f ejvf E842.9.A54 "Bi B^ INVESTIGATION OF THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY HEARINGS Before the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy Pursuant to Executive Order 11130, an Executive order creating a Commission to ascertain, evaluate, and report upon the facts relating to the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of the man charged with the assassination and S.J. Res. 137, 88th Congress, a concurrent resolution conferring upon the Commission the power to administer oaths and affirmations, examine witnesses, receive evidence, and issue subpenas EXHIBITS GALLAGHER to OLIVER Volume XX PUBLIC ] UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON, D.C. RfoH;: r T\ y\*^;>~. \^fe:S*' U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, WASHINGTON : 1964 For sale in complete sets by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Washington, D.C., 20402 PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY Chief Justice Earl Warren. Chairman Senator Richard B. Russei.i. Representative Gerald R. Ford Senator John Sherman Cooper Mr. Allen W. Dulles Representative Hale Boggs Mr. John J. McCloy J. Lee Rankin, General Counsel Assistant Counsel Francis W. H. Adams Albert E. Jenner, Jr. Joseph A. Ball Wesley J. Liebeler David W. Belin Norman Redlich William T. Coleman, Jr. W. David Slawson Melvin Aron Eisenberg Arlen Specter Burt W. Griffin Samuel A. Stern Leon D. Hubert, Jr. Howard P. Willens* Staff Members Phillip Barson Edward A. Conroy John Hart Ely Alfred Goldberg Murray J. Laulicht Arthur Marmor Richard M. Mosk John J. O'Brien Stuart Pollak Alfredda Scobey Charles N. Shaffer, Jr. Biographical information on the Commissioners and the staff can be found in the Commission's Report. *Mr. Willens also acted as liaison between the Commission and the Department of Justice. iii Contents Gallagher, John F. Pr. Marion T. Jenkins to the dean of the Southwestern Medical School, dated November 22, 1963, concerning the resuscitative efforts made in behalf of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963. Jenkins, Ronald L. 1 254-256 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Ronald L. Jenkins, dated December 10, 1963. Johnson, Arnold S. 1 257-259 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Worker, dated June 10, 1962. 2 260 Letter from Arnold S. Johnson to Lee Harvey Oswald, dated July 31, 1963. 3 261 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to Arnold S. Johnson, dated August 13, 1963. 4 262-264 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Communist Party, dated August 28, 1963. 4-A 265 Letter from Arnold S. Johnson to Lee Harvey Oswald, dated September 19, 1963. 5 266-268 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to Mr. Bert of the Worker, dated August 31, with envelope. 5-A 269 Photograph of an advertisement for the Worker. 6 270 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Communist Party, dated September 1, 1963. 7 271-275 Undated letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to Arnold S. Johnson, with envelope postmarked November 1, 1963. Johnson, Gladys J. A 276 Copy of a roominghouse register, dated October 14, 1963, through November 25, 1963, bearing the signature O. H. Lee. Johnson, Priscilla M. 1 277-285 Copy of handwritten notes taken by Priscilla M. Johnson during an interview with Lee Harvey Oswald, on or about November 16, 1959. 2 286-289 Copy of an article submitted by Priscilla Johnson to North Ameri- can Newspaper Alliance. 3 290 Copy of a newspaper clipping entitled "The Stuff of Which Fanat- ics Are Made," published in the Boston Globe, on November 24, 1963. xi Johnson, Priscilla M. —Continued Page 4 291 Copy of a newspaper clipping of an interview with Priscilla John- son, published in the Christian Science Monitor, on November 25, 1963. 5 292-306 Copy of a statement made by Priscilla Johnson to the Department of State. 6 307-311 Magazine clipping entitled "Oswald in Moscow," published in Harpers magazine in April 1964. Johnson, Speedy 1 312 Copy of an FBI report of an interview of Speedy Johnson, dated December 6, 1963. Johnston, David L. 1 313-316 Report prepared by David L. Johnston concerning certain events surrounding the assassination. 2 317-318 Copy of a handwritten list prepared by David L. Johnston of per- sons involved in the local investigation of the assassination. 3 319-320 Sworn aflSdavit of J. W. Fritz, dated November 22, 1963, charging Lee Harvey Oswald with the murder of Officer J. D. Tippit. 4 321-322 Sworn affidavit of J. W. Fritz, dated November 22, 1963, charging Lee Harvey Oswald with the murder of President John F. Kennedy. 5 323-324 Sworn aflSdavit of Robert E. McKinney, dated November 22, 1963, charging Lee Harvey Oswald with attempting to murder Gov- ernor Connally. Jones, Orville A. 5054 325 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Orville A. Jones, dated November 25, 1963. 5055 326-328 Copy of a letter from Orville A. Jones to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5056 329-331 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Orville A. Jones, dated December 2, 1963. 5057 332 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Orville A. Jones. Jones, Ronald C. 1 333 Copy of a statement made by Dr. Ronald C. Jones, dated Novem- ber 23, 1963, concerning the resuscitative efforts made in behalf of President John F. Kennedy on Noveml>er 22, 1963. Kaiser, Frankie A 384 Photograph showing the point at which a clipboard was discov- ered in the Texas School Book Depository Building. B 334 Photograph showing the window sill on which a coat was discov- ered in the domino room of the Texas School Book Depository Building. xii Kaiser, Frankie —Continued ^"-^^ C 335 Photograph showing details of the window sill described in Kaiser Exhibit B. Kantor, Seth 1 336 Sketch drawn by Seth Kantor of the main entrance and emergency areas of Parkland Hospital in Dallas. 2 337 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Seth Kantor. 3 338-402 Handwritten notes made by Seth Kantor concerning events sur- rounding the assassination. 4 403-121 Notes typed from a tape recording made by Seth Kantor concern- ing President Kennedy's trip to Texas, November 21-22, 1963. 5 422-426 Handwritten notes made by Seth Kantor of an interview with Mrs. Michael Paine, and handwritten notes concerning Mrs. J. D. Tippit. 6. 427 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Seth Kantor, dated December 3, 1963. 7 428-432 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Seth Kantor, dated December 3, 1963. 8 433-437 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Seth Kantor, dated January 3, 1964. Kaufman, Stanley F. 1 438-439 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Stanley F. Kaufman, dated November 26, 1963. Kelley, Thomas J. A 440-446 Memoranda of interviews with Lee Harvey Oswald on November 23-24, 1963, as summarized by In.spector Thomas J. Kelley of the U.S. Secret Service. Kelly, Edward 5133 447 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Edward Kelly, dated December 10, 1963. King, Glen D. 1 448 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Glen D. King, dated January 31, 1964. 2 449-450 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Glen D. King, dated December 11, 1963. 3 451^52 Copy of a letter from Glen D. King to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated December 2, 1963. 4 453-461 Galley proof of a speech made by Glen D. King before the Amer- ican Society of Newspaper Editors. 5 462-469 Copy of the speech described in King Exhibit No. 4. xiii Kleinman, Abraham -Paj/e 1 470-472 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Abraham Kleinman, dated December 10, 1963. Knight, Russell 1 473 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Russell Lee Moore, a.k.a. Russ Knight, dated November 29, 1963. Kramer, Monica 1-2 474-475 Photographs taken on August 10, 19G1, in Central Square, Minsk, Russia. Kravitz, Herbert B. 1 476 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Herbert B. Kravitz, dated November 29, 1963. Kriss, Harry M. 5106 477 Copy of a letter from Harry M. Kriss to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5107 478-479 Copy of an FBI reiwrt of an interview with Harry M. Kriss, dated December 4, 1963. 5108 480 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Harry M. Kriss. Lane, Doyle R. 5118 481 Copy of an application by .Tack Ruby for a money order, dated November 24, 1963. 5119 481 Copy of a money order receipt given to Jack Ruby, dated Novem- ber 24, 1963. Lawrence, Perdue W. 1 482-488 Handwritten instructions from Chief Batchelor to Perdue W. Lawrence, concerning traffic control for the Presidential motor- cade. 2 489^-^95 Copy of personnel assignments for the Presidential motorcade made by Perdue W. Lawrence, dated November 21, 1063. 3 496 Copy of supplementary assignments made by Perdue W. Lawrence, dated November 22, 1963. 4 497-498 Copy of a letter from I'erdue W. Lawrence to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated July 15, 1964. Leavelle, James R. A 499-503 Copy of a report by James R. Leavelle concerning the shooting of President John F. Kennedy and of Officer Tippit. 5088 504-505 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with James R. Leavelle, dated November 25, 1963. 5089 506-507 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with James K. Leavelle. dated December 11, 1963. xiv Leavelle, James R. — Continued P^oe 5090 508-509 Copy of a report by James R. Leavelle concerning the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald. Lee, Ivan D. A 510 Photograph showing the rear of General Walker's residence at 4011 Turtle Creek Boulevard in Dallas. B 510 Photograph showing the entrance to a driveway leading to the residence of General Walker Lee, "Vincent T. 1 511 Undated letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. 2 512-513 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Fair Play for Cuba Com- mittee, dated May 26. 3 514-516 Letter from V. T. Lee, national director of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, to Lee Harvey Oswald, dated May 29, 1963. 3-A 517 Letter from V. T. Lee, national director of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, to Lee Harvey Oswald, dated May 22, 1963. 4 518-523 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to V. T. Lee, enclosing a leaflet en- titled "Hands Off Cuba" and Fair Play for Cuba Committee order blank. 5 524-525 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to V. T. Lee, dated August 1. 6 526-528 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to V. T. Lee, dated August 12, 1963, enclosing a sworn affidavit charging Oswald and others with disturbing the peace in New Orleans, and a newspaper clipping concerning the conviction of Oswald for disturbing the peace. 7 529-531 Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to V. T. Lee, dated August 17, with envelope. 8-A 531 Change-of -address card from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, postmarked May 14, 1963. 8-B 532 Change-of-address card from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, postmarked June 12, 1963. 8-C 532 Change-of-address card from Lee Harvey Oswald to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, postmarked November 2, 1963. 9 533 Envelope from Lee Harvey Oswald to V. T. Lee, Fair Play for Cuba Committee, postmarked August 4, 1963. Lewis, Aubrey L. 1 533 Dallas Police Department photographs of Lee Harvey Oswald, taken November 23, 1963. Lewis, L. J. A 534 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with L. J. Levi'is, dated January 22, 1964. XV Lowery, Roy L. Page 5081 535 Copy of a letter from Roy L. Lowery to Chief "Jesse E. Curry, dated November 24, 1963. 5082 536-537 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Roy L. Lowery, dated November 25, 1963. 5083 538-542 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Roy L. Lowery, dated December 3, 1963. 5084 543 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Roy L. Lowery. 5085 544-545 Copy of a report from P. G. McCaghren to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated December 1, 1963. McCullough, John G. 1 546 Sketch of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, dra\\'n by John G. McCullough. 2 547-551 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with John G. ^McCullough, dated December 1, 1963. McCurdy, Danny P. 1 552-553 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Danny P. McCurdy, dated November 29, 1963. McMillon, Thomas D. 5015 554 Sketch drawn by Thomas D. McMillon of the location of the Po- lice and Courts Building. 