clearance through the pcopis, television cameramen, and neut'smen, in order to gat the stretcher into smsrgsncy. It took approximatf^ly 5 to 15 minutes of physical effort to cleer the crowd of psopla from' the doorway. City Officers continued to push the crowd of pcopla on back until they had cleared the entire outside arsa back on to the parking lot area - they kept this cleared for the rarr.air.dar of the day. I placed mycalf in the entrance to Emergency (back door) with one City Officer who uas stationed there by a Sargaant of Dallas Police .and allowed nc cnc to enter hospital without proper authority. During this time two emergency cases, members of the Oswald family (escorted by Plain Clothes Officers), and two city' officers armed with riot guns were perm.itted to enter the hospital. The two City Officers were stationed at the door to the Emergency Operating Room. I did not know at this time but Oswald was pro- nounced dead at 1:07 p.m. At aroung 2:00 p.m., hie body was moved from the Emergency area to the morgue. At this tima the Check Point of officers was moved from the Emergency Desk area and we were told by a Sargeant of Dallas Police - "Ra dr.z permitted to enter at this time." In about 5 minutes time I walked down tna corridor to Emergency desk and asked the Sargeant for clarification cf these orders and he said - "Authorized persons with proper identification can be permitted same as before but no newsmen or photographers that could gee in cmero'ency for picturas or questioning of emergency room personnel to cr, passed through." During this approximate 5 minute interval, one Parkland hospital doctor (name unknown) was turned back by the City Officer en the dooi.-. Around 2:30 p.m., the City Officer was taken from the Emergency entrance and at this time I \usr\l to th= Main Lobby to check that area. Tight .security •-.as still osing maintained there and at the east entrance by City and State Officers. I CO not know at what tim.c tney were secured from these positions. Z .-.a; relieved by Mr. Moore a few minutes after 3:00 p.m. - passed on all oertinent information to him as before. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 29— Continued 234 TOP SECRET I noticed as I left tha Hospital grounds around 3:30 p.m. there ire cf"ficsr3 still posted on tha roof er.d a tight security check on all •rivils was still in effect at Harry Hincs and the entrance to the Hospital •curids. C-^ PuTklKn:! Hospital Security Officer TOP SECRE Price Exhibit No. 29 —Continued 235 TOP SECRET n'r. 0. p. Wrifiht I hoard over the radio that Mr. Kennedy had been shot and immediately came on to work, on Friday, November 22, 1963. I car::e on into the emergency area and thero were scvaral FBI men who instructed me to stand at the end of the counter in emergency to keep unauthorized people out. This I did. At approximately 1:00 P. M. , we received word that the President had died. A casket was brought to the hospital by Oneal Funeral Home, and it was taken into the room where Ifhe body of the late President was. Later when they brought the casket out, we assisted in helping them get it into the hearse, and they drove away. We continuu'd to follow instructions given by Mr. Wright and Chief Curry, in order to maintain order and secure the hospital, in all areas. Saturday was relatively quiet, but we coatinued to secure the hospital and maintain order, keeping unauthorized people out of the areas. Sunday, November 24, 1963, I was looking at television at home and heard that Jack Kuby had shot Oswald and that he was being taken to Parkland Memorial Hospital. Eyer though I was not scheduled to come on duty until 3:00 P. M., I immediately came on' to the hospital and went to work trying to keep order. '• I was instructed to stand guard at the back elevators and not to let anyone in unless a member of their immediate family was critically ill, and then to let only one from a family in. I continued to stand guard at whatever area I was needed, and the hospital remained secured, and there was no further incident. L. G. Moore, Security Officer Personnel Department LGM/ed TOP SECRET Trice Exhibit No. 25) — Continued i2;U> TOP SECRET November 28 , 1963 To: Kr. 0. P. Wrisht ground 12:30 P. M. , Friday, November 22, 1963, I was in the Personnel Office when r. 0. P. Wright answered the telephone and afterward asked me to report to the Emergency area. I arrived there to find President Kennedy's personal body guard ( I heard him state so over the telephone he was using by the cashier's desk) telling personnel of emergency to get streatchers. I then walked outside as the President and Governor Connally were wheeled past on streatchers. I was then asked by a Secret Service agent not to allow anyone through the emergency entrance without positive identification. All employees were asked to enter through the emergency waiting room, but it became so congested that the Secret Service agents then asked that the room be cleared. This was done by the FBI and the Dallas Police Department, I was then relieved of the emergency entrance detail by a Sergeant of the Dallas Police Department. I then went outside and helped keep press people and spectators away from the Presidential car. Ground 1:00 P. M. we received word that the President had deceased aru that a casket was on its v;ay to the hospital. After the casket arrived I helped unload it and con- tinued to help police keep spectators and press cleared of the immediate area. k few minutes later a Secret Service Agent asked two other officers and myself to draw the curtains on the hearse and asked me to be sure to have the back door to the hearse open as the casket came out of emergency. Before the casket was brought out all spectators and press people were moved by the Dallas Police to the sidewalk at the end of the building on the left and to the' road leading to the loading dock on the right, ^s the casket came out, Mrs. Kennedy at its side, I helped put it into the hearse and matched it leave at approximately 1:30 P.M. From then until 3:30 P. M. I continued to [lelp the police maintain order and keep the area clear, allowing no one to enter without proper identification. Dnly Secret Service and FBI were allowed to enter, all other individuals were sent to press rooms 101 and 102. Before leaving I checked with Mr. Shankles to see if I should remain longer than 3:30 P. M., but he said no, I was relieved. Charles D. Gerloff Security Officer Dallas County Hospital District )G/ed TOP SECRET Price E}xiiibit No. 2i)—Continued 237 TOP SECRET To: Mr. 0. P. Wright i On Friday, November 22, 1963, I was instructed to keep all unauthorized persons off the second floor, where the Governor of the State of Texas was being treated for ;jun shot wounds. I made my regular tour of duties throughout the night on the 11-7 shift, and carried out all instructions left by Security Officer J. Shankles and Mr. 0. P. Wright, Personnel Director. I informed the Captain of the Highway Patrol that I would be on duty and was ready and willing to do anything I could to help them, if they would just tell me. Henry N. Locklin Security Officer HNL/ed TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 29— Continued 238 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF MARGARET HINCHLIFFE BEGINNING AT 12:00, NOON, ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 November 22, 1963, I was on duty in the Major Medicine Area n Shortly after 12 o'clock, noon, one of the orderlies f the E.O.R. ame back to the area to get a cart, at which time he said there ;ere two or three people on the way in that had been shot. liewere not very busy at that tirae; so I v/ent ov.;r to the Surgery to see if I could help. |i.rea I walked over to the area just as :hey were bringing the patients into the Emergency Room. : immediately v/ent into Room 1 and started setting up I.V. fluids. :hen I assisted the doctor v;hile he inserted an endotracheal tube ind started the I.P.P.B. machine. As soon as this was done, I opened a tracheostomy tray and gloves for the doctors. \/hile one group was doing the tracheostomy, I opened up a chest tray and assisted the doctors in putting in chest tubes. By this time there were three I. Vs. going, and one of the doctors said to get sorae O-negative blood; I immediately left the room to get-, the blood. I went by the office in the Surgery Area to get a card v/e use in . order to' pick up uncrossed matched blood, and at this time I asked who the patient was in Room 1, and one of the doctors said it was the President. I was completely stunned for a few seconds but thought, "I have to get the blood to the doctors", and in a matter of two or three minutes, the blood was going. But it wasn't but a few :.iinutes later that the doctors pronounced the President dead. For a few moments everyone just stood, not really believing the President was really dead. Then Mrs. Kennedy and the priest en- tered the room, at v;hich time the last rites were said. After Mrs. Kennedy and the priests left the room. Miss Bowron and myself, with the assistance of David Sanders, the orderly, pre- pared the body. of his clothing and belongings were put into a paper bag and .^.11 and given to the Secret Service men. y ^ TOP-SECRET £^< Price Exhibit No. 30 239 TOP SECRET ACTIVITIES OF MARGARET HINCHLIFFE ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 - Page 2. We remained with the body until he was placed in the casket. Then, Mrs. Kennedy entered the roora and everyone left the room and waited outside until the President's body was taken from the hospital I then resumed my job in the Major Medicine Area. About thirty minutes later a boy about sixteen years old came into the Emergency Area carrying a small box camera. I asked him what he wanted and he' said he wanted to make pictures of the room in which the President had died. I told him he could not do this and that he was to leave the Emergency Room Area immediately. I v;asrelieved shortly after three o'clock in the Major Medicine Axea.,and then I went out to the Triage desk and worked there until 4:00 P.M. when the evening nurse came on duty. I was off duty Saturday and Sunday. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 30—Continued 240 ACTIVITIES OF DORIS NELSON, R.N., BEGINNING 12:00 NOON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 1963 At approximately 12:00 Noon I returned from lunch, and proceeded to check the various areas in the Emergency Room, At approximately 12:33 P.M. I answered the phone which was ringing in the Major Surgery Nurses' Station. Mrs. Bartlett, the telephone operator, informed me that the President had been shot, and was being brought to the hospital. I told her to "stop kidding me". She said "I am not. I have the police dispatcher on the line." I thanliA-4*iTrr"lhdL ' l cuuld get hiii tHbR^^o-th^-Eaergeftey RnQpij hut rViajr--T--rr^TrThy7a-,4---htr;T^t^-h.a-^^nii1^ >. a a 1 ] nwp d tO SPeak WJth Mr-s-,—Kemrcdy-. While I was talking with him, another secret service man grabbed r.e by the arm and asked if I knew an alternate route the Johnson*s could use for an exit. I told him I had walked out an alternate route with another agent a few minutes ago and that if he would come with me, I v;ould show him. We went to the Emergency Room elevator, one of the maintenance men was irR»i£Jr, 5 told him to take us to the basement. About that tine, one of the residents breathlessly TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 33 —Continued 260 mwi ^nd^S^iPScT to ran in with two units of WIotS ^nd^iHc^^^nScf t jjet to the second floor immediatel)', it was an extreme emergency, so I instructed the elevator operator to go to second, and then to take us on down to the basement. Tlie secret service agent and I "ran" the alternate route, then when we got back to the Emergency Room area, he asked me to show him wliere the JohnsonCs were. V.'e went through the center of the Emergency Room to Minor Medicine, but the Johnson's were gone. Two colored aides were standing on the window sill looking out the window, and the agent and I parted the slats and looked out at the crowds. About that time another agent came in the door and said, "My God, they've gone." Both men left hurriedly. I went back to the surgical area after checking all entrances again and had just opened the door leading from the surgical area into the main corridor when I heard a scuffle outside. Chief Wright was there and Mrs. Nelson was coming in the door rather shaken. A man in a light gray speckled suit was sprawled on the floor. I asked Nelson if every- thing were under control and what happened. She said that an FBI man had tried to enter the area without showing his credentials and that a secret service agent had knocked him winding. Several secret service agents had at this time rushed to the scene. I saw the man get up and heard him say as I was closing the door, "You're not in control now - v,-hat's your name." I checked the surgical area again, then left and went back up the corridor, talked briefly to the guards and was almost in the surgical area when I heard murmurs and turned and saw the casket being rolled in. As they passed the triage desk, someone shouted, "Stop those reporters." Several (three, I think) of the men supposedly helping with the casket were reporters. I ran up, noticed that Steve was on the right side, so I ran to the left side and with Mrs. Nelson TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 33 — Continued 261 9 at the end of the casketjORlSECRJEj to the door where I turned back to prevent anyone else from going in. Mr. O'Neal had a brief conference with a secret service man regarding embalming and then they moved off. Shortly thereafter. Dr. Earl Rose was seen in the area. He was very pale and agitated and stated that according to the law, the body could not be moved without an order from a justice of the peace or a decision made about a medicolegal. Tnere was a frantic questioning of the people in the Emergency Room as to where a justice of the peace could be located. Someone said Justice of the Peace Wsurd^ (or Hall) was across the hall in front of the Lab. I ran over and asked if he were there and directed him to the nurses station where Drs. Rose, Clark and a bevy of secret service men were in conference. These few minutes seemed interminable and the tensions increasingly mounted. Finally when I saw that they, were getting ready to move the casket, I left and went up the corridor, asking everyone to move back and to clear the way. I asked a guard to stand in the waiting room door and a policeman to please clear the other entrances. I stood at the south end of the center of the corridor with my back to the wall as the casket was wheeled up the corridof. As tl\e procession came, it was ^/--z- lead by secret service men, Mrs. Kennedy was walking on the :e^^ side 0/= Ac C-9*>ee- with her right hand encased in a bloodstained glove resting on the casket near' the head. The O'Neal funeral home personnel were pushing from behind while Mr. O'Neal was at the head. As the casket passed I could not resist the impulse to place my hand on it briefly as it passed as an expression of our sorrow and grief and^a final salute. At the time the casket passed the cashier's office, I looked at my watch - the time was 2:20 p.m. I watched the hearse leave, then went back into the Blood Bank where Dr. Guy insisted that I have a cup of coffee and teased me about aoout my appearance, stc stating that I looked like TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 33 — Continued 262 I needed some blood myself. I tolcT ffiem ula? i was all ripht and went back into the Emergency Room area. I saw Mrs. Nelson and told her that. I wanted to see her in her office. I then went and got a cup of coffee for her and one for myself, and went into her office, smoked a cigarette, but couldn't drink the coffee, while we talked. I asked her to get summary statements from all of her personnel while the events were still fresh' in their minds, then I came back to my office. Shortly after coming to my office. Dr. Carter Pannill came in and asked if he could assist in any way. I asked him to please stay in the office as there might be some medical questions or ques- tions pertaining to faculty members that he could help me with. Shortly thereafter Dr. Clark came in followed by Dr. Seldin. Dr. Clark gave us a run do^m on what had happened in Trauma 1 and gave us the details as he saw tliem. Dr. Clark stated that he would contact all of the medical personnel involved and get statements from them before he left that day in order that we could get the facts while they v;ere fresh and get the personal versions correlated. UTiile we were discussing these things, Pete came in and I asked him. to go dov/n and ask Mrs . Nelson for f. resume which I had discussed with her previously. Later Pete brought back the attached statement. Scot ipiter Dr. Ton Shires and other personnel who had been working with Governor Connally came in. Dr. Shires^'Jold us briefly his experience of having just finished his lecture in Houston, and being whisked ba:ck by jet to operate on the Governor, Dr. Seldin left with the request that we call him if he could be of any assistance to us. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 33 — Continued 263 11 We assisted witf^pb^ ^9-BGwtB'1^''^^"S di^nataries, a na^ber of questions pertaining to arranjjcments for the Governor's welfare, his staff, his family and many friends. One question in particular was a question about some of our colored personnel being scheduled for duty for the Governor. I left the office auite late that nicjht. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 33 — Continued 264 TOP SECRET Saturday was a confused nightmare of answering the telephone, questions of FBI, secret service agents, visiting dignataries who cane to check on the Governor and to complinent the hospital. Most of the doctors who had treated the President and the Governor came by the office during the course of the day. Details pertaining to regular routine as well as decisions regarding the Governor's Staff, office set-up, etc., were attended to. Press conference was scheduled at 2:15, at which tirae it was stated that this was a final conference to give reporters who had missed earlier conferences a chance to hear from medical team and to answer their questions. I introduced Carter Pannill, Assistant Dean, who in turn introduced Drs. Kemp Clark, M.T. Jenkins, Tom Shires and NJalcoln Perry to the group. Left the office Saturday night after having made arrangements for Bob Dutton to work nights and for the Administrator on call, Pete Geilich, to be at the office all day Sunday - told Pete that I would be in around 9 Sunday morning; however, Sunday morning, a little after 8 I called Pete and he said everything was fairly quiet and under control, so I told him that I was going to 9:45 service at church and would be in sometime around 11 o'clock. Got to' the office at 11:15 and was in the office talking to Pete when the phone rang. Pete turned and said, "Oswald's been shot and is on the way to Emergency." Time must have been about 11:25. Pete and I took off for the Emergency Room. KTien we got down there. Dr. Charles Crenshaw was in the corridor and said they had been alerted. He said, "You're not going to put him in the same room the President was in, are you?" Told him I surely was glad he had thought of it and by all means, not to. i^' '^ TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 34 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI- 265 V.'hen Oswald cai^^^ ^ v ^C^&Kv^of humanity, looked like floor to ceiling, came pouring after. The patient was followed by City Police officers, two of whom stopped at triage desk and with one of our guards held the reporters back. Hollered to Pete to go ask Bill Stinson for all the assistance they could give us - quick. I then hastened on into the Emergency Room area and tried to assist with helping unassigned personnel out as well as helping identify those who should be allowed to pass. The police, some of whom had helped cover check points Friday, quickly secured all entrances. Bill Stinson, some State troopers and Steve Landregan came in about this time and helped to clear the area. During this time Bill told Steve to get a list of all the people in the Emergency Room. He saw Bill Burrus of the Times Herald in a booth and told a state trooper to get him out. I left to .check the corridors and Pete hollered that he had set up press room in 101. Told him to get press up there and went up to triage area and hollered that a press room had been set up in 101 same as Friday. Went back into Emergency Room, they were getting ready to move patient to surgery. Nurse said please try to do something with press - as Oswald was moved out, yelled to Steve to get press off of our necks, that 101 was ready. Nurse yelled that elevator was standing by, patient and as many doctors as possible got on elevator. Stinson and Steve followed by crowd went upstairs. VJlien patient was in operating room went back to office. Mr. Maher was there and was pressed into service with press messages, helping with visitors, etc. Told Fayetta and NJrs. Reddick, who had TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 34 — Continued 266 heard news on radio and r e^ci^j^(^^ ^S^B "E'R tT ^ Holconb and Dutton in as soon as possible. As had happened Friday, the doctors kept messages cominf; to office. Pete and Geddis were dispatched to help inforiaation . visiting routine was cancelled and ti^ht security set up. A person was posted with each f;uard to help identify personnel and medical staff members. After Oswald had expired and the initial report of his death given by Dr. Shires, the doctors involved in treating Oswald came to . the office for conference regarding reports, etc. Several reouests were received for additional press releases so witli secretarial help from the Governor's office, press releases were prepared and Steve was instructed to relay information that one press conference with all the doctors involved would be held as on the preceeding day, that it would be a wind-up and final conference. Same doctors as on Saturday except for Dr. Clark held conference. /<• L^^Z^' J^ •- TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 34— Continued 267 mR.SECRE ! STATUS: Pvt. PARKLAND MEMORIAL Governor John Connally OPERATIVE RECORD 26 36 99 DATE: 11-22-63 Ortho RACE: \]/V. Pa'Sn o SI s:"^ ^'yfe-auted fracture of the richt distal radius, open secondary to gunshot womid SajTie - fi^-Ulshot WOimd gT ri^jht VJrist, BEGAN: OP£RATIOI-DQ ; y ;l -^01- -.g i-. t o ? i . , ; jgjQ ENDED: i65©- reduction of fracture of the radius AN ESTHETIC: General BEGAnI^OO ANESTHE-,^_OGIST:_Jii£S££ji Dr. Cliarles Gregory SURGEON: ASSISTANTS: _^ .APPLIANCES: SCRUB . CASTS/ SPLIN1 SPONGE COUNTS: 1ST . .V. Fl.UJ,DS AN D^ BLOOD ! 2nd. COMPLICATIONS: None CONDITION OF PATIENT: J^'air \^-Lii.u-^i Sl l'Ll:-'/'^ Tis^rrqp^ Clin Evaluation: tall under general anesthesia and'^ following a tho: Tfliile pair of the chest injury hy Dr. Robert Shaw, the right upper extremity was thoroughly prepped in the routine fashion after shaving. He v;as draped in the routine fashion using stockinette, the only addition was the use of a debridement pan. Tlie wound of entry on the ^or^alpS^Sjoect of the right wrist over the Junction of the distal fourth of the radius and Ih'aft was Approximately two en in length and rather oblique with the ioss.of tissue with °"-^?^- ^-^ some considerable contusion at the margins of it. Tliere v;as a ^"Jlong the volar s-orface of the wrist about two cm above the flexion crease of the wrist and in the midline. The wo-ond of entrance was careful?^ excised and developed through the r.iuscles and tendons P^roiTi thejgadial .side of that bone to the bone itself \:here the fracture was encountered. Its vias notid xnat tlT,e tendon of the abductor palrjaris^'^.A:e4x£^V;as transected, only two small fragments of bone ydsTl'emoved, one approximately one CTii iiV length and consisted of lateral cortex which lay free in the wound and had no soft tissue connections, another much smaller- fragr.-.ent perhaps 3 J'^a in length was subsequently removed. Small bits of metal were en- countered at various levels throughout the wound and these were wherever they were identi- fied and could be picked up were picked up and have been submitted to the Pathology de- partment for identification and examination. Throughout the wound ita'^a^'UBt'' and especially in the superficial layers and to some extent in the tendon and tendon sheaths on the rad- ial side of the arm :;r.;all fine bits of cloth consistant with fine bits of Mohair. It is oiir understanding that the. patient was wearing a Mohair suit at the time of the injury and this accounts for the deposition of such organic material within the wound. After as careful c.nd cor.plete a debridement as could be carried out and with an apparent integrity of the flexor tendons and the median nerve in the volar side, and after thorough irrigation the wound of exit on the volar surface of the wrist v;as closed primarily v/ith wire sutures while the wound of entrance on the radial side of the forearm irm }jas^only_ partially clo sed, was only partia] being left open for the purpose of drainage should any make spontaneous appearance. O&bl (continued) yQP CX^DKT^ Charles Grej§^ry, li.D. f^i^tr Price Exhibit No. 35 268 PARKLAND MEWORlJ|:0]p!T5(£^|Jg^ Governor Jolm Connally OPERATIVE RECORD # 26 36.99 22-63 Ortho • t'i lJiwc : /- DESCRIPTION OF OPERATION (Continued): -This is iMMlM^^s/tl the presence of liohair and organic i.iaterial deep into the wound which z prone to produce tissue reactions and to en- .. co'ara:;e infection and this precaution of not closing the wound was taken in correspondanoe with oui- experience in that regard. In view of the urgancy of the Governor's original fchest injuxy it was iLipossiole to definitely ascertain the status of the circulation £:/^ the nerve cu^jpiy to the hand and wrist on the right side. Accordingly, it was deteriiiined as best ve could at the tine of operation and. the radial artei-y was found to he intact and pulsating noiroally. The in- tegrity of, the nedian nerve and the ulnar nerve is not clearly established out it is pre- sumed to he present. Following closure of the volar wound and partial closure of the radial wound, drj^: sterile dressings were applied and a long arm cast was then applied with skin tape traction, ruoher hand variety, attached to the thuinh &index finger of the right hand, ^ke-yigh An attitude of fle::on was created at the right elhow, and post operatively the lixious suspended froK an overhead frame usingtape traction. The post opei-ative diag- nosis for the right forearm remains the same and again I suggest tliat you incorporate this particular dictation together with other dictations wliich will be given to you by the surgeons concerned with this patient. Chdrle 6/ OreQ/bry , fl.D. TOP SECRET Price Exhibit No. 35 — Continued 269 '««•«<"•'•»•••»•> \y FEDERAL BUREAU OF »_ „ „ ^_. 1 ^ , Roy A. Piyor „ Exhibit n«f« 12/10/63 ROY A. PRYOR, .?7l6 Hojove Drive, Dallas, Texas, who is etaployed as printer by xh-y "Dallas Times Herald", Dallas Siquare, advised as follows: ^ ^ ^ He stated that he has known JACK L. RUBY since 1950 and that during 1950 or 1951 he was employed by RUBY as a saxophone player in a band at the Silver Spur in Dallas which club was operated by RUBY, He; also worked from time to time as emcee and did some comedy work from time to time during the approximate one and one-half years he worked for RUBY. Other members of the band during this 4 ^-^c .v > time were CLAY ALLEN, guitar player, presently employed . ^ \ at Dewey's Longhorn Ranch, Dallas; JIMMY BELKIN, fiddle /: A player, present address unknown; GEORGE MC COY, steel guitar player, presently employed at. Dewey's Longhorn o A ^ Ranch, Dallas; and GENE CRAB, drummer, present address unknown PRYOR stated that he was awa;f from Dallas from 1957 until 1960 and had no contact with RUBY during this ^ .?• ^ i period and since returning to Dallas, he has seen RUBY ^ only eight or ten times. He stated that he does not recall hearing RUBY express any opinion concerning politics > . ., and never knew RUBY to carry a pistol. He stated that he considered RUBY to be a volartJils and unpredictable person who was quick to become angr^ and Just as quick to apologli*;^ for losing his temper. He stated he il-ecalls only one . ' occasion where RUBY resorted to violence as a result 'of his quick temper, that being sometime in 1951 at the Silver Spur when RUBY became angry at PRYOR and called him an uncomplimentary name. PRYOR asked him to apologize and when RUBY repeated the name PRYOR hit RUBY whereupon ' . RUBY then stated he was sorry for losing his temper but . ' almost in the same breath RUBY hit PRYOR in the eye with his fist. PRYOR Stated that he has never .seen RUBY with LEE HABVEY OSWALD and does not know OS^iLD. He added that he has never heard anything indicating that RUBY and OSWALD knew each other. PRYOR advised that the 1st time he talked with RDBY was about 4; 00 AM on November 247^1963, when RUBY en 12/&/63 o» Dallas. Texas FlU # DL 44-1639 ROBERT J. WILKISON and by Sptelol Ag,»tB EDMOND C. HARDIN - g1 D„„ dlctat.d 12/10/63 Thto deeaaaat .eoatolaa d«HIim rMoaBaadallona nor oeaolualena of the FBI. II la Iha propaHr o( Iba FBI and la loanad to yOTra««aer>ttmd lla eaalaBlaaraaal tabadlatriliulad oulalda rauaganer. / Pryor Exhibit No. 1 270 ~ Roy A. Pryor Exhibit 1 DL 44-1639 2 oame to th« composing room of the ••Tlmoa Herald" In regard© to an advertisement hd was placing or had placed in the newspaper reflecting that his places of. business would be closed for about three days. RUBY came over to him and talked with him ten or fifteen minutes at the beginning of which time RUBY stated, referring to the newspaper 'advertisement, "I got a scoop on 'em". RUBY also stated that he had been to City Hall where he had seen LEE HARVEY OSWALD in a police lineup. He added that OSWALD was "a little weasel of a guy". RUBY gave PRYOR the definite Impression that that was the first time that RUBY had ever seen OSWALD. He made no further mention of OSWALD until a few minutes later when he stated that he had been to a press conference given by HENRY WADE, the District Attorney, for the Press. He did not state exactly how he was able to be present at this press conference but this fact was not surprising to PRYOR who knew that RUBY was well known among the press and law enforcement officers, He stated that at one point when WADE was talking on the phone over long distance, WADE mentioned that OSWALD was associated with some sort of Cuban freedom committee whereupon RUBY corrected WADE and told him the correct name of the Cuban committee OSWALD was allegedly a member of. RUBY stated that he corrected WADE because he realized that the committee named by WADE was an anti- Cuban committee whereupon OSWALD'S committee was pro- Cuban. PRYOR Stated that he recalls that sometime during KlLla conversation with RUBY, the latter stated that he was close enough to OSWALD to touch him. This statement was made when RUBY mentioned that he had seen OSWALD at the lineup either before or after RUBY first mentioned having been to the lineup. PRYOR stated that he considers RUBY to be impulsive, unpredictable, highly emotional but added that he did not feel that RUBY would ever have committed ' mard«r under any olrcumstanc«i^ and was shocked to learn that RUBT killed OSWAU). / Pryor Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 271 ro-»o» (R.». I-J.S9) (^ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INYESTIC^ON EDWARD J. PULLMAN, 545U Anita, Dallas, Texas, was int^viewed since the name MARY RAY was found in connection with the search of JACK RUBY»« car. It is noted th4t Mr. PULLMAN'S wife sometines uses the name of MARY RAY. Mr, PULLMAN advised that his wife worked for JACK RUBY in approximately June to August, 1963. He -stated that she worked as a hostess in the. Carousel Club by helping JACK RUBY seat customers, and assisted him in other ways. Mr. PULLMAN informed that he personally is an "idea" man and an inventor but said that he got into the habit of going to the Carousel Club- at approximately 10;30 or 11" p.m. and waiting for his wife who would get off work after 1 a.m. ' .* He said that as a result of his going to the Carousel Club so oft^n he became quite friendly with JACK RUBY himself. He referred to RUBY as a "kookie guy" and said he meant by this tiat RUBY was erratic and highly emotional. He further said that RUBY thrives on trouble and often referred to himself as a "hungry operator." He stated that oftentimes while he was at the ciub there were numerous police officers who came into the club , but advised that he saw no indication that any of them were receiving any payoff or obtaining anything of value other than free coffee, and the -fact that they were not required to pay a cover charge if they saw part or all of the floor show. Mr. PULLMAN said that JACK RUBY made an effort to run a clean place. He stated that RUBY did not allow profanity and would throw a person out of the place if he became too drunk or abusive. Mr J PULLMAN said that so far as he knew, JACK RUBY cax>ried a gun only when he carried large sums of money* PULLMAN stated that he got the impression that RUBY was beginning to make a profit in his business at about the time that PULLMAN'S wife began working there. PULLMAN informed that his wife discontinued working for RUBY in approximately August, exact date not recalled, 1963. He said that this was done mainly because RUBY allowed practically every employee he had to "go into the cash register", and that his wife became somewhat discouraged when there would be questions raised as to the amount of money in the cash register. He said that there were never any accusations by RUBY^f his wife, but that was one of the main reasons she discontinued Vorking there. Pullman, Edward J. Exhibit 1 ^/< /<^;^ 12/13/63 Dallas, Texas PL Ut-1639 P^l^ ^ by Specie! A».nt JACK B. PEDEN:bnm "^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^,^^^^^^ ThU doenmaal eonlalaa nvtlhar rMoaaaadatloas nor eeaetaaleas of lh« FBI. II la the ptoptHr of lk« FBI mmt la leaaad ' Pullman Exhibit No. 1 272 PlKA.'AtS that hi va<> at l.^.e Texas Pro.-ii^cts Show in Dallas irfr.rrr.p.d = rir-v Kct».v.-:n ••'c- .-ror and Novcxb^r .:• ^ l.>;)3j a-d saw JACK KC^f . 1 Hs s^.d thi' pN'JiV At some of tha literature Mr, H„ L, KO>;T •.%'-!'; v?r3' ij.pset pd.iiinj; cut ar. hi.r. exhibit a" '.Ms iihov.'„ RUI-Y had picked up sord of this Mcttvre .ir.<1 ca-nt. to PCLUIAN ar.d was vp.ry upset about it. He seated trrat ' told bin- hc: was goin,;, to send som of the literature to Frnsiden*. ^E.VNEDY aiio to t. ?! so that the a'.ithorit les wo«ld know thft nature of che irdturc put :r by HUNT, Mr„ r-ULL?!aN i-nforr.-d that he believed the r^asor^ JACK RUBY she; Li'K HARVEY 07.WA.LD isthat KU^Y is a hij^hly cmc:lonai person and was probably ver^* i:p=et. at the tix^i he shot 03WAL0» PCJLIMW-" advised r.hat i/; one tinie. in either July or AugusT, 1963, JACK rUSY we-r to '.'sw York City, lie advised it is r.Is understanding RUSY we!^- th?:re re cor t-s,ct th?. Am-iric-in G'ii Li of Variety Artis-s about the use of anateuTs by cihGr- night club operators o PULU^a:.' said thit while RUBY was gor.c he, PL'LL'iANj wor>-ed at the rrlub and ir, effe::t ren the club for JACK RUBY./ Hr^ advised that Eii^Y was gone appror-cir.ately four or five days. ( PULL"' At: stated that h,^' c>. sura his wife has never seen LEE HARVEY O.^W.A! D^ to'.vh^tr. k?.oVicdg£, and hi:*'j'^-{p infor.-atior. about OSWALD. He further stdtai thi-f^iiiC had r.ever seen LlT'^iARVEY OSWALD, to his knowledge , and had no iP.foriiotion Indicating that R'JSY was acquainted with OSWALD. J?o^ ......,..C^./^^ Pullman Exhibit No. ' 1 —Continued 273 .•'., , ils.No.5071 PUm'i:/,J,A. Deposition— "Movcmbcr 26, 1963 "llr, J, E. Curry Chiol of Police Suffiday, Novenbor 24,. 1963 •Sir: "On S::r,day, Hov^sirsber 24,, 1963 at &ppTa-- , r ^., CO A.M., : Scr-jc^nt D.5a.n adviG©j2 V ica &«^ iiiir.d , :i:r) to _, ssQxch tfc-j l->3^3©2SS!3it p&rklng ffiTS'a' and im/. to aaoist ., hlra, I \;;'^.s vith Sergeaaf D^san wheali'S a,£c;>:.c-i:.6d cho offlcsrs at ©i.cb er.t.r&aco to tha area to be searcfciCd, Th© a33igr:ESi;ts were as iollowa: "S, C^ Kelson B&tucie^t 'i^Ir. fcr.jr.se FroB Police £s Courts Euil:'::,- R,-E« Vausha Kortb R:i..- ^- r,~ L'.^in Stre^st 3, G, Patterson S©:ut.fe R.':.; . Ccr^sorc© Strsot .A, R,- Brock El&v&tori -;^;c;- Eeservo Officer AsaigzjiSd toy Restorva Cj^pt&im Arr:ett|- Eatraaca Oa E^-j-iitl: I>id?» Frca Ecgine Roca "Sergeant Dsau' instructed the z.v.n on these posts"' to .refuse entrance to anyoae except properly idfeatifiad Police' Officers and Ejeiabors of the PreSi^, "After sacwrins tb;& area., Sc-r^',c.:i-:at r-AA-a ccatactcd Ilaservo Captciia Arnsfctj u.'j-O providr-=.d i;._v;r').-'.r,-'. .-ij-^ly t^^elve '""S) E«?..--i-rv« :: Policenea to &sn±Sit Mir, tyith t'..: " Officer L, E, Jez, ' . .Serc«5i^t Dean, Reserve Captai:^ . ,:yr-roxim;.tely twelvo (12) othsr r^sservo P.3licen!en i- -itod a search of all . vehicles s.nd all of the poasit;!^ ticiicj places ia the basecent parking area, a:^3isted S©r2«5ant Deaa by reajs-ininc in th© basensat and ''I the posts aa often as possible and also asking for - chczl-.ln.z idciitificcition of anyone in the baseiEant that I did not recos- nizo, a3 Police or Press Personnel* , Putnam Exhibit No. 5071 275 DL 44-1639 "Shortly after th© searcSi was comp letffld an umuarked police car occupied by two detectives dr©v® into tine bassememt, I cbecked the inside of their car. Following tMs car was a police patrol wagon, drivem by C. G, Lewia, B3 stopped the vehicle and I checked the cab and op©j:ied the rear doores of th© passenger compartmemt , I thsm assigaed Off icer- ff, E, Hibba, and Officer G, L, Tolbert to take a poaitiom at the bottom of th©' north ramp and instructed them to look into all vehicles that came into the basement. "At approximately 10; 45 A.M. Sergeant Dean called approximately, twelve (12) officers togethi^ that had been stanfJlmg by in th© basement and gave them traffic assigmBenta at each intersection tliat'th© prisoner was supposed to travel ©mroute "" to th© County' Jail. "At approximately 11:18 A.M. StKirgeaiiit Dean advised me to go with Lietutemint Pierce in his car and to get one. man to go with me. "I asked S©rgc?Bj2fc Maxey to com© withes and the three of us left the |jas©E©nt by th© Main Street rsamp, at approximately 11:20 A.M. -When w® arrived at the top of th® ramp I observed Officer R, E, the basement as w© left. ' Vaughn standing to li^y right. I did not 'see anyone come int^ > ' "W© went to the Commerce Street sid® of th© ramp and as w© ' ' stopped the car. Detective Reynolds ran from the basement beside the armored car and yelled to cover off th© Police • _^ and Coinrts'Biailding, Oswald had been shot. I assisted hia: temporarily, amd then retusrned to 'th®;Ll9:iitenant Pierce* s' car. _ . • "Respectfully submitted. /s/"Jame©-A. Pmitnam James A. Putnam S(d)rg@ant of Police Patrol Division Putnam Exhibit No. 5071 — Continued 276 ro-io: («.». j-i.»») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIG 'OH : JAMES A. PUTII.V'j Dallas, Texas, Police Departrr.e,-. . - ••;.: ; , rc:,i-,. Drive J Dallas ^ WaS cor.t acted and he v;as advisee :. ;_•: .:-:.". tjo'. h^vc ..i :i:.- -ithat any st'iter.icir.t he did make coulc :.c used sta-eir.r;nt J sgsir.sx hir. in a coi.rt of law, and that he could cc.isult ^-i attorney et any tiir.e ho desir'od. PUTNAM voluntarily advised as folicws: Ho knew of no K'egro caught in the basement of the Dallas City Hall clin-i>in^ over the tops of cars. He s-rated that in an interviavf conducted by Sp-ci,,! A:;:.r.-_3 of the r3I cr. Dc:cv-ber 3„ 1553^, he- Mentioned that v;hen LEE KARVJV ^y.:j-.^Z '..'as shot on Kovericr 24 1263^ Detective (FNU) REYKOLDS ran fron the basc-.er.': of j City Hall shouting thaf OSV.'ALD had be.,n shot and to "cover off the buiicir.;;." I-:e said he ran to the Karv.'ood Street entrance to City Hall and ir.orr.en-- la^cr saw a ::e:;ro, -.ale. r-nnir.g cov.-n the .-.all. He stopped this individual, cearehed hi- and tn.- eerne^ hir: over to 2etec-:ive riEVXOLDs" (s£:i^e REYNOLDS /7en-cicnec above). ?e7;.'.-.H sta-red since he had eo secure the Harv.'ood Street entrance ^ he did not ta^ca tir.e to 'ask this individual's na.T.e or why he vjas running. PUTNAM did- not know whether tMS above individual was arrested or released. Kx.lio.p"J72 POr;;;j.'.,J.A. Deposition, Dallas 3-24-6-4 ''•:' \ Filo #, DL -^^..-ISS* ovoncy; II and Us Putnam Exhibit No. 5072 277 awMMMoais W KD-iO! (Sov. 3-3-59) :)ERAL BUREAU OF iXV£ST!GA7!C I csrrisr 4, iOS; (1) s» Serjeant JAI.ES PUYIiAM, Dalle 'olice Doparxment , v/ho Daiias, 'i:^.y.JX. ictc-d ccr.ceming the ..'J on thts J.-; :;:r,bcr> 2^; 1963, at the ..- advised >. .•« TO iT.akfc a stateTT.cnt; .: hii.i iri a court of . , :.-- : desirod. P'J7.\'.-.;-: .-^.er^eant ?. i. L-."-:, Patro. - - r-i; of Lieutc-r.cr.t -. Sergeant D2A:: -..-ith a search of the of Daii^s t'cse~ifr:;t nrt-a Ht: =a-id that he^ Sergeant 2Efa>% Officer L. S- JE2, Rc-servs Capta: -•'i several other ur.:cr.ov;n rfcse:?ve ?o" ' " ' ~-r-a si-az-ched ;h«: b. . for any unauthorized pcrsor.s or :-. added that the- lich was completed at approxirr.i-.. un- secure. — Ha d'-J.' , dt2veiopi^.d not'i.; ..rid tho enrirc araa was ^t during the search cor.£ic_r_i o - ., scv'3"il .,„-i~--..j iriai"tenancfe enpi'--' - - . .o laave the basenent arsa. v;..ich -;..^y did. Serseant PUTN;vl a: o:. -cers in tne bascr.ent; securing the area v.v-^i ar.dchecking out any ur.idcutif ;.ea p. ;^ said to his knov;ledge no unauthorized person was located : durins that tir.e. He related that the foiiorfir,^ . . . assig.-ied to the positions listed below: R. K'SLSC:-: - baserient erji:rcjjjce f: Oil Police and Courts Building; C, S. E. VAUGHH - north ranp enirasice on Main Street; S. G. P.V:TERSO,\', south r-i-, (-v-:.t c- CoTT.ir.crce Street; - i A. R. BROCKj elcvaxcrs ^.. Sar^eant PUTIIAM advised .^. _. ~j . it 11:19 a-n. he received instructions fro:.-! Sergeant P- T, DE.-.M to ace aparjy Lieurenant PIERCE in his car \.hich was to lead the arrr.orad ca.-;, in v.h :;) OSV.'ALv v.'ds to be placed, to ths County Jail. Sergeant ?iJ7ilhA aod-ad ch-t •;c and Li..:,-anant PIERCE were accon:panied by Sergeant XiiXEY, At appro^:ii7iatciiy 11; 20 a-7i„ Li ;.':- car left via tha <'/V" Main Street exit, where Officer k. £. V.^v.-.." turned left j^S-y^^ by Spcciil .....3 f Ex. No. 5073 PUT1^,1,J.A. Deposition. Dallas 3-'24-6A Putnam Exhibit No. 5073 278 DL '+'+-1539 (2) on Mcair. Sti'-cetj -her. left on Harwood, thon left on Commerce to tha Comir.orce Street rarr.p. Ir.rr., dia ;ciy wpon arriving :hercj .^t abcu': llsl'l a.m. or> 11:22 a.m.. Detective (FX'U) :-i'Vi\'OLDS rdn ont oi ';he tvi.'-'jr.'Cirit shouting that OSV?ALD h£d been shot cJid to "cover off th«; buildi-.^g." Stcrgo.-iiit PUTNAM said he got out of the car and vcs\ to s^-cure the Harwood Svreer entrancs to City Hall. Moments after securing that cntraiice, Scrgear.i P'jTNAi'I r.aw a Negro, ir.ai^ j running down the hail. Sergeant PUTNAM ateppod into the hail, stopped this individual, searched hin, and then turned him over to Detective Rr:YWOLD.S {same REYNOLDS mentioned above). Sergeant PUTNAM said since he had to returxi to the Hasi/ood Street entrance, he did not take the time to ask this indivicujl''s uan-e or. why he was running. From the- time Sergeant PUTK'AM capartod frcT, tha Main Street exit at approximately 11:20 a.m. until shortly .;^-. or OSV.'ALD was shot, he gave the following precise account of his n-.o^emt- .vti. a.id ohiiervations Sorgear.xs PUTNAM and MAXPTY accc;-,v,ai;,i»;d Lieutenant PIERCE in PIERCE's car which left the bds<3r,iE;r>t arv^s at app^o-imatcly lis20 a.m. Lieutenant PIERCE driving, Sergeant PUTNAM occupied the front seat x PUTNAM added that RUBY was not among -the croyd at that tine or at any tine while ho "was on duty in the basement, to the best of his ' t ;v. knowledge. - , ' r. PUTNAM estimated- that Qt approxinatcly 11; 20 aon. there were about 75 persons in the basement -Tamp and lobby, Ke estinated there were soDO 35 or ^Q Police Officers- and all others were rcprescritativeo of tho - press J radio end television. - '^ " <' *< ' Ke cdvised ho knew of no association between RUDY ond OS'JALD. Ha stated he did not know 'OSWALD and never had any contact .with him« ' C (lo^ Putnam Exhibit No. 5073 —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 20 ^81 DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE UL TER OR AOENCT EMPLOTEF JOB TITLE Oil PURPOSE 'A' ^ REIfARKS 4^ rF O I H I 1. PRINT last' name r. /.}} 2. NUMBER AND BTREET ADDRESS, R.D. OR P. O. BOX I ^^ STAi ZONE DAtE OF BIRTH IMPORTANT CIVILIAN AND MILITARY EXPERIENCE LONGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT iOBS. BEGIN WITH YOUi / k^LK NAME JOB AND DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID AND HOW TOU DID IT /^^c^-^ EMPLOYER'S BUSINESS '^ /v//>/-^, .7 ^^r /) '-if: -2^ >' /'///^ TY/'cr- Vv'V^> jnyf-rj /r/i/. /^/^,y^7' /Jy^r:yoc zii_ /^//// <<^^: 7^- > EilPLOTER OR BRANCH OF MILITARY SERVICE TOU Diar AND HOW YOU DID IT . -^' /y • I , i^A',^.; -^/,;VX-' /y.-y^-' />.K :'^/ MOS. ON JOB A^' ^t^y/Zj-,:)/ y>V'^ LJ^SCzii- EMPLOYER OR BR.\NCH OP MILITARY i /-('g' r-/i///v '6-ic <^. NAME JOB AND DaS(CRIBE EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID AND HOW YOU DID IT ^ c/s. /V-C EMPLOYER'S BUSINESS c^ /,r c. ^- /? rj^rj /- -.V /• /-- v/7/^Va/ / 'c /?/^J/J X 'Vr /-v/ 7.-v-r vT YRS. or MOS. ON JOB I DATE LEFT rER OH BRANCH OF MILITARY SERVICE NAME JOB AND XACTLY WHAT YOU DID AND HOW YOU DID IT EMPLOYER'S MOS. ON JOB I DATE LEFT 17. SUMMARY OF OTHER WORK EXPERIENCE (OIVE JOB TITLE. DURATION AND DATE ENDED) DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE CALLED IMPORTANT CIVILIAN AND MILITARY EXPERIENCE lOUB LONGBST AND MOST IMPORTANT JOBS. BEGIN WITH YOPR MOST RECgNT JOB. NAME JOB AND DE.SCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT TOU DID AND HOW YOU DID IT Jagt^' IxEC Fhotoprapher Coirrni. ^2? --'rowder, Dalla.s, J'exas. Develooinr and taking of film negatives, BMPLOT ER'S BUSINESS printing photofe from tnem enlarging proto's e to, M&^ ON JOB I I ^ Anr ,y SERVICE NAME JOB AND DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT Ship:.-ing r,]p rk-^j^s clerk in ' r and n ia iling DID AND HOW YOU DID IT t ock — Vacek, St. Ft. Worth, Tex department-filling out bills of lading - BMFLOTER'S BUSINESS receiving of goods, etc. Ventilator Co. rRS. or MOS. ON JOB NAME EMPLOYER \JMnh\^&^^ ::R OR BR.\NCH OF MILITART SERVICE ( AND Ui;:SUK.liJtJ NAME JOB AINU iSAMt; EXACTLY WHAT DESCRIBE iiiAAtJlL-I WHAl TOU XUU uiu DID j\k^Lj HOW TOU AND nuv» iwu DID IT S. ''\ Ca. Radar Operator-AtL ended electron o radar " 'alifornia operators set ool-says not qualified for_ IMPLOTER'S BUSINESS Civilian job. YRS. or MOS. ON . DATE LEFT H/ilE EMPLOYER OR BRANCH OF MILITARY SERVICE NAME JOB AND DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID AND HOW YOU DID IT BMPLOYER'S BUSINESS TRe. or MOS. ON . DATE LEFT SUMMARY OF OTHER WORK EXPERIENCE (ai\'E JOB TITLE. DURATION AND DATE BiNDED) DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LIXE PICIAL INFORMATION DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE PRINT LAST FIRST 4. SOC. SEC. NO. TITLES Oswald, Lee li33-5U-3937 Shipping Clerk l- 3l4.li^ "number and TI LEPHONE NO. "hotographer, Comxi,ercial 0-56.11 757 ? nch -^t,re' : -U326 POSTAL ZONB New Orleans, i-a SKILLS. KNOWLEDGE, ABILITIES 6. DATE OF BlUTH a MARRIED O SINGLE 5 9 1U5 10 18 39 WIDOWF.D IFVE TERAN. ENT ER YOUR LAST M ILITA RY SERV ICE ENTRY ON ACTIVE TEST RESULTS DATE SERVICE 12 13 M 16 IF UNION MEMBER. GIVE NUMBER. NAME AND AFFILIATION OF LOCAL IPLETED AND GIVE COLLEGE Rachal Exhibit No. 3 Additional Application Card— LSES 612 7-i IMPORTANT CIVILIAN AND MILITARY EXPERIENCE DESCRIBE YOUR LONGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT JOBS. BEGIN WITH YOUR MOST RECENT JOB 13. NAME EMPLOYER OB BRANCH OF MILITARY SERVICE T.r.v-ri-Pak Co. Aus^ist 8, 1962 Raigorodsky Exhibit No. 9 [Ir. Georgo de MohreaachUdt (l639-^ Republic National Banlc Bldg. Dallas Dallas 1, Texas) Dear Var, de MobrenscMldt i I aa afi-aid I have not been able to generate any interest on the part of xay friend. I am very sorry. I am glad that this gave me the opportunity to meet you and I want to express again my apologies for having given you oo lit- tle time vhen you had taken the" trouble to come all the way from Dallas to see ma. With best wishes. Yours sincerely. John dd Mgnil Jdl4;cp bcc: Mr. Paul Raigorodsky Dictated by Mr» da Meall ove?? tha telephone fraa Nev York. Raigorodsky Exhibit No. 287 ^p AueuBt 27, 1962 Raigorodsky Exhibit No. 10b Mr, Oeorge de Mohrensohildt Dallas Dear Mr. de Mohreiisohildt, Your letter of August 7 reaohes me with a delay for whioh I apologizQ but which is duo to my being on vacation in Europe, with some unscheduled travelliiig, which left ray mail piling up behind. I am glad to hear that your plans are taking shape and that substantial commitments are in hand. I am 8uz*e that you will soon have completed your slate of participants and get Curtis Lee airborne. Thank you for your kind offer that I personnally become a stockholder. I am afraid I cannot entertain it beoavise of some istrange Implloationa of the proposed nevr tax law. With boat wishes^ '.:•;.- yovtrs ainoerely. John d« M^nil JdM/mv ''' - oc,: Paul Raigorodski Raigorodsky Exhibit No. 10-B 289 ^otcl ^an0 Poutl June 6, 1963 Raigorodsky Exhibit No. 11 Mr. Paul M. Raigorodsky 522 First National Bank Building, Dallas, Texas, U.S.A. Dear Pauli It'H delightfully pleasant and quiet here. Such a relief after Now York, Mi .".mi and ovon Dallas. I im working on my maps and Jeanne swims and looks for a suitable house. The weather is naturally delightful and the scenery lovely. We are staying at the Hotel Sane Souoi, which is a jewel - • marvelously comfortable and the food here is just fabulous. Do oome over to visit ua either now or very soon when we are installed in our new house. Write C/O j "BANQUE COMERCIALE D' HAITI" AlUf] Rue du Centre I }3Q^ Port-au-Prince - Haiti. Or C/o I American Embassy. As you know ffom the papers, the relationship between Haiti and our country is fine again. With beet personal regards to all our mutual friends, Hau'.ouodsky KxiuniT No. 11 7 30-2 0-/f/^f/^ •jOUAnE FINISH HALFTONE ^rU LM)0 / ..-' XV / y . .y y:^ ' y:.y /-V / -7 y:^ . '^^/^ ^-' Rotcororicky Exhibit No. I.la _ //) VIA AIR MAIL . y\ /.y yy ziry /.y z::.^ z.v' z. -v' /: -y /:y7 /zr i-nr >' 'z:y jc-7 /i::v xz:/ \ r/rrt.''A'i^':^'7';J ( 'I « yciy /r-y /J yz:/ / / / yr /-.y /yj ysy yyj >^ Raicoroijsky Exiiikit No. 11-A 291 hBiB)J Raigorodsl^ E>Jii // /;f. '/y Raigorodsky Exhibit No. 14 I I I /h>^ yRACouET & Tennis Club , r/o/c^ y^ec^r na-^Y: -^/'/>y Raigokodsky Exhibit No. 14-A 292 rD.302 (R.r. 3.3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dot. Dgc-tnbsr 4, 1963 1 BILLIE A. BAY Advsrtisir.g silesrrar., Dallas "Mbrning J, News," homo addrses 157 Arbor Lar.s, I^sr^caster, Ts^xas, tslsphone number 221-5233p fura;i3h«d th^' folloving Information: On Hovey.ber 22^, 1963i, th* date of the assasslRation of President KSINEDY5 RAY had riVUTrj-.^d froa: lur.ch and had been In the offio* for approxin5,t;*.iy 10 niinutc^s wh.^^2 or.^s of the boys in th« office ran In ax;d r*KiArkA,i th.'iit Preaidant KENNEDY had been shot, BAY recalls sceii-^g JACK RUBY sitting In DON CAMPBELL'S chrsir which chAlr Is directly ±n fror^t of th« desk of Miss GEORGIA MAYOR. At th« tlm* RAY :aotic®d RUBY^, RTJBY was facing away frosi th« wlMow of th*; building. It is not visiusual in RAY 'a opinioJJ for RUEY to ba where h*? waa slsice he has been around' the offlc® for so loKg a period of tisia doisig business. RAY furth'sr r^calle^d B*«iMg JACK RUBY r.ear a sciall TV set in th« office llstsnlKg to the details of the Prssidont's aasassination. JACK RUBY hid a very strange lookxiDn his face at that time assd aeemed to star® without conprehending the , events. Reilly Exhibit A 294 OSCAR A. KISTLE AOItAMCHTO 14* OALiraNNIA Qi^ October 25, 1963 ^1 i^ ^ %^ TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: Commencing July 12, I963, and subsequent thereto, this "^ office had occasion to use the services of Nancy Perrin in ^ the matter of investigating and prosecuting an abortion case, v^\ Nancy Perrin gave the utmost cooperation to this office and 'is the Oakland Police Department in the processing of this case -<^ and was very instrumental in bringing the matter to a t successful conclusion. Nancy Perrin used excellent Judgment ^ , in conducting her phase of the investigation and handled herself in the manner of an experienced investigator. She was a very effective witness on behalf of the prosecution. Based upon the above, it is the Impression of the undersigned that Nancy Perrin has the qualifications and desire to be a success in the investigative field wherever, her services can be used. I. OSCAR A.- KISTLE Chief Deputy District Attorney OAK/pl _Jl)c.No.l RICH,PERRIN, Nancy Depositiao Wjshington, D. G. 6-2-6-4 Rich Exhibit No. 1 ei-... 295 o g -^ _£x.No.2 RICH, PErdlLM/ Nancy Denosixion Wasnington, D. C. 6-2-6/ — Rich Exhibit No. 2 296 I DEHTI r ICATl OH (,-OR USt IN PAWNSHOfS. StCOND.HANO. BU Wv^ /^-i.^.^ /du '/C J RICH, Perrin,Nancy Depositioxi Ex. No .4 Washington, D. C. 6-2-64 Rich Exhibit No. 4 298 FD.302 (B.». 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1 Dot. 11/28/63 MARGIE NORMAN ETHIER, who resides at 2215 ,' ^\ Cunningham. Irving, Texas, was Interviewed at the Carousel Club, 1312^ Commerc« Street, at which time she furnished the following information: Mrs. ETHIER has been working at the Carousel Club since sometime in June as a waitress. She first rjetJACK RUBY several years ago through her sister, JANICE JONES, who worked for RUBY as a cocktail waitress. Mrs. ETHIER described RUBY as- an excellent, friendly boss who was always ready to offer a helping hand to his employees who were in financial difficulty. She last saw JACK RUBY on Thursday evening, November 21, 1963, at the Carousel Club and talked to him sometime around noon on Saturday, November 23, 1963, on the telephone concerning whether or not the club was going to open on Saturday night. RUBY during this conversation seemed to be completely broken up over the death of President KENNEDY. Mrs. ETHIER was exhibited a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD at which time she advised that OSWALD was unknown to her, and she was positive that he had not been in the Carousel Club. She stated that she worked seven nights a week as a waitress, and she feels quite certain that she would have reraembere l-l-$«> FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION n„>. 12/4/63 WARREN E. RITCHEY, Engineer, WRAP -TV, Fort Worrh, Texas, advised that his home address is 1600 Grantland Circle. RITCHEY advised he has worked for WBAP-TV for ^^, thirteen years. He furnished the following information: RITCHEY advised that on Sunday, November 24, ^ 1963, he was the WBAP-TV cameraman stationed on the outside^, camera on the Commerce Street side of the Dallas Police ^ Department. Q RITCHEY said further he had his camera set on top of a mobile unit and the mobile unit was parked next f to the curb, facing east, about .twenty-five feet from the Mi ramp entrance to the basement of the Police Department. || RITCHEY said he and his crew set up at this point 'V< between 7:30 and 8:00 AM. RITCHEY said no person helped him set up his camera; however, he recalled seeing a person, whom he now knows to be JACK RUBY or JACK RUBENSTEIN, walking on the sidewalk on the Commerce Street side of the Police Department at about 9:00 AM. He said he did not see anyone with this person; that this man was alone and that, actually, he did not pay any attention to the individual at the time. RITCHEY said he does recall RUBY at one time, exact time not recalled, but before the shooting of OSWALD, walking up to the television truck and talking to someone in the truck on which his camera was located. RITCHEY advised that JOHN SMITH and I. N. WALKER were the two other WBAP-TV employees in the television truck at the time. RITCHEY said he had no other information con- cerning this matter. Richey Exhibit No. 5316 12/4/63 Fort Worth, Texas FiU # PL 4401639 by Sp.ciol Afl.ntS EARLE HALEY & ROPT.EY D. MADLANPpof dictat.d 12/4/63 eah '^/ > ThU deciim«Bl iebnlaln* nalthcr racommsndallon* nor eonoloalona ol Iha FBI; It la Iha pf9C'*^IF 81 Iha FBI and la loaned I Richey (Warren E.) Exhibit No. 5316 300 SIOS-IN SHEET DATE /• fORTijRS 4 MAIDS SICK OPT PEKVIS ASHL2Y ILLIE ATKINS ^m RICHARD C. BARSETT OSCHGS BEAIR2 MILTON BERRY .Jri' .h' // n^' y AM' ROBERT BRITTON IVORY BROWH TOKIY CARTc WTATT COTTON BIFFORD CURL JOHNNY FLOYD KAE irflLLIS GERALD EDNA M. HANDSOME SARAS HENDERSON WALTER HOLLAND 'Wm- ^>9' EDWARD HORSLEY CHATI'UN JOHNSON JOHN H. JOHIiSCN :2i^ //.^.^^-^vr K.iBEL JCHKSON ;ASET JOHNSON rHEODORE JOKES :D«'AKD KELLY -^7^ "] A '^1 «LLI£ KING MARY JANE LOVE 'u. D. MACKEY R. C. MASON JULIUS MCFARLAND LOUIS KCKEN^IE BENNIE C. KILES WILLIE MOSS ; /^/^A A A,AA tok;-:y wil:la reed ne«sok ~r7v \ 1/ r^' . JIK E. REYN TRAVIS WALLACE JAKES w;SST OPERLEA>i VORLEY RiGGS Exhibit No. 5128 301 SICKilK SHEIT DATE^ /;/ .^ // :z > - ^3 PORTERS 4 U19^ -" <'" 7 L-yi ASHLEY 'pSaVIS AiHLSY R^TT -' :szis: /. A-y^ rOmSY CARTEH T^7-T \-Z'xO^-^^; B£ULA£ y.. DUNCAM JULIA M. FLO«-ERS .ILLIi GiHiLa FHiJB KA.-iPER 5AHAJi EajIBERSCN SALTER HOLLAND EDr^ARD HOHSLSY CKATi-UN JCE.N30N JOHN H. J0HH3CN V'^ :GAF.ET JGHN30H THEOSCEi; JONES i;l)WAK2 KELLY fjiRY JAiiE LOVE JULinS KCFARLAND tflLKA REED :^ Jkx.No.5128-A RIGGS,Alfreadia Depositiqa Dallas -i-1-6-; a. e_u.-.<-c.^i/ - RiGGS Exhibit No. 5128-A 302 H! ..'. I.. I— COMMERCE ST. RiGGS Exhibit No. 5129 303 FD.30J (H.v. 3-3.5»; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date __L2iilX&J ALFREADIA RIGGS, 2 010 North Pearl Street, Dallas, -^ . Texas, who is a porter in the basement of the Municipal V ~ "^ Building and the Police and Courts Building, furnished the ^ > \ following information: -^vJ > '~ m .^ '' RIGGS was the basement on November 24, 1953, the ^ ^ : day LEE KARVEY OSWALD was shot. He was there with ^"^ t approximately five or six other persons These persons o Q <<:; •' are all believed to be employed in the two buildings He ^ o • stated he was with JOHN 0, SERVANCE, head night porter in C ,.^ the basement! LEWIS MC KINZIE, who operates the elevator /vs 'v_ i^ on the east end of the basement on occasion and who is also ">• .'•" a porter; a young man last name KELLY; a man named either { ^ ~^ PIERCE or PEARSON, who is a maintenance man; a telephone - '^ operator, who works on the fifth floor of the Municipal ^'^ ^ J' Building, but whose name he does not know; and HAROLD V FUGUAo S^' V•/ , '^ This group was standing near the elevator located '^^ on the east end of the basement and RIGGS was hooing to • ^-^ see LEE HARVEY OSWALD transferred from the City Police v.'i^-- Department to the. Dallas County Jail. ^;^!, "^ He observed quite a few police officers searching the basement area. He observed them searching closets, .^/^ over the rafters and in the various cars in the basement. V-- While this group was in the basement, waiting-, one of the officers came over and told them they would have to leave. They got on the elevator and went to tbo first floor of the Municipal Building. RIGGS and possibly all the other members of the group stood near the Commerce Street door of the first floor of the Municipal Building to observe when OSWALD was brought out on the Commerce Street ramp of the basement. After two armored cars appeared on the scene, RIGGS decided that they would not get to see OSWALD and therefore he and HAROLD FUGUA decided to go to the Dallas Police Department locker room and watch the ''^' transfer on TV. RIGGS and FUGUA went out the bav^'x door of the _£x.No.5130 RIGGS,Alfreadia Depositioa Dallas -4-1-6A 3 2/11/6 3 „» Dallas, Texas by Spociol Ag-nt JACK R„ PKDEN ^ (t^ ^^^^ dictated 12/11/63 RiGGS Exhibit No. 5130 304 DL ^4-1639 _2. Municipip^-^Building and Jient through an alley to Main Strefet.x From Main' Street they went to Harwood Street. While going up Main Street to Harwood Street, they passed the Main Street ramp which leads from Main Street down into the basement of the Police Department. RIGGS recalls seeing some people near the ramp but he has only the vaguest recollection of it. He does not recall how many persons there were, either officers or civilians. He does not. reball seeing any individual he could identify. RIGGS and FUGUA went to the basement below the Police Department from the Harwood Street entrance. They went to the Police locker room and were told there by a man who was a civilian employee of the Police Department that he did not believe the transfer would be immediately shown on TV.' This man works in the office of the jail of the Police Department and was eating his lunch at the time. RIGGS and FUGUA then left the locker room and came to the hall by the Records Section which is also near the lobby and exit into the basement area where OSWALD was to be moved. RIGGS actually saw OSWALD only briefly as he was taken from the elevator out into the ram)p area. He heard the shot fired by JACK RUBY which killed LEE HARVEY OSWALD. In the lobby leading to the ramp area, there are double doors closing off the ramp area from the lobby,.:: area. RIGGS does not recall seeing any officers there but -stated there could have been officers. After the shooting, he and FUGUA backed away from the lobby area and stood closer to the Records Section. He did not immediately return to the basement area after he and FUGUA. left. RIGGS stated that he Was not challenged between the time he left the locker room and while he was waiting in the area of the Records Section and the lobby, but he said he and FUGUA madeno effort to go to the ramp area where he feels sure he would have been challenged, RIGGS pointed out that he has been a porter in the basement for a long period of time and he is sure most of the police officers know f>f him on sight. • C ^^. . . RiGGs Exhibit No. 5130— Continued 305 ilovcx^cr 22, 1963 Robertson Exhibit No. 1 >.;ocial i-'crvico ButcaU \ Or. :^yvi::.bc:r 22, 1963, at ;ip;.jro;cLT.-.tol7 2j50?K, tlv: xir.dei'ci^;ncd ofriccr :..ct Special /i^:er.t Jacn I'or.ty or tho i'cUcrol iiurciU of InvcctiCt'-'^ior. ir. t;-.e or thu City V.iAl, bac<.-..cr.t :.z th-i ti.-.-iO SpociiJ. .'<:ont Iloaty r.-latcii to this ofriccr fr-'it tiio Subject \ -..-c ;..c.-.b^r or tl'.o Co::;:;iUru.iit Forty, asid that ho \ics rcilciir;^ in D:JLlis, ii. ;ct ;%i^ arrcGtcd for tho x-^ardor o£ Cfrioor J.D, Tippit aril is fi. :r.cct in tho GGSiLScinrition or Prcsidout Kennedy, .c-ticn ro^c'jTdii^ tha L^ubjcct's c^xili^ition \-lth tho Cc::.,uni£.-t / iio ririst inTon-ution this ofriccr hcs received froa tho 7cdcr^l ^ ' Invcsti^^i^tion rot^iLi-diii^; sozio, fiirthcr stated that tho Fcder J. Bureau o£ Invecti^o-tion vds ^ .Mra or tho Subject i^nd thit they tod iafon-j^tion thct this Subject V l;lo or coi:::ittia-:2 't-^c a5sa,ssij;a,tion of Prcsideiit Keuiicdy, Rc.apccti\LLly subrj.tt.cd, jkcl< Itovill, liouten.uat I \^4.iAz32.1 IntallLsonco Section X) if/rM^-^~%-^ Robertson (Mary J.) Exhibit No. 1 306 Bobfertson Exhibit No. 2 tovofflbojp 22, 1963 . . . Ca?t£dn W.P, Cajwiaway \ SUBJECT t Leo Harvoy Oswald u.\ /^ ' Sir* ' ^ v;\^ Oa Koveobor 22, 1963, at approxunatoly 2:50PM, the undorsigned officer ^^ -^ '*<^' Bot Special Acont Jamos Hosty of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the basement of the City Hall. ' \ ,At that time Special A(;cnt Hosty related to this officer that the Subject ^. . Vas a aeaober of the Conununist Party, and that he was residing in Dallas, *^ . . Tne Subject was arrested for the murdor of Officer J.D. Uppit and is 6 y^ v prime siispoct in the assassination of President Kennedy* r \ The ixvfonnation regarding tho Subject's affiliation with the Cocsnunist ^. v Party is the first information this officer has received froa the Fodoral 'j^ Bureau of Investigation regarding same. AgoxxtKosty further stated that tho 'Federal Bureau of Investigation vas award of tho Subject and that th^ had infonna^ion that this Subject . vaA capablo oX conanltting the assassination of President Konnedy* Respectfully submitted. ick Rovill; Ileutenaxtt Clrinlnal Intelligence Sectioa Sworn to and subscribed beforo m«, this the 7th day of April, 19^. ;• iKAKC£$aoa Notoryi Dallas County, Dallas^ Texas Robertson (Maby J.) Exhibit No. 2 307 Robertson Exhibit No. Itovecbcr XI, 1963 Captain \..P. C:uiiawoy L^jccial Lcrvico Dut-jc^u SUDJIXTi Leo llr-rvey Omvald 605 JJxbcth itrt'jt Eii't On Jtovc.nbcr 22, 1963, at approxiic^tolv 2i50?K, th».' iL-ziorcicnod officor wet coiul rV.cr.t Ja ec Hod/ of the r<^<\OT.>l L'ui-c.aU of Iiivv.etii:atlon in 1-.; tiie bacu.Cot of tho City llali. At th-^t, tir^G Ljxjcial A.::ent Ilooty r.dutcU to thiG officor that tho Subject w.^s a ;.Ci;.b^ of tho Con:::uxjiat furty, .itxi tiv-.t he wao reiicinj in Dcdlao, "no Cubject waa arrcctcd for tlio taarvier of Cfficor J.P, Tippit and ia a prix;« cuopootin tho aeiiasoination of proaicoiit fjonrnxiy, TJio infor/K.tion re^.-irc'lr^ tha J-ubjcct'c aTfili^tion *ri.th tho Coci.uniat Pcrty iu the firat infor. -tlon t:U.o ofiicor has rccoiViiiU froa tho FoUor^JL »>iii-oiiU of Lnvostio'^tion rcgiij uii^^ B;i»j. /^tij-it Itocty IXyrther ct-.tt;ii that tho rodcr.l Bureau of lnvosti<:;.-=tion VKiS Gw-ro of tho Suujoct iuid ti-.at tiv;y rwu iiuon-'i.tion that this Gubjoct Wo* Cijjabia of ooodttifiii V.\a a6SiASJiiivj.tion of PjreoidGrit KoniiOtly. Rpamjctfully ouuittod. aclc iiovill, lioutor»;.«t drii.iikil IiitflUiS'^-noo Section ^f' Ih 0'\ Robertson (Mary J.) Exhibit No. 3 308 rDooj(R...,.i.4g) Ck^^ j , FEDERAL BliR&^^qJ^l^s(\^STlGAT10N ;^ /'v.ltA./U^-' :/:y^^^'^' ^, .^-^i '1 ^ : ' H/lfy^^ ' Dato 1/20/64 r / _VICTOR_ROBERTSON, Reporter, WFAA-Radio and Tolovisioa, - - ; Dallas, Texas, ro'si'donc'o'"S018 Tromoat, Dallas, £urnishod the following iniormatlon: • On November 22, 19S3, ROBERTSON was covering the Presidential Parade in dov/ntown Dallas and at the tipo of .the assassination of President KENNEDY, ROBERTSON was in a phone ^ • booth in the Adolphus Hotel talking to JOHN ALLEN at Station V/FAA.' V/hile talking to ALLEN, ALLEN suddenly :.:.. roaarked Vho's been hit" and left the phone. ROBERTSON stated he immediately started running- toward' Houston Street ' . as he assumed the Presidential party had probably reached- •this area at the time he placed-, the call to ALLEN. V/hea . he arrived at Houston Street the President had already been taken to the hospital. 7,';-.il6 at Houston Street with HUGH AYNESV/ORTH, a VfiFAA photographer, ho heard on a police . radio that Officer TIPPIT had been shot in Oak Cliff and ho . •and AYNESWOETH proceeded to Oak Cliff. TIPPIT had already been removed from the vicinity of the shooting so they • proceeded to the Texas Theater in Oak Cliff whoxo LES ' HARVEY OSWALD was apprehended by Dallas policenoa..- ROBERTSON then wont to the Dallas Police Station and was there until approximacQly 2:30 Ai^ on the morning ' of Kovenber 23, 1933. Ke recalls seeing JACK RUBY in the - third floor hallway of the Police Building sometime possibly between 5:00 and 7:00 PU on November 22, 19S3 RL-BY had . • started, in the door of tho Robbery and Homocide Division and two police officers pulled him back and did not allow hla to enter. •' ROBERTSON was off duty on November 23, 1963. " On November 24, 1963, ROBERTSON was at V/PAA-Radio Station from 6:30 to 1:30 Pil. m He was in the Vn?"AA • . news room listening to the police radio at the time JACK .RUBY shot LEE HARVEY OSWALD in the basement- of the Police Building. Immediately after the shooting he recalls hearing a police officer in the basement mako a statement to the effect that JACK RUBY was tho inc:,vic:ual that had shot OSWALD. -At that time, ROBERT' 7/ ALIC^.:., -v'cws Director, V.TAA-TV, was. making a telecast of the pro^„-^ dings at the Dallas Police Building. ROBERT SON rocrJ/ --d that after .. Robertson, Vic Exhibit 1 on 1/17/64 ot V-DrtHas, Texas Fil» // PL C4-lb^-j , :>y Spociol Aflont PAUL L'. SCQTT - g,1 \ Hnt^ A-.r-r^t^A 1/lS/o-l • • .. ' y£? concluaion* ol Iha TBI. It la tha pra9«rty e< lb* FBI and la loanod lo _ RoBEKTSON (Victor) Exhibit No. 1 309 DL 44-1639 2 hoarins the polico officer idoatif 7 JACK RUBY as tho ' ' . . individual who shot LEE KARVEY OSWALD, ho had vritton tho nano JACK RUBY on a pioco of papor and it was taken into WALKER by CHUCK BUTT, JR. Thoroaftor, V/.^LISR announced on his telecast that JACK RUBY was tho individual who had shot 0ST7ALD. ROBERTSON Stated V/ALIfflR aay havo assuaod that ho the Polico Station at tho tiao ho identified RUBY as •.Was at individual v/ho shot OSWALD, howover, ho \7a3 not at t'lo tno Polico Station and had aado the identification after hearing tho polico officer identify RUBY on tho police radio, At about 1:30 PlI, on Xovoabor 24, 1963, ROBERTSON; wont to tho Police Station and was thero until approiciaatoly midnight. While at the Station, he talked to a number of people to obtain their cosraonts as to why JACK, RUBY had shot OSV/ALD. Ho does not recall tho idoutitios of thoso pooplo although some may havo boon polico officoro. Ho recalls souoono uontionins that RUBY had cotton into tho •Police Building basonont v/ith' a crow of WBAP-TV camoraao'a. "Ee. does not recall who said this or whoro thoy received 'this inforaatioa. ROBERTSON stated ho had no knc-.vlodgo of security moasuros taken at tho Police Station on ilovonbor 24,' 1SS3, or does he havo any knowlodgo as to how JACK RUBY antcfod ' •' the Polico Building basouont prior to shooting LEE HARVEY ' OSWALD. ^ ROBERTSON has known JACK RUBY for appro:-:iuatGly two 50 ars as operator of the Carousal Club on Cccnorco Stroot, Dallas. Ho mot RUBY through ITJRPHY liARTIN, n former reporter with WTAA v;ho, at that time v/as dating a girl omployod at tho Caroucsl Club. During tho 'two years ROBERTSON know RUBY, he OOZ'z: ' at tho Carousel 1: Club approximately si:: t-.:.'...:. :rossod hin; as :.u excitable and high tomperci ,._v.. :.. l^o rocallod tha-c ,. . on ono occasion, RUBY bav.'le:. c.-.t* c^o -^2 tho girls, however, ho novor.. sav/ RUBY physically a"Juso any of the ompleyoos oy.' patrons at tho club. V/hoaRUBY was around tho roportors-- aad- other nows-roprosoatativos, ho was yory a??«i.blo--.lo and- goaorous.; >' '.;.•• • • .. ' .. -^ , DL 44-1639 3 ROBERTSON has no knowlodco of any associatos o£ JACK RUBY. or doos ho havo any knowlodgo of any personal habits of. RUBY. Eo doos not know of any :acti?irlVld^- -of RUBY, other than the oporatioa of tho Carousol' Club. . ROBERTSON- did aot know LEE HARVEY OSWALD and has- no icaoylodgo. of. any connection between RUBY and OSWALD. Robertson (Victor) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 310 FD-302 (R.». 3.3.S9) . EDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIU. ^ (-^'^ "^ - - '^"' "^^ •''^ - /7 Dat. 6/9/64 Mr. VIC ROBERTSON was contacted at Radio Station ;VFAA, Dallas, Texas. Mr. ROBERTSON had in his possession the audio portion indexed as follows? V7FAA-TV, PKA-5 VIC ROBERTSON, 41j45. ROBERTSON stated that this tape was made late in December 1963, exact date he does not recall. Mr. ROBERTSON stated that in late December 1963, the management of WFAA-Television and Radio Stations asked all employees to reduce to tape everything they could think of that occurred during the pertinent period of the assassi- nation. Mr. ROBERTSON related that during the time he was at the Dallas Police Department on November 22 1963 he saw , , JACK RUBY at the Police Department but at that time the fact , that he saw RUBY was not significant to him and he made no mention of it. He stated that the first time that RUBY was mentioned by him was on a portion of the tape that he recorded in late December 1963, v4iich is indexed WFAA-TV, PKA-5, VIC ROBERTSON, 41t45. Mr. ROBERTSON Stated that there wera two unifoxTned police officers of the Dallas Police Dej>5rtmer>t staitionsd at the door to the entrance of the Homicide Bureau of the Dallas Police Department to keep unauthorized persons out of the Homicide Bureau during the time LEE HARVEY OSWALD was being questioned by Captain WILL FRITZ. Mr. ROBERTSON stated that he could not recall the exact time on the afternoon of No- veitODer 22, 1963, that he observed JACK RUBY attempt to enter the Homicide Bureau, but it was between SgOO and 6^00 o'clock in the afternoon. As to other newsmen, the only other person that Mr. ROBERTSON knew, according to him, was MIKE WHITAKER of the United Press International. He stated that WHITAKER may have seen RUBY attempt to enter the Homicide Bureau. Mr. ROBERTSON Stated that he did not know the ncunes of the officers on the door guarding the Homicide Bureau. Robertson, Vic Exhibit 2 „ 6/9/64 . Dallas, Texas _., j. DL 44-1639 .y Speciol Afl.nt VINCENT E. DRAIN /ds D^,. dictat.d 6/9/64 ^ ?, This documant contains nslther racommandatlona nor eoncluaiona o( tha FBf. It la Iha proparly of tha FBI • ll ^ and la loanad to your agancy; II and Ita ooolanta ora not to ba dlalrlbutad outatda your ogancy. Robertson (Victor) Exhibit No. 2 311 DL 44-1639 ROBERTSON stated that he had no Inforzaation relative to RUBY'S activities, on Noveiriber 23 or 24, 1963, of his own personal Icnowledge. The following information is set forth verbatim as taken from the tape made by Mr. ROBERTSON in late December 19631 "Another thing about that particular evening that's memorable was the appearance of JACK RUBY. I just happened — this reporter had known RUBY for about two years, not well, casually, enough to have some Icnowledge of his character and his outlook, but not enough to say, 'I really know this man . JACK arrived up there at ' Captain FRITZ 's —arrived, put his hand on the knob, turned it, opened the door and started in, probably not more than a step or a step and a half before the officers reacted and pulled him back out. Then he went on down the hall. The interesting thing about it in retrospect was at that time although none of us paid a great deal oil attention to JACK, we Ccin look back and say that at that moment JACK RUBY appeared to be anything but under street or strain. He seemed happy, jovial, was joking and laughing and more like — oh, any exuberant, interested person, a curious person who just had to see what was I going on in his normal, extroverted self. He disappearecj and I didn't see hin again." J 61 Robertson (Victor) Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 312 ~o;-erj- r::^hil)it :,o. Rogers Exhibit No. 1 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 22 313 ^vr ';:;j' '"''"' federal bureau of investigation C^—l c/uM^ -(^0Q~-;Xy]^y^ Dote November 29. 1963 ^P.PR P.. ROSSI, Reatl Estate, 231 Mercantile Contlnenta.l .aj.uir, Dahlias, Texgte, voluntairily advised as follows at Browns- viLlc, Toxas, on November 25, 1963. ROSSI stated th*t he and JACK Bl^BY. whone real r.arae Is RdBEKSTGlN, were both born In tne 24tri Ward in Chicago; ho«/evcr, they aia nox !mow each other until about eleven years ago when they met in Dallas. RUBY had the Silver Spur Club and later the Vegas Club. ROSSI said that he does not know any of RUBY's family but knows that they are Jfew» and that JACK RUBY observes Jewish religous customs ROSSI knows of no conn^iCtioa between JACK RUBY and LEE. HAilVEY OSyfALDi ROSSI described RUBY as hai'ing a bad temper and as being highly c) /otionai . ROSSI said that he had heard xh-a.t RUBY cried when he learned wi the aeath of the late President FRAKKLI.N D. ROOSEVELT at Warm iiprings, Georgia. RUBY was described as being very anti- Comriiuntst but not a member of &ny "right wing hate groups".- In , poli i.^?, ROSSI described RUBY ^5 being "a 24th Waxd Chicago JAKE ARVEY Democrat". ROSSI, knows of no connections on the part of RUBY with gamblere or organized crime- except to know some of these "characters" personally. ROSSI said that he knows of no jI o friendships or relations that Rl©Y ever had with anyone oa ch. Dallas Police Department. I FOSSr last saw RUBY in Dall...* on November. 20, 1963, at which t.lMc uUBY discussed opening a new c i.ub and wanted ROSSI to iHvest money in the olub and perhaps hexp in tb«? management of the vcn-ure. RUBY talked of future plans at that tiw'^ in a manxier to indicate that he did not anticipate getting into any sort of trouble. ROSSI said that when RUBY W4.5 identified over the television as the i.iaa who. killed OSVfALD that ROSSI'S first thoughts were that RUBY v/as the typo emotional enough to do that sort of thing. ROSSI believes that RUBY's motive in killing OSV/ALD was the over simplified solution of a simple and emotional man for obtaining justice in the case. ROSSI nctod that persons who had seen OSWALD killed by RUBY Rossi, Joseph P. Exhib't 1 ^ On 11/25/63 Brownsville, Texas pil. # SA 44-748 by SAS TflOMAS ff. CRAWFORD and CLAY ZACHRY JR. r>^.., dictated 11/26/63 cJ n . . Thl« documant contains nallhar recommandatlons nof conclusion^ ol tha FBI. It U th« proparty ol Ihs FBI ond U loonsd to your oqancy; II and Ita contanis ars not to ba dutrlbutad outslda your agancy. Rossi Exhibit No. 1 314 SA 44.-748 on tb.e television had remarked t^^i.t juf-t p£^±or to the chootlag 03\iAl..D Jccn-.c-'J to lool< t?ij>.r Klu7 in a mrji.naoj:' reflecting recognition. ::•.*: RQSSI sa.i;l thinks that, the look was one of curiosity th-it he .'iRd pi:rh;.,j.>? suspicion cvS RUBY amoiig A ^rcoup of Texas peace officers voul.i ' 'Icl: '>\)x likcj a £oro ihuTitt.'' '. ROSSI saicl that RUBi' wore a. hat Wi. ...ai k.' termed ''a. Chicaso hcoiium hrt" which was perhaps uniciuc in Dail.o.!.- ROSSI said that RUBY "woro this same type of . hir^ Chicago hooluiQ hat" _.._:-:^. ' ... gray hat all the tiinc i5.nd. ho chinks that it was some sort of , a b,.Jf',c reflecting Rl/BY's origin ^.nd U&ckground. ac»'.oyding to ROSSI, friends of RUBY have "kidded RUBY about Rossi Exhibit No. 1 In the past, — Continued • ''",^4,^ 4-! . APPEAL FOR FAIR PLAY SAVE JACK RUBYIP. Funds for his Defense needed Send you contributions to : JACK RUBY DEFENSE FUND COMJ/IITTEE P.O. Box 5226 Chicago 80, Illinois Ex.No.l' RUBENSTEIN, Hyman Deposition_ "~ Washington, D. C. 6-5-64 315 JACK RUBY APPEAL COMMITTEE 30 NORTH LA SAL L E ST, CHICAGO, ILL AN 3-3186 April 30, 1964 COM M T T E E I MICHAEL L EVIN, CHAIRMAN MARTY ERITT BLANCA FORTCANC Dear Friend: ELMER GERTZ A non-profit committee has been organized for the purpose of obtaining funds for Mr. Jack ANN OSBORNE Ruby's appeal. As you undoubtedly know, he BARNEY ROSS has been sent.^nced to the electric chair for the shooting of Lee H. Oswald in spite of the testimony of eminent phychiatrists that he was not responsible for his conduct. Mr. Ruby's family were of average means before the trial. At this time they have exhausted their funds in behalf of their brother. It is with this in mind that we sincerely submit this request for a contribution from you. No sum of money will be considered either too large or too small. In the interest of humanity and justice kindly send what you can at this time. Make checks payable to JACK RUBY APPEAL COMMITTEE. Our sincere thanks. Chairman, Jack Ruby Appeal Committee Jix.No.a RUBENSTEIN, Kyman Deijositio: '-.'asnington, D. C. 6-5-64 IX.. I \u-ff'^' f^^Y RUBENSTEIN EXHIBIT NO. 2 316 RUBENSTEIN, Hyman Deposioion- FD-3oa (H.». 3.1-59) FEDERAL BUliix. No. 3 W..shington, D. C. 6-5-oA Dato 11/25/63 Hn.IAN RUBSNSTZIN, 1044 West Loyola Avenue, advised he was born Dece.xbsr 28, 1901, in Warsaw, Poland, and he is the brother of JACK RUBY, who resides in Da.lls.