5016 555 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Thomas D. McMillon. 5017 556-560 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Thomas D. McMillon, dated December 5, 1963. 5018 561-562 Copy of a letter from Thomas D. McMillon to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 27, 1963. 5019 563-564 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Thomas D. McMillon, dated November 25, 1963. 5020 565-570 Copy of handwritten version of McMillon Exhibit No. 5018. Markham, Helen L. 1 571-599 Copy of a transcript of a tape recording of an alleged telephone conversation between Helen L. Markham and Mark Lane. 2 600-601 Letter from James Kerr to Helen L. ]Markhani, dated July 10, 1964, with envelope. Martin, Frank M. 5058 602 Copy of a letter from Frank M. Martin to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5059 603-604 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Frank M. Martin, dated December 2, 1963. xvi Martin, Frank M. — Continued ^"^^ 5060 605 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by Frank M. Martin. Maxey, Billy J. 5094 606-607 Copy of a letter from Billy J. Maxey to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5095 608-609 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Billy J. Maxey, dated December 7, 1963. 5096 610-612 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Billy J. Maxey, dated December 3, 1963. Mayo, Logan W. 5111 613 Copy of a letter from Jack Revill to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated December 3, 1963. 5112 614 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Logan W. Mayo, dated December 5, 1963. Michaelis, Heinz W. 1 615 Copy of a looseleaf notebook page containing a listing of all guns sold from case No. 3 of a purchase from Empire Wholesale Sport- ing Goods, Ltd. 2 616 Copy of Seaport Traders, Inc., dated March 13, 1963, recording the sale of a pistol to A. J. Hidell. 3 617 Original of Michaelis Exhibit No. 2. 4 618 Copy of a Railway Express Agency receipt, dated March 20, 1963, indicating the shipment of a pistol to A. Hidell. 5 619 Railway Express Agency brief of information for c.o.d. shipment to A. J. Hidell. Miller, Austin L. A 620 Sketch of the Triple Underpass area showing the position of Austin L. Miller at the time of the assassination. Miller, Dave L. 1 621-622 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Dave L. Miller, dated January 6, 1964. Miller, Louis D. 5013 623-625 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Louis D. Miller, dated December 5, 1963. 5014 626 Copy of a letter from Louis D. Miller to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. Molina, Joe R. A 627 Letter from Joe R. Molina to the Commission dated March 31, 1964. Montgomery, L. D. 5004 628 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by L. D. Montgomery. xvii 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 2 Montgomery, L. D. —Continued Page 5005 629 Copy of an FBI report of an interview witli L. D. Montgomery, dated December 5, 1963. 5006 630 Copy of an FBI report of an interview witli L. D. Montgomery, dated November 25, 1963. Moore, Henry M. 1 631-637 Copy of a Dallas Police Department receipt for the property of Lee Harvey Oswald, dated November 26, 1963. Murphy, Joe E. A 638 Sketch of the Triple Underpass showing the position of .Joe E. Murphy at the time of the assassination. Murret, Lillian 1 639 Photograph of Marguerite Claverie Oswald and Edwin A. Ekdahl, taken May 5, 194.5. Nelson, Doris M. 1 640-643 Copy of a statement made by Doris Nelson concerning her activi- ties at Parkland Hospital on November 22, 1963. Newman, William J. 5037 644 Diagram of the basement of the Police and Courts Building, as marked by William .T. Newman. 5038 645 Copy of a letter from William J. Newman to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated November 26, 1963. 5038-A 646 Copy of a statement made by William J. Newman. 5038-B 647 Copy of a memorandum from R. W. Westphal to Lieutenant Revill, dated December 6, 1963. 5038-C 648 Copy of a letter from Jack Revill and C. C. Wallace to Chief Jesse E. Curry, dated December 1, 1963. 5038-D 649 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with William J. Newman, dated December 5, 1963. 5038-E 650 Photograph showing man identified by William J. Newman as Jerome Casten. Newnam, John 1 651 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with John Newnam, dated December 4, 1963. 2 652 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with John Newnam, dated December 11, 1963. 3 653-671 Copy of testimony given by John Newnam at the trial of Jack Ruby. 4 672 Sketch of the second floor of the Dallas Morning News Building, drawn by John Newnam. xviii Nichols, Alice R. ^^^ 5355 673-681 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Alice R. Nichols, dated November 25, 196.'i. 5356 682^683 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Alice R. Nichols, dated January 18, 1964. Nichols, H. Louis A / 684-686 Copy of a letter from H. Louis Nichols to Leon Jaworski, dated February 10, 1964. Norton, Robert L. 1 687 Copy of an FBI report of an interview with Robert L. Norton, dated November 29, 1963. Odio, Sylvia 1 688-691 Copy of a letter written in Spanish to Sylvia Odio from her father, dated December 25, 1963. Odum, Bardwell D. 1 691 Photograph of an unknown individual which was furnished the FBI by the Central Intelliuence Agency. Oliver, Revilo P. 1 692-717 Cover, contents page, an article entitled "Assassination and Its Aftermath," and an article entitled "Marxmanship in Dallas" contained in the March 1964 issue of "American Opinion." 2 718-735 Cover, contents page, and an article entitled "Marxmanship in Dallas" from the February 1964 issue of "American Opinion." 3 736-737 Portions of the Congressional Record for December 4, 1963. 4 738-741 December 20, 1963, issue of "The Councilor." 5 742-744 May 17, 1964, issue of National Enquirer. 6 745-748 January 17, 1964, Issue of "The Herald of Freedom." 7 749 Reprint of newspaper item published in the "National Enquirer." 8 750 Reprint of news item in the Jackson, Miss., "Clarion-Ledger" of February 21, 1964. 9 751-752 Portions of the Congressional Record for September 3, 1964. 10 753-793 Original transcript of speech delivered by Revilo P. Oliver while on tour in August and September of 1964. 11 794-797 December 6, 1963, issue of "The Herald of Freedom." 12 798 Newspaper article entitled "UI Officials Study Prof's Article Attacking Kennedy" which appeared in the February 12, 1964, issue of the Chicago Daily News. XIX OmCB OF THE DIRBCTOB i ' — Gallagher Exhibit No. 1 t UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION WASHINGTON IS. D.C. March 18, 1964 By Courier Service Honorable J, Lee Rankin General Counsel The President *s Commission 200 Maryland Avenue, Northeast Washington, D. C« 20002 Dear Mr. Rankin: During the course of discussion of neutron activation analyses between Mr, Melvin Eisenberg of your staff and Special Agent John F. Gallagher of this Bureau on March 16, 1964, Mr. Eisenberg requested the following information: 1* What are some items in common usage which contain barium? Some items that may include barium are: grease, ceramics, glass, paint, printing ink, paper, rubber, plastics, leather, cloth, pyrotechnics, oilcloth and linoleum, storage batteries, matches and cosmetics. , 2. What are some items in common usage which contain antimony? Some items that may include antimony are: matches, type metal, lead alloys, paints and lacquers, pigments for oil and water colors, flameproof textiles, storage batteries, pyrotechnics, rubber, pharmaceutical preparations and calico. 3. What are some items in common usage which contain both barium and antimony? Barium and antimony may be found in the following items: printed paper and cloth, paint, storage batteries, rubber and matches, pyrotechnics and possibly other items. Gallagher Exhibit No. 1 Honorable J. Lee Rankin 4* Would neutron activation analyses show if a bullet passed through the hole in the front of President Kennedy *s shirt near the collar button area and also if a bullet passed through the material of his tie? Neutron activation is a sensitive analytical technique to determine elements present in a substance. During the course of the spectrographic examinations previously conducted of the fabric surrounding the hole in the front of the shirt, including the tie, no copper was found in excess of that present elsewhere in undamaged areas of the shirt and tie. Therefore, no copper was found which could be attributed to projectile fragments. It Is not felt that the increased sensitivity of neutron activation analyses would contribute substantially to the understanding of the origin of this hole and frayed area* Sincerely yours, ^ - 2 - Gallagher Exhibit No. 1 — Continued APPLiCATION FOU Et.IPLOYMENT , ^'f^^ Z'^:- (=^^J-^/f_^'-'-W„^,, S(,,l» 7~C^^^^^ ;] Singl. 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Associate Aiicsthesiolosict Dcpartaeiit of Anesthesiology Subject: Karracivc eunaury - aucathcoia caro for Governor John Connally Jpon notification ty Dr. M. T. Jcnicino tliat the Prcoidcnc had been shot, I jT'ibbcd ray cquipuent and proceeded to the E:;;;cr3cncy Rooia via the elevator. 5r. Jcnlcins had taken Che ctairo. Dr. Jackie Hunt brousht an anesthesia aachine. Dr. Gene A!;in vaa also alon3. Bro. Hunt, Alcin and xjyaelf asaioted 3r. Jcr.kino in cstablichins ventilation in the President, then Dr. Hunt >rocceucd across the hall to check on Governor Connally' s requireecnts vzhile [ hooked an oscilloscope to the President with the assistance of Dr. Don Curtis, an Oral Cuv^jory resident. Having been auinraonod by Dr. Hunt to attend o Governor Cciiiially, I loft the room just as Doctors Bashcur, Seldin, and lark arrived. t ru:;hcJ to operatins rooa No. 5 in the Ilain Operating Suite on the second loor, where Governor Connally had been talcen. On the way. Dr. Hunt briefed 10 thet she had cjcairancd the Governor and found hia color to be ashen, pulse >f nor-*:nl rate and volume, but he was dyspneic and tachypaeic, {prunting as he :i:alcd. She recalled havins passed a cufflink to Mrs. Connally while the Jovcrnor x.-as having a choot tube placed* (penarrival in operating roon No. 5 Joe tL-:ta, our orderly, brought ice an r^csthosia ir-.chinc, which I hurriedly chocked for safe operation. I then ntroduccd Ciysclf to the Governor, dctcndLned that ho had not eaten since arly corning, had not had any serious medical illnesses and had not been in ihcck. At this tiinc ho liad 150 tnl. of blood above tho tape in the chest ottlc, his color was as described, his nail beds Xv'cre cyanotic, his pulse was 00 and full, ho was alort and unprcxaedicatcd. I checked his siouth for foreign odics and started 10 liters per niiuito 02:ygen by cask from the anesthesia lachinc. A^: this ti&io ho \/as having a cutdown pcrforucd in his right ankle Giesecke Exhibit 1 GiESECKE Exhibit No. 1 ..... c. ,. «cc. ,v....-.i=..-«|OP SECKET , r.vrl-.la-Ad i:cT.orir:l HoGpital I.Ic/vc7.i»cr 25, 1903 rr.fjo 2 - ITr.rvr.tivc curxvjri'-aaocthcaia caro cr.d hie truv;!: clicvcd froa the clr.vJ.clca tloxr.^, Includlus tho rlclit a::illa. A "olcy cctUcici* x:a3 bcia^ placcJ in liic blaci<2c*- aud 200 cc. urino uao recorded. r/jccu2C of hie poor color, vccpiraCory distress, aad pro'oablo lor^c blood Iogo, I decided to or.it pcntothal and to ucc cyclopropane cad o:r^ccn, Accordinoly, I ac!;ed for r-ict; and for tlic Governor to bo covered \7ith a clean cottcn biarJ-.ct:. :^t 1300, tx-:enty ninutcjj after arrival In tbc Encrsoncy P.ooa, I ctartcd cioi.'ly \rlt^ £00 cc. cycloproiiano per r.inutc plua 2 litcro of oj-y^ca per minute, ni3 color had i:q-.rovod but hia rcopiratio-no vera still rapid at 40 with c^iintins ciilialations. The Governor loot conccioucncci; xrithout o::citcncnJ: at 1307 end uao j^ivcn CO sr^. cuccinylcholinc chloride very aicjly intravenously to prevent hard far.ciculationa and pasaivc rci^r^itation. Lcrynsoacopy vao atraumtic and caay and no abnorr.ialitics were noted, rnc pharyir: and trachea was cpraycd v/ith 4/i cocaine and intubated \;xth a 34 ?r. endotracheal tubo with a ICnicht-Crisrs-Sandcre cu.^f \;hich uao inflated Co provide a jjood fit. Durinf; the induction Drc. Hunt and Dcuon Baiter connected the leads to tho EGG :-'c-nitor.Dr. Hunt reported a very transient bradycardia during the intubation. ^"ic pulse rapidly rctur:icd Co ICO and the EIXJ loohcd norr.'^l. A blood pressure * cuff and ctcthc-scopc x:aa applied to the left am and blood pressure uas noted at 1C0/7O. Tnc c::plosion»proof X-ray fiachiiia \;a3 tiovod in and X-rays tal;cn of tho chaot, ri^it arta, and left thi^h ai^d Ic^* Blood vas dra\rn for typo and crcss-.-.utch, and the hcuo^lobia uas reported ao 15.2 c?n.%, urino iiorj:'.al. rx.apirationD uorc controlled, the position of the endotracheal tube uao chcchcd by auscultation of the chest and rcfcrciico to the Il-rays. Tlic Governor was placed in a scrl-latoral position uith tho voundcd side up. Tlic ri^ht arm x-'as cupportcd in a clinaover hio chest frca tho operating table. Tiic chin incision \Taa isadQ at 1335, 55 minutco after arrival in tho liscrscncy Roou, Doctors Cliaw, Loland, and Dulco operated for 1 hour 45 ninutea. The position to supine, and Doctors Gregory and Csbomo operated on the ara and x:as ch::n:;;cd Doctors ShircE, Eaictor, and llcClelland operated on tho left thi^h oiuailtai^ccusly. Tiic cyclopropane x:.'.s turned off at 10-v5 and 50 v^. r.'^cridinQ xras ^ivcn intra- venously." Tiie Governor regained conscio'ucncss during the application of tho cast to the rir;ht arm and forcarra. Tnc endotracheal tube was irri:;atcd x.rith 50 si. norr-ul calinc- in 10 \rl, incrc^ntc, follcx/od by suctioning, vhlch yielded r.cr:erata cj^ountc of bloody ctucouo. TIic oropharyn:c uas cleaned. Tlic'cstiniatcd blood loss at curccry xwa 1,21)6 cc. in tho chest bottle, auction bottle, and \,-ci.cy.\z<.l s-r.oXiZO'j, Urino output tras 450 cc. llo received 3 liters of ?v.inj;icr'o lactate, 2 liters of Xviiich contained 57. dc::trosc; 2,000 nl. x;holo blood; ai^.d 125 vil, 57* dczctroso in water. Color tjco pinl;, puloo 110, blood pressure 120/70, c::trer.'iitic5 t7cro v;ara cad dry. He vaa awalco, could open hio eyes and nod his. haad on camand, cad co uao c::tubatcd. Total aaocthotic timo wao 3 hourc 50 cinutcs; opcrotias tina 3 Uouro 15 utnutco* . . Giesecke Exhibit 1 GiESECKE Exhibit No. 1 — Continued :..o...rr.=c..<^i..„t.aJOP SECRET Pcrklcr.d Kcaorial lloapital Kcvc=I;cr 25, 19 G3 ?r^o 3 - KnrrativQ sii:imry«ancstheoia ccro for Covn'-rnor John. Connnlly Upoa c::tubctlon, Govomor Connolly ciiolto icsnadlatoly, ocying he folt veil tuw "sJCiS so::u:-;:1ui£ restless, end bc^jan jjroania^ and c^-unting, Taa irzacdlate poctqjcrctivc course vao satisfactory, without hypotenaion, and with only a hint of cyar.oaia, x;hich rooolvcd over the follovd.n3 3-4 hourc, during wliich period he cocplalncd of corcacaa of hia right ohouldcr and a sensation of needing to urinate, caused by the urctlurul cathcteor. Luring curscry he received 1 nillioa units of pcaicillia after dcterciinins he x.'ss not ocasitivo by diccuscioa vriLth bis x/ife and a call to Dr. Swift in Austin, Te::a5. In addition ho received 500 mg. tctrccycllno. Eo had received 0.5 cc> tetanus toccoid ia tho Emorgcuocy Room prior to transfer to the Main Operating Suita. Siac2i:oly,' A. H. Gicsccko, Jr./ K.D. ^^ ^ , . cc: Dr. A. J. Gill, Dean Giesecke Exhibit 1 GiESEOKE Exhibit Xo. 1 — Continued FD.302 (R.». j.3-5») r'EDERAL BUREAU OF INVEST1GA1 .s/.>J n... 6/19/64 Mr. CLYDB F. GOODSON, Patrolman, Dallas Police ^ < ^ Department, Dallas, Texas, advised that he and ROBERT B. >^ ^, ^^ COUNTS relieved Oifficer H. L. KENLEY at 5:30 P.M. on No- i^v ^ ^^^J ^ veniber 22 1963 to guard the door to the entrance of the , , ^ ^ Homicide Bureau of the Dallas Police Department. Ito. \- if GOODSON stated there was only one door to the entrance ^ t^^H:^ to of this Homicide Bureau and everyone entering it had "^ .pass by him and Officer COUNTS. ^^^"^ GOODSON related that he knew JACK RUBY and he did . > nor did not see JACK RUBY at any time while he was on duty, ^ he was JACK RUBY attempt to enter the Homicide Bureau vsiile , cf on guard at the entrance to the Homicide Bureau. ^ f Mr. ^OODSON related that shortly before 6s00 P.M., i as he recalls, a man fitting the description of JACK RLi^Y ^ enter. came to the door of the Homicide Bureau and wanted to ^ ^ only authorized law-enforcement officers -2 \^i He told him that stated could enter and asked him for his identification. Ee he was not a law-enforcement officer and turned the man said and went back down the hall. Mr. GOODSON stated that he went off duty between 7:30 P.M. and 8:00 P.M. that night. -izr^ Goodson, Clyde F». Exhi" it 1 6/18/64 Dallas, Texas p,,. # PL 44-1639 on VINCENT E. DRAIN/ds : j .: p^,^ j..,,,,„j _6A8^^64 by Spocicl Agont 1^ prop.rly ol th. FBI ond U loan.d lo Thl:. i-. -ont contalnB n.Uhor r.eomm.ndollona nor conclu.lon. of Ih. FBI. It I. th. your og^ -/; U ond Ita contants ai« not to ba dUtrlbutod outald* your ooancy. Goodson Exhibit No. 1 ro.J03 (n.».a-J-s») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1 ^ Doto 11/2^/63 Mrs. EVA L. GRANT, 3 92 9 Rawlins Street (Apartment I), Dallas, Texas, x*as interviewed at her apartment in the presence of y.rs. PAULINE HALL, a close personal friend of Mrs. GRANT. Mrs. GRANT advised that she is the sister of JACK LEON RUBY. ^ Mrs. GRANT advised that she has been very upset over the ^ j events which have occurred in Dallas, Texas, be^jinnins Friday, ,^s November 22, 1963, with the assassination of President KENNEDY. She'^ ^' ''• informed that on Tuesday morning, November 19, 1963, she and her '^ .j ^^ brother saw a picture in the local Dallas paper concerning President T\i T' , KENNEDY and his young son at the President's desk. She said that ^^ ^^v '- JACK RUBY called the picture to her attention and in very glov/ing «^ ^ r terms was very enthusiastic about the President, He told her, for ^-.S example, that "That man doesn't act like a President. He acts just C -' ' "- like a normal everyday man with a family." She stated that on ^'- > . November 22, 1963, a Friday morning, her telephone rang at her l^ T- apartment, and it was her brother, JACK RUBY, calling. RUBY asked /^ her if she saw the advertisement in the morning paper v/hich was a ^? .^/ full-page ad addressed to "Mr. Kennedy" by BERNARD V/EISMANN. She o said that JACK RUBY was very upset about this article and, f undoubtedly it bothered him a great deal, not only on that day but ^^ ^- for the next two or three days. He called V/£I£>tANN an "SOB" and ^ also said that the newspaper was completely wrong in accepting the ,^ ad. She advised that he told her he had called the "Times Herald" newspaper in Dallas, and they had advised him that they had turned down and refused to accept the same advertisement. He was very commending in his statement regarding that paper refusing the advertisement. Mrs. GRANT stated that he was most upset that the ad v/as addressed to Mr, KENNEDY and thought it should have been addresse-d to the Honorable President if it had to be in the paper. She stated that he came to her apartment that day and had the ad fros ! his own paper and took the ad from her paper. She said she understood both copies of this ad were found in RUBY's automobile after his arrest by the Dallas Police Officers. She stated that ZkZlL P.TTEY told her that he had contacted the paper which ran the advertisement and asked them "^Vhere in the hell do you get off \ Ex. No.l GIu-I'!T, iiva Daposition D.:llas, Te;cas 5-2o-c4 11/2 ^/63 » Dallas. Texas Pilo j^ DL 44-1639 JACK B. PEDEnJ^' 7 Spocial Agont g ^>ft^XON G. IHOteON ; PaPl Doto dictated ll/2 '^/oS rhl» documaat contain* /alther r*cofflm«n4atlona nor conclusion* o( tho FBI. It la tho proparty ol tha FBI and la .oanod to 'our aqmney; H ^"'' l'* comanta ara not to ba dlatribu,<.i eutalda your a^ancy. Grant Exhibit No. 1 DL 44-1639 JBP,GCT:inain 2 "taking an ad like that? Are you money hungry?"/ She said that RUBY felt it was a rotten thing for any person to question the way the President was running this country. She said that RUDY made a statement regarding the advertisement and regarding WEISM.\NN, whose name appeared a-c the bottom of the ad, that "If that guy is a Jew they ought to v/hack the hell out of him." By that, she advised since RUBY is a Jew he felt that this reflected against the Jewish race. She advised that RUBY told her that he went to the Post Office in downtown Dallas and looked at the box, which box number appears in the advertisement. Ke told her that the box was full of mail. According to Mrs. GRANT, after he told her this, he made the statement, "I bet V/eismann is a Commtinist", or words to that effect, Mrs. GRANT advised that she personally "had a crush on President Kennedy" . She stated that she and her brother both had a great admiration for President KENNEDY and felt he was a wonderful President. She said that JACK RUBY is not greatly interested in political affairs as a rule, but he would fuss at her if she did not pay, her poll tax, since he felt it was a patriotic thing to do. (She informed that early Thursday morning, November 21, 1963, JACK RUBY, as was his custom, placed advertisements in both Dallas papers concerning the entertainment to be offered at the Carousel and Vegas Night Clubs, Dallas, Texas, which clubs he has an interest in.^ She advised that after President KENNEDY was assassinated on November 22, I963, he called the newspapers to change the advertisements to show that the clubs would be closed J'riday, Saturday, and Sxonday. November 22, 23, and 24, 1963y (She said that DON SAFFERN (PHJ , a newspaper reporter for the Dallas "Tices Herald", called him and wanted to kriow if he was sure Eva Grant Exhibit 1 Grant Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 10 DL 44-1639 JBP,GCT:mam 3 . he was not going to qserate those clubs on any of those three days. He pointed out that some of the other clubs apparently were not going to be closed for even one night. \Vhen RUBY heard that the other clubs were not going to be closed, he became quite upset and asked DON how anyone v/ith any kind of conscience could dance and have a good time after the President had been killed. He ended up by telling DON that he did_not care what anyone ^else did, that he was going to close for '' - ' those three daysJ (Mrs. GRjVNT displayed a page from the Dallas "Morning News", dated Saturday, November 23, 1963, in Section 1, Page 19, containing a one-column ad, approximately four inches in length, stating tlae Carousel Club on Main Street, Dallas, would be closed "Friday, Saturday, and Sunday".; (^Mrs. GRANT recalled that on the day of the President's assassination, November 22, 1963, JACK RUBY telephoned her at least eight times and made three personal visits to her apartment.) She said that he was most upset over the assassination of the President and described OSWALD as a "creep" and said, "He has no class." She said that the phrase "He has no class" was a phrase which RUBY used to indicate his complete dislike for a person, Mrs. GRANT informed that her father passed away several years ago. She said that on Friday when JACK RUBY was in her ap)artment they had discussed both the death of her father and the assassination of President KENNEDY. She advised both she and her brother, JACK, stated that they were more upset over the "assassination of President KENNEDY than they were over the death of their own father. She pointed Exhibit 1 Eva Grant Grant Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 11 — DL 44-1639 JBP,GCT:mam 4 out that whon their father died, JACK RUBY seemed v/ell composed and displayed very little outward emotion. She said, however, that on Friday afternoon, November 22, 1963, following the President's assassination, he was terribly upset. She also pointed out that on Saturday morning, when JACK kJBY was at her apartment, he cried very noticeably about the President's assassination. fShe stated that he discussed sending flowers to the place near the spot where the President was assassinated, and she feels sure that he did have flowers delivered to that spoty (^Mrs. GRiVNT informed that JACK RUBY was in her "N, apartment on November 22, 1963, from approximately 5:30 PM until approximately 7:15 PM, and then he dressed and went ^^-^ to the synagogue for prayer.") She stated that on Saturday morning he told her that he "bummed around with" a person whose first name is LARRY, an employee of the Carousel Club, all<. night Friday night. On Saturday morning he and LARRY drove out to a point on the North Central Expressway in Dallas, Texas, where there is a large billboard sign to the effect "Impeach Earl V/arren" or some similar ph:.'aseology. He advised that he had