~, Texan, and who has been arrested for the shooting of LEE HARVEY OSWALD. RUBENSTEIN stated he is a salesinan for the Victory Products Company, operating out of his house, and t rave ls throughout the Midwest_approximately 240 da^s out of the year. RUSENSTEIN advised he was greatly shocked to hear his brother was arrested in Dallas for shooting OSWALD and he personally is very much upset. Ke stated he talked to JACK RUBY by phone on the night of November 22, 1983, at which time JACK was very shocked and disturbed over the President's assassination. JACK RUBY told him this would be ,a good time to "close up the joint and come back to Chicago." RUBENSTEIN said JACK indicated he was very disgusted and sick because of the events that took place in Dallas that day, which probably caused him to make that statement. RUBENS'IEIN stated that JACK made no remark on the phone that he intended to take any action against LEE OSWALD nor did he indicate ,|^(^;i~;-''.5 in any way acquainted v/ith OSWALD. ^; By way of background, JACK RUBY worked for a junk ' collector's union in Chicago during the 1930 's. The reason f or Qiitting is unknown. Ee then had jobs as a salesman for several companies, believed to be Stanley Oliver Company and " Sparten Company, now defunct. This was about 1938=41. JACK then served in the United States Army until about 1946 when he returned to Chicago. During 1946, he went to Dallas, Texas, at the request of their sister, EVA GRANT, to help in the operation of a night club known as the Silver Spur. Ee has resided in Dallas since that time to his knowledge. He last saw JACK four or five years ago in Chicago and they discussed only business. He said that to his knowledge JACK has not ever affiliated him,self with any political party. Ee has heard from other relatives that JACK was very well acquainted with on 11/24/63 .> Chic3.go„ Illin.oig FiU # Dallas 44-1639 IIAURICE J. WHITS and by Special Ap.nt S ROBERT R. LEE/wl Dato dictated 11/24/63 This document contains neither recommendatlona nor cbnclustons of the FBI. It Is the property of the FBI and Is loon your agency; it ond Its contents ore n x^ro'^o distributed i /^^^rx^A/W^i^A RUBENSTEIN EXHIBIT No. 3 317 DL 44-1639 many Dallas policemen and many apparently visit and eat at his clubs, Ee tvould describe him as a generous, good-natured, very patriotic person, although highly emotional. He does not know of any police arrests of JACK and never know him to associate with hoodlums, RUBENSTEIN advised personally he had never heard of GEORGE SENATOR, LEE HARVEY OSV/ALD, or "The Fair Play for Cuba . Committee" until reading 6f them in the newspapers. He feels that if his brother shot CSV?ALD, he did it simply through pent up emotions or he may have been a friend of the slain police officer. RUBENSTEIN appeared to '^ in a highly emotional condition and stated, he could not be more specific regarding the background of RUB'/^^ He declined to furnish any additional information at this time. Hyman Rubenstein Exhibit 3 IH RuBENSTEHN EXHIBIT No. 3 —Continued 318 ro-joj m.r. j^.s.) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIG.\ , ION 1 Dato Novemb'?r 29. 1963 Mr. HYMAN RUBENSTEIN, 1044 West Loyola Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, advised that he had discussed the agents' interview with his sisters and his brother, EARL RUBY, on the afternoon of November 27, 1963-, He stated that to the best of his knowledge and belief, hi's brother and sisters were .. correct in their summary of the family,' s residence and of his \ ' brother, JACK'S, adolescent period. He advised that he had read that his brother, JACK, had been a waiter at some tavern or night club In Chicago and stated that he did not recall any such employment. He stated that his brother had sold penn;j-.t3-~ffnd souvenirs at ChC'Scago sporting events but to his knowledge was not a waiter in any tavetin. .He stated that he could never recall his brother being connected in any way with a night club, tavern or restaurant in the Chicago area and that he was completely ^ew in this business when he moved to the Dallas, Texas area. He stated that he thought it should be brought to the attention of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that he had communicated with his brother's attorney %n Dallas and thc:it at the exact time of the shooting of the President of the United States, his brother, JACK, had been in the office of a newspaper, the name of which he could not recall, "raising hell" with them about a full page add which had appeared that day in a Dallas ^newspaper, criticizing the President of the United States. Accord- ingly, HYT4AN RUBENSTEIN, JACK RUBY, his .brother, had said "do you people need money ,so bad you have to accept advertisements like this. Other Dallas newspapers refused, it". Ho stated .that ' this information is all In the hands of h-Js sister, EVE, In Dallas, Texas. Mr. RUBENSTEIN stated thatthis had been a vejry trying time for him, with the continual questioning by newspapers, rC^^^', television, and law enforcement agencies. He stated that he had tremendous admiration for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and would, cooperate at an;ir time, but he hoped that he and hLs sisters, his brother, and i|ij?l"^'^ul5iiies, could have a quiet Thanksgiving without being contacted ali:rKb^!5ii is unfortunate experience. U ,' _ E_x.No.4 Rubenstein, Hyrnan DepositioiL r^r^^,., J.' J .r^ Washington, D. C. 6-5-64 C ,: 1 on 11/27/63 „, Chicago, Illinois- PL 44-1639 ^.^^ ^ by Sp.cial Asent nEnRPrF, H. PARFF.T/ln D„j, ji^,^,^j 11/28/63 TBI. It la th« properly o« th« FBI and u loanxl to ''^ / RUBENSTMN EXHIBIT NO. 4 319 FD-jo2'(R.». i.ai-.o) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ! ' • Date DocGmbor 9. 1S63 Ur. HYIIAN RUBENSTSIKg 1044 Loyola Avonuo, Chicago, Illinois, telephono number Slloldrako 3-0984, porconally appeared at the Chicago Office of the FBI. Ho advised he had previously boon contacted by the FBI and could not recall at thit time when he wont to Laredo, Texas, la connection vjith a Darcotics trial of JOHN PAUL JOHES, Ho said ho mot JOIIES through his sister, EVA GRAIW^ who reisides in Dallas, Tenas, JC^IES appeared in Chicago, IlliBois, date unrecalled, and reprosentod himself as seeking am outlet for surplus pipe of one inch size. During discussions with JOIIES, he bolieved JOIffiS miTht have stayed at the La Salle Hotel, Chicago, bo furnished JOIJES with one of bis, RU3EI33TEIW's, Jrusinoss cards. He was subsequently contacted by a mo^iber of tho Federal Narcotics Bureau, (first name unknown) AUAN, regarding his association with JOIiES and explained their relationship. He .' ^so appeared as a witness in Laredo, Texas, in United States District Court"ja~coapect ion with JOISS' narcotics trial. Ho furnished a receipt from HEP.Il'UI SAVlffiH and Son, 115-117 North V/abash Avenue, Chicago 2, Illinois, dated January 10, 1047, for a grand piasso and bench in tho amount of $620, He said this piano was parchasod for his sister's, EVA GHAKT's, use in a nightclub venture and he knows that his contact with JOIIES took place either before or after this date. He said be could not be more specific. He said he did not believe his brother, JACS RUBY, had any knowledge of JOHN PAUL JOIJES at this tine because .when his sister, EVA GRACT, received the piano, JACK RUBY was not with her. Ho did not know where RU3Y was living at the time the piano was obtained for EVA GRAI\Zi', He said he did not believe his brother, JACK RUBY, knew JONES at tho tine although he was not aware If RUBY subsequently became acquainted with -Ex. RU32KSTEIN,"l-Iyinan Depositior] I IV fl_..^.LvM:-/u— V '^ • ' ~ No. 5 Washington, D. G. 6-5-6-4 />,--V - ,^ ^'^-^LCO.-- //. ..-., ^..A^v'A^- ° 12/9/63 Chicago, Illinois " p<,, ^ CG 44-645 On DL 4^-1539 SA JOHN J. GOLDEN /bll ^ , 12/9/63 by ,. r)"** dictatad _^_^.^_^_ RuBENSTirtN Exhibit No. 5 320 i Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 I WHY RUBY SHOT OSIJALD Crhe "6 million" plus) It was wrong for Ruby to shoot Oswald. It was equally wrong for the jury to find Ruby guilty of first degree murder with malice . JJ In the light of Ruby's long history of neuroses and paranoid personality, etc., it was wrong for the jury to in effect find Ruby ' temporarily sane.' Within a few hours after it appeared tlu^t Oswald killed Kennedy and almost killed Mrs. Kennedy, Mr. Johnson and the Governor of the State of Texas, and later killed a Texas policeman who attempted to interrogate him, an aroused public had already tried and convicted Oswald as a Communist killer. Only the carrying out of his punishment remained by crowds of people clamoring for some brave person to quickly kill Oswald. Many openly expressed a desire to get at Oswald for this purpose. The Dallas police, fearing that he would be lynched, sought to remove him to another jail in an armored car. Ruby heard people say that the brave man who killed Oswald would be a hero, a martyr, who would save the grief -stricken Kennedy family further grief of a trial; as well as restore -the good name of Texas and its Police Department, which was being criticized for not properly protecting the President. -1- Ex.No.l EARL RUBY Depoaitia Washington, D.C. 6-3-6A ! Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 321 Earl Ruby Exhibit No Zl Innnedlately after Ruby killed Oswald many hailed his act and said a monxnnent should be erected to Ruby. Ruby himself , aald. In the heat of action Immediately after the shooting (res' gestae) , that now he had proved to his Gentile friends that Jews are not cowards and that Jews will not stand Idly by while a wrong is committed. REAL ISSUES INVOLVED 1) But what compelled and obsessed Ruby to carry out the wishes of so many other Americans? 2) What Irresistible Impulse was produced in the deranged , insane mind of Ruby to the extent that it dethroned sane reason and judgment and destroyed his power to independently distinguish between rigjit and wrong. 3) How did Anti-Semitism affect the life and actions ~' of Ruby? 4) What part did Anti-Semitism play in the prosecution of this case and the jury's death verdict? 5) Why must there be a nev trial to complete the record and fully expose all the facts and circumstances surrounding this case? 6) What can be done to prevent a miscarriage of justice? ' These questions present problems beyond the ability or right of Ruby's family to assume alone . It should be the chief concern of everyone . not necessarily to obtain justice for Jack Ruby alone, but to correct the jury's erroneous findings and uncon- scionable verdict that affects all Americans and world Jewry. -2- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 322 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 DISCUSSION MISCELLANEOUS ERRORS. No attempc will be made here to recite or discuss the nvnnerous (over 100) prejudicial errors of the Court that fall into the categories of (1) refusing to grant change of venue, (2) seating hostile jurors, (3) improper rulings on admission of evidence, (4) improper charge to the jury, (5) general misconduct of Court and Prosecutor during trial. EPIJEPSY. Nor will any attempt be made to set forth the general rules concerning the fact that the form of insanity of which Ruby was suffering is £ defense. (See 14 Am.Jur. Sec. 36 and Notes, etc.) Few people, including, the jury, were convinced that Ruby killed Oswald because of epilepsy, an organic disease. But it is understandable why lawyers prefer to base their claim on an organic condition in preference to a psychological one. Epilepsy in and by itself has been held not to be grounds upon which to predicate a plea of temporary insanity. "Proof that a defendant in a criminal case is aA epileptic does not necessarily show insanity, -xellevlng htm from criminal responsibility." 14 Am. Jur. Sec. 33, p. 790. Note 20. Nor will any attempt be made to describe in detail the background neuroses and paranoid personality that Ruby suffered from since about the age of 10. This should be left to careful psychiatric examinations by one especially skilled in f orens ic psychiatry as dis- tinguished from those skilled in organic diseases. -3- RXJBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 323 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 If the organic disease of epilepsy were buttressed by the psyhological disorders that Ruby was suffering from. It is fair to assume that the jury would not have been so quick to find Ruby guilty of a cold-blooded premeditated murder of the 1st degree with malice. Ruby's long-standing insanity would have established vhy Ruby shot Oswald and why he wanted to prove that Jews are brave, good Americans, not afraid to figjit. RECORD MUST BE CORRECTED FOR BENEFIT OF HISTORY. For the sake of truth, justice and history it is of utmost importance that Ruby's past be examined by proper psychiatric examinations. The evidence thus uncovered can still be used as "newly discovered evidence" to obtain a new trial . This brief will only attempt to answer the 6 questions listed on page 2 hereof and conclude with suggestions on how to remedy the situation to prevent a miscarriage of justice. SHOOTING OF OSMAU) WAS ONLY LAST SCENE OF FINAL ACT. In order for the jxiry to have understood this insane compulsion and insane obsession it was necessary to inquire into Jack Rixby's entire life, which led up to the killing of Oswald that was only the culminating incident. SHADY PART OF RUBY'S PAST WAS INQUIRED INTO BUT NOT HIS PSYCHOSIS. When a statement or 'culminating' incident is taken out of context a contrary or opposite meaning is frequently created. Likewise, it was equally difficult for the jury to judge Ruby's sanity when the shooting incident was taken 'out of context' of Ruby's entire life. -4- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 324 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 RUBY NEVER TOOK THE STAND, NO TESTIMONY WAS INTRODXED, CONCERNING HIS LIFETIME OF MENTAL TORMENT AND DISTRESS. These observations were composed from very meagpr, sketchy and limited information furnished by one of the members of Ruby's family in an attempt to help the public come to a deeper understanding of this historic event. After examining Jack Ruby's entire life it appears that It was not Jack Ruby, a sane, immoral 'alleged' hoodlum, who pulled the trigger on November 22, 1963, against an Oswald, but an insane Jacob Rubenstein, the son of pious Jewish parents, who suffered a lifetime of persecution as Jews. EVIDENCE OF RUBY'S DERANGED MIND AND MENTAL TURMOIL. Rtiby's emotional disturbance and insanity goes back almost to his birth. He was brought up by parents who lived in a Jewish area surrounded by gangs of non-Jews who frequently attacked him and other Jews. As a child he read and heard about the senseless savage killing of Jews during pogroms in other countries for centuries. The gruesome gory details of these monstrous persecutions of Jews were common topics of conversation in his home and neighborhood and later during his adult life, up to the time he shot Oswald. These were later highlighted and fixed in Ruby's mind by the Hitler holo- caust. He listened to sermons and lectures, and avidly sought oat ."and read books and articles concerning these indescribable horrible persecutions and murders of "Jews." By the age of 10 he was already so emotionally disturbed that the FBI records show (learned by Ruby's present family for the first time after the trial) that It was recommended thar Ruby be -5- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 325 Earl auby Exhibit No. 1 1 I placed In a foster home tn order to remove him from the en- vironment that was contributing to his mental disturbances. But Ruby remained in his environment and grew "p with the belief that by "fighting back" and the use of force, and later by bendln;? over backwards to be kind, he would show Gentiles how brave he ' was, he would compel them to accept and respect him despite his Jewish heritage. ... .' , - , •.!.. ; . -' . Ruby was treated by a Dallas, Texas doctor for a nervous breakdown only a few years ago. Although he may have associated with alleged "hoodlxsns and underworld characters" he would fight like a maniac when anyone made any derogatory remarks against Jews. ' ' . The list of such fights and altercations is too long to detail here except to say that he continuously went out of his way to break up Nazi Bund meetings and other Anti-Semitic meetings. He would throw Anti-Semites bodily out of his clubs, and otherwise challenge and fight anyone he suspected of being an Anti-Semite. "D(»? QUIXOTE" VS. ANTI-SEMITISM VS. ANTI -KENNED YISM. In many respects he seemed normal, but whenever the question of Anti-Semitism or 'Anti-Kennedy ism* arose he acted in obedience to insane compulsions over which he appeared to have no control and which prevented him from sanely distinguishing between what was *ri^t or wrong* for him to personally do about it. NO SANE ORGANIZED THINKING LED TO DISORGANIZED INSANE ACTIONS. A few days before Kennedy arrived tn Dallas, articles appeared in the paper and on billboards criticizing the Kennedy Admlnlatration signed by a Jewish name. • r -6- Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 326 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 Ruby took pictures of these Anti-Kennedy Adminis- tration 'Anti-warren' billboards in the middle of the night and want to the managing editor of the newspaper complaining that there was no person by any such name, that the Jewish sovmd^ng name was fictitious and used by an Anti-Semite to discredit the Jewish people in the eyes of Kennedy and others. Despite the immoral nature of his entertainment places, he warned entertainers not to tell any Anti-Semitic or Anti-Kennedy jokes or stories that might reflect upon either Jews or Christians. MOTIVE NOT VICIOUS AS "MALICE" IMPLIES. Ruby admired Kennedy because, among other reasons, he felt Kennedy was a friend of the Jews. \#hen Kennedy was attaclced by newspaper articles and on billboards. Jack took this personally and felt his hopes In Kennedy were being attacked. When Kennedy was assassinated by Oswald, Jack took this personally too and felt this to be an attack on his America, his idol and his freedom in America, Immediately after the assassination of the President, Oswald was pictured as a Communist who so loved Russia that he married a Russian. He took this also personally as an attack upon him because of the long history of persecutions by Russia of the Jewish people. -7- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 327 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 Ea There were reports of his full confession, later called premature. Then reports that the case against Oswald was "iron clad" and that his confession was momentarily awaited. People stayed glued to their televisions, watching these scene^ and conflicting reports for 2 days. Instead of any 'cooling off, P.uby became more infuriated as these reports kindled and added frustrations in his inflamed mind. Hour by hour, he heard , saw . read and talked about Kennedy's assassination and Oswald, who was being held as his assassin. There was no "cool" time for him to meditate and compose himself, from the time Oswald shot Kennedy "like fish in a barrel" to the time Ruby shot Oswald. RUBY'S OBSESSIONS GRE\J WORSE, NOT BETTER WITH THE. Immediately after the assassination, all television, radio and newspapers cancelled their regular programs and confined their reports to pictures, continuously re -enact ins the gruesome scenes of the assassination, and pictures of the bereaved Kennedy family. This was the main topic of conversation in the homes and on the streets. Ruby was so upset and bereaved he closed his night clubs. They repeatedly showed pictures of Oswald's stubborn defiance of the police department's efforts to interrogate him. MOTIVATED BY PUBLIC DHMANDS. He heard crowds of people say that the person who killed that Communist Oswald would be a hero and martyr and save the State of Texas and Mrs. Kennedy the ordeal of a trial. -8- RuBY (Eael) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 328 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 He had the Insane uncontrollable impulse and insane obsession to become such a hero and martyr, that he would bring credit to Texas and the Jewish people from whom he was seeking acceptance. - ' /V RUBY FELT NEED FOR ACCEPTANCE TO OVERCOME HIS FEELING OF REJECTION. - As a bachelor, he was crying out for the acceptance that the other married members of his family were enjoying with their wives and children but from which he felt rejected and alone. He frequently went out of his way to prove hicnself worthy of acceptance. The only acceptance he received was the little "thank yous" from those to whom he gave money and otherwise helped without expecting any return except their acceptance. In his crying need for real acceptance he surrounded himself with 5 dogs whom he called his "children". TRAINED BY U.S. AR>tY TO KILL ENEMY . In V7orld War II he was trained to fight anything unAmerican, He discovered that here, too, he was fighting against Anti-Semitism and frequently the Anti-Semitism among his own buddies with whom he engaged in frequent fights and arguments. It was not Oswal^ he was shoot ing~al:~but at~a Cornmunist enfeiny and another symbol of Anti-Semitism and unAraericanism that he was insanely suffering from. It was not to punish the killer of Kennedy, the roan , but the President and symbol of hi« U.S. of America who he believed was a good friend of the Jewish people - his people of which he felt himself one despite his lack of religious observances. -9- RuBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued t4-732 O— 64— vol. XXI- NO COOL PREMEDITATED PLAN . The assassin of Kennedy followed the usual plan of a murderer by successfully secluding hlnself , with a planned getaway from the scene of his crime. But in Ruby's case, aside from the opinion of psychiatrists, the untouched find unplanned pictures show Ruby openly shooting Oswald, his senseless actions In a p olice station in the presence of hundreds of armed policemen. This picture should have, by all the rules, indicated "reasonable doubt", if not complete doubt, of his sanity in the Binds of the Jury and at least lack of premeditation. The Jury should have had the benefit of all of these pictures from the time of Kennedy's assassination, and not Just that of Ruby shooting Oswald. ACTED ALONE ON IMPULSE . Ruby took the law into his own hands and carried out the overwhelming wishes of public sentiment at the, time he shot Oswald, Just as he took the treatment of Anti-Semitism and Antl- Kennedyism Into his own hands. He also became Insanely obsessed with his need to become a martyr. He became Increasingly dis- turbed in this respect and Inflamed concerning Anti-Semitism with the advent of Hitler and the murder of "6 million" Jews. RUBY'S 'INTERFERENCE' MAS PUNISHED BY THE JURY AS THOUGH HE KILIJED THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. There are police and fire departments properly equipped to deal with certain problems. Volunteer firemen or policemen • -10-1 Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 330 Earl Ruby Exhibit No "! .^ ...... V. .' ^ -,-.. ...- who Jinnp into a situation without such training and equipment not only do harm to themselves but frequently interfere . It was for this interference that the jury punished him. Ruby's Interference was of such a nature. But it was not with the malice or vicious motives that were attributed to him by the jury. He did not have a aiff iciently sound mind to know how to evaluate his concerns about Anti-Semitism or the suffering of Jews, or the assassination of President Kennedy and the grief of the Kennedy family.' He did not know how to reconcile with public sentiment against Oswald and control his feelings and still stand at a safe distance in order to be of real and greater help to Texas and the causes he was seeking to serve. Ruby did not understand that he was not called upon to personally right all the world's ^^ongs. He did not appreciate that this was the job of .organizations established for such purposes but Ruby was again taking these issues into his own hands and becoming further inflamed beyond all reason. ; After finding Ruby guilty of 1st degree murder , he now believes that he brought disgrace and shame upon all the Jewish people for all time instead of the good will public demands led his deranged mind to believe he would accomplish. This may account for Ruby's attempts to take his own life. He is now warning members of his family to guard and protect their children because he thinks they are killing Jews in the streets of America because of his actions. -U- RxjBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 331 1 E«rl Ruby Exhibit No.^\ ..... - "COOL" JURY . , There were few cool mindf. in the entire city of Dallas from which an impartial jury could be impanelled. JURY INFIAMED AGAINST RUBY BY PROSECUTOR'S CONTENTION THAT RUBY SHOT A HELPLESS HANDCUFFED MAN, AND BY ANTI-SEMITIC REFARKS. The jury was not shown all the pictures that were on television for two days that led up to this last incident. Although Oswald's two hands were not free he was surrounded and being pro- tected by the drawn guns in the free hands of hundreds of poBcemen. NO COOL PREMEDITATION. There was no 'cooling off period' in the entire city of Dallas, upon which the eyes of the world were focused. There was no cooling off period in Ruby's mind. Everyone was outraged against Oswald. The police made little effort to dissuade anyone from attacking Oswald. JURY ACTED WITH MALICE AND WITHOUT COOL MEDITATION. It was at least the duty of the jury to free them- selves of malice and prejudice, and presvime Ruby to be free c£ the malice and premeditation he was charged with. In view of Ruby's long-standing history of mental and emotional distvirbances it would appear that the jury did not give Ruby the benefit of any such "reasonable doubts" or "presumptions of Innocence." Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 332 Earl Ruby Exhibit No :^! JURY FOIM) A SCAPEGOAT FOR TEXAS INSTEAD OF A KARTYR . If all the facts about Ruby's life vere put in evidence, (by the prosecution as well as Ruby's attorneys), even a prejudiced Jury would have had difficulty in findiiig Ruby guilty of first degree murder with premeditation and malice in less than 2 hours of deliberations, after many weeks of testimony. . . ' RUBY NOT GUILTY OF 1ST DEGSREE MURDER WITH MALICE. Under the law of Texas, as it is in all states, it was the duty of the prosecution to prove beyond any leasonable doubt that Ruby was of a sane mind at the time of the shooting and that he was not acting from an insane motive, obsession or impulse over which he had no control. • It was also the duty of the prosecution to prove, beyond all reasonable doubt. 1) That he committed this act with sane pre- meditation and with sane malice towards Oswald and with a sane motive. I , ', 2) That, independent of the suggestions and wishes of the crowds, that it would be right and not wrong for anyone to kill Oswald; viz that he. Ruby, was independently of such sovmd cool mind as to distinguish between whether it was right or wrong for him to shoot Oswald. JURY DISREGARDED RULES OF "INNOCENCE" AND REASONABUE DOUBT. It was the duty of the jury while determining the questions involved, to give Ruby the benefit of any reasonable doubt as to his sanity, premeditation or malice. -13- ' i; Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 333 I*MMt^-^l_1 B.rt BabT It may also have been the duty of the jury to give Ruby the benefit of the presumption of innocence because of Insanity. (Texas law should be examined in this respect). TRIAL AND JURY'S VERDICT BROUGHT SHAME AND DISQIACE TO STATE OF TEXAS. When one recalls all of the facts involved herein and all the pictures, especially the one showing the shopting of Oswald, one wonders whether the jury were in their right minds when they returned the death verdict. WAS RUBY TEMPORARILY SANE? If the jury knew Ruby's history, and all that led up to his shooting of Oswald, they would have had to believe that Ruby miraculously and suddenly became temporarily sane at the instant of shooting, despite his previous insanity, before returning their death verdict'. The Jury, not unlike Ruby, felt the need to "right a wrong" and respond vrith a verdict of death for Ruby, in keeping with "public sentiment" as expressed by the prosecuto r who represented Texas jus tice . \ , But what Anti-Semitism in the jury's personal lives made them vulnerable to such needs and pleas? >-/ What hateful obsessions led them to "act on impulse" and make their hasty death verdict? These questions will remain a dark secret unless investigated and exposed, just as will what led Ruby to shoot Oswald, unless the jury's shameful verdict is vacated, and a new trial ordered to remove, what could remain, an indelible blot on "Quick Texas Justice" that future generations will be unable to erase, '^' • ,14- Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 334 Earl Ruby Exhib it No. 1 \ I TEXAS HOT -BED OF ANTI-SEMIT . _^ Vicious Anti-Semites like Rockwell and Gerald L.K. Smith are openly and primarily supported by Mr. Hunt, one of the wealthiest oil men In Texas. (Such men too often exert their Influence over courts ) . The headquarters of many of these Anti- Semitic organizations are in Texas, from where a large part of Anti-Semitic literatvire emanates. (See files and records of B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation League). Ruby was repeatedly reminded by the Nazi Rockwells that what happened to the Jews In Germany could also happen here in America. This affected non -observing as well as observing "Jews". The least knowledgeable and least observing "Jews" • are frequently most friglitened by Anti-Semitism. This type is against raising the Anti-Semitic problem lest it disturb their (false sense of) security. They prefer Ruby's quiet execution rather than have it exposed to prevent a miscarriage of justice. It was in this cess -pool hot-bed that Ruby lived and functioned . It was in this contaminated Anti-Semitic atmosphere that Ruby was "tried" by a ptejudlced jury, not "of his peers." The jury showed their ovm hate in their anxiety to punish Ruby. "TRey^coulcThardly walt^fbr~the~end'of"the ^trial to" return their sentence of death. LAWYERS LIK5 ENIL ZOIA AND CLARENCE DARROW NEEDED . It is difficult for a non-Jewish judge, jury, lawyer or doctor to fully appreciate the severe trauma and devastating effect that these senseless murders and horrible persecutions and -15- RUBY (Eabl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 335 Earl Ruby Exhibi t Ko. 1 ;^ I Anti-Semitism have had upon, and continue to have upon, Jews throughout the world, /Regardless of how far removed the individual may physically be from the scene of horror. He Images himself as one of the suffering victims, which i^ is difficult for a non-Jew unrelated thereto to envision. With all due respect to his very able counsel, they were unable to appreciate or explore the significance of Anti-Semitism in this case or uncover a psychosis, mania and insane obsession that Ruby himself v;as not aware of. Ruby could not and did not discuss or relate the history of these deeply imbedded mental conditions to his attoimeys or the doctors who examined X-rays and who were primarily seeking evidence to support an organic mental disorder they called epileptic in nature. "THANK GOD NO JE\J IS INVOLVED." After the President's assassination Jews said, with a sigh of relief, "Thank God Oswald is not a Jew", only to despair 2 days later when Ruby shot Oswald. FALL-OUT VICTIMS OF ANTI-SEMITISM. Millions of pages have been written describing the Nazi horrors that directly destroyed the lives of 6 million Jews in Europe. Like the atom bomb, there are many fall-out victims beyond the area where the bomb fell. Many are still crippled as a result of that menace. Both were like fiery crematories. Insane asylums and Skid Rows are filled with similar fall-out -16- RUBY (Eabl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 336 Earl Ruby Exhibit No Z\ victims of broken homes where parents wrangled and degraded each other. These children, though seemingly far removed from' the scene of conflict, are the real sufferers and real fall-out victims. But little is known of the indirect chaos and destruction that these holocausts have wrought in the lives of countless Jews in America and other countries. "THE 6 MILLION PLUS RUBY". • . - Emotional appeals are made to Jews in America in behalf of Israel and various Jewish agencies to help the survivors, These make their listeners feel guilty unless they contribute every- thing they have, including their lives and their fortunes, in behalf of their fellow Jews who have been suffering from the ravages of the Hitler holocaust and other forms of Anti-Semitism. Many gave up their business and broke up their comfortable homes in America to live in Israel among the refugees of Anti-Semitism. JEWS ARE A SENSITIVE EMOTIONAL PEOPLE. To begin with, Jew^ are a highly sensitive and emotional people. They feel strong family ties as well as their Individual tie to the whole of the Jewish people. One of their most revered sayings is that "each Jew is responsible one to and for the other." "1 am my brother's keeper." Jews are taught from btth to take pride in the martyrs who willingly suffered torture and death for the sake of preserving their faith and the home of Judaism. Jews take pride in -17- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 337 Earl Ruby Exhibit No -1 pointing out what other Jews throughout the world have contributed to civilization; but cringe when other Jews commit a wrong, because they are also taugjit that any improper conduct on their Individual part is suffered by all Jews, and could result in genocide . These teachings are part of their daily prayers. On 'Day of Atonement' Jews beat their chest - and confess any apathy in permitting others to sin. (Vis a vis apathy of those who watch rape and murders committed) Many who were Jews in name only said, "but for the grace of God there go I,." As they read and saw gruesome pic- tures of the Nazi horrors described in the Eichman and Neurenburg trials, they felt guilty for living, while so many others died, only because they were traced to the Jewish race. Many Jews there- fore dedicated their lives and fortunes as though in expiation for their sins for not suffering along with their European brethren. "THE LAST OF THE JUST". ' Many books have been written describing how obsessed individuals downgrade themselves and sacrifice their opportvtriluies for a better way of living, in order to prove to themselves as well as others their sincerity in their desire to help. Some need this form of self -punishment t(/remove the guilt feelings. Like Schwarzbart's hero in "The Last of the Just" who toarched into the copcentration camp and gas chamber with head held high to share the suffering of his fellow Jews thou^ he had many opportunities to escape. .!^ -18- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 338 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 ffiNERATIONS OF JEV7S WOULD SUFFER IF OST-IALD V7ERE A JE'.J. How much, and how long would the blood of Jews - be shed If Oswald were a "Jew?" (Some indirectly try to connect him thru Ruby) In "One Destiny" an "Epistle to the Christians" by Sholem Asch, a recognized disciple of Christianity's teachings, Asch briefly refers to some of the murderous actions by 'psychotic Anti-Semites' during almost 2,000 years over an incident that occurred centuries before the assailants or accused were bom. But he shows how such minds became insanely disturbed against Jews by the constant re-enactment and reminder of the bloody Crucifixion scene. This is mentioned merely to indicate what happened to the mind of Ruby in reverse. (Mr. Asch wrote books on Christianity like The Nazarene, Mary, Paul, The Apostle). PROSECUTOR INFERENTIALLY REFERRED TO SHYLOCK AND CHRIST. THIS ALONE TTARRANTS NEW TRIAL. The prosecutor was "guilty of malice" or "bad faith" by frequently referringto Ruby as "Jewi*. boy from Chicago", (gangster), "Jewish Messiah" (Christ), "money grabber'), ("money changers"), and by many vile and yicious epithets and innuendoes. Such references, aside from any other errors, are sufficient groimds for a^new t rial, because they influence and inflame a juror and appeal to hate and prejudice, beclouding the real issues. It was the duty of the Court to prevent and take prompt appropriate measures to reprimand the prosecutor and attempt to correct the effect on the Jury of such highly improper and vm- ethical conduct but both the Court and jury seemed to relish, and «njoy and agree with these references. Their verdict reflects this, .-: - • :V Ruby (Bael) Exhibit No. 1—Continued 339 Earl Ruby Exhibit No 3 HATE AND PREJUDICE AND MENTAL DISEASE OF ANTI-SEMITISM, HAS DESTROYED MORE LIVES. AND THE MINDS OF MORE PEOPLE THAN EPILEPSY. It rots and contaminates both spewed and sprayer. This happened to the minds of courts, prosecutors and juries in Germany, Spain and the great Roman Empire. America must be saved from this type of feverish malaria. Texas is a good place to start from. The prosecution planted seeds of hate and prejudice that sprouted into a death verdict. . . i Not unlike Ruby, the jury had no freedom of will, no cool freedom of choice. The jury became slaves of the will of the prosecutor who expressed the desires of "The State of Texas" for the death penalty. PROSECUTOR CONCEALED IMPORTANT FACTS BEARING ON MAIN ISSUE IN THIS CASE. ^ The Prosecutor concealed and failed to reveal to the jury information he knew about Ruby's mental disturbances when he was 10 years old. (Ruby's parents are long deceased. His sister and brothers didn't learn of this until after the trial) . Such concealment by the prosecution is also grounds for new trial. ^:^ A prosecutor represents all the people including Jews. It was his duty to be fair and place before the jury all the facts bearing on guilt or innocence . People -v- DeFrance . IDA Mich. 563. -20- RuBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 340 I E«rl E»: Ruby Exhibit No. 1 " *** it is the duty of the prosecuting attorney, who represents all the people, and has no respon- sibility except fairly to discharge his duty, to hold himself tmder proper restraint and avoid violent partisanship, partiality, and misconduct which may tend to deprive the defendant of the fair trial to which he is entitled; and it is as much his duty to refrain from Improper methods calculated to bring 'about a wrongful conviction as it is to use every ' legitimate means to bring about a just one. It is the duty of the prosecutor to see that nothing but competent evidence is submitted to the jury; and, above all things, he should guard against anything that would prejudice the minds of the jurors, and tend to hinder them from considering only the ebidence Introduced. He should never seek by any artifice to warp the minds of the jurors by inference and insinuations. 42 Am.Jur. pages 255, 256.^ 'Thus, as shown in another article, improper and In- flatnmatory argument or comment to or in the presence of the jury is a common form of misconduct, and so, also. Is the improper examination or cross-examination of the defendant and other witnesses. In another article is also treated the subject of misconduct of a prosecuting attorney as grounds for his disbarment or suspension and the effect of improper influence or , interference with the grand jury by the prosecuting attorney or his assistants. 42 Am.Jur. page 256. "It is equally well settled that a prosecuting attorney who acts maliciously in a matter which is clearly outside the duties of his office is personally liable to one '^^ Ay injured by his acts." 42 Am.Jur. page 257. WHAT IRONY THAT RUBY, WHO CONCERNED HIMSELF WITH PREVENTING ANTI-SEMITISM, BECAME A FURTHER VICTIM OF IT AND MAY BE EXECUTED BECAUSE OF THE ANTI-SEMITISM OF THE COURT, PROSECUTOR AND JURY BEFORE WHOM HE WAS TRIED. -21- RuBY (Eabl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 341 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 j DISQUALIFICATIONS OF COURT, PROSECUTORS AND JURY SHOULD BE "investigated and made basis FOR NEW TRIAL. Any Juror who concealed or failed to reveal his personal prejudices or whose family had connections with organized Antl-Semltlc groups, was not Impartial, and did not qualify as a Juror. The Jury tried Jacob Rubensteln - the Jew . (This name was used by some reporters) . They punished Ruby as though he killed their hero. It is frightening to think what a Texas mob would have done to Ruby and other Jews If he killed the President. Both the Court's and Prosecutor's personal prejudices or those of any member of his family who had connections with any organized Anti-Semitic groups should be investigated. If it is determined such associations existed, this disqualified the Court from sitting in this case and should be brought to attention of Supreme Court of Texas. (Anti-Semitism) of "PEOPLE of STATE of TEXAS -v- RUBY." The Jury quickly responded with the death verdict, emotionally Influenced, and demanded by the prosecutor in the name' of the People of Texas. "Sec. 56 .APPEALS TO EMOTIONS OR PREJUDICES OF JURY. It is a well-settled general rule, applicable in civil and In criminal cases alike, that an impror^er appeal by counsel to the einotior.s_flnf^_preiudices ox the Jury, resulting injuriously to the adverse party, is a ground for iprantlng a new trial. " 39 Am.Jur. page 73. -22- RuBY (Eakl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 342 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 "Reference to one's race, creed or color or appeals to hate or prejudice are Rrounds for a new trial . VThere defendant, who was Jewish, produced 4 witnesses in his behalf, the prosecutor stated 'he did not care how many Jewish witnesses the defendant brought there to testify.'" flie Court further said: "The argvnnents of a lawyer representing this V nation **>• are not without great weight and /* influence *** there V7as prejudicial error in this trial which prevented it from being fair and impartial *•**." People of the U.S. -v- Skuv. 261 F. 316. In People -v- Newman, 113 Cal. App. 679 . in a prosecution of defendant for arson who was Jewish "the prosecuting attorney, in his argument to the jury, made statements appealing to racial prejudice when he said: 'I don't know whether it was Mrs. Leary's cow or Max Newman's (defendant's) grandmother who started the fire in Chicago . ' *** I once saw the torso of a little boy friend of mine blackened and dead in the Morgue, set by one of the kind of rten *** that we are prosecuting here ***. I want you to think a little bit about conditions here and what may come If this is not stopped.'" "Such statements were so prejudicial that their injurious effect could not have been cured by any method that might have been devised, and the judgment of conviction was reversed notwithstanding the Court's instruc- tion to the jury to disregard them." "We all know the way of Jews' dealings in business and having their business dealings *** these are God's chosen people, who the Bible says shall gather into their arms all the wealth of the world." People -v- Golden. 23 Okla. Crlm. 243, 214 P. 946. This case was reversed and remanded for a nev; trial just because of these inflammatory remarks. Ruby (Eabl) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 23- 343 L^«;l Ruby Exhibit No. 1 I ' r In the case of People -v- Hurwlch. 259 Mich. 361. "::•,- "In a prosecution for arson *** where one defendant was a Jew *** question on cross- " examination *** that two bankruptcies and a fire is Jewish fortune" the Supreme Court of Michigan divided only on the question of whether the prosecutor acted in good faith in merely asking the question. The affirmative opinion indicated that "the question was not asked in bad faith nor that it affected the verdict " but the 3 dissenting judges said that the mere asking of such a question showed bad faith and was improper, and this alone was sufficient grounds for a new trial. "The question served as a means to convey to the minds of the jurors a senile cackle of alapstick days with prejudicial effect if not of purpose! There was no excuse for asking the question and it should have been stricken from the record, counsel admonished and its poisonous effect purged by instant instruction accomplishing such end." Qupting from page 365 of People v. Hunwich, supra . Prosecuting attorney's appeal to racial prejudice, in trial of colored man for murder, by stating to Jury that, if they wanted to live with him to bring in verdict of not guilty, held prejudicial error. People -V- Hill. 258 Mich. 79. In the Texas case of People of Texas -v- Dinklage, 148 Texas Crim. 123 , the Texas Supreme Court said: " *** the harmful effect of the allusion to the defen- dant as a 'Hun' and a 'German' could not have been , obliterated by an insttruction of the court, especially In the light of the practical repetition thereof while < the court was attempting to withdrav? the first remark from the jury, and the jud^ent was accordinr^ly reversed and the cause remanded. The court said: Ue are a melting ' pot of many nationalities , races, creeds i and colors, and to charge one at the present time with being a Hun and a German, although bom in Texas, leads us to conclude, \dien taken with other lesser errors found herein, that appellant has not hdd a fair trial .*" / e/r /*»'<^r*c-.^j or /^e * . .s y'j assess t*^r,o9 Htf^t-r/r/o^ Ruby (Eakl) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 344 Earl Ruby Exhibit "In Powell V. State (1902,, Tex Crlm) 70 SH 218, in "^- , * which the defendant, a Negro, was convicted of the murder of his wife and sentenced to death, a reversal was sought on the ground that the prosecuting attorney, in his address to the jury, said, 'Gentlemen of the jury, if you don't hang this Negro, we will have such scenes, as we are going to have at Lancing,' whih statement was understood as having reference to the fact that a Negro ehavg charged with raping a white woman at the place mentioned had just been captured and that a mob was then being or- ganized for the purpose of lynching him. It was held that because of the public excitement and indignation arising from the reported rape and prospective lynching, of which the jury apparently had knowledge, it could not be said that the defendant was not injuriously affected by the statement complained of, and the judgment of conviction was accordingly reversed. The court said: This is a death ' // penalty, and appellant is entitled to a fair and impartial )( trial by a cool and calm consideration of all the salient ' features of his case, unhampered by any prejudice, personal or local,"' See also Stae of Texas -v- Taylor. 50 Texas 560. Crlm . . The Texas Court again said in People -v- Hllson. 96 Texas Crlm. 550 ; '» *** we do not hesitate to say that it was utterly Impossible for the, court to destroy the virus that vras spread by the very asking of the question. It is not a pleasant duty to criticise the conduct of a nrosecutins officer, but this shall not deter us from agnin saying that extraneous matters that incite race or class prejudice certainly have no place in the courthouse and this is especially true in a case of this character . "The only purpose It could serve would be to spread prejudice against and contempt and execration for the defendant through the minds of her triers. This sort of procedure will not be tolerated by this court." 'It Is beyond question that the statements of the district attorney were unjustifiable and censurable .As an officer of the court he signally failed in his diitv to act in the Interest of justice. His remarks were plainly unwarranted and were objectionable on two grounds. They tended to create race prejudice, and they conveyed the irrputation that the accused belonged to a class of persons peculiarly addicted to the Illicit distillation of liquors. Remarks such as these, which are not withdrawn, when brought to the atten- tion of court and counsel, constitue prejudicial error, which requires reversal." -25- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued -732 O— 64— vol. XXI 24 345 lEarl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 J 3 -RING CIRCUS. As one reviews the record, one wonders Aether this trial took place In America .Nazi Germany or Russia. It was a ^ectacle mindful of the Roman gladiators or a 3-ring circus. '•.. In which "ring" was Ruby during the time of this trial? He might just as well have been in Siberia. The trial was conducted as though the Judge, was referee ing a boxing match between the prosecutor in one comer and Belli in the ether. He refused to call the many foul Anti-Semitic pvmches- 'below the belt.' Vflien Belli began to tire, he insisted on holding Court at night and made him continue his arguments to the jury without addquate preparation. WHO WAS ON TRIAL IN THIS CASE? Ruby ? or Belli , who expressed confidence that he would beat the prosecution, Wa#dMbragged about the 25 men he sent to their death and how Ruby was going to be No. 26. He couldn't afford to have his record marred by losing this battle to a recognized great lawyer like Belli. PROSECUTION -V- MELVIN BELLI. The prosecutor defeated Kelvin Belli at the expense of Ruby's life.. (But could he have done it without appealing to hate and prejudice, or the help of the Judge?) ' "' -26- Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 346 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 Belli was no match for these Texan gladiators operating in their own Roman den. It would be interesting to see what the result would have been if this 'match' was staged in San Francisco, or on neutral ground. One of the first things a ^member of the prosecution said after the jury's verdict, was not how just the verdict was, but how Belli could have put up a better defense. He also criticized Belli and indicated how pleased and thrilled he was to beat Belli. Now that the prosecution won their battle against Melvin Belli , it will be interesting to see the extant to which they will go in their effort to prevent the Supreme Court of Texas from doing justice in this case by granting Mr .Ruby a new trial. ORQ^NIZED EFFORT NEEDED TO RESTORE SANE DISPOSITION OF CASE IN RE "JACK RUBY"^ , Since it is the aim of all concerned to protect the rights of Jack Ruby, efforts should be made to organize and co-ordinate the thinking and efforts of everyone concerned with " justice ". so that appropriate steps will be promptly taken, in the right direction, to avoid any future conflicts, pitfalls or regrettable omissions. Anti-Semites have re already used this case to plant and spread rumors that Ruby was connected with Communists and conspired with Oswald to kill the President, and that Ruby killed Oswald to sear his lips. (Even the staid New York Times repeated these un- founded rxraiors) . -27- RUBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 347 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 i There is no cleankrecord of what happened 2,000 years ago, but the record in this case can ae made clear for anyone to read by a new trial, so that the jury's determination of the facts in this case will not be distorted and added to an already sordid 1900 year old record of distortions, imaginations, conjectvnres and theories based on what one wishes to believe, RECOHMENDATIONS The following is suggested merely by way of remedies . to complete the record, and correct some of the past and present omissions and mistakes ao that the real issues involved in this case are solidly in the record for proper review by the Supreme Court of Texas (and U.S. Supreme Court if it becomes necessary), 1) Thorough and complete psychiatric examination of Jack Ruby's life should be made with the help of such information as can be supplied by members of his family, friends, record of the Army or any other records or sources of information. 2) A motion for reconsideration of the Order denying the motion for a new trial should be filed before Judge Brown out- lining and pinpointing t he foregoing Anti-Semitic r emarks. The other items should be described as 'newly discovered evidence' supported by affidavits of psychiatrists who have examined him since the trial. The psychiatrists chosen to presently examine and treat Ruby should be outstanding forensic psychiatrists like Dr. Tanay. -28- RUBY (Bakl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 348 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 Even though such a motion for reconsideration may be sunanarily rejected by Judge Brown, it nevertheless should be made so that a proper foundation will be in the record for arguments concerning all the questions herein, before the Supreme Court of Texas , and before United States Supreme Court , in case new trial is denied. The inability of a client suffering i a mental condition to communicate such evidence to his attorney by reason of his mental condition is grounds for labelling such evidence "newly discovered". It would be helpful if the petition for re -consideration could also have attached to it the affidavits of those psychiatrists who previously limited their examination and testimony to the organic psychomotor epileptic condition. 3) Although there is an indication that Ruby may be given needed medical attention in order to prevent his mental condi- tion from becoming worse or incurably insane or to prevent him from committing suicide; Nevertheless a formal petition should be filed and made part of the record showing this mental condition and requesting such treatment so that this, too, will be in the record for use before the Supreme Court of Texas, or U. S. Supreme Court. 4) Despite the recent indication that Jack Ruby will receive a sanity hearing, it is of utmost importance that/formal petitionsf^ for same be filed with the affidavits referred to attached, to plug the loopholes, and protect the record for rev iw by the Supreme Court of Texas and U.S. Supreme Court. '^. -29-' ^ Ruby (Eabl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 349 Earl Ruby Exhibit No. 1 5) If either suggesCions 3 or 4 are denied, application should be made imiuediately to Federal Court to protect Ruby's •c iyil rights 6) Attempts should be made to interest the American Psychiatric Society in this case, for the purpose of having them appoint a special panel of psychiatrists to impartially examine Ruby and submit their report. (Vis a vis the actions and effect formerly of the Epilepsy Society that may have been planned by those seeking Ruby's conviction). 7) Attempts should be made to interest the American Bar Assn . and Texas Bar in this case, for them to possibly appear " amicus curiae or via of counsel" and file briefs concerning the legal issues Involved. (These need not be 'criminal' lawyers). This historic case deserves to be fully prepared and presented, at least to the Supreme Court, to prevent any future regrets or criticisms for not having covered all possible areas. By following the procedures outlined, supported by verified petitions with full disclosure, spelling out the facts upon which they are based, they will not only show that Ruby was unable to 'assist his covtnsel' before and during, the trial, but such petitions will establish that Ruby did not receiVe a fair trial and that he , was Insane for a long time prior to, as well as at the time of the shooting of Oswald. It will at least show that the verdict was a result of prejudice , and hate and contrary to even the limited evidence, in view of the doctrine of presumed innocence and reasonable doubt . Such petitions would also establish that the shooting of Oswald was at least an unpremeditated act of Ruby's deranged mind, and that he is at least entitled to a new trial. ; ; Respdctfully suggested. Sol A. Dann 1820 David SSott Bldg. Detroit 26 Michigan Dated: June 1, 1964 -3Ct Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 350 C4^ »^-^ 'V^^-JI-^ '>.— , p ^>'W>f C^-Z. Ex.No.2 RUBY, Earl Deposition ' <^/ -1^ X W.shington, D. C. 6-3-6J, u--r/r , _. ^ - ^^- /-/!., /. ^--;./c f.W^^ Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 2 351 Earl Huby Exblbit 2 - ^ / ,^_. -> ^' ^ esi^ Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 2— Continued 352 ^ FD-302 (R.T. 9-J-S9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION EARL RUBY, 29925 Woodland Drive, Southfield, Michigan, was interviewed at the residence of his brother HYMAK RUBENSTEIH, 10l*U West Loyola Avenue, Chicago, Illinois. He stated he was bom April l6, 1915 at Chicago, Illln-is, and served in the Navy from 19l»2 to 19!«J* under the name of EARL r. RUBEN3TEIN. He presently operates a cleaning eatablishment in Detroit, Michigan. Prior to this he operated the Earl Products Company In Chicago, a novelty manufacturer. He said that in I9U6 his brothers, JACK RUBY and SAM RUBY, along with himself, legally changed their names from RUBENSTETN to RUBY for business purposes. He advised he heard through television and radio that his brother JACK RUBY was implicated in the shooting of I£E HARVEY OSWALD m Dallas, Texas, today. He traveled by air to Chicago to consult with other members of his family regarding the advisability r*" traveling to Dallas. He advised he was greatly shocked and siu.ined to hear of his brother s actions in Dallas and is very upset over the matter. He does not know irtiat his immediate plans are and is Tiuite concerned as to what" effect this may have upon his family and business. He stated he last saw JACK RUBY approximately four years ago while in Dallas, Texas. JACK was operating a private key club known as the Sovereign Club. At this time he noted JACK appeared to have many acquaJntances among Dallas police officers and met ?ome but does not recall any names. Many visited JACK a club even when off duty. He also noted that JACK carried a gun, and JACK expl aj.ned that he needed it because he carried large sums of money from his night club operation. He does not know whether JACK hed a permit for this gun. He stated that JACK RUBY was bom and raie.ei in Chicago end refllded in this city until he entered military service about 19^3. Prior to this, he had been employed as a business repre- sentative for a union believed to have the name Scrap Iron and Junk Collectors. This was prior to I9U0. He believes that foULowl^ this, JACK worked as a salesman for the Stanley Oliver Company in Chicago and the Spartan Novelty Company In Chicago. This company is cow out of business. Following military service, JACK RUBY returned to Chicago where he resided for several months and was not employed to his, 00 kk-Vev on 11/25/63 ntChicago. lUlttois p,l, | DL M»-l639 SA MAURICE J. WHITE w Spscial c A / SA RICHARD B. LEE /cv ^__ ^.__ ^ U/25/63 /-'/-• by . Agant I , 1 . . Dot* dletotad /7/ MM •( rsi. It la _r'" #>i JvmO^ tk« p»aMHr •< IM PBI'^M^Ia rear aqmntrftiW* Urn aaalaala or* not t* ha ^l^toll^iM MtaM* r RtJBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 3 354 CO UU-New DL l^U-l639/cv 2 EAHL RUBYfepkQowledge. About 19^6, JACK vent to Dallas, Texas, to to Vp asaist his sister, E7A GRAOT, operate a night club, believed that time. the Silver Spur. He has resided in Dallas, Texas, since EARL RUBY stated JACK, to his knowledge, has no crlminpl his. JACK has arrefit record and knows of no hoodlum asfiocietes of n'^ver professed any affiliation with any political organization or a great party. He described JACK as a patriotic individual who had respect for the late president and elfio for lew enforcement officers. EARL RUBY stated that personally he had never heard of nor had the Fair Play For Cuba Committee until the President's death, that he hrs he ever heard of OSWALD or GEORGE SANATOR. He also stated no ciiminal record and is not affiliated or associated with any subversive group. EARL RUBY stated he could give no reason why JACK RUBY shot OSWALD, except JACK is a highly emotional type and may have thought he was doing everyone a great service. EARL RUBY appeared highly upset and stated he could furnish no further information. //^ Ruby (Eabl) Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 355 FEDt£RAL BUREAU OF !NV£STIGATiO> EARL R. (initial only) RUBY was intGrvie-.vid at his residence, 29925 V/oodland Drivs, SovithfiGld, :.:ichi2ari, Ke stated he arrived in Datroit, :.:Lc:ij.z^-- oy i.:_rl:^.-i,;-; , fro.-uChicaso, Illinois, at 11:30 A.U. on ::ov^..:ocir 25, 1SS3 •where he was net by his wife, IL^JRG2, ai-.d Cliicf g_^ Police, IIIL^jG;: G. SACIffiTr, Southfield, Michigan, Police Depoj^tM-i—; He stated ha had been in Chicago visiting scnie oi' his brothers and sisters after he learned that his brother jV.CX j RUBY, was being held by the Dallas, Te::as, Police Bepartr.ent, for the slaying of LE2 KARVEY CSV7ALD. RUBY said that his father/ JC22PZ RUBZNS'J-HII-'i: Q.-^^a about five years ago in Chicago, Illinois. Ze £2aid his i...-,:-.'^r was a Russian imraigrant to this country, arriving in :..:. J.._-;ed States^ about ISOO. Ee said his :r.othcr, ?A:r.\Y, \.'as a ?oli-n iruaigrant who car.ie to this country the L_..;e ti:.:e as her ..ase._nd. Ee stated the only surviving i. ,_.;;. !„.;>- e.ee.ecrs of his f:a:-.ely are his brothers and sisters. ho ^„ic- „L1 c_' his uncles :,ne „un:;s on both sides of the family are ncv/ eeee„^^v:. he s„ie eh-re are fovir brothers and four r.:ai-ried sisters in his fae-.ily _ne ":h„e they are all living. He listed the follov/ing bro-chers ana sis-;er: with background data for each: JACK, a bachelor, v/as born appro::iriately Llsy 15, 1£11, in Chicago. He was in World V7ar II, e::act dates un:n-.cv;n. Prior to V/orld V/ar II, he was employed by Spartan ".Tcvelty Ccr.pany, Chicago, nov; defunct, dates unknown. Z/ZiL ZuZY could not recall the places of J.'i.CK's employs:cnt prior to Spartan, but din ren^nee: he v/as employed in Chicago at various places as a sdesnan. Afee; leaving the service in about 1943, he (JACIC) v/as er.plcycd by Zorl Products for approximately six rionths in 19-13 and li:-7 l,,vl . Products was ov/ned by E/iRL RUBY, and JACK and his breeher. SAII, were given equal shares in this business. Z^lTcL and S.-„: I'.YZY decided that JACK was not giving his full shoi-e of -c-r.e en ehe partnership, and also there was a personality conflict e::.e-:;eing between SAM and JACK, therefore Sa'?,! and EAP.L bought ou:: JACK'S interest in this business. JACK then received an offer fron Southfield, Michigan ,.-; :; I^etr CK;JILES I. RGBICHAUD AND SA JACK G. r^ , •• . . , 11/23/6; v/nsDirrjHP" Thl. F3I. It lo the pro^o -/V3 - Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 4 356 DS 44-563 his sister, Mrs. EVE GRANT, to holp hor optsrato a night club in Tt^xas. Ds.llfi.s, JACK dopartGd for Dallas for this purpose, -cyhich v&s £,pproxima.tsly saventeon years a^o. JACK has bei.an in the night club businsss ever since and has nado infreqnerit visits to Chicago, visiting only for deaths, marriages, etc. JACK'S clossst associates in Chicago are: BENJAMIN KAYE, ov/ner, Rogers P2<,rk Ford Agency, in the 6S00 block of Northv/estern Av&av:& Chicago., , a life-lOEg friend- and a formor Chicago policeras-iLj HARRY EPSTEIN, vho resides in the north end of Chicago aad bc^liov^d to operant -s the Lakeview Sales, a firm selling business gifts; and MIKE ' NEMZIN, owner V^einers Department Store, VZest Roosevelt Roa^d, Chicago, home address unknown. EARL RUBY advised NEMZIN recently had a serious operation on November 20, 1363. la Dallas, JACK'S close associates are: RALPH PAUL, residence and business address unknown, but he is ia thfe rcjstaurant business, and" an individual whose first name is believed to be FRANK, HOWARD, whose business and residence are unkno7/n. Ha said that JACK'S sister, Mrs. GRANT, -would knoar the ide^^tity, . residence and employment of PAUL and-- HOW ARD . /• -^c^ \r JACK went to grammar school, name uiirecalled b'iit in the 1100 block of Mozart, Chicago, with one LENOT* PATRICK. PATRICK is known by EABL RUBY from publicity to be an infamous hoodlum in Chicago. EARL said he has no knowledge of JACK'S association with PA.TRICK except on one occasion, date urikric^yn, when JACK mentioned he had gone to grammar school with PA=1"-RICK. PATRICK is not generally knov/n to the RUBY family. EARL did recall that LENNY PATRICK was the black sheep of the family. He said that PATRICK'S father was a Cliicago Policezaaa. IS^^vf's brother, JACK, who is allegjedly respectable, married a. dista:.:it cousiij' (about four times removed) of the RUBY's. Her nar^a is (first name unknown) WEINBERG. EARL had no additional kx.ow6dge of the WEIIsBSRGs. EARL stated he believed ART PETA.CQUE, a reporter for the "Chicago Sun Times, "Imev/ JACK, but he does not know under what circumstances. EARL advised he first met PETACQi:E on November 24, 1963, when PETACQL^ came to the HY RUSENSTSIN's (brother of the R'OBYs) residence in Chicago seeking an interview with the RUBY family concerning the shooting of LEE KAPJ/EY OSWALD by JACK, EARL said the family v.'as keeping out all reporters, however, when PSTACQUE mentioned he knew JACK persoBally &nd meatiosied the names, BEN KAYE and IZZY H0RY7ITZ, as mutusil friends, he admitted PETACQUE and gave him a formal press ictervie!;?. EARL said this is the only indication he had ever had that JACK knew PSTACQITB. Earl Ruby Exhibit k RtJBY (Earl) Exhibit No. 4—Continued 857 DS 44-563 EARL said he did not kncv/ of any Indlvl'dust.l 'Si:i'xasd IRVING WEIKER, however, ho knew an ERYim VfEIK^.^l, & bori'Ssaiaa and insxirance salesman, with\vhoni ho, EARL, went to liigh- school. EARL had no knowledge that TffilirSR knew his brother JACK but aay have hss,d a speaking acquaintaaco. EARL advised that as far as he knew, JACK did not .know CDS ALEX in any way. EARL said ALEX is evidently "well known in Chicago from the newspapers, but he, EARL, does not know him and reiterated he has no kaas? lodges that JACK knows him. SABL stated LES HARVEY OSW^ILD is absolute ly unknown to him, ©v®n after viewing OSWALD'S photcgrg^ph appealing in the press and on television and felt certain that OSWALD is unknown to his entire faiiily, including JACK. He stated OSWALD is "a complete stranger" to the entire RUBY family. EARL said he had no knowledge as to why JACIC shot OSWALD. He said JACK is and always has been very emotional. E/ :iL said that he talked to his sister, EVE GRANT, by telephone on November 24, 1963, at which time she advised that JACK, after hearing of President KEN^^DY's death, proceeded to the synagogue to pray for President KSIS!>32DY. He said JACK cried afterwards ;,.:.• and was very depressed aboiit the assassination. EARL said JACK is definitely a patriot and would defend any President of the United States, De^nocz^at or '' Republican, if challenged verbally, even to the oa^toji"! ' of fighting. EARL said JACK hated anything UE-Asisrican. He said JACK had never been convicted of any criaie he ksisw - of, although he was aware there had been several charges (exact details unknown) of fighting and possession of a concealed Wisapon. EARL said so far as he knew, the fighting charges were dismissed since these charges arose bscause JACK .evicted uEiTBly customers from his btisiness establiskjie^its. EARL said the only time h© knew JACK to carry a gun was when he was carrying large s\ims of rvoney in connection with his business. The only knoxi/lGdro EAEL had of this was from observation during the ticos 3.A;iL spent in Dallas with JACK. EARL said he visited J.4CK in Balia.3 on two occasions for about ten and seven days, respectively, about four years ago. The caliber &nd make of the weapon was unknown to EARL. Earl Ruby Exhibit k '/ys Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 4— Continued 358 DE 44-563 - 4 EARL stated the only reason he can think of as to why JACK shot OSWALD is JACK'S patriot isn; and his grief over tiia President's death. EARL advised he could not state why JACK had a gun in his possession on this ocpassion when ^s fi>j: as he knew, JACK carried a gun only when he had large su^s of moE^ey in his possession. EARL could not make a determination whether or not this shooting might have been preraeditatisd. EARL did not know the identity of any officers of the Dallas Police Department v/ith whom JACK v/as acquainted, although he knew JACK was on friendly terms vjith, this Police Department EARL identified the follovang individuals as his brothers and sisters, giving background infprmation concerning each; Brothers HYMAN RUBENST3IN, .-jyas -born, about" December 28., 1901, in the old country, the exact location unknov/n. He resides at 1044 Loyola, Chicago. He is self-employed as a Florist Supply Distributor in Chicago where he operates this business from his residenpe. He enter<^d this country with his parents at the age of one year, 2,nd is g. bachelor. HYMAN has resided his entire lifetime in Chicago, except when he was in the United States Army dxjring World War II. - He was at one time employed by a floral company, possibly the National Florist Supply Company, Chicago. SAM RUBY, :was born December 29_y.p.913,.JLn Chicago. E3 was married about tv/elve and a half years ago to PHYLLIS KERNS, now a housewife. He resides in Texas, exact address unknown, and - is self-employed, operating about three laundromats. SAM 'K'as associated with Earl Products, Chicago, until about 1961, at which time he moved to Dallas to work for JACK. In Dallas, he discovered he did not like the type of business JACK was in ?jid obtained the above-mentioned laundromat business. SAM served in the U.S. Air Force in V/orld War II, exact dates unknown. Prior to World War II, he was a carpenter building barracks at the Great Lakes Naval Training Station, Chicago. EARL stated that his father and the four sons were carpenters by trade at one time or another. EARL could not recall SAM's employment prior to working at the Great Lakes Naval Training Station, but he did state that he was employed for sometime ±xi, the thirties with his brother-in-law, RALPH VOLPERT, in Youngstown, Ohio, with a horn© improvement company. Earl Ruby Exhibit 4 -/7^ Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 4—Continued 359 DE 44-563 EARL advised of the following background regarding himself: He said he was born in Chicago, April 16, 1915. He married MARGE GREENE on January 18, 1947. From April, 1942 until 1944, he was in the U.S. Navy Cee Bees. Except for the time that he spent in the military service, he stated he resided in Chicago, until October 21, 1961, when he moved to Detroit. He advised that he graduated from Crane Technical High School, Chicago, in 1934. V/hile attending high school and a short time thereafter, he was employed by the Stz^nley Oliver Manufacturing Company, Chicago. He was then self employed delivering for several dry cleaning establishments' /^^ ±rca\:Q.boat 1937 to 1939. Fs^>m-10S5-iro 1942, -he-uras ^v- /f^'iT ^^ •••. employed as a carpenter building barracks at the Great Lakes e^^-^J-^^ Naval Training Station. From 1942 to 1944, he was in the U.S. / Navy. From 1944 until he sold the business in 1961, he ov/ned Earl Products. H© is presently the owner of Cobo Cleaners, 18135 Livernois, Detroit, which establishment he has owned since 1961. Sisters Mrs. RALPH (ANNE) VOLFSRT, is about -'^.y sixty years of age, date and place of birth unknown. She is a widow, her husband having died in .Chicago about three years ago. He said she resided in Youngstown for approximately twentiy years, and her^-address then was 2426 Elm Street. About four years ago she moved from Youngstown. Her husband had been employed by his brother at the National Home Improvement Company, Youngstown. She is employed as a housewife and is presently residing with their brother BY RUBENSTEIN. Mrs. NORMAN (MARION) CARROLL, .is api>roxinatel7 fifty-six years of age, exact date of birth unlcnown, crat born in Chicago. She also resides with their brother HY RUBENSTEIN. She has been employed for ipproEimately $he last ,t\7enty-f ive years by the U.S. Government, Treasury Department, Bond Section in Chicago. Mrs. EVE (21ANT (husband's first name unknown), is approximately fif'tytlar©© years of age, exact date of birth unknown, place being in Chicago. She is divorced and has resided in Dallas off and on for the past tv/enty years. When she is not resif ing in Dallas, she is-visXt-ing- in Chicago for brief periods of time. She is employed in Dallas by JACK RUBY, brother. Her current telephone nvimber is LA. 6-6258. EARL stated that he -/^^^ ' ^arl Ruby Exhibit k — Continued Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 4 360 DS 44-563 - 6 believed thcit sho \-/ziS the one v/ho convinced JACK to fjo to Dallas s.bout sixteen or sevontcon ye^irs ago. She hi.cl i, sz^all night club and cisked JACK to oporcite it. They gave up their original night club, and he now operates tv/o night clubs in Dallas. EARL stated that he did not believe she has any monetary interest in either club. ?,L^s. mHOLD (EIL23:^I) KOI.IINSICv-, apprc:-:iniate-ly iorty- six years old, resides at S724 North Daiaian, Chicago. Her husband is a public accountant v/ho, he believes, operates from his home . She is a housewife EARL advised that the above is tie complete family and that there axe no adopted children or otherwise. EAEL advised that he had no knowledge that JACIC or any menber of the family was in any v/ay connected with the Jair Play for Cuba Comiaittee or any subversive organizations. He said, in fact. Just the opposite is true, that is, every r-e.nber of the family is a patriotic /imerican citizen. He stated that neither JACK nor any member of the faitiily ever held any radical or extremists views either in politics or^ on any other subject. ,^ ""'''^''%'- EARL advised that he and-hi-s—t^-^e-^^bi^oti-ers-had their name legally changed- from RUBSKSTEIN to RUBY during 1S47 in /X;rti by EARL RUDY from publicity to be an infamous hoodiuin in Chicago. EARL has no knowledge of JACK'S associa- tion with PATRICK, except on one occasion, date unknown, that JACK mentioned he had gone to grammar school with PATRICK. PATRICK was not generally known to the RUBY family. He recalls that LENNY PATRICK was the black sheep of the family. PATRICK'S father was a Chicago policeman. JACK PATRICK, brother of LENNY, who is allegedly respectable, married a distant coiisin (about four times removed) of the RUBY's. Her name is (FNU) WEINBERG. EARL had no knowledge of this family. EARL believed ART PETACQUE, a reporter, Chicago "Sun Times", knew JACK but does not loiow under what circumstances. EARL advised he first met PETACQUE on November 24, 1963, when PETACQUE came to the HY RUBENSTEIN residence in Chicago seeking an interview regarding the OSWALD shooting. EARL claimed they were keeping out all reporters; however, when PETACQUE mentioned JACK personally and mentioned the names BEN KAYE and IZZY HOR^VITZ as mutual friends, he admitted PETACf^UE and gave him a formal press interview. EARL said this is the only indication he had ever had that JACK knew PETACQUE. Relative to IRVING ^i^EINER, EARL said he did not knov/ of any individual named IRVING; however, he knew an ERWIN ^ffilNER, a bondsman and insurance salesman, who went to high school with him, EARL. .EARL had no knowledge that 'IVEINER knew his brother, JACK, but may have had a speaking acquaintance. Earl Ruby Exhibit 5 /2^ Ruby (Eael) Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 363 DL 44-1639 CIR, JGWimam 3 Regarding GUS ALEX, EARL advised that as far as he knew JACK did not knov/ ALEX in any shape or manner EARL said . ALEX is evidently-well known in Chicago from the news media, but he, EARL, does not know him and reiterated he has no knowledge that JACK knows him. EARL stated LEE HARVEY OSWALD is absolutely unknown to him, even after viev/ing photographs in press and on tele- vision and felt safe to say that OSWALD either by name or photograph is unknown to his entire family including JAC2. He stated OSWALD is "a complete stranger" to entire family. EARL had no knowledge as to why JACK should have shot OSWALD. EARL said JACK is very emotional. EARL said he talked to his sister, EVE GRANT, November 24, 1963, at which time she advised JACK, after hearing of President KENNEDY'S death, proceeded to the synagogue, cried afterwards and was very depressed. EARL said JACK is definitely a patriot and would defend any President of the United States, Democrat or Republican, if challenged verbally, even to the point of fisticuffs. EARL said JACK hated anything unAmerican. He said that JACK had never been convicted of any crime he knew of, although ha v/as aware there had been several charges (exact data unknown) of fighting and possession of a concealed weapon. EARL said so far as he knew the fighting charges were dismissed since he was evicting unruly customers from his business establishments. EARL said the only time he knew JACK to carry a gun was v/hen he was carrying large sums of money as a result of business. The only knov/ledge of this was during the times EARL spent in Dallas with his brother, which was for about ten and seven days, respectively, about four years ago. Caliber, make, etc., of weapon carried by JACK on these occasions unknown by EARL. Earl Ruby Exhibit 5 /S —Continued Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 5 364 DL 44-1639 CIR, JGWzmam 4 . EARL stated the only reaoon he can thinlc of concerning the incident is JACK'S patriotism and his grief over the President's death. EARL advised he could not state why JACK had a gun in his possession on this occasion, when, as far as ha knew, JACK carried a gun only when he had suras of money. Therefor©, EARL could not make a determination whether this might have been premeditated. EARL furnished the follov/ing background information concerning existing relatives: Brothers: EYMAN RDBENSTEIN, born December 28, 1901, (approxi- mately), in old country unlcnov/n.Resides 1044 Loyola, Chicago, self employed florist supply distributor, Chicago, operates from residence, entered this country with parents at the age of on© year and is a bachelor. Resided at Chicago for a lifetime except v/hen in U. S. Army during V/orld V/ar II. Employed by floral company, possibly National Florist Supply Co., Chicago. SAM RUBY, wife PHYLLIS, nee Kerns, housewife, married about 122 years ago. Resides Texas, address unknown. Born Chicago, December 29, 1913 (approximately), self employed, operating about 3 laundromats. SAU associated with Earl Products, Chicago, until about 1961, at which time he moved to Dallas to work for JACK. In Dallas he did not like this type business' with JACK and obtained above laundromat business. Served in U. S. Air Force during V/orld V/ar II, dates unknown. Shortly prior to V/orld V/ar II, carpenter <" building barracks, Grsat Lakes Naval Training Station, Chicago (CI^TQ Father and four sons carpenters by trade at one time or another. EARL cannot recall SAM's employment prior to GLUTS. Earl Ruby Exhibit 5 // Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 5—Continued 365 DL 44-1639 CIR,JGV:inain 5 but did state employed for some time in 1930 's with brother-in-law, RALPH VOLPERT, in Youngs town, Ohio, with Home Improvement Company, EARL RUBY, born Chicago, April 16, 1915, wife, MARGE, nee Greene, married January 19, 1947. Entered U. S. Navy See Bees, April, 1942, until 1944, except for military service resided in Chicago for lifetime until October 21, 1961, when he moved to Detroit. Graduated Crane Technical High School, 1934. Parttime work while attending high school and for short time thereafter employed Stanley Oliver Manufacturing Co., Chicago; independent operator for dry cleaning establishment 1937 to 1939; employed as carpenter, barracks, GLNTS, ^yy^ 1 939 t o 1942, U. S. Navy, 1942 to 1944; owned Earl /f/^ Products, 1944 to 1961, sold business. Owner Cobo Cleaners, 18135 Livernois, Detroit, 1961 to present Sisters: Mrs. RALPH (ANNE) VOLPERT, date and place of birth unknown, widow, sixty years. Husband died in Chicago about three years ago. Moved from Youngstown, Ohio, . about four years ago, residence at Youngstown 2426 Elm Street for approximately 20 years. Husband ( employed for his brother at National Home Improve- ment, Youngstown. She is employed as a housev/ife. Presently resides with brother, HY RUBENSTEIN. Mrs. NORMAN (MARIAN) CARROLL, born Chicago, date unknown, age 46, resides with brother EY RUBENSTEIN. Has been employed past 25 years (approximately) by U. S. Government, Treasury Department, Bond Section In Chicago. Earl Ruby Exhibit 5 (O t\ ^ h Ruby (Eakl) Exhibit No. 5—Continued 366 DL 44-1639 CIR,JGW:maia 6 Mrs. EVE GRANT, born Chicago, date unknown, age 53, divorced, husband's first name unknown, resided Dallas off and on for past 20 years. When not in Dallas resided Chicago for brief periods. Employed in Dallas by brother, J.