shown LAPvRY how to take the picture, and LAPv.RY had taken the picture of this sign. In connection with this sign, she stated that it has been situated there for some period of time, and that it has constantly bothered and annoyed RUBY. She stated that he did not like the sign and on numerous occasions had mentioned the sign to her. Mrs. GRANT informed that on Saturday, November 23, 1963, RUBY called STANLEY KAUFMAN, a Dallas attorney, and Eva Grant Exhibit 1 Grant Exhibit Xo. 1 — Continued 12 DL 44-1639 JBP,GCT:mam 5 discussed with KAUFMAN the sign and the advertisement in the newspaper, as well as the assassination of President KENNEDY by OSWALD. In the conversation with KAUFMAN, he told KAUFMAN that "I don't know v;hy I want to connect that sign and the mail box with Oswald, but I do." Also in the course of conversation, he explained to KAUFMAN that he had taken a picture of the sign and had gone and physically observed the mail box which was listed in the advertisement mentioned above. Mrs. GRANT related that after RUBY made the telephone call to Attorney STANLEY KAUFK\N, he left her apartment and did not return thereto until approximately 4:00 PM, Saturday, November 23, I963. She advised he remained at her apartment from about 4:00 PM to around 8:00 PM, November 23, 1963, when he again left in his automobile. She advised she did not hear from P.UBY again until approximately 10:20 PM, at which time she received a telephone call from RUBY, stating that among other tjiings he was going to Radio Station KLIF in Dallas, Texas. (She stated that from remarks made by RUBY during the 10:20 PM telephone conversation that she gained the impression RUBY had been at his residence, 223 S. Ewing (Apartment 207), Dallas, Texas, since a short time after leaving her place around 8:00 PM the same date^ /At 11:30 PM, that same night, he called and told her he had been at Radio Station KLIF where he had talked with HENRY WADE, District Attorney, Dallas County, Texas, and RUSS KNIGHT, of Radio Station KLIF, Dallas, Texas.') (Mrs. GRANT stated that she next heard from her brother, JACK RUBY, about 12:40 AM, Sunday, November 24, I963 Eva Grant Exhibit 1 Grant Exhibit No. 1 — Continued *4-731 O— 64— vol. XX 3 13 DL 44-1639 JBP,GCT:raam 6 at which time he called her by telephone .") (She sai4 she ijained the impression that he was at his-^esidenco.J She volunteered this was the last time that she heard from her brother, JACK RUBY, prior to contacting him at the City Jail, Dallas, Sunday afternoon, November 24, 1963, following the shooting of OSWALD. On this last call, RUDY was worried about her, GRANT'S, health and told her "to go to bed", Mrs. GRANT stated that although her brother has used her address, 392 9 Rawlins Street, Dallas, for mailing purposes, he has never lived there. Mrs. GRANT said, to the best of her knov.-ledge, JACK RUBY has never been a "joiner" of organizations and does not belong to any group or organization of any kind and has no particular political philosophy. She described him as an "American" and a great admirer of President KENNEDY. She further advised she has never seen or heard anything which might indicate her brother, JACK RUBY, is connected or affiliated in any way \\fith any Communist or Cuban organization, She \>fas very emphatic in stating that she and JACK RUBY are very strongly opposed to any Communist organization or any group which they felt might be backed by Communists. Mrs. GRANT further stated that she has heard through a television or news media that an individual made a remark to the effect that OSWALD had been seen in the night club operated by JACK RUBY. She stated in most emphatic terms that she is absolutely positive that RUBY has never had any connection with OSWALD in any way. She admitted that she did not know every individual her brother knew, but she is still certain he did not know OSWALD. Mrs, GR/\NT said she was permitted to visit her brother, JACK RUBY, at the City Jail, Dallas, Texas, on the Eva Grant Exhibit 1 Grant Exhibit Xo. 1 — Continued 14 DL 44-1639 JGP,GCT:mam 2 afternoon of Sunday, November 24, 1963; however, she did not en/^age hiiu in any conversation as to why he shot OSWALD, nor did RUBY volunteer any information to her in this regard. Eva Grant Exhibit 1 Grant Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 15 FD^oa (n.«. i-**4») ' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION * 1 Qgi^ Novem'ber 30, I963 /Mrs. EVA L. GRANT, 3929 Rawlins, was telephonlcally contacted at the Vefeas Clul), 35O8 Oak Lawn, Dallas, Texas. She stated that she first came to Dallas, Texas In August of either 19^+2 or Av^2U3t of 19i+3y ^he advised that a buildlns was "being erected at I717 S. Ervay Lei8shortly after she arrived in Dallas; and she arranged to lease She informed that she started to operate the Singapore Club at that ress. Mrs. GRANT said that her brother, JACK RUBY, visited her in \ V Dallas a few times while he was still in the service of the United States. She stated that he' moved to Dallas permanently in either April or May, l^kQ. She was not certain of the month he arrived in Dallas, but she was reasonably certain that the year was 19^. /Mrs. GRANT stated that she^left Dallas, Texas in I9W and went to t&fe west, coast. She informed that she returned to Dallas two or three times after 19^; &QCL has made Dallas her home since April, 1959^ ^ ^^ \< Eva De'o-csition ix. No. 2 GILJ'JT' Dallas, Texas 5-2i;-oA ^i< <>r li/gQ/g^ -* Dallas, Texas FiU ^ PL 1A-16?Q by Spaciol As*nr JACK B. PEDEN/.1n Dato aictctod ll/^Q/^^ TkU deeomaBt eeataiaa Batthar raeeBBaadaltoas nor conolualen* o< th* FBI. It U th» prop«rty e( th« FBI and U loaoad to yottt mquiktti U «a4 iu •eaUaU «• aet !• b« dtoUlkul*d ouuld* ftnt agcaoy. Grant Exhibit No. 2 10 tDooj iH.». J-J.»9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 12/2/G3 Mrs. EVA GRANT, sister of JACK RUBY, 3929 Rawlins, telephonically contacted SA JACK B. PEDEN on December 2, 1963. She made reference to a previous conversation between SA PZDZN and herself. She talked in a rambling manner, and very fast, regarding her past. She stated that she was in Los Angeles in the fall of 1943 and referred to her mother's death in April 1944. The purpose of her call appeared to be to assure the Ascnt that she had been trying to cooperate with the FBI and she v/as afraid she had furnished previous information which might not be exactly correct as to the date. In her conversation she referred to tho fact that she had run a kitchen for a FRANKIE DOLAN in Los Angeles, California, and had at one time gone from door to door selling magazines. Mrs. GRAKT apparently wanted to assure the FBI that she ^ would be happy to cooperate in any way with the FBI. She was advised ^ that iX any information was desired from her she would be contacted .\ ^ ^-^ i Ex. No. 3 Eva GrLi.;iT, Deposition "~ Dallas, Texas 5-23-6/+ on 12/2/63 ,* nalTns, Texac. Pi,, j^ PL 44- 1f;r^9 by Sp.ciol Ag.nt JACK B. PEDEN - LAC Dato dictotod 12/2/63 Thta deeuacnt conlala* n«lth«r racemBandallons nor concluatons ol th* FBI. It la tha proparty ol tha FBI asd la loanad to yoir a«aaer; 11 aa4 lla eoBloBla or* •ot la ba dlaUlbutad outalda your ogancy. Grant Exhibit No. 3 17 roooi (R.».»o.i9) FfcOERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1/2/5U Dato tele- EVA GRANT, sister of JACK L„ RUBY, advised that she was previously married to one MAGID and T^v./N'ni-o^n V GRAV.NOVSKY, S'"J;"ried on oJ Ib^u? August 2l' 1936, to FRANK Calxfornia. She FRANK GRANT, at San Francisco, also said known she as was divorced from GRANT some five years la.er m Los California, her attorney being one SANFORD. Angeles, She said she had heard a rumor seven or eight years ago from an unrecalled source that FRANK GRANT had died used the name GRAKT. FRANK had a sister named PEARL who also of her. Pt-ARL This woman was single when EVA last heard store such worked as a buyer of purses for some Los Angelessister named as "Burt's" or "Butler Brothers". (JRANK had a ^; SOLOMON in Los AngelesJ FRANK GRANT worked around V ROSE EVA GRANT Hollywood Studios and was a-member of ITASE Union. -j union. She stated she did not know the full name of this ^ for FRANK GRANT. ^ .^ ; professed to be unable to supply a street address A r-^^- ,4 ?^ / -J>^/- <^ NO. _ /-/ NAME .-^<^- /f^^^iz/ai NAME ^"v. ,-^Zi^^ Hourj . Hours -/^^ Rtte -Z./.^ Am>. °""* WHAT ,""E *«£ rou OOlNOn *J5" WHAT Ate TOU DOiNO? ISIOP ^^2~^tIS~lsjo?j .-rT"^ 4^ j Siji' "TTTTT ISICP yrr / . '/^.^^i^^^c, JSVIST /-^^ Graves Exhibit No. 1 |s7.».;i ' -^ isiop] rttj tfid floury Cut '^ U S A. NO.. ^y .DATE ^'/y-ti^j^ NO._^Jfl_ DATE /v'^-^ NAME .o NAME .-'":^ Hnun ^i /..-iS- ,>m>. WHAT All YOU DOINOl tttxt WHAT AU rOU OOJNS? JTOPJ SUjil , %i^^ G^^^ ^ U.^.'<'WUl. NO .^^ OATH f-.^^-^,^. NAME ..--':^^, (f.,.'/...' /l-^- H.iiir, /2'?, V^B,*. 1,^^ Am't Hours 40 Rita 1-^^. Ain't S75f: .k^^ytiij,a^, '/j:^..^^.^^^ ?^^^ c5 575S FD-302 (R.V. 3-3.59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ^- Date 11/25/63 L. C. GRAVES, Detective, Homicide Bureau, Dallas Police Department, advised ho was assigned to escort LEE EARVEY OSWALD out of the Dallas City Jail into a waiting armored car on the morning of November 2A 1963. At approximately 11:15 AM, GRAVES advised he and Officer JA^^IES LEAVELLE left the jail, office located in the basement of Dallas City Hall. He advised LEAVELLE was handcuffed to OSWALD by his left wrist to OSWALD'S right wrist. GRAVES advised ho was on the left side of OSWALD and was holding him with the right arm. He stated at approximately 11:20, they were leaving tho jail office entrance in the basement when JACK RUBY fired a pistol at , OSWALD. GRAVES stated h© immediately grabbed RUBY's wrist with his left hand and seized the weapon with his right hand. He stated h© was able to disarm RLBY, who was then seized by several officers. GRAVES stated h© kept this weapon in his possession until such time ha turned it over to Captain WILL FRITZ, immediate superior of the Homicide Bureau of the Dallas Police Department GRAVES,L.C. Deposition EX.NO.5003-A Dallas 3-24-04 11/24/6^ ^ Dallas, Texas c:i^ if PL 44-1639 on ^^ by Spociol Ag,-. 3 KENNETH R. ALBERI^fe RICHARD T. B MJMm.^ 11/24/63 U t^;^^-p.rty of Ih. FBI and U loan.d to Thl. ocj2><^^ yZ-'"t.<-,rue:-ey<>^ The Socialist Call ' . ~ ' \< ^ 303 Fourth Ave. ' • . , New York 10, N. Y. ^- Enclosed please find ( J3.00 for one year'i lubocription) for a subscription to the Socialist Call. W want more I infonnation about the Socialist Party. I want to join the Sodalisl Party. Name. A.'^Z^'.. ..^.^. l^ /^ . // cix^../^(?Af. UJo/i J-A l C ,• .-.^^ I. _..:„„.. , ._ Geay Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 26 Uadt ia U.a.A. REPAIR TAG "..18374 Greener Exhibit 2 r:i?, NSW vcrvic t:: ^^ The New York Times, Friday, November 29, 1963 GUNSMITH ATTACHED SIGHT FOR MAN NAMED OSWALD By John Herbers Special to The New York Times Dallas, Nov. 23 —A gunsmith from Irving, Tex., said today he mounted a telescopic sight on a gun for a man named Oswald about a month ago. The gunsmith. Dial D. Ryder, said he could not remember what the gun looked like, nor could he remember the customer. Mr. Ryder found a receipt showing that he had mounted and adjusted a sight on a gun for a customer named Oswald. There was no date on the receipt, he said, but the work was done about a month ago. The customer paid $4.50 for drilling and $1.50 for boresighting the weapon. Ordered Gun From Chicago Lee H. Oswald, accused assassin of President Kennedy ordered a 3.5-mm Italian carbine from a mail-order house in Chicago last March. It was equipped with a telescopic sight at the time of the assassination. "Many people have this kind of work done," Mr. Ryder said. He said he believed a close examination of the Oswald weapon would show that he had not done the work. The police and agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation refused to disclose information about another gun Oswald was supposed to have used to kill Patrolman J. D. Tippitt when the oflBcer stopped Oswald following the assassination. That weapon, a .38-caliber pistol, has been turned over to the F.B.I, with other evidence in the case. It was reported that Oswald bought the pistol about two months ago and that the police have traced the point of its purchase. Meanwhile, it appeared that Oswald's employment in a building along the parade route that President Kennedy would travel was happenstance. Statements by persons familiar with the circumstances indicated that Oswald had no way of knowing when he took the job at the Texas School Book Depository that it would provide a vantage point for assassinating the President. GRBENiai EixHiBiT No. 2 —Continued t4-731 O— 64— vol. XX 4 29 Oswald returned to Dallas early in October after a mysterious trip to Mexico and began looking for work, according to persons who saw him daily at that time. It had been announced here ono Sept. 28 that President Kennedy would visit Dallas, but no parade route was disclosed. The parade route was not decided on until shortly before the President's arrival and it was not published until the morning of his death. While Oswald was looking for work his Russian-born wife and child lived with Mrs. Michael R. Paine, a friend, in Irving, a small town near Dallas. Wesley Randle, a teen-age neighbor of Mrs. Paine, said he heard that Oswald was looking for a job and told Mrs. Paine that he knew of one at the Texas School Book Depository. Mrs. Paine called about the job and on Oct. 14 Oswald went in and made appli- cation. He was accepted and started work the next day, Oct. 15, as a stock clerk at $1.25 an hour. Mrs. Paine said when Oswald got the job he had just received his last unemploy- ment check and his wife was expecting the arrival of their second child. He telephoned from Dallas, Mrs. Paine said, and announced "Hooray, I've got a job." Mrs. Paine said that the siwrts shop where Mr. Ryder, the gunsmith, works is about three miles from her home. She did not recall Oswald's making a trip to the shop. Mrs. Paine said today that although Oswald was "antireliglous." his wife Marina had had their daughter, June Lee, baptized when she was about 1 year old. Mrs. Paine said she thought this was done at tlie St. Seraphin Eastern Orthodox Church in Dallas. The other Oswald daughter is only a month old and has not been baptized yet, Mrs. Paine said. Mrs. Oswald and her daughters were still kept from the public by the Secret Service today. Mrs. Paine sent her a message through the police that Russian- speaking women from Texas, New Jersey, Kansas and Ohio had been trying to reach her to offer to take her and her daughters into their homes. Mrs. Oswald speaks no English. Greener Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 30 Greener Exhibit Xo. 3 AssMSin's Rin.* Greener Exhibit k J Greener Exhibit No. 4 31 Gregory Exhibit 1 BODY DIAGRAM Front Positior. of vounds on body of Gov. Connally, suffered 11-22-63, as deteralned by __ cons-ultation with attending physicians, Drs. Gregory, Shires and Shaw, Professors of Surgery, Southwestern Medical School, Dallas, Tex. M^^^^ ](-^/ Gregory Exhibit No. 1 32 Gregory Exhibit 1 BODY DIAGRAM Left Right DIAGR-'-M #2 Probable path and angle of projectile passing through Gov. Connally's body when wounded on 11-22-63, as detennined by consultation with Dr. Shaw, Professor of Surgery, Southwestern Medical School, Dallas, Tex. Gregory Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 33 Gregory Exhibit 1 BODY DIAGR/. Back P.oucii dia::rai: of wounds suffered "by Gov. Connally on 11-22-63, Used "by Drs. Crc^iory, Giircs and Snaw to deteraine exact location of wounds as shown in Diagram 4^-- Gregory Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 34 3c: OJ Gregory Exhibit 1 BODY DIAGRAyi' Right Roush diasraa utilized by Dr» Shaw, indicating probable path and angle of projectile Gregory Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 35 1 Gi«goiy Exhibit DIAGRAM #5 Rough sketch of approximate position of Gov. Connally when wounded on 11-22-63. Blue line indicates path of projectile through the "body as indicated by examina- tion of wounds. This is an off-hand sketch and not intended to be used as final authority on the specific position of the body when wovinded. Gregory Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 36 . FD.302 (R.».3-j-4») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ^ok,'-;c> n.>. 11/25/63 JACK RUBY was advised he did not have to make a statcnent; hu.»ho had a right to talk with a lawyer before nalcing any statcnicnf, 2d that any statement he made could be uc&d against hin 4,n a court o2'\ -w. RUBY stated he was born March 25, 1911, at Chicaso, Illinois, ^ nd attended the second year of high school but did not complete that j Dar of school. He presently resides at Apt. 207, 223 South Ev/inj;, '' v^- alias, Texas. He operates the Carousol Club at 1312y Conuncrce and ;:? ^ > , ho Vegas Club, 3508 Oak Lawn in Dallas, Texas. His name at birth was v ,r- "^ .ACX RUBENSTEIN but he had his name legally chrJnged to JACK RUBY at i^>(^) ^\: alias, Texas, in 1948 or 1949, Ho has also used the narae JACK LEON c^ ;C ':;... ^ [ f. -I. RUBY related that he v/as born on the West Side area of '^ ? hicafjo r.".-- grew up at unrecalled addresses on llaxv/ell and Holstead /^ J ''^ trcotr.l.i Chicago. As soon as he v/as large enough, he starto'i ^ ^ orliinj airound rodeos and sporting events, selling refreshments. He -', ^^ Iso sold banners at conventions, and scalped tickets for various '^ *** rtin:^ events. Sometime in about 1933 or 1934, he went to C ^ aiiforz.ia where he sold tip sheets at the race tracks on the ;j V . est Coast. He lived in San Francisco most of the time and also -^ \ old subscriptions to the Hearst newspapers. For a short time in >^ ^ 936 he went into business with SAM GORDON who is nov/ a restaurant ^J^ wner in Sacramento, California. He and GORDON bought small turtles, ainted their backs, and sold them at the fair in Pomona, California, n about 1937, he returned to Chicago, Illinois, and contacted a riendj LEON COOK, an attorney, who had organized a Scrap Iron and unk Handlers Union, A. F. of L. RUBY became Secretary and Treasurer f this Local at Chicago in 1937 and v/orked at this job until either he last month of 1939 or January, 1940, when LEON COOK v/as killed uring an argument at a -union meeting. As he v/as an official of the nion, he v/as held in jail overnight for questioning but v,'r;3 never . harged with any crime in connection with the shooting of LEON CCOK. nan na:;:ed JIM MARTIN was tho person who shot LEON COOK and MAP.TIN as convic'Js'd of this shooting. After the death of LEON COOK, RUBY uit his jo'b v/ith the 1$cra.p Iron and Junk Handlers Union. Since he ad no middle name, ho has frequently since the death of his friend -EON COOK, used the name LEON as his middle name. Early in 1940, e traveled throughout the Northeastern part of the United, States, articular ly in Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts, and {l^e\/ aapshire, placing punchboards at manxif acturing plants throughout hat area. The punchboards gave prizes of candy, with the big prize . 11/24/63 Dallas, Texas „ DL 44-1639 l>« o» Filo » ^f^ ^ . , C. RAYHALL:vm 11/24/63 >y Spociol Agent . , , : Data dictated rhia 4ocum*at oontatn* neither r«e«mis«ndatlonjt: nor eonclu(t^n> ol the Carousel Club at 13123- Commerce, and the Vegas Club, 3508 ^ 'o\ ,;)' Oak Lawn, in Dallas, Texas. His name at birth was JACK RUBEN- -v: N STEIN, but he had his name legally changed to JACK RUBY at '-"/:^ Dallas, Texas, in 19^8 or 19^9. He has also used the name C ,/\ JACK LEON RUBY, He has lived in Dallas since 19^7, living /^ \ most of the time in Chicago, Illinois, before that time. ^ j On Friday, November 22, 1963^ after he heard that ^j ^'^- President KENNEDY had been assassinated, he placed signs ^ o ^ • on the doors of both of his clubs, that because of the T death of the President, the clubs would be closed. He had ^ ^ not planned on opening them again until after the President's s^ funeral, because he was ashamed that anyone would v;ant to • , ). , participate in dancing or any entertainment after the assassi- V nation. On Friday night, he went to his church. Congregation Shearith Israel Synagogue, for prayer, and remembered that Rabbi SILVERMAN told those present that this tragic event should make us all better people. He later went to a deli- catessen and had some sandwiches made up, and drove dovmtovm and called Detective SIMS at the Homicide and Robbery Bureau at the Police Department, to see if anyone there v;anted the sandwiches. Mr. SIMS told him they had all eaten, and the sandwiches were not needed. RUBY explained that he has operated night clubs in Dallas since 19^7, and during that ' time has become personally acquainted with many members of the Dallas Police Department. The officers 'have been very fair with him, and not one has ever put his hand out for even one dime. He knew that the police officers were working very hard, and he Just wanted to do something for them, so he thought he could help them by getting them some food. After he talked with Detective SIMS, he decided to call Radio Station KLIP In Dallas, to see If anyone there wanted _i;x.No.2 H/lLL, C. Ray Deposition ^ Dallas, Texas 5-20-64 . . 11/25/63 Spociol Agont „, — ^ Dallas, Texas C RAY HALL/jt p.. ^ D„,, ji^,^,,j DL 44-1639 11/25/63 ; docuaVot contains ^./-t"«c rsoooiqandallons nor conciu^tona of th« TBI. It i« tho proparty o< tha TBI ii9. aad ia loanad to VT.sfancyi it and Ita p^^.tanta ^ra not to ba dkatr^bijlad outHlda your ogancy. < ,< - Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 2 41 . DL 44-1639 2 the sandwiches. He could not get anyone to ansv/er the phone, so he walked over to the Police Department to find someone that could give him the phone number in the room where the broadcasts were being made at KLIF. VH^ile in a hallway at the Police Department, he saw the Officers escorting OSWALD, the man who killed President KEITI-IEDY, down the hall to an assembly room. He had never seen OSV/ALD be- fore, and did not know him. He noticed that OSV/ALD had a black eye, and his face was scratched, and heard OSV/ALD r.;v,*nble something as he passed by him. OSWALD v;as in the assembly room for a few moments, then was brought back dovm the hall and taken upstairs. He later returned home, v;here he watched television broadcasts about President KENNEDY and the assassination, and read the newspaper articles about it. The following morning, he drove down to the spot where President KENNEDY was killed, and spent about an hour there, talking for some time with Police Officer CHANEY, who v/as on duty there. After that, he returned home where he read nev;s- papers and watched television. Vlhen he was alone, he cried a great deal, because President KENNEDY was his idol, and he was grieved that this nut OSWALD did a thing that brought such grief to the people of Dallas and people all over the world On Saturday night, November 23, 1963, he called a friend, TOM 0' GRADY, whov^^as formerly a member of the Dallas Police Department, and talked with him about President KENNEDY'S death, but he did not discuss with 0' GRADY anything about shooting OSWALD, because such 'a thought' had not occurred to hira at that time. RUBY declined to give a detailed account of his activities, or any other names of persons he had been in contact with during the past few days. He was also upset over an advertisement by one BERNARD V/EISSMAN in the Dallas Morning News newspaper of November 22, I963, criticizing President KENNEDY. RUBY said he was proud of the fact that he v;as a Jew, and was ashamed that anyone named WEISSMAN would criticize the President. RUBY said that many grievances built up, apparently, until he reached the point of insanity. He read in the nev;s- paper about OSWALD having a trial, and he thought that President KENNEDY'S wife would have to return to Dallas for the trial Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 42 DL 44-1639 3 and he did not think she should have to undergo that ordeal. He recalled that not too long ago an officer of the Dallas Police Department was killed by a hotel man, and the hotel man beat the deal and was never even sentenced for the killing. Because of this, he was afraid that if OSV/ALD v;ere tried in court, he might be turned loose. As he v/alked do;\'n the stree'bs, he noticed that people v;ere going about their regular activities, and at night they were in clubs dancing and having a good time, apparently not in mourning or grieving continuously as he had. He felt that the civic leaders of Dallas were very sincere in their sorrow, but v.'ere helpless to show how much they were grieving. He also knew that the officers of the Dallas Police Department were he:. less to do anything to OSWALD for killing President KENI\EDY. He said he saw Attorney General BOBBY KENNEDY on television, and thought how much he loved his brother, the President, and how much BOBBY KENNEDY