-'.CK RUBY. Currently possesses telephone nur„oer LA 6-6258. EARL believed that she v/as the one who convinced JACK to coce to , Dallas about 16 to 17 years ago. She had a small night club and asked JACK to operate sane They . gave up this original night club, and he nov/ operates two night clubs in Dallas. EARL does not believe she has any nonetary interest in either club. Mrs. HARbLD (EILEEN) KAIIINSKY, 6724 N. Dalnan, CJiicago Her husband is a '|>uT^lic accountant . believed to operate from home. She is a housewife, from Chicago, date unknown, and 46 years old. Earl advised that the above in the complete family. There were no adopted children or otherwise EARL advised that he is leaving Detroit during the afternoon of November 27, 1963, and will drive to his wife's parents residence at 7209 North Prairie, Lincolnwood, Illinois, telephone number OR 3-2733, for Thanksgiving and will return to Detroit on Sunday, November 30, 1963. Earl Ruby Exhibit 5 C /^ £' 1/ Ruby (Eabl) Exhibit No. 5—Continued 367 rEDERAL BUTvL;/..; O,- i.NV^STIGATIOrs rv..^ NovenbGr EARL R. (initial only) RUBY tolophonically fvirnishcd the following information: He said that since he was intervioved by SA CHAP.LZS I. ROBIdAin> and SA JACK G. T/ILSON on Novcr.ibsr 25, 1S63, he recalled that the follov;ing individuals v/ere also close friends of his brother, JACIC RUBY: lIICILs^L LEVIN, attorney at lav/, who maintains azi office on South LaSalle StJreet in Chicago. E© said the exact address was unknown to him. MOREY KELLLIAN, owner, Globe Glass Company, which is located in Chicago, but th© address is unknov/a. BARNEY ROSS, the former famous prise fighter. Ee said he did not know of ROSS' present whereabouts. ^^ .0 ." CG 44-645 BL 44-1639 a desire to do away with himself and an urge to "run away from things." He said that he was a patient at this hospital for approximately four weeks. At this time, he advised that even though he had been a patieint, he had never heard »or considered that his brother JACK was in any way subject to mental illness or depression. Speaking of JACK, he stated that he had the usual childhood diseases, but suffered no serious illnesses or injviries. He reiterated that his brother JACK had never been connected in any way with a tavern or night club in the Chicago area, and that his only connection in this field had come about following JACK'S move to Dallas, Texas. He said that, he himself had at one tine been engaged in the tavern business for about two months in about 1950, when he took over a small neighborhood tavern at Madison and California, in Chicago, Illinois. He said that he took this business over from an individual named BERNIE FELD, whose present whereabouts are completely unknown to him. He said he closed this business after "a couple of jaonths" as he could not "make a go of it." EARL RUBY was specifically asked regarding his residence in New Haven, Connecticut, in 1940. Ko stated that he had never been in New Haven, Connecticut, in his life, and that at about that period he was engaged in the dry cleaning business on Cicero Avenue in Chicago, Illinois. Earl Ruby Exhibit J KlC^ Ruby (Eabl) Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 370 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION A FD.302 (R.V.3-3.S9) 1 -Ex. No. RUDY, E;;rl Deposition- 11/29/63 r. N Washington, D.C. 6-3-64 Doto EAKL RliBY, 29925 Woodlavva Drive, advised he has returned to Chicac^o to be with hi3 brothers and sisters over the Thanksgiving Holiday. He is presently at the fajaily : /'-'' residence at 1041 Loyola Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, where he intends to remain until Sunday, December 1, 1963. ^ \V<;' He advised that he ha.d been interviewed by Detroit Agents on Z«o:v"i>:;ber 26, 1963, s.ad had a.dvised them, to the bist ol '^ his knowledge of brother, JAOl R'OBY'S, background, places of residence and occupation at Chica.go, from the time of his birth until he left for Dallas in about 1947. ' He stated that he had discussed with his sisters, ILIRION and ANN,the subjects covered at their interview with - ]> FBI Agents on the afternoon of i\ov£,;i.:;vrtr 27, 1963, and fjilt thax ^ -.^ they were substantially correct in all placcS of residence and f^ \:- ^ occupations engaged in by their brother JACK. ^/ -v Regarding an allegation that JACK possibly had a ; >n" laetal plate in his head froa: bok-o unkKov.'a iz?jury, he stated that this was absolutely untrue and that JACK enjoyed good health to the best of his knowledge and belief. He stated that his mother at one ticie was a patient ,0 0; at the Elgin State Hospital, Elgin, Illinois, where she was ^ , being treated for a mental disorder, lie stated that he was >, reluctant to talk about this, but that this ciental condition \\ was brought on by the menopause, a thyroid condition and was possibly the result of her broccn/ag over the death of her la^t born child, which occurred Sover...! years prior to her hospital- ization. He stated her stay in rj^lgin Hospital was short, and that she returned hoxe to th-i fi^i-ily and lived froa about 1S33 until her death in about 1942, when she died from a thrombosis coronary condition. •/ He stated tha,t he, himself, bad been a patient in the Veterans Hospital in Chicago, Illinois, located on the nj.^ north side of the lak«, about three years ago, which would be about 1960. He said this hospitalization was the result of his dental depression about the failuxe of his business and general financial decline. He stated this mental condition manifested itself with a desire to do away with himself and an urge to CG 44-645 DL 44-1639 11/28/63 „, Southfield, Michigan GECaCE K. PAKFET /cjr 11/28/63 by Special Agent Dcio dictctod tho'TBI. Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 8 371 CG 44-645 DL 44-1639 2 "run away from things". H© said that he was a patient at this hospital for approxiraately four weeks. At this time he advised that even though he had been a patient, he had never heard or considered that his brother JACK was in any way subject. to mental illness or depression. Speaking of JACK, he stated that he had the usual childhood diseases, but suffered no serious illnesses or injuries. He reiterated that his brother, JACK, had never b.=^CTn connected in any way with a tavern or night club in the Claicago area, and that his only connection in this field had cone about following JACK'S move to Dallas, Texas. He said that he, himself, had at one time been engaged in the tavern business for about two months in about 1950, when he took over a small neighbo hood tavern at Madison and California in Chicago, Illinois, He said that he took this business over from an individual named BERNIE FELD, whose present whereabouts are completely unknown to him. He said he closed this business after "a couple of months", as he could not "make a go of it". Records of Elgin State and Veterans Hospitals will be checked. lir. EARL RUBY was specifically asked regarding his residence ia New Haven, Connecticut in 1940. He stated that he had never been in New Haven, Conneciticut in his life, and that at about that period he was engaged in the dry cleaning business on Cicero Avenue in Chicago, Illinois. 21} Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 8 — Continued 372 PD-303 (R*T. l-2»-«0) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION December 2, 196C EARL R. RUBY, 29925 Woodland Drive, Southfield, Michigan, telephonically advised that when he v;i£s interviewed at his residence on November 25, 1963, by Burea-i A[;ents, ho stated JACK PATRICK, brother of LENNY PATRICK, an infamous hoodlum from Chicago, Illinois, married (first najr.e unknown) IVEINBERG, a distant cousin about four times removed of the RUBY family. RUBY stated he was in Chicago over the Thanksgiving holidays and discussed this particular point with various members of the family, he said he was mistaken as to xmHsE'ERG whose first name is ETHEL, being a distant cousin of the RUBY family. RUBY advised ETHEL WEINBERG, did, in fact, marry JACK PATRICK, however, she is not related in any way to the RUBY family. He said the WEINBERG family were close friends only. .^\ ^' -Ex. No. 9 , RUBY, Earl Depos it ion- Washington, D.C. 6-3-64 cR^^l 12/2/63 Detroit , Michigan File it Detroit 44-563 ;a OIARLES I. ROBICHAUD:JEP .Date dictatsd 12/2/63 an> o( the FBI. It t> th« property ol the FBI and te lo d* yout agency. Ruby (Earl) Exhibit No. 9 373 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION nnt. 11/25/63 Mr. SAUUEL DAVID RUBY, 116ie Jamestown Road, Dallas, Texas, telephone No. EM 8-5083, was interviewed in the presence of his wife, PHYLLIS FAITH RUBY, nee KERNES. Ke furnished the following information regarding fhc identities and whereabouts of the members of his ir.imediat6 -fanily; Father JOSEPH RUBENSTEIN, deceased; n^ born in Poland '-- Mother FANNIE RUBENSTEIN, nee T-^rek, deceased; born in Poland Brothers HIllAN RUBENSTEIN, age 61,1044 V/. Loyal, . — J . Chicago, Illinois^ employed as traveling salesman -^ I .n JACK LEON RUBENSTEIN, also known as -/ "-^ JACK RUBY, (has used the name RUBY since about 1946 but does not believe he ever ... had. name legally changed) J' • .. . EARL R. RUBY, nee RUBENSTEIN (legally -changed name in Cook County Superior ' -Court, Chicago, Illinois, 1946 or 1947); . .-. -.. born April 19, 1914, at. Chicago, Illinois;/ resides in Detroit, Michigan, and operates-' --. - . ..Cobo- Cleaners in Detroit' i -Sisters -J... , ANNA -icci.-;i>nt ooatalM poUher r«ooc>T3s'^.'' "^l<;ir»'jior con«ilu?i<>i>V.'Bt'.th<>;vJ?BJi It »• ih?;,pcf>po»ty.'o|.th» FQf oad U Ic ~:5.'<;7; ;» ;Nj>XS:V'-7?a-s; a partner with him in the Silver Spur, " In about 194C . SVA-'dxSsolvo'd her interest in the Silver Spur due to differences of opinion she had" with JACK with regard to the operation of the club. EVA then left Dallas and went to Chicago where she remained for about cno year. After that she traveled to Los Angeles, California, and spent quite some time traveling from Los Angeles to Chicago and Dallas, Texas. ^\A /JV' Ruby (Sam) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 376 4 DL 44-1639 In about 1955 JACK sold the Silver Spur to one ROCKY ROBINSON who had previously operated a similar business in Dallas County. ROBINSON was not able to obtain a license in the city of Dallas, Texas, and the Silver Spur was closed. During the time he owned the Silver Spur, JACK also owned two other clubs, one known as Hernando's Hideaway, and the other was the Club Vegas. One JOE BONDS was a partner with him in the Club Vegas and it is believed he also had k third partner whose name is not known. In about 1960 or early 1961 JACK acquired ownership of the Sovereign Club which club catered to professional people, particularly doctors. This club was not making money as a private club and he therefore converted it to a public club some time during the Christmas season in 1961. This club is now called the Carousel Club and is still operated by JACK RUBENSTEIN. With regard to JACK'S methods of earning a living during his lifetime, Mr. RUBY characterized him as being independent, aggressive, and a "scrapper," JACK has always been reluctant to work for anyone else and is a promoter. He said that in recent years JACK has been interested in promoting various business enterprises other than the nightclub business. These include the promotion of Min-Iron, a dietary iron supplement. This activity took place in about 1955 in association with one JOHN JACKSON of Jackson, Mississippi, <* He was also associated with MARTIN GIMPLE (now deceased) in promoting prefabricated log cabins. This was several years ago and they built a demonstration model at Grapevine Lake, north of Dallas, Texas. He said JACK is presently interested in promoting a, twist board which is being developed by a plastics manufacturer "'•'•" in Fort Worth, Texas. JACK has been friendly for some time with one ADRIAN , KIC-Hwho is from somewhere in Oklahoma and v/ho sells oil .field equipment. He is also friendly with one NED V.'EISBROAD and one SAM LASSER, WEISBROAD and LASSER are partners in the wholesale distribution of sunglasses in Dallas. He believes JACK became acquainted with HIGH, WEISBROAD, and LASSER through their patronage of the Silver Spur Club which was operated by JACK. A .//; ^ Ruby (Sam) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI- 377 DL 44-1639 JACIC is also friendly with one RALPH PAUL v/ho ov/n^ a c:rivc-in restaurant in Arlington, Toxas (possibly called the l^il ?-t) . JACK has known PAUL for several years. PAUL forcerly c-.-r-ed a bar or club in Dalla^s (possibly known as the Bluebonnet Lounge) JACK is reported to cultivate the friendship of professional r.en,particularly doctors, and to be widely acquainted among nedical doctors in Dallas. JACX's hobby is weight lifting and he is athletically inclined. He is a strong believer in physical fitness. With regard to JAQv's personality, llr. RUBY advised that although he is not a vindictive man he seems to frequently gc-; ?;•.> into fights and appears to enjoy an opportunity for physical coia'odt. Ee said this may stem from the fact that the nightclub business presents many opportunities for fighting because of the number of drunks that frequent such places. Ke said JACK is an open-minded generous person v/hen he has the desire to be so hov/ever he is rather irresponsible in the use of other people's money. Ee said that on one occasion in about 1955 JACK borrowed $5,500 from him and in about 1956 he had to sue JACK for the return of this money. On that occasion in the Dallas courts, JACK was represented by an attorney, HENRY KLEPAK. During the time this litigation was taking place, he, RUBY, visited v/ith another attorney who had previously represented JACK in a court action. This attorney told him that at one time, a fev/ years previously JACK had come to his office v/hen he v/as having trouble in his nightclub business. As he recalls, this trouble consisted of difficulties with a partner. On that occasion, JACK threatened to jvunp out the window of the lawyer's office. During the tixfie JACK has operated nightclubs in Dallas, Texas, he has become acquainted with many officers of the Dallas Police Department and it is believed he is very friendly with them and is liked by most of the officers v/ho come into contact v/ith him. From time to time he has employed off-duty officerp in his club. One of these was WALLACE RASCH and RASCH's wife, JEAN. They v/orked in the Club Vegas in 1955 during RASCH's off-duty hours. At the Silver Spur Club JACK often employed off-duty police officers as special police to keep order at the club. /^ Ruby (Sam) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 378 DL 44-1639 About two years ago, JACK had a man working as manager of the Carousel Club for about one year. This man's name was LEO, last name unknown. JACK fired this man because ho said he was stealing from him."! LEO was described as being a white male, of snuill staturo, dark hair, and a swarthy complexion. Ho was supposed to have had a wife and five children. JACK RUBENSTEIN has never niarried. Hi r.ppoars to be very fond of women and there has been only one woman who has retained 'r.±z affection for any great length of time. This worian is ALICE NICHOLS, S707 Redondo, Dallas, Texas, telephone DAvis 1-3S87, who is employed as a private secretary for an executive of the Southland Life Insurance Company, Dallas. JACK kept company with ALICE NICEOLS for approximately ten years ^nding about two years ago. JACK has no excesses such as heavy drinking, heavy smoking, or other bad habits with the possible exception of woman chasing. He is not a joiner and does not readily make lasting friendships. He is a religious man and attends the Temple Shearith Israel located at the corner of V/alnut Hill and Douglas Streets in Dallas. The Rabbi at that Temple is named SILVERMAN. Ur. RUBY advised he knows nothing about JACK'S political persuasions and has never heard him express any jarticular like or dislike of any politioa;! figure, party, or philosophy. LIr. RUBY advised he and his family see JACK only occasionally averaging about two or three times a year particularly during the Jev/ish religious holidays. He also comes on occasion to see their children. He advised the family was last visited by JACK during the last week of October, 1963. He advised that he knows of no acquaintanceship between JACK and LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He expressed the opinion that if JACK shot OSVIALD it was on impulse because he could th^-nk of no reason or motivation for such an action. y /// RxiBY (Sam) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 379 FD.302 (R.v.3.3.49) FEDERAL ^UREAU OF INVESTIGA7 .oN • _1 nnt^ Novetn'ber 28. 196: SAMUEL DAVID RUBY, II616 Jamestown Road, Dallas, telephone EM 8-5083, advised telephonically on November 27, 1963, that he has no knowledge of any metal plate ever having been inserted in the skull of his brother, JACK RUBY. He said he lived in Youngstown, Ohio from 1939 to 19^1 and did not have much contact with JACK or other members of the family in \^ \' Chicago during that time. Gv ^': (iie said he knows of no time when JACK RUBY has ever ..^, been hospitalized for any reason?) 4 •-"" He said his mother, FANNIE RUBENSTEIN, nee TUREK, was in a mental hospital in Chicago, Illinois for several months v- , in the mid 193O' s (This was the Dunning Hospital on Irving . . Boulevard, Chicagoj) He does not know the nature of the pental illness for which she was hospitalized but believed it may ; have resulted from the loss of a baby. He added that his mother underwent an operation for removal of a goiter in the mid 1930's in Chicago. Her doctor was HYMAN RUBENSTEIN, MD, a cousin of his. He advised that he knows of no Diabetes history in his family and knows of no epilepsy history in his family. He advised that his brother, EARL RUBENSTEIN, within the past two years, was hospitalized in the psychiatric ward of a Veterans Administration Hospital in Chicago, Illinois, or Detroit, Michigan. He believes this was as a result of EARL having suffered a nervous breakdown. (ke said he knows of no other indication of any mental illness in his family/) . Jx.No.2 RUBY, Jam- Deposition Dallas, T xas 5-29-64 11/27/63 „, Dallas, Texas p.,^ ^ DL 44-1639 by Spocicl Agon. ALBERT SAYERS/jn. Dote dictated ^^/^'^/^^ .^ ^^ ThU f;rat.e<3. by his brother, JACK R'JBY, rfe fu-ther ^vl-ed that 'le 1^ ro^ evHre th^t hlB n«ne her. ever app^'.a-'Pd on atiy "^.c^ijc^pnt ".?. an officer in the S 8: 3 Torporaticn or In "ny w^y 1r th*^ op«fation cf the C'^-^ovi'^e.l flub or the CJub Vepa? H'^ ^Avi^eA th.'it .T/\fK- puFf^ '•oinetlme wt*hia ^h'- pa'=-t ;>v iDcrthTi: intTf'i?-! *•-> 'Viv^* him «^-V""» cf th" Ve^a: f^xib" as <>. r^.T-jlt r,f JA'TK^.T^ b wtn^ ar, ^.-r-ytrf-r:*-. 'ith his -l?ter, Z^.' F.I.TSY, vho hCL:3 been Tanvlr? r.he riiab V^^.? Hf p'=^.jA. however, that JACK Pv'BY ha? never ar+i;a:?ly t.ynM <-ver t.iiy of the ovnership of the Club V^.TM? to Mm. t*v aaid that J«.CX' "T^^f ptill bvp- him « h'-.l^'nce of ircut -r.'.OO on $S.5'*X> ?o-n >Jhich he nv.d- -to .V-CK" In about 1955- ••:. He sajd tn^ I'v.ot rayire-n' 'j.- Tf5/,3 in =>bcut 19^8, I"' vhen their f-.-'her, 0::f>J' ^-JT" -iTEIS, ;-?-'el in Chi".^*?o, >i-i JArK-nDY fMld hi.-=, S'M'^, -^Jr.^., -n/, t irr r"-'-m PtIa'?? to fTbic'^'^o to •..t'c-na th?lr father's fi.m--r..l K- further af-'j-^e^ r.hct; pcTD'=-t;ltne d^rinT tht? f'^ai . or earJy "irtv-^r of .".^'6:^ hi:- 'l^t-'^r, ^^\1^T'":^' cy^RPOIT., visited In Da-lla? >md, ''hi?e hei-e Joan'^i "*rK ^^'t^Y a f-:.l-.'ly IS'Ti^ft sutj of money. }>. <^aid -nhe 1-i+e- re^— ..-tt'-'d n.-iking thi i loan nal hir brotl.Rr, F-ARL, c^JT'^i to D"!.'-!-- -ocic"* in)p in rrK. S-irincr of T.^oA for he vui-for^e cf reco-^ering tv- -m--jn'- cf thl ''oin fc" MArif^7, T.^. .s-.id he rlor-? not V-.nc-* if 2A?L wi :"--',- •-'t : .'.n thit- ':tt-j;nrot or if SARL ivil 1,1 liAF.ION th? -imount of tft^ !<- r rd thereby bec'.ice a cr-.ciitor of JACK P.raY .0 fin'^r.^xpl i'.t^r^--* -ir t>- ..•-ir--- :? c- riT " ' ;.' -t r"?!!-''", by'- .;f h'.^ ([(:''• hnv-. -h-< r/ - t n v h - - r out cf T,he ibov<;.njert.i^«pe<"; loan He '•onc'ole.i by -t-^+in^ +h^-^ he hi.= no kpcvr?.e3.ge of the flnanci'U. or crror-xe '^*rii-:njr-.» ..f '-'' S « P Co-^ivirar ion or cf the Carcu.-ei :j.-jb or "''.ub 7egs^ T} I'v.-, Te//:.^. w of : ril« f by Special Agent /^RFif.T 2A\PS/r-,^ . Dot* dictated n/po/o^ Ruby (Sam) Exhibit No. 3 381 FD.30J (R.v. 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTlGATluN yl< id (SA>ffl:fEL DAVID Eli BY , 11616 .J^.t:-..-..'. :'^-t. R.?ad, Dallas s Texas aSvised teleph>oaxca.ily thac he Kr. >•- cf :, no trip to CiuibiJi laaide by JACK RUBY at any tioio Ic vas explained to Mr. FWB^sf tliat if such a trip were made-, ic had been alleged JACK RUSY made the trip with a gambler from Yq::z Worth, Texas. He ssraggested that aiiich a peririti nay have been a maim fey the name of KG WILLIE 5 whcm he- has heard mentiomed as a gaiabler and as a fi-iend of JACK RUBYy In addition to the fiQ-reg'oirig^ Mr„ FIJbY advised that ©n Decerobes 4^ 1963, EAFL RU'EY his b.ro;:her» .;, caaie to Dallas fro.3a Clhiicago 9 I Llinoi.s , and i*?hile in Dallas visited JACK ROSY at the Dalll.«s O^^'aia.y Jail, J?e advised that in talkiing t€o EASL RWSY be deteOT^lncd that EARL suggested to JACK FUM and JACK' a attorney, Mr. HOWARD, that if additiojial legal assistai^ce in JACK ruby's defense were needed he knew a good attorney in Chicago Illinois, by the naa^ of CHARLES BELLOWS. Mr. p .0 RUBY said it was his wnderstanding that EARL RL'BY left ~ ^ ^^^'N. Dallas on the raight of December 4, 1963., co reti^E-n to ^ '^ -f Chicago for tfee purpose of cOimsaltiag BELLOWS rcgardi:ig ^ (-^, the defense of JACK EHIY and who is to telephone either \j '^ Mr. HOWARD ox EVA L„ GSAKT on or alb^at December 5^ 1963 to let them know whether or not Mr, BELLOWS will enter the defense of JACK ROW"s case. ^ MCo RBSY advised he has been approached > \. "^ by EVA L. GRAOT and RALPH PAM. regarding his possibly helping out at the Caroasel Glab during the week endSo \>; He said he does not kn^tsw vhether or not be will do it. 'v-v He said that Kfn PA6L has advi&ed him that he is getting hia 50% of the stock in the Carojiasel Club. He said he has seen bo legal papers ©r evidence of such a stock transfers and does not kmow friism whom this stock will be transferred to him. :.No. ff RUBY, J-.:n De-csixior. Dallas, Texas 5-29-64 c a ?(;> 12/5/63 Dallas s, Texas DL 44=1639 Of Fii« # by Spociol Asont AL3EFT SAYFRS/Aoh ' Dot. dictated 12/^,^f^^ |L Thl. docuisant contain* nailhsr rccommandatlons not conclusions ol the FBlT II U the property o{ th» FBI ond U loan* k your ag*ncy; it and it* content* at* not to b* dUlribut*d outsld* your aqancy. Ruby (Sam) Exhibit No. 4 382 EDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ,i ^n^ i''- DcJo 1/22/61; ,j KAROLD RUSSELL, employee, Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas, advised'that on the- after- noon of November 22, 1963, he was standing on the lot of Reynolds Used Cars together with L. J. LEWIS and PAT PATTERSON, at which time they heard shots come from the vicinity of Patton and Tenth Street, and a few seconds later they observed a young i-7hite man running south on Patton Avenue carrying a pistol or revolver which the individual was attempting to either reload or . place in his belt line. Upon reaching the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, the individual stopped running and began walking at a fast pace, heading west on Jefferson. RUSSELL advised that he and PAT PATTERSON proceeded to the area of Tenth and Patton Avenue '"and that L. J. LEV/IS went into the office .of Reynolds Used Car Lot to call the Dallas Police Department. RUSSELL advised upon arriving at the intersection of Tenth and Patton he observed a Dallas uniform police officer lying on the ground in front of a Dallas police car, and from all indication the ..Dallas .police officer was apparently dead, RUSSELL , adviced the police' of ficer' s weapon was lying on the front seat of the Dallas police officer's car. At this point an unknown indi- vidual stated to RUSSELL, "Let s take the police officer's, gun ' ' and go get the S.O.B. who is responsible for this." .,_„,_.,. RUSSELL advised he informed the unknown individual that he'v70uld remain at the police car so he could advise the other police officers upon their ."arrival of the direction in-, which the person responsible for the shooting had gone, RUSSELL advised approximately five minutes later' Dallas police officers arrived, at '.-rhich time he informed them of the general direction in which the person. app£:rently responsible for the shooting had gone and also -he fact" that WARREN REYNOLDS and PAT PATTERSON, employees of Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, had attempted to follow the individual as he headed west on Jefferson Street. RUSSELiL advised he had furnished the foregoing informa- tion to the Dallas Police Department on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. RUSSELL advised he was not a witness to the actual shooting of t&e Dallas police officer and could only testify 1/21/6^^ Dallas, Texas "' ^ ^. „ DL 100.-lpi^61 JC:-:m T. KESLER and i/oo/c, -l/ ^^/ p^ -Vy::?""'^ mitciie m lac d°'« f^ic-a'od Russell Exhibit A 383 DL 100-10451 2 to the fact that he had observed an individual whom he nov? knows as LEE HARVEY -OSWALD leaving the scene. RUSSELL positively identified a photograph of LEE l-ARYSY OSWALDj New Orleans Police Department // 112723 taken August S, 1933 as being identical with the individual he had 3 observed at the scene of the shooting of Dallas Police Officer J. D. TIPPIT on the afternoon of November 22, 1953, at Dallas,- Texas. Russell Exhibit A —Continued 384 Richard L. Saunders Exhibit 1 FD-302 m»T. 3-5-53; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date December 5, 1963 1 Mr. RICHARD L. SAU^T'ERS, Advcrtlr.ing S'lesmsn for the Dallas "Morning News", hom- iiddr^^ss 3553 High Vls'd, tclaphone number CH 7-9059, Dallas, Tsx.as, was intsrvicwed in tho J advertising section of the Dallas "Morning hews and h's >^ furnished the following informations ^ C He was near the Triple Undsrc^iss in Dallas, Tsxas, \3i;^ on November 22, 1963, at ths tin? of tht- President's assassination >^ SAUKT)ERS' location was approximately 100 yards from the Texas . , ^^ School Book Depository Building.. --SAUIJDERS was niar the inter- ^"^ . v.- section of Elm Street and St-.-nrnons Freeway, which is approxl- a '-i ^ mately 100 yards from the Tnzas School Book Depository Building. y > , He said that after the President's car went by him to the hospital he drove to the Dallas "iloming News'' building and ^., -^ ^J 'y. ^ i went to his desk on thft second floor of that building. He "<^ A estimated that it took him a total of 10 minutes to arrive /• '^ i at his office after the President's car passed him and said V i^ "^ this would make his arrival tine at approximately 12:40 p.m. ^^ ^cj He advised that when he cams to the Advertising Section of th^ building, he saw JACK RITBY who was standing } near Mr. SAUNDERS' desk, and was not actually at that time sitting in SAUNDERS' chair. RUBY was "ashen whit-s" in the,, V X ' face, and was visibly shocked when SAUISSRS first saw him/' SAUNDERS felt that RUBY was probably more'^shook up'^than ^X%"^ any of the other people in the office at that time, -^ JACK RUBY has habitually come to the Dallas "Morning " ^^^ News" on Fridays for a long period of time and it was certainly not unusual for him to be in the Advertising Section at that time. Mr. SAUNDERS believes RUBY has always been a person striving for recognition but he wanted this recognition for doing the right thing. SAU^EJ^S first called on JACK RUBY six or seven years ago when Rl^BY was operating the Vegas Club and SAUr©ERS Ms the impression that RUBY has always tried to run a clean show. RUBY apparently tries to keep his shows on a little higher plane than the average stripper show. SAUNDERS vjas of the distinct impression that RUBY was genuinely shocked and was in fact dazed after hearing of the President's assassination. He said that if it turns out <; (I a ^^ 12/4/63 „, Dallas, Texas p.,^ ^ Dallas 44-1639 JA'fc^C B. PEDEN and by Spoclal AgenB .TAMFiS E. GftRRTS^BT. ^ Data dictated 1 ?/4/6^ oKhs FTBI. It distributed outside your aqency. Saunders Exhibit No. 1 385 Richard L. Saunders Exhibit 1 DL 44-1639 2 that RUBY had any connection with OSWALD, It will "be the biggcDt error I have ever made In my Judgm-^nt of a person," When SAUiroERS originally ctarted 'contacting JACK RUBY In 1957 for RUBY'S advortlsenonts, he gave RUBY credit on occasion for his (SAUNDERS) convenience. He never doubted\ JACK RUBY'S word at any time and RUBY never turnad out to ) be a bad credit risk but always paid off exactly as he had agreed. To SAUNDERS' knowledge, RUBY never carried a gun on his person except on occasion when RUBY would be carrying ', money. He has seen RUBY on numerous occasions at his desk In the club counting money and generally RUBY would have a gun with hlra either on the table or In a drawer of the table. On one occasion he saw RUBY with a sizeable sum of money in a bag and sav; RUBY put a gun 1^ *-hn same bag. He does not believe that RUBY carried a gu.; unless RUBY had large sums of money. in his possession. RUBY was known as being a "woman chaser" according to SAUNDERS and was believed to be particularly Interested in the strippers who worked for him. RUBY was known by SAUI?DERS to respect authority and the President of the United States vms theoretically the highest authority in the United States, For this reason, SAUNDERS believes that RUBY was particularly sh-akon up over the President's ascassinatior., and this could have been the reason that in SAUNDERS' opinion that RUBY eventually killed OSWALD. He said that RUBY could have continued to brood over the fact that OSWALD shot the President. He further said that on the morning of th® shooting of OSWALD, RUBY may have had the gun on because he might have had a large sum of money on his person and in SAUI-fl^ERS' opinion could h^ive gone to the police department without intending to kill OSWALD. He characterized RUBY as being a highly nervous ' individual but he was of the opinion that RUBY did make some efforts to upgrade himself and his shows. He pointed out that only a short tine before the assassination RUBY had told hlra that he (RUBY) had recently gotten an injunction against other burlesque show operators so that they could not advertise their Amateur Nights. He advised that the Amateur Nights had been advertised and on these nights either girls who had never stripped before or girls who would hold themselvoo out as never having stripped before would put on shows. RUBY v/as well pleased that he had arranged to stop the advcrtiscMient of these nights. Ci i\ Saunders Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 386 Richard L. Saunders Exhibit 1 DL 44-1639 2- SAUNDERS related that during the' seven years he has known RUBY he has carried on conversations with him quite frequently. At no time did RUBY ever discuss or mention politics or President KENNEDY. He also informed that he knew of no relationship between RUBY and LEE HARVEY OSWALD. ^l 7 Saunders Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 387 fi«o«nl)«r 3. 1963 Hr, J, S, a-arry Chlof of Pollo« SabJ«ott Traaoorlpt of 2elio Los Shooting: of Proal4cat iCoDoviijr Eovecber 22, 1963 Slrt The followlas wco reoorCtM on chcnr.al two, f ron IOjJC to S^"-:. T^ils rojwrt Inoliidea Infonu&tlon prior to t'ao arrivsl of th'; Preaiaont'i plena, profrresB of tho ootoroaie, tha shootiaT, end Ihe caoc; . to ?crlclc:ii I.'ocpit;il, /.Iso Inoludod AT» vvent* oonaoiTjlD' tha ahootiu.; of o.'floer Tlpplt. 10 J 25 /it 30-531 -:rGi;.i eatinctos 5^0. ^'onthars cleorln.^r 21 c-u 32 liiap^iohsd to oli. torvlnal bullcifl.7 to c«ot ;:0 for Msl-n-jnt. Grc-v. cnlrate 1200, 531-30 '.'haa you ixsc-ivo lnfc-r;ctlv3 froa the tovor en that plnr.o, EOtliV 531. (JuJ XM^-AXT^t26m *-39 '7iic7 cliav^Ji l-cr;j.inc -llrcotlona on os, did 70a notloe. 30-'* Yj3, sir. r:.- • will ftivo to 8T3t r- or. : jokic^'blta. , / ^ ll:2aAM 30-531 /Ir r'-ircs Cno 1j ai .';o ."i..'. •JrC '-''- ^" llf30AM 9-2 '2ol'iSir.j abcat rcn ::v..-.-c-r on Main, 30-531 i-ir -ioroe C/:3 tcrtsi, :cj final spppoeoh. 20-21,32 Cut your trr.r.'.-;, £1 r.. 32 IC-^ , Tolk'n/^ about r; a pc-vor on i'aln 531-2 /Ir ior:o Cr,: oa fli-.il rn-'ro-ch now 3C-531 Cne plfjio ...c?/a, aecorhi cowing in, Air Fopoe Cce right b-ihi-.U. , // ^iny»/M 2-9 VivlIdiVT abo-it cirpovor. 531-3J In Air Force 0:o dov/Q yot? 30-531 To, Ji59t coniia:: In. Cne is on tbe firouoi. 5-531 5^1-21,32 All clear. 30-531 /ir Foros Cr.o not oa tho ^roual yet. 31-21.32 Ec?ialn on youi' sslt^novintQ. i '^-531 II9 1b oroa-ii.v; aown to-«fO Lallea now, (a:uVv-5I.37/w 3C-531- /Ir To POO CjG is on tho ei-ouad, 53I-"1.32 Eotum to ae.-vloo. 5&1-30 Wecther aci oroixi eatlrcto 10-531 Good and oppro-^laatoly 2, COO 20-531 sjiite a ora.-d nt Lossson ani ^ookln-T'SJini near the Coon Cola pl^nt. A.c^.^'-'^' 250-125 Talidng about re-aseigocent of offioer to Lesson and Hersobel. Sawyer Exhibit No. A 388 UIU5/M 531 Stotlon Broete Junt ahookin.-' ooerusloatlona, I'd st th« front gat* nov. /: p/-i Lc'aJL cn.1 clojiT, r-.. vv. L • >(^^. /N/-^A -y 280-9 ar«y 3t. io ooiirlotaly bloclc&i. with peaestrlaai. Conplotoljr out of cofltnsl. 9-200 1*70 rot t^'O ;-oncrvoo I'd 'brltvTlnc dovn now, Ci...^^''^ ::oo-9 I havo ^hi-oa or fc:i* thrao wbooloro una I osa't <;•* ^^ pocplo off -r/oy, it'a ooaplotoly oloscd, 5-2B0 IC-'f I'c on vy siay, ^'^"'.,x..^'-'.V^^ ^..x-^^/ ^-^^ ^ > />' 15-2-531 i'roiTroan ror-jrt. St,-:jii by a i"( v clnvitas, iire tjiey itsvIe^ yot? .'x.v«not ot.-ixtoJ. yot. i^ovio;: out v«ry alov. liOt of traffla up t'atTo aroun^i lioa::in5bli\i. Eight •owl a coloi-\5/olo cot the.-: oTor to cno ei-ie. .usort cotor aoru tvo cea to ''/. Just ::cu.o t:io tum out of tha flold on to Codar Sprlnga tz'civsiin,': at thin tica 15--^^»J /re you rosaiiv: ell rij;ht7 .^^Mv<-v/'-^^';>^^15-2-531 lio. Lcavic-: the fioli on Csdsr Sprln^rs at 15;-'ii. :-J,:ht nocl a t.^toi* at iUinor ''cy uji Lcrcon. liuito a fev people oa L^T.con on both slu.89 of the street* ourb, and rc^ic.n atrip. Loociioa re./ yii'aro;JO s.'i* i ?cl;ir'., -bim i'irlrocs c.'i ;'oii::in,:''jir,i tr-ivolln^ 15i'n{. >.prociohin- Invooi i'u. oa Lecr-.on /wonu* t revel in<',- about "-^u^J 12^.^? vu^ 1-531 12 to I5;.ru. .^ /^..t t^tcUU-'- 531-15-2 liivon li-.forr.atlcn oa ioactioa. 15-2-531 ?iivoo rfriV;on'; iaforoation If cr:bulra30B aro otaadias by, r ,-^-^>fi¥X- 601 is stcnllri; >i7 ct Love I-'ioU, ca 90oa r.n ho oo:rplet«a that C3al:-:ncant, he is ^oinn to your location, elao a traasfer cn^Vjlanaa will bo at thr.t loc-tloa. To cotoroyolo3 leiainc, drop baok olosor, hold up ao bo -7- ' obout fifty foet ahead of U3, about fifty f»ot ahesd of us. OS, ,7D .'.Ucoj.. f- i^^f^/^^"-' 531-15-2 601 is inroute to your location. 5-1 3x30 St ion ^7/proaohin,-T Cotton 2^1t ur*iorpaaa noar ;.'cr;a /Ita, 15-2 Oivon location Cotton 3c It caci. Loua /Ita, l-ooort thno or four cileo feater. Pull thooa oars off tho street. Cut truffio at Oak Leva, Protty cood arcrjiX of people oa Turtlo Croalr, dovra to tvo liujea of traffic, 10-4 Cot a good notoroyol* eaoort, e«t tba traffic off of It, 531-1 /ro you Bearing Oak Lawn? 1-531 Ve ore a block avay at ^Ight Strsot, Lecx:oD nearin^ Osk Lawn. iiooourt drop down out traffio at Turtl« Craolc. ^^h Sawyer Exhibit No. A —Continued 389 Crossing Oak Laira. . ^^"^^i^ 531-1 AdTise thrss tlM anbalaaoAs bar* •rrlvad aal an Btanling by. G,.c vVi|2illPH 1-531 Tuxuioff oa Surtls Crssic from I>«sboo 12MPB. Loa«tioo Jast cross inc Oodar Sp zincs. Looctlon K/CT undsrpasa at Turtle Crsolc. ^tvL^, r:W2/42tl4PH /" 15-2-531 10-1* £aoort thzeo or four Dlles p«r hour faster. l«ts tX7 it* ^12il5»l ^ Station Broalc ^^rT^; 531-9 On Cedar Spring off Turtlo Crask. Cedar Spriosa and Fai mount 1,^1 y)x^x.Jv^tlSSH^ 139-531 For infozcation. ostb aro lined on both aides of Stennon* on tho sfaouldoTS f rosi CoErerse to Qsk Lavn. A good pedoatrlan orcwd Eoas and Karwooi iVerTthing in (Tood shapd out here &t Karicet Hall* 7raffio B07ing veil, not any erovd on the side of the street* food orard alon^^ tha ed^s of the barrioades, Civen information about Stesoona. ^^ Kov at Hazvood and MaKicnoy. /dvise keep oroud ofvor about Hatvool to Soss» they are Ju-i^^TWl-^^ ^ttin(; out in the street here. We'ye cot them. Sooa and Esrwood. Crovd on I'-ain Street in real good shape. Got then all back on tha ourb. (Tz^.-vV-l . X^.7/A-^ 1.5 Oood shapo, about to cross Live Oak. Esoort drop baok. go real slov speed nov approaohing Kalii. Tou reading? 10-i* Hold up escort. OZ, lEore along. " ' ^=^1-531 Chock to see if we've got eveiythiae la top otasek with the rear oar. ^ .. C^^ 531-1 ' Vho is in the rear oar? 153-531 Advise eve ly thing is OS. O* -k^i.d 1-531 , Vhere is 158? 153 Juot crossing Xrroy Street. ^/VJ^ 531-1 I>ooatioo nov. 'Ci'-'^'m- 1-531 Field ^A^.26Pk/^ ^ ^ ^ ^/W 1-531 531-1 Crossing Laaar Street nov Is thore iax a pretty orowl/there. lA tiieii Big crowd, yes. '' y.^^-fr-r^A-'*^»28«( 5-531 notify Captain Scuter the looatioa of the oonvoy bow. On Main probably Juot past Lanar. Just crossing Market Street. Talking about the traffio at love 'ield. Searing tripi^le under pass 12i30I>M ' Station Break. Oo^ihe hospital, officers, Farklaal Hospital, have thea stand by. Get een on top of the under pass, see what happened up ^ere, go up to the over pass. Have Paxidaad | •tan& by. J Sawyer Exhibit No. A —Continued 390 ^^^^^"^ Dallas-l I«B Buro It'a goinc to tok* «oii» tli» to K«t year mb ia thai*. Put ovaryona of my s«n thor». Gcc^^"! 531-1 Scpoat On«, I didn't quite xiadoratand all of It. 6^-^ 1-531 Eotlfy etation five to cove all cen arailaWo out of BUT department 'baolc into the railroad yaxds end txy to detonsiae vhst happoosd eoi hold evezythlng seours natil Uoalolde anl other investigators oaa e«t la there. a^v^/ 531-1 10-4 ^c.vv-»,3XPK 1X531-1 itaf inforeatlon vhataoevor I (j^v-vy 1,531 It looses like the President haa been hit, have Paxiclaad •tacd by. ^< vw 53i_i Parkland has boon notified. Ve hove 'C-^ units la that vicinity, don't we? Straifiht to Parklaad. i^hat diopoBition do you want se to make with thaae oen Z hcive with DO. Just ^0 on to Par'tclaod Hoapital with ne. Get out of the way, aomothiOjS about trucks, hold eveiythicg, get on the w&y(Tlce^s Eocozd not too clear) ^j^^. 6-^^-^^31-15-2 Thoro la a ootoriyolo ofi'loer on Stemaona with hie mike Btuo)c open oa ohannal one, could you aend Bon»body up there ciU. tell hlD to shut it off. ^JihJ^ 12134PM 190-531 You want De to etill hold traffio 00 StaBsona ostll we flad out eonethlnt:? Zeop everything out of the ioeitranoy Entrance. / r>s5sor-by states the ahote oace froB the Texaa School Book De-osltoiy B-oildlas Oat evarythlag out of the way. ^.io i-vwy 531-136 Cat all the ioforcatioa. 1205 ^ ^42-531 I talked to a guy at tho eoezje who acya tho ahota were fired fron the Texra Schoo'? Book Lepoaltoiy Bullilng with the Herts Boat A Sicn oa top. ^/.M-^^'^^M^^ 531-142 Get hla ncse, Eildreaa, phone noisber end all Inforoatlon you ecn. €)^i^^^^^;^W 15-2-531 i'dviso all ec«rgenoy traffic to uae aooo other route besides iDduatrlal ana have 233 out traffic at Hlnea ani. Induatrlal, 531 Bro,3dioa9t sace. |4.^-^^^*^»36™ 260-531 Vltneas asya ahota case fron fifth floor Texaa Book Seposltoiy ^ . w< store at Houaton and £ln. I have hla with b» now and we ar« aealine off the bulldinf:. 220-531 Vn'hore do you went traffio out in the area, 531-220 £aep all traffio off Xoduotrlal and the emergenoy sntrsnos at Paricland. Aa.t.'-'^'"'-^- 125-531 Vo have the oear^ncy entrenco aeoure. Oat con to cover ths bulldins Texaa Sahool Book: Doposltory, H^^i-'V'--^ 12t37W 142-531 believe ths ahota aaasa fron there, facing it oa Sin St. looldng at the buildicg it will be the aeoood window froa tho end in the upper right hani comer. /^---H^y^'^*^ 531-1'*2 How many do you h£ve there? /^^iW^-'^ 142-531 One guy possibly hit by a riohocbete off the oooorste ana another szaas seen the Pzeoldent slunp. £> e^ i^v^^-^^-ozise 137-531 A wltnesa says he saw *ea pall the weapon froa the window off the seooni floor oa the south east oomer of the i>«posltoz7 talldin£. Sawyek Exhibit No. A —Continued 391 C.%- /?'t^'- -12138111 £0 70a bare ths tallding aavrti oft e..^ /^v'^- ^— 531-S37 137-531 I'm Qbout thraa fourths of 8 block evejr. t' -5- Z^^—^2:1^31-137 Seport there. - /^^^37-531 I'll leava tbs witneoa hera. (i^a^M^^ 2-531 Can 70U £lT9 UB &n7 ioforcatloo ai to vhat h£27p«D«i for tha531 What hospital did the President go toT /^Wu-^- 531-303 Parkland Hospital. Where are youT /,f,,>m^<.^i^ 30>531 300 ia enroute. TLj.^ 531-303 Is 300 in route to the a tore Bin and Houston? '^J^.:^. 303-531 295-531 300 enroute to the iicspltal. Diere^azxi what I said. jr/^<.e.. j^b^^^^ 531-295 I>o 70a know the extent of the injury? tl,. ''a v--^ 295-531 It*a not for ina to aay« I can't say. dlaregazd that raaaxk. iu,pA^^ 531-295 Vhera did 70a ^t your inforsoation. I waa at t;-ie oar. u/,>,w4:- 295-531 260-531 Send sa a squad for a prisoner at Sin and Eouatoa. 'T^J,^.. Iio you have the auapeot? yL.'.AvU-v' 260-531 Ho. Did they aiviee they have th^ ouapeot. Eo. Ihey do sot haire the suapoot. oj^^yf'^r;.^.9-53i Ve need more ccn power down here jst the Texas BooTc Eepooltory there should be a bunoh on Main if socebody oaa plolc then up aiu brin^ thaa down here. 250.531 I'll start down liln end piclc up as cany as I oan. 190-531 I've got nyself saa five Eotoroyole officers holdlns traffic on Stes3Dona. do you want ce to release traffic or hold it? 531-190 Eeleaae traffic end report cede throe to ilia and Houston. 15-531 Ar9 you having tb« contain the block eurrouodin^ the building. 531-15 Tea, we ere saalint; tho building until it oan be searched. 15-531 li^xteod it out to include two or throe bloci: aroa. 9-531 Ttie wanted person in thia ia a slender white sale about thirty five feet ten, one sixty five, oarzying what lookad to ba a 30-30 or aone type of Vinehoater. S^^-^-2-53l Will n«ed two cor« oars to report to th« Praaiaant'a plana out hora for asoort aarvice, ploaae, air. I hova ona that aav tha Prealdent gat hit is 197 oar. Qu^r^> 19-531 I'b on tha Sin St. trlpla undaipsaa bafora you go up on Stasmions, '»92-531 Va'va ^on Inatzuoted to £0 to tha aoaoa, what oodaT 531-^2 Codo tbna. X. 531 Celled 5t no answar. ^JL<^ /!., 15-531 5 eni 9 ara both in tha building* ^.^-/^ 531-15 Oivan Information froa 19. Got condition yat. c^M-^ 531-15 £0. ^9-531 Ha didn't aeo the shooting, ha asw the Praaident gat hit. 531-2'H Coda throa blood \zxiK 2100 Coansaroa. take blood to ParidaDd* yfefcf"^- 16 oloaer. ecdo pic'.cup. ItO^fH 309-531 Vhat squcd has that aubjeot that wca auppoead to have aaen tha ehootln,^. 531-309 ne did not saa tba ahootlc^ 309. Ha aaw tha Praaidant £at hit, that is 19* ha has tha parson in hia oar. 309-531 Tou hova information it oama froa tha Book I^apoaitoxy dotm hara. 531-309 Yea. 309-551 10-ft. Is well oover».i off. 2i»l-531 Coda FiTo blood bank. !•• got it and frona. 3/UA^" 1^31-16 Oodo four. ^;3u-^^531 Contact flfteon, aaa if ha thinks it savlsabla to aand people froa out t:kK hare, down there to relieve aoma of the aqn^a on duty. Ct 15-531 10-4 ^^cil^"^' 15-531 Get 15-2 to put paopla on tha railroad traolca at hia looation to work book towant Houston. ItlBPH A oitizen oasse on the Pslioa Bolio atating, 'Hallo polio* operator." 531 Go ahead oitizen uoin^ the polioe raiio. The oitisen than Baid,*Va*Te had a shooting here.* 531 Vharo ia It at? 531 Citizen uains police radio ^ve ua looation. Citizen then aaid. "Tenth Street." 531 Vhat looation on Tenth? Tha oitizen than aald.'Betwaen Maraalis end Baokljr, it'a • polioe offioer, soBabodjr abot hip." Be than aaid 404 Tenth Street. 531 Called «%a«d 78. Sawyee Exhibit No. A —Continued 394 Citizen then sald.^Xt's in polio* #10, 531 Called 78 eeain. Cltlzoo than 8ald« *Toa got that." 531 Called 78 sealn. Citlzon then eald. "Hollo, polio* operator, did jroa e*t that?" 531 Signal 19, InrolTlng a poUoe offloor, 510 3. Jeffomon. Citizen than said, "Thank jrou,* 531 Citlsan ualn^ pollae radio roc^iln off radio oov. SsToral elocIc. Sor.0 one said, "jl Police Offloer vas Jost shot, X thlxdc ho la dead." 531 10-4 Hsve that Inforssatlon oitlsen uslnf; raxlo, retsaln off rsdlo now. 531-15 Chancel two. 15-531 Z'q using a three wheel eotor, will hove to go to another radio. ^Jli^ 531-15 Sid you receive inf ortcatloa on the police offloer helng shot? ^^A-^' 15-531 10-4. iJldn't that citizen say first ho was oa Jefferson then Tenth then Chesepoak. 531-15 Tea. ^^.^"t ri5-531 Did they relajre . ^^ 531-15 Tes, at Denver. 531-91 Eave a ei^al 19 involving a police officer 400 E, Tenth sunpect last seen running west on Jefferson, no aescrlption at this time. a)^^/i>:^'85-531 I Jiiet pasned (for the next few ninutes there was quite a bit of oonfuoion as to location of shooting and suapoot). UZZm 85-531 fisve a description on the suspect on Jefferson. Last seen flljout the throe hnndred hlook of Sast Jefferson. Vhlto oalo thirty.flTe eight, hlaok hair, slenlor build wearing whlto jacket, white ehlrt, dark slaoka. UJ^i^'^31-85 Azeod with what Unknown. Soseriptioa robxoadoast aoToral tlBos, Sawyer Exhibit No. A — Continued 395 lt25PM 531^257 257 alspatchea to Valloy Blooa Bank ood* thr«« osoort to Parfelani, M9 ijelitfTS v«'ve got this suapoot iu ths ahootlB^ of this officer, cot his white j£okot* baliovo ducpei. It on tbla p&rkin^ lot bohlixl this oeivioo tctioo st '^O £. JeffonoDt coorosa froo i>uule/ >!a^b9a aiU ba b&l a vhlt* Jsoteat on anl ve )}oliev« this is it. 531-279 loa do not h&vo tha suapoot. is that oorraotT 279-531 Eo, Juot the Jacket laying on the grouni. 1 J 26PM 531 i>oeariptlon rebrocicaat. Uy'^-i^A g<^CAi>-x,i50-2-531 Z'u St ?v;Qirth sal 3ooklojr nov. hove a a&a in tho oar that ecu Identify the suspeot if anybody ceta hln, Scfvaral Klnutao later. 19-531 too of ths cen here at the sorvlco atctlon that flaw his 8QeE3 to thliik ho is in thia block, 400 blook iaat Jafforaon bohinl his aorvioo station, ^ve co aome core aqaoXs 07ar here. * Several equals oheol; out. 531 Ijecsived infonsation froB Kathodiat ths offioor InTolved In tha Bhootin,';, offioor J, D, Kpplt was ZtQA, ll32PM 111-531 Taoy say ho's ronnlng veat in the alley betveea Jaffersoa aiu 7enth. 531 Bpoodcaat this inforr.ation, li33«c 531 Fabroaicaat dona rlpt ion. So you know vbat klxa of a call be vaa on? ^ ^^rv^-' 19-531 ^^';^rt-,i^31-19 Kapoat. ^^531 (i:!C3itod) Ha's In the llbrazy on Jefferson east 500 blook 223 called ictin. 531-223 What is tba losation? 22>531 Kareallls and Jefferson. librsiT', I'q goloc around baok got aomobody around the front, got theia here feat, 531 /ay unit nosr iiara&lia and Jefferson at the libraiy. Traasaisslona £;arbled. Afx^^'- 22-531 They got hia hold up. looks like la this buiUin? at the . oorceri ^^^-^'Z^^' 19-531 We're all at the library, 221-531 night oan glvo you aonsa additional infonnatlon. I got an eye ball witness to ths g^ot sway ccn that suspect in thia abootin; white cale twenty aeven, five eleven, one alzty five, blaok wavy hair, fair oouplexlon, wearing a light s^!*7 iilsenhower Jacket daife trousers, white shirt lest Been rannlns on the north aide of the street from Patton on Jefferson on Sast Jefferson, He'a apparently •rcied %dth a .32 dask finish oatooatio pistol which he had la his right haol. Sawyer Exhibit No. A —Continued 396 , ,531-221 for your infozcatlont thoy hara th« 8uap«ot oors«d at tba Li^raiy at Mcnalia cod Jaffa raon. ' ' 221^531 10-4 7hls Dan oan poaitiTaly Idaotlfy hla If thay naed hio. 531-221 They do hava tha ampaot nnlar arraat now. Hold oa to your vitneaa. ^a^'7j.4_-^19-531 It'a the wrong man, 531 I^io repaid all iofoniation on tha auspaot arraatal, it vaa tha vTons t^sn, (P^t^i?yw>531-19 221 has an *y vitoaoa to tha ahootin^ you want hlsi to bold on to his. (po<^7<-M.9-531 Whara la hat Toa v&nt bin to keep the aya vitneaa at tba aeana. 6 '-^'"^ 19-531 Tea. 221-531 I*n In front of liGh S. Tenth rlffbt now. I cot two witsaasas, I got one that talked to tha offloor and one that otiserrad the inan. ^50-531 Vhat offloor have you ^t oosnaaadln^ thla area over bare whare thla offioer wao shotT OOjJh^^'i'^'^^ 19. What la your looetion. I'd at MaroallD sjxi •Tefferscn. Taere la notiils^ to this "arsalla hero» let'o ^t back up to the place and work to north Jefferoon. wa sot a wltnasa That a aw hla a had hla Jacket anl ohoc'^ tcwazda Tyler* (223 Interaptod thla trsnaolsalon eevoral tinea,} ~T'^'£0'3^r'2 223-531 1 It vat Just a boy rujjnln^ to tell tbea vh£.t bapranad* ha worfea there. Shells at tbs scene izslloata the auapeot la amad with an autooatla ,33 rather than a platol. Q C6^i^/^^-^531-19 Js9 you enrouta W-t 2. Tenth where 221 baa the eye wltneaa. /9 (Xo«'r^-'=^ 19-531 Tea. ^2-531 We've been inatructed to roport to the Oak Cliff aoana, what'a tha location and coda. 531-»»92 300 S, Jafferoon coda two. x£2 210 wsa dispatched to notify Kro. Tlpplt. I J '5PM 531 Have Inforcatlon the suspect just went Into the Texas Thaatar on Voat Jefferson, auppoocd to be hiding in tb* balcony, li45«t 531 550-2, 1*92, 211, aoi oaay more aquada aurround the Tazsa Theater. «*—^ 1,5W '^'-B:531 ' " . I'm rosainlns out to the Hoaioida Bureau with a witnaaa on tha offlcar'a ehootlnj?. cl/c-^^?^^fr5lpH^^:fe2-53i Suspeot on shooting of poliaa offioar la apprahandad la route to the atatlon. froia the Texaa Theater, Aje^'-^W^-' /a-Cii^^l-550-2 550-2-531 Caught hin oa tba lower floor of the Texaa Theater after a fight, ^ it 53PM 531-2-3 /dvlaad of ahootio^ and apprebanaion, 305 fidviaad Ujcd;^^^''^^ /3d.fe^-^5o-a-53i 223 la in tba oar with ua , also 492 fiaapaotfally* fiadSa iiftiyitrbar Sgt. Sawyer Exhibit No. A —Continued 397 i;occ:n^or 5» 15^3 9-531 rron this -builli-- it i= uhcjeou:; if he is still thcra cr 20{ Ur.'.aiov;nif he vas tLova in tha first; plcco. 531-9 '"ill th9 in.':or::aiiicn \;a hcvc ixcoivcd ir.dicc-lcs it did cono 531-5 '- 260-531 -- -^•.-. -.. - to PcrkUr^j Cct cii t: ;ica -jhoy oca fi'oa thst / "09 1*3 CI.. 125-531 2o yc- hivo ^i^/ i-ro -• VC3 also Mt? 5:1-125 ;:ot 7ii. :^'ii c^:-:.. 15-2-531 I^ O^u 0-^ -.: :::r? - 531-15-2 Hg 157-531 I-~ 531-157 I \.c....'. ..... ..... , 15-2-531 civic G3 attsnp-i -•"'0 i stctica vCl at ParLclard SCO if oso ccn (rccc clc-) 2-531 :^ni cut f :....: :„-:!: 531-2 zcta that inforziatioa, 211-53 Z::': 1: ;; 7 -.:;„:. ^ o^n you ^T-va 531-211 531-211 125-531 531-125 Ccn you o^bt-,.!:; iKfc--L;_jio; frc::i or.o if tho prcsidoat ia 125-531 1-531 2-531 Caiiy^u ..11 V. v:--:;r : what Iiic cc;:iitioz> is i'^ with tnocy p-c^le -i t'li-. doulitf^il. 2-531 Xo you l:.:o:7 v;^.^.t hiz cc/ _: 531-2 190-531 12;^:^^^. 531-190 olsc do you Cwod? "i.hat 190-531 Lota of ropo, 531-190 I'a goicg: to seni firo dc"crb.-33t rcrc.uc ^ . ........-„„ ..ita ropo to that Icsaticrs. Station Bi-3alr, 31-531 L'ocd a ccuad to fo to the Cc~rn-2lty Blood Lanl: plcl: ap oonii! hlocd cr.^ orir,v- it to Parlzlaai code thrse, 531-31 Havo they 'bccri notii':L-^? 31-531 10-^ PooplQ at ?ai\:l£r-. : 15-2-531 IVo roquosts iafoi^cticr' ..^jury to the P:rosidcnt and also if tV.j -ot,_-, j.- v^:; .;_„. 531-2 yiio Governor vaa hit cut tho extent of injury is cot 1:zo-j:i, Sawyer Exhibit No. B —Continued .,,.,. 3.01PI! - 1:12P" J^ost ooaversationn i:is?;.: <5 X-V3 Memorandum TO :PTA - »:. John T. o»™; m 3 1 1951 OBCOW drartod Lrcl. 27, ] • objflctlon to the oocurlty i I Oo»pBtch Ife. 585 oX Fobruary 29, ! PPT fU« - Los Harvey Oswald ma OFFICUL IB£ < PTAa 130 - Oswald, Lea Harwy — Canoll Seeley Exhibit 2 ,A^. 9- ^I'-'h- Seeley Exhibit No. 2 / ^?mmtm': Kp rJ* " '• — PTT^ /i-:^ Bo2 Qf//^ JAN 2 Kfll ; -'AA- ^.^ ^- o-.y - -'- u STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICEL x--)^^: il2 PASSPORT OFFICE .;' DCC21 Kl ' Dlr«ccot, Passport 0££lc« R,T/.LC toco 2131, »« StMO &ten, WmslULiiscon U, D. C. R«: Leo K«r\oy Osusld, born »ev/ Otlsona, U.. 10-16-39. nov rcsld lOB Apt. 24. Bo. VKoUnio St., H^sk, au.sis _ Th« sbov« lUBMKl has Hied a visa petition vlth this Service to claa sl£r hla. lUisBlan bom »lfa, Marina N. Osvsld, os a nonnuoti Iratsrai Subject apparootly departed frota tlie United Stdtcs di«log the lattei part of 1955 and proceeded CO Russia where he renounced his United States clcixeoshlp. ' 7pf the ua« pf this Setvlce In edjudlcstins - be appreciated IE you vlll cumieh informat ocda pertaiolnz to subject. OiEUer in Charji /{. f-ZW'Tl'AVv/ I AIR HAIl. CQNFIDEmAL Ul Ih. Seeley Exhibit No. 4 402 a«Vy.' ':M ^^ ' '^^^'' X-/i daB{Mtch \o. ?y of Jul.T Uf ] CarroU Seeaey ExhU Seeley Exhibit No. 5 O O i-2~ 7 SI . Up. Wlllrn 0. CojmU MAY 4 U^ C3M of Lcs Euvp7 Ojzsld feifciT=co 10 t:-'!3 to SVe clrrslilcd oczgw^da cf i::j- 1, ^^.., The Western Union Telegraph Company 0.-^>t^.i; GuL-F Division -j^-c ,-.^ \^ W. SEMINSSEN 1-416 Commerce St. . . v fc^-' ^'\_^ v.c. «,..o.NT Dallas 1. Texas v^/V^ - 1 Statement prepared by W. W. Semingsen, Vice President, Western Union Telegraph Company, Dallas, Texas for reference and use as testimony at the hearing of the President's Commission on the assassination of President Kennedy, pursuant to the request of the Commission's General Counsel J. Lee Rankin, in letters of March 19 and 20, 1964. At the request of and in cooperation with agents of the FBI and Secret Service, a search of our message and money order files was made by W/U supervisory personnel at various locations, viz., Dallas, Fort Worth and Irving, Texas, and New Orleans, La., for messages and money orders sent or received by Lee Harvey Oswald and aliases and Jack Ruby. The search of our files covered specific dates or periods designated by the government agents. The offices at which the message and money order files were searched, the dates, and results thereof are as follows: Dallas , Texas For money orders payable to Lee Harvey Oswald and aliases, 0. H. Lee and Alek James Hidell - June through November 1963 Result Negative : For telegrams sent by Lee Harvey Oswald and aliases - September 1 through November 22, 1963 Result: Negative — Semingsen Exhibit 3001 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 405 2 - Dallas , Texas (Continued) For money orders payable to Lee Harvey Oswald and aliases or to anyone at a specific address in Dallas October through November, 1963 Result: Negative For money orders sent by Jack Ruby - June through November 24, 1963 Result: Money order dated November 24, 1963, filed at (P 11:17 A.M., payable to Karen Bennett, Will Call, Fort Worth, Texas, amount $25.00, from Jack Ruby, For money orders received by Jack Ruby - June through November 30, 1963 Result: Money order from Ann Arbor, Mich., November 24, ^ 1963, to Jack Ruby from J. Do Harrison, $5.00, containing supplementary message. Money order from Los Angeles, Calif., November 24. v^. 1963, to Jack Ruby from Paul L. Cowperthwaite, (2^ $10.00, containing supplementary message. Money order from Asbury Park, N. Jer., November 24, 1963, to Jack Rubbin from Frank Dragotta, (^ $100.00, containing supplementary message. For telegrams sent by Jack Ruby on specific dates designated by FBI - Result: Five telegrams on the specific dates were produced and shown to FBI agent. These telegrams were of a social or business nature and not pertinent to the investigation. Semingsen Exhibit 3001 -Continued 406 In addition to the foregoing, a telegram dated Painesville, Ohio, January 13, 1964, to Mrs. Lee Harvey Oswald, Dallas, Texas, signed © ^, by Mrs. Mary Muntian, 10857 Johnny Cake Ridge, Painesville, Ohio, was reported to the FBI even though it appeared to be of questionable use because of the nature of its text. Irving, Texas For money orders payable to Lee Harvey Oswald and aliases - July through November, 1963 Result - Negative Fort Worth, Texas For money orders payable to Lee Harvey Oswald and aliases - July 19, 20, 21, 22, 26, 27, 27, 29 - 1963. Result: Negative (Oral report given to FBI agent. Ft .Worth) o _ ^_ For money order payable to Karen Bennett, Will Call, ' '^/^ '^ ^°^^ Worth, Texas, from Jack Ruby, Dallas, Texas, (jj November 24, 1963, amount $25,00. New Orleans , La. For money orders sent or received by Lee Harvey Oswald and aliases - June through November, 1963 • Result: Negative (Oral report given to FBI agent, New Orleans) Semingsen Exhibit 3001 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued 407 4 - On December 9, 1963, at a meeting in the office of W. W. Semingsen, Vice President, Western Union Telegraph Company, Dallas, Texas, an oral report of oiir investigation and search of files was given to investigating agents C. T. Brown of FBI and Elmer W. Moore of Secret Service. They were shown the original money order application and copy of receipt given to Jack Ruby of money order filed by him on November 24, 1963, in Dallas, and the received money order and receipt of payment to Karen Bennett in Fort Worth. These records are available for the President's investigating commission. The accepting employee Doyle Lane of Dallas and the employee making payment of the money order, J, M. Strong of Fort Worth, are present for giving testimony in connection with their participation in the handling of the money order It may be of interest to the Commission to know of the independent action taken by W/U management immediately following President Kennedy's assassination and the subsequent killing of the alleged assassin by Jack Ruby. All of the employees in the Dallas office who might have had occasion to have had contact with Oswald or Ruby in the handling of telegrams or money orders were thoroughly questioned by W/U management personnel. None knew Oswald or could identify him as having sent or received telegrams or money orders at any time. One of our employees thought he had recognized him as having received a money order and sent a telegram on separate occasions. A thorough investigation and search of our files fafled to reveal such transactions. Several of our employees could identify Ruby as having purchased Express Money Orders on various occasions. Semingsen "Exhibit 3001 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued 408 - 5 None could i^HSifyxar associate Ruby in any way with Oswald. Representatives of the W/U other than Messrs. Lane and Strong who participated in our investigation and search of message and money order files are: L. R. Wilcox, District Manager, Dallas, Texas T. R. Coats, District Manager, Fort Worth, Texas who are present for questioning if the Commission desires. Appended to this statement, which may be of interest to the Commission, are: ^. Telegram of December 10, 1963, to W/U Vice d (1) President and General Counsel, J. H. Waters, New York, reporting on our investigation /^ ^^^ (2) Letters of December 19, 1963, to W. W. Semingsen and L. R. Wilcox from J. Edgar Hoover. — ~)) N^ (3) Letter of November 27, 1963, to W/U Vice President G« S. Paul, New York, reporting W/U activities -^ incident to President Kennedy's assassination. .^^^i^^^^ ^ Prepared by: W. W. Semingsen Vice President The Western Union Telegraph Co. Dallas Texas, March 30, 1964 Semingsen Exhibit 3001 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 28 409 ai^a; Eh WESTERN UNION TELEGRAM I M lckjm time • p > lOCAl TTMI 11 ytkP CST NOV 2U 65 DQ025 DEA10} OE AfUO?} PO ANN ARBOR MICH 2U 3UIP EST MOD OAL f FIVE (5) CAU JACK RUBY DALLAS TEX J HARRISON FOR YOUR LEGAL DEFENSE MOO (55). r' i^ WESTERN UNION Q TELEGRAM iLOCAlTP<>n»oiinof,lf. 00065 LA 196 ^ 5 53 24 L LLTI79 n LOS ANGELES CALIF 2U I255P PST 1963 NOV TEN (10) CAU JACK RUBY CARE CITY JAIL Semingsen Exhibit 3001 OALUS TEXAS Attachment #2 PAUL L COWPERTHWAITE CONGRATULATIONS FOR ELIMINATING A RAT AM} DOING THE COUNTKY A 3ERVXeC-l!ClilEY IS TO HELP PROCORE A LAWYERTOna St. MOO :2/>?^ (92). /,v A J ^^ :«.,: :'.' I' V>V^ 11 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued (Attachment 2) 410 Cum or SnvKi WESTERN UNION L-N.«h. Unat TELEGRAM >- « r."ifXi- I UX^L TIME •! c 208p CST NOV 2U 65 08050 PA 1 12 P ASA06U PO ASBURY PARK NJER 2U 128p EST (P yoo ONC HUNDRED (100) CAU JACK RUBS IN DALLAS POLICE STATION DAL FRAW< ORAQOTTA SET YOUR SELF A LAWYER WITH THIS WILL SEND ALL YOU NEED MOO -*^ (45). .JJ Ui\li06*C8T d TANNCHBAini (lU B€rO«E 100 AM). W27 t CHEF MENTUEr/hIWAY TELLC.RAM ^-L'. El\ •pii^' fAY'. NATIONAL AJM IN I3TRAT0* ^ CARE AMERICAN fiU I U Of »AR ETY ARTISTSI 551 FIFTH AVt MAR iOMN^. IN SPITE OF OUR RECENT JISCUSSIMI RE6AWIB AUJITIONS, NO EFFORT IS TMt STOP OR»t« ON THE AM^J^^R IN i\f$ lEFIANCl KING MABE TO i^lSCONT INUE/lN lALUS. OF YOUR^ORiER IATE* JUNE 2JTH ANJ ALSO FOLLOtlNS .ITH ; A «IRE FROM rOUR LO^CAL OFFICE FROM TOM PALMER JATEi MU l«»V i^ mi ^Ot!;. AlVERTLSEMENTS *« JJ' ^^ orroS-'rooJ"" ^ «=*««^'- CUl WEEK END FOR AUJITION.^. JUMEMENT IN TMI8 MATTL*. ^^"Jo^^lJJ, THANKS J^JJ^JoS?" ASA IN • F0« YOyR j i KININESS AN! t(»a,mMAltCmy^mOm MY VISIT. lEST im f x««) TNt CAtWIttL CLVB 1'^ REGARDS TO MISS ROSALEB. SINCERELY uacAU Semingsen ExhiWt 3001 Attachment #3 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001—Continued (Attachment 3— Continued) 413 (S> TElEG^'AV RCCEiVTD P^ TTlEPHONE ^ t LIV DR AND MRS COLtMAN JACOBSON CARf MRS OSCAR NEWMAN OLIVER-CROMWELL 1^-72 STRFET WE WISH TO EXPRESS OUR SI MCERE SYMPATHY IN YOUR GREAT LOSS <-«— ^ i^^STERN UNION ':'*^Y^ uoUj* In dr^rrrcj ch>r. TELEGHAM Kuc h livJiciteJ by tU . W. F. LiARCHALL. ruMiDCNT r \hw oa domcnk tcJZ5TZ.-2'r. , LT.iai ' OCCURRED AT 11:20AH. THE CITY JAIL RAM? ENTRANCE FROM K;:XCn OSWALD WAS BEING RE^2)VED IS APPXLY 150 YARDS FM OUR 1-LUN 077ICE , NORMAL WALKING TIME ABOUT 60 SECONDS. It?VESTIGATING AGENTS \~:?^ KIFCa^lED THAT ORIGINAL FILED MONEY ORDER APPLICATION, THE FtZCD MONEY ORDER MESSAGE DESTN FTWORTH, AND RECEIPT FOR PAYI^2NT TO PAYEE ARE AVAILABLE FOR PRODUCTION IN COURT OR OTHER LEG^^L PROCEEDINGS ON SERVING OF SUBPOENA TO THE COMPAlvTY. KO:^"EY ORDER _ Semingsen Exhibit 3001 — Attachment #5 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued (Attachment 5) 416 - 2 6^ RECEIPT GIVEN TO RUBY AT T..:. .- :.., ..IS POSSil' _ ._. AND WAS PICKED UP BY POLICE AT TiMi: 0? HIS ARREST. EXISTENCE OF MONEY ORDER WAS MADE KNOWl^ TO POLICE AUTHORITIES AND PRESS BY RUBY'S ATTORNEY. INVESTIGATING AGENTS APPEARED SATISFIED WITH THOROUGHNESS OF OUR INVESTIGATION AND SEARCH AND EXPRESSED APPREC LOTION OUR COOPERATION. IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT ALL EVIDENCE IN CASE BEING GATHERED BY FBI WILL BE TURNED OVER TO PRESIDENT'S APPOInted FACT-FINDING COMMISSION AND MAY BE MADE PUBLIC AT LATER DATE. (ORIG WATERS, COPY PAUL AND WILCOX) SEMINGSEN Semingsen ExH bit 3001 Attachment #5 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued (Attachment 5 —Continued) 417 J04N^EDGAR HOOVE "' DIRECTOR "^' Federal Bureau of Investigation United States Department of Justice Washington, D. C. December 19, 1963 PERSONAL Mr. W. W. Semlngsen Vice President Gulf Division Western Union Telegraph Company 1416 Commerce Street Dallas, Texas Dear Mr. Semlngsen: I want to express deepest appreciation for the Invaluable assistance you rendered In a matter of Interest to this Bureau. Your excellent spirit of co- operation was Indeed In the highest tradition of civic responsibility, and my associates join me In extending thanks. Sincerely yours. <^-^^ sA^-Ai^ 'S^^f^^^^^^^^mmmmsmmm^meik'^' «, Semlngsen Exhibit 3001 Attachment #6 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001—Continued (Attachment 6) 418 December 19, 1903 / L2r. .-L, R. <71Icoa DlGirict l^iicrige^-'-*" W-5Stern Unlc^'i'elegraph Company 2034. Mair. Sireet ''Dallas, T^sas I^sar Mr. Wilcox: I want to c , . ^ il'sSt thanks tor t^ osts^a(Sl2ig cca>j5eE^loa yoa rcadsred ta ft ©sttsr ^ • teter^st to this Bureau. Ail of ue la it-:- J _:. l^l lor ywar feslp, asd my agsecLEtes join ma in .; eia&srely years, (Sgd.) J* Eilgcr Hoover Mr. Sealngsaa: (2) As information thifs ia in rsforenc© to oxir rccc- assistance to th« local FBI offie®. C Semingsen Exhibit 3001 Attachnient #6 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued (Attachment 6 — Continued) 419 The Western Union Telegraph Company Gu i_F Division 1416 Commerce St. '»»"^'~' Dai_i_as 1. Texas November 27, 1963 PERSONAL Mr. Paul: There is nothing deader than stale news, but nevertheless I thought you might like to have a personal report from me on the President 's assassination, since it occurred in this now grief stricken city. There is not much that I can add to the myriad of newspaper accounts, except to relate our activities during the President's visit. On Thursday I checked with Larry Wilcox to confirm that all arrangements had been set up here to handle the press. Everything was in order; also everything went smoothly at San Antonio, Houston and Fort Worth. Larry had arranged for a signed company car with Sales Manager R. C. Johnson and Sales Representative Yates to meet the White House press plane at Love Field airport and to contact Carroll Linkins immediately on arrival, Motor messengers were on hand to pick up any press file to take to the Mart, where the Press Center had been set up - about five miles from the airport. The Company car and its "occupants were cleared to accompany the motorcade on the 45-minute trip to downtown Dallas, thence to the Mart on Stemmons Freeway. The company car was about 7th in line in the motorcade, preceded by one White House press bus and followed by another. Having been with Carroll Linkins on President Eisenhower's three separate visits to Acapulco Falcon Dam , and Del Rio, and on President Kennedy's trip to Mexico City IB Semingsen Exhibit 3001 _ Attachment #7 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued (Attachment 7) 420 year. I l^d plam-^id co c^^t td^ at tl^a iL-r:: proca cca^ ^s.jiz jcc^r eni that Eaio j«i-has>a v^U laet trip t» tfc» Culf ir-lvlcica. ''-- C-va t^-^- "1 aa off t© ESdt tto f8rcal<»«a&ial F-- - * all your r©£arda". It fc:2dl rain. . ^ oiiT.cr'i to r^i^v^o '^.--- fit ct;3 "^«^» ^i^^^^^t Ca ^ivlr.3 to t!:^ i: -cr, fcy^ C-3 fzco c^ office, tf3 tc:;ii '^a s-. ..-^^^.^^..^ Crcvdj cc--:a e.:;n -ot:i-:^t5:a e^^-S taa arc. .^-^ vcrc la tta c^^ll pciU area Icadlts^ «^' - Ci cv.r,c: = J.e-=lc.U-. tt. Cc^t, 'l5;ticc^:;5 creep of . CcvT-V: n.-^c c.;-^ w-^il "^<3 ca th3 ~^^ f^^ 3."- Sla. facias t±a esjill t^-k cx*a. t" ~^^^ ^^ Serni,r 'Sen i.xn. Attch. ff7 Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued (Attachiment 7 — Continued) 421 mm Lerry arid I arrived at th^ Hart shortly fcafora ilA. We woat directly uy cac^lator (ao olevators) to tbs fourth floor cerraco wiisvc t!i=! pifcS3 ceaccr .5^2 locatsd. The tcBtracea Are an each, of rhs floors aurrouodln^ ths lac-var part of cha txtlldlns wlicra ths luucUcon rccQptioa C3S co <>® haid - »o thac froa nay torraco th&ro u'is « clear vicrur of chd oain floor. Only choac wicii Invitations cr accurlcy cle^urances were pertaitcad oa the &£ia floor or t£rrs.co& £bcve. Our Arr&02^&2:£ata at ths prose center vzzq quita ad«qu«to and cha oi>ar«r-^?^ "^'^-^^A^ arriving et ll:30Ail. Scsss loc«.l pross corrcap tirrlvad in advarcic - fi fev .; Btorlos ware filed. * I i^rsotcd ti:s advaaco corrospoadoats e;cn a a^t>rt ttjC c«j - > ranee. 1 -V-l-^'^ »>£ coiJ h« ~'ti8 ».'ullowi.;;^ In the i>rfi:d Llfvli «..i '-'it^i >.^'G. it wac civeu chat J.->ha--'or. auJ Yat^s -oi-:' :23 chit coc-cwhirx^ hrtd htpvtfjicd ijciit ctis uudcrpAco a-.>«J that the rxcaicciL 's car Ivud spijd ahead. The cc-poity v^ir wao ahouC 7th In lir^, or a biick b-^hind cho Ital car. It vao curalno, on co VlmiAC-A :>Lre«L ^roa Kaia itr«ot <--t;-en the flroc thots uora hoard. Y^cc* hi:£rd u-tiat souadcd llko tlisea firocrackcra v^hlch rjij^.c have boor. Lhrcwa off U-o ovorpiiss and t^^y '-^cl^w t:i\2.t cct^athl »>;, ^iixad CO eacuxtcy \ - - " about. At Lha'c ^, ^v.iC^riiciii had happor.od btjc ^-a^i r.;/r c^ ..'.c :.t '..'c.;j. :.c: civd cha vVhite llouoa corre-opund-^nco v. ..:; ifaitc Uo\!£:c> )>TQ33 b»j3 , vhivh is pvKC.i.c^ll/ r^ov.-.. "Ir ..oi.dicioriv---- so Lliat thoy covild uac b.:.. . or.- ^hs-.d. llisr^ Mas a o^ad H'vatzblo ii-.^j.^- vv - i ... v.> find ov.: wivit had happanad. I rc;>ortc:d v^-it _ ' -ird aud i'au^- zhat clao aarwonjncecci.v \?c.3 r:ad« on u chcit cha ?r.. - ^,. had bofia ahot t.>d hsd bcca cakccn to . Ilospical, c\. . . .. .. threa cilea froa tlta JCarc. Link 1x2.--^ ^^.y rc>Drtc2pit.al . I*rc3i.d£UC'o dsath. Only the pool . - Auclstiat PXCS2 SccroUt^ry Milcol:- r:iluu.J* ii.ul L^ i'^uvi.-^- o* rbo nhtro Rouao CGz:^»s rooo, ciui tt vaa cvory r.-.-» f.:. Seniinssen Zxh, 300! Attch.jf? Semingsen Exhibit No. 3001 —Continued (Attachment 7 —Continued) 423 . . &t to i^isthcr xxcttz &a bc3C ho cculd. hLciiiolf /.ll tclcpioir^S haSplCZil %fcro cc:zr,jir«ic^rc4 by tiio prccs ficd o tbji Throv;;h Lha aaaloLCuco oF'xindly bud otsoclxd hcs^lt-;.: ad.-rlciscrctlv^ aaatat^ac, I vzs pieced ac a t«lc;;-!:r-i;;- ... - 4 private office -.Jhllo cho orcr-t Co the tii/ltcl-.Vocrd cti^d l-^id the Lclopi:x5r^ cre^ i:)zo t:arj c^--j on hand cue tI::::ro^^i a U.C3 for t:3. I cculd iKjc c-t tbrc-rc.!: Co tt^ lUrt, Lut vczt':j::Uu circuita u^r© . •. oat yoc avall4ii/lca. 't^t'^-y L-d cida crraiiccr2i:i^o Cor t!iLa before Ltnli aa,d I left fcr tbs b:>s?tCi:il. I«« b:i4 Goa« difficulty ta c^tciai; cba Telc|i!:-DS3 forci^a to a::2i£a clrcutta. I waa cblo lo £;3C ia ccua-h «;ich tir. Feeler, ba c-oaeti'::tc-4 tolGp!ic:=a officials to c^-vo t^ pvlcrity oa a c-jr- clrc\:it5 for prcca baadlt'-3. Uo ccro :;±-ca cblo ~. - - - cirvuita opcrattv-o. Mcc "l.j I traa cblo to z'^^ Li:i:i . c!:.rcaj!2 oxi a Ions discc.;^^ .....><:tlca Co Dlat^rict I'-imccr II:;:!- Secretary El^lcola IHlcIiiff tc-r^^iUy L':Vw -"^S brief in;^ to x±j3 VhlLo !2ccs® corrc:: :- :5 c^:^--^"^:^ ^ x ^.^ w—j ?rG2l{icr-iw*a ' - d^at^i at th3 fc:;wpltal cz. '.j^acaly 1 *::. t:2:ay <;-Ki3t:ica3 ccro ockcd by thxs corrc^.w.. ^*: t"-- -••_••-- : -' : :' -^ Krs. I^jncody, tho ?rcctnsle« Souse press ccsrespooisiaats to tha clrpcsrt. Tc'j Prosldont'a plaiut oao da{>cxtlK;j on oar arrival cad obartly thereafter a second brlofiajj vas j^iven to tba pro&s. Vh^ pool prcas accoep&aLod tha Preoldiat's plana ta Vaehlogcon at 2:45 PK. Tlta rcsslalrt^ &?hltc Cisaso corrcopos.d^ata r^sciis^tad Ed 7atrrsr to lay over unttl 5 P.M. Co thay t^xild write thalr stories. Tbsy tfar« written oa tha pleaa cn.d oa tho WMta Eo-sssa press buaccs oa tlra airport flald. Llak s^tbsixcd tha press files «hlch were cotored to th chs upc&^las pirosl'isntt&l olccfctoa y«&r X hava tx^t lnclu62 for 5 or 6 :z:cr.-.-.i nonths at the rai'i^alis PI, or /a-as apca'-tacats, I hiva livod rcLth Jack this tlrao eince rovaa'.-'cr or 1?63, )'arly last satorvlay noniins about 3jCX3 AJi Jack coka no up. "o discussed a-:»ut President Kennedy tcin^ Idlled. Jack told jso tiiat ho had bo.-.n ona cT t:ic i'ii^st ones to run a ad iii the paper stntin:;:; his club would !x) dosed Friday, Tattirdry ard nund:^/ in ncaoiT' of tlio rrcsident. Jack S"id it VTould hurb hin noncy ' vjisc ";ut ho 5Uwt could 'at opon up v;itli t^io Pi'cc!ido2it dead, I could tell Jack xras takin:: tlio Presiccnt »s death hard and he kept repeating ho felt sorry for X\\q Pi.*G3i- der.t's fcnily, Jac-k vrns too Sx-id to go to bed and ho csk eq to go out and havo ccfrea :7lth hia, Vc iicnt to tho Southland hotel for coTi'oo and I Ivid saao ccfroo and J:.ck had ECGc f^rajpcfruit ^uicb. iio acted lil:o ho vjao stunned and shocked and t;o v.ent on hczno. ih.at '.vas tlie first tina I over Ea\7 tears in his eyes, I £ot out of bed Sat- urday comi'-c ''"''d wclra Jack up about 10:C0 or 10:30 A!^. VJc T;at hcd T\' and had coffea, i:o v-as sti 1 s-id and vol':; soriy for ti-:e President »5 fcni jy . I Iiad sons things to do so I left t'lo }:ou;;g arou'id nccn, I v.ent beck IioQo ahC'Ut 7 :30 r;j and Jack vras 'nt t:io:-c, I .T&e G bit and v;ent bsck out, I got back hcno aVout 10:30 Saturday evening and Jnck ".ns hcino. Jack told .t.q ho had to go to tiio club and chock up on eomothin^, I '.^Oiiit on to bed, '^icn I cot up this ncrnin,-^ a'-cut 9:00 All Jack t-as slccpii'-^. Jack heard no 7;.U?:it:,-; ai-ound and lie f;ot up, I could tell Jack trns brocdint; and still s''oi:.k ujj. 'To vntclicd a church sermon on T. V, and Jack liept repeating; about the rrcsidc:it»o f.-cniiy and.horr sorry ho felt for Itrs 'Sar^c^, AroUiid 10:30 ho told m no ho wa:; coin^ to to2:« Cl'.eba, his dog doiva to tha club v.hera tlio rest of his does v;c:c. Jack tiic^ left o\'-A I did'nt s-o hin any noro, I v,-cnt dov-n to tho Eatwell on J.!aia strcut and had sono coffeo, rihilo I v.xio at tl:e Tiatv/cll I hoa:d Jack Kuby had ciiot ^CsT;ald, I htivo ({e:n Jack's pistol and tho last tin© I sav; it was Tliursday nif^t, ;scxj':2saccxy2cscx:sc^>sccacsooc2aciO0caouous3cx:cs!X»sosi: ^c /. SUBSCRIBED AND ivviORN-TO BEFORE /AE THia_?k^DAY of riovcacor 1:2^:.i^^A^ Jx.No.5400 SENAT0R,Geo. Deposition. Washington, D.C. 4-22-64 .58- Senator Exhibit No. 5400 427 . o-:." J- FD.30J,(a.». 3.3.SS) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION . n„t. -11/^4/63 GEORGE (NlIN) SENATOR was interviewed at the Dallas Police Department and gave the following information: Ho has known JACK LEON RUBY for approxinately -.the . ' past eight years, having s^ofhim v/hon he (SENATOR) st3.rted going to the Vegas Club operated by RUBY on Oak Lav/n Avenue in Dallas. He had only casual association with him, mostly otily as a patron to his club, from that time on up until approximately tliree years ago. Thereafter, he considered hinself to have been much closer to RUBY, but in this regard could not explain why ho considered himself closer durir:g the past three years .-than "tho time before that ho knew RUBY. Es added he occasionally, when low on funds, v.ould be asl:ed by RUBY to come and stay, a day oi* two v/ith hira until ho get b:xck on his feet, but he claims he never actually lived with him until about November 1, 1963, when ho moved into the apartment of RUBY, Apartment 207, 223 South Ewing, Dallas, Texas. RUBY has never been married and has never shown ar.y special interest in girls. He has never had a steady girl friend. His employment throughout the time SENATOR has known him has been as a tavern operator. Shortly after SENATO?w first met him, RUBY opened the Sovereign Club on the secor.d floor of the building on the southeast corner of Field and Commerce in downtovm Dallas. This venture was unsuccessful and about tv/o or two and a half years ago the Sovereign Club v,-as discontinued and the Carousel' Club started as a "girlie" shov/ establishment. RUBY had a partner in the operation of the Sovereign Club, but SENATOR is unable to furnish this ir.di- vidual's name. SENATOR can state only that he believes RUBY to be the sole owner and operator of the present Carousel Club. RUBY actively manages the Carousel Club, although he still, so far as SENATOR knows, owns the Vegcs Cliib. As to the latter, RUBY goes tl7ere only periodically to check on the management of the place or to take over occasionally as master of ceremonies. ac. No. 5401 SENATOR, Geo. Deposition- Washington, D.C. 4-22-64 on 11/24/63 of , Dallas, Texas ' ^^„^ ^^ ^., ^ File ff DL 44-1639 — by Special Agent KENNETH C, HOV?E / Ike Dof dictated ^Li^2V63 T^ia docuroenl conlalns nalthpr recommvndaltona nor conclusions of th» FBI. It is Ihs propsrty o( ths FBI ond Is loaned yoof oQsncir; II and Its contont* "fs not to bo dlstrtbuisd outsldo your ogoncy. ^. _ «£:P0| I IKEBO Senator Exhibit No. 5401 428 2 DL 44-1639 RUBY belongs to no clubs, Bocietios, or orcanlzations Of any type and has no "connections" anywhere outside Dallas. He travelled very, very infrequently and spent practically all his time in Dallas, having been here as SENATOR understands, some 14 or 15 years. RUBY, never expressed any special political preferences and never even discussed political matters, suf f icient^to give any indication as to whether he might be to the right or to the left. in his thinking. SENATOR was of the opinion RUBY, since he is Jewish, feels somewhat the same oH things of this typo as he (SENATOR) does; i. e. ^ a Jew has no right to express opinions of any sort, -espoclally wheii he is in business, since he has enough C strikes'/ against him Just being a Jew. In pursuit of this idea, SENATOR yfa.B unable to state RUBY was materially affected so far as his personality was concerned, by -r-liltf' position as a member of a minority race. When it was definitely decided President and I.Irs. KENNEDY were going to visit Dallas,' RUBY showed no special d.ation or exuberance and although ^he evidently thought it was a fine thing the President was comihg to Da^Llas, he gave no indi- cation of having any particularly strong feelings or attachments toward the KENNEDYS, and certainly never had any personal contact, knowledge, or acquaintanceship, with them. RUBY owned a revolver which SENATOR could describe only .by saying it was black. This was kept at the Carousel Club, although occasionally RUBY would carry it back and forth betv/een the club and his home because he usually carried a fairly large sum of money on him. SENATOR never had any special discussions concerning this weapon with RUBY, never heard him say he shot it, practiced with it, or had any special reason for having it, except for self-protection. He had no other firearms of aiiy type known to SENATOR. SENATOR on some occasions would refer to RUBY as a "boy friend" and described him as extremely good-hearted and conside- rate of others and in this regard SENATOR said RUBY would fre- quently take some acquaintance or casual friend home to stay with ': him for a short time because this individual was having a "bit of hard luck". SENATOR has no knowledge that RUBY would be inclined to be vicious or prone to cause physical harm to anyone. - i ;s? i • ¥ • • ' - Hi?! ( Senator Exhibit No. 5401 — Ck)ntinued 429 3 DL 44-1639 On the morning of November 22, 1963, RUBY was still at the apartment when SENATOR left to go to work. When SENATOR returned to the apartment about 9 or 10 o'clock that evening, RUBY was not there. SENATOR went to bed and was awaken>G(t at about 3 or 4 o'clock in the i' morning of November 23, 1963, by RUBY, upon his (RUBYl's) rexurn to th» •apartment. SENATOR has no accurate idea as to where RUBY had been ' all day but does know. that because of the. shooting of the President, RUBY had, as had many businessmen In Dallas, closed his business. SENATOR had some recollection RUBY said he had been at his. sister's home for awhile. . . RUBY was patently upset and emotionally disturbed by the shooting of the President, gave the appearance of having been weepin: aE4 as a matter of fact, did cry occasionally while he sat and talke' with SENATOR about the shooting. SENATOR has no recollection of any special comments made by RUBY other than the shooting "was a terrible thing". After SENATOR and RUBY talked for awhile in the apartment, they got into a car and came downtown to a coffee shop of the South- land Hotel for a cup of coffee, this being about 4:30 or 5 o'clock on the morning of November 23, 1963. They talked considerably durin, this time of the shooting and after spending 10 or 15 minutes at the coffee shop, they returned to the apartment on South Ev/ing and v^ent to bed*. SENATOR arose later on the morning of November 23,, 1963, an' left the apartment between ^11 and 1 o'clock, to the best of his reco lection, and at this time RUBY was still there. He does not recall any special conversation they had prior to his leaving, although RUB was still apparently feeling very badly about the killing of the. Pre ident. When SENATOR returned to the apartment on the evening of November 23., 1963, RUBY was there.