would like to do something to OSWALD, but couldn't do anything to OSWALD. He read newspaper articles about the President's children, and he thought of the sorrow that had been brought to them. He said he was proud of the way the City of Dallas had handled racial problems, and he thought it was the greatest city in the world, so he wanted to be something, better than anyone else. RUBY said he thought about these things, and had become very emotional. On Sunday morning, November 24, 1963, he left his apartment at about 10:00 a.m. and drove his car do;^mtown to a parking lot across the street north of the Western Union Office, at the corner of Main Street and North Central Expressway. Before he left home, he put his revolver in his right coat pocket. He had bought this revolver, a Smith and Wesson .38 special caliber hammerless revolver, two or three years ago, at Ray's Hardv/are on Single- ton Avenue, in Dallas, Texas. After parking his car, he V7ent to the Western Union Office, and sent a $25.00 money order to an employee, KAREN BENNETT, at Ft. V/orth, Texas, so that she could go by the Western Union Office there and pick the money up, as she had requested nim to do. KAREN BENNETT lives In Ft. Worth. , Sometime after sending the telegram, he entered the basecient of the building where the Police Department in Dallas is located, entering from the Main Street side. RUBY said he did not wish to say how he got into the '^ questions could be used against him in a court of law. ~ '^ C" JACK L. RUBY then furnished the following information: On the night of Wednesday, November 20, 1953, he was at '^ his club, the Carousel Club, in Dallas, Texas. He thinks he closed /i . the club at about 2:00 AM on November 21, 195 3. One of his dancers,^ ^fy called "LITTLE LYNN", drank some champagne before closing, and when /^ -V she started home she got sick and passed out at Nichols Brothers / parking garage near his club. He thinks this occurred after ? -^ ; 2:00 AM on November 21, 196 3, but it could have been after ^ r^ 2:00 AM on November 20, 1963. He went over to see about her, 7^ and tried to get her to go to a hospital, but she refused to go. nA ;v\ He remained with her, trying to take care of her, until 4:00 AM , or 5:00 AM and then went home, so far as he can now recall. After , he got home, he went to bed and went to sleep. \r At about 10:30 AM or 11:00 AM on November 21, 1953, he received a telephone call at home from a girl named TRAMMELL, whose first name may be CONNIE, or something similar. He met this girl at the Carousel Club about ^ight months previously, and since meeting her she has called him on the telephone several times. The TRAI-^MELL girl lives in an apartment on either Gaston Avenue or • Live Oak Street in Dallas, When she called him on November 21, 1953, she told him that she had to get a job anIDY, called and told him that DON SAFRAN , of the Dallas Times .Herald, had called and wanted to get in touch with him. RUBY then called SAFRAN, who told RUBY that the Cabana and the Century Room were going to close and he did not know what ABE and BARNEY WEINSTEIN were going to do. _, RUBY said he told SAFRAN that he had already closed, without aSking what the other club owners were doing. SAFR.\N then asked RUBY about whether he would be open the next night, and RUBY said he did not know but would call him back. In a few minutes RUBY called SAFRAN back and told him he was going to be closed Saturday and Sunday nights, in addition to Friday night. At no time did RUBY go to Parkland Hospital on November 22, 1963. At about 7:00 PM or 8:00 PM, he left his sister's home and drove to his apartment to get dressed to go to Congregation Shearith Israel Synagogue, arriving there at about 10:00 PM or 10:30 PM. Before he left his apartment, he called Dr. COLEMAN JACOBSON to determine when the services began at his Synagogue. Following services, refreshments were served, but he did not feel like visiting with anyone. He stayed there for a short time, then drove toward downtown. He passed the Club BaliHai, noticing that it was open, and then drove by the Gay Life Club and saw that it was closed. He then drove on to Phil's Delicatessen and went in and talked to the owner, PHIL MILLER, He had read in the newspaper, or heard over the radio, that the police officers in the Homicide Bureau would be working overtime that night, so he ordered ten sandwiches and decided he would take them something to eat. Afrer he ordered the sandwiches, he called the Police Department Homicide Bureau and talked to Detective SIMS, telling him he was getting some sandwiches and would bring them "down 'for themi SIMS told 'him- they were'about th: ough'and -were -winding up things there and did -not want any- ^ thing to eat. After SIMS told him that -he decided he would take'the sandwiches to the employees at KLIF Radio Station, He -explained that he has -known -GORDON MC LENDON, owner of the radio -station, for a number of years, and he also knows RUSS KNIGHT, a disk jockey at the station. The employees at the Lf? ?33 Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 50 DL 44-1639 5 radio station have been good about giving him free plugs when he was trying to get started with his clubs, and he just wanted to do something for them because he knew they would be working late. He called GORDON MC LENDON's home, from Phil's Delicatessen, in order to get a number at the radio station so he could talk to the men on duty there. The daughter gave him a number, and he told her he was going to take some sandwiches to the radio station, but the daughter told him her mother had already sent some food up there. RUBY called the number he had gotten, but it was a wrong number. He picked up his sandwiches and discovered they had made only eight, when he ordered ten. He drank a soft drink, then left with his sandwiches and drove downtown, driving up Commerce Street and parking across from the City Hall. He decided to go to the Police Department to try to locate some newsmen from KLIF in order to obtain the unlisted phone number for the radio station. He went to the third ^loor of the Police Department, where the newsmen were gathered. As he got off the elevator, a policeman, who was not known to RUBY, asked him where he was going, or whom he wanted to see, RUBY told him he was looking for JOE DELONG, of KLIF, and the officer let him go on inside. He looked around for a while, without. seeing anyone from KLIF, and asked some unknown police officer to have JOE DELONG paged over the loud- speaker. DELONG did not answer the page, but while he was waiting he saw Captain FRITZ, of the Police Department, come out of his office with a person, OSWALD. RUBY heard a reporter tell FRITZ that this was not a good place, so FRITZ went back inside his office with OSWALD. In a minute, RUBY heard some newsmen say something about the basement, so he went down there to an assembly room where some newsmen were. When he saw OSWALD here, this was the first time that he had ever seen him. He had never heard the name of LEE HARVEY OSWALD before OSWALD'S arrest on November 22, 1963, by the Dallas Police Department. Any rumors that OSWALD was ever at any of RUBY'S clubs are wrong because RUBY had never seen LEE HARVEY OSWALD at any place before he saw him with Captain FRITZ at the Dallas Police Department the night of November 22, 1963. Any rumors that OSWALD was at the Carousel Club are absolutely untrue. RUBY has since heard reports that his master of ceremonies at the Carousel Club, BILL DEMAR, has reported that OSWALD was at the Carousel Club one night before President KENNEDY was assassinated. Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 51 DL »+»l-1639 6 RUBY said that this is absolutely false, because OSWALD was never there. RUBY has heard that ED SULLIVAN got in touch with BILL DEMAR and wanted DEMAR on SULLIVAN'S television program, but SULLIVAN did not believe DEMAR' s story and would not use him. RUBY further advised that, newspaper reports that RUBY and OSWALD were seen together in Waco, Texas, are complete falsehoods because he was never with OSWALD anywhere. Reports that OSWALD was going to ruby's apartment after President KENNEDY'S death are abso- lutely false, because OSWALD did not know RUBY, RUBY has never had any previous connection with OSWALD, and OSWALD could not have been going to RUBY's apartment « RUBY said that his employee, ANDY ARMSTRONG, knows more about RUBY's club and RUBY's morals than anyone else, and ANDY can tell anyone that OSWALD was never in the Carousel Club. When RUBY got to the assembly room, he went to the back of the room and stood on top of a table, so he could see and be out of the way. In a few minutes j HENRY WADE, the District Attorney, and Captain FRITZ came into the assembly room with OSWALD for an interview with the press, OSWALD mumbled or talked a little, but the newsmen could not hear him. RUBY did not hear OSWALD either. After a short time. Captain FRITZ took OSWALD away, HENRY WADE was then interviewed by the newsmen. RUBY said that he had his revolver in his right front trouser pocket all during this evening, November. 22 and 23, 195 3, except when he went to church services. He left the revolver in his car while he was in church but put it back in his right trouser pocket when he got back to his car. He said he c arried his gun because he had a lot of money on his person and "always carried his gun when he carried money. After the interview with WADE, RUBY left the assembly room and was out in the corridor, A newsman came by whom RUBY did not know, and RUBY asked him if he had seen JOE DELONG, of KLIF. This man said he had not seen DELONG, and RUBY mentioned that he had some sandwiches for KLIF. This man said he was from KBOX radio and asked RUBY what was the matter with them RUBY . said he told the man that next time maybe, but this time he had the sandwiches for KLIF. This man. from. KBOX then gave RUBY the unlisted phone number for KLIF, RUBY went around behind the counter in the basement offices of the Police Department and telephoned KLIF, talking to an employee named KEN, He told KEN he had some sandwiches but could not get in the entrance door to the radio station. At about that time, HENRY WADE walked f^ by, and RUBY was still talking to KEN so he asked KEN if he /7\ wairted- to talk to HENRY WADE. KEN said he did, so RUBY" called V Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 52 DL UU-1639 7 HENRY WADE and told WADE he was wanted on the telephone. to talked on the phone to KEN, then handed the phone back to ,s'ADE RUBY. RUBY talked to KEN again, and KEN told him it was great bf RUBY to help him get the interview with WADE, I RUBY said he then left the Police Department building, vent to his car and drove over to Radio Station KLIF. He got the sandwiches out of his car to take them upstairs, but the front door was locked. In about ten or fifteen minutes, RUSS \NIGHT came by and let him inside. They all went upstairs, and the employees on duty ate the sandwiches. RUBY left Radio Station KLIF at about 3:00 AM on November 23, 1963, and drove to t'r.Q. Dallas Times Herald newspaper building. He went inside and talked to an employee named PAT GADOSH and gave PAT a twist Doard, an exerciser. GADOSH is the person at the newspaper who takes ruby's ads for his clubs. He talked with GADOSH about the advertisement in the Dallas Morning News, by BERNARD WEISSMAN, that was critical of President KENNEDY. GADOSH told RUBY not to worry about the ad, Decause the Dallas Morning News was suffering enough for carrying such an ad. RUBY got his ad taken care of and drove toward home, V"^'While driving home, RUBY thought of the similarity '. between the BERNARD WEISSMAN advertisement and a sign he had seen which read, "Impeach EARL WARREN". He drove home and awakened GEORGE SENATOR and asked SENATOR to go with him. He called the Carousel Club and awakened his employee, LARRY, and asked LARRY if he knew how to operate a Polaroid camera, LARRY said he could operate the camera, so he told LARRY he would be down to pick up LARRY and the camera, RUBY and SENATOR then drove to the Carousel Club sometime about 4:00 or 5:00 AM on Jiovember 23, 195 3, and picked up LARRY and the camera. They drove to Central Expressway and Ross Avenue, where they found a sign, about 2 feet by 4 feet, on top of a Potter Steel Company sign, which read "Impeach EARL WARREN", and at the bottom of this sign was -"Box 1757, Beltham, Mass," They took some photographs of this sign, and RUBY then remembered that the BERNARD WEISSMAN ad had the address "Box 17 92, Dallas, Texas", so they drove to the Main Post Office in Dallas and looked at Post Office Box 1792, RUBY asked a man on duty at the post office for the name of the man who had Post Office Box L792, but the man told him he could not give RUBY the name of ^ the box holder. They left and went to the Southland Hotel !\ 7w Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 53 DL UH-1639 8 Coffee Shop, where RUBY talked for a few minutes with the owner, a taan believed to be named WEBB, RUBY said as a patriotic "American he was so upset and intense over the sign, and—the- an the return to Dallas he went via Chicago and that members of lis family joined him briefly at O'Hare Field, the Chicago lirport, RUBY said he could recall no other travel outside of )allas during 1963, He mentioned having been in New York, Joplin, Missouri; ?ulsa, Oklahoma, and Chicago in 1956 when he was attempting to promote a young Negro tap dancer and drummer named NELSON, also :nown as "LITTLE DADDY". He said this trip lasted several weeks. He related that he was in Hot Springs, Arkansas, in 956, as he recalls, having flown there to attend the races. He laid he believed he was in Little Rock during the same trip jriefly. He said he was in Las Vegas, Nevada, in 19 37 and does not recall having been there since that time. RUBY stated that no police officers accompanied him on :he trip to Hot Springs, mentioned above, and that he had never )een outside the City of Dallas with any Dallas law enforcement jfficers. He said he had never employed any Dallas policeman Ln any of his clubs, although he had employed "Special Officers", for the services of the latter, he paid the City of Dallas, and :he City in turn paid the "Special Officers" in question. He said ri Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 6 61 DL im-1639 I • 16 he had never given money or other things of value to officers of the Dallas Police Department except bottles of whiskey at Christmastime to some. He said he had also had a practice of admitting officers to his clubs without cover charge and having gxven "special prices" on drinks; for example, he would give officers beer for 40 cents a bottle, where his usual price was more. He said he had never asked any special favors from any police personnel. Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 3— Continued 62 , .;' • ' aL. // .. • ^-^-- h:^.. ,^^,-^ ".»,' '/ y. Uf',"--'! // '''''" U'^'-- Vi^-^-.'/', '-'.• ,>-»<'-., ^^ •-' c.,:^' - ^-::. ... W-"' >'"/^ /•/^ ^,... y^ /;-..;•; t 'T-'V /(k" ^..4' r,/ i 7'- 7 Hall (C. Ray) Exhibit No. 4 63 Fo-302 (Rov. 3-3-50) FED3RAL BUP.EAU OF INVESTlGATiC.Nl 1 nnto s/2n/; IIERT I-l^LL, 4112 Sun Valley, Dallas, Dallas I'lar.acjar of .\naorcd Motor Servico, Inc., 1800 Leonard, Dallas, v/as interviG%-/ed at his place of iiusinass. Ka said that E.'^.ROLD J. FLSI-iING is Operations Kanager and Corporate Counsel for that finr. and- has offices in Fort Worth, Tsxas. , said that at about 9:45 A.M. on t?43 ir.orning of I-1\LL Ncvarf.her 24,1S63 ha v/as called from the Sunday School cla:,3 , he v;as teaching to ta>:a a telephone call from FL2:'lING. FL2:--IKG told him that Assistant Cliief of Police C£L\RL2S 3.-i.TCrI2L0R had requested the Arrr.ored Motor Service to furnish an armored rruck. FLEMING asked HALL to meet him at their Dallas office and to call tV70 ether employees to meet with them there. HALL said he does not nov/ recall whether FLS^-IING said he had received the call from Chief BAT'CZ3L0R, or v/nether Chief 3A"CHEL0R called TOM i-:?,i;TIK President of the ccm.pany, who in , turn called FLEI-ilNG. Ee also said he cannot now recall %^-iether FLE:-1ING told him the reason 'che trucic i.'as r.eaa^c. at ^he t^me the call \-7Bi3 made. EALL said ha ir.r:.ed lately called DCN.-.LD GGIiJ Assistant , 3 Vault Kanager, and ED DIETRICH, Assistant Crev/ Chief, and as'.ced * them to meet him at the Dallas office of the company. He does \i not recall whether ha e:-:plained the reason for. this request at w, •chat tiiae. r o* HALL said his v/ife v/as also teaching Sunday School at the tirr.e, and before leaving the church 'ne merely told her he had to go to work and would meet her at home later. FLZi-uING GOIN DIETRICH and H.\LL then raet at the , , Dallas office of the firm, arriving at various times frc--a about 10s 15 -A. 14. to 10:30 A.M. There vras a brief discussion as to v/nich truck to use HALL said FLEI'IING told them the larger . armored truck would be used to transport LEE K.ARVSY GSXvALD fromi City Hall to the County Court House. This truck is described as a two-ton Chevrolet, tv70 compartment, over-the-road truck. S/24/S4 ^ Dallas. Texas _., ., DL 44-1S39 Vr_ ^J_-_23 X'iGGD and -^ ^— t . I . I . . ;" . 1 ^ /- : JC.O ulC.CtCCi ' '-/ ^ Hall (Makvin) Exhibit No. 1 64 DL 44-1659 It is a large truclc with "t;wo bunks in it. FLEI-IING explained that the larger truck v/as needed because of the large nujciber of people it would be transporting, including OSV??,.LD and a number of police officers. RfvLL Stated he v/as familiar with the baser.-.ent at City Hall and knev; that the truck v;as too large to get into the entrance on the ^lain Street side of City Eall so it v/as , agreed to back the truck into the entrance on the Corrmerce Street side. The four of them left their Dallas office at about 10:45 \.M. HALL drove the larger truck, with FLK-ilWG riding in the passenger side. GO^N and DIETRICI-I went in an acco.v._->any- ing sraaller armored truck, v/ith GOIN driving. They left their parking lot located ne:rt to the building, on Flora Street, proceeding v/est on Flora Street to Leonard south on Leonard to Ross Avenue west en Ross to , , Pearl, south on Pearl to Kain Street, west on l-lain Street to Earv/ood,south on Iiar^\rood to Conmierca and then east on COiri-.i.erce , to the Commerce Street entrance to the City Hall Garage. HALL said the entrance to the garage was too sr^all for their truck to enter, so he backed into the garage, leaving the rear end of the truck inside the garage, and the cab protruding outside. He said the truclv almost completely blocked the entrance to the garage. COIN and DIETRICH, in the smaller armored truck, parked ir.-aediately adjacent to the garage entrance on the north side of Commerce Street Just east of the , , garage entrance. KALL estimated that they parked in the garage entrance at about lljOO A.M. on November 24, 1S63 . FLEI-IING got out of the passenger side of the truck and entered the garage to talk v/ith Chief BATCHELOR and other police officials. Ei^JLL was not told when OSWALD was to be placed in the truck or any other arrange- ments which had been planned for his transportation at that tiirie. Hall (Marvin) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 65 . y , DL 44-1639 H?_LL Sciid that st no time was he tcld that the truck v;oi::.1g ujec as a Cccoy, and another autc:T;Cbile used for ths jOvi 3.czxi.c!.l transpor-cation of OSWALD^ and hs dad not hear this re- port until at least two week^ after the ehootinc- of OSV'i?.ZJD. Shortly after he parked the truck ir. the garage er.trar.ce, a police of fleer, whose ider.tity Z^flL r.^ver knev/, got into the passenger side of the "cruckj ar.T.ec v/ith a shotgun. T:\.;l-: -T-oliceiin^n told ZZALL they \jz\i1q, 1>:;„vc thcj ga-„ge turn Iwf w ^ onto Cor:ut\erce Street, go in an easterly direction on Cc.T~.erca to Central Expreesv.'ay north on Central E>:prc5sway one block to , Main Stree'c and then proceed weet on 1-lain to the Court Zouee. , EALL said he recalls that ^IEI'IIIn'G and the patrclr.'ian with the shotgun v.'ere the only perscno to enter or leave 'cl.ie garagc-j through the Coriiimerce Street entrance while his truck was parked there. He also ;:aid he kept his motor running all the -time he was parked ther^,. 'Ze said the patrolman did no-c mention any specific time as to when OSWALD and his guard v/ould enter t?ie truck. Ai/Out twenty minutes after he parked ;;he truck in th^^ garage entrance he heard a shot v-^nd someone yelled thau G3V:ALD , had been shot, rie remained in place, howtsver until eomeone , ai:ked him to move his truck out of the garage entrance . By this time an ambulance had entered 'cclQ j>la.in Street side of the , g;=^rage to pick up OSWALD » EALL v/as unable to immediately drive the 'cruck from the garage because parked iromsdiately in front o: the truc}c wa^ a poiace car He yelled to the driver of uhe , police car to move it and \-fnc.^ this v/as done he pulled t:he , truck acrv")i.s the street "..here he paa'ked it on the south side of Ccmcierce Street until he %«7S3 told by Chief 3A"CHELG1\. th.£t f.ie , cruek would no longer be needed at v/hich time he z.r.d FLE;-rii?G , accom.panied by GOIl:? Si'nd DILvRICZ in the other truck, returned to their parking lot. 1-1\LL estim.ated that not ir.ore than two minutes could h:^ve elapsed from the tirae of the shooting until he actua— _. ^lled out of the garage entrance Hall (Marvin) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 60 liALL said he had iievcr met or Iviioxcn either LEE iLA?v.VEY :sv.'.-.: or JACK RlTiiY/ and that he did not see either of thorn on - s'.'-VoLTCesr 24, 19o3 y and does not recall having Gvcr seen either rl therr.. He eaid he did net enter in-co any discussions v/ith -"Y police; cfricials about 'cho arrangements , other than the i.n;;-cructions he received from the patrolman with the .-hotgun jno got into the tifud^ with hiin. Hall (Marvin) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 67 nwM («•». w-M) Q i FEDERAL BUREAU OF I" Garnett Halinark Exhibit 1 — n,>. 12-11-63 1 -^^ •- -^ GARNETT CLAUD HALLMARK, advised he is the manager ;P^.::i^v;,,|^ ; - ^ -: ^ :'*ii2'i.^ -^ of the Allright Parking, 701 Wilson Building, Dallas', .- Texas, telephone nlumber RI 8-5943. HALLMARK said he recalled an incident which had been referred to by THOMAS RAYMOND BROWN, when BROWN was interviewed by the FBI concerning some phone calls which were made by JACK RUBY on November 23, 1963, from Nichols Brothers Parking Garage at 1320 Commerce, Dallas, Texas. HALLMARK said he was at the above garage during the ,(« ''^ afternoon of November 23, 1963, and he recalled that at ^^ [ about 2:50 p.m., JACK RUBY drove into the garage in RUBY's f V 'J 1960 white Oldsmobile. He said RUBY ask^d permission to use the^^ /, telephone and said, "CLAUD, I am acting like a reporter." ^? ^j While dialing a number, RUBY asked, "Is the Colony Club going to be open today?" (November 23, 1963). HALLMARK said he replied, "I do not know." RUBY then said they would not ** have the nerve to open after they have seen his ad. ^ >V{ • HALLMARK said RUBY then got his number and in his :'^^^ conversation with some party, unknown to HALLMARK, RUBY said, "Hell, well my places the Carousel and Vegas will be closed." HALLMARK said RUBY dialed a second number and asked for a reporter whose name was "WES WISE." RUBY determined this- person was not in and remarked j "oh, this is Ken." Then RUBY related to KEN that his places would be closed and his conversation switched to some remarks concerning the trans- fer of OSWALD. m*. HALLMARK said he got the impression that OSWALD'S transfer wa^ to take place that afternoon, Saturday, November 23; 1963. He said that RUBY told KEN, "they have started strewing the flowers at the scene of the assassination »'* en 12-11-63 ,, Dallas, Texas '^ p,,^ ^ DL 44-1639 . ,,.Agent ARTHUR E. CARTER'^ ad y^' ipd _^ .,^ 12-11-63 . by Spsciol . |ij ,i,i « Dot* dictoted . _____—_- '^TM ThU doeamaat eoatolna aviiher taeommandatlona nor conohialoiii , oaloni el'th* TBI. It la Iha propartr ol tba FBI el'thJ'i'Bt. i «a4 la laonad la y«f phone and asked for change/^or. a $10.00 bill* HALLMARK saic^ RUBY walked East on Consqerce and returned about two minutes later and stood in front of the . "Tichols Bros, office at 1320 Commerce where he acted as li? le wanted to talk^ but did not say anything. JPlnally, he did say, "I'll see you Claud." then RUBY got Into the car and drove East on Coranerce, Mr. HALLMARK said this occurred It 3:05 p.m. and he was sure about the tine because he bad a schedule that would require him to leave at 3il5 p.m* to go to 1920 Elm. I HALLMARK said that during this time THO^IAS RAYMOND BROWN, his employee, was in and out of the office while RUBY was making his telephone calls. He said that Y\e believed BROWN went out for coffee while he and RUBY were talking and BROWN had to go in and put of the office to give customers their parking ticket, ' HALLMARK related that he had known JACK RUBY for over three years and has had many business dealings with bin, because customers In RUBY' s clubs parked in the Nichols Bros. Garage and for sometime RUBY had a contiract to pay the parking fees when his oust;oiqer8 used the packing facilities. HALLMAKI^ said he wQuld ponsider RUBY "rather a pre* occupied person, vho was very Intent." He said RUBY wae either !!