- SENATOR describes his condition at that time as "brooding". They talked briefly, but SENATOR has no recollection of what they talked about*. Shortly thereafter, RUBY left to "go down and see how things are at the club", although the club was closed. SENATOR went to bed and does not know when RUBY came in. RUBY and SENATOR arose on. November 24 and SENATOR s?bticed RUBY had brought one of four dogs which he ordinarily keeps at the Carousel Club home with him. At about 10:30 a.m. ,- RUBY left the apartment with the statement; he was going to "take the dog to the - club". SENATOR denies any knowledge of subsequent .activities of RUBY until he heard of his having shot O^ALD. Senatob Exhibit No. 5401 — Continued 430 4 DL 44-1639 ' ' '/" " ' . . ." , , ;. ' ' ,.'./' thing, therefore, The only " SKNATOR knew RUBY was going to do when he left the apartment was take the dog back -down to the club. ' . . , At around 11 o'clock on the morning of November 24,. 1963, SENATOR left the apartment and went downtovm to the Eatwell Restaurant on Main Street to eat. He estimates he arrived there at approximately 11:30 and as he walked in the door he overheard one of the waitresses say OSV/ALD had been , . shot. He remembers asking the waitress "Who shot him?" and having the waitress answer she did not know. Shortly thei-e- after the waitress told SENATOR that OSWALD had been shot' by - a local tavern operator and a short while after that he learned the name of this individual to be JACK RUBY. He said he was dumbfounded and did not know what to do, but after a short v/hile he went to the telephone and called JIM MARTIN. Gladiolus Street, Dallas, an attorney whom he knew. He said' this attorney was not at home, ^o he got into his car and drove to the attorney's house to wait for his return. When ho arrived there the attorney was present and had also learned JACK RUBY had been involved in the shooting of OSWALD. The attorney and SENATOR then proceeded to the City Jail to see what, if anything, they could do in connection with the situation. . SENATOR never saw RUBY So emotionally disturbed and • upset by anything during the time he knew him as RUBY was by the killing of the President. SENATOR does not know why this had such an intense effect on RUBY since he had never heard RUBY make any remarks in the past which yP^A^v^'^*^"''"*^^*® ^^^ closer feeling for the KENNEDYS than RUBY/had ior anyone else who night •have been President of the United States. SENATOR was unable to give any reason for RUBY's killing of OSWALD other than to •say "He must have thought an awful lot .of- President KENNEDY".. SENATOR helped out occasionally around the Carousel Club and occasionally visited the Vegas Club, but never knew LEE OSWALD and has^' no' knowledge LEE OSWALD ever visited either of these places. In the many discussions with RUBY following the shooting of President KENNEDY, no mention was made of OSWALD'S name at any time and RUBY gave no indication of having any know- ledge of or acquaintanceship with OSWALD. He never heard RUBY- say OSWALD had ever visited either one of the clubs in which Senator Exhibit No. 5401 —Continued 431 • 5 , DL 44-1639 RUBY was interested. There was nothing which' happened betv/een .the shooting of President KENNEDY and RUBY's shooting of QST.'ALD which gave SENATOR any inkling RUBY had in mind the shooting of OSV/ALD when he left the apartment on the morning of November 24, 1963, or anytime prior to that. Ho is unable to state when ruby's intention to shoot OSWALD might have been formulated. At no time iv Tshcfe'j-:^ -1:^07 •f[i,^^.' were discussing the killing of KENNEDY did RUBY ever make any remark he thought someone should shoot OSWALD or anything special should happen tp OSWALD, other than he be tried and given what he deserved. ^ SENATOR has no knowledge of RUBY's having had aay con- federates or confldaz^s. with respect to his action in shooting PSV.'ALD. SENATOR has no reason to believe RUBY did have any con- federates or confidants:^ ^ He is of the opinion' RUBY's actions were impulsive, and not planned for any great length of time prior to their- execution. SENATOR believes most of RUBY's family lived in Chicago but, as earlier stated, he has no knowledge JIUBY has any connection there or ..any other place in the United States in any kind of / business way, legal or illegal. RUBY has a sister in Dallas, EVA GRANT, who is either divorced from her husband or a widow. SENATOR does not .know the address of EVA GRANT, . ,, - According to SENATOR, at no time during the,, above .chronology ,T from the shooting of President KENNEDY to thelast.. time SENATOR saw RUBY. before the shooting of OSWALD was.there any evidence RUBY was under the Influence of alcohol or. narcotics. To senator's knowledge, RUBY was a non-user of alcohol and was never known ,to use narcotics of any kind. .SENATOR denied any knowledge of any mental disorder of any kind in RUBY's history. i Senatob Exhibit No. 5401 —Ck>ntinued 432 . Porm Ko. ISSS fHoTlsod) Mi»io2AXD«M liiroat ^ (ky^OC ^UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE TRE/^URY DEPARTMENT ^ Field oiTicE Dallas :no. CO-2-34,030 TYPE OF CASE STATUS TITLE OR CAPTION Protective Research Continued Assassination of President Kennedy, IKVESTIGATION MADE AT PERIOD COVERED Dallas, Texas Dallas , Te::as December 3, 1963 George Senator INVESTIGATION MADE BY SA Elner N. Moore Results of interviev; vdth George Senator, Ruby's roonniate. DETAILS OF IJTVESTIGATION Reference is made to previous reports. George(iO'l)__Senatoi^ (Vihite; male; .,5.-7^; 192; brovjn eyes; brovm-grey hair; cai-K coaplexion,. mole left, cheel-:; appenuector.iy' scar, cuVscar tip' of >in2.firxgeii.pf .left hand), v^as interviev.'ed at the Dallas Office December 3, 1963, for the purpose of ascertaining his background and association vd.th Jack Ruby, vdio shot and killed Lee Harvey Osv/ald. George Senator stated that he was born of Jev/ish parents at Gloversville, Kev; York on September 4, 1913. He has one brother living in Gloversville, another brother at Rochester, aiid three married sisters living in Nev; York City. He completed his formal education upon graduation from gra-aj-iar school at Gloversville in June 1929. He v;ent to New York City and worked in a hat factory, for V/estern Union, in the v/holesale siUc industry, and was unemployed at times. About 1932 he developed lung trouble and returned to Goversville for about one year, part of v/nich he vrorked for a brother vrfio operated a small restaurant. He returned to Nev/ York City and again worked in the silk in- dustry. About 1934 he again returned to Gloversville and left there vdth neighbors, the Sebring family, to go to Florida. He vrorked at Miami in various resorts as a kitchen v/orker. Between 1934 and 1941 he lived and vrorked in both Nev/ York City and Miami ^ a _/«. v- • i 6.. A 1*I i-'ould send her some by Western Union. After that Ruby took his dachshund "^y .y Sheba and said he xvas going to drive to the club. Senator did not see Ruby I \^'' « ^.»"| again until after his arrest for shooting 0sv;ald. w "^ Senator said that it v.-as his opinion that there was no premeditation on the part of Ruby in shooting Oswald and that he must have done so on the spur oi the moment. Senator said he had heard later that Ruby had spent some time at the Carousel Club just sitting around and crying on Saturday. Ke added that Ruby v;as the first club ovmer to announce that he vrould close for three days. Senator said there were several things that may not have come to the attention of the authorities v;hich v;ould indicate to hiia that Ruby had not planned to shoot Osv/ald. He said the fact that Ruby had the dog Sheba, to /which he was very attached, in the car \ihen he went to the police station alone vrauld indicate that he intended tD..return soon. Also the fact that he I -; had the cash receipts from the club in__the;- cair."-, Senator said he v/as con- vinced that Ruby had emotionally vrorked hixaself 'up to such a pitch that vAien he saw Oswald in the basement of the police station he went out of his head. Senator said that he did not think that Ruby carried a gun at all times as he had seen Ruby's revolver stored in a blue canvass bag at both the club and at the apartment. He said Ruby always carried the gun when he carried money from the club to the apartment or to the bank. Senator stated that it was ridiculous to think t hat Ruby had any connection vdth subversive organi - zations or with Oswald. ' [ ^^ E-M:amr 590 Senator Exhibit No. 5402 —Continued 436 I .FD.30J ;R.y. 3-3-S8) O FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIG/ '^N Dntw December 20, 1963 I ••- • - •---.'> --- .11 ^• ; , 'V . -J-''- (1) ^- \ ^ - > - . , ; GEORGE SENATOR, c/o Carousel Club, 1312 1/2 Commerce Street, Dallas, Texas, furnished the following information: He came to Dallas about May 15, 1954, and first met JACK RUBY about 1955, He believes this was at the time RUBY was assisting in the operation of theVegas Club. RUBY was only a casual acquaintance until about March or April,1952. He would see him only infrequently when he happened to meet him in thebusiness area of Dallas or at a restaurant or night club. On those occasions he would talk to him for only a short period of time. About March or April, 1962, SENATOR was out of work and about out of funds. RUBY invited him to stay in his apartment, which was located on South Marsalis, exact address unrecalled. Mr. SENATOR stayed with RUBY for approximately five or six months at this address, and during this period assisted RUBY in the operation of the Carousel Club by acting as a cashier or taking ticke(Cs at the door. About August or September, 1962, SENATOR began operating the Texas Post Card Company and moved to the Grandbury Apartments, located on Maple Street, MR. RUBY remained at the South Marsalis address. SENATOR would still help out occasionally St the Carousel Club on weekends and special occasions. In the latter part of November, 1952, SENATOR moved into Apartment 205, located at -223 South Ewing with a Mr. STANTON CORBIT, a buyer for Titche's Department Store. He told JACK RUBY about the new apartments and RUBY moved into Apartment 207 in the latter part of November, 1952. About August, 1963, CORBIT got married and left SENATOR with all of the rent to pay on his apartment. He was unable to handle the entire amount by himself and at the invitation of RUBY, moved into Apartment 207 with RUBY about the first week in November, 1953. He was still living with him at the time of RUBY's arrest. Mr. SENATOR advised that during the period he has lived next door to and with RUBY, he can recall only one trip out of town made by RUBY. On this occ£ision RUBY was having trouble with his competitors over AGVA requirements on amateur hours put on at the burlesque shows. He did not feel that his competitors were following the rules set forth by AGVA and this was hurting his business. RUBY went to New York City to talk to the officers of AGVA concerning this situation. Mr. SENATOR believes that on this same trip RUBY first took a young dog to CANDY BARR in the vicinity of Houston, Texas, prior to flying on ' to New York. To the best of SENATOR'S knowledge, RUBY made this trip alone, and was gone for about three or four days. SENATOR does not know where RUBY SENATOR,Geo. Deposition^ ~Ex.No. 5-403 Washington, D.C. A-22-64 '-^ Dallas, Texas p., ^ DL 41-1639 Filo/Sf by Special Agent s RALPH E. RAHLINGS and JAMES F. GLONEK/^ p.'!;^^ dictotod 12/20/63 t7 Senator Exhibit No. 5403 437 DL U4-1C.- (2) stayed in New York City and does not know for sure the identity of the persons he contacted. He believes that RUBY contacted a Mr, BOBBY FAY of the AGVA and possibly a Mr. JOE GLAZIER (phonetic), a booking agent in New York. RUBY has talked to SENATOR about vacation trips he has taken, but SENATOR cannot recall any details of these trips. SENATOR stated that he has no information to indicate that RUBY has connections with the hoodlum element in Chicago, Illinois. RUBY has confided to SENATOR that he grew up in a very tough neighborhood j but SENATOR has seen no visitors whom he recognized as being from Chicago during the period of his close association with RUBY, The only close friend of RUBY known to SENATOR who has a Chicago connection was or^e M^RTY GIMPLE (phonetic), a traveling salesman who had formerly lived in Dallas and moved back to Chicago. Mr. GIMPLE died about 1962. The only addresses recalled by SENATOR at which RUBY has resided in Dallas include the Continental Apartments on' Homer Avenue, the address on South Marsalis at which SENATOR resided with RUBY for a short period of time, and the apartmont at 223 South Ewing. He also recalled that RUBY lived with his sister, EVA GRANT, for a period of time, but he does not recall the dates or address. SENATOR advised that RUBY was a Democrat but was not active in political affairs and very seldom even discussed them. He is not sure , that RUBY voted. At no time did RUBY express an opinion in SENATOR'S presence concerning the Cuban crisis. During the period of his acquaintance with RUBY he has had no indication of any violation of law, such as the handling of narcotics, allowing employees to practice prostitution, or fencing stolen articles. RUBY operated a very strict business and would allow no disturbance in his place of business. He was checked very closely by the Dallas Police Department every night. The officers who had this duty were strictly business and would appear at the Carousel Club practically every night at closing time to insure that RUBY was abiding by the regulation that all glasses and drinks had to be moved from the tables by 12:15 a.m., or 1:15 a.m. on Sundays. RUBY always carried at least $2,000 or $3,000 in cash with him to and from his place of business. He carried this money in a sack and on each trip he would take a revolver and place it in the bag on top of the money. This is the only gun possessed by RUBY, as far as Mr. SENATOR knew. (J- w'/> — Continued Senator Exhibit No. 5403 438 DL 14-1639 (3) In recent weeks RUBY has been trying to promote a Twist Board, He has been getting up about 8 or 9 a.m. each day, prior to November 22, 1953. and visiting various department stores in an effort to promote this article. SENATOR advised that he has heard various reports that RUBY is a hor:io3exual; however, he is certain from his own observations that RUBY's sex habits are those of a normal man. SENATOR advised that RUBY had many friends in Dallas, but ho was unable to specify his closest friends, other than RALPH PAUL, who operates a place of business in Dallas; a MR. CAHPISI, who operates the Egyptian Lounge, and WALLY WESTON, a master of ceremonies, who has previously worked for RUBY. SENATOR advised that JACK RUBY did not have credit cards of any description, to his knowledge. SENATOR examined a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD and advised that he has never seen the man previously. He advised that the .names LEE HARVEY OSWALD, 0. H, LEE, or HIDELL meant nothing to him. He stated that he has absolutely no information to indicate that RUBY had any connection with OSWALD. The following description of SENATOR was secured during the course of the interview: Name GEORGE SENATOR Race White Sex Male Ago 50 Date of Birth 9/4/13 Place of Birth Gloversville , New York Height 5'7 1/2" Weight 190 pounds Build Heavy Hair Brown, graying, curly Eyes Brown, wears horn-rimmed glasses Complexion Dark Scars S Marks Small mole on left cheek near nose; small scar across bridge of nose Military Service' USAF SN 12006042, enlisted 8/21/41, Albany. New York; discharged honorably 9/9/45, Fort Dix, New Jersey exv —Continued Senator Exhibit No. 5403 439 DL 1+4-1639 Marital Status Divorced Relatives: Ex-wife SHIRLEY BOREN WEXLER, Coral Gables, Florida Son ROBERT LEE SENATOR, age 15, Coral Gables, Fla. Father ABRAHAM SENATOR, deceased Mother ANNA SENATOR, deceased Brother JAKE SENATOR, Gloversville, New York Brother SAM SENATOR, Rochester, New York Sister FRIEDA WEISBERG, 2255 Grand Concourse, Bronx, New York Sister PEARL SEN/VTOR (married name and address unknown) Sister LENA BIENANSTOCK, 1565 O'Dell Street, Bronx, New York Occupation Salesman of woman's appeirel for Smoler Brothers of Chicago, Illinois, for about 10 years. Presently distributes postcards under name of Texas Post Card Company, 3616 Cedar Springs, Dallas, Texas Arrest Record Admits only one arrest — about 1960 or 1951, Dallas Police Department, for drunkenness, was not fingerprinted 6/?/^* ?0 Senator Exhibit No. 5403 —Continued 440 . / rD.302 (R.Y, 3-3-59)" '(^ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTlf'TION n.>. 12/10/63 JCIvK 0. SERVAKCE, Head Porter at r.ight of the Police & Cc^^rto Building and the Kunicipal Building of Dallas, Te:^ac, v;ho resides at 319 Lancaster Hutchins Road, Lancaster, Texas, furnished the following informa- tion: -tC- He was in the basement under the Municipal Building and Police & Courts Building, on November 24, .^ / <(% 1963, the day LEE HARVEY OSWALD was shot. SERVANCE C " ^ /' was there with a group of other city employees, including P ^y "^ ALFREDIA RIGGS , HAROLD FUQUA, EDWARD KELLY and LOUIS '^ t ^ - MC KINZIE. They were ordered by policemen* to leave / -^ "_ i the basement and SERVANCE was told to keep the elevator '~> r' 'V- from returning to the basement. LOUIS MC KINZIE V7as - -- ; .. operating the elevator. He took the elevator to the -J ^ i, first floor of the Municipal Building and took the --' 'V r ".'^ four or five men to the first floor on the elevator. ^" *"^ [^'^ When they arrived on the first floor, SERVANCE and most ^''^.^^^•/-^ ;. of the other individuals who had been in the basement -^ went to the door on the Commerce Street entrance of the Municipal Building and watched the location where the ramp leads from the basement to Commerce Street. On Commerce Street, there was an armored car parked and there was one armored car backed up to the entrance of the ramp There was a policeman at the door of the . first floor of the Municipal Building who would not allow SERVANCE and the other men to come out; therefore, they remained on the first floor and watched. The only other man SERVANCE recalled being on the first floor with him was a Mr. PEARSON, who is a maintenance employee of the city and a telephone repairman. SERVANCE first learned that OSWALD had been shot when an ambulance came out of the building taking OSWALD to the hospital. The elevator did not return to the basement, but the elevator operator, LOUIS MC KINZIE, did operate the elevator between the first and top floors of the Municipal Building, since there were workers still in the Municipal Building SERVANCE stated he does not know JACK RUBY nor did he know LEE HARVEY OSWALD^ ^ ^ -_Ex.No.5131 SERVANCE, J. 0. Deposition. Dallas 4-1-64 on 12/10/63 o* .Dallas, Texas . -•• u rilo Jr DL 44-1639 by Spociol Ag«nt JACK B„ PEDEN/eah Dot. dictated 12/10/63 ThU document contain* n.lthor r«comm*ndatlona nor conclusion* of th» FBI. It U tb» proparty ol th« FBI and U loanad to youc agcaoy; It and ita contoats or* not to b« dUUlbulad eutald* you>,ag*acy. Servancb Exhibit No. 5131 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 30 441 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 1 442 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 2 443 'He poked a riffle out that windoiHf' Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 3 444 Clues in Slaying " See Back* m-uyv EXCLUSIVE OSWALD PHOTOS! Cyprus Fighting Spurs British Troop Buildup Imasion \ank« >^ 'r> > iiike> Die in Mel (^ ^ !? I , Photos \ ital Link in Probe Rule's I ^i\\\i I- l)i»a(i\ Ihstoiinl Oil ^luilii:> Oik ^Ia^ Oml hitlu(H(( nl Rnis r ^ In Paiutimi thols ( ( iiU'i Blor \X ins hlodion iii (»roete 1HA0 lii ff] Aloiida) Mone} Specials »riJ!/"lr w". hj Shaneytelt Exhibit No. 4 445 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 5 little dignity. picked, thev would base more than A Liltle Diirnitv" i,„,uj;li Al,in.,d, to keep themselves busy. there is the feeling that there ,„k I., ,,i,,st he .something alxiut the assassina- 1,1,, ll.it hasn't been told." Siiid Maurice .ind r.ned to snmiuiid the atlom.vs Acl.inis ol The Svdiiev (Australia) D;,ll.,s (..„„,.. a,.pn. .Moments later, the courtroom w.is htil Mornini; Her.iUI ' Aiid this is the place lam as the doors were opened and tin ,1 in,,sl rome out " .Months of legwork T\' cameramen and photographers, \\l,o h.ivr i.oii\iiK<-d almost .ill U.S. newsmen calvfs. the (U'pnt>' stopped .ilnu are not allowed inside during court that the proceedings, battled each other for the "Is lliat a garter?" he demanded news. "What happened to poor Jack Riihv^- s;„d Mnrrav Keinpton of The V,-,,!,,- rcpli.-d U,.l, Consul,,,,, ol fl„- \,-.A ll.r,,l,ll, |o,>l,i,,,. ,,l tlir .h.ios .,11 il,,,is, M.-.kIIi,.,- S,.|a,. . I, J 'II, l,,|.s LTn„,U M„,,ll,-, \\..ii III I..- Lee Oswald, KvnuetWs al Fresidiril To the visiting neusmeii leged assassin. (from Homer Bigart of The \e» York Times and Dorothy Kilgallen of Hearst to Karel KvTic-el of Radio Prague and sixteen Britons), the initial eiuounter with Texas-style legal pnx^edure was downright nn.settling. Inside, three green spilt,K)ns de;a/eil al the saloon-art wall portraits ol Miss Jus- tice and .Miss Liberty." reported Stan Opotowsky in The New York Peen discussed at length in the then lie searched every time he enters. world's press for three mimths. To make Once inside, it's man forevery life easier for the reporters, a public- himself One British artist, who felt he relations firm set up press room ,i wasn't getting a good view of Ruby, with .14 pliones .md sixteen Wesleni first persuaded the sheriff to asli the Union m.Hlinies, defendant to lixik his way (which he X» .>>».i .Mthongl, the biggest did and then, before a morning session ) hard iie»s so l.ir li.is been the naming started, wandered over to Htiby's table. of the jiirors. visiting newsmen last Aj Ruby's attorneys chatted with the week »ere still filing some 40.(X)0 words press, lie talked with the defendant and a day b> \k ire and a great deal more by completed his drawing. "He wanted to phone. Il the demand for cupy that hair.' said the artist. "And he finally their editors were re<|uesling. Yet they laid. 'C;i»e me a break will you? Give all realized that once the jiirv was ' ' ' - J^ ^^.l- l^l Integration and the City '' EN],™'.'' FOUR ARE BARRED SPLIT INTENSIFIED f I ' AS RUBY JURORS IN SITDOWN PLEAS ^„ ^ B„o,a p.p«-n.^« »"« *"* ™''^"''' "'*^ s!«ff«t«iu,K.s POSITION MOWFlEli ON A HEW BOyCOTT , Roosevelt Raceway opens tomorrow night Come on out. -=^jifcv 5 U-2D- » Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 6 447 ASTONISHING PHOTO Lee Oswald Shown With the Murder Weapons '^^ ^^^ju y^^'^9 ^^>^>^'^ Mr. JUN 1 6 1954 Jjj^ LIFS Wtga«lPO Ij«tf York, B«v Torii 10039 Dwr 81rtt Mr. lyndal L. StaatTftlt* tm ISZ ^QMrt la 3^liotoenLphar# iMtlfltA ia OMMlMloa iprocMdlBSii tliKt tfat i^tograpb 4«pietl2« Lm BuTty Oraali bolAins » rin« «hlcli i^|>pMjr>ed la your Imvw of ftobnary 21, 19^, IwA l»««a »toiicte4 la Tsrloua r»Bp««ta ^fcotr piibUcattoB* If thlt tMilaottjr it «rroMM(u«» ploan Infom ua •aA, if ponlia«« i*nd «• a eopor «f tlM priat oa utiieh your nvroAuetioa tMM liaMA. U •• 4to aat hswr firoa yw liy Oiaaa 45, X9^# w «iU aamM yva «• aat itainw^ Np* Omatarfalt** tMtin>aar. 81ae«rtlar, J. Xm finakia Ctaaeral CeaaMl c Shaneyfclt Ejdiibit Ho. 8 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 8 449 r^ / :^WESTEr' ' "JNI SVMSOLS LIFE TIMC «. Lire UILOIN< nocRcrcLUCH ccntcm NEW VOHN lOOtO June 29, 1964 Dear Mr. Rankin: As promised, here are the prints of the Osvald picture. As you can see, It was originally on an almost square negative but In order to fit It to our cover size, we cropped It at the left. This vas from the original copy negative we made In Dallas. The retouching, as you can tell from comparing with the cover as published, was simply to bring the figure out a little more clearly. I repeat that no significant part of the picture was changed. Z hope this clears up yoor question. Cordially, Bdward K. Thompson ' EDITOR J. Lee Rankin General Counsel President's Coomission on the Assassination of President Kennedy 200 Maryland Avenue, W.B. Washington, D.C. A Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 10 451 JLRiVR'.mr I^^^^^^^H JUL 7 CS4 I f ec: Mr. BB, 196J»; and th» occcnpoK^BS FbOtOgTBjptO. Ascox^Line to your tcl«cnui, you foruardod *a copy of print w uMd." Apparently Booa rctout^hic^ van doce oo thla print but It is difficult for us to deteniitt tte ftxaot aaaunt of nrtouohing vithout hovinc th« actual prist on vhicb tl>» retouching vaa done. It ia our undaratanding that you faava forwardad a print vhich does not purport to bo tba ratouobed prist froa «tidi the oowr vaa aad«. 1% Is tbia ratooobad prLnt ildab «• wmld lite to ztcaiv*. since raljf SIOMED J. taa Raakla OtotraX (^maaX Shaneyfelt Exhibit Ho. 11 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 11 452 LIFE TIME & LIFE BUtlDING lOCKcritiii ciNTii NEW YORK 20 ""' juoaoN •••af« July 8, 1964 !)ear Mr. Rankin: Tour letter confuses me a bit but I hasten to do what [ think you want. The prints you received were indeed the pristine versions of the one we used; they came from the same copy negative (t assume the Coomission has the original negative). [ thought you could compare them with the published cover and figure out how much retouching was done. But here is the retouched print. Tou can take out the retouching (which we put in simply to make it more reproduceable because the original was not exactly the acme of photographic perfection) with a piece of cotton soaked in water or a finger noistened with saliva and have the original as wis received it. I note, on close examination, that the retoucher was a little careless in making the rifle stock straight instead of with a •light dip. There is a little more retouching around the bolt but a comparison with the original will convince you, I'm sure, that nothing essential has been changed. I said this previously. We are, of course, glad to co-operate with the Conmlsslon. Could you return this print, pleat*, for our files when you have finished with it? Sincerely, Edward K. Thompion r EDITOR Enc. J. Lee Rankin General Counsel President's Coomission on tha Assassinatlon- of President Kennedy 200 Maryland Avenue, N. B. Washington, D. C. I Shaneyfelt tohibit Ho. 12 Shajneieelt Exhibit No. 12 453 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 13 454 %l'' ^1 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 14 455 / ._ I Shaneyfelt B^diiblt Ho. l6 """ 444 MADISON AVENUE NEW YORK.N.v.iooaa HA 1-1234 Newsweek OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT June 24, 1964 Dear Mr. Rankin: Your letter of June 16 concerning the photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald appearing in our issue of March Z, 1964, has been referred to me. Since the question of the retouching of this photograph in various publications has been raised as an issue by critics of the investigation, I believe that your inquiry warrants a somewhat more detailed response than you have invited. I am informed by our editors that the photograph they re- ceived was so poor in quality that, as a matter of routine procedure, it was retouched to improve it for reproduction. We are unaware that it was published anywhere without re- touching of some kind. In the retouching at Newsweek, the technician inadvertently brushed out the telescopic sight which --as we have since had occasion to note --is visible only so barely in the original photograph that it might well escape any but the closest attention. There was, of course, no intention to alter the substance of the photograph. If there isany other information I can provide in this con- nection --or with respect to any aspect of your work -- please let me know. Gibson McCabe Hon. J. Lee Rankin General Counsel President's Commission On The Assassination of President Kennedy 200 Maryland Ave. N. E. Washington, D. C. 20002 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 16 '44-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 31 , 457 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 17 ^l^t J^eto ^trrk aTtJtt^a June 17, 1964 Dear Mr. Rankin: Your letter of June 16 to The New York Times, which I assume was sent to various other publications and news agencies, has come into my hands, and I am able to give you the following reply: The photograph to which you refer and about which Lyndal L. Shaneyfelt testified before the President's Commission was supplied to The New York Times by the Associated Press, which has stated that it obtained the photograph from the Detroit Free . Press and/or the Dallas Morning News. The New York Times did not retouch the photo- graph in any way that would change the facts of the photograph--that is to say, it did not alter any essential feature of the photograph. I have our copy in front of us, and the only retouching that has been done is to outline Lee Harvery Oswald's head and right shoulder, to highlight the stock of the gun he is holding, to put a crease in his trousers and tone down somewhat the shadow cast by his figure. We are enclosing a copy of the print, but to see the points that we have made it would be necessary to examine the original, which we are keeping in our files. It is at your disposal if any members of your Commission wish to see it. We are also enclosing a photocopy of the reverse side of the photograph, which shows the source of the photograph, the caption that was printed with it, the dates on which it was published and so on. Once more, we express our appreciation for your cooperation with us and we are glad to be able to cooperate on this matter with you. '^ //^Sincerely, /^ Clifton Daniel Assistant Managing Editor The Hon, J. Lee Rankin General Counsel President's Commission 200 Maryland Ave., N.E. Washington, D.C. 20002 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 17 458 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. l8 Shanetfelt Exhibit No. 18 459 /-98 >/'"'>-'> /y, / tan WW T^«i3^FEBc 18) OSWALD A:iD HIS V/EAP0N3— This picture of I.e ^^^vey Osv/ald was taken about April of 1963 as he posei hi^ Dnl]as back 7/ard<, He held a rifle vrhich some belie- ed l\/ have been the v;eapon used in the Kennedy shooting* "f ,-.1 •pore a revolver on his hip, and held up a nevjspaper cal 1%. ""The Militant." Thj.s picture v/as published by^the Detr it Free Press and the Dallas Morning Nev.'s z' Cap V.'ireDhot^)(F'n045F-P) '64 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 19 460 Shaneylelt tlxhlblt Striking New York Printers Miss, Racists Break Publishers' Front as Shoot Down a THE Post Resumes Publication Rights Worker MIJ.ITANT Published in fhe Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 21 The War Hogs Fight At TFX Plane Worker Profit Trough By MIKE DAVIDOW TWOOF THE U.S. GIANTS in the rniliUry-industriaJ complex" are slugging it out for one of the most lucrative contracts of the cold war. That is the story behind the controversy in Washington over the recent contract ,^^___^^^^^^^^^_^^^^^^^^^__^_ Railroads Rejett awarded General Dynamics for th« fly TFX. 1.700 r . new ^ffhler plane and reach ^^ EDITOEIAL Killers on the Loose Union Request To General lakes the Polaris Dynamic THE OUTLAWS cks on responsible Cubs see such forays a nd Boeing Aircraft which pro- Renew Bargaining both sides to (resh talks General Dynamics { The SUte Department sible" and -iweffectlve" But thert are forces within the Pentagon wh are supporting such the President w There is only one way to end once and invoke the dO-day cool-ofl of the FDR used to feed' mill in theCaribbean. That Is for the President Railway Labor Act. which would that,whatever the official view of the goverrunent of the US. is with respect to socialism, it desires to live in4>eace with Cuba The the present state of d Cuban government has often declared that it wants peaceful rela- Dation-9 Capitol. Is t rose to challenge the I Such a declaraUoo by the Kennedy administration, and its en- meanwhile, centered forcement within the Pentagon and the CIA, would have the over- whelming support of the American people. hosplUls huiury chUdrcn of coal mlr ers expires, A Supreme Court to HaBsard. Kentackr Uck ruling had rejected *the appeal sabstaatlsl meal a day. of the unions against the mass No. the ftght that has ( dismissal plan that had last year brc.iled all Washington, and been recommended by a Presi- long-standing wo that Permanent Terror Spreads to Syria, Tnnisia J E. Wolfe, chjef negoljator Id it was n«gotlaL« until the Communist Syria and Tunisia, Damascus empt> of civilian*. to General Dynamics by Secre- Mustafa fi tary of Defense Robert S. Mc- mittee Is among the There is =1111 one more hu oners in Damaacus. hat can hold up the mass The coup in Syrii pur $58 billion military budget Demchenko Pravda's mssals of 13.000 firemen s distributed. Which plane is superior Is a in February under covi «n p»ce !•) Communist slogans. Communist Party Hailed for Peace Fight In Face of Fierce McCarran Act Persecution «J ABT I MOSCOW — The story of the American Communist*' struggle against the fascist McCarran law went to millions of readers last Sunday in the columns of Pravda. The story KONNyHHCTU-HECTb H COBECTb TPYJIOBOII ANEPNKN fills a page, and comes aa a climax to dozens of other articles HX HE CnOMflT HM TPAB/IJI, HU nPECnEAOBAHMfl in the Soviet press about the attemiJts to outlaw the peace movement and projrresgive organiiations in the U.S. The page is topped by a double line, eight-column cap- tion, which says that the Communists are "the honor and conscience of the American working people. They will not be broken by harrassment or persecution." Just under the headline in the center is a twoTnbol» of unity of white and black in the U.S. Communist Party." Winston asks: "Why is reaction trying to convict us?" "That" he explains, "i« because — Commupists ar« now TBK PBAVDA rAOK M tfec ( I rartj •< Ik* v.*. talked about by all people. The reactionaries are fri«hten«d PROTEST MURDERS Aim FASCIST TERROR IN IRAQ J«te Mm PMw^ Um M Mday. March 22. fTMB S PJN. «• « rJM. at «g df Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 24— Continued 468 —Continued Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 24 469 u ohaneyfelt Exhibit No. 2k Shanettfelt Exhibit No. 24—Continued 470 '"< f %' ? Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 25 471 , "~ . Shaneyfelt Exhlt)it No. 26 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION In Reply, PUam Refer to ^ t -, , ^^ s •'"ly 17, 1964 , FU.No. Dallas, Texas LEE HABVEY OSWALD By letter dated July 7, 1964, the President's Commission requested additional Investigation concerning an alleged mark on the curb in the vicinity of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) Dallas, Texas, which had been photographed by James Underwood, a Newsman with KRLD-TV, Dallas, Texas. In connection with this request, the President's Commission letter made available a photograph of the curb made by Tom Dillard of "The Dallas Horning News" which had been forwarded to the President's Commission by Martha Joe Stroud, Assistant United States Attorney, Dallas, Texas. On July 15, 1964, James Underwood, residence, 9751 Parkford Drive, Dallas, Texas, a Newsman for KRLD-TV, Dallas, was shown two photographs. One of these photographs is of a mark on the curb on the south side of Main Street near the triple underpass and shows a hand shielding the light from this mark. The second photograph was taken looking across Main Street and up Elm Street toward the TSBD. Mr. Underwood identified these photographs as frames taken from a 16 mm movie film, which film was taken by him on the morning of November 23, 1963. Mr. Underwood advised he had been told by a Deputy Sheriff, whose name he could not recall, that there was a mark on the curb on the south side of Main Street near the underpass, which was possibly made by a ricocheting bullet. The photograph of the hand shielding the mark on the curb was made by Underwood squatting down in the gutter to get a close-up view of the mark, and the picture of the TSBD was taken by placing the handle attached to the underneath side of Underwood's movie camera on the curb near the mark and pointing the camera back toward the TSBD, in order to get a low-leval shot. Mr. Underwood repeated what he had told Federal Bureau of Investigation Agents on June 11, 1964, that he could not be positive the mark was made by a ricocheting bullet, but appeared to him that it could have been, based on knowledge acquired by him while in the military service. He further stated it was definitely a mark on the curb and not a nick in the curb. He repeated that the concrete was not broken and that the mark appeared to have possibly been made recently, but he could not Judge how much time had passed since the. mark was made when he took the photographs of it. Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 26 472 LEE HARVEY OSWALD Mr. Underwood stated that prior to taking the photographs au met Tom Dillard, a Photographer for "The Dt'-las Morning Se^ws," near th« entrance to the Da 11a is CouBtv Jail, s rd had told Dillard about the information he had received from the Deputy Sheriff about the mark on the curb. Dillard indicated he would possibly also take a still photograph of this mark. On July 15, 1964, Tom C. Dillard, residence, 7022 Merrilee Lane, Dallas, Texas, a Photographer for "The Dallas Morning News," advised that on the morning of November 23, 1963, while at the Dallas County Jail entrance, he had received information from James Underwood, a Newsman for KRLD-TV, to the effect there was a mark on the curb on the south side of Main Street near the triple underpass. Underwood had told Dillard that the mark was possibly made by a bullet. Later during the afternoon of November 23, 1963, Dillard, using a Mamiyaflex 120 Camera, took a picture of a mark on the curb on the south side of Main Street about twenty feet east of the triple underpass. Dillard stated he was of the opinion the mark very possibly could have been made by a ricocheting bullet and that it had been recently made. Mr. Dillard was shown a photograph of a mark on the curb with a hand holding a pencil pointing toward the mark. He identified this photograph as a copy of the one he had taken on the afternoon of November 23, 1963. Mr. Dillard stated he definitely recalls it was a mark on the curb rather than a nick in the curb and the concrete was not broken or chipped. On July 15, 1964, two Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, accompanied by Tom C. Dillard, a Photographer for "The Dallas Morning News," and James Underwood, a Newsman for KRLD-TV, went to the area approximately twenty feet east of the triple under- pass ar.d on the south side of Main Street. Through the use of the same camera used by Mr. Underwood on November 23, 1963, and by alig:aing three reference points in a photograph of the TSBD taken by Mr. Underwood on November 23, 1963, from this same area, it was ascertained the mark observed and photographed by Mr. Underwood and Mr. Dillard had been at a point on the curb twenty-one feet and eleven and one-half inches east of a point where Main Street passes under the triple underpass. This same point where the mark had been observed by Mr. Underwood and Mr. Dillard wao seventy-three feet and five inches west of the first lamp post on the south side of Main Street, which lamp post is the first one located eant from the triple underpasG on Main Street. - 2 - Shaneyfext Exhibit No. 26 —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 32 473 LEE HARVEY OSWALD The area on the curb from this poimt for a distance of ten feet In either direction vas carefully checked and it was ascertalnc there was no nick In the curb In the checked area, nor was any mark observed. Reference points In the photograph taken by Mr. Underwood used to locate this point were a lamp post located In the right of the photograph, which appears to be midway between two buildings, a. lamp post located on the north side of Elm Street, which Is In line with the third row of windows from the southwest corner of the TSBD, and which face south, and a traffic sign located on the left side ol the photograph, which is to the west of the TSBD. It should be noted that no nick or break in the concrete was observed, in the area checked, nor was there any mark similar to the one in the photographs taken by Underwood and Dlllard observed in the area checked either by the Special Agents, by Mr, Underwood, or by Mr. Dlllard. It should be noted that, since this mark was observed on November 23, 1963, there have been numerous rains, whlct could have possibly washed away such a mark and also that the area is cleaned by a street cleaning machine about once a week, which would also wash away any such mark. - 3 - Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 26 —Continued 474 orncK or THR niREcroa Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 2? UNITED STATES DEPAKTMbINT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION WASHINGTON, D.C. J0S5S August 12, 1964 By Courier Service Honorable J. Lee Rankin General Counsel The President's Commission 200 Maryland Avenue, N. E. Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Rankin: Reference is made to your letter dated July 7, 1964, requesting additional examination of the mark appearing on the curbing on the south side of Main Street near the triple underpass at the assassination site in Dallas, Texas. This mark was located and was found to be 23 feet, 4 inches from the abutment of the triple underpass. The Laboratory comparison of the mark as it now appears with the photographs made by James Underwood, a newsman for KRLD-TV in Dallas, and Tom Dillard, a photographer for the Dallas Morning News, establishes they are photographs of this same mark. Four copies of the results of the interviews with Mr. Underwood and Mr. Dillard are attached. In response to your inquiry, assuming that a bullet shot from the sixth floor window of the Texas School Book Depository Building struck the curb on the south side of Main Street at the location of the mark described above and assuming it passed directly over the President, the bullet would have passed over the President at approximately frame 410 on the Zapruder film. This is 97 frames after the shot that struck the President in the head which is frame 313. At 18.3 frames per second, this represents a lapse of time of 5.3 seconds between frame 313 and frame 410. Based on a direct shot from the sixth floor window to the curb on Main Street, this bullet would have passed over the center of Elm Street at an elevation of about 18 feet from the street level. It is noted that in frame 410 of the Zapruder Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 27 475 Honorable J. Lee Rankin film, Mrs. Kennedy has returned to the seat beside the President and Secret Service Agent Hill is about midway from the back bumper to the President crawling across the trunk lid. The piece of curbing containing the mark was removed on Augiist 5, 1964,and examined in the FBI Laboratory. This curbing haf been designated as Item C321 by the Laboratory. Small foreign metal smears were found adhering to the curbing section within the area of the mark. These metal smears were spectrographically determined to be essentially lead with a trace of antimony. No copper was found. The lead could have originated from the lead core of a mutilated metal- jacke ed bullet such as the type of bullet loaded into 6.5 millimeter Manniicher-Carcano cartridges or from some other source having the same composition. The absence of copper precludes the possibility that the mark on the curbing section was made by an unmutilated military-type full metal-jacketed bullet such as the bullet from Governor Connally's stretcher, CI, or the bullet or bullets represented by the jacket fragments, C2 and C3, found in the Presidential limousine. Further, the damage to the curbing would have been much more extensive if a rifle bullet had struck the curbing without first having struck some other object. Therefore, this mark could not have been made by the first impact of a high velocity rifle bullet. It was also determined from a microscopic study that the lead object that struck the curbing causing the mark was moving in a general direction away from the Texas School Book Depository Building. Assuming this mark was made by a fragment of a bullet - 2 - Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 27 — Continued 476 Honorable J. Lee Rankin from the assassin*s rifle, the evidence present is insufficient to establish whether it was caused by a fragment of a bullet striking the occupants of the Presidential limousine, such as the bullet that struck the President's head, or whether it is a fragment of a shot that may have missed the Presidential limousine. This completes the request in your letter dated July 7, 1964. The piece of curbing is available in the FBI Laboratory. A photograph of the mark on the curbing before removal and a photo- graph of the curbing after removal are attached. Sincerely yours, a-"v Enclosures (6) Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 27 — Continued 477 loyi-elt- ExMbit No. 25 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 28 Shaneyfelt Exhibit Ko. 29 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 29 478 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 29 — Continued 'eyfeK ExhiMi :^ Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 29 — Continued 479 Shaneyfelt Exhibit, Ho. 30 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 30 \ Shaneyfelt Exhihit No. 31 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 31 480 Shaneyi-elt Exhibit No. 4ii^ Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 32 Siaoeyfelt Ervhlbit Mo. Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 33 481 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 34 ^juiioit Ho. 35 Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 35 482 or THE DIRBCTOB Shaaeyfelt Exhibit No. 56 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION WASHINGTON, D.C. lOSSS September 3, 1964 By Courier Service Honorable J. Lee Rankin General Counsel The President's Commission 200 Maryland Avenue, N. E. Washington, D. C. Dear Mr, Rankin: Special Agent Lyndal L. Shaneyfelt of the FBI Laboratory furnished a deposition at the Commission offices on the morning of September 1, 1964. At the conclusion of the deposition, Mr. Norman Redlich of your staff requested that Special Agent Shaneyfelt furnish a letter advising the distance from the President at the time he was struck in the head by a bullet (frame 313 of the Zapruder assassination film) to the mark on the curbing removed from the south side of Main Street that has been referred to in previous testimony as Shaneyfelt Exhibit number 34. Special Agent Shaneyfelt has determined that the distance from the President's location in frame 313 of the Zapruder film to the mark on the curb on the south side of Main Street near the underpass is approximately Sincerely yours, .V Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 36 483 SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 484 YOUTH HOUSE SOCIAL WORKER'S REPORT BRONX 5/7/53 26996 Date of Admission Vl6/53 ame OSWALD, LEE Age 18 October 1939 Day Mo . Year idress 825 East 179th Street, Bronx, N.Y. Fathe r Lee (Dec) 3cial Worker Evelyn Strictanan Mother Margarlte PSYCHIATRIC STUDY Lee Oswald is a seriously detached, withdrawn youngster of thirteen, renanded to Youth House for the first time on a charge of truancy. There is no previous court record. Laconic and tacitiim, Lee answered questions, but volunteered almost nothing about himself spontaneously. Despite the fact that he is very hard to reach, Lee seems to have some ability to relate which in view of the solitary existence he has been leading, is somewhat sxu-prising. There is a rather pleasant, appealing quality about this emotionally starved, affectionless youngster which grows as one speaks to him, and it seems fairly clear that he has detached himself from the world around him because no one in it ever met any of his needs for love. Lee said he was at Youth House for truancy and that his truancy was caused by his preference for other things, which he considered more important. Questioning as to ^rtiat these things were elicited fhs answer "Oh, just things" but it was finally learned that Lee spent all of his time looking at television auid reading various magazines. He said his trusuicy never became serioixs until he moved up here from Fort Worth, Texas, about five or six months ago. He never liked school, however, and never formed close relationships with other people. By persistent questioning, the information received from Lee was as follows: his father died before he was bom and he doesn't know a thing about him. He has no curiosity about his fether, says he never missed having one, ajid never thought to ask about him. His mother was left with three children, John, 21 in the Coast Guard and stationed in New York for the last two years; Robert, I8, a pilot in the Air Force Marines and Lee. Lee said his mother sttpported them by working as an insurance broker and she was on the go all day long. He doesn't remember anyone else taking care of hla and he thinks she either left him in the care of his older brothers or else that he shifted for himself. She wotild leave early in the morning and come home around seven or ei^t at night after a hard day's work. Occasionally he went with her, but found her frequent stops to sell insurance boring, while he waited for her in the car. Lee ate lunch in school and often made his own meals at night. When his mother did make meals, he was often dissatisfied with them, and complained to her that she just threw things together. Her answer was that she was too tired after a hard day's work to feel like fussing. Lee saw little of his brothers, partially because of the difference in their ages and partially because the older boys were either working or going out with their own friends, so that they didn't want Lee tagging after them. Lee spent veiy little time with the boys in his neighborhood, and preferring to be alone, when he came in from school would watch television or read magazines. It was SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 485 Sie^ei ti::dubit No. 1 <^m tkia p«riod that 1» '•n-aneiaf dlffliailt. l#««a brotb altered tht »ervic€ :fuft pUtytac witti it» —it IR&i" *he W&9 ^_ _ _-jiipl«tBly Bolit rM.iigi , dt«in»t b»m to live by auiy rales or ct b«d aatll BiwitBi or twwlv- ^ -^ lOU — *- -- Mm: mad* idlx>ok«4 «t ag:Bsin«9. oh It c*»e to *•«!. xcr » ti.oufht b» woul': 'riiAi*% "jvl t^^ffi""' ^"^'^/^'<^i"^ <^^' trilWJ'tjPt »t. h« start faf».'.«rerr«d ld« IKyblle »eM«l in tha Brora/ *t wUich poini •itofttber. • -*— '• / •ehooX •tout.-ah* w««r did' ah* wcuU W- Ms 1 ^ I IBSt MR Ua Mid hU RDtlier ' l iJjHlflliri?^i ^^ ._-^ i h*ppeaca t.- is not aacQRfbfed hla » w«y wjjfiniw triwJ to »cjch. »«^ to «Rxpr«s«ifi^| ftf aiMNiratiu SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1— Continued 486 OSWALD, LEE - 2 - C#26996 dviring this period that he was already experiencing, difficulty in school. He said it wasn't because he covildn't do the work, hut he never felt like it or thou^t it was very important. He learned to read adequately but felt he had trouble in English grammar and arithmetic. He denied smy feelings of inferiority in relation to the other boys in his class. After Lee's brothers entered the service and John was stationed in New York, his mother decided to come here to be near John. They drove up five or six months ago, ajid moved into John's apartment in Manhattan. Questioning revealed that while Lee felt John was glad to see them, his sister-in-law, Marjorie, was unhappy about their sharing the apartment \antil they could find a place of their own ajad she made them feel unwelcome. Lee had to sleep in the living room during this periodalthoiigh there was five rooms inthe apartment and he admitted that this made him feel as he always did feel with grownups - that there was no room for him. His face lost its usual impassive expression for a moment when he talked about John's baby, however and he said he had a good deal of fun playing with it. Lee s mother finally found an apartment of he r own on the Grand Concourse in the Bronx ' and she also foxmd a job as an assistant manager in a woman's clothing shop. This meant that she was away from home all day. Lee made his own meals and spent all his time alone because he didn't make friends with the boys in the neighborhood. He with- drew into a completely solitary smd detached existence where he did as he wanted and he didn't have to live by any rules or come into contact with people. He stayed in bed until eleven or twelve, got up and made himself something to eat and then sat and looked at magazines. When they first came to New York, his mother enrolled him in a private Lutheran Academy because he thought he would like this. After two months he didn't find school interesting or important so he started to truant. He was then transferred to a public school in the Bronx at which point he stopped going to school altogether. When questioned about his mother' s reaction to this he said she told him to go to school "but she never did anything about it." When he was asked if he wished that she would do something he nodded axd finally emerged with the fact that he just felt ais mDther "never gave a damn" for him. He always felt like a burdenthat she had to tolerate, and while she took care of his material needs, he never felt that she tfas involved with him in any way or cared very much what happened to him. When Lee and his mother are home together, he is not imcomfortable with her, but they never have anything tu say to each other. She never pimishes him because she is the t;.ind of person who just lets things ride. It was hard for him to say whether she icted the same way towards his brothers, because he never noticed. Although his Brothers were not as detached as his mother was, he experienced rejection from them, too, and they always pushed him away when he tried to accompany them. They never net any of his needs. He aaid he had to be "my own father" because there was never any 3ne there for him. His mother bought his clothes without consulting him (which he lidn't mind too much) and gave him aji occasional q\iarter, but she was completely ietached from him andthey had little communication with each other. He felt that she ra.s very much like him, in a way, because she didn't talk much. She has a few friends /ho visit occasionally, but she is eqimlly silent with them. Lee feels that his mother laa always left him to shift pretty much for himself ajid showed no concern about lim whatsoever. jee was able to respond to expressions of understanding for his lonely situation, 3ut he denied that he really felt lonely. Questioning elicited the information that feels almost as if there is a veil between him and other people through which bhey cannot reach him, but he prefers this veil to remain intact. He admitted, lowever, the tearing aside of the veil in talking to a social worker was not as painfel as he would have anticipated. He was not comfortable in talking but he rets not as distxirbed in talking about his feelings as he thought he might be. When SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 487 Sie"el Exhibit No. 1 A«Mtf WH. toi mmiX M^ ttM mbA mv*f iMiag ^*^«U. ,it this «•? , ' fmls kU aw llUPtlf to do ». <^-- «f ft Vt to put k«- ta htm.M^m&Emm^>^y»«'''»*'?^^ if other ba^s cr. gwCTXl. -o. tall MelB^VMM* wTttid ^ «• Mt • CMMld tawi 1««« bar bu^Mtid wt -^=*^' . Bornint; of «r » iclt od»tfhelp ft dl*6 ither. al ? wks only a* Af «l>*d tiwIaS. ir«ip«, »• *l»«ys» SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 490 OSWALD, LEE - 4 - C#26996 One of the first things Mrs. Oswald demanded to know was why Lee was at Youth House but she gave no opportunity to explain the pirrpose of his stay here emd instead wanted to know if he had received a complete physical examination. She had not been satis- fied with a recent examination partic\ilarly with the genitalia. When she was told that oior examination had revesLLs nothing unusual, she looked at once relieved and dis- appointed. Mrs. Oswald gave what she termed her "analysis" of the situation as the move from Fort Worth to New York as being the reason for Lee's truancy. She herself had been very discomfited by the chajige, and said she was sorry she came, since she is finding it difficult to adjust to New York. At home where she was also a manager in women's shops, she had found her "help" with whom she made it a point never to mix, very respectful but here she complained of their arrogance. Furthermore, she found living conditions difficxilt. After her confidence was gained somewhat Mrs. Oswald said that she had come from Fort Worth to be near John, because Lee was left so much alone after Robert joined the Service. Her eyes filled with tears as she said there had been an exchange of letters and telephone ca3J-s with John Euixious for her to come, only to find out on arrival that her daughter-in-law was extremely cold. The daughter-in-law is only IT and went out of her way to let Mrs. Oswald know she could not stay with them permanently. Mrs. Oswald said she had had no such intention, although she did expect her daughter-in-law to put her up until she could find an apartment and a job. She was so uncomfortable there, however, that she took Lee and moved into a very inadequate basement apartment, where Lee seemed to become very depressed. As soon as she could she found an apartment in the Bronx and he seemed to perk up considerably. According to Mrs. Oswald, she never had any difficulty with Lee in Fort Worth and she disclaimed any knowledge of his truanting there. She said he had always been a very q\iiet boy, as was John and she felt they were like her, while Robert was like their father. Even when Lee was little, he never mixed freely with other children and she wanted it this way because she had always been a working woman who didn't want to have to worry about his wandering off or associating with other children. She instructed him to stay in the yard and he always did so. If other boys came to play with him that was all rigjit, although when other boys did approach him to play, he usually preferred to be by himself. She tho\ight this was in his natvire and that one coxildn't change a person's nature. She didn't see ajiything strange about his seclusiveness and said she was not a gregarious person herself and she had never felt the need to make friends. Q-uestioning revealed that Mrs. Oswald had lost her husband when she was seven months pregnant with Lee. He died suddenly one morning of a heart attack and in a burst of confidence she confided that since then, she has not spoken to his family. He died at 6 A.M. and she wanted him b\iried the same day because her thought was for herslef and the child she was carrying and she didn't think she could do her hiisbajid any good by an elaborate funeral or a wake. His family was horrified and said they never saw anything as cold as this. They have avoided her since and she had to rely on neighbor's help when Lee was bom. She justified herself at great length as not cold but "sensible." When it was offered that it must have been difficiLlt for her to be both parents as well as the breadwinner, proudly she said she had never found it so. She felt she was a very independent, self-reliant person, who never needed help from anyone, and who prilled herself up by her own bootstraps. Her mother died when she was only two, and her father raised six child]?en with the help of ho\isekeepers in a very poor section of New Orleans of mixed racial groups. She always had "high-falutin" ideas and managed to maJce something of herself. SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 491 SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 492 OSWALD, LEE - 5 - C#26966, ^er her husband died, Mrs. Oswald stayed at home for two years, taking care of the children and living on the insiirance her husband left. When this ran out, she placed the two older boys in a Lutheran Home and moved in with her sister who took care of Lee while she worked. At one point, Mrs. Oswald moved out and took a furnished room because she felt she had to have a free mind to work, and couldn't be bothered with a child. When her sister began to complain, however, since Ishe had a houseful of children of her own, Mrs . Oswald placed Lee in the Lutheran Home for three or four months too and the broiaght all the children home again. After she reconstituted the family she left the boys pretty much to their own devices since she was working all kinds of hoxirs euid did not get home imtil Late at night. All the boys were extremely quiet, rather withdrawn children (rtio made little demand on her and played by themselves. Of this she was very proxid. Lee hod a completely tmeventful deveopment except for the mastoid operation irhen he was five, but he was a very stoical child, who never complained of pain. Mrs. Oswald bathed all the children herself until they were 11 or 12, when, she said in an embarassed manner, they got a little too old for "me to look at". Her feeling was that New York City laws were in a large measure responsible for Lee's continued truancy and that if they had left things to her to handle, she could aave managed him. John also had been a truant and she let him go out to work \antil ae deddded that he wanted to go back to school. At first she had not been aware that Lee was truanting, since he dj^essed and left every morning^ but when she found out, she talked to him and made several visits to the school, but got nowhere. She ifamed him that he could be put away, but Lee didn't believe her. She thought the biggest mistake was the way the Bureau of Attendance approached the boy, and said they were making a "criminal out of him". She wanted to be able to raiser her 3wn child the way she saw fit. She agreed that if truancy were carried to a certain extent It covild be a problem. She wo\ild not agree that Lee's seclusiveness was i problem, although she finally admitted that there wassomething not quite right about the fact that he was entirely alone. She woioldn't be worried if he saw boys in school during the day and then wanted to be alone, bvrt if he was sLIone all day and half the night it didn't look so good. She listened attentively to the possible alternatives the court mi^t order to solve the problem, but she was angiy at the Idea of probation saying that this wasn't a "real chance". She also felt that involve- nent with a social worker was "talking to a stranger" and she didn't think this was a "real chance" either. She thought that he ought to have a chance to see if he could go to school without any probation officer or social worker to interfere and then, if he played hookey for even one day, he ought to be put away in a home. Her plan seemed to be more of an expression of her need to assert her own volition against authority than any imderstanding of Lee. She didn't seem to see him as a person at all, but as an extension of herself. Lee Oswald is a seriously withdrawn, detached and emotionally isolated boy of 13, »ho is at Youth House for the first time on a charge of truancy. Lee came here from Ft. Worth, Texas with his mother, about six months ago and he has been unable to make an adjustment in New York. The root of his difflc\ilties which produced ireimlng signers before he ever came here, seems to lie in his relationship with his Dother. Lee feels that stiile she always cared for his material needs she was never really involved with him and didn't care very much what happened to him. There was Qo one in his family who could meet his needs for love and interest since his father died of a heart attack two months before he was born and two older brothers now 21 and l8 were involved with their own friends and activities and repulsed his advances. Lee became a seclusive child who was thrown upon himself and his own resources and he never made friends with other children. His mother who worked and who, when he was an infant, demonstrated her need to shift responsibility for him by leaving him with her SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 493 SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1— Continued 494 OSWiLD, LEE - 6 - C#26966 sister and then placing him for avhile in a Home, appears to be a rigid, self- involved woman with strong ideas and she has little imderstandlng of this boy's behavior nor of the protective shell he has drawn aroiond himself in his effort to avoid contact with people which may resiilt in hurt for him. It is possible that her own negative atti- tudeabout casework help emd probation officers may conmmnicate itself to Lee, interfeirLng with his chances for help. On the other hand there would be little accomplished by placing him in the impersonal setting afforded by an institution - vrithout seeing, first, if he can be reached in therapy. Despite his withdrawal, he gives the impression that he is not so difficiilt to reach as he appears and patient, prolonged effort in a sustained relationship with one therapist might bring resiilts. Iliere are indications that he has suffered serious personality damage but if he can receive help quickly this might be repaired to some extent. SiEGEL Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 495 Siei'el Exiiibit No. 2 ..•£ -e. ««w"ls®w»-.gn« «< . -uss-a^««*'>- • ' •-#^; Bl» f«t*w 41«« • « lMf« !tojr'« •«»•« l|l *»«i»h «h» iiiii f ,|tof flrn i i i ^mw^mM^ igS^gg lA^^m*! wlpat. iMlMch ii SiFGEL Exhibit No. 2 496 OSWALD, Lee Harvey Case #26996 Charge: Truancy Adm: Vl6/53 INTERVIEW WITH BOY: This is a seriously detached withdrawn youngster who has preserved some ability to relate but is very hard to reach. He is laconic and taciturn and while he answered questions he volimteered almost nothing about himself. Toward the end of the inter- view he occasionally would say something gratuitoxisly without my asking him but on the whole everything had to be pulled from him. What is really surprising is that this boy has not lost entirely his ability to commimicate with other people because he has been leading such a detached, solitary existence for most of his life. He told me that he was at Youth House for truancy and his truancy is caused because he feels that he would prefer to do other things which are more important. Question- ing at first elicited "Oh, jxist things" but what I finally learned from him is that he spends all of his time looking at television, leafing over various magazines or just sleeping. Apparently his truancy really became serious when he moved up here from Fort Worth with his mother about five or six months ago, but he never did like school and apparently never formed relationships with other people. The story that I got from him condensed is very much as follows: His father died he believed before he was bom and he doesn't know a thing about him. He evinces absolutely no curiosity about him, says that he never missed having one and never thought to ask about him. His mother was left with three children, John who is 21 ajid in the Coast Guard smd who has been stationed in New York for the last two years, '" Robei-t Tirtio is I8 and is a pilot in the Air Force Marines and Lee who is 13. The ^ mother apparently supported these children by working as sji Insurance Broker and she was on the go all day long. He does not remember anyone else ever having taken of him and apparently ^en he was an infant she either left him in the care of his older brothers or he shifted for himself. She would leave early in the morning and come home around seven or eight at night after a hard day's work in which she was driving the car around all day tring to sell insurance. Ocassionally she took Lee with her on these trips but he wrinkled his nose and said it was very boring because she was always making stops, going into ho\ises and trying to sell people things. Lee ate lunch in school and often made his own meals. It was interesting that occasionally when his mother did make meals he was dissatisfied with them and wo\ild complain to her because she had just thrown things together. Her answer always was that she was so tired after a hard work that she hadn't felt like fussing. Lee saw little of his brothers because of the age difference partially and also because John was working when tbey were living at Fort Worth. Robert was always going out with his own friends and neither of the older boys wanted Lee tagging after them. It was already during this period that he was experiencing difficulty in school, not he said because he couldn't do the work but because he just never really felt like it nor thoioght that it was very Important. He learned to read very adequately and denied any feelings of inferiority in relation to other kids his own age in school but he said he used to have trouble with English Grammar and with Arithmetic. He spent very little time with the boys in his neiglhborhood preferring to be alone and when he came home from school would simply sit in the house, listen to the radio, looking at television or looking at different magazines. After both boys entered the service and John was stationed in New York, his mother decided to come to New York in order to be near John. They arrived here about five or six months ago and moved into John's apartment on East 92nd St., in Manhattan. In response to questioning Lee told me that while John seemed glad to see him, his sister in law, Margie., apparently was very unhappy at the fact that Lee and his mother shared the apartment for a while until they could find a place of their own. Lee said that she seemed like a rather cold person who wanted to be alone with John and did not meike his mother and him feel welcome. Although there were five rooms SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 497 Siet'el r::c]iibit No. r M 5r«*«wl * s«^ *-a of •n^oy»a» ta pUyias »li "fnitt^Wte for * eou?!* of wiath., hi. «rt>i»r fin»3^ Srtn* C<»eour»« ia th* Sranx. ** !• •. «»11 •l*rts •6*i» 8fo«sr.» !•• 4«»« aot Imiw Id. cwi r»«» and . l*>. !• astluw IM^ ftiiiBd Moric M «n Msi«t*Bt x&A-'^cM' la « >i la KMT i«*ia all -l^y. witiy *!•• Mi «m »• » kLw mlom In tto apartanit b«a«M« k» doMU'ii •n.ioy •«•> that la * w«y Qu«*U«liJ« »fi0a*-U»»i *J>w •UalWd th» r«=p«M« niah «n3 *h: i» lb IiSmb. «• didn't talk to p»opl. at •!!vaatr»ry •qa».:y sUor.-?- w > MOMiOiilly ••• *« visit th* Lm &ad aM *r« IMW •!«» fco«rt)iir te i« 1i«t taooafwrt.bl. wit . Sl.r^W^ .1«.t Ut. tldmg. rll.. For ln«t»«ca, •^ haotoy •»» told hi« to to seiMMl .-, it,tf^,d to pl*y it«. WHm I had *oii4»»^ if h. h«l wi.h.! th.t ah* h.d J« BodUlad Bwl-^mt flnnXly «»rg«4 that *m h# .lust f«lt Th^t .-.'w -iit-,.- '•— f gr hi». - » .lmy«;f»lt lito • tordan th»x .ha sUti-^- rhlU •!>• tcok WW* »r hit •tarlal nsed. h» WTur f« wi«D hi» tn •!» «l*l» Wky or a«r*i vwy auoh wh»-- l«pp*iMd to L any WkT ; -thirst* aatiM th« •'•>• towrd hi. ta-otJ-r. l-« rid 0»«ltng**« that aitolt. «• - " ' , ^ thay al*»y« aaawd to »«ac,^ •t; ia«* to aAttita for anythiag, - » Wfc »d*tta he la mo* auc««»«fuyin -aI-.s ._ doa.«'t mmt ta. - «• raally pra^ara t . - - wjy^wdy la thla . Alth«Meh his brethara , • om i^Jaotloa frait thi« too aiM i »so«»p|>apy thaai and th^ aarar < t» b«-M.« «» I ; mra »t 'by h^a a waak •&i aad ahoaad a ran lit ha withdraw ooiNPlat^ly In^^ . U .tuat do a. ha wwrtad to and didn't fall aaltpp %dj*» dty thay firat acM to Saw »orlc. hi. »oti or < baoauM aha thought that ha »oulJ like that but - -- — ora a»d .tairtaa truantlng v«' iKpartant. H« ««. thsn tr- SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 498 OSWALD, Lee Harvey - 2 - Case #26996 Ln the apartment, Lee was given a place to sleep in the living room amd admitted ;hat this was very much in line with what he had always been led to expect from 5rown ups - nobody ever had any room for him. His face lighted up however from Lts usual impassive expression when he talked about the three months old baby and le admitted that he had found a good deal of enjoyment in playing with it- Ifter they stayed with John for a couple of months, his mother finally found an ipartment on the Grajid Concourse in the Bronx. It is a small apartment with one Large room ajid again ofcourse Lee does not have his own room and sleeps in the Living room. His mother had found work as an assistsint manager in a woman's rear shop and she is away again all day. He mostly makes his own meals and spends his time alone in the apartment because he doesn't enjoy associating with ;he boys in the neighborhood. Questioning about Lee's mother elicited the response that in a way she was very auch like him. She didn't talk to people at all very much and while she had a few friends who occasionally came to visit she was equally silent with them. When jee and she are home alone together he is not uncomfortable with her but they never lave anything to say to each other. She never p\inishes him because she is the kind )f person who just lets things ride. For instance, he volunteered that when he started to play hookey she told him to go to school "but she never did anything about Lt". When I had wondered if he had wished that she had done something about it, he lodded and what finally emerged was that he just felt that his mother never gave a lamn for him. He always felt like a burden that she simply just had to tolerate ind while she took care of -his material needs he never felt that she was involved d.th him in any way or cared very much what happened to him. It was hard for him zo say whether she acted the same toward his brothers because he had never noticed )ut his general feeling was that adiilts were not to be tinsted, that if they gave rou anything they always seemed to want something in return and that you really louldn't look to adults for anything. He is much more prone to trust boys his own ige but admits he is not successful in making relationships with them mostly because le doesn't want to. He really prefers to be alone. He doesn't really feel that mybody in this world cares for him ajid he doesn't really care about anybody else. \ltho\igh his brothers were not as detached as his mother apparently he experienced some rejection from them too and that they always pushed him away when he tried to iccompany them and they never could really meet any of his needs. He told me that le had to be his own father because there was just no one there for him. His money leeds were met by his mother who would give him an occasional quarter or something )n a week end to go to a morie down at Forth Worth. As far as buying magazines ind other stuff was concerned he said he never bought very much so she never gave dm very much. She wo\ild b\jy his clothes without consulting him but he said that le didn't resent this because he usually liked what she brought home. She was apparently completely detached from him however and they had absolutely no communication with each other. She always left him to shift pretty much for himself smd showed no concern about him whatsoever. ks a result he withdrew completely into a detached and solitary existence where he ould just do as he wanted to and didn^t have to live by any rules and regulations :ior come in contact with people. He woiild stay in bed till eleven or twelve o'clock, get up and make himself to eat and then sit and i)ok at a magazine or look at a television program. He slept a good deal if he were able to although he says that he never fell asleep in the day. they first came to New York, his mother entered him in a private nursery school iflien because she thought that he would like that but after two months he decided that he didn't want it anymore emd started truanting because he just didn't seem to find it very interesting or important. He was then transferred to a public school in the SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continue^l 499 OSfULD, !>• Btjmy 1$ •ItJAtian «hleh I offarwd. frlght«oiwl but Vfam iw talto'. ^l:^«t fHtur* pl»nnia« for hl» Im tkld t: I and iw WM kiuKutt ia hla f^liag thrt If Iw w»r« pU;«d In «a-y klr rdlag Mhool ha •wsuld rue cway. ai r«e»r«t datachM hla»alf oc at waa willtog t», a«tei«ilad(5» with aa that nam affara hip var^ littl* 1 -^ — -— waata It this wiy. Aotaal^y U ha could haT» hla wlah ha would lltae 3 -^ - yba 5«la tha sarrlaa. Ha aoknowladgad the fact that '.t aarviloa ha would h«*« to ll*a vary oloaa to otl — ' -^ •• ' •--- follow a routina whioh ha flada axtrawly dl» hla-jwlf to that and aate hiaaalfl do It* la taa waa«laa if ha had hla 1 would prafar to ba oa hla on ani ha aald that If ha vara plao^id la a st rm amty ha wnulda't (• hoaa asata ha would Jaat atart out fr- "' '' •iMitt thoaa fkollaca at aow ^>a(Mi t* t«rw at tha faot that rMidy to do ^1« /plua tha fW^ tlut tfaaaa ftaallaga tliat ao a^l that ha mi* all alow la thSN()«rl4 vara raally vary jialafal and thai htf aaadad tha axparlaaoa th«t «h«M wara ^owa wpo who wara iatarastad 3 aarad ahoat what happwwd to hip. %dlla't cara howavar aad thought f smtwrt»X to ta alaaa. I palatad'that what hapiwiwd to hl» oTaatually < tha aoart'a daoialoa hat wa dlaauaaad tha altaraatlTta en wfeJ-'- '' dMlda. rUammnX ha rajaatad. Ihaa X broaeiwd tha poapibll a aaaa vorkar if ho aaratatttraaA how, ha waatai to know f« hi» 1* wm»U ha an ladatanlaata parlod. a» f laally daoidod that althov 41tti*t raalljr wa* thla tmt woald pnrfar to i bwa if it aaw to a ohrtaa hatwaaa pla9«a*at mA e»ias to a wmU ahaM colai ta '" '' ' Sieael Exliibit No. 2 SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 500 OSWALD, Lee Harvey - 3 - Case #26996 Bronx and quit going altogether. Lee was able to respond to expressions of understanding and sympathy for his lonely situation which I offered, although he denied that he really ever felt lonely. Questioning revealed that he feels almost as if there is a veil between him and other people through which they cannot reach him but he^ prefers this veil to remain intact. When,. I questioned whether it were painful or disturbing for him to fee today since in a sense I was tearing away the veil he let me know that it was not as bad as he might have emticipated. He was not too comfortable in talking with me but he was not as disturbed in talking about his feelings as he thought he might be. This gave an opening for me to inquire into his fantasy life and what I got was a complete rejection of any probing and a reminder that "this is my own business." I let him know that I respected this but there were some things I had to know. Supposed I asked him questions and if he wanted to he would answer. He agreed to this and actually answered every question that I asked. He acknowledged fantasies about being all powerful and being able to do anything that he wanted. When I asked this ever involved hurting or killing people, he said that it did sometimes but refused to elucidate on it. None of these fantasies incidentally ever involved his mother. He also acknowledged dream material which he said was entirely pleasant in nature and which was usixally a fulfilment of fantasies that he might have had when he was awake. He refused however to talk about these at all although he did mention that these dreams also sometimes contained violence. He denied any hallucinatory or delusional experiences whatsoever and denied any distorted body images. His developmental history was essentially negative except for a mastoid operation and a tonsilectomy when he was "J. He remembers being frightened but remenibers nothing else about the experience. vnien we talked about futiire planning for him Lee said that he wanted to return home and he was adamant in his feeling that if he were placed in any kind of a boarding school he would run away. He regards this as a loss of his freedom and privacy and confided that the worse thing about Youth House was the fact that he had to be with other boys all the time, was disturbed about disrobing in front of them, taking showers with them etc. He has been away to Camp a couple of times in life when he was a kid and heid enjoyed those experiences and mingled with other boys but it was different from the experience he had had here at Youth House. He doesn't fight with anyone here, he just detaches himself completely. He was willing to acknowledge with me that home offers him very little but he wants it this way. Actually if he could have his wish he would like to be out on his own and maybe join the service. He acknowledge«L the fact that in the service he would have to live very close to other people and obey orders and follow a routine which he finds extremely distastful but he said he would seal himeelf to that and make himself do it. In the meajitime if he had his way he woiild prefer to be on his own and he said that if he were placed in a school and ran away he wouldn't go home again he woiild just start out for himself. We talked about those feelings at some length in terms of the fact that no boy of 13 was ready to do this , pl\is the fact that these fee!l,ings that no one cared about him and that he was all alone in the world were really very painful and that maybe he needed the experience that there were grown ups who were interested in him and cared about what happened to him. He didn't care however and thought that he just preferred to be alone. I pointed that what happened to him eventijally was really the court's decision but we discussed the alternatives on which the court might decide. Placement he rejected. When I broached the possibility of talking with a case worker if he were returned home, he wanted to know for how long and I told him it would be aji indeterminate period. He finally decided that eG-thou^ he didn't really want this and would prefer to remain as solitary as he has always been if it came to a choice between placement and going to a case worker, he would chose going to a case worker. He also tho\xght th&t if it were an alternative SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 501 ttool. M vOuU as - pt|iMr*ud no ^oo ; '" ut of U." 3rt^ -d*©*!!* to et.t his dit (t IMI « Mill "MnI/ If ai*yti.ln( «9 Ilie iji»*rBctA«w. Br *ilft#iiU f«r;W/tt^£l.^^. *'«' «*^ ^ ?*"** Br «t tb« »««« tiae» **JM' • said she *iaB «l*««y» • »^ itU to • la«l - ? up by feer om»r tea dUtdYttiO'lfts* tlw f«th. r ra4*««l to M* »itfi li«iw«* ai«i o^M E SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 504 OSWALD, LEE HARVEY - 5 - C 26966 but she said that when she got here, she foiind an extremely cold reception.' Her da\ighter-in-law is only 17 and apparently went out of her way to let Mrs. 0. know that she could not settle with John emd herself permanently. Mrs. 0. said that she had had no such intention although she had i^ther expected her daiighter in law to put her up until she covLLd find a job and get an apartment. She said she was made so uncomfortable there however that she moved just as soon as she co\ald to an extremely inadequate one room basement apartment. The living conditions were extremely miser- able and she felt that Lee was becoming very depressed but she could not help herself. Just as soon as she was able and had found another job, she took a three room apartment in the Bronx and said that Lee seemed to perk up considerably after this. According to Mrs. 0. she had never had any difficiilty with Lee while they were living at Ft. Worth at all suid disclaimed any knowledge of the fact that he had played hookey there. She felt that if he had said this it was really only to rationalize his playing hookey up here. She told me that he had always been an extremely qiiiet boy as was John and she felt both of these boys were like her. Even as a little kid Lee had never mixed freely with other children and she told me she felt this was in response to her teaching. She had always been a working woman who didn't have to worry about his wandering off or associating with other children in their houses so she instructed him to stay within the yard and he euLways did so. If other kids came to play in his place it was all right but he seemed never to go to other boys. She said thatas a matter of fact when other boys did approach him to play he usual ly preferred to be by himself and she felt that this was in his nature and that one couldn't change people's natures very easily. She herself found nothing wrong with this and told me that Mr. Carro Lee's Probation Officer had remarked to her that the boy seemed to be completely without feeling and that he withdrew from others. She herself did not see anything strange about this and told me that she herself was not a very gregarious person either and had never felt the need to make friends. In response to questioning I learned from her that she had lost her husband when she was seven months pregnant with Lee. He died suddenly one morning at 6 A.M. of a heart attack. Near the end of the interview she confided to me in a burst of confidence that she had had a rupture with her husband's family at this time since when he died at 6 A.M. she wanted him buried the same day. Her thought had been for herself and the baby she was carrying since she felt that she could do her husband no good by having a %.ke and a funeral and she thought it would be just decent to get him out of the way as quickly as possible. His family had been compltely agast, said that they never saw smything as cold in their whole life and had not spoken to her from that day to this. She had to rely upon her neighbors help when Lee was bom and she has never had anything to do with her husband's family since that time. She justified herself at great length to me said that she did not feel it was cold but only sensible and that her husband when he used to joke with her had always said "Mag, if anything happens to me just throw some dirt in my face and forget about it" and she felt she had acted according to his instructions. When I offered that it must have been rather difficult for her to half to be both parents ajid bread earner at the same time, she told me very proudly that she had never found it so. She said she was always a very independent, self-reliant person who had never wanted ajiy help from anyone, had always had. "high fulutent" ideas, which she felt to a large measure she had accomplished, and she always was able to pull herself up by her own bootstraps. When I asked if hers had been a good marriage, she said yes and went on as if I hadn't said anything but questioning revealed that she had come from a family where her mother had died when she was only two years old. The father raised six children with the help of housekeepers and she said she was brought up in an extremely poor neighborhood in New Orleans where she was forced to mix with Negroes and other people but even though she played with them and made friends with them she alwayshad again "high fulutent" ideas and managed to make something of herself. Mrs. 0. said that after her husband died, she stayed at home for two years taking SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. 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WW tjnn«tia«:frore rr^^^Ttto biggest id^. h4«it»»- SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 506 OSWALD, LEE HARVEY - 6 - C 26966 care of Lee axid the other two children and living on insiirance he left. When this ran out and she foxmd she had to get a job, she placed John aind Robert in a Lutherin Home for about six years from what I could gather and she moved in with Lee into her sister's house. Her sister cared for Lee while Mrs. 0. went to work but when the sister began to object she had a large number of children herself, Mrs. 0. also placed Lee in a home until she felt that all the kids were old enough so that she could take them home and go to work too. I pressed for information at this point and from what I could gather Lee was not in the home for more than 3 or k months. Preceding his placement in the home however, there was a period when Mrs. 0. had moved out of her sister's house and taken a furnished room because she said she needed a clear mind to go to business and cotildn't be bothered with a child. Apparently she left Lee to her sister for about a year or more while she lived apart from him. When she finally reconstituted her family apparently she left the kids pretty much to their own devices since she was working all kinds of ea?aBy hours and often did not get home until late at night. She tells me that when she was working in the insurance business however, she only worked two or three hovirs a day andwas able to spend a good deal of time at home. Questioning revealed however, that all of her kids were extremely quiet, rather withdrawn infants who never made much demeinds on her and always played quietly by themselves. Of this she was -very proud. Lee was a full term normally delivered baby what was bottle fed and toilet trained about one year. He walked and talked normally, as she put it and she neverhad any difficulty in raising him but she said that he was always a very stoic child who for instance, when the dentist offered to fill one tooth woiild insist that he fill all four at once. She told me that the boy had once had a terrific infection on his ajikle which he didn't know anything about until she started bathing him and which the doctor had been veiy concerned about but Lee who was about five at this time had not even complained. When he was five he also vmderwent a mastoid operation but she said he was completely happy-go-lucky about it and it didn't seem to affect him at all- Mrs. 0. incidentally bathed all her children herself until the time they were 11 or 12 and then said in an embariassed maimer that at that age they got a little too old for her to look at. Mrs. 0. railed and railed against MC laws which she felt in a large measure were responsible for the way Lee acted. She said that when he first began to truant, the truant officer picked him up in a police car and took him back to school and she thou^t that was just atrocious. She felt that the boy had been given a criminal record for no good reason at all and told me that she felt that she had been allowed to handle things in her own way she felt she could have gotten around it. She said she had had a problem in truancy with John too and to a lesser extent with Robert and had been able to handle it with both these boys. When John was Ik emd began to truant Mrs. 0. told him that if he wants to be a bum that was all right with her so he went out and got a job and held it for about six months. At the end of that time he told her that he was going back to school and continued there ever since. Robert only played hookey for about fovir times and she was able to handle this by talking to him. Mrs. 0. was not aware of whether or not Texas had a law that kids londer 16 had to be in school but apparently they didn't bother John during the period he was out. She said she felt Lee could be stubborn and defiant just as she would be if someone kept stressing with him the way the truant officer had with Lee that he had to go to school because the NYC law said so. She said she was not aware at first the boy was truanting although he told her he didn't want to go to school, but he did \ised to go up every day and get dressed and get out and so she assumed he was there. After she found out he was truanting, she startedto talk with him made several visits to the echooletc, but apparently got no where. In the meantime he was truanting from November throu^ March and she warned him that they could iBiE' him and put him away if he didn't go to school but Lee did not believe her. She felt however, that the biggest mistake had been SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 507 Utlm-mm^ *fiE& ^nri «M»a««M ta% i*«s X tuwwi i tl «|lk tar"* um0 mt «>iiMfc t» vlOA tiM boy •U.4tar apt aMwivM «Mmv tays «d iM« waM to b« ii&tii •3«Mtai««ll» ftH «i«i M aw «iiHM aU «v IMS"** fe«U fto al^it «e« •ppurcMIr j|ir'«i»'pM»w«.*ri«i* •^ 1mm- iMM« lA tonw of m :xi«t.«iM«t bis * — tiM f Moum tiMft "" -- X h««Mtajr «Mi^»t ttaUk tlwt tb* - l^a „ , n> a u« at «}1 Iwt aiJUJly m « immmmifi^kim-- %m tnumj laMi«hSite. XlWMINMMttI .tWi» .%«M|t «l»lar~M» atMl*:! t0A li«r«««Mat iB i^%^' ^^^f^ f [ law* %• luwak „ ItoiK M '!• «tei iiM3)i kf ' Mewi^UiiiMl tar MMHat «>» Siege 1 ExJiibit No. 2 SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 508 OSWALD, LEE HARVEY - 7 - C26966 the way they approached the boy and in a way she agreed it had now gone so far that she didn't know if she could handle it or not. When I wondered what it was that she wanted, she felt she wanted to be able to raise her own child the way she saw fit. iShe agreed that truancy if carried to a certain extent covild be considered a problem. She was not so willing to consider it a problem that Lee did not make friends and associates but when I discussed with her a little the extent to which the boy had withdrawn aid. the fact he was really alone all day she agreed that there was something not quite right about this. She said she wouldn't be so concerned if he was in school all day emd associated with other boys and then wanted to be alone birt the fact that he was alone all day long and half the night too apparently since she didn't get home till late, didn't look so good to her. ilnow explained to her the purpose of Lee's being at Youth House in terms of a diagnostic study and the fact that while our psychiatrist here was free to make recommendations actually it was the court's decision. We now discussed together the two alternatives on which the Court might decide one being probation with psychotherapy and the other placement in a school. She listened extremely intentively and when I disciissed school placement with her seemed not to avert to the fact that if Lee were sent off to a school, it ml^t be good for him. The thing that made her exceedingly ajigry was that she felt if the boy were given another chance and sent home it should be what she called a real chance and should not involve having to report to a P.O. or "talk to a stranger" which was the way she flet about his going to a social worker. She was adamEnt however, in her feeling that she really did want him to have one more chance with the knowledge that if he played hookey for even one da^ he would have to be put away in a home. I had the feeling that the basis of this was a need to assert her own volition as it were against the authority represented by the court, rather than any real understanding of Lee's welfare or his needs. I honeslty don't think that she sees him as a person at all but simply as aji extension of her self. Interestingly enough by the way although Lee was a planned for baby because her husband, her self wanted a girl, I taJce it that she was rather iisappointed at having a third boy. I discussed with her what actually would change for Lee if he went home again and the truancy started. To her way of thinking she coiild not see the truancy as symptomatic of anything and apparently thinks of it as ein act of defiance which in a sense of course is really true but she doesn't mean this. I have some real question at this point about just how much Mrs. 0- could offer Lee since I feel that her own attitude about social worker's probation, etc. woxild inevitably commimicate itself to the boy and that if he started showing improvement in. therapy I have the feeling she is one of these mother's who woiild have to break it up. On the other hand Lee himself is so averse to placement at this time that I have some question too as to what wo\ild be accomplished by sending him away. He has withdrawn cranpletely here at Youth House. I have spent some time watching him with other boys and he doesn't pajrticipate or mingle in any way but keeps himself completely aloof. EVELYN STRICKMAN V30/53 sp SiEGEL Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 509 REPORT ON (FFICEP.'P WTF.S IW RKOARD?? TO THE PPESTDEOT'S MURDER R. M. SIMS -j{5629 and &, L, BOID - iJBLO On November 22, I963, at 9:00 >M, ve arrived for duty at City Hall and reported to Capt. Fritz in hia office. Capt, Fritz, E, L. Boyd, R. M. Sima, B. L. Senkol, and F. M, Turner discusood their asslgnnents for the time President Kennedy was to be in Dalles, Capt. Fritz told Sims and Boyd that they ware asaipnad vith him to vork the President's head table at the Trad© Kart. At lOiOO AM Capt. Fritz, Boyd, and Sims left the City Hall in Capt. Fritz' a city aquad car. Sima drovo to the Trade Fart and arrived there at lOilO AM. Ve parked our car on the eaat parking lot. Ve walked directly to the Trade Mart and went to the President's table. VTe net Mr. Dave Grant and Mr. Robert Stevart of the U, S. Secret Corvico, Wo discussed our duties and familiarized ourselves vith the area of the President's table. We dis- cussed tVie route of the Resident to his table and who woiJ.d be permitted in the roped off area around the President's table. We inspected the President' ei table and the roped off area. At 12i30 PM Capt. Fritz, along with Mr. Robert Stewart of the U, S, Secret Service, made the final inspection of the Presi- dent's table. At about 12iljO PK Chief M. V, Stevenson caroa over to tho west side of tho roped off aroa and called Capt, Fritz. He told Capt, Fritz that President Kennedy had boon involved in an accident at the triple underpass and was on his way to Parkland HoEpital. Ho advised us to go to Parkland. Capt, Fritz, Sims, and Boyd rushed out to their car, Capt. Fritz said the report of the President* a accident could bo a hoax, so Sims checked with the police dinpatchor by radio* The dispatcher told no the President had been shot. Slna drove Coda 3 to Parkland, arriving thera in laaa than 3 ninutea. 234 Sims Exhibit A 510 R. M. SIMS and E. L. BOYD - Page 2 (President's Murder) Chief Curry was out front of Parkland emergency entrance, and he told Capt, Trits to go to the scene of the shooting. V/e rushed back to our car and Sheriff Decker went i^ith us, Sims drove Coda 3 to the Texas Book Depository Building at Eln end Houston arid parked out i.Von«. ..w -.- — ^« ^.i.. v -- approximately 12:58 7K and saw that the building was surrounded by Police officers, so we rushed onicside. We got on the elevator with several other officors. Lt. Jcick ReviH and Dat. R. \J, Westphal are the only ones that we can reinomber vbo rode the elevator with us. We stopped on the second floor, oponod the elevator door, and saw officers there. We went on up to the third floor and got off the elevator, Westphal said he had a key to 30^. We stayed there about 30 seconds and saw several other officers there, so we got back on the elevator and went to the fourth floor and got off. There were several officers on this floor so we caught the freight elevator and went to the fifth floor. We mad© a hurried search along the front and west side windows and then -vent c;:. up to the sixth floor. Some officers stayed on the sixth .floor j^ end we want on up to the Goventh floor and started to search along the front vindows. About th-- tima someone yelled that sane empty hulls had been fov-'id on the sixth i'loor. Capt. Fritz, Sims, and Boyd went to tha sou'iheast \lndow on tlie sixth floor and saw three empty rifle hulls on the floor near the wincow. The empty hulls were found about 1:1^ PM, Deputy Sheriff Luke E, Mooney said ha .'ouiid them and left them lay as they wore. Wa stayed there with the empty hulls to preserve 'o^.o scene and a methodical search was started by other officers going from east to west. About ls20 K-^, Lt,- J, C, Day and Det, R, L, Studebaker arrived on the sixth floor, Capt. Fritz asked Lt, Day to take pictures of the hulls and tha Sims Exhibit A— Continued 511 R. M. SIKS AND E. L. BOYD - (President's Murder ) - Page 3 surrovmding area. About li2$ IM scmeone called for Capt. Fritz, and he loft Det. L. D, Montgomery and Karvin Johnson to stay with the hulls, Capt. Fritz^ Sims, and Boyd want over to near the stairway where one of the officers had called Capt. Fritz, Sosneone said the gun had been found. Capt. Fxltks walked between a stack of books and over soma books to where the gun was laying between some boxes and partially covered by sonie paper. The g\m was iibout 5 feet from the west wall and about 8 feet from the west stairway, Sims went back to where ^t. Day was and told him the gun had been found, Lt, Day or Dot. Studebaker took another picture of the hxills and taid they had already taken pictures of the scene, Sims picked up the empty hulls, and Lt. Day held an envelope open while Sims dropped them in the envelope, Lt. Day then walked over to where tho rifle h^^d bev>r. found. Det. Studebaker and Lt. Day took pictures of the rifle. Mr. Pinkston of t:e F. B. I. and a Secret Service agent were there at the time pictures were u^jing made. We don't Imow the Secret Service agent's name. Mr, Ellsworth and another office: from Alcohol Taz Department were* also there. Lt. Day then picked up the rifl« and dusted it for fingerprints. Soma man tr^n cailac Capt, Frtiz, and he walked over to whero the man was. This man ^ave Capt. Fritz the name of Lee Harvty Cwvcld and his home address in Irving, Texas, We had ;5ust heard that Officer J. D. Tippit had been shot and killed in Oak Cliff. Capt, Fritz, SimtJ, and Boyd then left the Texas Book Depositoiyand someone told Capt, Fritz that Sheriff Decker wanted to talk to him. Capt, Fritz went over to Sheriff Docker's office and stayed 10 or 15 minutes. Then Ca>-. Fritz, Sims, and Boyd left, and Sins drove Code 3 to City Hall. We arrived at Capt, Fritz' " office apprcodiaately 2:1^ PM. There were a lot of peoplt. ^'i the Homicide Sims Exhibit A— Continued 512 y Sims Exhibit A— Oontinued 513 R. M. SmS and Z. L. BOYD - (President's Murder) - Page h Bureau and Det. T. L, Baker told Capt, Fritz that the man vho shot Officer Tippit was in the interrogation room, Capt. Fritz then found out that this rum' 3 naira was Leo Harvey Oswald, the same name that he had received at the Toxas Book Depository from the men thers . At 2r20 TA Sims and Boyd took Oswald from the interrogation room and escorted him into Capt. Fritz's office. During the interrogation of Oswald, Mr. Jim Bookout and Mr. Hosty, F. B. I. agents, were in the office with Capt. Fritz, Sims and Boyd. There was also a Secret Service agent present and these F. B. I. and Secret Service agents took part in the interrogaticn of Oswald with Capt. Fritz, At 1^:05 ^ Sims, Boyd, and Det. M. G. Hall took Oswald down to the hold over in the Jail office for a show-up. Down in thiS hold over, Boyd searched Oswald and found five live rounds of ,38 calibre pistol shells in his left front pocket. Sims found a bus transfer clip in Oswald's shirt pocket, Oswald took his ring off and gave it to Sims, ".Je pu'i threo other msn in the show-up with Oswald. They ware as follcvos j^l Billy Purry, #2 Lee Harvey Oswald, #3 R« !•• Clark, and #li Don Atiles, Siiuo^ Kail, an. Boyd wer.i on the sho'.;-up stage with the men who were in the chow-up. The four man were handcuffec -cogether. After the ^ow-up was over, at li:20 PM, we took Oswald back to Cap^. Fritz's office where Capt. Fritz, F. B, I. Agents, and Secret Service Agents talked to Oswald so-^ Kora, At 6; 20 FM S ims, Boyd, and Hall -cook Oswald back to the show-up room ana '..jld a line-up with the same men as were in the first one. They were also nvmbored the same as the first. At 6:37 PM, we loJ:t the show-up rocsn and tcjlc Oswald back to Capt. Fritz's office. Shortly after- vards, Capt. Frit-, Justice of Peace David Johnston, and Assistant District Attorney, Bill Alexander, came to Capt, Fritz's office. Capt. Fritz signed Sims Exhibit A— Continued 514 Sims Exhibit A— Oontinued 515 R. M. SIMS and E. L. BOYD - (President's Murder). - Page 5 a murder complaint against Lee Harvey Oswald vhich was accepted by Assist- ant district Attorney, Bill Alexander. This was for the murder of Officer J. D. Tippit. At approximatQly 7:30 PM, Hall and Boyd were sitting in the office with Oswald and Mr, Clements of the F. B, I came in and interrogated Oswald. At 7:1;0 PM.,Hall, Sims, and Boyd took Oswald back to show-up room. This time there was also three other men in the show up. They were as follows: #1 Richard Walter Borchgardt, #2 Lee Harvey Oswald, B Ellis Carl BraswQll, #U Don Abies. After the show-up, at 7:5^ PM we took Oswald back to Capt. Fritz's office and Mr. Clements continued his interrogation of Oswald for about another half hour. At 8:55 PM Det. Johnny Hicks and R. L., Studebaker of the Crime Lab came to Capt. Fritz' s office. Hicks started finger printing Oswald, -ohen Sgt. Pete Barnes came in. Shortly afterward, Capt. George Dougl-ity -ame in and Suayed a fow minutes. After Hicks finishes Finger printing Oswald, he and Barnes.made paraffin casts of both hands and also the right side of his face. Det. Studebaker assisted Hicks and Baxnea H. M. Mooro, R. H. Sims, and E. L. Boyd were present most of the time whilen casts were being made. At approximately 11:30 PM Sims and Boya made out arrest sheets on Oswald and shortly afterward Chief Curry and Capt. Fritz came to Capt. Fritz's office and told us to take Oswald down out in' front of the stage at the show up room. Chief Curry gave us instructions not to let anyone touch Oswald, and if th^r attempted to do so, for us to take himt to Jail immediately. Capt. Fritz told us that he wanted all the officers in the Homicide Bureau to go down to the show-up room. After a short wait, ve took Oswald down to -the show-up room shortly after midni^t. The show- then took up room was full of news mon. "Ea kept him there about $ minutes him straight to the jail office at approximately 12:20 AM on November 23, Sims Exhibit A— Continued 516 R. M. SIMS and E. L, BOYD - (President's Murder) - Page 6 1963, Chief Lumpkin, Sims, Boyd, and Sgt, Warren took Oswald to fourth floor jail and tumad hiia ovor to the jailers at 12:23 AM, NOVEMBER 23, I963 On Noveitiber 23, I963, ve arrived for work at 9:30 AM. At 10:25 AM, Sims, Boyd, and Det. M. 0. Hall checked Lee Harv^ Oswald out of Jail and brought him to Capt. Fritz's office for questioning. Mr, Bookout of the F, B. I,, Mr, Robert Nash, U. S, Marshal, and Mr, Kelly of Secret Service wore in the office with Capt, Fritz at the time, ^ Boyd and Hall stayed in the office during the interrogation. After Capt. Fritz and the other officers finished their interrogation, Sims, Boyd, and Hall returned Oswald to Jail at 11:30 AM. Shortly afterwards, Sims, Boyd, Hall, and Det, C. N. Dhorlty went to 1026 North Beckley to recheck Oswald's room, Ve arrived at 11:^9 ^-i and left at 12:30 PJ'I. At approximately 6:00 PM Sims assisted M, G, Hall and Det. L. c. Graves in checking Oswald out of Jail and brought him to Cspt. Fritz's office, Sims didn't stay in the office during the interrogation. After the interrogation, Sims assisted Hall and Graves in returning Oswald to Jail at 7:15 PM, Sims Exhibit A— Oontinued 517 REPORT ON OFJxCER'S DUTIES IN REGARDS TO OSWAIJ)»S DEATH R. M. SmS - //629 I was hcae on a rosular off day November 2k, 1963. I vas watching T.V., and it was announced thot Loe Harvey Oswald had been shot. I called the office and asked Lt, Baker if I could be of any help. He said, "Tes, come on in". I arrived at the office at 12330 PM* 1 answered the phones and took an affidavit from George Senator, Jack Ruby's rooTOiato. About Ut30 PM, Lt, Wells asked me to go to the Jail and ask Ruby where his social security card was. Ruby had a visitor, CO I waited on the fifth floor. Jack Ruby aodl F. B, I, Agent Hall got off the alovator, and I asked Jack Ruby about his social security cord. He said ha didn't know where it was, Sims Exhibit A— Continued 518 Skelton Exhibit A 519 , DL 44-1639 "November 27, 1963 "Mr. J. E. Curry Chief ol Police "Subject: J&ck Ruby "Sir: ' -• "Oa Sunday November 24, 1963, I v&a assignod to down__stairs Jail Office by Lt, Wiggins, I had instructions to stay by the phone and to advise the dispatcher when Oswald had been loaded into armor car and was in route to County Jail. "I did not know Jack Ruby personally nor woulc^ I have known him if I had seen him, but I have heard his name before as owning a . night club. "I did not see the shooting, but I was looking out glass in door to see when he was loaded into armored car. There was a shot atid a scuffle and Lt. Wiggins said Oswald was shot and to. call a doctor. I then called dispatcher for a doctor. "I did not see Jack Ruby in the basement until after the shooting when dectives brought him into Jail Office under arrest "Respectfully submitted /s/"Willie B. Slack Willie B. Slack #992 . Patrolman Dallas Police Department" ^^^•^^ ,^^ ^^ Jx.No.51l6 SIACKjW.B. Depoation_ Dallas 3-31-6/; Slack Exhibit No. 5116 520 FD.302 (R.v. 3^.59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ^ C\\ 12-3-63 i^ -^'' ^< :::^ ^\ Patrolman WILLIE B. SLACK, Dallas Police- Dspartnant, ^ v^ '^ "^ '^ ' who resides at 5605 Sumatra Street, Dallas, was intervievjed at his residence. SLACK was advised that he v;as not required to malce a statement; that any statement he did raalce eight be used against him in a court of law and that he had the right > /"hi J, to legal counsel prior to making a statement. Sj j^ Patrolman SLACK advised that on November 24, 1963 he was assigned to the City Jail Office from the hours of S 6:30 a.m. until 2:30 p.m. This assignment was given him by J, Lieutenant WOODROW WIGGINS, Service Division. s. r Patrolman SLACK advised that he does not know JACK RUBY, has never met him and has never talked with him. Ke added J\] that he has never been emp.loyed by RUBY at any of his establish- \N ments and knows of no other police officer who has been so employed. Patrolman SLACK stated that his duty on November 24, 1963, was to advise the dispatcher when LEE HARVEY OSWALD wa placed in an armored car and removed from the basement area of City Hall to be taken to the County Jail. He stated that during the time hie was on duty there, no one but authorized personnel „was admitted in the Jail Office. He stated that at about MVll:25 to 11:30 a.m. OSWALD was brought down to the Jail Office Why elevator and there were two detectives on either side of them. They passed through the office and through the door leading to the corridors, which corridors lead to the ramp where cars entered and left the' basement area. He stated that he could see fairly well this area through a 12x12 inch glass in the corridor door. He stated that he followed with his eyes OSWALD and the detectives but did not have a clear view of individuals beyond OSWALD, inasmuch as the detectives behind him cut off his field of vision. He stated he did not notice RUBY walk out and up to OSWAEiJ^and did not see the shot which was fired at OSWALD, although he heard same. He stated that immediately following the shot, 12-2-63 Dallas, Texas DL 44-1639 our" Fiio # EDKOND C. HARDIN & PAUL L. by Spociol Aoor.t ^^OTT - md ^2-3-63 o-oto dictated SLACK, W.B. Deposiion Dallas 3-31-64 Slack Exhibit No. 5117 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 35 521 2 DL 44-1639 there was a great amount of confusion and from this time on he was concerning with keeping unauthorized personnel out of the Jail Office. Patrolman SLACK stated that other than the men who vjalked through the office with OSWALD he cannot identify any other individuals, police officers or newsmen who were present in the basement area at the time of the shooting. He stated that he also has no idea concerning how many individuals v;ere in the area, but he would estimate that the number would exceed 35 or 40 individuals. Patrolman SLACK stated that he had cleared his of£ of all individuals between 7:30 and 8:00 a.m. on that.. date and that guards were placed at the office door and no one was allowed to enter and no one used the elevator, with the exception of OSWALD and the accompaning police officers up until the time of the shooting. He stated he does not know of any unauthorized person or persons who may have been admitted to the basement are^ prior to the shooting. Slack Exhibit No. 5117 —Continued 522 FD-302 (Re». 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION i 1 1 /gq /^3 Lt. VERNON S. SMART, Auto Theft Division. Dallas Police Dep-rtment, advised thac he was instructed 'oy Assistant Chief JIM W. STET/ENSON of the Dallss Police Department on IJovember 2U, 19o3, to take all available detectives in SI>'ABT's Division and go to the bRserae'nt'of the Dfdlas Police Station to assist in handling the transfer of LEE nPRYFTi OSWALD to the Dalles County Jail. Lt. wSMAKT stated that he did not recall the exact time that he arrived in the basement of the Police Station but estimated that it was approximately fifteen minute.'^ before OSWALD vas shot. Lt. SM,iRT stated that upon arrival in the basement he observed Captain JOIffiS of the Forgery Detail, Dallas Police Department, vho was han'.'-iing the placing of members of the press md photographs at one end of the building. Lt. SMAi?T stated that Assistant Chief CHASLES EATCHELOR and Ic. SMART went to the ramp of the Dallas Police Station in the basement where the- armored truck was being backed in to take the prisoner, OSWALD, to the County Jail. Lt. SMART stated he noticed the truck was having difficulty backing do'.ra the rcmp due to the height of the truck and the fact that the truck was alr.o5t too \ride to coir.e dovm the ramp. He stated that the truck was spproximEtely ten feet co-.m the ramp when he and the Assistant Chief BATCHELOR decided with the driver thai: he could go no further. Lt. SMART stated that the newspaper photographers and other me-jibers of the various new? media were lined up to the north and east side of the drivev/tuy in the basement of the building. When ^-he Deputy Sheriff who was with the nritored truck opened the door a Nehi soft drink bo'ctle fell out of the truck and broke. SMART stated that he and BATCHELOR then searched the armored truck conrplfttely and found a coke bottle which they threw at-oy end then planned -.he f.eating arrangement in the truck. Ke stated they decided t:he side they would put OSV.'ALD in, p^/\ he observed that there wbs plenty of room for approx-'--',r,ely siK to eight people to stay in the back of the armored t :. SMi'RT stated. that_ there wj^re numero us lights from . . VI camer as in the bu ilding ,meking-i,t_difficult to see. He'then stated that he and BATCHELOR went to each side of thVtruck' and observed that a uniformed officer was on the' inside of the building .d one on the cv.;.r.ide of the building, and after checking the sides of the truck 1: .';ee that the officers wore ttiere he turned around and heard yorv/ithing ^fhich soundivi to him like f firecracker going off. Lt. SI-iART stated hs ran do-^-n the remp from where the armored "Ex. No. 5021 SMART, Vernon S. Deposition Dallas 3-25-64 " on 11/2^/63 „t D^Uas, Texas P;,^ ^^ PL UU-1503 by Special Aj.ntc; .T.'.yr?, w. ?00TOnT7r H^ .TO.gT^^tt m. ?^r?S/nv Date dictated 1 1 7'^ 'o^ ^^ ^" This document contains neither i xero nondatlons nor conclusions o( the FBI. It »» xero""*'""'' *' "** ''^' """' '* ^o*""®** '° • your oijeney; It and Its contonts '^°'"' it to be distributed outside your aoeney. cop» Smart Exhibit No. 5021 523 . j 2 truck was parked, observed a scuffle and -tried to oe of essistance. Lt. ST'IAET ? tat(;d that at the tir>e the sound vent off yhich._5P.uaded like a firecracker he h imself^ >?o"? n6t~Rvc!i'e'that OSWAI-D'was heing brought, out l£f3h2. ^^^"^"^ • ^® stated that" when he got to the -scuffle he noted thet &everar~6Tflcers hed JACK RUBY dovn on the bEser:ent floor and vere hand- cuffing him and did not need his iinicedi ate 2 c si stance. The offic-.r-s got RUBY up on his feet and SMART assisted in getting him inmiediately to the elevator in the Jail to be taken upstairs to another floor. He sta+9u vhat he did not know JACK RUBY person Uy and asked Detective W. «. "i>LACKI3" KAPRISON of the Juvenile B\jreeu who the man w?s involved in the scxiffle and vas told by HARRISON thet it was JACK P". JJ Lt. SM/J^T stated further that he did not recall 3';eing RUBY in h'i I^allns County City Hall anytime between Friday, lyovemVer 22 to the time of the shooting of OSWALD on Sunday, IJovenber 2k, 1963. Lt. SMART stated that HARRISON told him thet he saw RUBY AS RUBY V7CS pulling the gun from his pocket. Lt. SK^ART further stated he understood from some of the other officer? the name; of which he did not recall th^^t Detective COf-lBEST was supposed to have yelleu, "JACK, don't do it" prior to the shooting. Lt. SViABT stated that Jf-C£ RUBY mujrt have told Ecmicile | Captain VJII^. FRITZ of the Dallas Police Dep-rtnent th=t RU3Y'.- 190O ^d;— obile was parked at the AlTLrlgbt Parking Lot at the corner of Main and Pesrl Streets across from the Western Union Building near tV. Dallas Police Station as he, SWKT. was instructed by Assistant Chief STEV2NS0N to go to the lot and search RUBY's car, get the money out of it, put the car in the p^ijnd and return the money in the car to -uhe Dallas Police. Station. Lt. CMART also i^^lated that h<=' wa:'. p.l.^o instructed to take a dog from the car and h--ive it placed in an nniml Ehslter. Lt. S.^L»J\T check-:d hi? records and stated that RUBY '3 car is a 1950 Oldsmobile, two door, white in color, bearing 196? Texas License. rD-678. SMART stated he found the car unlocked but did net find a hey in the car. He stated that he found RUBY' 3 wallet in the g.'ove ccmpf rt-ment in the car with I identification cards and a key that fit the truaK of the car. He I stated that he searched the trunk of the car and found the keys to the | ignition in the trunk and discovered approximately $873-50 in a big grocery bag in the trunk of the car. He stated that the money was in several denominations, approximately $73-50 in silver, and he recalled about.,:^400^00wasin__^^X0 bills. He stated that also in the car wej'e a number of bo'Scesof^courtesy cards or passes to the Carousel Club operated by RUBY. He stated that he also observed but did not remove from the car a large box of 8 x 10 photographs of neai-ly nude £;.rlo, end he estimated that there were apprc:d.m?tely 200 pictures in this box. He stated that these photographs showed these girls in various stages of undress. SMART added thet there were three news- papers lying on the front reat of the car all from Dallas and having articles in them _^-^;^cernlng the assassination of President KENNEDY. SMART stated tha^"°' took the money, the papers 8E?."?illet and other -3 7 Smart Exhibit No. 5021 — Continued DL l;l;-l603/cv property which he removeo urj3. turned it over tr> Captain WILL FRITZ. He stated that the car svlll if as far as he know3 at th? Dalles Police Department Auto Found where it ha& Pound Ticket No. 102653- Smart Exhibit No. 5021 —Continued 524 tigi ^,.^_^ i f -J -- — -- I— a. i—.--^ Smart Exhibit No. 5022 525 / <- ?«P°^^°"- ^ £^.No.5023 SMART ,V.S. Dallas 3-25-6^ •MART Exhibit No. 5023 526 " '' to:NoVi.uat^ '' ' ' 3A^ v J^: "- \epc^5? '' °' Dallas 3-25-64 pL 44-1639 - ^ "Novenber 27, 1963 Mr. J. E, Curry Chief 6t Police "Sir: 'I should like to submit the following report regarding the incident occurring in the basement on November 24 » 1963. V ' was on the ramp when the truck was backed in to take I the prisoner to t^e County .Ml. I was accompanied by ::hief Batchelor. The Deputy Sheriff opened the rear doors !>f the truck and > Nehi bottle fell out and broke. Chief 3atchelor and I searched the truck completely, found one oke bottle, and planned seating arrangement in the truck. We had Just finished and I was still facing the truck and >utside to see if all officers were in their place when heard one shot. Immediately I looked around and saw scuffle. I was not aware that the prisoner was being wrought out at that time, I immediately ran down to try to be of assistance. Several officers had Ruby down and were handcuffing him. ''Respectfully submitted, /s/"V. S. Smart V. S. Smart ' Lieutenant Criminal Investigation Division" :i - -2. r- 4 ^ I Smakt Exhibit No. 5024 527 ic^^ Name worked under \ u» t I . . ^ LOCAL MAILIN ADDI N- D t-^^-i <^..,. „ ,.v. DATC OK mi .uJc^^rAJL rtir7W*H*>j*#f^J seeking or receiving benefits under any other State or I rity (OASIi law" Q Yeo' m.No lU njfused any job ofTered you since you bpcame unempli " Yes* ^I4o (arming; or attending school, or in business for yourse'1 a commission basis" . Yes* [3--JCo I able to work and available for work in the 7 days Immediately before the date of this claim? ^^ei 21. I hereby register for work and claim unemployment insurance benefits, I am unemployed, able to work, and available for except as slated hereon. I have been informed that I must report a-^ directed to the State Employment Service office to con my registration for work and my claim for benefits. I understand that the law prescribes penalties for false for the purpose of obtaining benefits not due or of increasing benefit.'^, I hereby certify that the staiem^nls made with thin claim are true to the best of my knowledge and belief. -^ y ^( I NOTE; T>Q jdc^L^ •Ay> y^ ant: Do not writ^ below this Dependents' Allowance Data (Ctieck 1 1 and Handbook) b. Is this address based on form SF-8 Tea No c- Was form SF-8 issued' Yes D No d. Did the claimant have covered employment in (agent state) after federal service? D ?« G No 2) REMARKS Enter below any additional pertinent informaUon such as (a) back-dating requested; (b) other social security count nuintKTs used; 'O badge or clockynumber; (d> the employer's plaat number; ie) the name of the department; if) the na; M the ship, If maritime employment / / 1 / / \ U^5'^^-^J^9^ t this claimant and certify that -n he has ^^eglaVrattoO requiremep the mobile unit of WBAP-TV on November 24, 1963, at Dallas, C 'r ^ >. Texas. SMITH said the crew set up between 7:30 and 8:00 ^ Q -^ AM, on November 24th. He said that WARREN RITCHKY was the cameraman located on top of the truck and that I. N. /V ^ WALKER was the remote audioman located in the truck with him, SMITH. *^ , SMITH said that a man he now knows as JACK RUBY ^ *^ \J^4; ^ ^ or JACK RUBENSTEIN was first noticed by him at about 8:00 AM, on November 24, 1963, at which time this person ^ was standing on the sidewalk on the Commerce Street side of the Dallas Police Department. SMITH explained that he, SMITH, was in and out of the mobile unit several times and that the mobile unit was parked facing east on Commerce about twenty-five feet from the ramp leading to the basement of the Dallas Police Department. SMITH said at the time he observed RUBY he did not pay particular attention to this person and, actually, had the impression of someone "just killing time" and very nonchalant. SMITH said that, as best he can recall, about ten minutes after first seeing RUBY on the sidewalk on the side of the Police Department, or about 8:10 AM, this person walked over to the truck and asked, "Have they brought OSWALD down yet?" SMITH said he answered, "No." SMITH said after RUBY asked this question he walked away from the truck. SMITH said RUBY did not seem interested other than just "passing time." SMITH said he recalls RUBY had on a grey hat and a greyish topcoat. SMITH said he recalls he next saw RUBY at about 10:00 AM, at which time he saw him on the sidewalk on the Commerce Street side of the Police Department next to the ramp leading to the basement of the Police Department. SMITH said he never saw RUBY tal)d.ng rQ_nnyon pi^ ar anv t-im p ant] hp Jx. No. 5317 SMITH,John A. A-15-6A Dallas A-15-64 on 12/4/63 „t Fort Worth. Texas FiU § ul, ft^-ibH^ by Sp«ciol Ao.,> 8 EARLE a\LEY & R OBLEY D. MADLAND Dot. N HA32Y. He was advised that hri did not Ivive to make a state- \ ^ cent, that any statement he did make cculd be used against him ln~o^\J a court of law and that he had the right to consult an attorney r* ^,^ prior to nuiking any statement. In reference to Reserve Police n- - Officer HAROLD B. HOLLY, JR. 's, statement that' another reserve J , officer had told him ths-t he had seen R'cBY come down the ramp • j. ^ in the basement, he furnished the folloxi7iQg information: ^ V SGLOJXLON displayed 19 photographs of reserve officers "^ r v who vere stationed at Parkland HosfJltal. From these choto- y t graphs , HOLLY picked out an individjial who resembled the )" ^ • individual that made the statement to him regarding RUBY's being/' vr in the basement. SOLOMON, upon viewing the photograph picked out by HOLLY, made a statement to the effect, "Well, he was T "^ "^ there^' or something similar to that. The officer's picture V-r^' that HOLLY picked out was that of W. J. KEiMA.N whom SOLC^AN io >>, <- advised vaas assigned to traffic control at Earry Eines 1 7 <^ Boulevard at the entrance to Parkland Hospital. SOLOMON was 'X^-^ told tb^t NEWMAN was interviexv'ed by Lieutenant JACK REVILL and \ Lieutenant C. C. WALLACE, both of the Special Services Bureau. A copy of these two officers" interview with NEWMAN Is as follows: • "Decem|>er 1, 1963 -r "Mr. J. E. Curry • . v;^ Chief of Police "Sir: v.>^ Re: Interview of Reserve Officer, Patrolman William J. Newman, 317 "On December 1, 1963 Reserve Officer, Patrolman William J. Newman was interviewed by the undersigned officers as to any information he might have concerning the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald which was not covered rag:--iT«'i'i^!"r.'tiW,' "Ex. No. 5106-/. SOLCMAN,J.M. Deposition Dallas 3-26-6A on 12/9/63 at P^ l l^, fi , T?-y>^ff Filo # PL AA.lfi^Q KENNErd P. HUGHES & by SpocicI Agont s EDWARD J. I^EY/csh p^,, „ , 12/9/63 This documani contains neither raconmeodatlons nor ooncluston* o( thf FBI. It U the properly o< the TBI and 1« loaned to your agency; it and its eooieale are not te be dUtributed eutalde your aqeooy. Solomon Exhibit No. 5106 532 DL 44-1639' "in his original report dated Noveiuber 26, 1963. "Ne\>7manstated, after reading his original report, that ha recalled observing an unknoi^m white male run dov/n the Main Street ramp into t^e basement of the City Hall, approxim^ately one minute prior to the shooting of Oswald. This unknown male, disappeared into the group of nex^smen and poxice officers and was not observed by Newman again. "Patrolman Newman states that he observed this individual just prior to someone in the crowd announcing, "Here he comes.'" Less than a minute lapsed from this until the shooting of Oswald. Newman states that he did not know Jack Ruby. "At this time Patrolman Newman has not been contacted by any federal agency. "Respectfully submitted. "/s/ Jack Revill "Jack Revill, Lieutenant "Special Service Bureau 7s/ C. C. Wallace "C.C. Wallace, Lieutenant "Special Service Bureau" ^. c ^ ^r' Solomon Exhibit No. 5106— Continued 533 THE DALLAS POLICE RESERVE BATTALION The Dallas Police Reserve Battalion is an Organization sponsored by the Dallas Police Department. The first class began in February 1953i and since then sixteen classes of Reserve Recruits have received instruc- tions at the Police Academy. As of November 1962 there are 3O3 Reserve Officers who are outfitted with uniforms. Nineteen former Reserve Offi- cers have joined the regular department and many have become members of V Police Departments in other cities of Dallas County. PRIMARY FUNCTION of the Dallas Police Reserves is to augment and re- v^^ inforce the Regular Police during any period of disaster or catastrophe. ,^ .r Reserves also assist the Department during special events that cause a nJ need for additional manpower. ? "^ WHO MAY BECOME A MEMBER - This is strictly a volunteer organization fl \' of civic-minded citizens who are interested in aiding law enforcement \^ 'iT- and law enforcement officers. Applications are accepted through the rec- ^ V^ C* ommendation of Regular Police Officers or Reserve Officers, These are S^^ the minimum standards: ' ^ ' . . \'-: r^ 1. Minimum age, 21 years. if. High School or equivalent. /^ ^ 2. No physical defects or 5, No arrest of any kind. ^ i f handicaps that would pre- 6 • Not a habitual traffic violator '^J "? vent vigorous activity ron- 7.. A citizen of good reputation in - "^'y tinuously under adverse his community and business. conditions. 8. No characteristics or abnormali- X\^i>i^ V 3. Not a member of any other ties that would be noticeable organization that is sub- when wearing a uniform. ject to call in emergencies. -^ Applicants must be of sound body and mind, of good reputation and moral character, and emotionally stable with a disposition suitable for a police officer. He will be fingerprinted and checked with the FBI, the Texas Department of Public Safety, the Dallas County Sheriff's Office, and the Dallas Police Department. Also, a check is made on his credit and references, employers and associates. During the training he is interviewed by the Reserve Staff Officers. WHAT THE POLICE RESERVE OFFICER CAN DO 1. Help your Police Department by being alert; observing illegal activities and making the information known to the proper f ^ authorities, ^- 2. Help the public; rendering assistance to those in need of help ^ or in distress; directing them to the proper authorities. ("p 3. Assist the police in handling and controlling crowds at fires, parades and special events. A-. Cooperating with Reserve Supervisors in routine assignments and special training that is offered from time to time. 5. Act as an officer ONLY under the supervision of a regular officer. He is not permitted to act as an officer at any OVER _Ex.No.5107- SOLOMAN,J.M. Deposition Dallas 3-26-6/; Solomon Exhibit No. 5107 534 ^MAT THE POLICE RESERVE OFFICER CAN NOT DO 1. He does not enforce any laws except when asked to assist a regular Dallas policeman. His powers of arrest are the same as of any citizen. 2, He is not permitted to wear or carry his badge except when in full uniform. He does not wear the Reserve uniform except when authorized. 3. He does not apprehend traffic violators, k. He does not work in the Reserve uniform as a Special Officer for pay, 5. He is not permitted to have red lights or siren on his personal car or use any sign or decal on his car that identifies him with any Police Agency, 6. He is not permitted to have a radio transmitter on the police frequency, 7. He is not permitted to carry sidearms. In uniform he is armed with the police billy club, TRAINING - The Police Reserve Training School is located at the Dallas Police Academy. If applicant is accepted he is enrolled in the 72-Hour course which is in session one night each week from 7:30 to. 9:^5 P. M. Regular departmental instructors teach the following subjects: Fundamentals of Criminal Law Standard and Advanced First Aid Laws of Search and Seizure Civil Defense Organization Laws of Arrest Police Communications Police Policies and Procedures Police Code of Conduct Defensive Tactics Traffic Control The Reserve Recruit is furnished a notebook and makes notes and out- lines of the various subjects. He keeps this book as his reference in the future. At graduation he receives a 9 X 12 engraved Certificate and the Police Reserve I, D, Card, He is assigned to a Group that is expected to participate in observation duty one night per month. All activity after graduation is considered advanced training in the field. This activity includes observation duty - in squad cars, in the Dispatcher's Office, the City Jail, and with Traffic Officers, He also assists Officers at Special Events such as parades, football traffic, the State Fair, etc. The Reserve Officer must furnish his own uniform equipment and insur- ance, which will amount to about ^'f5.00. The I. D. Card, badge, cap wreath, and shoulder patch will remain the property of the City ofDallas. A Reserve Officer must conduct himself as an Officer and a gentleman at all times, on and off duty. He is part of the Dallas Police Department and his actions will reflect on the whole Department, A Reserve Officer must keep his Supervisors and the Reserve Coordinator informed of his correct address and phone number at all times. A Reserve Officer receives no pay and very little thanks, compliments or credit. He IS expected to participate under the worst conditions and the most incon- venient times. His reward is the satisfaction of contributing his services to his community and having a part in making it a better place to live. Applications are not solicited but may- be obtained from the Reserve Coordinator when recommended by a Regular or Reserve Officer, DPR DEPENDABLE - PROFICIENT - READY ' Solomon Exhibit No. 5107 — Continued 535 /ooy UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE TREASURY DEPARTMENT nmlsBlor^ ri-ld (Dallac) Dallas, Tsr.as CO-2-3)j,03Q TYPE Or CASE „ TITLE OR CATTION yrctsotlva Hossarch "6ontinuod 'Jssassination of Presldant Kanr.ody INVESTIGATION MADE AT PERIOD covEREDvack Lson Ruby - slayar of Lo Dallas, iQXas 11-2U-63 Creald, cliarjjad with ETurdor of Frosidaat ' INVESTIGATiON MADE BY Kennedy SMC Forrast V. Jack rtub/ quaativfiSd by fAIG Forrast V. ?oivels shortly oTtor '.xlsj saot Leci Harvey Otwald in bacj/i-'n*. or uclice titation, Dallas, Texas, about 11:20 A.i:., liov. 21;, 1963. DZTAII.? OF I.r/.-rTIOATICN "*• Cn the roorninc of IJovembsr 2U, 1963, Inspector Ton Kslloy and I i.-cro in tha offica of Ascistaut Cliicf of Police Charles Eatchalor on tho third floor cf tho City Hall, Dallas, TeivXio, shoi'tly aitor 11 A.!:, iva cbcarvod tho cro;;d acrcT ;:,ho streat cn Ccr-.;arca Street south of tha City Hall. ror*3 t;;2r;ty or thli' ty ri..-t33 lator vn haard that Laa Harvay Cr"«ald had b^sn shot by Jack P.uhy, ni:.'.. - cli-j ^-oara- tor. Irirpocbor Kalley and I -..-ont to tha bac-:r;^-at of tha city hall '.;'....ra wo hjard that 0:.;,;.j.d had boon chot and I obcar'/ad Oswald ontha floor of tho ;.:11 offica and Ci^r^ono app3arc!d to ba adrinictarinfi artificial respiration. I -"..-n ::r.t to a •.. naarby phona and callad Deputy Chief Paul Pa&omi in JaEhinctoa and iniorr.o-i hin ia re to tha abo^^j. I than VJont to offico of Capt. v;ill Frita, Honicido Bureau, but found th-t hs i.'"3 tioj thcra. I rada inqulrioc as to vjhoroaboute of Jack Ruby and icas inior;.::d L.i,, "lad baun taken to tho city jail. ;".:. I then want to tha jail alovator and a;'^--^- :-ntifying aysalf was takon to tha fifth floor of the Jail ana to a cell . -.ja-i'i -J i^by waa ctandiiig with two uniforised ofricorc, ona on aach cida of hin. -ck r>j*.y tiJy had on his shorts as his clothas had ar^parautly baon taken froia hin, I idontifiod rys^lf to Ruby and inforncd hirn that I would Ilk'-* to ask hin coi,-o qu'3S- ^li.n-. Ha wanted to know if it was for newspapers or ragacincs and I told Iiiia it T-.'as not. Et) oaancd to hasitate and I told iitia tlmt I hjid eaon Ron'jct Joo (riabin OoldEtola, a wall knc\;ald) ht stated that ha urually caripied a gun as he often cairiad larga arxjunt of Eoaay taken in his bucinass. In ancnar to quastions coiicernins liis parants, ha stated that his fathar is Josoph Ilubonstain, bom in r.Uf.sia and that liis iothar is dccjasod and tlvit sha was bora in Poland, He stated tl'at bis civil attorney is Stanley Kaufman. Ruby was asked the spaoific question as to whathar or not anyona also was involved in this case and ha statad that there was not and that ha actad alona and that ha had not known f-'swald befora. Ruby stated that he had vaxy high regard for tha Dallas Police Donarlrr.ant and that thay all knew hiw (or ecma similar roniark). Thera ware soma dot actives landing in back of laa whan I was quastioaiag Ruby. I do not recall that I askod him how ha pot down in tha bajomant uhare he shot Ocivald. That quostion rr.y have bean askod by one of tha detoctivas and ho cay hava stated that ha caira dovn tha rcrp. This I do not recall for sure as my nain intoroot at tho tlnvj was to gat to Ruby as soon as possible for tha puipose of datenainlng.if ha was involved with others and if ha knew or had oi^y comuction with Oswald. Later on, at about 3tl5 %, on Nov. 2h, i>u3, I was in Capt., Frits 's office whara Ruby was being questioned by Capt. Fritz at which tina, in anE".:er to ques- tions, ho stated ha night get attonioys Tom Howard, Fred Brunar, Stanley Kaufnan, civil ettomoy, Jim Arrxton or C, A, Droby to reprosant biB| that ha bad his .iccis \ r Sorrels Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI- 537 CO-2-3U,030 Pago 3. legally changed in Dallas from Rubcnstoin to Rubyj that th9 revolver (Colt 2 Inch barrel, .38 Cal,, serial i/Zfhh-W) had been purchasod by boa from Ray on Slncl'ston (Ray's Hardwara i Pportlng Ooods, 730 Singleton, Dallas, Tt-yjic) abo\it three years ago. (IK/TE: the above described revolver ie e<3uippGd with c. hrjnnflr guard). He stated that his rooin-inate is George Senator. Ila stated that he l^ad ccme Into tha basement of the police station irom th3 tain Street rrjspj thnt he felt that Oswald vao a "r^d" aai that ha was alonsj that hj saw him (Oevald) In show-tip roon and that be knew who ha vas going for. TtSby stated that ha didn't wont to be a jaartyr and that it vas a build-up ef grlo-.TJin. (Ruby told no whan I talked to him in the jail cell thit h3 had been :p'levlJij3 ever since the Precldont bad been shot). Ea statad thit ho had olose'i both of his clubs, the Vo^as at 3508 Oak iawn and the Carouoal at 1312i- CoiDorce Stjreetj that he had never c^tn taald baforaj that he, Ruby, hr.d at one tiJM beain in the mail order buuinoes, that ha had been a labor organiser in Ohlcagoi that he has a fondneos for the polica dopartccnt and that V)h3n , officsr nick had gotten killed eorotlme ago that ha grieved about itj ti-at Sattrrday night he h-nd driven around and that yacpla wore in clubs laughing and no one soemod to bo In mourning; that ha caw irj.o£;ios of iTacidjnt ilannedy en TV and that he has seen President Kennsdy's brother Eobby on rVj that he folt that all this had created a nonent of insanity} that ha had road about the letter corraone cant to "aittle Carolyn "| that ha knows tha Polica Dopartment is wonfleii\il and that his heart is vith the Police Doparticont and that ha had hopes thnt if ever there vaa an opportunity for participation in polica battle that ho eoiJ.d be a pert of it idth thaa. Riiby further stated that his rrothar and dad were sepai-atad for 25 yaarsj that ha oyas "TJncle Prai" a big piece of money (Incons tax)i that ho loves the city (Dallas) j that his slotor was operated on recently and cha was hysterical about the Presldont being kUledj that he went to the S^magogua Friday night (Itov. 22nd) J that he want over wh'^ro the wreaths wore whara Preeidant was shotj and that he wants C<^aln Frlta to not hate him. Ha further stated that in Chicago when ha was with tha union that one of hie dear friends was killild and that hslhad coma to place where it happanadj that Leon Cook was tha wan) that ho, Ruly, was so upset about this that his Bxsther told hirs to loavo| that Ban nimad Jkirtin is one that killed Cook and that Martin was political and had affiliations and got cut of it. When questioned as to what union ho. Ruby, was with ha stated that it was the Scrap Iron & Junk Dealers Association. Jluby stated that his politics are Democratic but that ha votes for the nan. He stated that ha has brothers Saiouel Hui";', who servlcBs washaterias in Dallas, Earl Ruby, who operates a cleaning plant in Detroit, Hlchigan, and Hyman Rubsnstein, a ealesmn, in Chicago. Ruby stated that ha would not think of committing a foloryi that he has a high regard for the police and that he had called Detective Sims and wanted to bring them sandwiches as he knew they were having a tough time but was inforrad that thoy were all right and didn't need then; that he was tiying to locate cose of the 77 people to give thsm to and that was when he went to the show-up rooa and thnt when he want there he saw Oswald end that was first tico ho had evor seen anyone like that) that there was no cno else but hln (Ruby) involved In this case. He refused to oaswer cono of the queetiona asked hin by Capt. Fritz aal at one tine askad Capt* Frlta if t» didn't tblnlc ha (Siiby) would naka a good actor. C0-2-3li,030 Page h. Ruby stated that after his fViond Leon Cook was killed that ha took Cook's middla naioe "Leon" for his own middle name. V.lien Ruby wai" cuostioned by ma in the jail coll ha appeared to be sonmihat emotionally upset but gave pronpt anci.'ors to the quostionD askod him. Ha soomed more conpocod whon ha was quaotionod in Captain Fritz's office and gave quick ancvors to quaations put to him. In response to soma quastione ha would very quickly reply "I will not answer that". — ——— rasposmoH ^ This caea remains pending in tha Dallas District. Sorrels Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 538 'C.U^^^' n ^ >7^ /i!^^^. / ^ , I ^c:'-^ T ,/ ^^"<—/- ' f^ -' ^. ^/l^-ty^^ ;.^r...-^',-«>i>i>i>^^t»4^«»4» i» ' ^* - *i - ^i' «»-V-'«r ^:^-.'^K^. ^< yfZ^^^J^ , ^• ^ /^-^^ /^'"^-^-''^ z;^ :z_ -T^ tl^^c^- S°"^lls Exhibit No. 2-C ~"Sc ^^ C-^Cl^ Sorrels Exhibit No. 2-C 541 .-=i-r^ ^^. - i3^~<;.-- =4 ^'Yr:-^^-^ ^v ^ ^/<'^^d:^'M-^-—^7 L--< ^, .^^ ^^. /7'< ^ ..Z^' ;M^ .'^x SZ^-~~-/' Sorrells Exhibit No. 2-D V. ^- ^ Sorrels Exhibit No. 2-D 542 ^^^ /.-'- iL M-A^:^^ -.i'-ri ~-.^^-f .-^.JP £^:^A -<^.-- £^^ n .^'' Sorrells Exhibit No. 3-; SOBBBXS Exhibit No. 3-A 543 (^ ^,^..y>^/^.-.^.' /,.. 7^ 2r^ / • - - ;% "'* "v 1 ^: "!C ^ 'S \' \' \' \' \' N' N* \* \' ''' ^' ; N' w "^ "^ ^' 'J. K/ V, \j Sorrells Exhibit No. 3-B I ' Sorrels Exhibit No. 3-B 544 ^i?i»o»;>»>&*>oooow*»*' *» . *• /^i i Sorrells Exhibit No. 3-c Sorrels Exhibit No. 3-G 545 rlEIL OFFICE - Dallas, Texas. SAIC - Forrest V. Sorrels ^""'^ :^ovember 30, 1963 Corisdt^ntiajl' ~ On iiiovember U, 15^63, phone call waa received Trom SAIC Gerald A. cehn, V/hite House Detail, stating that the Trade Mart had been suggested for x.he luncheon place for The President on the proposed visit to Dallas aoout IJovenber 21st, but that it '.vas apparonlly noo as good as chc V.'oman's iiuilding at the State Fair Grounds; that Vac Trade ;:art had aboux, sixty entrances and six cat walks; that these places should be inspected and tiiat he be notified thereto. Special Agent xtobert A. Steuart anJ I tlien proceeded to the Trade Hart truilding, 2100 Steramons Freeway, then to Market Kail, just across Industrial Blvd., from the Trade i>lart, and then to the Woman's L>ldg., Fair Park. Then returned to the office and telephoned SAIC Behn and informed him that the Trade Mart did pose security problems due to the fact that there were three floors above the courtyard xvhere the luncheon would have to be held, each floor having balconies on all four sides and two suspended bridges or cat-walks on each floor, and that there were many entrances on each floor. SAIC Behn was iriforned that Market Hall, which has one hundred and se-ven •tbouBand fset without any colunns or pillars would be satisfactory security wise, but that it was not available on the date in question. It was further stated that the V/cm-ari's 31dg. offered no problems as to secjrity, but that it had many small .•supporting beams, low ceiling and somewhat unsightly. On November 13, 1563, accompanied Special Agent V/ir^ton G. Lawson and Mr. Jack Puterbaugh to office of Mr. A. W. Cullum, President of Chamber of Commerce, then went to view the Trade Mart and then the Woman's Building, State Fair Grounds. V/e also went to office of I-'j:. Felix McKnight, Kditor of the Dallas Times Herald. Also accompanied SA Lawson to I ove Fje.d where we met Aviation Director Coker arid Asst. Aviation Director McGready and examined proposed area for spottiiig the planes of The President, The Vice-President and the press. Ln November lU, 1963, accompanied SA La-json to office of Mr.Hgjne Locke, Attorney, ilepublic National Bank Bldg., for further discussion of plans for the visit. Also on this date again went to Love Field where another meeting was held with i-Ir. I.c- Qready and study made of proposed arrival point. Ve also drove the route that v;ould possibly be selected ir. orJer to approximate the travel time that would be needed. On November 15, 1963, we again vient to the Trade Mart and conferred with Manager Cooper, We also went to office of Cliief of Police Jesse Curry and conferred with him, informing him that luncheon site had not been definitely selected and that vre would meet with him later. We then net 14r. Callem and lir. John Stemmons and Mr. Puterbaugh at the Baker Hotel. During the afternoon we attended a committee meeting at the Baker Hotel attended by Chamber of Commerce Manager Cullum, and others where general discussion Xvas had relative to plans for the visit. Sorrels - Exhibit No. It SoRRBLS Exhibit No. 4 546 ?£.rc 2. . j:.L-:ir ^o, _y-\>, accGinpanie.'> i-^ :^-vror; .^o ^r.e .rar.€ l-.^i-;: .:;.r;r-j ve .-.e^ - ' .•:.::.. Coojor ana othijrs rl'i:.t.i<'L ^o cec.rivy, caocrir.^, £-c. Also .:_;;: :rfc3G ri-.prescntai.ives una o^i.J;c re ioc.-r.xori of car-er-is, etc. bn ..ovenuer Ic, 15'-3, acco.~r._r.ioc SA Lavscn oc tihe Trr.CG Marc --.'here vg riet r!r. ;;a;/r.e Havkcs of the ."nitn r.cuGc Zzz.fr, I-'p-nager Cooptr- cnc r.ei'.cers of his stcJT. una conl'errwci re pronose'i arr-'ji^-e-rienbi; of the lur.cheon. ':'.e Lher vent I: Lcve l-'ielG vrhere v;e -jet Depuv-' Polico Chief Landv ir.c hssz. C:ief bachelor ".-jT. looKed over place where zhe clanes vould park. Asst. >.via;,ion Mar^a^iez .'ly r.cz us ant", vat ir. on tAi:. dl::c\:.s3±on. .'Is zr.ez. clocked ^he r.:&torcadG r.u^-j '.•;i^i; zhe ac-ove nanec police offi^ifls frcr. Lov^, 7itld ^o the Trace Aarz. He also discuL^ced ^he area ^o ce sec-red for .c^r. Nover.ber 22, 19'^2>3 proceeded --c Love Tr'eld vAere ve net Asst. Aviation "••'S E-iar.agor AcGre^dy and star^ed ne~otia:-ions ^o obtain adciticnai space for the am.vajL ana ae: of the -^hree planes. re^umsa oO tne .raae .-^tz for further conference wii-h Manager Cooper ana o^her;:;. Lai-er we revurned to licvc Field and r.et Major Charles "edba! -^.^ ;.,-;;, ..^^-ia^icn Cirect,cr AcCready z.r.c. fir^al plans ciscuscedo Zn Xover.ber 21, 1963;, we attended rzaezis.'^. az ;,.:e „l;^cr. .-.dvertioin^ Agency, >12 South Akard St. A'e z'r.er. went to Love Field -.;here v.-e -.ez 'Dspczy Police Chiefs Charles Bachelor and K. T. Fisher, Ass:.. Avia^ion Cirec^or ;:cGi'eady ar.d I-Iajor J-'edbal and final security cirrangerients ^^•sr•e rr:ade af-er addioior-.al :p-co had been obtained. V:e then wen^ ^o Continental Bus Cor.pany, enroute to office of Chief of Police Curr^"- -.•:here we T.ez •.-.-i^h him. and his ccirrr-and officers ana ac;ain went over final security plans. It was agreed that Cniof Curr;,' would 3e coorciinator at. previous r^e"uir-g and ^hat he v.-culd call on zhe Dallas Co'ur.ty Sf.eriff Bill Decker and Major Guy Sriithj Texas Departr.ent of Public Safety, for additional personnel for security purpoces in connection v:ith '-he ^'isi^ of The President to Dallas en A'overr.ber 22nd, Sheriff Decker and Major 3rd.-wh had aeon contacted and agreed ::c ^his olan and offered their full supnort. )n i-hc evening of November 21st, we ntet Special Agents acccnpanyir_g The --^osi- ienu's car and the follow up car and upon their arrival via cargo plane cz Lov< rield, and thorough x.he coopera^ion of the office of z'r.e Aviation Director zr.e :ars were placed in the baser.ent of the Adri.ni5-:raT,icn ruildin,_, v;-ith conzinuou: >clic5 guard. -^?f Cazli ^y SOBBELS Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 547 „- A rV- Sen/ ., :a'7^. .J^ 28, 1963. Oi; •ovu.-.Der 2;?,1963, i'- t o j'r-.cide -t.ial :-:.)torc .ue fro.:. Love r'iold •J'-vox^pj. do-.;, tov.ii .^all-i;!, I ViS rici r: i.; i:.c !• d cvr Ic:. ^t.Cc'OC t: s c.r of '.rs v.'. Pru:-:ic.e .t, of tl'e U'd^ed ;,t,atcs. Ii. t is c r •::'.:. .J-ill. 'S Co-^-.ty ;>criiT Sill Docker, ^i;iof (>r i'Oiice Jesse- Curry of i>a].li;;, v.:.;. v; l cr>i - t..c ct, --nd Socr^t iervicG Special '..-'cnt V.l' _to.. G. L"'.;l;c..i. .',;i;;.-:1 .\::t i, L''..30.. v.-r, sitti..^ or. the i'ro,.t se..t by C. icf of ! .^ice Qirry. i-.-.erif: vocker < .z citti 2 Oi. o. c loit bide of t;.- rv; '.r sc-.t ;.,.d I v.-is sitti r, or. t:e rirht cide. s .^e.u.r.kG iiad ..cc. ."a-de, v;;'ile we v;er-j o.. ::ai.-. otrset, -.oout tie hxi,:e crov.-ds, a .d I remarked tnat they we:'e eve;; r angi. ;j out of wiidov.'s of the buildiri~s alor.g ti;e route. V.'he.i wo tur.-.ed right off of Kairi Street to HouGtc-i Street, I :;otcd that t;.crs; uere several v;ir:dows ope., la a building just .-;orth ol Main Street v.-hcrc Ilia Street cresses, this liei?ig the Tc;:..s Sci. olbjok Oe "ojitor;;, 411 Elm Street, I ..oticed that t..cri v\.re so.ne people lookin- out of t! e iviidov;s, but did not .-;0te ar.y other activity. We in-de tiie left h', d tu.'. or.to £L~ .Street '^J.\ v;ers prnccGdi;;: i.. the airictio of the ui:derp-.ss ....route to ote, ...o.-.s Froev.- .y. V/i.cr. t; e le-'id c ;r \::.z a.-.roxi:;. .tely one half of tl;e dista.ct; fro;;. t;.c i..:, .rsocti..r. of ousto" aj.d HLt. Streo^s to the ; firi;x. u;:-crp .S3, a. ,.ouiico:.G:,t .';.; .ee.'i .-j.:. .de ovor to r 'Oio for t, ose at t. e ;;, Tr..oe M.rt ti:at ti.e liotorc ,;de v.-?.l acout five ..ii.utes •-i',.-".y. V/e v.r;re due at t.e Tr de "-iart at 12:30 F. M. Ju:t .v.c.t.o. t-.;f;fore t!:e five :ni;.ute ?.rriv-l r .dio ani-ioiunce..ie».t v;, ^ iT.ade I had r_,- •—-'. t;. ,t \.e i;crr-j not goi; p to be over about five iTd..utes l£\te ;s it v.-as the. apprcxi", tely 12:30 P. X. Ivhe.. v.'e were ct a point 3pnr'..:-d..-.i .tely three fourths of th,e di.:t- .rice bct'^sen the Houstor: and Kir. Street i,'tersv= _ti-. nr. s.rid the firot u^'iderpass, I he rd v,7-..-it Eour.ded like a rifle shot, ai.d said '"•.'hat's th.at?", as I turaod to .T.y right to look b .ck in the din. otio.n of the terrace and tr.e Texas Schoolbook Depository 3uii.di:i2. V.'hen I he .rd two mori suots I said, "let's get out of here". I lo. ked .toi;..;rds the top of the terrace to mj' ri^ht as t e sound of tho shots seer.'.ed to oo.T.e fro.v. th.at direction. I noted that t:.e President's car had «xc€icr--ted its speed .nd fast clcsi.-ig the ;;--p beti.-een uc. k .?.otorcj'cle pullea up alo.-.-side v.'.-'.s of the c...r end Chief Curry yelled "Is F.r.;-jtody hurt?", to ici. the officer re- v.-;- plied in ti.e aff ir:.^ -tive, 5nd Ci ief Cur'.;:;-^" -?jcr5..atcly broidcast to surround the - bui^di.ig. 3y that time '«q h .d -otte.. just'^.-oU-vIj^''^r7the underpass v.'hen t.he Pruoide.-t's car piilled up ale. .;i3ide, a..d at th^-.t t jj.wChief Curry's c-.r had startec to pick up speed, and soir.eo:ie yelled to ^-et to the ncaret;t hospital, and C ief Cvirry bro.^dcast for the hosnit.?.l to be re.;dy, V/e the.n proceeded as fast as possible to tjie hospital and as scon as the President, Vice Presiae.nt, and Governor Coi.nally -.vt-re iiiside the hospital I Lvmediately left in a police car for the Tex.'.s Schoolbook Depository Bui_Lding. ^ Forrest V. Sofji^ls ^^^^ i.'itness ( Sorrels - Exhibit No. 5 Sorrels Exhibit No. .5 548 FD.302 (R... 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION f Detective ROY E. STANDI FER, Burglary and Theft Division, Dallas Police Department, residence 550 Wild Rose, , Dallas, interviewed on the basis of information received that ^NL a Lieutenant ROY of the Burglary and Theft Division, Dallas , -J " i Pplice "opartment, frequ-nted the Carousel Club, furnished the J^ f V j?ollowi,-.ii information: .^^ vi STANDI FER has worked in the Burglary and .Theft Division, Dallas Police Department, for the past eleven years. He is Xv^ ranked as detective; however, some persons consider all detec- ^ ^' a tives as lieutenants and occasionally refer to thejn as lieuten- J^,^ ants. STANDIFER is the only officer in the Burglary and Theft 1 tsj^ £)ivision with the name ROY, and he is known as ROY rather than >^ *^ referred to as STANDIFER. ^, STANDIFER has known JACK RUBY for approximately thirteen \ years. He first met RUBY at the Silver Spur Club on South Ervay Street, Dallas, while at this club on official business in connection with a complaint received. He knew RUBY as a club operator in Dallas and when RUBY was operating the Vegas Club on Oak Lawn Avenue. He also v;ent t6 the Vegas .Club in connectior. with a complaint. STANDIFER has never been to the jCarousel Club. Ke has met and talked with RUBY on several occasions during the past thirteen years when RUBY would cone to the police building or when he would run into him on the szreet. He has had no close associtjion with RUBY at any tiir^e and has never visitod with hin social-. . RU3Y frequently came to the pol.' je building. v;as widely Jcr.owr. among police officers and liked to rofei- tc rhe officers by x'irst naiv.;- as though they were close friends of his. He has known RUBY tc inquire of an officer concerning the name of an officer with whom he was not acquainted and thereafter RUBY would greet this officer by first name as though well acquainted with him. About thirty days prior to the assassination of President KENNEDY, RUBY called the Burglary and Theft Division and talked to STANDIFER concerning installation of a safe at the Carousal Club, He wanted someone from this division to corns to the club and assist him in spotting the safa in the orooer location. Standifer, Rqy E. Exhibit 1 1/13/6. „. BAYLOR UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF DENTISTRY Department of Oral Diagnosis "Py y /^ ^^^9^0 -Date /^ — Name ft Name_ Patient's ^2^^ ///li/fAr Q. ' ^ ./ Rea^o. Address. /^^ ^ DK J^ E. Epilepsy? YES F. Tuberculosis? • YES G. A series of "shots", "injections" or "needles"? YES H. SYPHILIS? YES (N( I. Gonorrhea? YES Diabetes? YES (@ DK HEMOPHILIA? YES 4lD> DK~ A tumor or cancer? YES dg) DK' Severe or abnormal bleeding following a cut or extraction of teeth? YES @ DK_ N. Periodontal treatment? YES QJO^ DK 0. Bleeding gums? YES ^) DK ~£ytr>rt^^ P. VINCENT infection "Trench Mouth" (^ DK (NUG) Q. Fainting or dizzy spells? R. HEPATITIS, or Jaundice @ (^ YES YES NO DK DK Are you allergic or show any reaction to: I, Penicillin? YES (@) DK I. Iodine? YES(^ DK" ;. l-rjtaphen or Mercurochrane? VES(m) dk" D. Novacaine or xylocaine? YES® DK S. Anesthesia, local or general? YES CSS) DK" K - Don't know emarks: ^ , Staples Exhibit #1 Staples EIxhibit No. 1 —Continued 551 BAYLOR UNIVERSITY - COLLEGE OF DENTISTRY OAT P /o - /<^ - £ a- DEPARTMENT OF ORAL SURGERY PATIEhirS NAME ^^^^^^^^ ^^^a=:^^REGISTRY NO. J/^/T STUDENPS NAME ^^^t^^^^^^^^-y ^^^^^^^ STUDENT'S NUMBER /i / ^^^y^J TREATMENT AND PROGRESS NOTES ^^^ y^y^C. .^-^ u /?- ^ » ^ ^.a^^ % sjl A/f^ / use OTHEB SIDI Of SHEET FOR ADOmONAl SURGERY Ol POST OPERATIVI NOTES r9nB B4—14 Staples Exhibit #1 Staples EJxhibit No. 1 — Continued 552 BAYLOR UNIVERSITY - COLLEGE OF DENTISTRY nAT C /£' I S A % DEPARTMENT OF ORAL SURGERY PATIEWrS MAi^c ^97. ^,^^.^. (^^^a/i.'Y-^^ REGISTRY NO 3^H y STUDENTS NAME <^^^^-^ <^./^.-. STUDENTS NUMBER LL± /'^•S> WMMA DECIDUOUS DENTITION PERMANENT DENTITION Summary of Medical History: Blood Pressure *'.^ ..^t^^- .TT- TREATMENT AND PROGRESS NOTES .y^ u OPERATION (S) d -^. He was instructed by Heut. PIERCE to stand by in the j >^ patrol office for assignment. ^^ About 9:30 AM, while at the Police Station, Captain TALBERT ,^^'' contacted STEELE and instructed him ,to get another man and check the "'.'^ buildings and roofs on the south side of Commerce Street across from AH --. the City Police Building. STEELE and Officer JEZ checked the roofs ^"^' of the 2-story buildings and the doorways and other entrances to the '^.^ buildings; however, they v)ere unable to get on top of the 3-story ^^\ •'' buildings. After checking these buildings, they went back to the 1 iV 'C police building and Captain TALBERT told him to take some reserve -^sj. ^- off icers and move the spectators across to the south side of i "" Commerce Street as they were blocking the police ramp and the police building doorway. STEELE took five reserve officers and moved the spectators as irfstructed. He then took the reserve officers and stationed them at intersections on the north side of Commerce Street west of the police building and instructed them to move pedestrians to tho south side of Commerce Street. STEELE then went down into the basement and ramp area of the. police building and assisted Sgt.DEANE in restricting the news- men and TV men in the basement area. STEELE estimated there were from sixty to seventy people in the basement at that time, including police officers. To his knowledge, no unauthorized persons were allowed entrance to the basement, and he saw soma persons being checked by officers at the entrance as they came into the building. He assisted Sgt. DEANE and Sgt. PUTNAM in assigning officers traffic corners on Elm Street. TALBERT instructed STEELE to report to Jic.No.5097 STEELE.D.F. Deposition— DaUas 3-25-64 Arlington, Texas LEO L. ROBERTSON and PAUL L. SCOTT - LAC £,„,. j„„„j _ • FBI. II la lh« pltMlr ol I Steele Exhibit No. 5097 the Traffic Command Post at Elm and Houston Street and to secure three traffic men to complete the coverage of all traffic on Elm Street. STEELE was not present in the basement of the Police Building at the tine LEE HARVEY OSWALD was shot. STEELE did not have knowledge of security measures in effect in the Police building on November 21*, 19E3, other than his particular assignments. STEELE has known JACK RUBY for approximately eight years, having become acquainted with him when he worked a district in North Dallas which joined the district wherein was located the Vegas Club operated by JACK RUBY. He had answered several calls to RUBY's place of business and thereafter occasionally rdn into RUBY in the Dallas area. He has not seen RUBY in approximately two years. He- was never in any of the clubs operated by RUBY except in his official capacity and was not acquainted with RUBY socially although he has been invited to RUBY's place on several occasions. STEELE has never been employed by RUBY at any of the clubs operated by RUBY, nor does he have knowledge of any other officers who were employed by RUBY. STEELE advised that at one' time he answered an assist-off icer call to the Vegas Club, and on arrival at the 'club with another officer they found an unruly customer in the back of the club. As they were attempting to place handcuffs on this individual, RUBY ran into the room with a blackjack and began hitting the man on the head with a blackjack. STEELE had never seen LEE HARVEY OSWALD, to his knowledge, and does not have any information regarding any relationship between RUBVand-pSWALD. Steele Exhibit No. 5097 —Continued 557 DL 44-1639 "Novessber 26, 1963 "llr. J. E. Curry Ciiic-f of Police •Subject: ABsigiment of Sergeant D. F. Steele Sunday, November 24, 1963 Sir: "Cr. Surday, Koveabxir 24, 1963, I vas acting area conaander of thB 0:Jc Cliff Sub-station. At 9:15 A.M., SLCcompanied by Reserve Ci:ficer J. F. Harrisoa, I reTortnnd to Lt. R, S. Pierce at the Cer.tri-l S^.atiosi. I v&b ii!'.striic.1.»»'d by Lt, Pierce to stand by in the Pitrol office for aaalgzment, "At 9:30 A.M., I accompanied Capttiln C. E. Talbert to the first floor exit onto Commerce Street. Captain Talbert instructed ce to get a man and check th« roof of t.h* building across Coaiserce Street from the vehicular exit of City Kail. This area was cheeked and was secure. Upon corppletLon of this assignment I secured five rt^se^rve officers? and a.:jsi^aed them to move all by- standers from the North side of the 2O0D block of Commerce. After this assignment I placed 2 reserve officers at Commerce and Pearl and 2 at Comicerce ana Har wood ;o stop all pedestrian traffic on the North side of CciEa:v«5r£;e Street. In addition I placed a reserve officer at the CGsrxerce Street entrance to City Ej.ll to restrict exits onto Ccmaerce St. '^pon completion of these asslgnicents I assisted Sgt. J. A. Putc&-a and P. T. Dean in assigning officers to trafflc/tiRf'^S? Street "At 11:00 A.M., Captain C. E. Tslbort instructed me to report to the traffic command post at Eln and Houston to secure 3 traffic :3n to complete the covert^e of all intersections on Elm Street. "Respectfully submitted. /e/"D. F. Steele ^ -Ex.No.5098 D. F. Steele Sergeant of Police Patrol Division" STEELE,D.F. Deposition- Dallas 3-25-64 Steele Exhibit No. 5008 558 Stevenson Exhibit No. 5050 559 ro.joi (R.T. 3.J.S9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Assistant Chief M. W. STF\rENSON, Dallas Police Depart- ment, advised that on November 2k, I963, LEE HARVEY OSWALD, vho vas being held at the Dallas City Jail on charge of murder of President JOHN F. KENNEDY, November 22, I963, vas to be transported from the Dallas City Jail to the Dallas County Jail. STEVENSON stated that, in preparation for this transfer, extensive security precautions had been put into effect which called for all pertinent areas to be cleared and secured; this phase to be under the control of Captain CECIL TOfjBERT, Patrol Division, Dallas Police Department. After the area vra.s secured, he instructed Captain 0, A. JONES, Forgery Bureau, to be in charge of placing additional detectives in the pertinent area. He stated that JO^JES had twenty-five detectives in his division. In addition to uniformed officers under TOLBERT's supervision and the detectives under JONES' supervision, homicide officers were in charge of the actual transporting of OSWALD to the transportation vehicle. STEVEJSON advised that the transjxirta- tion vehicle was to be an armored car driven by ',6 Dallas County - Deputy Sheriff. This vehicle was to be in the basement area of the City Hall in the immediate area of the jail office. STEVENSON stated instructions generally were for no one to be permitted on the west side of the basement driveway, which side is adjacent to the jail office entrajice. News media were to be kept off of the drive ra-np in the basement and were to be permitted in the garage area only. Only news media and officers were to be allowed in the pertinent area. STEVENSON estimated that there were from sixty to eighty officers stationed throughout the pertinent area. STEVEJISON advised that he, himself, had taken tip a position at the edge of the ramp in the pertinent area at the time OSWALD was brought out of the basement Jail office by homicide and robbery officers into the corridor leading to the ramp. STEVETJSON added that he has no idea as to what caused the security breakdown and allow an unauthorized individual to enter the pertinent area. He stated thiat a full investigation Is currently being conducted by the Dallas Police Department. STEVENSON further indicated that he is having a sketch of this pertinent area prepared and this will be '' available in the immediate future. \ \^^. /0P^" 11/25/63 Dallas, Texas ^ . „ DL hk-1639 of File ff by Special Agent a JAMES W. PQQICHQUT & JOSEPH M. MYERS Dote dictotod ll/2S/6^ Tht* docunvnl contains neither rour a^aner; II and It* contents a COPY j,e t,, j,,,r,),utsd oulak-— "•tevenson Exhibit 5^51 Stevenson Exhibit No. 5051 560 Deceribcr 12, I963 Inspector J. H. Sa\.ycr talked to Deputy Chief M. "', Stevenson and reooivcd the following Gtatc-.cnt: "I arrived in the basement of the City iiall on Ilover.bcr 24, 19>j3» about 3 to 5 minutes prior to the Bhootinr; of Loo Harvoy ''c',;alQ. I vjas standing on tho '..'eat aide of the middle ramp near the V.'est v;all and at the front door lOn the righthand sido of Dhority's car. I did not Icioif Jack Ivuby prior to tho shooting of Leo Harvey Oav;ald and I did not see hiia in the basement until after he v.'as arrested. I saw Captain Fritz emcrgins fron tho jail corridor at which time I directed my attention to watchin^f- the crov/d in the baseihent area, i 1 heard a shot but I did not see the shooting." J. H, 3a'..'yor Inspector of Police J}IS:nv/ ••— Stevenson Exhibit 5052 Stevenson Exhibit No. 5052 561 -)¥f''-" fAivu-i:*ir ^j iV->3 f. O* • Curry '"^ C,/,».f of Holiow» 3iri 71t;. r«n"wJp;> tA • d*rcir>ot«:;'icA4l r.xpvi*t of ^wrr.tc prior lo, Ourir^j cr>d ftl'l.-rihv oa«r.ooirotior» of irccid.nt wJc-'.ti r. f<-.ru-j rVy, tH.% sj'.^/i-v; of •'oiic. 'fficr w* f'« Up.^iit era Ljo iu CoiK-Jd c/>tj U*.. ix^.oTv.;* -nui.'jn of J.TCv iicby, cwtilind by tno u>d>r«i^nt:d witli ti>^ CAaistcnc. of ail pulio ,ii i?,. ir>i Tl'^ie at Z%y> ««m«, ]>-.»fxj\y diiif 'i, 7, fir-S r tttxic^.c' a plarj-ili^-; ciat'i f.>;.tifv;i th..; C6iifjif>r.C!i iv.fjn ec'J(\c.'r in r, 'it-''.>.:r*a offic'< at Lov- 5. f ;-,ld, 'T j!> nt w-.r.'. wAj-jT i.f f.lcJi, :* fi; <»%* r^c'r-r.c'y of Air i'crc,, I.r, C'.-urf;'> ^% (.ck.r, i-ir(x;tcr cf Avialicn a-.d ivr. h\Au%rd .'i;.;j:rcdy, Acjiict^r.t Liroci.-^ of Avioticni, and airUrw oTficiaio, l^.ia cor.tacl woo pri. .nri iy ttith li-fi-'-nnt a whilo at t-ovo fiuid* A tf^tallvcj p^arkirr nrcA for tfv. thr-v-j aircraft woa c^lcctvO oo tho ror,v> ftiuth-j&at cf f-atc ^ cr.-J ncrthani of tit.j .-ir rr<>i;-,;»t Cnrr,') t'uildir.j], 0-; al*> (.'ioojcuid ofUiTlty of th-i ^-i.ri.-^-.UT rcjRc ui iiio tirv.. thi tYcai— d-nt*« ploiv?, Air Foroj on<>, v>ould l>«» laf.dir^ otui \c>.ie\^ off. Fiafv-r icoisi told a prr.r.a arra «t7uld bf> rcpod off on tJv* rstrp in tlv.^ viciri- ity of thu i'rt^ivijnt*^ nirplana, Cllvr dieou«c»on« vrjco h<^^*ld with tht> airport ofTicialo and otirlir** r did not concsri ^-)H&} t^iajriiy, ' cjjr ikidLoh inforrrrtd Fia!>>r th** parkinc or/ia wxild b* firr.v^d up by *<;cr>iiadBy, M<3vo«ib'jr X, i9!'>3« Thin >ae;itlog wfc» civ»r ot opproxirmt^iy 9s^»> d Cr. Torr.!*! ^krrclU, tiv> tallas t^nt In dior,',' &r thu 3roUJ3iy wculd : tn-'cd fron Lovo Fl^lo' tftrovi^jh th-j city hcJ not L n firkiJiz d, end tJiat tl^. loofttioo of thj lundi -jo would L>- Itli r ot th TrftU, lart cr th> wofvna lAjilclrc In fair i'orU. J'r, Lav^jn olat- d t/wit h. llioujkl th-> routo frcri LoV) Fi-'/ld would b'l !> tiir j,>rinif;3 to i.odur«rl.ird Lari' to L TTKio Avnua to Turtl<» Cr'.,l« Loul<:vcird to C - •iatrd t»«\t QlthfA< ^ thia r.' j- d to t<; t!i lir pr-f^.r jxiu at th«» M/vot. th'! onnowic tMnl of tu d finil',. rcut:> wxild bi f*>.i> In th; pf<-aa ty th: hoal corTiitt":*. I'r. L«»«a.-in furU^r inforrt-d us t!-.at b<>cao».i ti>; routo had not b-i-o final izjd, no olatcrrjit ohrux>', I'r, Lmv*^ tricfly laid out thj t'filaliv.i nuljcr of vr.hicl »« ilint would b^j In Uv i^va'; aid ttv. crJ r In whic'i th y vv^uld b-.'. Hm alvjvK-jd uo *orvjl* a of tli-i vuriouvj iloh would b.i worn by oullKirii-d (> rtj^rii-l of thj tV./aid.ntial i^arijt ihn Socroi 3 rvico ord plain-cloth-za off io to, Mj atatod thai tliey had t' v,aa enough q,v.j, to -^nrU th.? pla.-i-» ord h.avo rou rd t-.ll t^ w!i-.lh.r :/-. or rut It »»aa auffici^int. ».'r, Uw»»-^ oroa bJiind which opoctatora oould bj contained. At thia tinvi, arranf^'iiXita w^ro tvkd for Acciclant Wiicf La.tcli.lor and Deputy Cliicf U, W, atcvijiaon to ww-.t with Ir. L«i">*jn and Ir, S^-vrr .;l la at tK) Tradj Fori on Indbatrial and Slcmona frt/'jway, Tu-jaday. Lovoi'^txar 19f ly^, at lOiOO a^. rrl.Viy aftorrexv), llovcfibr 1?, l«X5f csJxjut 3*» p.ri., I^SMintsni Chii:T CKarlca Ciatdvibar r**! with tSo h.-»t cofti .1 tt In tli-. tocc-r Hjtil, Poon /^.; vjf. l-r. i'iob Culluj pruajd.d at ti>> rv^.^tini^^ et\i Vr, La^ocn and nr^ti-. r ttit-r of th» i-.-v-kMfr;lw 'i 3;nt. '.'^al «:!* IS,- .Ji»»aji.;n at t^js rr^^.-tlfv; p-,rtainyj to arr3f\\ (^<\iti far \Jr>, f;u iila nl th •l-jxhi-oo, piiilicitv and cr/-rJiriOi».j^>o of uiii *>;»'; rf ttilivit''. ili; mly t!»inc r.»T(tlo(v (xuoillc rout* of til'! Bot'.-rasd-. C:a*d).lcr waa o.-»!ir.» p>5v,I')lo nxrt- a, L'n»*i 'V.^iu. to t-filml Cj^jToo-iRMriy to {\In 3lr-.. t waA^ t. th- roul'^ f f. quirirx; th.. Usjui nan,>A.,r fur trrTflo, tA;t it wia inctr-rial to Ur. <* .;3urVxnt and w-j *»^uld polio any rcAib. tlwit tivi ^^ynltt^j ea-.cJ U>j ixrcjl Gorvlcv a-.l «Vd. C)i>,n-nb-T of tlw oorrltt?* «M-r.;'<5b.-d t!at tS; clc^rst rout*- wculd b.i 8tr«l.-.htcut of Lev-) ri,4d via Cvdir C;>rir»;a to !vcrv»'>;'^» b'jt th obj mo- . tion* »r-i raU.^ Utal th.i oirTac- of CJnr ^I.Tirrja at thia pdnt wio ro«cl^. Th*"" WM no rv.t^tkrt at tills no tirx vV.idl wc-uld L th-; final ,• •iloctlon. II vna alao pointed ch^I tlutt tlu rc^tf) via L^^t^ Av.ny- to Turllo Cr-vls to Gsdor SiTlr^o tc. iV-tf-.f.xvJ to •.ain would .'"«• rati tivj croat'St nj-h r of aj>.clat:ra, (LdtlroMy tMa «u» t}>i rGot^ Uat uaa amoutt^d.) Thia HHMtiOQ laatod about one ^lour. Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053— Continued 563 At IG»U) a«r».| J'-onrJay, fiovtrlxT lei, i'-X3> l>rw.*ly Chi^f H, !U Usvfexy trnd of th:} j»cr':sl i4-rvior, at tov^ fi-^ld n< or t}»> Icr y •.~:>K'y".s* poxkir.;: lot >SlX Uh> Qrtuth .cd of thjf fi^ld, wi crovtiai plort-s ^'IJ^,^lt f-wktd. '.;• W\ tTiofly lrx>'-r.! 3tvrr«jln ar,.j -.£i»»y int::ro r.*a Cdar i*:>rljy-cj l:n.n \?no to l>j U-; t^/^irinirr >:iir>t at viiich UmJcy ((»ould ,i b<:' r-iV^^i^sln for tiv« aa«i£nrH;^t of fucjn en 11%'j psracs roul-s. Luoi^y vt&a crivim tKo csar occt^s-Ad by J:«atC4i:.lor, '-'r* Satr^Uss end l'r» iwfrvjnm ran th-* {>exp.J. ruui,) .;'f>4 aur-fsst :;d by »'r# La5«i0Oj .» - timirijj tj">j r in \ia j «3aifTic»(J« U-i ©talcd thtit hlc ojc^ri'-jTc^ had bovrt that at €t-.©b turninjj points, iharf* n^rn iwuxily iar^ci u'c*v<:*a» li,>aleo ststc^J that Vfi shwvild |-«iiv5 n^ can rc>i.:it railfcsJ aod trr.rfic cv^r- pass thwit Ih;, fjir -..cjid- ntiai p?irty viovld fo unc' r, or>-.i thcit tH;^- ryz^.-Az dx-j\i\4 b--j inetruct-^d not to lot cr:/:n^ iitc/id cvr vt'.CirA-, .jcth of i'r,:.- th'; pr'.icid.r.tial prsrty« '>^r, Lasoir. a1«o r; o^j-v/. -d that «k r-«i b;; p\ry>i(i undjr thi? und.r-vnar! at iHr^-a asid ^n-^i.-x-irj Lrrs^ iVr ccx-jurity* C.atc:.\;Jcr Ust-?d cvrry int-r-j-Ktion v>li>r<3 t!vT.. <^*n5 a fjirmi li':ni> y-x-ry raiifc^ad ov-'Ti'jacaand •c\'':ry traffic nxt'^rpsxaz tm IH.i rot^t^i* TlyTa wc:r?- fra:^ tao lo foiar r>r;n ii ct.j^jq, In «*•.>!» w-3 L llivv. cl «*oulo' krv'.i cf ,> opi^^, th o>j -d Via:^ r :.*wc.'d io l.sr^-^ crt^c'-a ' Kj ^il-l, rai tfRffic ccntrola Kith ru! li::2'-t*i rtrt:j sjr-.n wrlil vi.> f*at '..•. ifi KJ -f d. r„» .Asrry c'io- csM^'.i^. Urt r>jt.i'roGd;» Curry atii'ci<-» '^:;u»d driv^- his c^r, H ll-at tirvi it vrfsa cue;:: vailed t)K^t ih:f j bo a pilot c^jT vii^U out in fr^i^t to b«a on ihy al.jrt for accit>x.ta, firos cr cttv.r tMrvy,i8 t:-nt v>:M\d havi a b^-sorir^ «o \ftl^Kith^r or not tiv> nain fsotorcai; viouid changti ito rcuto bj- foTfj rnoj^ii\[ any apot ^i^uara tro^iilo Kt^^hi ario-.» Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 564 Ah-out 9s3D a*f^^ on Tu^^o^ifty, r:ov)f6 r 19, \%Z9 ^••'sasit-Yil Chi;r Cix^l'.iC CiatcSrlor, D<'puly CJiicf • U, liv v Jia-'a^ ond i puty Chiwf G, L« Lurvi'-^in ' , I rt lh» Kolio, f'-j-jftrt'-hnt rend crovn to tK- Tra.-t- t'oft «*J>ton!J LXrr^^»ic.« fh^y prcc- 'r, V/ilU«'t . O/xr^.r, Vic^'V aidnt ©:;' r.;;n rcl V^rvr;---^ : : iT ' 'rai<^:^ fort, Al^o prvBtmi vnz~r* -Lall r.TiffiJsi, 'r* Cfv;-'VT'''s U..V rai cMnut'.« t:^!*^^^'^!!^?^ tlv* ov-rrill f>l;-r.a Tor Un a a^ity uP tj-^^; tu»ldifv> ;r« 'mx-.-kT pfccbcd pl*?^tix;.8'a;,'^va of t^vj int'Tior ^r ih-- luitd- ir^; jisurdai'.^ t!*Ql. h-j Ijr^d floor pK-r*© ei" c-ach floor If »?>;. \>ri'jlu U-.-i to hav-. &:ji,>j;.a or th..lor ai.at.;tJ itet v>< v>.,uid ii'^'? to Jj^t.-.^ tlK^a^. o-;ji'-;o on-J A*':-v<) "r« CiKoir it hi l«2.d a plat of I'v- t^nlir..- Uvv^ut o*' iio to brif\7 thco<* plaia to his orflo. Wh-TO th.^y mk^o d.Mvnrtd^ r«t^'lor as-kcrf SV-vr.eon if bv vcrvsld Ukc to 1-w.vr- a crf)y of th^; fitor pijaia to v?<.r^ tr3<>r plena w^^j't* hs^^-yd to i'«at>» c^c^rf^ti** '^•ittvm l':>rt V'r. Ccofv.-r'o ufriej rind » rst to ih-..- j^tr-src; rS th LtiilcUnQ at vihicjK tho v'r.-sitVot ?»i3 to f^it.r, svt5): Ui»l«-ir>r; cTf irKV.'i*riGi UMl.'^KTii afi'r l'.>cr»/i}x,' ^t./ryzioc .jr-r-jiic^vrj.y. At Uk firct aid> cintrar>cA, r, Lck/u.c.n siA^.t'So' t^d^t Fs.v.rlj^jil.jly G-JJ^soiTit ^ to t>.ivs :^itr>ar5f>.' on tl>v aiilv^txlk -^vlii r--- a i>rimcs.d:.'J ."sra v^vro all f^A»a f'?:f.-5ix-\ end {>!>:• tcfTtvh-.r a i^vjlc' Iv' aUa^-HJ to co-vTr-f aba sTt*.'^ th<'.ir crvi>.ntic:l« VK^rif d-..<5<';d, t'soc thfit th./ «sHtld b-: p-inrsitt-vd to cfit-J" aft;^ tiva .'r .^jtf* nt'« pcrty had j^Xri in» At tMo tinaj, *r« Uarson o{ai> cutlin-.d th- &r^a e-n tJv. Jnclfatrlcj Ctr.^^t aldi of tW> bjildirx; tlat v^c/^ld b r«vv..c; cff csid t«rrt«idvc' ^j-i r;«r^rv'd . Tor ih.^ V'.^lclco cf Vrj pC'-.r^idnUal pcorty. t'-r* i<'iUiAro '>>-45'-r «?-/>.-^J tc* pMi his oieurity p r*.r?5.'i en th snyoy of tKj .'-^.'i^.t \k\\l iAtiU'.ir^' XvcaA^'J ccro/i.^ i-rxixiiricl t^c-alcvorii csr^d north of !>r? atac* ncrcrd t-'> .olac?' tsar.j of hia p-.:rGc-.r(n- 1 t!v» Trak^i ^-art* <>n tivf rcof of tlv* rwrnituTb :.art Ic^ocit. d «wtH o? th-.< Tr.vJ. r;irt» A poUfrj of fi©^:r would t^5 oaalcnvd wn tl>i rc\;f cf U>i yraS'. '-as't ita-ir. Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 565 At thin tifvi vpc olcrtf.d on a tour of five Uiildlnfi, I'r. Loivocn r',c|u.«lf^ tvKi c\i\ c-utaid- th.i. 'nircs-yor ihi lY-.oidnl %*ou\d crv' fY»> e»\ .onh otair loevJi.x? of tiv» {"cxX fk'Oi'o. !io v^rnl thrcj, Ik ut th^V-^ fc/^Uro firot and »f«cr>od floors pointinc;; out wh .r« h^ v»ant'KJ »-d on throtij^^h th-s. hall cr» tK? rcuio tS<* tY^djid^nt »»ould tAi.-?*'-r. LcttJicn pointed e?ut th? o^rota or I ^joat ciTijs «t which ha f»,lt «rcurity officir* WKjfc rv; d d, Thia oar» prco^-dufsi waa foUcwtd ovor tha entire f lr«t floor. R«t« » v^r® takv^n by $10^:1^000 of th« Iccallcris for eaai^nmcnt of poliori ©ffio<^»r«» «h « w* ru«chod th.< kltch n «*r» the flr»t flooTi th-^ probI«n of »cr:n h^lp v.Aa diacuos d» Arrtu\: f^nta *»t^> ^'''» *^J*^ ^1, G^ich, tJv> cmi'.vr^^r^ fftprtiV^Mirr Crotty food l^n/ic^^ Vr» frgsntj H. US^rnan, fsrrv fly with tho city of raUo^i, end »'r« Lrt'i*^ «»cr«» fed* to s curs th^ oulotd> cbor Icadirc into iU^. kitchen at 7»tX.' ©•''*'« -O'* officvr w-na to b«? plftocd cuteld? th» door and a *:jcc5r>d officJ' Iraidsi th) kltdirn* AU «rtploy^j« r.nti^lr^ tho Uitch.,« v»cr?i to bo idjitificd fc-iforn b'ir.^^ ad- wittvd* Ml tho»«5 w^^o wsiT^; in thi kltdv.n ot that tirs. war* to b« cU^ar^ * ^M altto diaoMvod t^jntifyinc baK^v^ inhlch would b-a worn by tha kitdvo U'Ap* Aftor cx»nplet-curity . officer* would- bi n^-^d^cJ. jirc'; t!) third W!d fourth floorawr..* th^v> )wr>> a« th>j 0«sicnl la^rut, with th:; <.>sc ption of one* l<^a« ixrri&jT lt>Rc'inj2 into th e',t.rty->rd, r« l#?!«ion slc^t-^-d h^ j ' «>ould n^''iatch< lor instrix:l.'.d ^t-wonaon to ojCTrlaln Iho fxe^fooT of ptrocjmJ, biJ'ly ».-:cw»i tbo»a <<^ly peftorvt to be »llc*»od In Ih^ tulIt'inEj oft^^r 7»^' o-"*» «culd b* tho fcccxr^-inta of th« fcuildinj; end buyoTa. T!i y would ba i«xclud d fron IK J dinirv' ar*A «nd thv/ wc:-uic not bo pcmittcd to brir^ ^uosts for tho p-^tf-pcnxi or aening thi Pr MsidM at th* Ivntth'xv*. It «aa alao diocuatwd that aa rvaar aa poaslbl^i th'^ offic-^ra on th^ outald'> pr^fkir." croa would acro;n thd oarly patksrtk to Urait perkir^ to buildir^ ooouponta c^>cn in th.y privates ciinjrv foon'enti Irfl tho U^)n retumirvT to th*i Folios Guildir^, f?^ldv-'lor r.iCvjrfK^-,d d lo .^rry that iv^-uty Chl^f R, H. LurtJoy cf th» Traffic Division lo placv.rf in cfxirpti or iraftic Bi-d ftcourily al.-^: th-» jK\r«d: rouU, that C©i)tain J, f. i^^^Ur bvj put in cCT-nand of tho crcwd oontrcl ond eocurity art^d thv^ c=utBid. of th^ Tratfj isrt, and that Gttto^*.aor ooordinat« tK^aa t«K> > cprratiomi. To thi« ho ©cfoHi. Tuo^cJay artc-rrKx-^, fkvt^.;r 19, I9^a3, Cfncf Curry infcrnv-d Ixjrgi-.in thjat K* »^^ulcl cTlVi thy pilol cor iB«5o OrT;:^V3ir (1/^ ^Jl^ ^,._^^ ^,f ^i,,, p^.^^j. fl^^l»« ^xsrty «r>d k.>vp tJim inf crrx-d «« to thj c-::n.?it»on of th-^ root;-., th. cr:wrfej» Qooid.nto, firoa ond erythin^ ^lac Ual fr^frht cai^- t'^. pr-caS- dMiAl porty to «tcp cT plsoc it in d2r<-cr, ^Jtovcmon laould assa-a tvw d t^itivoa to ridi in tlw car aith lu;v^^.? a conf^iJ-- ^'>^*^^^*• ^'^* U.v'-er.c:; of th.. Traffic I^ivl-^ic^, ^'k!!^" ^V^^^y.rf i^'j honcteritt^n liot of locatlcna tmC fw>b)r of »^.?f. to bsi cvnr.i.m d ».)d ov'T to lua«r>»nc.j, end h^ vten in3tfuit l&jv^riix: rwt only th^ys-, tts«ic"^^vr.rito, bgt plcclr^ a';»'iiilornal ft>'.r> in mi on cither iii> tf^ i,^torcftd> by about ^ oppointn«>nt had bi^« c»cH for r>-puly Chif f lu T, fiu-h-r a^d Afti*iaiafit Chi.if Chari/ia fialdv-jlor to rrsit v»ith ^ r. Us*ac/> sr.d :^r. ik^rvilo on i' d- iv>»cby «f tornoon, hcjv3 to pian th:^ security andcrowd o:^trol at Uv^ Fiold. TlUa cpptx>t ««u3 JatiT c«rt<>;illt)d with Cinof 0. L. Ourrv by V^r, LawtadA b-^ooMM Air Foros por»crA.*l had nat «rrlve3« O-.iof J, !, Curry, Aas&ictflnt OyiaT Ch5rl AacictiVji lifoclor of Lov<» Fi'.^ld, at Lt/v** Ti-.^iid ot »vj03 a.n, t» tir>oXi2'i plana Tor t;v.~ ».rrv:;d ihn ih^xl lh„r,-. was l'.^ r.xr^ dt th., ioc^ti^rf-* for ^i\^ park- jnQ ©f tN-s plarvita nr*d lh« hstvilinf, of tba convoy of vohicics*. «•« v^<\i j;ct«irO iiAi'irvj to t^o field frcjn Uv Lov^ Fiold E«illdir>g ov?r all and tivi fi?ncH»i-ift ar .a. Wa -.xanir-d l!v^ iJivid^d rciadi-:^/ tital w.!>f>coijrft> Itvd onto t}v> fiolcia Tliia ©niuaiiy was i*^> rv-yncVsrava divided by a lfar^-> fTac?"v/ *s*'^A aLout ICO f^o-'.^i in «iidi hj v^cntxi tSt roa for th-? pttf^xir^ cf v-McI'va of ih.H r\(jr^ r^ of Uv? r -c .^tiat ca:7-;it*'^^''« {'r» V^gr-.-dy nirTc'sd to t£u > out a ^--ctlon o-f r?if»c^^ that VKirroiSxd d a \csr,.: :s^lcy<>-c* pcr^inQ Jot «t t^vs «y>ulh c-nU of tlva fiold in crd^if ti-at v .n»clvyi Lrir-ifvj tJv«» doum tiv"^ road*ey n.^.ar 1£V' er^ia w}w^<:i th pr-ioidonti*! - pl«w^ « wjuld arrivo* H^ aJ*> «rr»i'< tak.ay 4r«nt led to uvdiT U>rirf,ss in or&r ih^i the pr-Qidntiel p«rty co:jIiJ ic-avj ih'< fiold t-y foUa:/M>7. a rt>ad.ay al-'ng en irii'-rit^r rcr>o.-i and cut acro»a dir^wtly «>nto C^car Sirirv-fi, Thia wc-uH avoid Lrinrtin^ th.^ profiio.-ntial oarty dxsn q rrji-6hoy v?hid> w.uKi b-. uad Uy th p^iLlic. : (So^j s'iiftdv-a of plc!f>»« fv»>ircing poraantv>i, end barricsitria tl^at wcHifld b--^ n^v-^i^d* ^r, Ls^^jn pcj v»h r ? too prE^-j could connunl- *jfilo# iJa aloo dil»cus^s.'d pins^.ts for ropir*:; iiTC 4sn sr -a for tin pr* sa cul- &itk> tiva f^^noa «way fror^ ih l'X>3, ^owt ICiCO o*^*., l>;^ty Chi of JJ# a. vtcV'.3ft5!)on, «ooy vf,r rrtt ty Cnpttiin« «• »"*• :* C«/inewiy and J* iS« Friix* Tb«) «ntird fotr flooira of thi« iouildiriC vm^Tu Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 568 ond o»c*> Captftin %«isa £jiv«^« ffutfXjrwBlbillty of naasrHy on «^aii> oove^-ftil, a floor- with Captain J» ^» Fritz nnd C«,>iam rU i\ r»!arrMsi«ay aj-^alrjn^d on tlv.? firut fiocfi Captain Hicfiola on i»-oonc! f lc>cr, Crvtain famln ilv.-) -en tf>? third floor end Copttun Jorv^ on Ihrj r«,rti^ floor* fach point wt^loh had b>:o pointed cajt Ly i.'r. La>^on en c*;r pnjvioua vlaitd ^.?jj alao c^>:^ cv^tT wji'i thts C;}ptair,a «r>d pcJntr^d out to th-.rn* Ths Can- tairu* v».jr.^ ciSarfN.d with tbi f-ia^oncjibility cf et^xrvialon of th> patrdrrjo «ncf d;tc>3tiv»^'«i witrkirY; tiv.jr r.;?:^^.^!^!^:^ fl^yora with t>w fij«»ptiorv«f Tritz. i-'fi v>ais np.-cifia'iUy i!mii;T>«*iJ to tfve; er«ja InrvjtJini^ly tdJ^ind tJva h>sui taLlo '.i^r,r<>, with ftJc'itionai VAiOf ha wyuic ontauroi tS^at poaitian froo eeriy «j»rooich ly urwiuiiK-ri3L»<{ yHro..v!-«># *^«^ Snith of fiadio Station ^sTt otood by on Tlu^^scJay, i'^viio Tfiv.xi6*'r 2^, in Ihu fiadlo fV<:« to r^a'cc crry n.ojo- «T»cJ fisfiry rr>;>aira to radio r.<|uipr>M that dx^jIcJ tvo rv>ttd;la.tiva froo l\Ch S'-edio Tujpair i^cpcrtrvont InGpoctod police radic V quiprKsnt prior to t^at, tiding it a%d p^«irse nur<9 it waa in good workinc «vrc>5r« T»;-:Uctey, f:.?vrdber 19> IT3» four \«jlkig-tAl!o« «»cro chc>d«d, tootod «^vi rv^ bfittorios inatallod for uos on Frictey, fiovafccr 22» at tlw Trmb '-art. A svi-itifif; >siQ£i oalltod oo TKa"afJery, Jjov^fibv^jr 21, 19*B> c^t Z'^ P»"« by v;hlof vU L, Curry in ihi K-jUoo Ccinr«r j-sco rkxxi* tVra-rtt at this rv;;'.tir\^ ukjt^ Chief of t-'vllo© 0. Zm Curryj Aa^isisnt a^i«5f Clerics Catdwior* Lcputy Cbicf© C» L* LirpUin, U, W. 3l.3V«?nooo, n# tU lundry ar.iairw J« t^« uxft*ir, if# t^« Ceor^rfSOk'sy, (* sV. l^-ircncsi, G, iD# *'d ?> L«?t>-i^, 3:-cr.>t iiorvleo. Thia Rcsotlnn *3a for th oonofsmir^ tlw s>r?®i.icrs, FicH-r twssa charjjwd with o^^twrit^ end cnQ«»d osnlrol at Lc^va Fiuld Air Tij «itl; traffio coi^tro* «n tix? '^fitirc route* ^M Query fsfiiaif^d tho rr Cprir^a to t^aKfeingbirti Unoy ttooUincbird Lorw to Turtle CT'j^, Turlio Crk-^ to Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 38 569 M'.ol.s) sO LIm, f-lrt to ;>t::;frxHV3 ;:;ir'.Hit>i<»y, Ct-jrit-icria "- ^^jrcaa^ay tsi t>Si LvAii'^vtd'd a4<>j of tlict tVadj J^eft j^xsrkir\; orcxu Curfy «taito<3 that tho prcaidntial parly vstooW t{ Trc>h '-artj frcfj th?? poriunr let «-, Itts* indsstrial s4cl3 of th^ Trad> '«5rt» to Jn.iu-lrJcil, }ndi.~trr^l to i'^yry Hincsi Coulavard^ lanry iiif^--o bjuicvniTd to lxja<\rv-y.ir to Ccdor :>-^irY;2, C-xbr ^--rirr^o to V.v f ir;^4 ©-fvicj rooi-.! f!c-rih cf Uys BanonJa Im fird biAj'. to th'j vicinity oT Cr^i.., .'/L at tivi M-riorsri Air Lirttv^ fr^i^i Cii:«i,T£ •Jrr*^ ih^ pr- r/.cuiicl picii-js VJwJd bs pr:jrU:.ii prior to dopcrtura* 'r. Lasri^-a-v virifitHi t>v-. rowicn as oct out by 'CJ^l.^f Cyrry» Curry at^^i';v5^t>at T- putv Q^icf ('• t. Lijnp*> ^Kid Aac^ialmt Qu^-f C:hor«-i« Gatchc— ix M'cls tHr( u^ ihc; J;lcii>'.5ro-irc ocj that tiit; i^ttf'^ C'''"-Jp ot.njlri ft-Trc th.^i, 'inits xtna oa foHav^t pilot a:y» acn «v>«-rourU'i (lA) nilo &*v.,^ cf iha rx'^.rcc- •':•• ^,>u rv,^t>>f cc.^ l..o4 ccr cnrttairsirxT: Chief J, . • Curry, .^i-ritC • iJiU :. ,c/\..r tjnsJ ;*<.xrot J.:rvic-.' /V'-rrIss« T5>.v iV.)^id.rjt*fii car, a -i-i-crot w. JMc.-> C^, T}w>Vic.-s'r -oifd.nt^a car, o J^.'Cfjt C» irvio-j ccr« A ccr c Car I f it'i H:-.y..;r Cri>-ji, " I-.;; rv'.l'-d iTiss I'-y. • ^^a. Gd:.-';H^ Ccr/^r-w :,:'r«n pi^'i-jr/rcr.Ursij a C?> vro'--;t C^4'^---rtJtio oarryinQ cfirr-ra r*jr,, a Ch-rvrol»^t C<»n«r>rtjLln viith pT'-iQi:i roprc.ar.iitativ^-3, A car caai;;-nQt-.»d as utt Ix/, 2 %»ith four (}r) CofTj;ruaar«r> in it. A car CJ Officipj pcrtyj^tViW tU'J..::* tS'itt'H iihii.S JkA^J.: :">r'.cc r \-r(;&-r>» iotiv.-iSj a i^ontioo outcexLjlu luth !?.>• Urtit<.-'J St^iV'-a '^ilrjxil Ccr"^-^-:* ai w- aim Ibion cwr, ti'^o extra cars to Ui uac-d in or!u&-} cTa. tr -i'^.'tiwo erd end tHa rctsxr poUc«j v^^iclo* ^rtcr 'V, Lc«ac« had oas-sjli-risd titia Hn^^. c^, Mt^?v.sr;t;o}^ 3lai.>i that Ivj a oar fc jiind t'v; VJo;'^"rcasiJ ni« At I'ua point Curry hcvi p»Gr!n-.d ffjr oti\trd tb^at •*! thcw-ht wn had plafox-! ilicit ue,::tc>in frita wtx-id t-j in tha Mtitc»rc5id ; b >-unU t»^u- VioW'rn»lt>rst*a cx^." at v».'^.i<5J"» tirw) lr« Gorrwlls said, '^io, r»':!un£; vws «fi s?xiffc->;U on lhat«" t'r« Lai-aon scv>.o up ca^o* aaxd, •*>• Kidnacn mil \vsva tho SxcTcit S^-iTvic'? Lurpkln r norkod, '^a ocn atai^n Captain Frit42 avi sx*yj c:;t.«tive9 to trifyr i^ tH'» roor*" Vr» Lw^wcn ©tatod. "ia VKsuJd lik^ to hcwo a laai.v^J or whit* poUoa ccr ttitii fUi^ir^ r&d ii£;ht« at^t! uTkifcrnv^d oTCicaf to trif^ up Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 — Continued 570 thi^ n>car of iha (soioroowl'j,"' Ourry t'jon ir.».tnjclnd Londny lo crrcsxj* for a irfiita traffic car to brii^ u:^ iht^ r icw of ilw> r»t>raat>rori(>i, a^J I^tdv^lor varoto tlvrj on it.: biCi>:id.<',rrA* Lcwrrncn. &Uii-?d tSat tlvra wxild bo a rvott;.rcycl.-3 !x.rr^: ••n-^t c*^«^ *^^''^ ^^ twtcrcyclo offio^^ra bv)t"»vK^n th-j! rvitorcadj cr.d thi pi let 5j:?r f;;r t.Vj pu*pwi>; of ra%ur<-; th> ofriciru C5^ the routd twa'a of Uk- c>4V-':r>w? cf th.i rit:>rca;>i, cr^6 to ossiot in «sny traffic ox>trol or a-cijrity r. s-.sjr a Vmii n;ic?"-l i^ j-wr^vA-'.t. A notoroyclo i.,ri:.ont a four (^) ^«yl^•^,:>^^^^ Oitic:TQurjj\(i ir.r^ciaioly ^t»» olic4"»xU ikitcJvjJor c^-^;;'.iat >d thcj.t vs-;l«y cut thr. ttT-.pIo^.-- j:.x»i.crc/cl» Grrflf^ rvwit and th*.*> r > v»ould bs f-jr C^-) j'.ot-.rc;'cl'.;t* en oi*J':r ©id of t.'vi rotorc-..*. i-TX;J li^at thi© vsa^ tv.x> rok.';^^, tivit h^ i;v-( wou\d ti ajfricivint, al-zai evv?n v»ilh tK* r^sar f».r,«jroo ii>i aiiinr tvw alorjg i' nvct^TcycUi. Jt wcsa i'«:>lGin;jd tJ'tttin c^J r to Hold traJTio '*adt on Gtxnc.na. r.j^->fv;:i3i*^/ tc lot i'vo t»tor« cofia proox.d wiiJv.>ut any vJilclo^ pcr.j-i:>irx', it, il »:;u!d b-i n.:^:--. ij-rcry fcr f jv» v;"?) rv)\:>rc>'cloo, tor-ard th.) 'nd cf t'h.s rc^to, !=> procw-o 4X>o?sJ, cut {h.i fiva Lvipi of iX;.'rcii;!'^y traffjc ond held it w^til tH-> nctCiToad) f;ot on Uvi i.')q:(rfi«tJi.>v*, nvy wjr;i thji to fcUrK> the rioturccisii to thi rccsr to oU^w tn*!i tra1"fio to proceed ot t'm> uvxi zp-r-d, La^rt-roj fyrthr;r tf»t h? ha;:^ orra"r;s:u) fr.r thro'>-r.h -I ty:Aor^ ',>fp!ftin': b-orinnirii"; cf tPw rcnjic to pic^ cp cffic r.-a rxid prcc<.KvU i'T.v,t^sr.t^-l/ aftTsr ih; ryjtcrcarii tvxJ p&r»L&r,d to i>i.a:rx4io r;tpTco.i;'^t/ or.d b^j pr'--xTc tlw notc^ccik' -rit-T.-sd tl>» >q>rc.G:»r^^y« -: A<]Jiticra! rxn fr>j.i cl(>r\- th-:- l> /:inrijr^ of tiS<; rcvtj «f'ir.^ old!: io b^j r«vod to Ihs TraJo* t'^rt to cw-»)ist vsiih cravd ccttroi* lY, t«?con Hvm chctvj'd ua tlvi invitation ihit Vv>;>uld a<:hit ,:ucct3 to tfio Iundv«i> tilt vsriouG id^Jitifysr^ tCv;;o thai iiv, pr.aij ^«ri&ira pino that ih-o, S.^cr-.A ^i.rvia. ffi^d i.^ito- ii(:<«ro otsff «K^ld «>.^6r* l^ gsv« ua A card ashc^sii^ tha fcwttgrH) snd bat^^s in co)cr»* Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 571 StAv?r»yjn aJvia d hJn Uiat h. ^oulti have ow r.ty (7.) p l^i >»"''- 1 '-'i-'"''* '''^» lY. U»»jv-in cUU'd lik3t Iwi pn.' -!vly tlid rvot ^^v.-.- ajfficw.-r.t LulW.s fcr titfit r aQri-.->'d In tJw' itT^diat'! vlcirity of Ih- iTviid-M aJv:uldw>-ar tS*) id'Tiiii''iccUof> Utlorio in (tr^}r livil iircr ;t S.rvic w.d olWyr r>.sil»?ra of tSis i'r.;old:ni*e parly could r «>;,— . oi3<» than SJ» offic-'fa. Ir. Lcw&vfl r>.-rv sti:a to Itv. Tr«d. !..yrt. L\rp'flr- - at'-. on t)-t.- C^hcon.tl I J rac'ia, and t!v\t h:- \«culd ^Mlv^ Tiout-r at the TravS i.'aft notlfit'd viJvn tlKv isctorcjO-di. r^.d\:d hin lK!\t tlv.y v.>uld havi a r'ublic u'trka trt;o< erd « ouxrrisof In a car with a ra-'so for Ih^ purp;<3 of ruvinj; any otalructicn* . ftlji\, tlv- routo or in aldirc in ary »vay th 7 cculd, Lcur'Ac-j ajtnour;*:vd t!-*3t hj had crrjirv: 'd v>ith th ratlrw-.-la Qrcc-iPQ Iho • pr.-ajc ntin! rout:: f-Jit t;> y vo-xild not i--^\)--> triiifa c-rosainr- at th i tirvj of ih? iTvilc' r.l*» ^C5i*\> in i.>dn.iC.da7, rkvv^: rs-i.irfd 2t t '-rt by UKv-na.-in, !v; < r, jf; r- i Ifr of IftllAa C/iinty, «bout furnishlr- aorw pors:>:vi.l. rAJ-r Guy Ciniih a;r..>^d to furnish R;--»^ro«k>at:\ly tii) jvn isr.d Sn riff i-'jcV-.-r a:/, d to fur- riffih cp^jroxirvit iiy ij r/n| ViJilchi wcT i to L« axi@i;jPifi to Sl-wna-v^. C« Thurc.'ay, t;.>v-.i;:r 2i, 1^3, c^ortly nfivT th>, n>vtir>r cfttlci by CS^kf J. • Urry in thr. i'clicj i^.^fiforcnc's Hoon, 'Yc. Cnvvj c?.nc.d fron th-j ' Trad^ Ctrl a-^-J e;:5U-!d fcr t'4; j^riHiiG»-:o 3 to ab-.n'. I7 on th.. Indu';lrijs.l i. C.--uI-.vosrd aiv tif tlv>. Irc.a rsrU I-uci-jy Jx.^h -i fi^. rol ix/-^.- vicri c::r:- ; tfvjt-'d ond Grrcrv:;-uv s^to r J • f.r sCclonr^ 0, i-.n- a-i-ulnnc.- r p-rt-vd CiT -ctly ij th-9 Trad; I-rri .^-.J li^iwi fl.rj., end of>.) f^.ijrn n.*y c'-J.u- .-'.r l4V«t> rpcrtcd to Cato at Lev.. Fiv-ld to oicno t/ in cas,? cf xm -.n/r- ;...- ;'.ricy dirir\; Uv? nrrival of th:, pr.nsic oUtil p'-J'ty. Up-^n Ih arrivzi, • th- ersbulancj left L&vg- fir Id cr>d r..;)ort«d dtrocUy to th.j Trad- litri to cUsid by oa a frtoond ariTbulfinoi.) Lator, a.i::f Curry inforsAd Lli -..•" -'-^'^ - .cr^^t S.rvlci n::n«.:.uld trinj; th-. ^"'^-aid nt»o t^i^r end ar»yUv,T c..r tL> thv tcjcw-'^.t of t'r, Clly i'-all, : tS y oTo to fco> plas d in tlv^ avuth aat corn r ef tU.- p?a-l;ir^ &Td on \h4^ to rr< V'.iit c^ny .n frcT; t.-x-i.) ri'v; t.»th tJv- > c«ra, ini'j ;u?rd \»a» tc i>- l-ft ci^ conlirAJ-nvily until t'o- car* vv.r.. pic.';-;*! UT ty >>cr.it ^ rvicj rv n TrLity rv;mir^:> Lun;i'j d^iay in th- wv- Icadjfv- of Uv pr.ssiv^ nU:i.l cfjrs, artj trat t)-- y v, r . h:iiv, pliiod in th i jxirKifiJ or^a in tn.i t-^n. .i-.-nt vf th L.-.vi fi-.U />ir Tcri-unai. •• H.; r.-qj -aUd CaiLvy to &.^d tivj fuord tc Lovo ri:.lu. A t^ird ttciicatiino en chajwil M* i'looptlon vaaa va,>.c»al' ly f,v>od At tliat tifM* Steivenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 572 c\cu&/ «n rjf>rr.in;; vsaa cloii..ia brok'3 aMvy «u.o,j-Kity CJiicf iU y. ^t'..vr,r;on fqjcrt >'J tv-> lh?j TrA,dj Tjarl f»l 7*00 c.n» on Fridiy, r.cv-:i?3:. r 2;.\ l%3« vi v :n (.:..«"* (i?) pr.troJ off ic- fa r^.h.-r t'v~' tc jtovv.*.Tn &i tiwil lif.'!-?. Tlkii.^ r.>.^'i wT-/ uiicd is a.:.:*! off tir-J^'i \i'.id-» ?t, U'r;Oi. «2riy o-curity ourv.y, > u> 'woru picc- irf- J <.• cid.j Ih-^ kiW; •n, a r«an <;n ihi UHdt-f» fVvsrj re n •n-itTM ploo'^d or; f^pxfi cf ih<'. jra, en tt^u roof and o tha«^j PK'jr* r.;)c.rt.d, 'it:^V'.r.i^T lock ^csaS rjrjn Ic itia p^at cf A.t'Sik'ri- {n.r.t, «i r.v.n a:>^i.;n.:-;; lo iiv.» crt} wiulc' fa 4 p-r.n,iitttrf to cvnl..'>f u^J-.Oij th y Knd t'-v prcpv.r fccvi/.^ or iv.-.-)- < lificatii;r<, tl>at rv.:^^ <.T Iha t-jna-^to in t?>c byil-iifr-* would tv. p.niiii'.d to rr(l'.if tl>-- cHilaid.r dxxa, that tJvy ^i-ctild to r.i^juirot! t^ '^nt'.r Ih . fcuildio;^ t'>rci^>i t^Ki• fr-r.M oct^jr co ti^et lJv.'y ccvid tc^ acTr- .n u. i»l4V.nc-jn clao pl.:%j;J Cfi^i fusn on th*,* insidi of ih., fr-., i,«it «yr'5a« Tbs rxn &ai;i,fnod in Uvt kitc^< n cf^aymra ir;iiiruct.'i lo p-niit no Cf>o io thi kitch-jn t>nt^'r sjr-va ur.tji t^.-jy l«ad i^jn iCMiifUd by tjvt' caterer, {-t. Oaich, cr hia Cjig tsefi ¥;ac plaC'-d ©t th^-i rx'.-stj ir?iGt*:a t?ir>, in th-. front kbby to aaaUl ^K^or* Th-A-TTicr £iC/si::rv d in ihu fr -ii^ht sr-,..:^ v-'e.-:^ instr^^l- d t!'«it n^ proncsfly identified by ti>.> ria5r.t-'u\^*ccs cvis-w^irciT cr %Vdfi W'i»rir,_;; C '-oinlo- At 9 X a,ru, Co,)l.!i!ns t'. 0, VcrMc^f 0, A, »^;;r:-,.-.a, J» C« Hid-^-jl© rj-^d i.'» P. C>^%'-.x.t&'y r.- ji>rt<,^ t-i Sl-w-.-J-^Ctcrft -rvt t-.i Trad-, r.-yt, Th.-jy vvcr .• p*s:;rJ-n--o'* t:. I'v; 6cc.'>>n.> third H'^^r fti-id i;:.r.^'is to i-»-, fc-urth At ^v;.rcxir-iiioiy 9*'P licv r-opafi'a)nt ro;>zfUd i» ^i^r^n^icn ^i t'v- Tra'A- I'^rt fcr Gcsic^^'"'^* "'V"3i.'S «^vn %Kvr:j' ocK'sij-jfV^d fcy t!vj C©;:tain ttho t-^d I'.cn given ti>j fov'wviiljIUty of a^^curir^ th;, variouft j>afT.l« on tha fou* fii>c«ra» Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 573 ?».':> rviurrxv cTfioyfo f^spr^rtcd tu :;iUvc<>«i« ait im Tm.*. ^Vrt for a«30urUy H s^^rtmifySiUly 9*^5 «uw«$ fil-KVan (U) rvatroL^vn, cs-t^ (i) essptxiin and on^ (I) fran th;- t'oklldA Shi-riffo offio^ r ,r>ort«>d to :it.iV.»^G:jfl a.:r^-.--'*r!t fit tin Trnf.'.i crt for o-icurity aax ij;;"^'^'^'** ''^^ ^•' t-'^"*" ^^^ W'-ri c^Ar^r^t^i ! ur.(> r t'vj Jc;:)taints in chrr'^ cf lh*iV-Oi-> active. flvx-.r:u Tivs h-.Gvical c^-ri- •. c ntratic^n smT ofFac re iwxa euwiij^nfxJ io tiv* pvto vulr>.r<::^l© c^jcta cjn th-j firal said ft*scon5jld fc : ftasJ^r..>d pooti* Jcrv; Jjnt .'Jy in fron* oT ' \' v'.-5'5 t^^'-at r« l<^.'sl tj. aur-^ .'-i . ily c'ffic rs vtojld b-'- r::c:jir.,-il in t.\;i ••^rti^ii.r.r .--x..,.!. He- t'id r^-^fai it that mo ai^-ra^jn cffSc-ro li th:. r.^n' -,' Jv; ;. ";•/ '.-'.l;:, in thj nJsl.Va «vj l:f, Lgwsors cl:*n a^"-..cJ '.'i..-.v- r.33oid fc.^ G5^i,:;n!Hi In t?*-/ vicis-'ity pjaa fco a5si,-r^ d ^n Xh-: first v"ic.-5r, t'uat vii v*.^ulc svrj-ch th h-nd l^-!c. - Tm» w!va ''' isyckr lh>, «.*jraclio»"i oT Cxtain Frit:?, fei!-K> v».'^a cx«>--Tood in th; arc^a ifnoc'i/r.i'ly h hind tfv> K;©cJ li^io, end w-aa «J&.-v.> in thl;by c.f th-: Trcjsc.? ;;art juai incitf-.- ilv na to cbii.-r\'? ach jr>-» djvi'.-kral wh":} rrsl^rod lh> boUrJinf^, cr>d if ih r-'^ vvn.: c^rt.t.rii\-» oivnuiii fe? sofTticnvi thoy b/IIov -c' to Lj ir» ih:.ir ouhv.-rp.iv; filcto, t.'v yvj-aiiti survfjy &nd c^ ;c*: thn ftif U'. r, A tr^'»?^i of IH1 TrAc'v- {>rt v^a.-* »,'v..i.rv>d by rnt p-.:ati>JKil jandi- vili t;>,!k^.d with this if»divi^,ial. Slcvoo- en til k'.icj with hin o littlo Ic'.t.-r In t'vi proQj^r/C- /sf « ®t-^-al. At thia tlTj h J ttvat^ii h>j ^vaa ar»lj«-Castrn. J;t^.v-.?^ic'V!>rK:o, tv> v»ocld net L*.- p^T-^it^f-d to vlcplcy the fl^^ in rr.y nt^-w-f an it ccuid b.; Snt-:rpr?;tt-fd fX'>d toouid t:; ;ni.;-f.rut»ij aa intiDiaTtiing or -r-tarraa.'jiiXJ ti^o *'roait;».n4 or cnycnj f.;a'iir>i;2 a pii:Iic is{>[>:isr^-x>:i> or a pcCilic ^Ci.&S« At 7«Xj ©.ta* Fridsy, f!ovr3>:r 2^^, r^;>tain U, ff. ..kuVr r^'-sirtcd to tJv, Traii> f/^art to taJ^^ oCif.?.;«>fi cn^'ir •..•• 3. ,.r.y fra* tj?;idvk^ ff Traiiiu I'iXi et drowt 9-3^^- fu'i. At VMa t!rv> t,!>? rsijn had atcp';V:-d, Up-j*^ crrivaJ, h-^ dv c'<':-t! ':^ith foutof to miri? if a.-3oi0Ty:rita had b>jan o-^ireiod out o^icctr i.'ii:^^ ti p!co» H"? dlsccv-sr^^d that ttv^ birriai^'.^s O'-roJ^ij tl;? c'riv-r^ft;,-^ at Iho --ai:* .find 'X.ci of th.^ north >->ir/'t cxL-nJ t 'Jfocit th-. o.vrr.-^'i cf 1'/. .- huildirf> "n>.v i%arricr;-.d a v,- r r. -rfr^v^^Td to c.r*;:it ii-I-/ »ri.>J::;.to f 1 af-^a . ' frcw bo-'J^ v.Mclrs a-.:i ;?4;?:..:;vf sc^r-i by •:^Tt(jr.;.'Ir/j t'v. l;irrioi:.-->o xrvi-. th? \h aloe Hz-i t^3 tanrJcu-id-G Ti^r ih. pr- cs cl L'v. dr-.-rv^ry rri^^rr^.x -^d to contcin ii-vi rje-'zs, t'.» cr^.; cic. tf llw .±xjr cnly^ c»s he-: b.>n CLr;'' rc'c.u by ir, Usjson of tin..? Ci.cr-it :i.ri'io-i, Scxitc-r'^ csr vvtJG p??rkr:A-! in tl: h.r.,Vin p'Or'^-if;^ fr-."?. Irixdiatcly w-.ct cf . iru3 d..orwC.y vivrr. Uvi ir-oki-*-;* •.v.t-s tc enter, A ,;^'rtlr.xin rc'j ca;:!."- vd to th-- c.?i* tci Uat-:in to th ni-Jic c.^ C-r^r.n:-'l H, : :.t.i--.l3-r rrrl'-'r:^ 'iia ; irx SrTr.cliai-ly to Uvi ri^hi of th;a vchic!;; a-viJ pi;-. K}.<3 fii-iio tr* C-.-v I -.'-.,-• U Ji'D turri'-.J U->c v->Iuric> u^ ao ti-ct thi iitficr coci^n.-d to Su.'t.-rr'c c^r ADf^, a f'?r# ;,-.r:c.o piv-itx^'^n'^'-'^^ (*>.' rj-r.-; t^-scin four rr fK'^-) Vf-hicH ..^s.-l'r.ij ^d over iJ*.^ u'.:?, i}yy '•*:0 c.'. .; t:.c..; •:> y ccvlvf r/3t .-^^-t in ^^txxi vi .w of t>>'> Tr^sid-H-t nnd In.- !,;rriC'-.-': u, v^i:;-'^JT<]i c^r» l•^c ci:rb lir.v':, r.-Tti n::iv.x; ct'-jji ^^i ft it into !!>?- strc:t to alloa th:^i to otop 'it i>.-^i'3u» tlvj cGiicpy to tcw-a tfvjir pictijrei* "•hijijo f^>ot'r<'r^fhnt pvarixsro of tJ>* prrsJdvnti^l prcr tzirST* "nvr/ a-v^ if t?^7 ec-y!d fol'm tJ-^i »>i;Gjd'.nt in tr-cn hi a arrival cn^i WfT.-, ir&tructxi to £0 to tJV5 frort d&ir fcr .yit'/cnc-.?* fio d;jr-ction tissi rroa about 9*30 *•«• t» l^J nd lo ivl'no i-'cre. p-.:n; ;s!!.rirsr^c pacu. At tJiio tirr> aaf.« cf tfis cfficra wbu had b,-..i^ eujiir;- -d io t5v* int- f tor A cro^Ait of i'v'ctAtora rJi.;ciul fcur C.) i!..-,o J>a:'. c-.^izr^-A'^-d aloq; th,< iifirri- i^'rc.ynd 1U.X &."<•, a rar. Cin.^ ir. rrc>nt crrA of tJvj huUdir.,-; ej-.d t.;— li...: /^rii-j to n ci nt .< .rr, .'iy'** Uo*,^ cjl-3:rva..;cn5 it v.-ia notc-d ti-ai Ihia /,^s^ wua o.-^Hj-i^ th.^ao fjlifescrtia on tho prcy.Tiy oT tho Trr^c.:.; ''^--rU H-; v:a.i o.^nt^'-cc-d Ly Ll-rr-^-?5,"«l vO;;! Varn-^ir u:Jon Hvi inc^iruclixia ov^ :-;-.tr.!; .^ cj^d told tl-^t J>3 S could not C.41 pliiccrds en toa ^ro.-^'.r'Ly* /'bouv -.'.is '.I •vj il; ,ro v^^jt: also t.vo (2) no-n vslw af'irft.'i^^d up carryifT^ P^'-^'-^^'-- <''''ii'-'"- Vi-^ro S!s-iill«-:'>..r,r..;r'y in f«ituro« Th-.-y vj-rro on tJM prco^rty of -J.. ';'.';. V-irt. 5'.r« V:jilia-/j Occ^'ir, {.'^•xsi,;cr of th.i Tracii i'art, cj-j-^-ct-ci io 1"-. "^ b^^lrr; on hia prc.oixty .ond L5.td-.-:!'^r V5iv?r»t vsit}) I'r, Cof/.>cr ar-J c-r;l':v;tcd I'^-.o-i r.--n. It, Cco-cT Icid th vT ih:y coulJ not ^xnrry tho ph-^r^ua ^^-n th.ir ;>riv.-it.j pr.-.o-rty. ::-ataH:sIor &&jixyid t-Vrj iK-^i th;;y rTust ,';;::i en pulHc ^ircp riy cr ISi.-y ViCiild lv3 tr'-opaosin^. H-.-.-y lofl Uv: prcp-rty cr.-J «;.nt &-"f*-:--^s th.> stfc .i en Ifidisirial l-o.«jlovarc» L«i t, when it i-^d b.-n .'a".n<';unc';d en in.:- rr-.:'io tl-sat il-kj ^-'r<,oic'^;nt hnd b:>-.n SiX'tj tho3*:i r.tx> wd i!;r„o oU-jts £';:-t into en ^aTj'^u- rA;,nt vjiii'. &x:>ctjali:<'a iicroi^a tSa otro^ t, Tli -y aU w. tj arr.-ot.-w and la'ld;r. Dr.; r\cy i:or;'in3Joiaorj ;^13 Chriatcjh.'-.rj Crar.d Prairie, fi;;n i7« Th. o,- r.i-.vi^ «-..ro crVc;st-d ty urf :e ra ! T.* i.crd!nf:i? A-^d ::, ?'» rriP.I-'.y JS:-d d--nr£ud with lnv-cti.;ation C~:.iy r ftid C':;ptc.in i^» «• L«'yrc>nc-i. T:v-3 d.. in.il \^r,2 a-.-j i-^-'^icr.-.d ciir/.^^i.^jii. (ivX-) n--.n c«r>- p^Jiicd cf cn;.!-t;;rcyclo iA^rj^iia-^t cr^d fcur ('>) t^»r•^?-tvhJ2l rx-tcrc^^jio officora had r«5ortcd fr^ i'-Kj purpK-iiSf^ c\ p'^zisx '^•'> ?-'ar!"i3 he/.* r.:fi coofr'^'^rf eccnrdint; to ~iJ to p£\ir.;-« rifj-<.«'.v«J'. r«>r o*-,tjj*iiy. 1 T'iiirly-.h.!kt O) of Tiers, «3r>cr,;2 vi4>io^ w.-.r;' U.r -^'.'i vi ir^,!..:rcycl'j cTnc.ro aj-ja 'Xfi'^ c-ra havsro7 cnra v^'v) xwT^^ A^-crrj-^'J ^j t/i parct*' rcut-i Teij^ > -'jcJ'-jr ird > ;•..' L^n^ iwd c'tfer Jprir^;.3 to <\%cjnc ^:? <'.?jrv;fv^d, Kod «•::»: ;;3rr.»-.r.to to rr.'X^rt to th-5 TfAd-i t'-urt ir^vidjatcly Aftor tlv.* T-w'crcafh- hr.d pr,nAef« This vaa fcr Iho pur^x>2-2 of CixvUir.lAi; v;:x\t vjr.s cj-qx.cv.d to b-a larrr. ar..-^'/f!c, cf !v:w;>iv> «5lur^ t5>j brvi'T of Stc/f.-Virs Fr»; .vv;»y Corvio >'>-»?.d nr»d !r.vA-*r.lrini uml'/w-crd* Tli.:!>> c^nc* of fie ra hrd t'iir>J ^a3i:,nrni;:jnt9 eftcf th.i iurrf>-i:,on 2(t t*>j Tra',*-.f .'-^art alor^ Kif>.o ax' ;.'>c-'-i:>;bir4J D^^a \iM\&i wex! thr> r^-turn roijto to Lov« FiolrJ. M»yt v:20 «.f-M ?^ov.rtb?r ;r?, l?53s I r^Ay Chi-.f G. L. Ltrnkiii, ^iru-ti by fi^-^jcic.. ;-V:t?-clivta r, ^-, Tiirn-.r .;."i-j ;:• L* :> '.V<*:1 end it • (J^ic-r.-?! C-.- c^Tf^c T, U» 5, ^Dy, !..oU..V3 :;>wU-^.c cU :n 0^pr'..Tr'.i.--rj -J>rijc<:v>.d-.d ii> L-^a' \iuv;;.';' riJd cv^r tK? rot;tc, oss pi let c^^Tj to b> trtlri-r* by th^ froeidnt on ths rctwrn trip. At this ti.^-. r-l.c-tivvs v'.fV<,;l fif»d Turner or.i O^lcncl v-Ml- f^;>'3r «rtT^* to!o that c-jr wi^sion -.^-.-yld !;.• trj trfw-^l Vrry r.otGrc:ad> ro<^t« froo Lovij Fivild to tiv^ Trcd f-'art, Th-y w.ro jr.Jiirvi-itvd ^n vKrijld trftv?>l i eyjirox;.-,ivt.'ly crx>—f -^ir Ih (lA) f^^Sl-j dv-^oH of t'^- rMrreacV, an/J tSat v^o vvc^jJd bi al'.irt fcr f.*?tc'r v.ohicls .lotic' r.ta, flr^a a-.d cJ:>atr\;5ticv'»5 ^tlcrig t^i'1 rc>ut<3!% i.*o VKJuld rujjorl enyiS:r>;^ vio c.l3..rv\,-cf ir* thu* crcud cr ^long tha route t^ai vauld b~^ 6Arin£;i3il tvo tJv, i-ain :>jrty. :^-o»c»yl^i.i'»if> .&« s •cs.trjty R^^tti^ur^--*. «jntJ iiou-ld cr.ylhin^> aria^^ tk-it, in ct.-f .yv.inics.^, r;i'>.t arj^/.-.-? th*^ r-oteroad'! to L,^ at'vjpnd or to b« j>Jacc ir,7n.-;iy radiod by K l>^'s>;l f f to if-ts I'ind cor ooc^>iv!:! ly C^iiof 0» '• Ojrr/f '^ri^f U* '*• i.x-c--r3. tio CiRjnJ l'»-it tl*. .r-. i«id L^cn en or-ja rc;>,>d c^r outcsicr of tha frjTrfji-. %^'>r»> « rx« « '>r cf n-.v^'4-cp.-.r pJivtcv^-r^-^^^-j.^ra ha-J ccKt^rj.{^at.<(. '< J c-r.tctci'vd Ir* forroai v'-rrcU© cv^d ".r, L-^,Qcfi ^rr-d v/.-fo introc'uc'.d to -r. «^-^:4 r\ji-rvsir;h, 45 ^^v.-A.-rr cf i-;? •:;'ilo ;'...U3.^ St^ff, v^x-;?-; I'r. La.vcon 'I ^natti:.^"* in trool o* Cat^ i;V-f. A f-.w r.inutca iator, Ihn prcsidntiaJ pkvk* Kv><;.»'! c;nd if^iod lr>to |>;«ilion in ii-K: vicinity of Cat« SC-, Tho prvi>i'ir t:> ricb in tl>^ ri^ht front toat ^hioro Kb Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 578 could cfc^irNYi fro.") Vxt ri-'^t front cf tf>3 car, r- it.>ctlv'» in^r,! to rids jfi ti->a IcTl rr.ir c*-^l to cbftorv^-i fr.-yi tho loft r«vr cf thn c^r. ..hit-? h'^cu!*? Staff tVf-d;rfr Futi^rvau^.S v»na R-Atod in th? rirht rc^sr 6»>f.t to Gn«5isi in tha ciisjarvations, end Lirutr?vint Colartr^l ^"^"li'o^y^r in t>\e cnt r in tSrtr«5r ftjr-iat to cbosrv<»« At this t5'>5, w-n nov. d th,i pilot car to th-^ fi^ld ^^xit o<.'5;r>?fflt C :<*ir 'Jprinf^ij, ano o»-*aitnc' '*crd frwi Chiof J, r, Curry that iho prrtid-ntjal pnrty had ot^vrt^^d r3cvir;;r out. Upon rrc Ivirr- t/ifd frvs Ch{««f Corry that tha rxtorcnrfj khxh mcvinj^ ot ^>oyt «> ''i-? '*-t pr<>ci>od*d • to ko p a dietATkcs of atsoot orxi-fourth (!/*) lailw or «bcut 3 nsnutcsi a- head of thi» cwtoroadi* Upon r<^nchinn f'odar^f^bird Lanu, wi r^djod for a rotorcyclcj aa th?re vr.n^ a slight traffic co-x-cotion, ivUich vj-is cJ'^ar d u;>» ' pr«>c- d.d <:?<>: ir»~- =^^ bird Laa^'i to L-^rrn^n Av.:-rv5j-.T, At L- i-r^cn / and '.iv*;'^, v;; ro.'ioc' tivit vo n--i'.4av?vd» Wt) proc'^.'djd L ;t?r!on Ay^intw to Turtlo Crsrk, Ti>i crcf^d incrx^ad ccraid-r- ably* Thife inforoalicn tr;aa rcdJod to ih-^ l-x'^.d cor, Th.:n fro;-. Turtle Crook to ti'.iinr 'iprirr.s, O.-.-JSr Sprirrs to Mtr;icoo, vih-rc oil p^nrkinn ^*2l^ b«>rf> r.-.nov'^d fron tJ»>-- otr'-rtts and th c:^Toic-;r^t.bJ« crcvid t»a vr.ry crd rly* Hana^ood itr«u3tcn sr.d ri« Street end rtotificd thi rrvin wcrkinn traffic ftt that corner that Urs sotofcado wass about 2 or 3 tniriuism behind u9* K? proco-d-'d to fin 3troTvt, to Ott'rTVT.a Kpr.^ts.<»(.'K5y, Th. r« wcra cars perkad = on ths si«V>uld(jr on Gt')^^^^^* Lx;jrcs'^...v/ end Gc;rKt sijy.5, but etayir^ on ochr?djl'3 r'triorkably »?.ll« About halfway to tha Trad- J'^ort on it:ir^^Tor:a rxDrrrGSRvv^y, at S2s3l ?•«•> Chiuf J. C* Currv trcTOTitt'-d en C5.;r.)Vii it, '';':3 tc tha hrcpital, ?arklaid ^bapital, Kavo thii to st>:o^d by"# "^ust a r^/) on top of tho cv^rpaso end ao« what hrppwn-d u? thirc." Rnc'io trtiffic vicia h^vsvy at this point* 5i^ slos^Kd ih^ pilot cor dswn In ps'f.paretion of taJ-ans MsMt* ofii^ Action ttfta cLt^inQd nccaassary by th-? Chlssf* Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 579 L'v;:;,i'!in •?vC:ri--.d iroiri;ctirj«-,a of Ot.i~f .J;^fry in tfi'> lend czT, crui >^rry Vic-^ r. »id-nt*a ar^c' Cfjv-ral cii-. j" car© of tn ^ roturaad;. at a Coc'j 3 C;>on crrivaJ cil tSj hos^-Jitai, It vkwi obs-rvwcS tr«j> Pr aid.nt vt.r»^ tvirv^ i,v;<«.n froTT thj car c^ici ir.to ';hj huSjTiitaU At tfet lir^r, Luip'in ca-vj^oat/ac 4'i Curry t;%.lt h.-, t-^-kij th.v f'/iv-icjdi I/et.r^tivf.si fcacJ'. to 1 lrr> 5/^orth.'r.al ccrn;r cf »r, and Hv^usitoo . itr-..ta. Lvon arrival nt th,^ T.jkuj iichao! t ;^>'' T: .ycniiaryf w. fou>«i that lrie;>-C;lor J, f<, fCSi/r was in fro-.t ci* th; l:.ui i'--;rv; rsid, %iih ?i3si iitanc v frcr-. oth-.r crfic-ra, t^aa in th.i p-fc-crja cf d.tainjr'.;;; f>v.:rycn'j v/ho {uid ®ny iTw-vl-ji'^rj Vi?'^t30.-;v r of tivji sJ^^>c*ir'.^d with X5t»yer. '•? c!.cic:-.>«J tivjvt w^ wsouid G:t ein .-n:i l'.-;v.iten to fcn h:.id for : furthiJ* int.rroraUsy!. ^'ofrJciiJ. : .t cUv-^ r. ."• 'urri' -w.-a sT.t to the* •v^-> riff's CTfic.- to rcprnu.'Tit th^ tlcirncid* &n.i T-ct!: .ry Cur-.-istJ cf th'., l-aUaa PoHco l:pwri-rr)t if> int^-rro-etir.;;; th..o<: wiin-^^'-j. r-it'.<:ttvvi C.L, S.nk^ii »as rd --.auvKsd bad-t to Captain Tfita to ar^sict in th:> invcstiration* Swy-if h«d pl»c:d cuarda en ths buUdirs;;- lo pr -v-.rvt fiv^y::>f;> frc^j *** C^^ cr cca^irv^ out* Co-vy-r cr:;;.Gr>is< d a c.Uiil l auto- ^.:;i4ca en ths pfTkirr lot currcur^din-* tS;. T >c.>s ikiJxvjil C'o&k r-ipcsitc-ry CuilJirf-, tc^-.irr; ti'-ir n^xrij tc^IcpK-^-^t rwn'L-'.rs, o-'-'r-z^-a^ (^n-ci plas™ of crployt.-^iMj anrj'Sat:;r u% in th-j dfi-rnfjOJi thcc v hici^a U-;at w^r--; not • tn'<'-,-n cut w-ru- c^.c^-:•d for lic.n3.-5 nu-.U-r. S .v-rai ryr^'ro cf il-'-i United Stat«.rO Alcchcl Tax Unit aaeisted in th-; a^^^xcJu At tt-sat tire'; Lur/c>kin i^.t-.rod th-; buiJo'irr Gn3 instruct- 1! t'v-t it b- Cvd- plot-:iy «'.-<» 'rd f.-rr, thfit r>c» c>n.'i bs allcw;^d to I-.t<.vv cr t.rl r, Li^ ui r-or.t i i-rich >'^nr:c>i viaa plv'>c.:cJ on th.j ifT;„r c-cor or xh' fcuildin-;:, €r»d Litutcrw er.t Jauk -viii, tc<_;.'th.r with Tct .ctivc H, H. l\j.vis, «Jr» ciivi >.t-.<:ti'irs ?- Tcxrr-y Ttrii':ina anrf fc.:v.ral otht-r ti:t;ctJvc3j \s r;i irjstrtxi^d td ci'-ar th«? tijiicir,^ of u^-sicyc.-s by of fie.-, and floor by fio^r. A3 each off ioi aoii floor jstaa ciccir.;d, th.- .-i'plo/cv-s wcr'.^ atcpi-x-^ by f'sa-aii'Uilci find tr« Truly, narAQ'sr of tiv."* firfis, at'th« fror.t tkx;r «*;jr^ Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued , 580 w.yroic: .ntifi.:'d by ^r. ^T-S^y f:^% to tl-vjr tv'pioyn,.«t. As tK-A*.> cfvylc/y-- .^i « ro taVn Trctn th.ir pk*'-- of «*:,»'!< ^ th;- ar.a \/;i>a a^archcd by n',!viU*4 Unirom:.d r-n vtzr^. pcct-d en thi aii^irAryt! and -jlovatcra to aU-r« no o-n, wit'A th-j cxc.:/?M^n cf ;ioHc'. cf fie rs, tc jrr^c:;. A Tm r:inyt<>a aft-r RTriviil -it t?v- buii<• Truly, bui tdinQ rsinA;"'"'*, wnnt to Lir-,r':ifi cruj ctiit-.ti thiT.t hi ^^ci aj-^vr- i!>r-:^rrcitH.r, Vvtt oni- of hiu c/.plcy^:;8 IK^t ^^.d fc'X-n tiV.Tt) «r.til a ?«< f*.irut;*fi «,r \izu myn .'.-ic:jipr> LurA;>ki»^ i,'.y>-j: 5/r» Truly to th'; sixth flu^r i-^^ h-- •,.•;.. inlro<''.;;^-d J-:^:? io TrUz, j-k^njcjc-, end Tct-b^.-ry Dur aau* t-'r. Truly r ;la\.:c tivn fcuiic'jn^ \»a clc-csTr^^ it •afig i*;l'-'r".sf} .ri by Fritz An«! s^vf-ra! f-ta--i- <.id- i>;i;--ctiv*.^ tJ-iT.t th; rJv.ta vs-r-i fir'.'-;i frr^-« c. vjir.djw* on tiv^ &::uth <-^t <:xrri>r cf xh-. £ii<:€-\ ficuvr, vvSrr ? ihr^i crriri&y (X\^:ii ^cr-j fcu--^. Ux-i-'.jn tuiidin;^ en tS; fflijuth f jc^jT crjd «."!,'..! a sy-'it.-;':wi.ic £;^rj*ch frf/i o, cri*t-.-3, boo-x, etc* 'a v^^ri^^r <;" .>,vEn*o is-cTd;;;.;' ,''crty, i>?rv;ris ca-i^jotios's of th^ ^.£rd^f CcAg\'J ibj riflo tlvat vsaa ti-ou:;/r,t to hsv^ fo.''^ vKy:\Li, ra'iaa PoHo/ I^.partrr-.nt Crirr^ Scx-rt.;-, G-r^ch d-tail indr Li-Mi'-^inni Corl 1;:^ md Lit-.-ctlvM r<, L« Stuc.'.V-'<.-i' «rriv.:d &;x-rt.-y jr-.d b-/^.':s^. pfcc.s.'^-in-;;: for t^ividnco^ Ih.i bailcir^". it ftsia ?5ot hnoan at Ihir, tiw-. t-h-thi-r cr rot Iho poraon firjj^ tho v±»ta v>sa hift luilainQ or hiii cosia,'5ad, 0. f. J-N/S'-in fo ofrrni?^ a s^-^^srd'j crv:« vine fc-f^jn of) G^-r«jGt<-v-i L«ti4;tcr*vT?it ^h-. of fir .r.-n's 5ai:j7f3 a;->d l:';;^!>ts;j r;i.J;lr,"3 a corplct** rc^^r vtitfi tK:? i?.id rr-'J cyc'i'-ribtic oc^yds fr-^'s Uv. fiy-f to th t.-o^^n-ntj p^ostsf^* a rcn on cau:^ : ^1-ijA' aftc*' ih-.-* 8v'«rch waa cxv.pic;! to iui r.o on-5 b&:J< in f'wcr-pt police !';j offioHTa, tu"p<^iil to orr.rviiia'S a K.-.ardn n/o-^--, vi--r:n hi- r.-.arcS in t'->j lvaorv"f)t fnd tr-.'&rd'i to thy« M? dio' fKit £>::l in th v/ay i «r.d v«aa vTy cco,'>^;rntiv*:j vsith th:. cffic-,rQ c^^rcHxlirvr' thi sj;-.arch* All otivKT pi:ircn«, lnciudir<2 th^: pi-cr-c* "Siasi k.ijit oyteidi tho tuiidif^ until Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 — Continued 581 ihi oonptdia ^st^xnatlo •ciard) woo cAch for tha «ua(>^)ci end until ft cntrch ha«! bc>i«i »ad^ fur p^ysicai (widay, Lortc^ctivy Pt. L« otui>.baJ'.'rr ond i>^tiio» tJ>A> %J, H, Hicka, hal*>d In or»c group on tho! outaidi of tha tuilriifxi* Thsy w n ocscornpanlcd by t»o police ctficzf to ti^o cixth floor, Utjpt outoicij of & linn vihr.n Uvo Crino Sosr.-! S.:.Qrdi waa dusting for fing-rprinta, ee^d sLlh^-^ai to ta'<>^ pictur««« ttr^pkjn tlv*i had tHi polic.'^ eocort tho n'**5»>cn bf?-ck to tfv/ first floor o}vJ'<3 tlvr/ lntor» vir.^d Mr* Truly fcrlofly> and -^^occrt d out«i<:b: Uvi tuilding end M>^ bultd* ir^ <»sut lockod* t*^ otmr r^qi^fsta «cri> g^anttaid At that tln@> Cuorda t»«ro pii^^ on ftU «ntr«ir>c>fa of thu building. i^tthat tl(r»| LuK^kin roleaa«3d •!) traffic and radio patrol»on ^}jarditx^ erotnd the building^ with tha e>«c.;9tion of tha £,njBrci» on tha dcora* Sa»» yor and Lunftkin r^tunv^d to Pol lea M adf^jort^s* At aipj>roxl?»ately I2i35 p*ra*, l>;p«ty Chief «• '«• Stsv<^^ao«, who waa «t ths Trad^ t-'isrt, ««a ot*/lo^d by Cnplain J« t-« S'sul^r and I^hvm Cr^s^t, 3.'or«i S-irvi *i A{j'3it| tl'J&t tl>05 Prc^ld-jnt hnd be^sn hit* St.-ivt>nsKin «£»^:od whoru it occurred and thi^y a&id n-aar tha Trlplo Und^rjjaaa on Clr?! Sirot) tmd that th^y wero 'inrout> to i'orkiond lloqpital «lth tha Preaidartt* iJtev^nson ir^xKJiat^ly notlfiod Caj'>taln J* ii^* Frits, lii(riicld» Cor&au, and tvio ^kAicIdd dH^tivc^ rcli'2V3^d thoei of th^jlr oooigrwant and placed fritz In chorga of the Invaati^ation* Aa aoof) ae p{»2aiblo^ Stt^vnnoon releoac^d fourt<^:^ (lU) oth^ dottiiCtiv-sa end ai^srvic»ry p^trscnntil of tha ditc<:tlveQ cff icoj inatructcd ihra to notify h'-adquartcira thet thoy wsara en ih.< ftir r&ady for cis4i,r?^jnta> and If not othoTwloo Inctructod frcn h >s.dquart^re| to r*^rt to Im and ^k>uetfln -^ Strwita to aalat In tho ^**jrch cf Ih^ buildirg, as it v«io rc.|>crV-id at t*%at timo thiro isea a po(^ibiiity the au«^}oct >«iaa otiU in tho tuUdine* Aa ocon ©25 it eata do^torainrd <*ifinlta»y tl\at thvs pr«ci«cbntlal pcrty xtould r»t arrlvo at th« Troda liart, thy errvoyno'^^nt wao tm&j by 5>t» .'rich Johr.coo and tha crcad b^,an an ord-rly hhH frow Ih-j biildin^, SUvmaon cxr.iactod th« Captains In diargji on tha varioya floors, inetructir^ th<:« to r'j:loes0 ©scurity p^srsorrial \^ii:,r ih^ir caf^aand to rc{»rt fs:r dity. ia^ to rvitaio only vt^t waa noceaaary to o;&»l9t In tho ord;>rly ««it frcw th^ buUdine o^ ^ crowd* :« Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 — Continued 582 Afl«* tlVf (tucota hadcxUi^d tree* th*) Tratii t'ort, SiUjvr'rwao and liatdvilcr <»i^id.>d to go to i'ttrklonti Jb>aj>ital to ch c.'< en thi aitualion* Th'.y wiT?* approc^^d by tV, LutJvor tkil t^s a p<;f6or,(\l fri<-^d of C^M^riic/r ConrwUv and hi« farsiiy oni, if poa^aibl, lv> t»oiia) end ocntact U»<5 fonily to d; «irhat h-s 43Ciuid to rcnd-r ta^:)! ritual coptfort* i>r« Hoioc«"b ecconpanl&d £iatch«Qn to the hospital* Upon Mv* arrival of Satdvilor and St:.v>.y%aan at Uv; hospital » iltty fcund tnnt »'r. totmon of th** S.^cr5t S.rvic had errojTgod ft cowoy of j>=i<5pl<» ; fren tKi 0hito Hou/oa Staff and fthit'O !bi«w pTeaa ta e^sowpcx^ th:> fcoify of tho Preidid^t to lova Flnld. fh had A notoroycisi ^ecort^ but had no raJio ccr«%micaiion in tha ra of tH' sihito Kotm.; prc'Bs did r»t loav^i with th:> *:'^<>M?* i^aich^vl^^ radic»d & jnotorcycla officer «6ho waa at iha roar of Uvs cara to riilurn to thi> hocpital and of tlva bua* e/8iit ths dcpor tuTfii • Th^ croKp wriv^sj ct tovj Fiald a^sr s tbi Pr»'.»id:nt'a hcf tli* $:cr '-^^'^ T, f^Ji.ia «a9 cp» h:r ««iy to tcvo Fitivld to adilnislcr t^f'» caUi of offioa to tY^sid^t Jtihwfcn. ArrafB;^.tc^rjt« ^srai raada for h-^r acinis^ion to tha f ielc'i with off i CUTS ft'^curir^ tho drivc«ay» ^tdwlor and Stav«^«on Uft th« fisald aftnr thi?!. d;p«rt«r^ of ths presi- dential pieni'» Th.y rnturn^^ to ?ca^tcl err oaitcd In lSr:> clay- ing of i>rfic^l»\t: csocaftilat-jd, it cpj):iorad hi »aa poa«itly thts ouajVact *tK> h&jii ©lain tJvs iycai,ro h«,.d.d« Thi ti;ird lv-sic'<:fcsrt.rs i^Glrcl platouj £s-,n had UiU called hod>i for jsicurity fcr ii>„- variiica f;^eaJa of th-a f¥uaid'*»t*o visit. Aft^r Ihcy had b .;« relieved fraa Hvx^n ascic/rv^ta, th-*y r'^jjortcd to th;^ PoUoi {kjadqucirt-jra end r.llev.-«d Uva *=cc.-(d platoon of thjiir r^^rwal a*.->:r;'"*i'Xjta« 'h.> &xx}r,,xita» St'svrfwwM arrived at t^oUoa H»en i eaoin^od in thw haltvoy for ord^^r end a.jcurlty. Eatdh* lor noted a n^tur of wwsitlKTia<;d pao^jln in tno hali«ay, BToatly I I city ii?^>k>y^:ia v^ ajxxsrtnlly v»ord> t!iyr-j tA;t of es^iaoiiy* jWj ir.a* ruot^ed I Vrui SiCj- jOTii to c^tsin tscir^s iKsn fr»i tJv* pool and to nrvyw p^^racna v^ I had nj» Li«;lnc)« ond atainvtsy mirervsfj «nd to «Uctt only ©uthoria-sd jK.r5««>jl to I f: tauter tSa floor, T»o (2) unifoni»d offic*'.ra wc.rij alao «3oi/:jn^d at tlw i (i>{>naGy of th«j Mo»aicld* iksru-su to hclii boid< wrjrfcori of th«» pTcsm fcr Uw • crjtrjinc4> end 'axlt of witn-.33tt3a« on duty at Kyadquartfvra oeid in closes tcudh with iha Stt*v:)rrf»oo r;y3aln«>d invest ir-ati en aa it waa ccs^rlKjtcd. At ap-jm-^irraijly 7iC0 p»n«, cterroo t«vr« fif..«d ce^ainot t'>-; H. Cavald f«r tho riufd r of j^oUc* Cffier d. D, 7i.r>r)it« Th c» dvarr ® '^fiif" filfid with a reprvMScniativo of tho District AtVoriv.y'a CTfioj OV, Cill Alyxand^r)* «Ajstioj of Uvi Pc«o<» Ilovid Johnson arrai.-kid 0«aald on tlvj d-fcr^Q* SKiTtly fci^fcr® nicblT'ht, Stovu'nQcn tsas adwio^id by HoMieidi ofria-jr* that cajfficlf^nt -.svid-ncr* had hsm cath^rcd that it v;aa dutt;mlar;d ii-ni Co'jald ^ WM olao recponaibia for t^«s alayiir^ of i^r^aidcnt fksnnady, that tJjo uvl- i iJenco hoid b«»;a> r«vl«B»©d by Ciatricl Atton^ay lisnry fead'> and Aswilatent EU—>u.»^ — . ,. ,;,. ,.-,.,->. "'' "''' Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 584 Bisti ct Atlofiviy Bill Altsjondx and cMrcos w»r« b^ifTQ j>ref erred :v:«lnot Camlcj in tho tixitJi of fVooic'cnt K.yifiidy. A »!;ort lima aflor diTurc-t^a woro filed, Oawald waa la!»\'!n to iha Acyy/.iijiy Jioom in tlvj t.aci.n(iys,nl of tho PoUco Ouildiixj for a chcMup* Justico of tlio PcTvCj Cavld tJo5\naon crrainod Co- Wffitid at l»3I> «unu, MovorriicT 23, I9f'»3, in Iho ldr(lif»ca.tlon fcfcroau cf Iho PoUca Dyprirtn>Qnt» Cawrtiid \iaiis rcfnandid witlvout Lond. Prior to thia ticu. CtSL^iald t\ad boon ©ha»a up ojveral times to vaitnocis.a \6{>o placed hira in tho buildir^ at ihi tiwo tbj Frtasidetit v«a3 clain, cr^d alao to witnoftsoa ao iha alayor of Officer Tippit, Aftor the:* crrairRcnt of Ocwald. ho viaa roturncd to ihi City Jail undor ^tjard wb*;r<} ho rrr^iinsd for Uva nicht. Cn tJovcf±Jodiatc,ly en tlvj Crir^a Sccno iJtyarch ocais ci:ctch of both tho aroa of Cfficor Tipr>it'o rAirdiiV and th« choot-' Inji; of tho Prcaidant. Th„y worw alcw inalructod tlwit p^r:^rt^ m.ckir^ infcrnation would be r«forrtjd to Captain Kinj7;*3 offic*?, and that the (k>or of tivbi Idaitificotlon Curoou would ba kept IctciicnJ and all pcroona vwuld bo kopt out oxtf.fit thooo officN-ira on official ckity ©o as not to interfore with tho oolUotion of evid':^co in tlviaa ivto casco. Tho Platoon Llcutcrws^t vstaa inotructod that tiv^ira vt^uld bo no rcpcrtcra or photorraphora within tho City tiail propijr a'ld th^a euopact, L^-s Casald, in a naxif^an oocurity c<:^ll in F ClocJ: on tha fifth floor w»-)uld b'» k<^pt «ith a police C'jsrd on tlw outside of the- call cpp fotjrth floor. This was to k^yp tha public frca ths third floor duriixj iho invoeti^ation of too Ognald* Captain Ccorj^o Dovj^nhty vmss also instruct id to !%« .sp wfvat poraonnol en dity sa waa ntioaasary in tha Criiao Soana ikarch Siiction and vrm Identification Section to proooaa cvidsnoo bolng broMQht in by iho Criminal fRvcatigation Division. Ma »aa furthor instructed that th« ovidonco would not bo dicj- ouaood with enyono oxo^pt officoro working on th-j caoo vtithcut pcrmieaion frcert tho chiof offio^r. Tho rcftjiind-jT of tho crtranirvj, intil 3*00 A»a,f fiovorfcoT 23» 1903> ^^f^ Lurpicin cloood hio offio? to £o honn, \vaa ^>ont in rondirir^ any acaio- tssfvso pooaiblo frcra a carvico atanc^int. r&cilitioa of this dcportnont and tfio adiinistrativo officcjc wera rada available to th-i Socrct S:.rvloo of.d F.D.I. Af^onto. Tfioy rer.vilnod on duty in Catch.;lor'a offioo, loGvlng at approxirMoly S'^^O a.m. Stc-vonocn r«:;:aincd on duty at huad«juart»jra throuf;;I-«.ut tho nirht with tho cbtoctivaa stsmdlng by to fol lew up or to d^ocJ< any information whlcJi sni/^ht bo ro- oHslvcd in connoctlcn vjith tho aassasoi nation of Prooidjftt Kenr, idy or clay- ing of Officer Tippit. Ha loft headquarters at approximately 12x35 ?•«• on th« ^rd. of Kovowbor and roturncd at approxlimtoly 7»C0 p.m. on f;ove»»- b«r 2Qrd, Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053— Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI- >^ / I*, iri ;.'r:. cci3i trvctvir^ <''A*-ild isyid tlv.- isi'iyjrr v.* ;-t ^..i ' nt i' ijtv.-Jy i'MV^.'. . " " '>^'I-:tt TjoX€kv)\cjf ftv-oXiy'A or* dj'iy Uiiil 3*^ Q.«*« ^"C; '^kriy f-a-vard-.y .':Kmir<:;i, fji';;*A,s?t---ir 3$ ^93^ ^''v^ iw-.^tir^trlSs-in vsp.s ^xr^UrsU'-id l5:-puty Chi'jf C, L# LtrtvK^in arriv<;;d at ilvs off ict rr!.«»xid cs.lij cs^n, on ?::iv-.iri- anj ^.-vic'TXS.? of l-c;? wia-^^iJ Ci:i;v># 11-. cLv.> di ,, .. . . ,:. ih •. in Uf-- jc:ii CiTfd Jail ofricx?, end to riiCi<\^f:^ my r.:j:aldr./<® Cfrica to ausc.vrtr^irs vji>.tt'*:-T c^ r»&i il>:y Kid Jk. th i*) r:,';Tiin'^d «» di'W to bo e^\iki;*o for Cfiy aaoiiii':"^::*^.: «:>!' a-i^ij--^;-?- ti^xtiivu duti'r^ G3 was ryajj-^isaisry^ nrt^ d> ci'.ivv:; t'vj! a-.ctafUy of ih: pric^ncr in tho jaii «ith thx ^ittioon Cjrranojr^ Lu."i>;in vj^sfii hj^Ai i^i\,^X 9*3^ ?»^"w Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 586 Vi Is-r^y truc'it ooald cottfs bui v«suld find out th^ w«aoi f.r'^;airw-' nr.«5la «avJ c^all *.r» F|.;rii.Xj Ivtsdu i'^idv.lc^ c;«/c-;,rT>ur>^:d frcss T-^-piA-j iJiiof ss^d so tnfyo>.vJ \:.ft Flor.iir^. said f'f. Fiti.iir^; Uvs h.- woi;Ic! o-urid b.-/vh c-.uli tsnd ih-i Jsr}>3 trtKi'i end *»« icr-HiitJ iiw ou* aV-ic:-. rr, Fi'tnirfj slalc^d i:%av h -^vutAd dstain ;:Jriv..ra esvi n-^ to th^ir o/Tic^^ ifry.-'^icil-ly a«-i-i jnilis'.tiv:, *-*5d di'~ p-ity.-'w' tcln jj'oiiC-. cfricrrs ©rid p-oHc: r s-^n-'jiiiji in ih:.- i:a::i^'^:rii to iso- fv>ijx< i^^ orrjcT tslaliorvKj en th:^ City I'^H cl-:\Tdcr:j caJ cocid s. ooi tit tc> ln:p Tain wtr:?;--t ra'^f>i» t;$.idrAi:^ «vTi to Uio iv;> c? iiv.; of th;- Cv-?v:)r.;rc: and ob^:'rv.>d a rir£'.:r of ofric.:;ra in fra-it cf thia Str-v.:t rofi^J r.i-iTi ia^'i it-j frofil cf Vo; t^Uc-< firvd QcH«rta Suil.iir^* Ih vraa told by a ."•. -^ rv c;^/crvi«>c;rj b';.'Jlcvud ia hav;^ fccvT> C^^.ptain ^n>'iit, Ij-^ii th-.y had r-:v'c all Cfj-ctftlcra lo ihi (x^uUi si a,- of Csr^^rcsi IVir^jt. Ji. c-w&.rvjd -Jiat iiJia ha J to in ooo*?. tiatdvjluT cava at::V:j«afcn rcturrt-id to t!Vi Acini n» C..^'^3;-rc~- Citr«'>-2t sicLj i^f ih. i\.'Uc,:,' Duilcjn-* Lad'- thicj into tiKi o>:lt ra^ip to t;'»o ta3(.f>>^t. Aftor Tr, ri-r-iir?^ haii caii:>dj tistd^^ioi" i^4 3t<>V'-«scn I *; t'.iic; ti.:^ IH-'-rv'/i^jn in^tnjct^-d Captain i'.-. A, 0-r;--Ci to j';;c io I've Ckry-^^rc:. 5^ Sire t r£;p arj«i ^^va t5.>o (.'i) offici^a lo fiujaiot tlv; rjrr :;:*:: trw.; ir- Lock- - f it^~ c wt-j th.> ra-.rt rvs fcisr as it coylil qo« also irictv-'v-'jiv.-! .- ••:-'::.ir\ oi>© '»r.'. ^ki^t&'c^ c-y J-.t,r:lsvv;3 availd^lo- en ih-;." Ihird fio^T t~ t'.- lev. -; rrl a.-iri > ". Vw.T.- if .T^J vr;-nl fccj&'-i 6s:m ih^i 7zt')i[i ss\d tTfA Captiin 7:;ir:<^t5 £atd>. ior ur:d Sl^vonsx* u^r^ ausJxcd by Cuaruj} wcr^» pl^act^d on iha rxil cJocra frojr. t!vj Jail Cffico «ith lr>atrucli«3na lf«jt fsJ>:)toqrci^v-r9 wouiJ not bo alUftcd in ti^at cr «:;€;• As tb<5 pholcjTOj-^J-icro i^-Tv-iii into iiv: rav cr,^, eK^-Ki cTlftvd to th-v ri;^hi a"»d «s'jfn<.> to the left* At thlc iin^f %j--rif,a ct&^T.d L:itchalor if it would ri^i be acvii^.blc2>cj> to th.^ norU> rstp or b-dnnd ii\^ railirx^ on Ih* '. uitchJcf aj^rc-U tl^t thia w«.«uid b<. b.st, Thta r?naininj'? d;t»r»td truest;. Thi n..vr^'>:sn wcro in^truct.s-i not to at- t':.«f}t to trjv-3 cioiS'j to tha prisoosT for th.v fti:rpi:jm of talking to hla or to tak<5 photo^rai^a. CJiief Curry*© car had b-x-n toJi;.^ frosi tlva baarir^ini end doa«t of ihy cjsil rerp tc k-ad the Ccanly Jail. Aaoifiti^.t Chiaf lialdv.icr ihcTi took hia car frota tSv? h-ao-rv^.-ntj .p c*'adi, Aft-.r th--^ d-riv-:r fcadtvid t;v> truc?< into th=i rsrx;^ with tJv,^ front W!v:-rift an-i c;^X^ of ths truck en {hi cutsidj, hi r:JOKTti.-:f>did to CatcH-j|or that it nc-t b<-i tak^jn cl-^csr ckAin lo ti'.?; cotico, H.i aaid th-j t.rtjina was cold and ih:: tnxic vt-'^a s^xtr^s^^^'ly h .-evy, end ii> fc-orcjd in j^Uins cut h?j «?r.tjld kill th;! r/itcr. Eatdv.iu- loo'*oil at U-« is^xuM tK:vi^.>,.'i^ tha Via.\\% of th.i rocrxi and the aid a of ihs truck csni founusibt'' for &iri-/^:s\c to cr;* r «rr l--av i, er.ti it vi«a d^citi.d t?-«3ii this v»n«ld b.j ihx b'-^st jj5?ihod. ^ih - true!-, if-^v^ l.:-fi \silh tH-^ back tt?i.i:.lQ en Ih^ slopir^; r^sp Gr,d tJvj. frant V5h'...la on th^j I';vvjl sic-.«6alk« Catchwior end Lj^utcr-usr^t ^>ert cfKiv-d tK.: back tteora of th,. trui^< end coarchjd it. Th-^y fourd tvso f-r4>ty ccld it.ii;'3« 'V^ crficr.r 'aos ploc d on Iho rii;ht ttldi of tl>:> truck b^.tvio-n th.v ivall and ta^> cffic-rs o.*i ihu Isft dida of Ihs trucJc b-Awo!^ ihi ?«;IU Catdv lor r.::fS!5iftv;d in th-j fcj5sc*a.>nt and St-iVjr;san rr.lurn?d to th:.^ third floor Aid vjf^t to the Mc^ioidr: C^^r vfiu wh;:rtj h:; w-s tic'viS' d ty Chi of Curry th>i duj to th trud< ea a d'>c£.7» It (Kis d-icidjd to uoa two r-;;Quler ^^^iad cars for thi traneiKftin^-;; end {^uafdifug of tha pristcf)&r« Tivi trud« aao to go «aot on Cof.r>arc3 io Control Stevenson Exhibit No. 5053 —Continued 589 I Exjirt;ssaK4/, rtc^ih en C'ifttral to f>lm end tt«at oo Mm to Iteuston and oouth I oTi iin. It wesa not to ^^t ^ th.5 Oall, but otntinyo past* Vn: car - bi-rjj-v? Ca^hj would cut off at tifiin :itr:.-t on C niral afui p>roc d to the G:;'*jniy^Oasl wj^i zn l^ln, tl^-^*t\ar;t Pi'.rc-i ^s;5a elno in the Jioricid^ «rric • fi.> vsaa intstrvcl^jd to tok-^' o cor, pcir>. it in frc^t of th* arncr«d triic'-: arsd sh-.n nWan ih) si^^-wil, hi viaa to l<:-2.d tJw erracjf.«i::«it, rablaif^^d hia ccr^ pick ;J cej 3 r/;usnt iVlnara «snd 'riaxoy vsr^^t cTov: 6ft>ur!d tho City ^iail to fsark hia car in front of th« errx^rfHi isnc? truck on Car^roi;* Str€n»t» At a;??rcxi"itii^ly ICsCO a*s3», 3i?v^^«scn inatrtwt&d th"> Ciur'aau Ccfr:«rd-!ra ir* tiv} CrjriircS Jnv^ati^aticfs division Uvat cU d-^tcctiv';;^ an d;iy in all aacie-'--*^ "-» i*iuid ©tarnj by in thwir tyr'^ai Tt^r poosibic* usa in ij^icurity t:^m^urn& in irs"t3f*.rrir.f> Casiald, Lu*?>-iin tV)d Gti.v'.^n^irj tlvji ^iT'.i to tba 6'jcriJ n^tff, \h} t'airci Ci^>iiin*a efric^, driSj-^-: a cup ef ccrpoo \3ith Ortitain 0, ''• Talb.rt. Tclbu-t csSca^ Itrs rcut-5 Uv: j>ri«sonor trcL-siVr isaa j^.,:-;; io isJxS to tJvi Co^a^iy «Jall« H.? was told t}>at th-ry would protaLly :'' j^ast en i>j--;r.'-rQ'^ to C.TitfiiSj ixjrth c« Cr.tral to f'&ift, vjc&t en lain to . is#« -^i-^r.ly \Ja»i» tJiat 15^3 <5v<:iSiJ0n {-sad not dofinStftly b^cr> d^tirninud. [ Trii> rt 'A.r.j^utT>c' tfiat £!« off ic r b. placd at wacl-» inli^s-ctioo on tha '^ ? A»i. to tn"« Cc/»^ly c.iii. Taltcrt st^.l^d €-j^t ;>;> '*ouid l^v® t^n (iO) t*',.i pid,ud ujj and &:i^'iiirtiii at tJv;a,; Intwraoclions* '""tcr tJ'irlin^- thv coffya, LuT^kin snd Stiv.:nsc« r.?liim.d to th; third i\.t^ tt.. r^ l.i y i'^-in-f,: r .ar cf Um Zo\3r.iy «>iii »h*ir:i errfinge- /t^fits i-^i: I -"Tj nadi 'niiit the Sheriff *s C fftcc to hav^ th> stojl gat'-^a " o- -" .; Oi. criv:r»ay i'^dlr^ to t'»o t;^:^ ck'Or of tho viaiK ^:^puty ' 'Z,,*iC • b. L'jr>a-'y vj/aa ftt t2« County »j.ail ^sih e i.-.f Ciarry in i'-hi Bj.-<.!icirf5 Cxsr .-ojy St.v--:ra;-)0 left tivi 3cr ^cuj fvit Utr^>Uin at socut 15 $15 a*^*^* '•^y i>oti^ tctorvi-c! th^ ulrrvator afid jf.-fit to t?>^> bttcx^cjnt* Li5r.7;>kin \ifaa acH/ifi^d oT the dva-v::; in pi£:n3 ort tho vsay to tlv? la!iir>-ir!t, Cri firriwal in t!v* ba'«:.«anl, Stjj^rjfii^n also in- fcrrv:d C^td'^iJor find «Jasica of th : chaip.^i in pk^fAC^ of irartj^Xirtin^ v'igvrfiid io t.V^ Ccu^ty vlaiU St':;i>'.na'.n ih st -Arccr-d^d s.c'c^c*a th-.^ oViva-»ay to tho ^i'vlr:svcc to tiS-K cpfccyi v^k>r^; i'vil,:<:tivi C, ;i« trcskn, drivinr; cra^ car, end r« tcciiv.^ C» vi» l^hcjrityj t^ivinj a ts.'Cor.d coi*, sera pn^^xirirtg t* pull th-a&j ccra onto th«j r<^tp behind th; csr?:x;r.jd triait, iitop-V^vwii a^^ia-ijo* the cfficjra on fr:.id to iha woat cid. of Ih-; ucuth reK,;)* LtK,rrity l*ic;ar of tiva car i&^oxsk ae^ (!) foot north of tbo ooulh «iail cMremc^ <^1U Sti-vflaotn v^aa «taidir^ docot cvun with Uv3 hin(v-'«» o^ ^^'^ rifi4^t front <.i>or, at tJia frwnt of ths rlfjht front femd-^'w Aa th-.i cer LijcipUin ^.aa atffl^iiiviS bsck^d into jTOoiticsn, Stcph^iwn oLof-rvod Caiptain fritz corninf^ from t>Vi Jaii <;fi"ic,. cbor, Hj in:»=diatflly cast hia «sy;:a to ifw overall ©--curliy of th^i officer* in tH>» boa^vyaant. «Xist prior to this tliits?, Livut-rranl w, Viij.;fiin3 haJ rviO?iv':.d a l./U;5hcjoo call frc!a^ LicAihrimi t«5j prisKJTKT. tfi«';jiir>o obo^rvcM his *^ii oievator d-sc-nding «ar«d atopjiingti and Captain fritz, the priaoivir ar.«J tfvj^ d«t'Xtivc,s nd-^rijirig. Viijsiina atcpfXi^i to th.j %kd\ Offtoi cJoor, Inta ilv> osrricbr ovtsida and 6irpf>:;d to thti north «icb of th-j door. Cs ir/^^^n t^v.> '.i!«va.tx?r dfsor tlvi qu:i«tiiwi wfia s^o^ '*i^ nv^xyihirtg nlrlnhV*^ 'Hi^-^ivMA aistiud that if Kj flcnswrrcd at ftll, h.5 atatt^d that ©vsTylhing v»i{i alright* K.j tfcrfja not s^iclfically rti!<5aU arus».;rif^» Bcfor*^ tlv;? offic'-ra cooortir^ Oaald r^usidh^-.ti thi fcnck cbc^ of thtj car, ^ts^i-ncon hnnrd o ^lot. Meitm^r ^izv.-js'^un cf Lur.p+^iin dss^arvcsd vii>o f irt^ th^j d>ot# Hatch^lcsr was Gt4indi<\^ on tl»3 '.; caro tl-^t vt^fa to carry ths d:t«:tivv23 mid tha prioc'JViT, with th* int'.r.tic*^ of rurxiing to iiw truck a^d clr>:9i«xi ^'^ tbors ir:n-;,,diato.ly that thi pri^^cr ccvvo ck?.*-}. Aa h^? Cvood iiv:Tjj Ofjftvt-orvi £!tc;-ut--t<;*, "h-i-Tfs lh,-y ccfa-T*^ js-^g* !}.atdv,.lor stffl'tf/d t-^uaird tha truck, ih^sct h, heard a ^^ot f irc-rj, he tu*n:d rxound %i> sc-a a ncEsa of m:a% hoklir^ «KJ»:>iinct on ti>j fiocr. ^'m-vjn-:^ r£L"> fran this £roi;ptpj> iiw '"ain Strw-t rspp* ^U- \s«3 foUt^'Xi Ly ©;VL^rcl otlicro, cith-r foUcx^ir^ or chasir^ hi«. The officer at ih.i top of th«) l^ain Street rzsosp puUctj hi$ piotol, w»nid It frae» &i4;i to aicb emi laaiii, "^ot bfisk dcA&n tJ«it rar^**» At tJws od of th« ^>olj Stsvcnecsn fiQCiin «iirt;>ctod hia att^/tiicn to tho djt-^^tivria «^y> !^d cuattiiiy of ths ata^v-ct aid oiiMrvid acvsfcil officers edMAiing & p':jr&Gru fb also cfcts:v ^roi/p c* orficura with a gun clsujpod in hi« hcsid, T1>:j poroon uJio «i^ eubJu%;d by thra offiooro at that tieaa Kaa» i£%i^c!iats.il trrie^» rjl^rinc ofdiif^:;*] an £rit)i«nc;3 calkai!, Siav.-naon ih'jA Vi^^^nt tacU cut onto Vy-i Tis-.^j told Uv:^ of fie- re xho ^rr-i oxitaininj; 'lb' crasd iiiat th.i pariy %hc did liS^^ siiiooti?^ wu in cuatsciy and t^rfxt thi/T't. \va3 rso furth ;r tro4ii4«i« Tl-tiip-.r©:.^ who <*id lb* a'rootlr^ waa tit'tan to U>i» fifth ricor JaiJ wh:;ro h>^ vma c3i^ip;>•^^J &-!d o.crchv.'d ccr.piott^ly. After th; cxK;i>:ci '.via ic^<^;n in- to thy Jail wffSoj siti.v.noon if-fsTd £s^ officr r»i^^s Ut? rcjtirk "it's viack Hiiby''. C-£»aIc' tms trcini^rDriod to P2rkl»"Ki rbapilal cy;-2a:p»?/ii'vd by Mooi- cid. offic TO iv.'J addilif^al offictiro foUcsft'iCl to osl uj> oixxuriiy at i-is^k i«!r.d f b^ ti«ij in tJv?. Hc^aicid* efficr. P.c) waa trar.aferrod lo County Jail at approxiratisly ns's-^^*"** rcr.c^y j^n-iinc:, fiovviiwr 2?, 19'j3 ty Captain J* tv» Fritz tsr.d offic:»rs of nt:^>ce. ^^^*- Leptber folder camera filters ""^ 1 Immigrant card fcr liarina N. 'jswald "" 2 V.hite paper in ? assian writing ^1 Birth certifi?s\e for Jvine Oswald "1 Passeport bj- for June Oswald "^ • 1 Type A Kodac i'ome roll ^ 1 Camera timer H^.NZA ~~^2 Name tags black plastic Michael ^aine, -^rving, Texas ~~~~ 1 Sterio Realist Camera and case ~^ 1 Letter from Eri-ck "^^ 1 Russell Stover candy box filled with drugs ..^^ 1 Brown pasteboard box filled id.th camera films slides 1 Realist view master black plastic ~^ 1 Black plastic Sawyers viev? master 1 yellow box of Kodaslide sinple naire of ^ ah Hyde 1 Yellow box of Kodaslide single. ^^ 1 Small German camera ^no black case on chain and film "^ 1 Yellow canvas sack coins -^1 Roll Kodak PX 13^^ film — " '"^^ 1 7 X 18 Sun Pearr p^ysses 1 Mew "-'aven PedoTi ei,er ' 1 Jan compas "^^ 1 V/ollensak 1'^ y y. er telescope ~~~^ 1 Po" Sylvanip -':=jsb bulbs ~~--l Russian-'Cnirlisb dictionary ~-- Telephone number (Anna TA" ?219-> 1 ^1 Electric bill from Mew Orl.^^ns ~~- TTnemnloyment insurance stub — 1 Russian map. 1 Book from Sears Tower slide projector 1 Russian .35 i^'in camera and brown case — " -1 Plastic bag Russian papers and i'Jew Orleans paper ' ^1 Blue notebook with Cuba papers and other papers of Communistic nature 1 Grey metal file box 12" x 6" youth pictures and literature 1 Black and grey metal box 10" x U" letters, etc. 1 Box brown Keystone projector 3 Bro;m metal boxes 12" x li" containing phonograph records 1 Blue check telephone index boo' (addresses) i 1 Bracket (Instruction for mounting) ^ — Book v*iite naper back (Russian) ^ 1 Roll Kodr K film 1 Kodak Kor'='chrome film "^ 1 o-'?k Kodachrome film ' '^1 Viev master reel (Glacier National J^ark) "~~ 1 View master reel (National Park Alaska) 1 Pn.=sian newspaper 63 Kodachrome transnarency slides 1 pictures from catalop of womens clothing — letter addressed to Mrs, Marina Oswald from Russia 1 Envelope to Karina Oswald from Ruth Paine postmarked Jul. 22, I963 — 1 letter addressed to J^arina Oswald from Fairhope, Ala. Stovall Exhibit A 596 ;^ Page 2 List of property taken from Ruth Paine house at 2$1$ W. 5th, Irving. *"" 1 Brown Russian booklet ~1 Letter (in P.ussian) • 1 Letter to Marina Oswald from PaoH, Pa. 2 Coil craft stenographer notebook -1 Texas employment comissLon card made to Lee H. Oswald — ""- 1 Pamphlet with "Hihch & I^insk" also "Visit the USSR" 1 Russian letter — 9 Pictures of Russia 1 Envelope with women's bock entitled "Simplicity" — ~^ 1 6 Poll film An SCO flash attachment for camera 1 Prown case (camera) on lonp: chain ~~- Pottle of white powdered substance (rec nail polish on the side) - 1 Russian Book ^' Binoculars "Mikron 6>: Coated" ToK'o and brown leather case —1 Letter to Lee from Minsk :er>t. 30. I963 '~ 1 Texas ^mnlqyment Commission card to Lee Osi.'ald — 2 Cards with picture of stork for Oswald's baby ^1 Instruction pamphlet for caring for baby. "~- 1 Letter to MaiT.na Oswald "^ 1 Knife in leather case — 1 Paper with green weeds — 1 Letter addressed to Lee H. Oswald, PO Box 3OO6I, New Orleans, La. 1 Picture of Oswald and wife — 1 Wool blanket rolled up and tied at one end with a cord, open at the other end ( released to the FBI and taken to Viashlngton) The above listed property was recovered from 2^5 W. 5th, Irving by Detectives G. F. Rose, R. S. Stovall and J. P. Adaracik. All the property has been initialled and marked for evidence by Stovall and Rose. Stovall Exhibit A —Continued 597 The foUoTTing items were recovered in Irving, Texas, at 2^5 West 5th Street on November 23, 1963, b7 Moore, Rose, and Stovallt Blue suitcase containing} Sharp shooter medal 1 bag containing some old ^ewelr 2 watches 1 key Dog tag Envelope conte-ning scrnie 35nni nei^iivt;: Several miscell£.neous Russian book^nd literature 1 grey metal box containing miscellaneous Russi. literature and some slide r'e^atives l{±sceTi%:n&c^3 photograp. and i:i?r£ Yellow envel-T-e containing miscellaneous pictures and letters Pamphlet on the Fair Pla;' for Cuba Committee 1 candy box containing oictures, correspondence, and le*.t "s 1 notice of attempt tc deliver mf-il, card dated November 20, 1963, to Vt, Lee Oswald, ?^'2 . rA, Lee Harvey 0^;eie v:es brcu-;ht into the Kovd-cide Offica. Uo (Roee' end £-oovell) talked to him bi-ieilly, cbteining Ixlc ID end ncjiG, find at about 2:30 rA, Cept. Frits, R. M, SLt.s, a:-d E. L. Boyd ccrne into tlu) offico Ce-p-ii„ "rrits inetructed Detectives Rose and Stovoll to get ono additicnal nor. and to go hr\diig, TexaSj, :aeet the Ccmty Officers and malcc a search of the house at 2pl5; l-:eet ^thj Irving. This- -.res the house xrhero Lee Osuald's Trife lived -ilth Ruth PainOj arxi Os-i;ald stayed thsre on i;eek ends. VJe took De-tec- tive J. P. hdeiT.cil: ^r.d irarr^dia-taly drove to 251^ Vest 5th, Irving 'xnd parked abou-:. one-half blocl-c froia th^ Pajne horo to await tha clival of th^ Caanty Of ficerSj, after appro;d.-iTntely a ItO-minutG uait, Detectives Harry K, ufeather- ford^ L\ T-J, (Buddy) UalthorSj and J. L. O;:ford of the Dallas County CID arri\edc Ue instructed thorn of our r.iission and dro'so to the front of the Paine ho.T.e^ Detectives Adarp.cik and tvo of the County Officers uont to v)r3 back dcor*;, a:-.d one county officer and Stovall and Rose vent to tha front door - tine appro:n.r;ately 3:30 FA^ Upon stepping onto th3 front porch, uc could hear thj 11 and see t-Jo people sitting in the li.vin^ room. Ruth Pain© answered our :a-iOck on the door. She vas very cordial, and her first stater^nt cf-tor uo' procentcd our ID, vas KCcr.3 on in, \:e rero ercpoctins you* J-as-b as coon as i:c heard xjhore it happened, vo fisured sonecnQ uould be oute° She invited ns Stovall Exhibit C 599 Roc--S-:.ovarL-Acc^cil: - Pago 2 'CO i.;il:o a cc-.:.-ch ox he::' ho:uO c« •:7::lch 'c.!:.:-; ;:;, 'jcz:^si c ccth epical Cicrch c:? tho I'.cuco, iG-.* a lict of itcrr.s ":c; bocl: f-_-c..-. this house 1:33 the c;t"tcched Pi-G-ccrty Li^t, At cppro:±ni2t3l7 3.-1;^ 7A :-:i.dhcel Rclph PcinQ usllced -a^ tho •:ralh'..-cy crd cntorcd tho ho\iE3 ;ritho\:t hnci'.rin^. He told P.uth Pcir.O;, "I heard -..'hsre tho President was chct^ aiti I c;c:::e ri^ht en over to Cio if I could be 01'' ciiy help to you," Ke else told her thtt ho had ;5'^-- "'-r.'cd ofi" the jce„ It tho suggestion of Kerlna Oe-.-'eldj xrife of Lee Ker-i'ey Osucldj x:e al^e lueeo a search of the garage, ivJ.ch is attached to tho Paine heme- i-Iroa 0^-::ald '.res asked about her husband's rifle, and she s-catod that he had one J C..J th:>t he kep'i it in the gara^;e xjra--oed in a blanket. S"no t:as Bpev.'.:- in;? -j^-. Russian, and P.uth Pains vras interpreting for us. She pointed to a rellee-up blanket laying on the 2^-^Z^ iloorj arj3 said, '^That is t:hero ho Icceps his rifle", (in Rusian, interpre'ced by Ruth Paine) Also see attached Property List. After eo:i3 confusion as to xchat to do with the children. Rath P^ine agreed to accompany Marina Os::ald to the Ciry Kail, and wo tsgan Icadi^-i^ the property l^-iat we were confiscating for evidence into our car and ii^.to tho car of the Dallas County Sheriff 's* office » About this time 1-Irs. Bill Rar.dallj who lives at 2h39 West ^th, Ir\dn3, approached Dot. Adancik and told hiia that her brother Wesley Frazier took Oswald to work this laoming^ Kovecaber 22;, 1553, and that she saw Os:7ald carry scaething over to her brother's car and put it in the back seat. It vas lorg and icapped in paper or c bo::. She x.-ae suspicious. She said that hor brother was visitins her fathor at PcrliLcnd Hos-pitalj and we could reach hiri there Stovall Exhibit C —Continued 600 to t/.c Oity IV^ll ar.d p:^'.:cd cur ccr i.. vlic j^Ge;r^nt Ox tha Cit/ Ecll, Uc :3 \:::c -^l^iir-:; ilc/Or^ Ho::icico c_ic Hobbwr/ bureau Of::icc_> and -bh-:;! cuxr^::- c J^u z-ir^s/::.:^ ^r.ovzC t'.~.zn ;x> tho Forgery Sur-cc:.;! OiTfics, cua to tho cro::dcd ccndiwioa oJ' •::;:c irordcidc OfricGj -cimo cppro::lr:c-:jl7 6:C0 E'lo liter ^-ttiu^ tho Pci:c^J ci'Q ".._-"3^ O^-rcld settled and ::;hile ".'citing i'cr en intarpretor, v:a star'oed t:.'^'* in;;;; to loccte '.Teeley ?rcsior» Tve contacted ?£rU.and end found tVjit ""ieelcy ?"re-::ier ::ee net et ?er:cl£nd Kospi'tel, T-Je -jnido a cliecl: of the Ir^dn3 Clinics end -Gn:-.d cue vie phone that Uesley :res at the Irving Professional Csntar vieitii-.^' hie i^ether* Det. Hose celled the Irving Police Depertn-^eno and telhed to Deto :-rc C^eej '^'ho Gtetcd that he '/culd iv/jr.ediately go to t'o Irving Profoc- eicnei Cenv^r end teke Wesley Freiiler into custody and insroruc'cod tis to cell l±a bech i:-. 1? -..-inutes to verify the arrest. We celled Det. J. A. l-Ic Csbo bade at eoout «':.!;> Iv.'^ end ho inforj.ed us that he had effected th^ arrest of Wesley PreL:.^_-;, ene \:o cculd pick Frazier up at the Irving Police Department. We (Dete. l^oee end Stovoll) drove iiarr^diately to Irving, arriving i&here at cp- prc::lv.etely 7:C0 Tl-U We tellced to Det. lie Cabe, and ho agreed to accojtpeny • . us along i::ith Wesley Frasier to tho Irving Professional Center to make a eeer.:;h of We„.ley Fr:.::ier'e car, a 19Sh black Chevrolet, h dr«, Licc-nse V£ 3926, We . .v.ede e thorough eeerch of Fra:n.er' e car x.'i-ch negative results^, then prcceede-d to Freeier'e ho-uo, 2139 West 5th, I-.^-rlng (i/2 block fron the Peine hc.ic) end r.edc e cearch of the Pendlo ho:r.e (elso Fre'eier ho;r.2) and confiscated a 303 celibre rifle ;, full clip, end partial bar: 303 celibra ci;:;:n~:iiticn belcng2~g to liesley Freuier (pieced in Property Roor:)« Afier c vhilo Wesley Fracicr'o' Stovall Exhibit C —Continued 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 40 601 ai^-iror^ liirio Jvcridlcj c^rne in znd J^ho, Id:-^2 Rc^dlOj "Jcslcy FrcL^isi/j c:id a l-lcv. C-r.-p'j.!..^ or -"Jhc: I-.-^l:ij r:-;_i.,^-j Clivc-c"^;, \.^ra "--.-viu^icIvL; to iha City HaU^ Hcj^cido er.d: Robbery Office, 'rl-.i-ro cffid::-.dtc "3ro tdccn iron V.'ocley Frc^ior •::o (i;--::3<, :?:o^-j end S•iov^ll) ctartsd beck -bo Irvins^ -^excs, Td-th tha cbovo xd.-inocc;3£^ Abotit v.n.dvc;y x:q rocsivad c rcdio cJ.1 --o rstum "oo tho offico •i:i\±i the T.-i-J-necjoSc 'Jo •'o-ir.n-cd cro-jnd ct Ir^lr.^ Boulevard end Sta-sx-nc E;:prc;ocr;:c;f snd crcva beck to Ci-cry Hallp end Eeto Hoco called Capt. Frits by -toZ-iphcr^ and C^pto Frits asked that we run Wesley Frasier on the Polygraph r^chinoo Ve -oco'.: Frei:ier to the ID Bureau, and Capt, Do-;dy called Det. R. D, 'Lsiric at ho..-.a, ?.. I;. Le-.ris arrived on the fourth floor aboui 11:20 E'l and conducted the ?oly2--'eph o:-:ar.rina-a.cn until appro-iwately 12:10 AI-I, 11-23-63 » This c::- arnineti.on -..-as '^d.tneseed by Dets. Stovall and Rose. The ossrsinatiaa showed conol--.ivcly that Veslcy Frasier -was truthi^ulj and that the facts £t£'<>3d by F--'-.;_ic-- in hie affidavit rare true (Szo his Affidavit), ¥e too!: Frasior, l:iJ sistji'j and 'ohoir loinister hoe and got off dtriy at 2:00 M» G, F. Rose R, S. Stovall J. ?• Adamcik Stovall Exhibit C —Continued 602 Richard S. Stovall Exhibit D Q. F. ROSE - R. S. STOVALL - J. P. ADIMCIK - H. M. MOORE REPORT ON INVE.^nGATION OF THE PRESIDENT'S WUPDER November 23, 1963, Saturday, reported for duty 10:00 AM and spent first two hours checking and Initialing the erldence. 12:30 IW called Judge Joe Brown, Jr., and obtained a Search Warrant to search the premises at 2^15 West ^th, Irving, and Detectives R. S. Stovall, H, M. Moore, J. P. Adancik, and 0. F, Rose drove to Irving, Texas, and contacted Det. Mc Cabe of the IrviT^ Police Department, who accompanied us to 2^15 West 5th, Irving, home Of Ruth Paine. We t/hcmed Mrs. Paine the Warrant and proceeded to search the premises, starting in the garage where we found two sea bags and three sxdt cases, and two cardboard boxes. We examined all of Lee Harvey Oswald's be- longings and found nmnerous items of interest, among them found by Dets. Rose was two snapshots and negatives showing Oswald holding the rifle (murder weapon) and wearing a pistol in a holster on his right hip (Tippit murder weapon) y also other papers of a Communist nature (See attached Property list). Also found by Det. Stovall was a cut out portion of a magaslne advertisement from Kline Department Store in Chicago, shewing an advertisement of the murder weapon. All those itens vero confiscated along with other items and marked for evidence. Stovall Exhibit D 603 THE WESTERN UNION TELEGRAPH COMPANY [;;0^:£Y GuDta RECEIPT CITV A.HO »TAT -It i-icalv*d £0/ t^ Loiltraisig <3»^c:7y;i35£ tsIsjKiplif.c iiitfUfy Cit^- £-oivi: ir-LOVuE —f/' -Ex '^^^^ 3^" SSfs'"" Steong Exhibit No. 5120 teleg: ji^. JiX..:G.-21 STi-' ^ , - -X u ,-» - 0- " >.««rN*;^:v ^"^ L Al-p3i.>.lATE 'i i3 /.1:.^^'A^;^^ SUCCtSTIONi "f.O/i ITS rAT Stuckey Exhibit No. 2 — Continued G22 3 Oa^vald-Stuokey interview OGV.'AID: ( Cont. ) ov.n non-intervention laws, that la what Hands Off Cuba means. As I say we are not occupied at all with the problem of the Soviet Union. STUCKEY: iJoea your group believe that the Castro resim© in Cuba la not actually a front for a Soviet colony in the Vostorn Hand sphere? OSWALD: Very iisti£:k definitely. Castro is an independent leader of an independent country. Ho has ties v.'ith the Soviet Union, with the eastern bloc, however, I think it la rather obvious ay to why and whom they are because of the fact that wo certainly don't have any trade v;ith them, are discouraginG trade with that country, '^.'e v,'ith our allies and so forth, so of course he has to turn to Russia. That does not mean, however, that he is dependent unpon Russia. H3 receives trade from many countries, including Great Britain to a certain extent, France, certain other powers in the '.astern Hsraisphere. Hj i3 even trading with several of the more independent African states, so that you cannot point at Castro and say that ho is a Russian puppet. Ha is not. He is an independent person. An independent leader in his country and I believe that was pointed out vary '..ell during the October crisis v;hon Castro very etrntdiwditly definitely said that although Premier Khrushchev had urged him to have on-site inspection at his rocket bases in Cuba, that Fidel Castro refused, STUCKEY: Do you feel thjit the Fair Play for Cuba Connittee vjould maintain its present line as far as supporting Premier Castro if the Soviet Union broke relations with the Castro regime in Cuba? OSWALD: V.e do not support the man. Ve do not support the individual. We support the idea of an independent revolution in the V.'estornHoiiaphere, free from A-^ierican intervention. V'e do not support, aa I say, the individual. If the Cuban people destroy Castro, or if he is otherwise proven to have betrayed his ovm revolution, that v;ill not have any bearing upon this coinittee . V.'e are a co.-amittee who do believe that Caatro has not ao far betrayed hia country. STUCKEY: Do you believe that the Castro regime is a Co-imuniat regime? 03.7ALD: They have said, well, they have said that they are a Marxist country. On the other hand, so is Ghana, ao is several other countries in Africa. Every country which eraargeia from a sort of f&flilz feudal state as Cuba did, experiments, usually in socialism, in IJarxiam. For that matter, Great Britain haa aocialized aedloine. Yotl oannot say that Caatro is a Communist at this tLne, 4//r^ Stuckey Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 623 4 Oswald-Stuokey interview OSV.'ALD: ( Cont. ) booauae he has not davolopod his country, hla ayatem this far. He has not had the ohanoa to booo.ie a Oonrnuniot. He is an experlnentor, a poraon v.-ho is trying to find tho beat vmy for hia country. If ha choose a Socialist or a I.!arxi3t or a Co.-anunlst way of life, that is soaething upon which only the Cuban people can pass. V'e do not hava tho ri^ht to pa3J on that. V-e can have our opinions, naturally, but v.e cannot exploit that system and say it is a bad one, it is a threat to our existence and then go and try to destroy it. That would be ngainst our principles of Democracy. STUCrCEY: As a representative of the Fair Play for Cuba Conmittee, do you fool that Capitalisa in any fora, or at least Capitalism in any form, zot has any place in the future of Cuba? 03V/ALD: V'ell, so far the situation has devoloped v.'here they, Cuba, Is irrevocably lost as for as Capitalism goes and there will never be a Capitalist regime again in Cuba. Cuba may go t,ha way of Ozeohoalovakia, Yugoslavia or it may go tho way to tho other oxtremo. It mcy cp the way of China, in 6ther words, a dogmatic Coramunist system^at depends on how we handle the natter here in the United States. STUCKEY: Does the Fair Play for Cuba Committee have any particular position in tho Cuban, or rather tfie Chinese and Russian conflict? Has it taken sides as opposed to China's position or as opposed to Russians position? OSVrALD: Vrell, no, we do not believe in international Jituationa of that sort. As the name implies, FairSaa Play for Cuba Committee, we are occupied only with the one narrow point of Cuba, the problem of Cuba and nhat it is to us. We are not occupied at all ^7ith the piDblems of the Russians or the YugoslavJan-Russian problems v.-hatsoever • STUCKEY: I have here -.vith me tonight various pieces of literature that ilr. Oswald has been distributing on street corners here in the last week. I»d like to read to you sons of the titles. Tho first is a yellow handbill entitled 'Hands Off Cuba. Join the Fair Play for Cuba Committoe in New Orleans, Charter Member Branch." There is another pamphlet by the name of "The Revolution llust Be a School of Unfettered Thought! —Fidel Castro**. There is still another pamphlet entitled "Fidel Castro Denounces Bureaucracy and Sectarianism." And a fourth pamphlet entitled "Ideology and Revolution" by Jean Paul Sartre. I am curious about a fifth pamphlet I have, I'r. Oswald. This, to me, was the most interesting. It is entitled "The Crime Against Cuba" by Corliss Lament. The theme of this pa-nphlet is that tho fact that the United States macx committed a grave injustice when it backed the Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961. How, it has probably a complete Ideology here for the National Liberation ^Jh Stuckey Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 624 5 Oswald-Stuokey Interview STUCiOSY: ( Cont. ) :iovQaont type of rhiloaophy thut V70 hear of in the new countries. Picking unong the paragraphs, I see one hore that I'd like to hoar Mr. Oswald' 3 comment on, and I'd like to quote: "It is '.-joll | to recall that the national emsrgenoy proclaimed by President I Truman in 1950 during the Korean V:ar is still in effect in the I United Strites and has been utilized constantly for the curtaiLnent t of civil liberty." ihat is your comment about the voracity of this ^ statement? OSv/AID: V'ell of course, that is the last paragraph of a very long page. That has to do ^.•ith the fact that propaganda in the United States is slanted and has 3ho-,«i Cuba and Castro to be in a very bad light, i^o-.v, they huvo mentioned, the United States govarnmont, has raentionod that Castro has declared an emergency in Cuba. Ha has not held elections for instance because of the fact that there is an emergency situation in Cuba. IJow, the Castro governnont is declaring that ±k it is doing just ^hat this points out. It is doing .'hat v,fe did in 1950 and you recall v.-hat happonod in 1950. That v/as during tjie beginning of the Korean V.'ar vhon we felt that we v.'ere going to be in a very, very dangerous situation. V'e adopted an emergeacy law which restricted newspapers, broadcasters, radio and TV from gnxixgxnHjK giving any opinions, any coTjients -^hich we not already checked out by certain aaminijtrative bureaus of the United States governmont. That was under our emergency. At thia tLme, Fidel Castro has his emergency. It ij bee uaa of us and our attitude and because of the attitude of certain other people, certain other countries in L-tin America, certain other countries. This is the parallel, the parallel which this is talking about. An emergency in our country at that tirae and an emergency in their country at this time* 3TUCKEY: Llr. Oswald, this is vary interesting to ma to find out about the restriction on newspapers in 1950 because I was in the newspaper business at that tine and I do not recall seeing any such government bureau aatablished in my office to tell us v.hat to print. Exactly what do you have reference to? OSV/ALD: Well, I have reference to the obvious fact that during war time, haphazard guesses ana information are not given by anyone. In regards to military strategical comments such as comments or , leaks about new fronts or movements and so forth, news was controlled at that time to that extent, as it is always controlled during a war or a national emergency, always. STUCKEYt Do you feel that news is controlled in the United States today regarding Cuba? (JkS Stuckey Exhibit No. 2— Continued 625 Oswald-Stuokey interview 03V/ALD: It Is Q solf control, yea, Irapoaed by most newspapers. Of course, I don't know whether I an bolns fair, but of course I would have to point to the 'i'inea gtKany Picayune -St ate a Item syndicate, since it la tte only newspaper wo have in New Orleans and a very restricted paper it is. The fair Play for Cuba Co^uaitteo has often approached this paper with information or comnonts and this paper has consistently refused, because of the fact that it la synpnthetlo to the anti-Castro regime. It has systematically refxisad to print any objective matter, giving the other man's viewpoint about Cuba. STUCKEY: V.ould you oare to list the dates and the persona who you talked to at the paper that refused to print your material? OSV/ALD: I do not know the name of the reporter. I did apeak to the city editor. I spoke to hli one v?eek ago and I spoke to him yoaterday, Friday, which was inmediately after our daraonstration when I and several other of ray members had a deaonstration In front of the International Trade ilart which was fiLtied by 'DSU-TV andxadsxauuc shown last night on the news. At that time, 2 p.-n,, I went to the Ti les-Pioayune, infomed them of our de:.onstratlon, which was very well covered by V.DSU-TV and they told me at that time that due to the fact that they were not ajnjipathetio to this organization or to the aims and ideals of this organization that they v.ould not print any information that I gave them. Thay did se that if I v;ould oare to write a letter to the editor they flight put that in the letter to the editor colann. STUCiSY: Mr. Oswald, does it make any difference to you if any of the activities of the local branch of the Fair Play for Cuba Corji ttee benefit the Communist Party or the goals of international Conmxmlsm? 03V.'ALD: Well, that is what I believe you v;ould term a loaded question. However, I will attempt to answer It. It is inconsistent with my ideals to support Coamunism, my personal ideals. It is inconsistent v;ith the ideals of the FairPlay for Cuba Gorjilttee to support ideals of international Coonunisn. Ve are not occupied with that problem. Vo are occupied with the problem of Cuba. V.e do not believe under any oircinstances that in supporting our ideals about Cuba, our pro-Castro ideals, we do not believe that that la inconsistent with believing in democracy. 4uito the contrary, wa belie"' that it la a necessity in supporting democracy to support Fidel Castro and hia right to make his country any way- ho wonts to. Not so much the right to destroy ua of our rights about defense. In other words, we do not feel that we are supporting international Communism or Communism in supporting Fidel Castro. . Stuckey Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 626 C 7 Osvmld-Gtuokey interview STUCiCSY: V.hat other politioal leaders in Latin A.-:i3riOQ do you fool fulfill the Fair Piny for Cuba CoiTiittee^a requirements for a Danooratio politioal loader? OGV/AID: Well, you knov;, there's a funny story about Latin Anerioa. It goes something like this. Coffoa, bananas, cugar and a few other products. In other words, that rcf irs to the so-oalled banana countries which like Cuba up to this tiaa had a one-oropa agrioulturo, a one-crop ooonomy and -vhere did those crops {;o? They wont to the United otatos. How the attitude of those countries v/ho are controllod by the United States, v-hose ooonomy depends alaost 100 per cent upon hovi much money the United states pours into then, those countries can not be oxpactod to give an independent viov.point on Cuba or Castro. The few countries which abstained at certain international intar-Ariorican nootings during tlia last year, are those countries which are big enough to support themselves. Those countries toeing only Brazil, Argentina and perhaps on some occasions the democratic republic of Costa Rica, v.hich is by the way, tho only demooratio republic in all of Central America. GTUCKEY: V-liat is your definition of democracy? OSV'ALD: I'ly definition, well, the definition of democracy, that's a very good one. That's a very oontrovoraial viev.point. You know, it used to bo very clear, but now it's not. You know, when our forefathers dre'.v up tho constitution, they considered that democracy was creating an atonosphero of freedom of discussion, of arguBient, of finding tho truth. The rights, well, tho clajsio right of having life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In Latin Anerioa, they have none of those rights, none of thom at all. And that is ray definition of da-iocracy, the right to be in a minority and not to bo suppressed. The right to see forjcnanranifl yourself withouh gTyernmont restrictions such countries as Cuba, and we are restricted from going to Cuba. STUCKEY: ilr. Oswald, whan was tlio last time you were in Latin America? OSWALD: I have been only to Mexico in ray life, sir. I an not fully acquainted with L^itin America personally, but then I am not the prouident of this organization either, I am only a volunteer, a secretory of this local chapter. I do not claim to be an export on Latin America, but than very fev; people do. Corteinly, it is obvious to me, having been educated here in Haw Orleans and having been instilled with the ideals of deiocracy and objectivenoss, that Cuba and the right of Cubans to self-determination is mora or less self evident, and one doos not have to travel through Central and South iVmerloa. One does not have to travel through these countries to sea the poverty in Chile or Peru or the suppression of deioc ratio liberties by the Somoa aio ( brothers in Kioaragua in order to ) draw one's oonolusions about Cuba* / // Stuckey Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 627 8 Oswald-Stuokey interview STUCKEY: ^oea the Fair Play Tor Cuba Coai.il&toe have any opinion about the aupprosaion of doiocratlo liberties in Hungary in 1956 or the poverty in any of the eastern bloc countries today? OSh'ALD: Offioially no, but of course v^e have our ovn opinions about such situations. V/e consider that Russian inporiallsn la a very bad thing. It was a bad thins in iiungary. V.e oortalnly do not support dictatorships or the suppression of any peoples anyv.here, but as I say and as I must jtresa, we are preoccupied only with the problem of Cuba, officially. STUCKEY: Mr. Oswald, you have tho title of secretary of the New Orleans chapter of tho 'air Flay for Cuba Coiriittoe, ho.vevor, ou have Just said that you have never been to Latin A:-ierica except for a few ventures into llexlco. In that case, jxist exactly how do you got your infornation concerning Latin American affairs or Latin American oonditlona? OSrALD: V.ell, as I sny, ve arc preoccupied vdth tho problem of Cuba. There are correspondents that correspond with the headquarters in Hew ^ork, directly from Cuba, that is -..•hore v;e get the inforiaation about Cuba. Now, in regards to Latin and Central /murica, you do not have your own correspondent there. The A? and the U? cover it very well and they certainly give a very clear picture of the situation in certain countries, Nicaragua, and so forth, as I ncntioned, which have vary undoiocratlc regines, dictators:. Ipa, and as I say these things are well known by everyone and they are accepted as truth. For inst^noo, who will bo able to find any official or any person who knows about Latin xVTierioa, v.-ho will say that Nicaragua does not have a dictatorship? oTUCI-CEY: Very interesting that you should mention dictatorshl in Nicaragua, because we, naturally familiar with the place, have h.-ard about thesedictatorships for many, many years, but it is curious to me why no Nicaraguana fled to the United States last year, whereas we had possibly 50,000 to 60,000 Cubans fleeing from Cuba to the United States. V.liat is the Fair Play for Cuba Committee's offlcia reply to this? OSWAID: Well, a good question. Nicaraguan situation is considerably different from Castro's Cuba. People aAa are Inclined not to flee their countries xinless some new oysten, new factor, enters into their lives. I must say that very uurely no new factors liave jntared into Nicaragua for about 300 years, in fact the people live exactly as they have always lived in Nicaragua. I am refering to the overwhelming majority of tho people In Nicaragua. a< Stucket Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 628 9 Oswald -Gtuokey Interview OSWALD:( Cont. ) which l3 a feudal dictatorship v;lth 90 per cont of the poople oar,aged la agriculture. Thoao peasants are uneducated. Thoy have one of the lov.-est living standards In all of tlie v;o3torn homiaplaore and so because of tha fact that no nav; factor, no llbaratlng factor, has entered Into their lives, tlioy remain in iJlcaragua. Mow tha people who have fled Cuba, that Is an Interesting situation. Heedless to say, there are olaasos of orlilnals; there are classes of peo'jla who are v.anted In Cuba for crlnos asaiast humanity and most of those people are the sacia people who are In Kav; Orleans and have sot thonsolves up In stores v.'lth blood noney and who engage la day to day trade with Ilav; Orloanlans. Those are the people v;ho would certainly not want to go back to Cuba and ;ho would certainly want to flea Cuha. There are other classes. There are peasants who do not like the collectivization In Cuban agrioulture. Thore are others who have one reason or the other in their logltlnate reasons, reasons of opinion, for fleeing Cuba. Host of tlieso people floe by legal neans. They are allowed to leave after reciuesting the Cuban gov:;rnnont for exit visas. Gone of these people for soma reasons or another do not like to apply for these visas or they feel that they cannot get them; thoy floe, they flee Cuba in boats, they flee any v;ay they can go and I think that the opinion and the attitude of the Cuban govomraent to this is good riddance. STUCKEY: ?/ir. Oswald, this is vary interesting because as a reporter in tMs field for some time I have been interviewing refugeas nw; for ahout three years and I'd say that the last Batista nan, officially, that I talked to left Cuba about two and a half years ago and tha rest of them I've talked to have been taxloab drivers, laborers, cane cutters, and that sort of thing. I thought this revolution was supposed to benefit these poople. V^liat is the Fair Play for Cuba Committee's position on tMs? OSV.'ALD: v;ell, as I say thore are different classes. A minority of these poople are as X ^47 people who were Batista criniinals and 80 forth. Ho'.vevor, it nay nfot be true that th". people fleeing nowadays are oonplotely cleansed of Batista elements, certainly sorae of these Batistaltes have bean hiding or have been engaged in counter- revolutionary aotlvitjfces over ainca the B^-iy of Pigs Invasion and even before that, just after the revolution. In other words, they have remained underground. £ Undoubl.edly the overwhoLiilng majority of people during tha last year, for instance, who have fled Cuba have been non-Batistaites, rather peasant class. You say the ravolvtion is supposed to benefit these people. You know, it's very funny about revolutions. Hevolutions require work, revolu ions require saorifloe, revolutions, and our own included, require a certain amount of rationing, a certain amount of calluses, a certain aiount of aaorifioo. Sacrificing one's own personal ideas about countries, oitlzenship, work, indioates people who have fled Cuba have not been able to adapt themselves to these nev? factors which have entered h5 Stuckey Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 629 10 Oswald-Stuokey Intorview OSWALD: ( Cont. ) these people's lives. Those people are tho uneducated. These people are tho people who do not remain in Cuba to bo educated by young people, who are afraid of the alphabet, who are afraid of theso now things which are oocuring, who are afraid that they -jould loso Something by collectivization. Thoy were afraid that they v;ould f lose something by seeing their ;ju^,ar crops taken a\jay and in place Of sU(3ar crops, sone other vegetable, some other product, olanted, because Cuba has always been a one-product country, nore or less. These are the people who have not been able to adapt. STUCKEY: Mr. Oswald, you say thoir atigar crops, llost of the Cubans I have talked to that have had anything to do with agricultvtre in the last year and a half have not owned one single acre of groimd, thoy were oane cutters. OoVJAID: That is correct and they are the ones that are fleeing the Castro regime. That is correct sir. That is very, very tr.ue and I am very glad you brought that point up. You know, it usod to be that these people worked for tho United Fruit Company or /uaerican Companies engaged in sugar refining, oil refining in Cuba. They v.'orked a few months every year during tho cane cutting or sugar refining season. Thoy novor o.vned anything, and they feol nov; that that little bitBti of right, the right to work for five months a year has been taken away from them. Thoy feel that now they have to work all year round to plant new crops, to make a new economy and 30 they feel that they have been robbed, they feol that they have bean robbed of the right to do as they pleaso bocauso of the fact that the government now depends upon ita people to build its economy, to industrialize itself, so they figure they have been robbed. hat ^ they do not realize is that they have been robbed of the right to be exploited, robbed of the right to bo cheated, robbed of tho right of New Orleanaan companies to take away what v.as rightfully theirs. Of coxirse, thoy have to share now. Everybody gets an equal portion. This is collectivization and this is vory hard on some people, on people profering the dog-eat-dog economy. STUOKEY: V.hat do you rofer to as the dog-eat-dog economy? I3 that Capitalism in your definition? OSWALD: Ho, that is an economy whore the people do not depend on each other, they have no feelings of nationality, they have no feelings, of culture, thoy have no feelings of any ties whatsoe on a high level. It is every man for himself. That is what I refer to by dog-eat-dog, STUCKBYi Are you familiar with the existence of a black market in Soviet Russia or in Red China, where tho majority of the populace gets their food, their truck crops and vegetables and such from this market* Do you know of such a market? 6jcS Stuckey Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 630 11 Oawald-Stuokey interview 03V/ALD: V.'ell, I know nbout the faot thet there la a narket In the Soviot Union only for wostarn apparel, and certain other iten3 • There is no block markot In the Soviet Union for food, none whatever. By black norket, I aaaune that you noan a situation where food is either stolen or gro.vn in one area, and taken to another area and sold covertly, under cover. Ho such systea exists in Russia. STUOKEY: JJr. Oswald, I an curious about your personal background. If you could tell something about '.vhoro you cctae from, your ©duontion and your career to date, it would be interesting. OSV'ALD: I would bo very happy to. I vjns born in Nov; Orleans in 1939. For a short length of tine during ray childhood, I lived in Texas and New York. JUuring my junior high school days, I attended Beaurogard Junior High School. I attended that school for tv;o years. Then I wont to '.arren Easton Iligh School and I attended that school for over a year. Than my family and I moved to Texas whore v.'e have many relatives and I continued my schooling there. I entered the United States ilarino Corps in 1956. I spent three years in the United States Karine Corps, working my way up through the ranks to the position of buck sergeant and I served honorably, having been discharged. Then I v^ent back to work in Texas and have recently arrived in Hew Orleans with my family, with my wife and my child. STUCKEY: V/hat particular event in your life made you decide that th^ Fair Play for Cuba Connittoe had the correct answers about Cuban-United States relations? 0SV,7JJ): Yi'ell, of course, I have only begun to notice Cuba since the Cuban revolution, that is true of everyone, I think. I became acquainted with it about the same tine as everybody else, in 1960. In the bef.inning of 19603p. I always felt that the Cubans were being pushed into the Soviot bloc by Aiierican policy. I still feel t]:at way. Our policy, if it had been handled differently and many others much more informed than I have said the same thing, if that situation had been handled differently, we would not have the big problem of Castro's Cuba now, the big intornntional political problem. Although I feel that it is a just and right development in Cub; still we could be on much friendlier relations with them and had the government of the United States, iJBla its government agencies, particularly oertaln covert, under-cover agencies like the now defunct CIA. STDOKEYi Now defunot? 4^/^^ Stucket Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 631 . 12 Oa-wald-Stuokey Interview 03V/ALD: '.ell, Its leader Jhlp ia ncfw defunct. Allon A>ulloa la now defunct. I believe that without all that meddllns, v;lth a little bit different humanitarian handling of the situation, Cuba v;ould not be the problem it ia today. STUCKEYi la there any particular action of the United States government do you feel that pushed Castro into Soviet urma? OSWAID: Vr o»;hcr orrjanization for v.'hich they v.orlio T.^jce r-.-.'^ ?ress have in their possession a. press card iuonvifyin :ial pr^ card for their auto.T.o"sile« ., is the policy thav ncr.bc-'S cJ this D:;p:.r:T-.er.r rc..".cr ever; Lstanse, ixcept such as obviously ::.:,y sc;-"iously hir.-cr or tc-cy tl.3 p: f une- :ior.in2 of the Department , xo the accreditee: r.e.r.bers of ...e ^ :::.therin2 agencies and •L.iis incudes nev.'spapcr , tclovJ-sion c; lews-reei photographers.. onateur photo^.^phers and those without proper press credcn- landled as other bystanders and v;ili be .-jiven no :.re lil^^r- :. »f a police incident tha.-. other^ w- -S-hc- ^jeneral p.:-/lic prcs; be permitted to cros^ police ..rx^ ..or approad closer • ;*iaa the ;;cneral public is ai:.e-..w^« • ,-'1 Talbert, Cecil E. Exhibit Talbert Exhibit No. 1 651 . „ asjictance would h.'rdsr an iz:vac;ti£iticu ur^er v.-jT, ccr vhea cuob infoi-^i.'uic:; conccrr^sd Doparfco^-uoi policy or parsoanal. ^.o General Craar covering tliis subcxct is net -croly t;-r:±Lccivc. Pi c.cci -o'i c"ic':;n! thco tha Cmccr ezj, if ho go chooCiCi, -cci:;-i -I;!.- ^;_c-j. 1!- i-a-w'.or places ca bir: a rcspoiisibility to IsrJL cctiva aG^i-"l:ar„„. Thora ara xa-aj' rcasoas for this rcc-eirciiaat aa:;i£-ia:ic-» o;;;^ C..^ a-..- :_:;!- constantly vorls uzider deadlines. ?requcn-ily, it ^.vjst arrive a-j x'.-.j _>,:,a^ and obtain what it necdo icaiediatoiy, or it is too lata for it to a; cJ ai^j valuo Llzo, as a D c?art-cr.-; '..'a deal uitli public arfairs. re ia tic r-;a-i of tli- public to knc-j about those affaira, ani oao of tla cc^t aca-urata ana uaaa'ul Gvonuas WQ have of supplying this infcriution is -cl-arouja --ha nava-~para aal radio ard television stations. ImpllGd in tha C-onaral Order Is a prchi'aition for tha Officar to Iriproparly attc-ipt to intarfors uith tha nev3 Eaaia rapraaantatiTOj v/ho ±J fa:.atia;-. '.•;;; in hie capacity as such. Such activity on tha ^x:rt of any Polica Cfficar 1^ regarded 1:^ tha presa as an infriagEsnt of ri;;ht3, ana tha Dcpar-iiiant alara- this vie*'. vi-ihin.a weak wa Iriva recaivad juatifisd ccnplain'cs th..t -ci-bars of r-i^'ica this Departiiant hava actively interferad with ncwanan in tha:ia.* propar perfori_ino3 of thair dutiaa» pictures of persona involved in an autcnobile accidano -^aa uainj l_i taldj::^ tasta* The Officer is entitled to his opinion. Es nay balisva wha- a- chooass. But ha must onarciaa great caution that his paroonal cpinicaa do not lead bin into iupropar official ac'cion. pcraan, to viola ta "oha lav in our presanoas. But ua l^ava not bean appointed tha supar^.-iaors of tha taatea of tha nava r:adia. Ws 1—ve no ri^ht to ia.poao what wo baliiva to be a proper sense of responaibili'cy on anyona. Cur standard n.ust ha tha lav. If a law has basn brohea, or we have raaacnabla causa zo baliova one ia about to ha hrol^n, we hava tha reapor-aibility to In anotlier inst-...aa newanen ^.'are leapt at tha econo of a paliaa inaaiant -^crs mora -ihan an hoiir a-.raitin^ tha arrival of spacialists who weuld as5ur.a cci_.an; of the invost-lr;av,ior. hafora tbfiv wera pari-ittcd to talca picturaa. "hay varo not barred frca 'che scene. They were paraitted to approach as clcacly aa thay would hava needed to tales their picturea. But thay w-ra not p_r;aittcd to -caka thcae pictures. Thay believed this to ba another infrin„-ent of thai? ri^ht^. Tha Dapartsent agraco. no ri^ht, of coursa, 'io permit :-.v.-..c.i:.. onto privato property •..•.:_„ :: IJo l-j:va cwnor of such property does not want -ohe- o_^.-a. -hia -cl.a neva::an u:-.l.:.-w_ — is in the past, information concerning policy of tha Depar-anont or of i — poracnnol will ba raleaf^ed by the Chief of Poliosj or by his authoriaei reprcscntativa . But nswazian have a right to cover incidents coaurrinj in a public placa wi'ihout unwarranted intorference by tha policoo General Crdar £1, which sovems tha contact of the Officer and tha -ae".. should ba cbaycdj just a —H other rules and ragulatiena of tha Zi: .- ehculd ba obeyed* The iiipertanao tha Dapartaent places on -his canna-. _- _- overaKpha3ic;cl^ lu ;:ill ba naaessiry i:: tha futura for violation cf th~ General CtxLc? to ba ccn:;laarcd ai adcquito causa for diaoiplinary action* ^"^" ""' "^ Talbcrt, Cecil Z. Siiibit 2 652 Talbebt Exhibit No. 2 FO-J02 (n.».s.3.s») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATluN / p,«, r.nv(^.mh(^r PS. 1Q6^ Captain CECIL TALBE^T, Radio Patrol Divsion, Dallas Police Department, Dallas, Texas, stated that on November 24, 19^3, he utilized 18 officers of the Dallas Police Department and 25 reserve officers for setting up the security of the removal of LEE HAR\rEY OSl-IALD from the Dallas City Jail to the Dallas County Jail. He stated that the route to be taken vas from the Dallas Police Building to North Central fexpressvray, left on North Central Express^^ay to Elm Street, left on Elm Street to Houston Street and left one -half block ^o the Dallas County Jail. He stated that no reserve officers were utilized I'A the basement of the Police Building and that he had made the following arrangements as to checking the security of the basement. In the Dallas Police Building, there is a J6il elevator which stops in the basement of the Police Building and leads directly onto the loading ramp. This ramp is on the driveway that runs from "Main Street to Commerce Street through the Pplice Building or under the Police Bxiildlng partially under the City Hall Building. Thie ramp leads off of Main Street at street level, goes down an incline to the basem.e^t level where there is a parking area and a loading rarap. This drive exits on the Commerce Street side.' There are two passenger elevators and one service elevator which comes f 3D m the sub-basement up^tothe base- ment in the parking area of the basement Just off of the loading ramf^ • Capt&iH TALBERT stated that tie se were tho^joughly secured by regular Dallas patrolmen in order to see that no one had hidden in them. He stated that two officers were placed on the Commerce Street side at the street level of the drive which extends into the basement of the Police Building. He stated that one officer was stationed at the entrance of the drive into the police building at the Wain. : Si'reet entrance. He stated that all cars except police cars were moved out of the peirking etrea in the basement. He stated that the air conditioning dock was examined to see that no one ^ps hidden in lt»>.;. Captain TALBERT said that all people were ordered out of the basement except newsmen and police officials. He Estimated that at the time. Captain WELL FRTTZ and his detectives brought down OSWALD from the jail to the basement where he was to be loaded into the vehicle which /TV/ would carry him to the County Jail. There were ap^ oximately I50 news l^ ^ ' reporters and television camermen. Captain TALBERi' stated thd; he had -y\ Jiy-'-' instructed his men to check all newspaper: reporters and television ^"^ -^l- X men for their passes and to see that they had credit news media ^. / ,^ i'-''"/- passes. He stated in the rush, to get down into the basement where ''\ iii/>\< ' on 11/25/63 o, Dallas, Texas v Fil» # DI^>'^-l639 ^jj^ by Sp.ciol Agent VINCENT E. DRAPT/.^n 1/^^ Da,e dicfot.d 11/2^/6^ property ol Ih. FBI ond U loan.d to Thl. document contain, n.lthef r.comm.ndollon. nor conclusion. o« th. FBI. It 1. th« your ag.neyj It ond It. content, or. "-< to b. dl.trlbut.d out.l da Yv.^. -w--. • -J" ».".J-mJl,- ' xeno; ^.!.B-'...'J! - [JliinliV COPY I 'rr.--ry\ — • J:x.No.5066 TAI£ERT,C.E. Depoiitioi ^ Dallas 3-24-64 TALBERT Exhibit No. 5066 654 — iL U4-1639 he loading ramp was loca-faad. and OSWALD wa^ "being "broiight down from the ai], it is highly possible -^hat JACK RUBY may have walked down the ran^) 1th the newspaper men unnoticed. Ha.. stated the re^ was a lot of oonfusSSap ^d pushing. ^Captain TALBERT stated that he knew of no exact time that iaptain FRITZ was to move OSWALD since the United States Secret Service lad been interviewing on the morning of November 2k, I963. According o Captain TALBERT, Captain WILL FRITZ was in charge of the removal of. fSWALD to the Dallas County Jail and the attempted removal of the jrisoner OSWALD was about 11:20 A,M,, November 2k, I963. Captain ALBERT stated that he had placed patrolmen along the route properly, ity Jail to the County Jail, at what he considered strategic pointSij hose points being where the autopiobile i^ould have to slow down for j' orners. ' . Captain TALBERT stated tHat he had no idea as to how JAfe ^ U^Y got into the basement and was ad close as he was to the prisoner, SSJLD. He stated that at the time OSWALD was shot, he was ^ot in a osition to see who shot hiln and he thought for a moment it night ave been a Dallas Police Officer. Captain TALBERT stated that he ad no idea as to what caused the secujrity breakdown* 'M - ' Wp« - -.-,. . • — I :. - 9nrw!f' 'in Talbebt Exhibit No. 5066 —Continued 655 .,m'WM..^-EmBmm»^'^i^M.lMM I m^^^m- J£x.No.^067 TAIB£RT,C.£. Deposition- Dallas 3-2A-6A DL 44-1639 "November 26, W3 VMr, J. E. Cxirry Chief of Police "Subject: Security Of Police Parking And Prisoner Loading Area Sunday, November 24, 1963 "Sir: "At approximately 9:00 A.M., Sunday, November 24, 1963 I discussed tlie need for coverage against possible violence around the City Hall with Lieutenant R. S, Pierce, I in- strucited him to call three squads from their district assignments from the three stations and pull four from Headquarters Station, getting two man squads where possible. The officers were to be in Central Station with their squad cars parked on the street, available for immediate vise but dispersed in parking, not later than 9:30 A.M. Out of thirteen squads we obtained a total of nineteen (19) patrolmen. Supervisors at the station for the security were Lieutenant Pierce, Serjeant P.T. Dean, Sergeant Putnam, Sergeant Steele, and 1. Lieutenant Wiggins was in the Jail Office. "Lieutendnt Pierce instructed Sergeant Dean to secure all entrances and exits to the parking and prisoner loading area, fehan clear the basement of all personnel other than police, iihd resezrves. Sergeant Putnam was instructed to assist in the assignment. "Ihe area in which the prisoner Oswald would be escorted was to be thoroughly searched. Areas searched wete the cars parked in the basement, including their trunks, and engine c jmpartments , the tops of all pipes, and air conditioning ducts, Talbert Exhibit No. 5067 656 DL 44-1639 service rooms opening into the basement were to be looked into /J% after clearing them of personnel. The building elevators were ^t^ off on the first floor so they could.not be used to reach the basement and the parking attendants were sent from the basement to the first floor of the City Hall with Instructions to remain with the elevators to prevent tampering, Ihe City Hall • service elevator is a self-servljce type but had an operator. This man was instructed that he was not to go below the • Eirst floor xmtll notified. The service ^levator .frpm^ the sub '''. ' basement of the Police and Courts Building exit, itito the basement parking area and hds no doors to lock so a reserve off icer was stationed there. / ', "The sergeants used a total of seventeen (17) regular and reserve officers to execute the search. The extra officers were held in the sergeant's room at my office and the reserves were retained in the assembly room. These officers were not per- mitted In the basement to insure no confusion In the systematic search. "After the area was secured and cleared only officers, reserves, and accredited news press were permitted to re- % enter. Identification of the news personnel was made by their press credentials. All civilian employees of the Department were cleared from the basement lobby and Instructed to remain at ^ their desk. "Officer R, C. Nelson and a reserve officer were stationed in the hall leading to the jail service windows. The door from the jail to the lobby remained locked and the public used the first window, set at an angle, to conduct jail business. "Detective Beaty and Lowery remained with the officers dxiring most of the period the parking and prisoner area was closed off • Everyone conducting business at the jail was scrutinized and j they did not appear to have legitimate btisiness, they were conducted from the basement. hi Talbert Exhibit No. 5067 —Continued 657 3 DL A4-1639 "There was little traffic on Main and no one Idtering. A large crowd was gathering on Conmierce. I had everyone re- moved from the City Hall side (north) of Commerce to the south side. Sergeant Steele and Reserve Harrison checked the buildings opposite the basement drive for possible snipers. "The information received..frOm,the FBI by Captain Frazier was: two calls from males stated *one htondred of us will kill Oswald before he gets to the County Jail* 'Due to this and the crowds formation I built up my personnel on the Commerce Street side. "I called Homicide and told Detective Beck of the parking area check and asked if Captrain Fritz wanted \iniformed officers to proceed and follow the transfer vehicle. He said Captain Fritz was with the prisoner and they would let me know. I prepared three plain and three marked cars to use either type Homicide desired. "I was contacted by Chief Stevenson and Chief Lumpkin re- i garding an armored car. ifwas to back into the drive as far as possible from Commerce, when it arrived two more officers were staioned at the bottom of the Commerce Street ramp with in- structions that no one was to pass up or down the ramp after the prisoner passed them. Due to its height, the armored car could only be backed in a short distance, "Before^the arrival of the Armored Car, Chief Lumpkin, Chief jStevenson, and I discussed the route and traffic obstructions. .They were reportedly six hundred (600) people around the ^ County Jail. I instructed Sergeant Steele to place a regular off Iper at efcb traffic light with his squad car close by. The lead car would flash Its lights as they approached and the officer would cut all opposing traffic. After the vehicle passed they were to enter thelr< cars and follow to the County J4 Talbebt Exhibit No. 5067 — Continued 658 4 • ' . .. ; , DL 44-1639 "to assist with any trouble. The entire traffic Retail was In' the Cotxnty Jail Area. "Sergeant Steele contacted Captain Lawrence for additional officers for intersection coverage. As the vehicle cleared the. city hall all officers and reserves at the City Hall were to report by a parallel route to the County Jail. X would use Channel IWo and tell Sergeant Steele to cut it. He had a PBotorcycle officer to send to Elm and Field to instruct the officers on the comers to divert all traffic from Elm between • Fie Id. and Houston. Regular traffic was heavy. '~ .. "After the Armored Car arrived we sent a plain car out the (lain Street side. This was the lead car and contained Lieutenant Pierce driving, Sergeant Putnam on the right front, and Sergeant B, J, Maxey in the rear. ' "A Homil:ide Detective pulled a plain car on the ramp behind the armored car then another Homicide Detective pulled in behind tiim and attempted to straighten his car and back up. Several .; reserve officers and I were attempting to push the news people back to give the vehicle room to manxiever. I was pushing several people back at the left front fender when the shot was fired. X assisted the officers in clearing news per* sonnel from the prisoner and officers who were down then ordered that no one was to be peirmitted out of the basement. "I checked thd parking area several times and saw no un* authorized personnel. X ^removed a number of people from the first floor and basement lobby, this was a continious check prior to the transfer. "After the prisoner entered the ambulance and X gathered my personnel froa Eln lind reported to Parkland Hospital, we secured the hospital. > - * 5 .-• - ' . DL 44-1639 ' ^ ' "Respectfully sxibmltted. /s/ Cecil E. Talbert Captain of Police ' ,, Patrol Division* Talbert Exhibit No. 5067 —Continued 659 1 , FO.308 (R.Y.3.s.$») (^ ^ FEDERAW BUREAU Or (t^ViEST^ ^.TtOM 1 ^ n,,,^ 12/10/63 Captain QECT.L E. VALBERT, Dallas Police Departnsnt voluntarily i"urni.^h.i;d ~che foilo'.ur.g information: When he arrived for duty at 5:00 AM on November 24, 1953, he was informed by Captain W. B. FRAZIER that the Dallas FBI Office and Sheriff BILL DECKER had called and informed that the FBI had received an anonymous call that LEE HARVEY OSWALD would be killed this date. Captain FRAZIER told him that he had attempted to contact Chief CURRY but had been unable to do so. TALBERT attempted to contact Chief CURRY by telephone and the telephone line was out of order. He directed a squad to Chief CURRY'S home with instructions for Chief CURRY to call him. At about 6:30 AM, Chief CURRY called and he relayed the above message to the Chief. Chief CURRY told him to get in touch with the FBI and Sheriff DECKER and inform them that he would be in his office by 8:30 or 9:00 AM and he wpuj.d contact them at that time. TALBERT telephonically contactevi the FBI and Sheriff DECKER and relayed Chief CURRY' s instruct;ion8. TALBERT could furnish no further information regarding any action taken by Chief CURRY or the Police Department regarding this matter. Dallas, Texas ^ . „ ril« w LANSING P. WGAN and by Sp.cial Afl.nt s ALTON E. BRAMBLETT - LAC 12/10/63 ^^^^ ^.^^^^^^ Thl« decunval eonlala« neither »comm*ndallens nof oonclualon* of th« FBI. II Is lh« proparly ol th» FBI and is loaned lo rour a«*Dori II and Us ooolanU are doI le b« dtatrlbuUd oul«td« your agency. ^ . ... «Ji^.No.5068 TALBERT,d " Deposition- nnlloo TALBERT Exhibit No. 5068 660 TD.302 (R.Y. 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION y JV V D^,^ D.^c€^xber 11, 1963 ^ C&ptato CECIL E. !I-A::,BERT, I-atrol Division^ Dallas, Tex.\3.,Police De}-«>rt.sierjt5 w-ss J.r.twftd at h.la plac« of residence, 1211 Tolt-c., Dallas, Texis, at which time he fuTOlsh*d the following information p^rbais^ing to rrovember 24, 1963^ tha d^y thtt LEE HAR//2i' OSWALD was shot in fch« biseneat of the City H:5.11 s advi3f?d thxt 0L1 Kovft5nber 24 , 1963 5 h« report sd H«j' ac the Dall>3iS Police Kcadqu&rt/irs which is locit^d in City Hall for his n-igul.-^rly scheduled duty. It was on or around 9e00 a.m,^ that morning, aictirog on his own behalf ^ he began T.o rcAke sc^tr.c* arrfir.g'*ni(»?its for th© transfer of OSWALD. Although CiptAin TALBE.FS? w^a aot con;a«tely awire of .Ul thft specific det^ills cowcerMliag the tra?i3fs^r of OSWALD from the City J^,il to th^" Cou^vVy J^.il^ he dscid-d theit h* would begin to initi&te his pl&a of coverage for th* trargfep His first step aloKg this lln& c*,Ke at approximatelv 9^00 &,ia'., whes he beg.^K to discuss the coverage &nd security of the trinsf'^r with Lt. R. S. FIEJ^r^I., who he identified as being coKrc?.r.der of Cej:,tra:i !f--.,*d;jv..:irter3 Division Area. Aft^r -a brief diaciisisio'.^., C-jpt. 'I'l^liB^^ directed Lt<. PITSCS to '"^"'''•^*3 -^''•''« ^i'J^*ir' district assigr^ments frozi the three ^^A it^'^ differeiiit Bt^tlons ;*,.nd to tak* four iMividuals from headqusrt.ers stAtio«„ Kia p:i>,R was to obtain at least two m-.r. from e^ch STu&d s^t this tir;e, Z:h^ crlgi-rial plan and *^^^^^'"^^ '^^^ ^^^^'^^ hM-£',!,?-^fl yv\v^^^-^'-^2 *^« police-officers b-i-.g made avnilable for the tn^sfer were to report to Cer.v.rai Station with the equAd cars parked in the iirimediate t«!LP' ^^"°^ the cirs were needed. All officers were to report ar.d hAve th.*ir cars parked la position: prior to i^or^ps. Although he could act be positive Lipic, ^^-l^"^ ki^ ^^i^EhL WHS quite sure th&t the mjority of office-'s involved were av?.ilable by 9s30 a.in„. ba-rin/a few i^di^fd^-^T^ l^.?J^^ ^r^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^'^--^-^ l«te. l^'regiS to this Saf ?St r>^ ^ W^ *^^^^ he obtained a total of 19 Pa^roiRen T5^^.^5'^^=^^ idejjtifi«d these iy.dlviduals as followss pat?olRen'aSand r/^^^^ -^ / M. L. WISS K^^G^ ('"i)- L, G, TA^.OR C't B. G. FAl'-rERSON L, E. JEZ R. E. VAVGmi ^f> , 12A0/63 ^, Dall.*B, Texas Dallas 44^l6?9 p.,^ ^ ALTON E. BRAMKL.E:i=T & " Sp'cioi AgenP 1^1^52.^ ?. T-Ot-^^-f '-^T. Dote dictated n/-,.-//g3 - ni« doeuio.nt contoln* neither recommendation, nor w concIuBionJ .TTv Mr, «;nAQ a«ency| It and Ite eom.nte are not to be dlelrlbuled outeMe y-C'^C.NO . 5Ub9 TATncDT r 1? TALBERT,C.E. n * • DepOSltXOn. • Talbert Exhibit No. 5069 661 DL 44-1639 . DL 44-1639 3 that he had two of his supervisors search the Immediate area on the basement level of city hall and that the two supervisors In charge of this were Sgt, PUTNAM and Sgt P. T. DEAN. . Although he could not recall the exact time, Capt. TALBERT stated he had discussed the search of the area with the two supervisors prior to the transfer. At the time of their discussion he could recall both DEAN and PUTNAM had advised him that the search included ' the cars, trunks of cars, tops of pipes, entrances and exits, w-sre all checked with negative results. Nothing unusual was found during the check and he could recall being satisfied with the area search. Capt. TALBERT went on to say that he personally checked the doors leading off the basement level to insure that they were all locked. In regard to other security measures that were taken by Capt. TALBERT he stated that the city basement elevators of which there are two, were both"shut off" and this was done by means of a key. He explained this by saying that the elevators were adjusted so that they could not be operated below the level of the first floor of city hall. The service elevator which ha s an operator, was instructed not to pass the level of the first floor. Capt. TALBERT stated he could not recall the name of this particular operator, but felt it was something like "MITCHELL" or "MICHAEL." In regard to this, all city hall employees who were not police officers were cleared from the area including- the parking attendant, whose nlckrsame he could recall as being "KING." He could recall that "KING" was sent to the first floor prior to 10:00 a.m. that morning. After the search had been conducted and the area cleared of all individuals other than authorized, Capt. TALBERT personally continued to check the area to Include the Commerce Street exit leading from the basement area. He explained that the authorized personnel were those police officers who were to assist in the transfer as well as all news personnel who presented proper credentials. Capt. TALBERT could recall that during the course of the morning two news individuals were brought to him because they did not have press credentials. After a check of these two individuals, he determined that both were authorized newsmen and were permitted to stay on. He added that this check of news media representatives was one of several that was conducted during the morning hours prior to transfer of OSWALD. Capt. TALBERT further advised that during the morning hours, prior to the transfer, he could recall that regular I Ibuslness was being carried on at the Jail office. All individuals c/^^r e^ Talbert Exhibit No. 5069 —Continued 663 DL 44-1639 h cor.du ting business at the Jail office were checked and if it app'^ax-ed that they were authorlz«5d they wsrc allowed to complebo their business. He could specifically state that the Jail office business vjas light that morning and very few Individuals were actually conducting business. He could not recall if this business was being carried on at the time of OSWALD'S transfer. Prior to the transfer, exact time he could not recall, r.Apto TALBERT telephonlcally contacted the Homicide Section And advised Detective BECK that the parking area was checked e\d if Capt, FRITZ would desire to have uniformed officers proceed and follow the transfer vehicle which he still believed was to be the armored car. Ha was told that Capt. FRITZ was still interviewing OSWALD and that if anything v;as needed alor^.g this line he would contact him. Imjnediately thereafter, Capt, TALBERT prepared three plain police cars and three marked cars for the purpose of escort if desired. Subsequently, Chief STF\/ENSON and Chief LUMPKIN contacted Capt. TALBERT and advised that the armored car that was to arrive for the purpose of transfer should be backed into the ramp way leading from Commerce Street as far as possible. Upon arrival of the armored car it was noted that because of its weight, the armored car could only back in a short distance and in order to maintain the security measures, Capt. TALBERT assigned two officers, one on each side of the armored car, to insure no one would either leave or enter from that ramp way. Although Capt, TALBERT was not aware of the officers' identity at that time, he later learned that Sgt. P. T. DEAN and Officer R. A. WATKINS were assigned to each side of the armored car. Capt. TALBERT further advised that Just prior to the arrival of the armored car. Chief LUMPKIN, Chief STEVEblSOli and Capt, TALBERT discussed the route and traffic obstructions that he may encounter during the transfer. Although he had no personal knowledge of the number of individuals around the county Jail, Capt, TALBERT was advised by an unlaiown police officer that there were approximately 6OO people in the vicinity of the county Jail, He added that Sgt. STEELE was Instructed to place a police officer at each traffic light and to maintain their cars at a close distance. His plan was that the lead car would flash its lights as they approached and the officer who was assigned to the comer would be able to cut off all oncoming traffic. He explained that after the vehicle had cleared the intersection the police officers stationed at -tlkiv variouB points wera to follow in their cars to give assistance —Continued Talbert Exhibit No. 5069 664 DL 44-1639 5 If tjeeded. Capt. TALBERT could also recall that upon arrival of the armored car at the Commerce Street exit, a plain car with three detectives were sent out the Main Street ramp way so as to be in condition in front of Armored car for purposes of escort. Capt. TALBERT identified the occupants of this cpr as being Lt. PIERCE^ who was at that tine driving^ Sgt. -^. A. PUTNAMj who was in the right front seat; and Sgt. E, J. MAXEi who was in the left rear scat. He was later informed by Lt. PIERCE that it was approximately five minutes prior to the shooting of OSWALD that they had proceeded from the basement level of City Hall. Lt. PIERCE advised Capt. TALBERT that his route was out the Main Street exit^ left on Karwood Street, and then over to the Commerce Street exit of the basement. Although Capt. TALBERT could not be absolutely sure of the exact positions of each of the police officers assisting in this transfer, he did recall that Sgt. PUTNAM was stationed in the center of the ramp way and was trying to clear the news media that had congregated at this point. He could recall that Lt. WIGQINS was inside the Jail office but was not aware of his exact duties in the Jail office. He later learned that Just prior to the arrival of LEE HARVEY OSWALD in the basement area, Lt. WIGGINS had received a phone call from the Homidde Section who advised that Capt. FRITZ was on his way to the basement level of City Hall with OSWALD. Lt. WIGGINS had advised him that the Homicide Section had asked him if everything was ready, at which time replied in the positive. Capt. TALBERT related that Just prior to the transfer of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, which he estimated to be approximately 11 ;IiO a.m., he noticed a Homicide detective, name unrecalled, pull a plain car on the ramp way behind the armored car and then observed another Homicide detective, name unrecalled, who pulled in behind him with another plain car. Although he did not know the Identities of these two detectives, at this time, he later learned that the first car was being driven by C, W. BROWN and the other car was driven by CHARLES DHORITY. He observed that the second car, driven by Detective DHOHn% was attempting to straighten as well as back into position for th« transfer. £J^ J\ —Continuetl Talbekt Exhibit No. 5069 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 44 665 DL 44-1639 6 Capt. TALBERT could recall that he was standing at the left front fender of the car that DKORITY was driving, and was attempting to clear the area of the people that had congregated. He stated that news media Individuals were as close as two or three feet from the rear of the police car and for this reason was trying to clear the area. Although Capt. TALBERT did not actually see LEE HARVEY OSWALD being •*FCorted from the basement level, he did hear a pistol shot during the time he was attempting to clear the congested area. He immediately turned to observe what had happened and noticed that several police officers were struggling with an individual whom he could not Identify at that time. It was not until after the shooting that Capt. TALBERT realized that the individual identified as JACK RUBY had actually shot LEE HARVEY OSWALD. Ijnmedlately following the shooting of LEE HARVEY OSV/ALD, Capt. TALBERT stated that he talked with Chief CHARL""S BATCHELOR and asked him at this time if he could arrane^e to have all the individuals in the basement area assemble in the assembly room for purposes of a search. He explained this by sayln_g that he '^5'-^ ."tiot aware of the fact that the pistol -i^lth whloI'i-JlUBY had shot OSWALD was in possession of the police officers. He later was advised by Detectives GRAVES that the gun had been recovered and that there would be no need to assenblethe individuals for the purpose of a search. Capt. TALBERT then obtained several pads from the Jail office and instructed Sgt. F/ERETT to obtain the names and addresses of all individuals in the basement area. Although he could not recall the exact time, Capt. TALBERT stated that he had Instructed Sgt. EVERETT prior to the arrival of the ambulance and later learned that the names and addresses of the individuals were not obtained as directed. Capt. TALBERT further advised that shortly thereafter, h-5;proceeded to the Pai^klasid-Hospltal with other officers to initiate security measures at the hospital. He stayed at the hospital until approximately 5^30 p.m. that day at v;hich time he returned to the police headquarters. He could not recall the exact time, but Capt. JAMES M. SUTER relieved him and the remaining officers around the area. He estimated this ti»e to be approximately 6:45 p.m. that day, and stated that he thereafter left for his home. —Continued Talbert Exhibit No. 5069 666 DL hk-l639 7 In regard to hlfl particular dsslgnneRfc^ Capt. TALE3R*' advised th*tt. he w-is actJKg on his own behalf con- cerning thft 3*curlty meas-area And WiS not instructed by any particular superior" as to what he was or was not to do. At no tinia prior to th* proposed trasnfer, did Capt. TALBERT receive any specific ii-^o at ructions concerning the d-stails of the transfer ar.d most of this information was obt?»inftd during the course of the moriraing. Gapto TAIjEERT continued to say that he has never worked for JACK R'JBY in any way whatsoever^ but had heard throi:tgh rumor that aim individual by the name of "COX", who WAS alleged to be a reserve officer^ was at one time employed by JACK ROBY. He stated that he could not base this on any particular faict and hsd only heard this through rumors oHo could off<5r no information pertaining to any association between JACK RUBY and any Dallas police officer and felt that the only connaction would be that of any normal association. He explained this by saying that several of the police officers are required to check night clubs and for this reason there would be a chance that several police officers would know of hin only as a night club owner. Capto TALBERT stated that he felt he could not estimate the nujnber of individuals that were in the basement level of City Hall either prior to the transfer of LEE HARVEZ OSWALD or after the shooting had taken place. He was ,f»ot Tvsrticularly concerned over the exact number who were present and stated that his only Intentions were to maintain the security measures. He was iMfole to identify any of the news media representatives who were in the basteent level at the time of the transfer. In regard to any background information concerning JACK PJJBYj Capt, TALBERT stated that he was never personally acquainted with JACK RUBY and when he did see RUBY he could only recall that it was a familiar face. He related that he could not associate the name with the face and was not aware that RUBY was a night club owner In the Dallas area. Subsequent to the shooting of OSWALD^ Capt, TALBERT was reminded by Lt. PIERCE that they had seen JACK RUBY approxi- mately two years ago Ramada Inn Pancake House but could not recall any clrcuBstances surroxinding this meeting. He stated that CO the best of his recollection he did not talk to RUBY at this time. DL 44-1639 8 Capt, TAIiBERT continued to say that he did not observe RTJEYprior to the transfer and did not at any time talk with RUBY either before or after the shooting of LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He advised that he could offer no information pertaining to LEE HARVEY OSWALD and was not aware if there was any relationship between RUBY and OSWALD, The first time he had heard the name of LEE HARVHT OSWALD was shortly after the assassination of President KENNEDY on November 22^ 1963, In regard to this entire matter concerning the shooting of LEE HAR^/ET OSWAID on November 24^ 1963, Capt, TALBERT advised that he had prepared a statement which was submitted to the Chief of Pollcsp Dallas, aad that the infonaation that was furnished in thia statement was essentially the same information that he had Just now fuTMlehsd Interviewing Agents. Talbebt Exhibit No. 5069— Continued 667 Talbert Exhibit No. 5070 668 r^'o/s'^**?/^ iTy fL ( 4'-/ Tf.R V, JS him Oswald — I especially remember liim. Sec OSWALD-Page 4 KERRY THOItNI.EY in Russia and at- . "He didn't liave any close munism. remember one' Oswald" I time a master sergeant got (Continucd from Front Page) up on the tail-gate of a truck for a lecture of some type. Marines only made things Oswald remarked, in a Rus- worse with him. sian accent: 'Ah, another col- ' My main conclusion in the ilectivist farm lecture' " book was that you can't train Oswald's favorite book at men to be killers, then give the time was George Orwell's them a half-hour lecture, send "1934," a bitter satire on 20th them to Japan and expect century trends toward totalita- them to be good little boys. rianism, Thornley said. "Stuff like this in the Ma- "I read it at his recommen- ' rines sets up a kind of schizo- ^ dation. phrenic reaction. "With a person like Oswald, "HE WAS always drawing who was probably a little between the Marine parallels psychotic to begin with, this Di.a'd Request-eel Corps and '1934,' something I only makes things worse." j thought funny, seeing as the '.-"U Membership 1 book is pretty much a slap I ST PATERSON, N. J. THORNLEY SAID a mutual against communism." — The American Civil interest in books and bull ses- Was Oswald the assassin -iics I'n.on says that 18 sions," drew him to Oswald. type? before President Ken- "He was very well read and "Well, he was vei7 re- | I read alot. We'd get togeth- was s', .ill, Lee Harvey sentful of the military; he was er in the afternoon, he and il. .,ild, his ^i-cused assassin, I very much the man who and six or seven others. We | | .:.'pUcd for .CLU member- | would 'play' the part of an discussed politics and religion 'assassin. j I The org;!n:^:..:on a said and such. "But, I'm not sure he still I c'.ork car.-,c across Oswald's | "He said he thought com- committed the assassination. ,- .:icat.on vcslcrday among | 1 munism \vas the best religion. Ho never showed any tend- | j.'jI others. .\ono had been en- 1 "But there was always this ency toward violence. He was I icrcd on membership lists, the satirical, half-mocking atti- 'more of a talker than any- i .•\CLU said. I tude he took. You couldn't thing else. . tell whether he was really "I saw the picture of his serious or not. getting shot ... a man I | knew, who was sort of a "HE HAD a wonderful sense | pathetic individual . . . :.ce- ; of humor. I don't think this ing him get a slug in Ine ; was ever brought out in what bellv. This got me. j I've been reading about him.. "He was a sort of poor | "He often joked about com- soul." ! Thobnley Exhibit No. 1 r V I ^" r \ ^- ? ^ 1 'X ^ i ^ .ll^ "^""^^"^^ O^^ "^^ Tobias (Mahlon) Exhibit No. 2 671 l^ \ -MJz^l^Vl n ^ ^'f- 1^ li A % O H 1^ i; Tobias (Mks. Mahlon) Exhibit No. 1 672 r^^/J^iP ^^r^i ^ k/ ^ ^ ^ ToMUNSON Exhibit No. 2 673 ^ u- /MC^9u>/P4y ,19JP^ ^"^^ Tormey 1 .^^-^^ X^^^Ji K^^ "^^ '.^-^c •4 .^ ToRMEY Exhibit No. 1 s^^-^Tt-A^ ^' CiS^^'Z^ :^ :^ . GUS HALL r^u^/ a^ ^^y ^^^^ ^1^ ^^^ ToBMEY Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 674 — The Gus Hall Benjamin J. Davis Defense Committee END McCARRANISM Davis The Gus Hall— Beniamin J. Defense Committee END McGARRANISM ToRMEY Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 675 "•nr--^si™'."- Davis The Gbs Hall—Beniamin J. Defense Commit+ee END McCARRANISM ToRMEY Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 676 Deoember 13* 1962 Mr, Lee H, Oswald Box 291^ Dallas, Texas Dear Friend: V/eare in reoeipt of the samples of photo- graphio work you sent us, V/adeeply appreciate your offer to do this type of work for us as your contribution to our activity. We are putting this material on file so that we can make reference to it in the event that any such need arises. Thanks again* Sincerely, HALL-DAVIS DEFENSE COMMITTEE James J, Tormey, Executive Secretary JJTibco Cl^oS^/m^v^ J«^v^5 -^. cH 7.r Torme y Exhibit #2 ToKMEY Exhibit No. 2 677 — F. M. Tomer Exhibit 1 •ovcr.hQr ?;?, 1-^63 ArtlclofT • IcVpd up at rwrrsct's hoii'^o, 1076 Vorth PccVley Tby Tnmar, Pott*:, ?'ooro, 8n>-^ "f-ntceli fearch V'orrant CV; 29? IssTjed by Judr^e Tavia Johnston 1 pafr Msc'rc r.hoo9 1 pair Vrown sVooa 1 rnlr thon,^ choea 1 portable rodio (>.vciuct) 1 roll wax fopcr (Kite; on cVarr.) i^cvoral article* of clot/ in:, tcwcln, wash cloth* 1 pair broT-n cottoa gloves 1 tlua Bhavin).- kit, plaslic-liko clotii, vith £ip7X>r containing silac>.- laneoiis chavint: article n qimL two bcxc-o of Pentloo "LCD" flavored per. cillin powder 1 brosm loather holster, "3'^" 1 book paper back "A ntudy of Th« V^ZV and C cjr-.uni ^rs" 1 brnvm pnnllla Pivelcrxi contaln'nr' wl^colancoxis papers, books, and pflr^rhlat"? 1 T^.nn.'^B-7ort v.ort^- CUv ^'ap 1 ^f'-^rfflf?" KvA pbor,r^, f^T, x 20, Serial /'?91995, in brown ): leat'eratt'' csr-r; v, 1 Oorrrn, 1 rv:--i8r., 1 fhonlca 1 y'unttni^ knife, black ha --.die In lro%.n eh.eath Mat of papora recover«cJ at 10?6 "crth PocVleyi Letter to Leo Orwald, hPOT ?'a.-02^ne trcot, Ncv CrleanR, .^upurt 2, l!:63» ' from Jflfl-uit FouM of "tudios, '"prinp i'lll rotation, >'obilo, AlaVara, Letter to L, K. Oswald, \\ '.:, ""ox J 061, '^fw CYloann, Lordclana, July 31» 1963, from CctrOTnist '^arty, 'J. S. A., 23 Woot 2tth fTtreet, -ev ^ork IC, Hew yoir'<» J'f'-5-575? r«<7ardin.3 I-'air Play for Cuba aignod by Arnold Johncon, Another letter dated ropter.ber 9, 1963. A letter datod r'«cor:Vcr 13, 1962 to Lao K, Ofrwald rceardinc photoprapby 'from Gus !;all. Ponjatdn J. TavlB D«>fenaa CorrKittce, F.oon 122$, 22 Cast 17th 'Street, N'ov York 3, .Ne^ x'ork. A letter dated Pccfl-rber 19# 19^? to Otvold at ?, 0. T^ox 2'/l5, rallaf5, /letter from Tb_o '-rrVwr, ?3 Vest ?6th Ncv York 11, Now York, sifted ^ by Louln Vcin:»tock, A letter from ?oter V, Ore'^nry, 1^03 Continent «1 Tiuildinr, Fort orth 2, • Tera", dated J>3no 19, 19''^2, rocoTurendinf Oswald a« an interpreter of tV* Pu^rtan l?»n«ni«r«. A,lptt«r dated T'py 29, I'^O, from Pftir noy for C>jba Con-rrlttoo, 7*^9 ^ li 'T>^ondvny V«v York 3. 'Vw Tork, Fbono nPo^an 1-229'?- Cm-ald's sc':rcT.s on T'a.rstlne "^trfj^t In ''f©w Orloanf, Another letter fra^ sara orranlra- tion dated Kay 22, l'>f3. Fair Play for Cuba clrcilarf" and receipt frorr. Jone'o Prlntini? C-jsrany Turner (F. M.) Exhibit No. 1 678 Jlover.^cr ??, I9f3 Continuation of list of articles picV-dd up at cuspoct'c boucei Pa.^e 2 of 2 A letter froK ^oclolint V-orVcor Forty, 116 University Place, Now xork, 3, ;.'ow York, AL ^-7h60, thlc lctt«r dated .'•'ovwatar $, 1962, rej;ardin£: EeTr,l;©rchip into party. Minoellanoous photos In scall envolope* U, S, Paarport dated Juno ?$, 1963, PAjsFlan passport, MlRc<*llan«ou8 papora vrlttan in Pu?Plnn, Birth Certificate - fllOJh ^srir^ of OrlaanR - C«rond«lRt and Tafayatto Street, Leo Karvey Ocvald, son of Popart F, Lee Oj«vald, (Poc.) and "arc;uorito Claverie, torn l^t>i of October, 103<^. Letter dat«d Jnno ??, 196?, from Johrny Tackett of Fort 'orth Press rccardinp an Inteirviov, TTndesiroM© Tischar?© froa; V. *", K. C, 9-13-^0, 1 lirown skirt with button-down collar, X pair gray trousers and ot^ier iBiscelloneouc nan's clothing. Turner (F. M.) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 679 -I — ,— -, '"''""'' ^Tit 2 5c for pamphlets NEW YORK LAB0R NEWS COMPANY 61 CLIFF STREET P.O. Box 76 NEW YORK 38, N.Y. I^^iford ffidiiblt Bo. ,:%=- ^--^ TwiroRD Exhibit No. 1 t4-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 45 681 ' J [s •V 1 I ^ ^ T\7ifora adiibit No. 1 TwiFORD Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 682 . , DL 4^-1559 l9o3 Mr*. J. S. Curry Chief 01- Police "Su'^Jact: Assisnment of Officer Roy S. Vaughn #1539 Suncay, Kover.-."Dcr 2h, I963 "Sir: "At appro:cir.ately 9:00 A.M. V;l-ilc workinc; Aquad I05, Officer Roy E."vaushn received a call to call Extcr.sior. 511. Officer L. C. Taylor advised me to report to the Ci-cy Kail and to park the squad car on the street and report to Station 511. "At approxinatcly 9:15 A.M. or 9:30 A.M., Lieutenant R. S.- Pierce told Officers A. R. Brock and 3. G. Patterson; R. C. Kelson, and I to r^-port to Serjeant Patrick T. Dean in the bascxont of the City Kail. "Officer 3. G. Patterson and I v;erc instructed by Sergeant Dean to s^ard the north and south rar.ps of the City Hall. I v.'as as£i^ned to the Main Street Rair.p. "Durlns this time there v;erG several police vehicles v.'hich contained police officers that enterc-d the basenent by this rar.p "At ap;jro>:itr.atcly 10:15 A.M. S:-:-Poli;c Officer K. J. Daniels earns b: this location and rert.^ined until after the shooting occurr.-d. "At approxlr.atcly 11:18 A.M. a city squad car which contained Lieutenant Pierce, Sorseant Kaxey and Sergeant Putnam exited by this ramp. ., "At approximately 11:21 A. '-2. I heard v;hat sounded to be a ^not, I stayed by the post and allcv.'ed no one to enter or leave the basement area. Aft_-' the shooting, about five (5) police reserves were sent -co this ranio to assist v;ith the crowd and traffic. "At approxi-ately 12:i;5 P.M. a white male approached mo at this entrance and stated that he was an er.ployec of Jack Ruby and would like to talk to sonieone about this. I escorted VAUGK.^Pujy Deposition- Dallas ^-17-64 ^ Vaughn Exhibit No. 5334 2 3JL ^^-1639 •;;hls liorson to the basement of tho City Kail after beir.s roliovud 0.. r,y^po_t by a police reserve and called Captain Fritz's Off ice "and Detective Eoyd came to the basement and took cuii^ocy of thZLS person. "I con-^cjod l_eutcnant Pierce in tho Patrol Office and he acvisedrre -co Secure the po-t anc re -cum to service v;ith the Dispatcher. "Respectfully sub..-.ittcd " /c /s/ • S. Vaughn .-loy Patrolman #1539 'RSV/bb" Patrol Division" Vaughn Exhibit No. 5334 —Continued ra.ioi (iiov.3-3.s3) FHDCRal SuaJ^.U Z:- ;^•Vil2"iGAT;0;^! :,.:ror..'.ction, s-ftcr bc_-- - ,.. . _^ ^_' i'l'-cj identity 02 ..l-.'.l'—-. ^•, / ^ l^odcrcl Eurcr-u oZ Investigation. lie v/t.s c-.dvi^:,c_ ;,::;:t no throats, . > -^ oi-orjxsos or durcGS would bo used to induce l.i..; -o _u--aisii any^ vN /- - ' ^ any inf oi'.v.atior. ho furnished >" < £;ato-ont. was also advised IIo t:^..t - --' la\; against his.'-^a o^ ^'-- r^C^.-t -- could 'oo lator used in a court o.' to an attorney. C ""> -. V.^UGZIJ, 3231 Losanwocd il^.'ivo, Dallas, advised ho is a " ; -Dr.trclrjan with Dallas Police Dcpai-tKont in tho Patrol Division. J , . V:.UG-::X advised that on Xovenbcr* 2^: , l£o3, ho v/as ridins in Dallas jh l ' ':. r'olico Do:;;artr.;ont car nur.jhcr 1C5 in a routine f.r.ci-ol duty. At v^ '^ a-^~ro::ir.-.atGly 9:00 Lll, ho received a radio call ire..; the dis- , "l"^cl-J- to innodiatoly call the statiqn, cxtor. — o:. 511, v/hich is r 'y< arjoroxicately five r.inutes after his arrival, LT. R, D. ^-2.:C11 car;o _^ -^ into the Patrol Office and gave ir--5 tractions to the r.en presen-c. > '> ^ ^^^ II3 advised the other officers present wore 3. G. PiLTTDllSOX, Patrolman, ?.. C. NZLSOi:, Patrolinan, A. ?.. EDOOIC, Patrolman. Ee advised he does not l:now the exact assir;n:r.cnt siven to the other officers but that ho v.a3 told to report to Serjeant P. T. D2AN, in the baser.-.ent of -.:. ^„ll-s Police Dopartcont Duildin^ and . toll Serjeant DZAN t„:-. v.h^:. "'-jhis thing is over" two patrolr:an sl-oulv- '^1 le'ft on d... -y ^1.0 basenient and th;- other two disr:issed. :l--. :::; „ ,'__„d he was nOw -.old \;:.at was going to h;.pp--"- -"'^'t suspected ii '...._ -n connection -..'f-Jh "cho transfer of LCD IL.DVDl' C3'.:.-.LD fror: the Dallas City Jail to the Dallas County Jail, as he had • heard this was to take place. He' ir.;r.2 diatoly reported to Sergeant DDAlx and to SDP.GDAirr J. A. PUTNAII, who was also in the baser:ent. At this tir.o there was a considerable ariount of television ecuip-ent and several people both polic© and persons dressed in civilian clothing in the basei::ent of the Police Departr-ont Duilding. lie advised that Sergeant PUTITA:: instructed hira to go -o the too of the rcr^-i at the Llain Street' entrance which would be on the* north aids of the building. His instructions were to ad::it no person cncept tho press and police officers and that no o-e w-'thout a oress 'oass or official -oolico credentials v/as to be Zi _ix.No.5335 VAUGi-IN,Roy De-oositioiu. Dallas 4-i7-64 ii/i/:3 /^Yi:0"D '11 » ISSI^DA, AA. ir rucor.-.riondctlcr.o nor ccncluulono ci tho Fai. It lo tho property of tho FBI ani lo Vaughn Exhibit No. 5335 684 , str.tion ct c:ppro::ir:r;,w.:. ly i-i\y . » ; •-;-•,': -: ..cu:.' ••• c strivO what in3t^ucwiOi^6 v/or.;:: iii-,.;.- .,.._,. :oIicC o l.-^--- .-. but ho believes thct ci^ficers E. G. -~It vc".,:^""' . '; '- . Cor.-.:.;orce Strcot oiitranco to the ra:.,> ., „.. .^^."'c c' . . . building. VAUGHN ;.dvised the tL^^t .-,,_.. o. -::L--g'--:i"" ;. ., ....:; tl".o Llairi Street ontranco \.:-.:; c _ ,; "'_,• '„ - . / Officer, assigned to the Licen:_.. .Jl..- /...I T'-gulZ ~V '. recall his n.-,r.:o. He adv:'3ed he- ., , ,;. ,...,. ,../ ', n' - - hiscroc>:,:itials which bore his i>-,.m;.- '•--""'*" .' ... L.^T, . t ir.;e CS'.-'ALp was brought out of ' t..vj ;.^y-._,._ ^...._:__- " _.. .^ . J- ! r.ent of the buildiag, the following* pcco.-.s '..-o.-c- ci'cL^.- L.t-Ic"" !!ain Street entrance and talked v/ith" hi:.-, or were acl/jittcc-^v^o^tho (1) A;;pro::iaateiy 10:30 :...:, a for..;^- ::-.ll:i^ :?olicc ll^-^art-ea^ Officer, na;_c: li. J. LJ^llULS, a ITesro ca::.„ co -.„ ,_. .-:,.-.cc'"of'"th'e"" nnp aad talhod to hia for a little v.-hile i.-cl _.:...„:..: a in the vicinity ur/cil after the shooti.ig occurred. l:.„:i^_S \;a3 aot- -er- 2 ittod entrance to the buildir.2. - • *^-^ "• "• •'.'ATXlirs, Patrolrnan, driving a patrol car'v.'i-ch four juvena-es ia custcay. ^p^ _^ _ -^;-- City doctor, na.v.e unknc-.va, who has offices in ::::.llas Police Departr-ent paddy wa^oa, driven by Officer y^},..^ -u^.-_^,an officer who works in ths jail on the fourth floor. "'-• connection with this, VAUGZIT noted that he stopped the paddy wa-on v/ith Officer LST/IS before ad:r,ittin2: hira and' ho noticed that when the paddy wa^on stopped in the baserjent Sergeant PUTilAZ searched , the back of the :?zc.dy v/ajon. (5) Officer G. 2. SP?.i::g: r:, drivin:^- a police squad car. C'^^ -C:.:::y who is known by V.VdCIZ: to be a city- CC?JiZ'f, or.ployed nechanic. CCP-BET was on business and was drivin^- a Pol_ce Department squad car. In ccnnoction with cdh.1/:: ?r:i:*^ V.rjGIZT advised he did not perrait COl^BZ'f to drive the scuad car' into the baser:ont but rather r.aco hir; park it on the "street" , and then walk to the basenent area. .:e' advised CC?:2'2'2 rc.-^ained in the basc-^ent three or four rsinutes and then left again* by the _ I-'ain Street entrance. (7) United Press or Associated Press re-oresentative who had a press card with his photograph thereon. His" na:i:e v;as not C- \\ ^ ^d >^^ 4\ Vaughn Exhibit No. 5335—Continued 685 . 3 -""^^11MB|HM|pi^^^ . . r opai-t.-int ran tov.ord W.tOlJiiJ civi v?£l.s ii:iiv.*sdia.tely grabbod and alr.ost -chrov.-n to the ground by ii imiforr.-:od Dallas Police Dcpart- EDat resoi-vo officci", j.o tU-i rcsorvo officer did not reccsnizc tho Detective ana tliOU;;lit 'ha was posi-iiiy a i^ubjcct trying to escape. The Detecxive idantifica hir.isolf to tho reserve officer and then case to tho ilain Street rarap and reaainod with VAUGIIT to help hia guard the exit, "his Detective's nar.s was EU?.G2:£S. A short tine lat^r, Captain C. E. TALCZr.T car:3 to the llain Si-rec'c exit and said "lie, one leaves, and if anyone does, have therj to leave their naae and address and what they saw." I-Ie advised that at abcai this tir^o, an anihulanco follov;ed by a squad car with red lights blinking, c'a;ne into the ra^p frois Ilain Street and into the baseiicnt of the building .He advised the ar.-,bulanco did not leave the bui2,ding by that ci:it but left the building by the Corcaierca exit. VAUGIiN advised that only cne r.-.an, a "Dallas lloi'iiing Kev/s" reporter naned MILLIGAir, left tie i:aia ^.-.reet exit after the shooting. He advised he talhed to LIILLIG.UJ concerning what he had seen and LIILiLIG:Ui told hira he had seen nothing ais he did not arrive iintil after the shootins v^s over. VAUGHN advised Detective' Bl)l'.GESSEf:ayed' with hia on the rasp for a v/hile and then he, VAUGHIf, v/ent into the street to direct traffic as a great nunber of autoncbiles were beginning to stop, and cause a terrific traffic jaa. He advised that in a short tise hov;ever, five reserve officers relieved hi^ directing traffic and he returned to his post at the raisp entrance. Ee advised he did not know the identities of any reserve officers. Ze said he stayed at the raap entrance until 12:45 or 12:50 PI:, Koveiiber 2'i 1SS3 , At approxiisately 12:45 Pli, a white male can;c u~> to hir: and told his he v/as an CE:ployee of J.4.C2 RUBY and would like to t.ik to so:::sone about what had happened. He said he had one of the reserve officers take over his post and escorted this indivi- dual to the baseaent of the police building, where he called Captain ?2ITZ« Office and talked to Detective BOYD. He told Detective BOYD of this person's presence and BOYD inaediately ci:.-.e to the basement to talk with hia. Ee advised that he and BOYD searched this individual and then BOYD escorted hiij upstairs. He said he did not obtain this person's nace but it could be obtained frora Detective BC^D. VAUGEX' advised he then contacted IIT. ?I3?.C2 in the Patrol Office and was instructed by LT. PIHHC3 to secure his post, which he did and then returned to patrol duty. iL 44-lo39 VAUGIiN iicivis.>d be i^ positive JACK RUBY did not enter tho Street entrance to the raiiip of the Dallas: Police De-jcrt- I.::iin :;:ontbetv;cen 9:30' Ai.: ar;d 12:45 .U, N&vei,:ber 2<1 , 1053. Ke caid he does know JACK nUBY by sight r.s he r/^et hiia on official business in 195S at v.-hich tiivie AUilSY operated the 7c:j-as Club. IIc; snid this contact was 'in the presence of two other Dall-.s 1-ol.iee Detect'ivcs, names not recalled a.rid was concernin;^- an c.ployee ox EU3Y, a Y;hitG waitress, \.'ho was reportedly' intiir.atc with a Negro rausician at the Ve^as Club. He advised he dees net know any other circur.istanees of the ease. VAUGIHI advised that in Dece;.,her, ISSl, he stopped P.UBY for a ninor traffic violation, turned hl:n loose without .c;ivin2 birj a ticket rc_,ri:.-.anded hirj and y;.JCZ:\ advised that ether than those t\o occasions, he has never soon 7:'C2Y at any place and has neve-r heard .or. seen anything v/hich jsight indicate r.UBY associated with any 'Dallas police officer, oi:cep-j on an official basis. Vaughn Exhibit No. 5335 —Continued 687 D-302 (H.v. 3-3-59) FEDERAL &UREAU OF INVESTIGA'i lON 1 Q^,^ Doccnbcr 19, 1963 ROY EUGENE VAUGKI\T, 3231 Logan v;ood Drive, Dallas, Toxas, furnished the followinc; information after being advised that he did not have to furnish a sta-cer.:icnt ; that any statement he did /; furnish could to used against hin In a court of lav; and of his right ->^ to an attorney before furnishing a statement: . .^ Ko stated he distinctly recalls the inforrr.ation furnished <; ^ to Agents c the ?BI on or abouu D^c...b^r- Ij 1SS3> ^-t i^^llac. As ^v concerns tL-;<- events shortly bofor-e ..;-_d :-:"•;_:." z'.-.^ ce:'.:.!" :jr^ of the -- j police vehicle occupied by Li^-ut c-nar/c ?::-..lG-5, Ego iL-.XZ_' and £gt. -y . . PUTNAM^ ho could not be sure of the exact times involved. Kc did ; < recall that shortly after 11:00 a.m. on IJbvember 24, 1963, he -C i-, ,notiCv-d quite a fcv; people cordng out of the passageway from the j Jail office of the bascnicnt of the Police Department. At :hat time ^ -^ he was standing at the entrarxc to tho I'::ain Street ramp about one i _^ yard in from the building and in the middle. His body v.'as faC;ing "f ^ toward the sidewalk but ho was able to occasionally glance behind (> ^ him and v;as able therefore to observe som.e of the activities. :.z about llslS a.m., he recalled observing individuals "^ M forming lines around the bottom of the Llain Street ramp from the ^r J" ^^ passageway to the Jail oi"fice„ Ke could not bo sure v/hether these were police officers or reporters as he docs not recall recognizing anyone in par-c;icular. He then recalled hearing someone hollering, "VJatch the ear," and then observed the police car come into viov; at the bottom of the ramp. As the car approached the top of the ramp, he wallced from where he was standing in the middle, diagonally toward the curb on the east side of the driveway. Ho stated the distance from the exit of the rarap to the curb is from 10 to 12 feet. Ho recalled that ho was standing almost exactly on the curb where the s_dewalk joins the street but d^d not recall stepping into the street. The traffic at that time was steady but not very heavy, and he seemed to recall that the traffic lights at the intersection of Kar'.vood and Main Streets were in operation. Ks could not recall^-whether or not there v;as a police officer di- recting traffic at that intersection. As he vjulked from the ramp to his position on the curb, he made it a point to watch that no one entered the ramp as he stepped av;ay from it. He v;as facing in a westerly direction as the police car drove out and recalled v;aving the police car on as an indication that there was no traffic coming from the west z:^ ^JLx.No.5336 VAL-QKICRoy Deoo3i--cn_ Dallas 4-17-64 *"" on 12/19/63 Dallas, Texas p.|^ ^ Dallas 44-1639 KENNETH P. HUGHES S: by Z,.c: :. Agont S JOHN S„ DALLMNsBL . Ooto dictatod 12 A 9/63 This icuscr.t c.ontolns nalther r«comm»ndatlona nor eonclualona of th« T^2^.. It la the proparty o< Iha FBI and U loanad to 7M:r c^wocy; it ood its coatanta af doI to ba dUtlibatad outatda your oganoy. ." . Vaughn Exhibit No. 5336 DL 44-1639 on Main Street and that the way was thorefore clear for the car to enter Main Street. He stated he did not concern himself with any traffic that may have been moving west on Main Street as he felt It was sufficient to Insure that the car was able to cross the east-bound traffic lano without difficulty. He felt the driver of the vehicle would be able to cope with any other traffic once he crossed the east-bound lane. He did not recall looking towards the east while assisting the vehicle and was certain he did not stop any cars that were driving from the east in a westerly direction on Main Street. He stated from the time he left • his position in the center of the^ ramp, walked to the curb, and returned he made it a point tOj-carGfully observe the ramp opening to insure that no one entered the basement from the ramp. He observed no one entering the basement during that time. He did not know where the vehicle driven by Lieutenant PIERCE vjas going and after observing It make a left turn onto Main Street, did not follow the car visually. He did not know where the car went after it made this turn. He Immediately walked back to the ramp after the car passed In front of him and returned to his position which was about one yard inside the ramp and in the center. He again faced in a northerly direction and there was no possibility as far as he was concerned that anyone could have come down- the ramp while he was standing there and not be seen by him. He also, recalled that when he motioned for the police car to enter the street that vehicles were parked at the parking meters west of the exit on the south side of Main Street. He stated the nearest parking meter is about ten feet from the ramp exit and he was certain a car was parked at that meter. At the most, about three minutes of time elapsed from, the time he returned to the center of the ramp and heard a muffled shot in the basement. Just before he heard that shot he heard someone holler in > the basement, "Here he comes." Within a natter of seconds after that ho heard the muffled shot.. He then immediately looked down into the basement and saw a scuffle. He did not believe that someone could have gotten into the basement when he walked to the curb. He was able to see " the ramp exit when the police car pulled out and If someone had attempted to walk down the ramp at that time he was quite t /?925 Vaughn Exhibit No. 5336—Continued DL 44-1639 3 sure that he would have seen them. The period of time that elapsed from when he left his pest to walk to the curb and return was Just long enough for him to walk there, glance up the street, and wave the car on and walk back. He recalled that during this period of time there were about four or five people standing on the west side of the ramp entrance. The only individual he recalled in that group was the former shoeshine boy at the police department. He recalled that he had a pair of binoculars hanging from his neck. He could not recall if the shoeshine • boy v;as standing there at the time OSWALD was shot, however. On the east side of the ramp the only individual standing there during the time the police car left and OSWALD was shot was N. J. DANIELS. He thought that DANIELS had walked up to the ramp at about 10:15 a.m. and recalled chatting with him off and on up until the time of the shooting. He recalled telephoning DANIELS on November 25* 1963, at his residence. He told DANIELS who he was and asked him if he recalled the police car driving up the ramp shortly prior to the shooting. DANIELS stated he did recall that he also asked DANIELS if he saw anybody go down the ramp possibly when he stepped out to the curb to let the car go by.-. He stated DANIELS told him that he had not. He did not recall asking DANIELS any further questions but was shocked when he later learned that DANIELS had advised the Dallas Police Department that he had seen a man walk down the ramp prior to the shooting. At no time did he observe any individual walk down the ramp other'tiian those that he had previously stated were authorized by him. to enter the building. This included the city doctor, a young man in his 20 's driving a Volkswagen. When he was going up the ramp to take his post there he stopped a Sergeant from the department of Public Safety assigned to the License Bureau and after checking his" credentials allowed him to enter the basement. He allowed officers SPRINGER and WATKINS to enter the basement,' TOMMY CORBET, and the United Press or Associated Press representative and also the newsman connected with the WFAA Radio or TV Station. All of these individuals were allowied to enter the basement after their identities were established. (?/ '533 \ — Continued Vaughn Exhibit No. 5836 690 - DL 44-1639 4 He has not seen JACK RUBY since the occasion during December, 196I, when he stopped RUBY for a minor traffic violation. He stated he doubted he would recognize RUBY'" If he saw him on the street.' He felt that If he did encounter RtJBY and converse with hlra briefly, he would probably then recognize hlra. He has never been to the Carousel Club, did not know of Its existence prior to RUBY'S arrest and did not know that RUBY owned that club. He recalled having been to the Vegas Club on two occasions while on duty, this being during 1959 or I96O. He made no social visits to the Vegas Club. He knows nothing-concerning the background, personal . life or political convictions' of v JACK RUBY.. He had never heard, of LEE- HAKVEY OSWALD- prior ^to the President's assassination and 'knows of '.-no connection between RUBY and -OSWALD., - o*^ ? .^"' -^ '" :.v\'^''-: '. 30 -" "" ^/^^^^ Vaughn Exhibit No. 5336 — Continued 691 ' ! j 1 5 *"*^i--j. O'l {°&^i A L :!|f i i 00 I I I II v! "^ ? N V3 ^ ^ 1- v^ i .o :i ill 1/1"" Waldmn Exhibit 2 li??--sT:vr"1fir - - UfAUOl, wo. UFSCHULTZ FAST FREIGHT I HAVlM. COMM 2* N. Franklin St. - Chicago 6, IIL /~s OSTON. MAH. NiW rCMI, N. T. FRonklin 2-5522 \J I «mSiii, a> I. DELIVERY RECEIPT No. 3- 041342^ SWppw 8 CRESCENT FIREARMS KLEINS 5PTG GDS K HAOISON <*5l«0 Nul/j»>AJ»tJb AND DCSCtlPTION 10 CR OR CS GUNS OR RIFLES 750 527 3953 V V^^. -PL' t^^ CqytionI Carefully inspect your Raestvsd lh« abov* marchandtM in\ood condition, shipment upon its receipt. By \ LABOKATOKT Waldman Exhibit No. 2 693 CRESCENT Fi/^^RMS, INC CRESCENT REARMS. INC 2 VEST 37 STREET 2 WEST 37 STREET NEW YORK 18. N. Y. NEW YORIC 18. N. Y. —- 1 CAKION NO. CARTON NO. At I ^_ i 10 MODtl NO. sum. NUMBERS 10 MODEl NO, CAIIBRE ^ SERIAl NUMBERS -V^ I^A hM- 'IlL idl M-M- ^ci ^A £^ SH ml X oV. o/ ^o^ RC_ U^i -A^ jjT ax. i m^ M?^,. mi S- ;^ -2^^ M stL ElUl NV 3672 NV 3504 CUSTOMERS INVOICE CUSTOMEU WVOtCI i 'T'i^l' .•/./:,.• 7 Wh'' p Walidman Sxhlblt 3 ..^ LAMOKATOIIT Waldman Exhibit No. 3 694 CRESCEf T FIREARMS, INt CRESCENT FIREARMS, INC. 2 WEST 37 STREET 2 WEST 37 STREET NEW YORK 18, N. Y. NEW YORK 16. N. Y. CAPTON NO. - i,d:, I CARION NO. 1> '^ ^ _i - 10 MODEL NO. E 10 MODtl NO. —^ (J ^-- CALIBRE cA'iBKt . u*. y /i. 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Z' (J CAUERE O'—A NV 3770 cusTOMtKS IN voice Waldman Exhibit 3 —=^^:€^ Waldman Exhibit No. 3— Continued -V 1 . Waldman Exhibit k — Wf uP^'^/T" Waldman Exhibit k -Y 4i S20 £'B ^^-^^ t 846 /rs /// 822 /^^/^^/^ ^ - '•:847 ^/^J^ -823 . /^yp^?uy" -^^ '^ 848 /SF^^^ :824 ^^9//^-^2:j. *-849 /f^9yf 825 /5V/-^^<^ L "850 /?A!^^yy^ :826"^;^^/:r^ 828 ;^^'p^iP^ • ^ 853 /^//S^^-^ -829 /?^^^^_£{^ • :854 /^jr^P^-^ 855 x5>^/^^ :85G X^^"^ ' 832 857'/^^^^ ^833 834 859 r /^ '7'^ :835 83G 861 '/^ys^'i^^ :837 (^?//7 ___^,^ 838 ^G- /c^X^ / ^ -863':' X>?y /^^ : 839 ^^ S^^^ :864^;'^^>-^^/:,i^ ^/^ "865? V^>^ "^ :84i /SJ^y^^!^/ 866 //^^^/ 842 /ic? fO'Ci^ ^ :867 ^^^^^^ •:843 :^^^^ "868 /rx^^^>^ '844 s -^i^s^y ; . ,V, WALDMAN Exhibit No. 4— Continued 700 Waldman Exhibit 5 INVOICI •CRESCEIT FIREARMS 1 nn n imn, in tmk it, i. t. • ma Kl«in«» Sptg Goods Inc. 1 SOLO SHIP TO U5U0 W, MftdlBon St TO |_ Chicago 2k, Illinoia _j THMS. Nn 10 DAYS - tfk INTIMST CHAKCID THiRUFTER IM»0«TAMTt TNI-aoOOS CHAtiGiO rOII ABOVI WEM SPECinCAUY tHIPPtD M ACCOHDANCI WITH AND BY REASON 0» TO«l MDE*. aEMITTANCES WNKH DO NOT RflXT COMPtV WITH AU OUH TERMS WIU NOT BE ACCEPTED. CLAIMS MUST >N ucnrr of shipment, unautnorizio RiruRia wiu not bi accepted. "-^FB^^ Waldman Exhibit No. 5 701 Waldman Exhibit No. 6 702 ORDER QLANK niAii r<'."^NT NFCESSARY 3 C.O.D. Ord«r»-S<;nd 10'. or mor« COO Depcs.t r] Ntwr Cr»dit Accourtt— F-<»' SO" .^... ^~• »..-.^ i- »...-. r-, ,. ... •*...».', ».,.«.^ •.j-,'. TOTtl AMOUai iMUOMD 100": MONlY lACK CllARAHTil Of SATISFACTION - -T75t— -^ l» 95 *9 S5 :LC I^A i_L ^ni*:t »«.3 I ntAU 1AUH 0» >iIIB$ Waldman Exhibit 9 I PERSONAL MEMO from the desk of W. J. WALDMAN Klein's Sporting Goods, Inc. and The Gun Digest Co., Publishers 4540 W. Madison St., Chicago 24, ftt. Estebrook 9-6100 PAY TO THE ORDER OF The First Nitienal Sank Of Chicago 50 91144 KLEIN'S SPORTING GOODS, INC. The volume of mail which we receive would make it impossible for us to reply to your letter the same day if we adhered to the conventional procedure of typing a formal answer. Please understand that in replying to your inquiry in this informal way, we value it noiNetheless highly— but we do feel that a prompt response is far more Important to you than formality. Waldman Exhibit No. 9 705 , n^fim Xaliaul B«iik ! Olatf \ '**JI||UL!I' 'wy f •" •f^^'-v^p- , iii Waldman Exhibit No. 10 >^fe*^ Deposited with H^^mi rooM cn*r. j-»-»t» FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTICA nON ft-. December 2. 1963 THAYER WALDO, Nawa Reporter, Port Worth Star Telegram, advised his residence was Apsirtment 524, 200 Burnett Street, Fort Worth. He stated he had been employed by the Star Telegram for approximately one year. He stated that he was sent to Dallas, Texas at approxi- mately 9:40 a.m. on November 22, 1963 to cover the arrival of President JOHN P. KENNEDy at Love Field and at the Dallas Trade Mart. He stated he attended the breakfast given for the Presidential party in Fort Worth, Texas that same morning prior to going to Dallas, and at this break- fast was given a large tag identifying him as a newspaper Importer. He stated he hung this tag on his lapel and used it as Identifioation for the next three days. ' He stated that while at the Dallas Trade Mart on the morning of November 22, I963* he learned President KENNEDY had been shot and proceeded at once to Parkland Hospital, He stated that after remaining at Parkland for «. approximately thirty minutes, he received an assignment from his newspaper to go to the Dallas Police Department headquarters and cover that building in the event that any suspects in the shooting were taken into custody. He s£Lid he drove his personally owned automobile from Farklan4 Hospital to the Police Department and went at once to the third floor where the Homicide Division is located. He said he went up on the elevator to the third floor wearing his press tag and no one questioned him or asked for further identification. He stated he remained on the third floor for several l^ours and sometime that evening, attended a press conference in a large assembly room in the basement of the same bviildlng. He said at this press conference. Chief of Police JESSE CURR^ addressed the members of the press assembled there and LEE H. OSWALD was shown to the reporters for three or four minutes then taken out. WALDO seiid that during this Friday night press conference, there were no security checks by the Police Department or anyone else as far as attendance was conoemed* He stated he noticed several outsiders there, qpeolfloalljr. Thayer Waldo Exhibit 1 " ^ 11/30/63 ,. Fort Worth, Texas P,,^ I PL 44-1639 JOSEPH L. SCOTT and by Sp.ei«| Ag«nt S B. TOM CARTER/rms D,„ j,^,,^ 12/2/63 ThU deeaaaal eantolna aalther racoaiMDdallon* no* eonelasleaa el Ik* TBI. II la Ik* pr*pM«r •( Ik* FBI mmt U loaa*4 I* rtmt •««aeri II 'i* Ma e«>al*ala an mot I* t>« dUlrlbal*4 a«taU* roar a«*«er. Waldo Exhibit No. 1 708 2 ' DL 44-1639 ?' two biilldlng janitors and several teenagers. Th(6' doors "^ .- of the assembly room were not closed and It seemed to him that anyone could have wandered In. WALDO said he did not see JACK RUBY at this press conference but heard later from several people, whom he could not recall specifically at the moment, that RUBY had been at the conference. WALDO said he slept the night of November 22, 1963 at the Statler Hilton Hotel and retiimed to the third .floor at the Dallas Police headquarters on the morning >of November 23, I963. He said he went to the third floor *\>n the elevator still wearing his press tag, and no one questioned him. He said he remained for several hours on the third floor and saw an Individual whom he learned later - was JACK RUBY handing out cards advertising the Club Vegaa* WALDO said these cards entitled members of the press to come to the Club Vegas for free drinks. WALDO said he was given one of these cards by RUBY and does not know what he did with It as he cannot now find It. He said most of the Individuals receiving the cards were so busy ' and preoccupied with news gathering that they threw the cards on the floor. ( WALDO said that sometime during the evening of November 23, 1963« Chief JESSE CURRY made the annoiuice- ment to members of the press that OSWALD would be moved from Dallas Police headquarters to the Dallas Coxinty Jcdl by 10 a.m., November 24, 1963* WALDO said he was In the back of the crowd when 'his annoxmcement was made and at first, understood CURR? 's announcement to be that OSWALD would be moved at 10 a.m. the next day and was surprised, that the Chief would name a specific time, for moving such a oontroverslal-type of prisoner. However, WALDO said he was later Infozmed by several members of the press who were standing oloser to CURR7 that CUBBY 's exact stateaent was OSWALD wonld be moved b£ 10 a.B, the nejct daar« '.'."'-'- :'• c ^ii" rer Waldo Exhibit 1 6Vf / Waldo Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 709 3 DL 44-1639 On hearing that, WALDO said he at once assumed that the Police Intended to transfer OSWALD surreptitiously sometime during the night of November 23* 1963 or the early morning hours of November 24, 1963. After CURRY 's announcement, WALDO went to the Statler Hilton Hotel and stayed the night. At about 7 «.». or 7:30 a.m., November 24, I963* WALDO telephoned the Homicide Division of the Dallas Police Depzirtment and .spoke with a sergeant whose name WALDO does not recall, WALDO Identified himself over the telephone by name and by newspaper and asked the sergeant If OSWALD had been moved. WALDO said the sergeant said, "No, he would be moved In 1^ or 2 hours." WALDO said he was surprised to hear that OSWALD was still held In custody at the Police Department and walked over to Police headquarters at about 10 a.m. that morning. He stated that between 10 a.m. and 11 a.m., he was standing with a group of newspapermen on Commerce Street at the end of the corridor or ramp whloh runs beneath the Dallas Police Department from Commerce Street on the south to Main Street on the north. He said that GEORGE BUTLER, who Is a lieutenant or captain In the Dallas Homicide Division, came to the Commerce Street end of the ramp and called out to the group of reporters, "Come In." WALDO said he and the other reporters entered the ramp at which time a uniformed officer checked their credentials. WALDO said he noticed that In the ramp, three Police cars were parked In a straight line one behind each other facing toward Commerce Street. He said the ramp was so narrow that It was necessary to squeeze between the ramp or corridor aisles In order to get to an area In the corridor where a hallway Intersected the ramp at right angles from the west. WALDO said that this hallway connected the raoip with an elevator from the Jail upstairs and It was WALDO B understanding that OSWALD would be brovight down in ' the elevator and oat to the ramp through the hallway. Thayer Waldo Exhibit 1 — [\- Waldo Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 710 4 DL 44-1639 WALDO stated that he and an American Broadcasting Company (ABC) reporter stood behind the third car In the ramp and back of this car was ju»t to the south of the hallway entrance. WALDO believes the ABC man Is named DUNCAN, but does not know whether It Is his first name or last name. He said this man was a regular employee of WFAA radio station In Dallas. This man held In his hand a long hooded micro- phone which was connected by a cord with a tape recorder. WALDO said that when the Dallas detectives escorted LEE OSWALD out of the hallway leading to the elevator and Into the ramp. It was necessary for them to walk within a few feet of the rear end of the parked Police car where WALDO was standing with the /\BC man. WALDO said as they passed, the ABC man pushed the microphone out in front of OSWALD'S face and asked, "Do you have anything to say?". OSWALD turned his eyes toward the microphone and just then WALDO said a man in a hat made one long lunging step from WALDO'S right to the front of OSWALD, shoved out his hand so that it was pressed almost against OSWALD'S body, and there was a white flash and an explosion. WALDO said he never saw the gun but knew at once Miat had happened because he was standing so close. WALDO said that he did not recognize JACK IRUBY as the assailant at that time and did not get a good look at him at that time because detectives leaped forward to over- power the assailant and there was a lot of confusion while he was dragged from the ramp area. WALDO said that he had seen the television pictures of the shooting later and felt that he recognized RUBY as the nan from the Club Vegas whom he had observed- on the third floor AC t;he DallM Police Station on the night of November 23, 1963. nwyer Waldo Exhibit 1 1 Waldo Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 711 5 DL 44-1639 After Che shooting, WALDO said that no members of the press were allowed to leave until they identified themselves and for the rest of the day on the third floor, stride security was maintained by the Dallas Police Department and reporters and everyone on the third floor was required to show identification every time they entered the floor through the elevator or came up the stairs, WALDO stated he did not recall seeing RUBY \fkiile )( on the third floor on the night of November 23, 1963 talk to anyone except when handing out his cards. WALDO said hex. had no knowledge whatsoever of any prior relationship between^v^ JACK RUBY and LBE H. OSWALD, :::::3i23>. CLRS^ \ ^er Waldo ExbilJit 1 ^ Waldo Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 712 ''?t?i^*^ Walker (Edwin A.) Exhib.it No. 1 ' "^ 1 — General v. alkcr Exhibit i m^mmmMxr. Walker (Edwin A.) Exhibit No. 2 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 47 713 Walker (Edwin A.) Exhibit No. 3 Walker (Edwin A.) Exhibit No. 4 714 rD-so2 (R.T. i^.i») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION n„,, 12/4/63 IRA N. WALKER, JR Remote Audio Operator, , WBAP-TV, advised that his home address is 6913 Hightower. WALKER stated he has been employed at WBAP-TV since 1948. WALKER furnished the following information: WALKER advised that a person now known to him as n ' JACK RUBY or JACK-RUBENSTEIN was first noticed by him, \ WALKER, on the morning of November 24, 1963, at which time "v- V.'ALKER was on the remote mobile unit for WBAP-TV, along ^^ with JOHN SMITH and WARREN RITCHEY. WALKER advised that their mobile unit was set up on the Commerce Street side ^ ^ ^ -K ^ of the Dallas Police Department, facing east, and locr.ted ^ >i about twenty-five feet from the ramp leadiiig to the basement f ^/ of the Dallas Police Department, > "6 fV ^ '' C< ^^' ' WALKER said that oi^ the morning of November 24, ^-> ^ 1963, that the fi;-st time he recalled seeing JACK RUBY was shortly after the, mobile unit was set up, ^fhXch v/ould have y V . ,/^ ^ been tietween 7:30 and 8:00 AM. WALKER said he first saw ij RUBY shortly after the armored truck was backed into the M basement of the Pplice Department. WALKER sai^ he does ^ not recall what tl,me this would have been; however, at that ^ time, RUBY came to thd window of the tgjuck and asked, "Has \^ i_ he come down yet?" WALKER said he answered, "No." ^ ,> WALKER said that a short time later, time not <> 'o recalled, RUBY again came to the window and asked the ( ZS ^ same question, at which time WALKER said he again answered,^=*^ \/ "No." ',''••. ''"' ' ' WALKER daid he did not see RUBY on the sidewalk on Commerce Street at any time and, actually, never saw RUBY other than the two. times when he came to the window, as mentioned above. c WALKER advised he had no further information '^ con- cerning this matter. _Ex.No,5315 WALKER, I.N. Jr. Depositioru^ Fort Worth 4-15-64 c(^ 65 J^. No. 5103 WATSON, J.R. Deposition- J. Curry !i, Dallas 3-26-64 Chief of l^olico Ilos of Lgq Larvoy Oovald .';i;ooti:i3 Intcrviow of J. C. i/atcon J. C» •uti:on ^;^G i;^tcrvi-Vod by 7 i(:n-io;i;;nto C, C» V"a.llceo cJria T. C: :'.;';-..:;'i.rcn i-.t ^I'^Oyn on ;:ov-.-;l;-r 29s 19^'>3« '^'i^o inforvic.- uar. v.-iii^c.:- ii.".ily tho c:'";o as hie ori;;ii'ril rc--;ori Jatod ITovon'oor 2'f, l;}65. -i--j rollo\;i;i3 \;aG .a.^dod by J. C. .cbton; i bco:^ ai^irod if I ];.nov' Jnc"; :';u"^,7« h.-.v;-! I liavc ooan thic poi'con or. ons occcciori .'vj a ciub ovi OoJ-; l^r^.::: :,-: r:,;:ii ,v.ly J o^ '^ yor.rc 2.,f;o« I clo r.ot kiiou t'.iu ;.r.n. X diu r^ct coo h.l..i in Lao baco;. T.t; of tho City T'^^li prior to tlio Gaootinf> I only :;^u iiin aibor tho r::iootinj v.'3ion tlioru voro dotcctivsD all ai-ountl Li.M, I novor ecu tho nai^i Jack iluby croimd tho City liall bciforo, I h*vo no laoi hov Jr.ck iluby •j-'^"*: into tl'.c- Jity I'all b;iG0;^2nt. I vcG intcrviowGcl by Fodora,'! l^urcau o£ Invoctijation ar^ont l^cott ct YsJOpia V.'etoosuay uicl^t. \' \, i.oe;-. octxully nubnittoclj V'\v' "v^ ""' Linut :n,'^-it :-.:^ j-.ivcriila I^uroau '^ \ :,:.:ll:ir; Toiler ^ or-^rtncs^fi: '' : . t: . ;:c'J,'..;:l:rcjf: J.icu\;^:v;:-;^;; of I'lr-l^ry .". Theft jiureau I'allca Folico J;opii;"t;i.ont Ih Watson Exhibit No. 5103 718 FD-Joj (R.». s-j-5») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 11/25/63 1 ,U^ ^-'^ . Detective JAKES C. WATSON, Auto Theft Bureau, Dallas, ' / Texas, Police Department, furnished the following information: " On the morning of November 2U, I963, WATSON vas in a . < group of detectives instructed by Lieutenant SMART and Captain JONES -^ ' to assist in keeping the press men and p?;otographers back while .j ^ -^'V Captain WILL FRITZ and his men brought LEE HARVEY OSWALD down from ^ "'N . the City Jail to the basement ramp to a waiting armored car. The Dallas Sheriff's Office was waiting with the armored car to take OSWALD to the Sheriff's Office for confinement. It is WATSON 's ^V recollection that he received this assignment from Lieutenant SMART sometime early on the morning of November 2k, I963. After arriving at the basement, WATSON was stationed at the northwest corner of the driveway opening and east of the jail office door. As Captain FRITZ came out of the jail door, he was followed by OSWALD and two detectives holding OSV/ALD's arms and V^ other detectives following behind. When they reached the corner where - j^ they would turn right to go up the ramp about seventy-five feet from J' the armored car, WATSON was looking to the right and back toward the -J \ jail office door and hallway. At that time, he heard a louid noise n \/C like a gun or firecracker. He never saw anyone at the time the shot 'S/ •was fired, as he was looking to the right. He looked back when he heard the sound and six or eight detectives had grabbed a man and were wrestling him to the floor. WATSON did not recognize the man at the time. They took OSWALD and this man into the jail office and WATSON stayed in the basement area to assist in keeping everyone there from leaving and to keep down ajiy Interference from the watching press men and photographers. He remained in the basement the next two or three hours on orders of Captain JONES and Lieutenant SMART and checked everyone comlng-or going. WATSON did not see suspect JACK RUBY or the gun at any time before the shot was fired. He had seen JACK RUBY on several occasions three or four years ago at RUBY's club. He believes he wo\ild have recognized RUBY if he saw him in his club, but doubted that he would have recognized him had he observed him in the crowd in the basement of the City Hall. WATSON advised he had no knowledge of the plans for transporting OSWALD from the City Jail to the Coxinty Sheriff's Office, and had received no prior Information concerning the plans before re- ceivlng his instructions from ^^e^^^an-^^ .i^MACT pn the iriorni^ ^ """^ ^* ' _E)c.No.5104 WATSON, J. C. Deposition Dallas 3-26-6/; PAUL L. SCOTT/eah by Special Agenr _ __ Do„ dictated 11/25/63 |,'^PQ-op«rty of lh« FBI and U loonvd to :ocT Watson Exhibit No. 5104 719 Watson Exhibit No. 5105 720 CABLE ADDRESS DAIWORK NEW YORK . ORegon 9-945C \ji 'u i/^\^ 23 WEST 26 ST. NEW YORK . II. N. Y. Dec 19, 1962 l>' Lee H Oswald P 5ox 2915 Dalla.3 Texas Dear Mr Oswald; '^.^ Mr JttClcson is on leavo for a few weeks, so permit ae to thank you for the blow up a. Your kind offer is most welcomed and from time to tiuie we shall call on you. These poster like blow upa are most useful at newsstands and other " public places to call the attention of newspaper readers that the "Workar is available. Best wishes for a peaceful New Year, Sincerely yours, Weinstock Exhibit No. 1 Louis Vt'einstock, General ,{.:, >-: t<. ^j.L^ ~ Weinstock Exhibit No. 1 721 WELCOME MR. KENNEDY TO DALLAS. . A CITY ,, . , A CiTY .K.. . A CITY ..,. , A CITY n.- AAR. KENNEDY, despite con+enfions on the part of your administration, the State Department, the Mayor of Dallas, the Dallas City Council, and members of your party, we free-thinlcing and America-fhlnking citizens of Dallas still have, through a Constitution largely Ignored by you, the right to address our grievartces, to question you, to dii- agree with you. and to criticise you. In asserting this constitutional right, we wish to ask you publicly the following questions —indeed, questions of paramount importance and interest to all free peoples everywhere —which we trust you will answer ... in public, without sophistry. These questions are: ;rning either anti-American or Communistic, or both, despite increased U. S. foreign aid. Sta , and your own Ivy-Tower pronouncements? llfl|Y do you say we have built a "wall of freedom" around Cuba i \ there is no freedom in Cuba today? Because "*** * of your policy, thousands of Cubans have been imprisoned. < tarving and being persecuted — with thousands already murdered and thousands more awaiting execution and, in i Hon, the entire population of almost 7.000,000 Cubans are living In slavery. u approved the sale of wheat . )rn to our enemies when you know the Communist WHY' "travel on their stomachs" just as 0? Communist soldiers are dally wounding and or killing rs in Sou+n Viet Nam. — Trojan Horse — just a short time after our sworn "" * ^'*^ y°" ^°**' 5^'"*® ^^^ entertain Tito Moscow's U/HY and leader of Communism? enemy, Khrushchev, embraced the Yugoslav dictator as a great hero ^^^^ ^"^^ urged greater aid, comfort, recognition, and understanding for Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary, and VUHY "** ^ other Communist countries, while turning your back on the pleas of Hungarian, East German. Cuban and other anti-Communist freedom fighters? UfUV did Cambodia kick the U.S. out of its country after we poured nearly 400 Million Dollars of aid into its ultra- Hill leftist government? jr policies I banned the showing at U.S. military bases of the film "Operation Abolition"— the movie by the \ WHYc' ee on Un-American Activities exposing Communism In America? WHY "" ^^^® ordered or permitted your brother Bobby, the Attorney General, to go soft on Communists, fellow- y*^" travelers, and ultra-leftists In America, while permitting him to persecute loyal Americans who criticize you, your administration, and your leadership? lil||Y are you In favor of the U.S. continuing to give economic aid to Argentina. In spite of that fact that Argentina has ''"^ just seized almost 400 Million Dollars of American private property? WUY "" ^*^ *^® Foreign ' of the United States degenerated staunch Antl-Communlst Ing Policy of the the point that the bloodily exterminated. Allies U.S. to C.I.A. Is arranging coups and hav- WHY, scrapped the Monroe Doctrine in favor of the "Spirit of Moscow"? THE AMERICAN FACT-FINDING COMMITTEE "An unaHiliafad and non- porfison group ofcWtens wh o wis h truth" BERNARD WEISSMAN, Chairmin — eiGsman E:chibit Ko. 1 1792 — Dallas 21. Texas WEISSMAN Exhibit No. 1 722 IKS ,x. IKS' 'M.V fii) > "r.'^> ^' Kw 1'!!^»:rH?.^f;«^ ''H.I, ,.-'vl) -'i ,^« i 'Kl Seymour Weitzman Exhibit D Weitzman Exhibit D 723 Weitzman Exhibit E Seymour Weitzman Exhibit F Weitzman Exhibit F 724 Capt. W. R. Weetbrook Exhibit Westbrook Exhibit 37. PARKING AREA BEHIND TEXACO STATION. ^ Westbrook Exhibit B 725 Capt. W. R. WestbrooX Exhibit c rr-- ^-^ O ^; PF43i 38. PLACE WHERE JACKET FOUND BEHIND OLDSMOBILE, LICENSE NL 95. '.\..,cr^~:^-: Westbrook Exhibit C Capt. W. R. Westbrook Exhibit D 39. VIEW OF ALLEY BEHIND TEXACO STATION PARKINQJ^OT^. ^ Westbrook Exhibit D 726 -William W. Whaley Exhibit A AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT THE STATE OF TEXAS COUNTY OF DALLAS BEFORE ME^ Patsy Colllixa. a Nofory Public in and for «aid County, Stat* of Texas, on thi» doy p»r«onolly appeared. j:ill5,?nJ-'orn^''- Strnnt, T.flirisvinpi Bus phono RI -2-9191 Who, offer being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says: Yesterday ll-?2^^ -?^-63 I was sitting at Lnriar and Jackson at the Creyhound Pus Station 'aii^2i'>Q pm waiting for a fare. TMs boy x-jalkcd up to the cab, he was ualldLng; f'outh v^oul on Lamar from Commerce, ha arked if he could p:et a cab, I told him, yes, and I opened the back door. Fe shut the back door and said he vrantec' to rdt in the front. The hey nr-id he -w^ntod to Vo to the ^00 Plock of Worth Fcckloy. After wo had potten into the cab and I had turned my meter on, a lady came up to the cnh crd ark if she could get this cab. As i recall I said there will bo one behind mo very soon, I am not aire whether the man passenger repeated this to her or not, but I think ho may have, I then drove away. I aek him what fill of the Jlrcns were about and he didn't say anything so I didn't say any- moreto him. I turned rlpht on Jackron and traveled to Aurtin Street vhera T turned left and traveled Austin to V'ocd street vjhere I turned right en Ivood rtreot. I traveled Uood Street to Houston Stre t turned left went over the viaduct to Zanjrs Blvd. and traveled Zanr-s to Peckley and turned lef t and traveled on Feckley until I readied the ?00 Block of North Bcckley. l.Ticn I got in the ?00 Block of North Eeclcloy he .';aid this xsxll do and I stoppad The faro v;as 95 cents and ho gave me a dollar and told mo to keep the change. The toy cot out of the^jai^ and xjalltcd in front of the cab at an angle south on Pecldey Street. TI1I0 boy was snail, five feet fei^t inches, slender had on .a dark shirt vrith white spots of somothins on it. He had a braclet on bis left vnrist. He looked like he was 2^ or 26 years old. At approximately 2:15 pn thin afternoon I viewed a line up of U men in this City Hall, The number 3 man who I now know as Lee Harvey Oswald was the man who I carried from the Greyhound Bus Station to the $00 block of North Beckley.EDOaXXXXXr SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN TO BEFORE ME Thi s 23 pay of November ). 196? Whaley Exhibit A 727 White Exhibit A 728 - ^ , A(A iAA DL 44-1639 vv "NoveiBber 27, 1963 "Mr. J. B. Curry Chief of Police "Subject: Murder of Lee H. Oswald "Sir: "On Sunday, November 24, 1963, my tour of duty was from ,6:30 la.D, '^ to 2:30 p.m. My assignment was the Jail Office and the Jai^. I . -'. and Jail had no instructions to provide security outside the Jail Office. "I received a call, and I do not remember who called me, which told me they were bringing Oswald down from the third floor. I had bung up the phone when I noticed the elevator was enroute ZO V to the basement, and as the elevator opened at approximately 11: a.m.. Captain Fritz and four detectives brought Lee E. Oswald from the Jail elevator taking him into the basement to transfer him to the County. ^ . "Captain Fritz asked if everything was in readiness, and I stepped outside the Jail Office into the hallway leading to the v. .^ " basement where I Stopped. Captain Fritz came out of the Jail . Office, followed by the detectives and Oswald. . "They had passed where I was standing approximately six or seven -, feet when I saw a man lunge toward Oswald and heard a shot. I •-< saw several officers grab the man with the pistol and wrestle ^ him to the floor. Immediately, they picked him up and brought him into the Jail Office and disarmed him. They then brought ^ Oswald into the Jail Office and laid him on the floor. I called for a doctor and an ambulance. Code 3. "As they were taking the man who did the shooting from the floor, I recognized him as Jack Buby, who is a night club operator and well known in police circles. Ruby was placed on the Jail elevator and taken upstairs. "The Jail intern came into the Jail Office and tried to give Oswald some attention, but the ambulance arrived, he was placed in it and taken to Parkland Hospital. "I have known Ruby for several years. I have been in his business. The Silver Spur, 1717 S. Ervay, and The Vagas Club, 3508 Oak Lawn, both on and off duty. My visits to his piices of business while on duty were for police business. My visits to his places of business while off duty were for personal recreation for my wife, myself and friends. .. . . .., . .,, ^ , ,..,.,,.,- ... , -— /^j;x.No.5074 WIGGINS, W. Depocixion^" (cgg?| , Dallas 3-24-04 ^ Wiggins Exhibit No. 5074 DL ^-.-iuSS ccc-a L:.:ji "I h.v/c not been in his ulacea of busintiSw, nor Isave 'L in -Jhe l:i£t three or iour years, I did not se-o hira in the ba-c- r^nt prior to tho shooting of Oswald. "Eeapect fully su'^iui-tod, /£;/"V,'. T;ir:sir.:: w. l/icsi^3 Licutcnar.t of_Pollc2 Wiggins Exhibit No. 5074 —Continued 4-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 48 '29 FD-302 (Rev. 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU Or IMVEST'.OATIO;'^ ^D Lieutenant \7003r.0T7 T7IC-C-IN3 51'.) West Coming, , Dallas, \7as inforued of /.gents idectlty; that be dici net have to talk to Agents; that any statenient he rx:de coxild possibly be used against hia in a court of lav/; and tliat h( had the right of legal counsel. Lieutenant WIGGINS is £ platoon conniander of the Dallas Police Departaeat and as such, is in charge or the City Jail. He related the following: On November 24, 1963, he was on duty in the City Jdl \ r Office in the baseaent of the City Hall froa 6:50 A. II. to J 2:50 P.U. He had no particular assignment outside his legal ^^i duties to perfora in the transfer of LES EA.RVEY OSUALD froa the City Jail to the County Jail. >}t The usual procedure in transferring a prisoner \ is for a Dallas County Deputy Sheriff or a Constable to C . ^resent a warrant for a particular prisoner. These officers .^ ^ then go up to the fifth floor and obtain custody of the ^, prisoner and talce then down the elevator and put then in a "V paddy wagon for transfer. Usually these officers transfer several prisoners at one tine. On Novecaber 2h, 1965, because of the nature of the crice OSWALD had been charged with he was not transferred in ; the usual manner, When "he, WIGGINS, cane on duty at 6:50 L.,11. ,' he was inforaed by the police officer on duty at that tice that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had telephoned and said that the Federal Bureaui of Investigation had received a telephone call tp the effect that soaeone was going to try atrl kill OSWALD when he was transferred to the County Jail. Previously he, WIGGilHS , had stationed two officers outside OSWALD ''s cell door at all times except when OSWALD was being interrogated. J,x.No.5075 WIGGINS/.'/. Deposit- Dallas 3-24-64 on l-;^-72/65 Dallas, Teisas pi|„ # PL -t:^:-l639 TOM E. C2AP0TON £i by Spocic! AgontS LTJ^V'.] H. SMTF/jI^ . Data dictatod 12/2/63 This docuccnt cor.tolns noither rocommendatlona nor conclusions of the FBI. It Is th« proporty of ths FBI and Is loaned to your agency; It and its cootsnts are not to b« dtstrlbutod outslda your agency. Wiggins Exhibit No. 5075 730 coll ov: •1659 on tlid Cov:::.o-~oo rc:;;^) and Led ZGOii t\7o lines o'2 o'llLcorz s-<,znClng alniCiii slioulvlcr to slioiildor stretchinf/; i'roa tl'.c entrance to the jail oiZi'ice to the ar;.:oi-ecl true!:, a cliGtancc ci' so:r.G ^iQ fc-3-;„ V,'IGC;-":rs r.~3 r-ric.nding *>3y the desic in the 3ail o:ificc .. -. .;/-. ,^d ^roLj the jail elevator a: v;l:cn C-ptni.:. ---:.. ;,... -'^ ... .^j-^hin:^ xvas ready, ho, "^.'Z^OZl St. ^^•-- •:_.:_„-- -o^r and the sroup c::: -joIIcc czT:: ..:_-: -^:--.:.-- ::. \:qtq out -oast hir;. .-.: , and he > -.-^^ -^^ ^..-- _._„ ^-/^ral of the officers .;:,:,. .. grahocd '^..-^ - - .:^-- -^ :._ j-^.. ^ra'^hcd the hand of the i::^ rhich conta'_ ..^"._ :...._.-- '..Qy brousht hln incido the jail office _ ..i... . - "_t T:as \7hen this can tras ho- siihdued that u<^ ;,,. ;___ _^ hi.:i as J.LCIl 2D3Y xrhi^hc hner? personally. 1711 1;!^^ ^ _lc., for a doctor and an anihulanee. CS'iTlLD vras also bro;-^l-t i^-o the jail office and the inter: 3TZ2::-OZ7-^. can:o in and tried to give 0$i:.lLD firct aid^hut t: _.:.euv;enanx \;_w>....-.o ...,.- no a;.c.:LuU.cna_ ;:orccnne_ assigned to bin at this tiL-ie during the transfer of C£'~._li:- and received no assignnents or instr'^citions as to anything h: should do during the transfer. Lieutenant U-:.&G-_i;3 did nCo Icnov; vrho ras in charge of procedures and arrangenen-^s hut did say that Chief •S'i'SinSISCJ CI ief B.*.T' 0-213-, Captain JdlT CuTitain ^MLBSILI?, Lieutenant PI3ECE anc. Ser^-ant li„_: and Sergeant PUl'l^il!! vrere outside the ja-il office. jail elevator, unifora ::,,-•_-. ^ .....fleers had searched the area v.'hich he'_.--. •hasenient . T/as a result of the ti-> that - sc-eene ras going to try ...... :____ GSUi^.LD. „•_,"-...- that he x-'cul^d guess "jnere Lieutenan'^ ..:_-_L-^ \7ere sone.. 75 to ICO poliee efficers present in the hasenen- area uhen OS'JllLD T;as shot and that he vonid esticate there ' \-:ere sor:e 75 to 100 newspaper reporters, television announcer; radio anneuneers and cuEierrien in -he hasen>.nt. Wiggins Exhibit No. 5075 —Continued 732 DL ^^-165; Ecasuros in ci^rcct ct tho tiiijc of thvi trr.nc:^cr. Zo Ino-v c:^ no uncuthorisiu pori;oiic: ooir.:i proscr.-;;, ho did not sec li'ZIi'Z cc-z:c into tho 'bc.Gcuront ar-d did not sco Iio3Y ic.llring to cinyor.0 -vricr to the shootiii^j or subsequent to the ;sh )C/ti22. Ec had Z-C-z seen IluIiY prev:'.:.ucly for the laiut three or fo^ar yczxs, Lioutonc^rit V7IIGG:1I^:S did not IznoT;' the identitv of the driver of the crcored truch. Shortly after the si cotiLng, co:::c fivJ"- or ten r:iautc3, I-Ir. SCr:Ii2LIiS the Scorot Ser>''icc ^^sent in charge of the Dalles Office of Secret Scrvitjc, cane into the ;;ail office to ; :he -ohcne 30 he ^recv.::ned COIfi^llS hcd hecn yecrs havinv; contacted hin on nu:i-: -police natters, hQ,VlGG-r.:s •.7ith h, , assigned to the Burglary S ::::..:. -/.rl City Jail in 195S. xle had '..!.;.' v_: .'.'e::a^ Cl-ao, hofi operat-.J. !:' hi. .', these visits v/ere for ^:.-^r-. in a„y o^._,..v;_ -^ , in his spar^ „:- .. .:: he dees not "hne-^ cf__any polic^ .. . capleyed "by ::hJY. ^e e:zplainc.- •_....: _ police regulation was put iu,.^ ^11. iaie-;/ of no ac:.:.e; 12 mi-Virf 0^.1.111/. Wiggins Exhibit No. 5075 —Continued 733 J -——. I J— Wiggins Exhibit No. 5076 734 WILCOX EXHIBIT 3002 CO-2-3U,030 Dallas Times Herald Dallas, Texas November 30, 1963 OJ^ 0<5-t'^<*>', T-^ ^ T"" FUNDS WIRED TO OSWALD Western Union Recalls Sendmg Message Prior to Assassination Lee Harvey Oswald received ranging up to 510 or possibly) smafl;amounts of money via West- $20 at a, time—was not known. emTjTnion for sevetal months pri- Neitiicr was the recipient of Os*' or {6; Ihe assassination of Presi- wald's message. Presumably, the dent Kennedy, The Times Herald FBI is investigating all messages >leamedi Saturday. involving both Oswald and his '1 He a telegram himself— slayer, Jack Ruby, prior to thej seht ^printed in a c u r 1 o u s, crowded tragic weekend. I ^script—only a few days before the MESSAGES RECALLED tragic afternoon. Oswald's messages at Western, Oswald was remembered at Union were reccdled after he was Western Union because he invari- shown on television. ably argued with those persons This latest aspect of the case who assisted him. was revealed to The Times Her-; .the sendee of th* 'sums of ihoney aid at a time when hordes of fed-^ hMlffi *.». lWi .|i i i l lili loyees were regularly reminded of the rules In this connection* Mr* Gettls was told that copies of any messages or money orders could be obtained only through set court procedures* When all of this broke Mr* English, called our class 9-C Agent, Mr* Shores, at Irving, Texas and reminded him of Rule 2k of the Tariff Book, and Mr. Shores said he and his en^loyees strictly observed that rule* However, Mr* Shores did say that any money orders to Mrs. Oswald were turned over to the Irving Police that he understood Secret Service men wanted to see them* Mr* Shores was Informed that unless money orders were addressed In care of the police, he should arrange to deliver them as addressed* Mr* Shores was very cooperative and we do not believe there were any un- guarded statements made by him to outsiders* We are looking Into the xaatter of delivering Mrs* Oswald's money orders In care of the Irving police and a further report will be made to you If any Is^jortant Information is developed In this regard. We are continuing our Investigation of this whole affair and a further report will be made to you, as soon as Early Night Manager C, A. Hamblen and other e^^>loyees are questioned* Wilcox Exhibit 3004 Wilcox Exhibit No. 30O4—Continued 743 With reX«renc« to the «aay stories tbat hara be«n p»ibii8ii«d io r«gAr<3i t« the passing of our late President, John F K«aa»djr« I h&re within the past ten days talked to aut^ repartort fr«i Japan to Swltssrlaad iacludln^ many tr^m Ths U.^t«d State* ajatd reeail of only one ti«e giriag a reporter .anytkins about the happening's in Dallae« I was in conTersation with a report«»r at the counter and remarked t« hi» tbat I was watching mj TV enjoying the Bmie Ford show when word was flashed that the President had been shot and that I thought t« ayself what a eoincedence it was that I recognised the fleturo of the acensed gtuunan tfhen 1 recognissd it «a«ii he was slain in jailc £• asked «e now I could reaeabor so rirtilj the photo and ay answer to hla that the picturo wss or vss the s®it iaago or a party tkut had eausod ao a hard tias OB Mfforsl iastsa«o*s la his trsBsaetios*s of busineM witk la the past sororal aoatks* Clfa>« Bob feadley was the reporter) Am X rossll ssToral wook*s ago Mto Aubrey Lewis had trouble payti^ this party a Money Order, he expeeted to got saao without proper Xl, he was inferaod to get soae IB and eoao back aad get paid, aad as Mr* Lewis rooall he retumod about one hour later with lavr 19 card and a librarr card and wa® paid a saall aaouat with this ID aad after payaoat aade and partV left the office 1^ Levis reaarked to ao Z would like to piaeh the head's a people af his tharaetor* 1li« last tiae I re0all this party being ia the offlot was sovwral days back whoa NrSe NoClure aadc atteapt to wait on the eastesior aad ho was so deaanding and exacting and we wero ery busT I was sailed to the eouater to assist her, he was askll for phvaisal dsllTory and a report of deli Terr oa telegraa being seat. 1 explslaod to hia that the adse had telegraph eqalptaeat la offlee and all telegrams vors seat erer private lines but X would ask for a report of dell^erv iHiich would be a collect telegraa back to hia and h« declined this serrice, the telegram waa rated and aoaey was accepted sad the sender used the pay faa< la the lobby aad left a>ur offieo , Ikls «ss a Bightletter to Vaahlmgtoa fe WILCOX EXHIBIT 3005 WiLCX)x Exhibit No. 3005 744 Dallas, Texas, Dec. k, 1963 Mr, Wilcox: This statement refers to a portion of Mr. Hamblen's written statement dated Dec. 2 in which Mr, Hamblen stated that he recalls I had trouble paying a money order to a man named Oswald several weeks ago because the payee did not have proper identification; that Oswald was informed to get some identification and return and he would be paid; that he did return about an hour later with a Navy Identification card and a library card and was paid a small sum of money, I do recall relieving Mr, Archie Rowell on Tuesday, Oct, 29, on the early night money order position, while Mr, Rowell was relieving Mrs, Bedwell durj^ng the last week of her vacation. As I recall, I did have difficulty paying a small money order to a man, who struck me as being a "feminine type" person, however, I cannot remember his name. The reason I happen to recall the incident out of the great number of money orders paid by me at the front counter is because he gave me so much trouble regarding such a small money order. While I do not remember the name of the payee, I do recall it was delivered to some one at the Y.M.C.A, on North Ervay Street, I also recall the payee of the money order in question was accompanied by another man of Spanish descent. WILCOX EXHIBIT 3006 WiLCJOx Exhibit No. 30O6 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 49 ^45 yR w LC ox i HAVE PERSONALLY EXAMINED THE SIX CASH TELEGRAMS I FOUR TO WASHINGTON DC ONE TO BOSTON MASS AND ONE TO BRAZIL AMD NONE FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PENCIL TYPED COPY THAT WAS ACCEPTED AT OUR COUNTER APPROXIMATELY TEN DAYS PRIOR Tt THE DEATH 9F OUR PRESIDENT A3 RECALL THIS TELEGRAM WAS GIVEN TO US SOMETIME I BETWEEN TEN AND ELEVEN PM« THE TELEGRAM AS RECALL WAS SENT I Ti THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY AND THE SENDER WAS REQUESTING MESSENGER DELIVERY AND A REPORT OF DELIVERY, DUE T0 THE SENDER BEING SO INSISTENT AND EXACTING RE THE TELEGRAM MRS MCCLURE ASKED MY ASSISTANCE* I EXPLAINED Ti THE SENDER THAT PHYSICAL DELIVERY WOULD NOT 1 BE MADE AS THE ADSE HAD TELEGRAPH EQUIPTMENl IN THEIR OFFICE AND ALSO ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD LIKE A REPORT I OF DELIVERY ON THE TELEGRAM AND AFTER EXPLAINING THAT IT WOUUD BE A COLLECT TELEGRAM FROM WASHDC TO HIM HE DECLINED TO ACCEPT THIS SERVICE* THIS WAS A CASH TELEGRAM ACCOUNTED FOR BY MRS MCCLURE AS A NIGHTLETTER. THE TELEGRAM IN QUESTION WAS IN A ODD PRINTED TYPE WHICH IMAGINE CAUSED ME TO REMEMBER SO WELL.. I l^^JiiZ^^ DALLAS TEXAS DEC 5 1963* 1> cc 7 't^, ^'^ Q ./ i«^ WILCOX EXHIBIT 300? Wilcox Exhibit No. 3007 746 DECSMBEti 4, 1963 , MR IVILCOX, nlEFmENCE OUR COIfVEltSA^ldTrYEoTERDAY IN COMNECTION WITH THE FILING OF MESSAGES BY LES HARVEY OSl'MLD, I DO NOT RECALL THE INCIDENT IVHICH VR HAl^LM HAS MADE REFERENCE TO IN HIS STATEMENT TO YOU. HE POINT. ED OUT TnAT HE IS QUITE SURE THAT l^R OSWALD FILED A >!E33AaE TO THE SECRET.^Y OF NAVY, ASKING FOR A REPORT PERSONAL DELIV JCr. MR H.^'SLEN FURTHER STATED THAT THE SETTER OF THE MESSAGE WAS IN DIRE NEED OF A HAIRCUT AND ALSO TE^T HE USKD THE PAY TELEPHONE IN THE LOSSY AFTER HAVING COMF'LETED THIS TRANSACTION. m HAIIBLEN SAYS THAT I .rAITED ON THIS ^bSTL AND CALLED HIM TO THE COUNTKR TO ASSIST fffi /.fHElT I FOUND THAT I COULD NOT CONDONE THE SENDER «S AT.ROGANT A.'TITUDE. I DO NOT H,Ef^IE3^IBER A^IYTHiNG ABOUT THIS AND I FEEL SU:^ THAT HAD I HAD THIS MUCH ITIOUILE ^WITH SOI^IEONE I COULD SURELY :l KELShU SOMETHING A10I:T IT. I FEEL THAT MR HAISLEN IS CONFUSED ABOUT THIS AND P0SSI3LY HAS OS-v/ALD MIXED UP 1-aTH SO>ffiONE I'JHO LOOKS VERY MICH AS HE. I AM SOilRY I CM I3S OF NO HELP TO YOU BUT I DO NOT RECALL EVER HAVING SEEN LEE HMVEY OSWALD IN THIS OFFICE. D. J. MCCLURB - yV^>) SENDING, BL^^^3 \^v;,/^ To (ji^ ^^ /I m,. ^d,,,, I ^:2l-/f -ru . fr- ty-^- ^^^' S. ^C ,/?^ iV M^'s: A/:o^v/^/A/e /^n f^ J^-^O t-f- PCf jV,<»'7"CvJ/^ HJ j. VC ^Tj,.pn-r '^^ ^ej-r^TZ u ^. C1^ "-> <^i LEGAL - Subpoenas I Production of Mass ages f/?\\^ XHillas^ Deeeniber 6* 1963 fERSOHAL k COHFIDEHTIAL Mr, ft«Bing8ens (3) Please refer to ny two previous letters Pecenber 2 and December 3# regarding the recent news- paper article In the Tl»es Herald, with reference to the Oswald ease. Following is a brief resume regarding the search of our files for any telegrams sent by or aoney orders reoelTed by Lee Harvey Oswald. A news article appeared in the Dallas Tines Herald Hovenfljer 30, 1963# stating that Ojyald received small amounts of money ranging up to flO.OO or posiibly taO.OO at a time via Western Union for several months prior to the assassination of Presi- dent Kennedy) that Oswald sent a telegram himself, printed in a curious, crowded script only a few days before the assassination) and that Oswald was remem- bered att Western Union because he Invariablv argued with those oa9>loyee8 who assisted him. Copies of these newspaper articles are attached. After the article appeared In the Times Herald loventoer 30, we were beseiged by Inquiries from the press, Dallas Police, FBI, and U. S. S««j;;t which ftervioe for more definite information than that appeared in the Tines Herald. Wilcox Exhibit No. 3015 752 - 2 - We questioned and obtained written state- menta from all employees In our office who may have had occasion to be queried about messages or money orders purported to have been sent or received by Oswald. After reviewing the statements made by our ei^loyees^ we have concluded that the Information appearing In the Dallas Times Herald was the result of the conversation between Early Klght Manager C. A. Hamblen and Bob Penley, a reporter for the Dallas Times Herald The Information contained In the Times Herald article was Identical to that which Mr* Ham* blen gave me verbally on Tuesday, November 26, when he was telling me of his experiences with Oswald* This same Information appeared In the Kansas City newspapers, Kansas City, where I was visiting over the Thanksgiving holidays, and I Immediately reeog* nlzed the Information as being the same as tl;^at which Mr* Hamblen had told ms November 26. Following Mr* Hamblen's statement to me on November 26, I asked that he describe this message fully to Mr* Plrtle, Bookkeeping Manager, and then ask Mr* Plrtle to send the message to me under personal cover* When Mr* Plrtle read the article In the Dallas Times Herald, November 30, he Immediately recalled that the Infor- mation was the same as that given to him verbally by Mr* Hamblen* We have made a thorough search of our cash sent paid and sent collect message files for the period September 1 through November 22, 1963, for messages signed by Lee Harvey Oswald or his known aliases, Alek James Hldell and 0, H. Lee, but no mes- sages were found* We have carefully checked through all money orders paid through Dallas branch offices and messenger stations for the entire months of Sep ten-* ber, October, and November, 1963, and were unable to locate any money orders payable to Alek James Wilcox Exhibit No. 3015— Continued t-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 50 753 Hidell, 0* H* Lee, or Lee Harvey Oewald, Ve have oonpleted a search of will call Main Office files for Sept ember f October and November, 1963, but did not find any money orders payable to Alek James Hidell, 0« H* Lee, or Lee Harvey Oswald* Hvm Hamblen^ s written statement refers to a money order made payable to Oswald several weeks ago on which Mr* A* L« Lewis, Relief Clerk, had difficulty in paying* Hr* Lewis has stated he does not recall the payee's name and that the trans- action in question was a money order addressed to someone at the YHCA, 60^ North Ervay Street, and that the date of the occurrence was Tuesday, Ooto* ber 29# 1963* We have searched the paid money or- ders and extracted all money orders payable to emy- one at the YTICA during October and November in an effort to locate the money order which both Messrs* Hamblen and Lewis say Mr* Lewis had difficulty la paying* Hr* Lewis does not recognize any of the several money orders that were extracted as covering the particular case he and Mr* Hamblen alluded to* Since we find no trace of any message sent by or money orders received by Oswald under his right name or his aliases, it appears to m» that >fe»* Hamblen's statement is purely a figment of imagination and that no such records exist* I!r* Hamblen stated to me yesterday, December 5# that the message filed by the party he is confident was Oswald, was a paid night letter filed about ten days prior to November 22, addressed to the Secretary of the Navy, Washington, D,C. I had all the cash messages destined Washington, D.C» from the latter part of October through November 22, extracted from our files. There were four such mes- sages* In addition, because of the peculiar type of printing, one other messatge destined Boston and one to Brazil was also included for Mr* Hamblin to re- view, but he did not find the massage in question* Wilcox Exhibit No. 3015— Continued 754 -1^- Ho statod that the moesage he saw was a night letter accounted for as a cash message by Mrs. McClure and that he assisted in the acceptance of the rnesaage be* cause the sender was insisting on a report of physi* cal delivery of the message. After he explained the method of delivery and the price of the report of delivery, Mr. Hamblen stated the sender decided not to request the report of delivery. Jlr. iiaiiblenU statement is attached* We have searched the message files about tlireo timesfor this message without any success and have also matched out all cash messages with the cash sheets turned in by Mrs. McClure to see if we can ac- count for all the cash rdassages she accepted during the period November 1 to November 21 inclusive. All her cash messages v;ere accounted for, and nothing was found that even resembles the message Ilr. Hamblen describes* In my opinion this positively proves his entire story to be fictitious. With reference to the newspaper article by Henry Machirella, titled "Dallas Walks With Guilt**p November 26, appearing in a New York newspaper, I have thoroughly questioned all eii^loyees who wait on the counter and who may have had occasion to make such a statoraent to the newspaper reporter and so far have been unable to find any employee who may have made such a remark as that quoted in the news article. I am miaking this an occasion to reissue the instructions pertaining to secrecy of corominica* tlons in an effort to again inpress all ei^ployeea with the urgency of not divulging information re- garding communication matters to unauthorized persons. Statements made by all employees obtainsd during our investigation are also attached for your information. Att. Wilcox Exhibit No. 3015 —Continued 755 LBOAL - Subpoenas I production of nwasagM ' ' ^ -T^ '/>!/! .It-^ Dallaa, Daoambar 9* 52-5 PERaOHAL ft COHPIDSiiTIAL Mr* Samingaant (3) Tha original aimay ordar application eovaring a |25«00 jatsan ordar talsgraphad to Karan Bannat, will call Ft. Vor^t Taxaa^ froH Jack Ruby, filed at lis 17 A,K, on Vovaaa>ar 2k» 1963, ia attached to tbia latter* On the afternoon of HoTonber 22|., Barly Hight Operations Manager M« J« 'Riley inferraad Assistant Operations Msnager A* I. English that ha was looking for a money order application filed by Jack Ruby that aoming. Nr* l^gliah asked Mr. O'Riley why he wanted it, and )fr. OtRiley said that a Dallas Tijoes Herald reporter had called about the aonay order and he, Mr* O'Riley, was to call the reporter back* Mr. English told Mr. O'Riley that ha would take care of the natter. Mr. English reaoTcd the original money order application filed by Jack Ruby from the traffic filea, after making a skeleton of it, and locked the applica- tion in his desk. Mr. English did not call the news* piper reporter, and as far as he knows, the reporter did not call back about the money order. Mr. English kept the original application under lock and key un- til the day it was due in the bookkeeping department, and then handed it personally to Mr. Pirtle, Book- keeping Manager, with the suggestion that Mr. Pirtle do something to protect the application and prevent it from reaching unauthorised hsnds. Up. Pirtle statea that, to the best of his recollection, the Ruby mraey order application was turned over to him by >b>. English on NoYsmber 27 at Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016 756 A which tiJM Mp« Plrtl« h&d a diuBaj applieatioa auida to b« forwarded to tho moo0j or dor audit or » Mlnnoapollo* Tho original noaoy ordor application wao than roloasod to Cttstoaor Sorrieo Managor V« L. Townaloy to bo hold undor look and koy* boeanso wo woro eonfidont tho ro« oord wonld bo noodod in subaoquont inToatigation* Hr* Townaloy infonaad at of tho oxistanoo of tho Baby nonoy ordor application on Monday aornins» le*- ombor 25* tho day aftor tho monoy ordor waa filod. Mr* Townaloy inforiatd ma that Hr* Sngliah had tho appliea** tion lookod op in hia dosk* In tho noantimo» lor* Engliak had rolin^iahod tbo application to Hr. Pirtlo* Mr. Townaloy obtainod tho application from Mr* Pirtlo and brought it down to mw offieo* I ina true tod Mr* Townaloy to koop tho application lookod in hia doak until it was noodod at a la tor da to* On Monday « lovoxnbor 2$, 1 por* aonally roeoiTod aovoral calla from FBI agonta and a poraonal Tiait from Lt« P. 0. NeCaghron of tho Dallaa Polioo Dopartmant aaking about tho monoy ordor filod by Ruby* All woro informod proper legal procedure wonld have to be followed to obtain any MOD or moaaago* On Monday morning^ I>oceraber 2» aftor wo had atartod our invoatigation aa a roault of the Timea Herald article on loTombor 30 regarding tho Oswald matter^ Off ioo Managor R< T* Bradford aaked Mr* Townaloy for tho Ruby money ordor implication and tbo 9 plication haa boon looked v^ in Mr* Bradford* a doak until now* Senior Delivery Managor *8 Clerk D. E* Lane waitod on Jack Ruby« %fhon Ruby filed the money ordor in quoation on Vovombor 21^.* Mr« Lane roporta that Ruby aaked him for a receipt aayingt "I do got a receipt, don't I, for I need it to got ay monoy book, aa thia ia one of mr oaqployooa** Mr* Lane aasurod Ruby that ho did got a roeoipt aftor which the receipt was made out and handed to him* Ruby then loft the office* lo other oonToraatioa tranapirod between Mr. Lane and Ruby* Mr* Lane atatea poaitiToly that Ruby made no remark about Oswald or Proaident Kennedy's assassination at tho tino tho monoy order waa filod* Mr* Lane a ay a that ho know Ruby by having waitod on him at our counter on other oooasiona, aa he, Mr* Lane, had sold him express orders in tho past and he bolievoa Ruby may have aent other tolographio Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016— Continued 757 3 - MOQAy orders at aoa» previous tia** Wh«n Hp* LaxM l«anMd of Oswald '• •hooting^ hm v&b quits astonish- •d« bsoause the shootiag oceux*ed shortly aftsr ht had waited on Ruby* Lieutenants MoCagren and Revill of the Dallas Police Department eaias in our off iee loveiaber 29 asking about the Ruby aoney order* They ealled on Mr* TowasloT as X was out of the city on that date* The officers then asked Itr* TowBsley vtao Mr* Lane was. snd Kr* Towns ley pointed to 1%** Lane whose desk is in close proxinity of that occupied by Np* Towisley* Mr* Towns ley then called Mr* Lane over to his desk %0bere the officers questioned He* Lens* Mr* Lane reports that Lieutenants MsCagren and RsTill asked hia whether he would know Jack Ruby who had wired sionsy to Karen Bonnet at Ft* Worth en VoTeBU>er 2l|.* Mr* Lane said that he would recognise Ruby since he recalled waiting on hia en the date of the aonoy order* and had waited en Ruby at the counter at other tiaws* Mr* Lane did not tell the offioers anything about the noney order* althou^^ they seamed to have full knowledge of it before coning to our office* The officers asked Mr* Lane whetbor Ruby had a hat en« and he replied that he was wearing s hat* They then handed Mr* Lane several photographs the officers had in their possession at the tins* Itr* Lane picked out the photograph he knew to be Jack Ruby* The offioers then aade a record of Kr* LaneU name snd address* This breach of our rules on tfas part of Mr* Lane is not oottsidered too serious* since at this tine the existence of the aoney order was general knowledge by the press snd others* through Ruby's own admission that such a aanoT order had been sent by hint} however* the natter has been fully re* viewed with Mr* Lane* Nsssrs* Bradford* English* 0*Riley* Pirtle* and Townsley have assured ns that they have not die* closed any inf onaation regarding the Ruby aoney order —Oontinraed Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016 758 'k to anxbody outside of our organization* Written •tatemonts from the following eoployeea are attaehedi lira* BettT Bedwell A. I. Bngiiah Miaa Beaa Hildred Francia D* £• Lane K. T. Plrtle Ward Toimsley Att. Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016— Ck)ntin:ue(i 759 Dallas, December 6, 1963 Mr. Wilcox: Approximately, November 1, 1962, I went to work as the Late Night Manager, and this is when I first came to know Mr. Ruby as one of our customers. During this period of approximately one year, I have waited on Mr. Ruby with a degree of regularity when he made purchases of American Express orders. Sometimes, he would be in frequently, and other times, I would not see him for several weeks. He usually came in around 3:00AI^1 after closing his club, and I do recall that about the second time I waited on him, I asked him for his name and he asked me to show his club name as the purchaser. .. so the stubs were either marked with the name Carousel Club or Vegas Club, whichever the case might be. I think the majority of the money orders sold would show the purchaser as "Carousel Club, 1312 i Commerce St." Most of these money orders were in the amount of fifty dollars, with an occasional order in the am.ount of forty dollars. I have never taken a "wire" money order from Mr. Ruby, and I am fairly sure that I have not waited on him since my return from vacation on November 3, 1963. A^i^^S^^---^ Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016 — Continued 760 Mr, Bradford: Tni3 refers to the the money order application filed by Jack Ruby on November 24. I was at the office on Suiadey, November 24. That afternoon shortly after 3PM Mr. 0' Riley told me he was looking for the money order application. I asked him why and he said a reporter from the Dallas Tii^B s Herald had contacted him and had asked 0' Riley to caLl him back. I told Mr. 0* Riley I would take care of the natter. I went to the files, took the original application out and substituted a brief skeleton. I then kept the application under lock and key in my desk until the day it was due in the Bookkeeping Department. I then took the money order application to Mr. Pirtle and handed it to him personally with the suggestion that piBcautions be taken to not let it fall in unauthorized hands. I had kept Mr. Wilcox fil]e d in as to where the application was. As for the Times Herald reporter - I did not call him back and as far as I know, he did not call back. AIE 12/6-63. (as. £^cju) Mr. English: I transmitted the "Jaok Ruby" money order of November 24 going to a payee at Pt , Worth, Texas. At the tiios I transmitted the money order I knew nothing of the oonneotion between It and happenings at the City Hall. I did not connect the money order with the shooting until I heard the name "Jaok Ruby" mentioned on TV, I was on vacation the week following Sunday when the money order was filed. This is all I know about it, Dallas, December 9, 1963, Automatic Operator. Wilcox Exhibit 3016 — Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016 — Continued 761 Dallas, Texas, December 9, 1963. Kr, Wilcox: When JoCk Ruby came into the counter to file his money order on November 24th, he was not carrying any articles, like camera, brief case etc. The only communications between Mr. Ruby and Myself were these words "I stated good morning and he replied goodraornin^ I t^en figured the money order charges and while doing so Mr. Ruby asked me if he got a receipt, I assured him that I did make him a receipt then he stated that it was for getting his money back from his employee Karen Bennet. I made out his receipt handed it to him and he left. When I learned of Oswald's assasination '»I said that is not possible for he was just here". I did not report to anyone that I had taken this money order just previous to the shooting. I have waited on Mr. Ruby on several previous occasions, principally, on the late night shift when I was relieving on it. He usually purchased american express money order and as I recall always gave the address of his the Carousel as his home address. \-Ihen Mr. Ruby left he left by the door on the left hand side an ' turned toward city hall. 'A Lc^ Q~ y^^ Dallas, December 6, 19^3 Mr, Wilcox: The original money order application dated November Z\\. payable to Karen Bennet, Pt, Worth, Texas, from Jack Ruby^ to my recollection was turned over to me by Mr. English on November 2? at which time a dummy application was prepared and the original re- leased to Mr. Townsley, who advised he was turning it over to Mr. Wilcox, %-)^^^:^.scji^^ Wilcox Exhibit 3016 — Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016 —Oontinued 762 Dallas, Texas, December 6, 1963 Mr. Wilcox: Regarding the original application of the money order Jack Ruby sent to Port Worth, Texas, on Sunday the 2l|.th of November, a Times Herald reporter called Mr, 'Riley, Sunday afternoon, November 2l|th, and inforraed him that the money order had been feent, and said that no doubt it would be of major importance in the investigation of the case, and asked Mr. 'Riley to look it up and call him back, Mr, English was present at the time, Sunday November 2]+, and suggested to Mr. 'Riley that he ( Mr, English) look it up, which he did, Mr. English removed the money order application from the file, replacing it with a skeleton, but did not call the newspaper re- porter back, and instead, placed the application in his desk. I knew the money order had been sent by Jack Ruby, because I was at the office that Sunday, the 2lj.th, and when the name of the person who shot Oswald was announced, Mr. Lane, who took the order from Jack Ruby, said that he had sent a money order just a few minutes before he went to the City Hall and did the killing. Realizing that this would turn out to be a very important piece of paper, I thought that I had better obtain it from our files, and ask Mr, Wilcox what he desired that we do with it as I was certain that one or more law enforcement officers would come to me with questions, or wanting to see it, and I knew we wouldn't want anyone discussing it, or showing it around, Monday, the 25th, when I called the service department, they said Mr, English had it, and then I called Mr, English and told him my thoughts about it. He said he had come to the same conclusion- so he brought the application to Mr, Wilcox, On November 29th, the day Mr, Wilcox was out of the city, Lts, Revill and McCaghren of the local police department came in asking about this money order. They asked who Mr, Lane was and I pointed him out, then they talked to him a few minutes. They produced some pictures, but at that time, my telephone rang, and I was not in on their complete conversation with Mr, Lane, ^^.p^.-.-^^^^^^^' Wilcox Exhibit 3016 —OontinjuM Wilcox Exhibit No. 3016 763 E /.. t^^. 'Son Dallas, Texas, December 6, 1963. ^^ , ./<^ Kr, Wilcox: On Sunday the 24th of Movem'Ser, J was working the counter while the money order clerk was gone to lunch, and Jpok Ruby Ccme in, prepared a money orcer application in the amount of •^^25.00 payable to Karen Bennet, at Fort Worth, Texas, care will call. He asked me for a receipt. "He said: "I do get a receipt, don't I, for I need it to get my money beck, as this is one of my employees". I assured him that he did get one, and made the receipt out, and gave it to him. He then left. Nothing else was' said. He did not make any remark about Oswald, or the President's assasination. I knew the man from previous transactions at our counter, as I had sold him express orders, and I believe that at some time he had sent other telegraphic money oroers. \Ajhen I learned of Oswald's shooting, I was quite astonished, since it was soon after I had waited on Ruby. Friday, November 29th, when the local police came in, Mr. Townsley called me and introduced them to me, I believe they were Lts. McCaghren and Revill. They asked me whether I would know the Jack Ruby who sent the money orJer to Karen Bennet at Fort Worth on November 24. I told them I would, as I had waited on him, when he filed the money order, and had had him in the office a number of times. I told them nothing about the money order, they seemed to know all about it. They asked me whether He had a hat on, I told them he did. Then one of the officers harided me some pictures and I picked out the one I knew as Jack Ruby. He took my name and address. I stopped to answer my phone and, when I turned around, they were already .-one. I imagine that they learned about the money order and my name from the receipt vjhich I had given fiuby. I have not told anyone about this money order nor discussed it with anyone, other than above. ^^c.^^ WILCOX EXHIBIT 501? Wilcox Exhibit No. 3017 764 \SSASSINATION IN DALLAS NOVEMBER 22, 1963 THE LAST 25 SECONDS OF HAHHINESS IN THE LIFE OF PRESI DENTJOHN F. KENNEDY - AND THE TRAGEDY. THE TRAGIC EVENTS IN DALLAS ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 FOLLOWED A WARM AND HEARTY WELCOME OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, HIS LOVELY WIFE JACQUELINE, VICE PRESIDENT LYNDON B. JOHNSON AND LADY BIRD, TEXAS GOVERNOR AND MRS. JOHN CONNALLY, AND THE PRESIDENTIAL PARTY. THE MOTORCADE THOIGH THE STREETS OF DALLAS WAS PHOTOGRAPHED MANY TIMES, BUT VERY FEW PICTURES EXIST OF THE FATEFUL SECONDS. WHEN THE LIKE OF A YOUNG AND VIGOROUS PRESIDENT WAS BRUTALLY TERMINATED BY THE ASSASSIN'S BULLETS. THIS SERIES OF COLOR SLIDES, ALL TAKEN BY A DALLAS AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER, IS AUTHENTIC AND HAS NEVER BEEN PUBLISHED BEFORE. THE ONLY OTHER KNOWN PICTURES OF THE TRAGEDY WERE PURCHASED AND PUBLISHED BY SYNDICATED MEDIA. THE PHOTGRAPHER OF THIS SERIES TURNED HIS SLIDES OVER TO THE U.S. SECRET SERVICE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRAGEDY, AND CHOSE TO WAIT A FEW MONTHS BEFORE MAKING THEM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THIS IS THE ONLY EXISTING COMPLETE SERIES COVERING THE LAST 25 SECONDS OF HAPPINESS IN THE LIFE OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, THE TRAGEDY AND IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH. FOLLOWING IS A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF EACH SLIDE IN SEQUENCE SLIDE ONE THE PRESIDENTIAL CAR PASSING THE DALLAS COUNTY COURTHOUSE ON MAIN AT HOUSTON STREET. CHEERING CROWDS LINE THE STREETS, GREETING THE YOUNG PRESIDENT ENTHUS- IASTICALLY, HIS HAPPINESS IS TO LAST ONLY 25 SHORT SECONDS FROM THIS POINT. SLIDE TWO PRESIDENTIAL CAK HAS TURNED ONTO HOUSTON STREET. THE AFFECTION SHOWN JOHN F. KENNEDY IS WARMLY RETURNED BY THE PRESIDENT. HIS WELL KNOWN SMILE CHARMS THE SPECTATORS. ARROW POINTS TO LYNDON B. JOHNSON. SLIDE THREE THE MOTORCADE IS APPROACHING THE FINAL TURN ONTO ELM STREET, LEADING TO THE TRIPLE UNDERPASS TOWARDS STEMMONS EXPRESSWAY AND MARKET HALL, WHERE THE PRESIDENT WAS TO ADDRESS A GATHERING OF DALLASITES. THE BRUTAL ASSASSIN COWERS JUST I BLOCK AWAY AT THE NEXT INTERSECTION. SLIDE FOUR NOW ON ELM STREET IN FRONT OF THE TEXAS SCHOOL BOOK DEPOSITORY, THE KENNEDYS AND CONNALLYS RADIATE HAPPINESS, JUST 3 SECONDS BEFORE THE ASSASSIN'S FIRST *rtOT FINDS ITS MARK. THIS WAS PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S LAST WAVE. SLIDE FIVE ACCORDING TO EYEWITNESSES AND VERIFIED BY INVESTIGATORS, THIS SLIDE WAS TAKEN AT THE EXACT INSTANT THE FIRST BULLET STRUCK THE PRESIDENT FROM BEHIND. ARROW POINTS TO PRESIDENT. SLIDE SIX TWO MORE SHOTS FROM THE TEXAS SCHOOL BOOK DEPOSITORY BUILDING SENT FRIGHTENED BYSTANDERS TO THE GROUND AND COMPLETED THE TRAGEDY WHICH SHOOK THE WORLD WITH A TREMOR OF SHOCK, TERROR AND DISBELIEF AFTER SLIGHT HESITATION, THE MOTORCADE SPED TOWARDS PARK1,AND HOSPITAL WITH THE WOUNDED GOVERNOR AND DEAD PRESIDENT. ARROW POINTS TO SECRET SERVICE AIDE CLIMBING ONTO PRESIDENTIAL CAR. SLIDE SEVEN THE RESULTING CONFUSION AND HORROR WERE INDESCRIBABLE. THE SMALL CROWD AT THE ASSASSINATION SITE STILL HAD NOT GRASPED THE FULL IMPACT OF THE HAPPENINGS. THE BUS SHOWN HERE CARRIED THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS. SLIDE EIGHT „^„^ POLICE LOST NO TIME IN STARTING THE SEARCH FOR THE ASSASSIN. THE SCHOOL BOOK DEPOSITORY IS SURROUNDED. SLIDE NINE WHILE PART OF THE POLICE FORCE KEPT A TIGHT WATCH ON THE BUILDING, THE REST SEALED OFF THE WHOLE AREA. ALMOST MAGICALLY, SHOTGUNS, SUBMACHINE GUNS ETC. SEEMED TO APPEAR FROM NOWHERE. Phil Willis Exhibit 1 Willis Exhibit No. 1 765 SLIDE TEN POSSIBLE SUSPECTS WERE QUESTIONED AND RELEASED IF FOUND NOT INVOLVED, WHILE OTHERS WERE TAKEN TO HEADQUARTERS FOR FURTHER QUESTIONING. IN THE MEANTIME, THE BIGGEST MAN HUNT IN DALLAS HISTORY IS UNDER WAY. SLIDE ELEVEN AT THIS TIME, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS ALREADY MILES AWAY, THE ASSASSIN WAS STILL THOUGHT TO BE IN THE BUILDING. SLIDE TWELVE FROM THIS WINDOW OF THE TEXAS SCHOOL BOOK DEPOSITORY BUILDING IN DALLAS, TEXAS- SEE ARROW- THE ASSASSIN FIRED THE THREE SHOTS WHICH SO SUDDENLY ENDED THE LIFE AND CAREER OF JOHN F. KENNEDY, CRITICALLY WOUNDED IKE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, JOHN CONNALLY, AND CAUSED GRIEF AND MOURNING IN ALL CIVILIZED NATIONS. MAY THESE SLIDES SERVE AS A PERMANENT RECORD OF THE LAST MOMENTS IN THE LIFE OF A GREAT MAN OF COURAGE, AND A HISTORICAL EVENT UNPARALLELED IN OUR LIFETIME. TO THIS END, THIS SERIES IS DEDICATED. b COPYRIGHT 1964 BY PHIL WILLIS — Phil WilUs Exhibit 1 Willis Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 766 ".««.^ejN^Ti^ W D^'uks - NOVEMBER 22, 1963 ^^JsT^^'^Toa^s otK.piness in President Kennedy-And The Che Life of Tragedy ^^ D D Willis Exhibit No. 1— Continued (Slide No. 1) Willis Exhibit No. 1— Continued (Slide No. 2) 768 Willis Exhibit No. 1 — Continued (Slide No. 3) Willis Exhibit No. 1 — Continued (Slide No. 4) 744-732 O— 64— vol. XXI 51 769 jS:*^,,, Willis Exhibit No. 1 — Continued (Slide No. 5) Willis Exhibit No. 1 —Continued (Slide No. 6) 770 Willis Exhibit No. 1 —Continued (Slide No. 7) Willis Exhibit No. 1 —Continued (Slide No. 8) 771 "^»*?:^ Willis Exhibit No. 1— Continued (Slide No. 9) Willis Exhibit No. 1— Continued (Slide No. 10) 772 Willis Exhibit No. 1 —Continued (Slide No. 11) Willis Exhibit No. 1 —Continued (Slide No. 12) 7T3 rEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT. // ^' i ^ GANO EDWARD WORLEYg JR« , Reserve Police Officer^ Dallas Police Deparxinents Dallas 3 Texas, residence 8 35 North Ewing Street, Apartment Dj furnished the following information: On the night of November- 23, 1963, WORLEY was contacted by Captain Co 0„ ARNETT, Reserve Police Officer, and instructed to report to the Central Police Station on the morning of November 24, 1963, WORLEY reported to the Central Police Sj:ation_at a>p^t 9;00 AM on November 2^^ ^^^^s ^^'^ ^'^^ ^^^ assigned by peg^ilar^' I%lice*§^-^, (5',1iR0Y to xhe Information ^j^Z'^ -,in other Reserve '^P^-^-^^cWi^^-j' ^^N ( \ t^ 1 November 27> 1963 . Dnt. EARN NORMAN, Master of Ceremonies at the Largo Night Club, 9009 Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles, advisdd he had worked for JACK RUBY in Dallas, Texas, for a total of 14 to I5 months. He stated he opened at RUBY's club ih June or July, I96O. He stopped working resularly for him in late I96I, month not recalled^, He stated he worked for RUBY for one or two weeks thereafter and sometimes worked on Saturdays when he was in Dallas. The last times he worked for RUBY at his Carousel Club were one week in July, 1963, and one week in August, I963. NORMAN stated he was aware only of RUBY's activities in Dallas and knew nothing about his background in Chicago, RUBY's parents, or their origins or backgroimd. He stated he had no knowledge of any underworld connections of ROBY's in. Chicago and claimed he had no knowledge of such connections in the Dallas area.. Regarding RUBY's connections with the Dallas Police Department, NORMAN stated RUBY was the type of person who always I tried to be acquainted with police but was more apt to be acquainted with the officers on the beat and the officers who checked night J ^ t clubs in automobile units . NORMAN could not recaU_jany_EQlice I , ^.-.^ * officers who regularly frequented tTie"club and: especially did not J < ^ 6 I recan^anyniTgirpIace^^orrrcers-wno-^ He stated RUBY~was not the~^tjT)e~or marTpolice oTficers would have — ^^^3,v^ ^ y mingled with socially to any great extent, and he had no further knowledge concerning them. "^ NORMAN stated most of RUBY's newspaper connections appeared to be with the men in thej)res3 and printing room and . anyone else who could assi'3t~lil]ri:n"geTrt!QTgTTr3-advertisement3 placed on the entertainment pages in the most favorable location. NORMAN believed RUBY knew most of the newspaper reporters but stated it was possible some of the reporters might not have known him by sight, although NORMAN was of the opinion that most of them would have known RUBY. He stated that while RUBY always tried to n.alntain friendly relations with the press, he had never seen Entertainment Reporter DON SAFARIN of the Dallas Times-Herald in the club and had only seen TONY ZOPPI of the Dallas Morning News in the club on two or three occasions while he worked there. NORMAN characterized RUBY as a man who forced himself to be .^^ — gregarious and 4;ried tp maintain contacts with the newspaper, c^/o^f^ AcNMwv^AA C LiU/.yUl fey : On 11/26/63 nt Los Angeles, California fh. % Los Angeles 44-895 SA LLOYD D. JOHNSON and by ALDO A. GIANNECCHINI;ps D„„ ji,,„,.j 11/27/63 Thu doeumant contains nallher racommendatlons nor conclusions of «h» FBI. It Is ths property of ths FBI and U loansd to your a7sney; II and Its contsnis are not to bs distributed outside your agency. ' ~'^ ' Lwright, Norman Exhibit 1 Wright Exhibit No. 1 (78 2 LA 44-895 the police, and with prominent people such as doctors and lawyers NORMAN stated RUBY appeared to always carry a gun when he was taking large amounts of money to the bank and would place the money in a flat plastic zipper-type bank case and then carry a gun in a blue cloth bank bag, NORMAN stated he would not have known this excepting he once saw RUBY take the gun out of the bag and thereafter was of the opinion that RUBY always had the gun in this bag. He stated he never saw RUBY carry the gun on his person or in a holster but only in the bag when handling money. He described the gun as a blue steel revolver^ make and caliber unknown. NORMAN stated he had never met LEE HARVEY OSWALD and did not recognize him from pictures in the paper and on television and had no knowledge that RUBY knew OSVJALD or had any connection with him. NORMAN stated he had never heard RUBY make any state- ment which would su£g2St RUBY had any left wing or subversive connections, of any kind, and his only interest in politics appeared to be his interest in President KENNEDY. NORMAN stated he had never heard of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee and had never heard RUBY mention the organization. NORMAN stated he was not aware RUBY had any particular Interest in politics as such; however, he knew RUBY admired President KENNEDY greatly and on occasion stated he had to go home to watch President KENNEDY »s news conference on television. NORMAN stated he had mentioned in his interview on a Los Angeles television station that he had had an argument with RUBY. He stated you could not work for RUBY without having an argument but stated that this argument was due to the fact that NORT^AN was on the board of the American Guild of Variety Artists in Dallas, and the Guild had made several decisions contrary to RUBY'S interests. RUBY blamed NORMAN for these decisions although they were board decisions. NORMAN stated he had gone to RUBY'S club the last time, he believed on Friday, November 13, 1963 > and RUBY met him at the door and stated he did not want NORMAN to come to the club any more as he felt NORTON was not a friend. They had a few words of argument and NORMAN left, NORMAN stated they did not engage In an actual physical fight. '~1 ^^7 fe: C^^- Wright Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 779 X5 44-895 NORMAN stated the closest associate of RUBY'S he knew outside of personnel at the club v?a3 RALPH PAUL who operates a drive-in restaurant in Arlington, Texas. NORMAN believed PAUL must have had an investment in RUBY'S club, because PAUL would show up at the club, usually on the week ends, and RUBY would :,ive him money which NORMAN believed to be a cut from the club, NORMAN stated another individual who was a close friend of RUBY'S was a man named GEORGE (LNU) who lived in the same apartment house as RUBY in the Oak Cliffs section of Dallas and was frequently in the club, NORMAN characterized RUBY as a "loner," even though he went out of his way to meet people, and was not close to many people. NORMAN stated he had no knowledge that RUBY had homo- sexual tendencies, although he had heard gossip to this effect, and stated RUBY had never approached him in this manner. He stated RUBY frequently dated show girls and other girls at the. club and appeared normal in this respect. NORMAN stated he could always be located through his home address, 6013 Ksiger Street, Dallas, telephone TAylor 7-8424, or through the Ainoricaii Guild of Variety Artists. Wbight Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 780 One hundred yards more and they would have reached the Yarborough Exhibit A 781 s afety of an overpass. Then three shots rang out. Yarborough Exhibit A—^Oontinued 782 ^^^"-'C LIBRARY ?,nfn,?^ illllilllll 3 9999 06314 133 5