£or or against you," lie produce^ a let;te;r wlilch be ^as received 'm :^:iM-MB^'^^^^ Hallmark Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 69 i o Garnett Halinark Exhibit 1 W' DL 44-X639 from RUBY since RUBY has been Incarcerated at Dallas, Texas, which he said the FBI might use for any purpose It might service In any Investigation they are conducttlng* . He requested that this letter be returned to him when the FBI completed the use of it. This letter is described as follows: It was postmarked 4:30 p.m., December 8, 19^^$ at Dallas, Texas, and addressed to "Claudb^^ % Allrigl^t Parking, 1320 Commerce, Dallas. Manager/' It contains the following note written on two pieces o£ blank white paper, approximately Ah6 inches -• "County Jail 12/7/63 ;' . "Dear Claude ir "I can just feel you are for me, and want yo^ .. ; , all to know that I think of you often. T^X% . Ben, that even though he is In bad shape physically, look Qt me I'm In good shApe^ but; what good is that going to do me now. "Say hello to Mac, and all the boys, "Sincerely - /s/ Jack Ruby" Mr. HALLMARK said he has not discussed (he telephone conversation with anyone except THOMAS BROWN, his employee, who was present when RUBY came in po use the phone on Noyeip^er 23, 5^ 9^ Hallmakk Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 70 L I, 44-1639 ]i63. He said he did not. know cf any possible connection r relationship between OSWAJw.D and RUBY and said RUBY td never mentioned the name "Oswald" to him at any time. Ji stated that RUBY never mentioned OSWALD'S name cen when he remarked to the person he called on the phone tiat it was terrible that the. President had been killed. He said he never saw RUBY mistreat anyone in ether of his clubs He said hf? had visited the Vegas c (,ub once or twice in late 1936 or early 1957 and had also l;en in the Carousel Club about fottr or five times since tjat time and he then went with friends or acquaintances no visited the club out of "curiosity". I Mr. HAL1,MARK said he did not know any of RUBY's .'- us apparently frieotly with the Master of Ceremonies, nc ^f;-^::-. at his clubs. He said the Master of Ceremonies lime was WAILY WESTON., He said he also knows one other otertainer by name and she is KATHY KAY, who came from ligland, HA1,LMARK said he feels sure RUBY was hard to iDrk for because he dejnanded perfection and was strict :i his operation of the clubs. He said he seriously hlieved that RITBY would never allow the entertainers D solicit dates in the clubs. He said RUBY once told him \i would not "mess" with thp. girls himself. Mr. HAIXMARK dvised he recalled sorife waittesse'^ whose identity he id not know were fired when they reported to work at r»e clubs vhile 'jinder the influence of alcohol and he l?ard from an u?^xecalled source that so.3«)2 of RUBY"s ensployees Lairaed RQBY beat th^m out of their pay. HALLMARK could not identify any of these persons f name. He advised he has witnessed RUBY when he called patron!/: I 1^ Cf{lo\ Hallmark Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 71 DL, A4"i639 dovm for ue.-Cng vw1l^,-?r ot r>oiar.S! language, but he never saw him fight or atXAc^ aryor'E. HALIMARR" safri tppl R'JbX h*id discussed the fact with h about a year ggo (fhat son«9 of >^,is fe^rx/lcyees who were fired might give him srrme troub.Ve-^ so ' hsd obtained a pistol, Mr. HALLMARK said h^ r^ei^^r «?nu» tiki's •rm, but RUBY had* told him if he ever needed s. g«.m he var v^'lcoir^ to use the gvm he had. HAT.-LMAR^ ev,«/Tvu*=d 5 f-bclD ot OSWALD which was nuade at New OrU.^Ti^s. Lo«'.lslg:>a. and tcrs xiumber 112723 and which was d^ted Atigust ^^ 196'^ and said he did not , .. know anyon^e resf'TribIii7j2, tb^. rho'LfH as ever havivig been in either of PJJBY's clubs. He j^atd of course since the assassltiatiort of, the P)f sJd^rit, te has seea this person on TV and in the newspaj/f-J:?, HALLMARK idevt r-ie6 "Bt^N" as BEN AUSTIN, the :» iTjanageTof the Nichols Garag'^ and "MAC" as MAC JONES a :i colored parWlng attendant £ibo\it 60 years elds who works at the Nichols Bros. Garag«=!;. ir is noted that the above names v;ere mentioned in the. fitter which Mr^ HALLMARK received frca J JACK RUBY and which W9s f.urriisL*?d the Dallas Office* lol C^io Hallmark Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 72 F.302 (R.v.3.3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION r>«t» December 3, 1963 L ROBERT LEONARD HANKAL, Floor Director, Production Xpartment, Radio and TV Station KRLD, Herald Square, Dallas, Dyxcs, rumlshed the following Information: Ke resides at '4233 Travis Street, Apartment 2l4, Dallas, Texas, home telephone number LA 8-143^ He was first assigned to handle the television coverage at -the City' Hall In Dallas, Texas, on November 23, 1963. His duties as rioor director are to insixre that the cameramen for the TV station are set up in good positions and that there are no ^ obstructions during filming. His memory of the events on '-^s l^ovember 23 and 24, I963, is hazy but as he recalled the jamera crew for KRLD included Cameraman GENE PASCZALEK, his assistant BEN MOLINA, and himself. They initially were set lip on the third floor near the Homicide Bureau and on Saturday afternoon, oransf erred to the basement of the police headquarters, where JAMES ENGLISH took over as cameraman. Mr. LEIGH WEBB Mias the director in charge and he gave the assignments. > r^ On November 24, I963, he was called and told to rc.vort to wprk at 7:00 a.m. He reported to Mr. WEBB who was located at the KRLD sound truck which was parked on Commerce Street outside of the police headquarters . As Identification he' had been furnished a letter written by yir.'- EDDIE BARKER, one of the executives at KRLD on the letterhead stationery of the station. This letter identified , him as a member of the camera crew. WEBB told him he should report to the basement where the camera was located and he entered the city hall through the Commerce Street entrance. As he passed the information desk in the lobby a police officer told him to be sure he had identification if- he were going to t.-.e basement. At that time he had the letter identifying him in his hand. He then took the elevator downstairs and left 'ohe elevator with the letter still in his. hand. As beet ho could recall he did not have to show the letter to a reserve police officer standing outside of the elevator and he therefore assumed that the officer had taken for granted that the paper in his hand was his lde;ntification. He then went to the camera which was located near the elevator bank in the baser:ent and assisted in moving the camera to the .T.ain bi-cement area. The camera was eventually placed on the floor of the garage with the lens protruding between tv.'o iron rails and facing directly X^—^'^g- hal.1 wn.v_j_ the police department on Novenber 24, 1963;. without showing .^ntiricatlon other than himself. He did rot feel that he li actually identified himself inasmuch as he was merely ;Trying a' letter in his hand and nobody actually asked to '.,c^ cl^q contents of the letter. 'He assuned, however, that he li bcar^ rv^cosnized as being a part of the i furr.ishsd the following ^matlon Ha is comnonly kj.ovm as "CATFISH" HANSEN. He resides i- l"i07 Moore Terrace, Arllr.gtcn., Texas, Ha has no residence phone. He Joined the Dallas Police Dspartment In 19^8 and has been a patroinan In ths Traffic Buraau since that tine. • • He first met JACK RUBY wh*n he was working in District #41 about 11-12 years ago. That district covers one of the roughest sections in Dallas and included in it was RUBY's Silver Spur Club. Ther« ars a. lot of tavern brawls in the district and as h« rsc*lls h« first saafc R03Y when he was assigned to ch-sck on a brawl at ths club. Hs also recalled that one night he we^it to RUBY's Club on a call and it was determined that an individual had bitten RUBY's finger so badly during a fight tliat part of it had to be amputated. He did not know th« identity of this individual. During the last four yaars or so he has socially visited RUBY'S Carousal Club but has never been there on an asslgnnent while on duty. H« Yaq K«v«r been to RUBY's Vegas Club. The only thing that ha knows about RUBY's backgrovmd is that he was raised in a sIuk area of either Chicago or New York City. RUBY told hln that he had to scrap for a living when he was a young boy biit he could recall nothing else concerning RIBY's background. During the last 8 years he has directed traffic at th« Intersection of Main and Akard Streets In dowr.town Dallas, Ks would see JACK RUBY a number of tl?!.e:a during th« w«ek, Just as he would see many other dowi^town buEln«£?snen. R^'BY was alv;ays friendly to hln and often chatted with him briefly on these occasions. He is not a social friend of RUBY and has never had any dealings cr conversations with him other than when he was on duty or the few times he visited RUBY's club. RTJEY was always nice to him on these occaslo2:is. K* described RUBY as being very i big hearted and has seen hlo give -monfty to needy people on \ the streets of Dsllas on a nonb'^r of occasions. He also ' has heard that RUBY has been v«ry liberal with some of the girls who work for him and when they wftre sick would send them flowers and money. Hs felt that RXJBY liked policemen Dallas, Texas 1/ 12A1/63 File /[( Dallas 44-1639 by Special Agent JOHN E. DALLMANiBL Date dictated 12A1/63 Thli doeunanl contains nclthsf r«commandatlons nor conclualons ol lh« FBI. II l« tho proporlr o« Iho TBI ond U loanod lo roat a«>H«y( tl SHD itk i-omknu or* not lo bo duitlboud eutaldo f otir a««neti i Hansen Exhibit No. 1 4-731 o— 64— vol. XX- 77 ^.^^ DL 44-1639 2 Ir. general and he was very surpriaed to learra that RUBY had placed his (HANSEN) R&iiie on the visitor's list at the county Jail. He considered R^JEY to be a thoroughly emotional Individual and recalled that oss ore occasion at the Silver Spur Club RUBY hit a aara who Kid* a derogatory remark concerning his ethiic baclzgyouTii. He also stated that EUBY v;*lb always respectful towards hla and always r*fftrrsd to him as HANSEN and not by his nidcname "CAIFISH." ^he orly favor that RTJBY ever did for him was to occasionally buy hiia a cup of coffee. He also r?;c.!iilad thait ok vlsltiz^ig thi regardless of whether or not they liked him. He knows v®ry little cosics.rr.ir.g RllBY's personal life and although he has hear-d nmovB that RUBY was a homosexual he never believed them. He oar.aot recall who he heard these ru5:ors from but he had n»v®r had any r^s.son to believe it hiKself . R^JBY str-^ick hira as belLig a v«?ry manly Individual A.rsd was particularly Imprassed by his good physical condition for a man of his age. He stated he knows -SJSORaE SES«ATOH who allegedly lived with RUBY at cne time but he had no personal knowledge of this. He first met SEJ-IATOR near the intersection of Akard and Main Streets while SENATOR was coKiducting business. A-&^ Hansen Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 78 DL 4i;-l639 3 he recallfld SENATOR drovs a Volksw'gsn truck and was in some t«7pe of novelty business. -ni'it Wis th« only knowledge he had of SENATOR and the or.ly plsce he h&s ever seen him. He has never wor-ksd for R^JBY although RUBY at one tine suggested thit h« Eight Ilk* to work as a bouncer at the Silver Spur Club. This w»3 i'ot «r: ur.usual request because of the rough neighborhood the club was in and the number of disturbance calls that were m'vde to tha club. He stated he told RUBY he could not work there and the main reason he turned RUBY down was bftcaus* h« krew so little concerning his background. He lcn;ows of r.o Dill^ c.^r.»:ot understand why RUBY would have his nime on the vislti:',.K; list at the county Jail unless it was because hs h«d k,r.CT.vn 'ilm for so long and s^w hlDi 30 often ir. the dov?rtowx: area. At this time, he roald think of nothing further oonoeming RUEY's person life^, background, or political convict ions He had r.aver hesrii of LJIE Fi.RT5"„* OSWALD prior vo the assassinatipn of Pres :i.*i.t I-rsrtrf'I'if^ . If OSWALD had had frequented the down.towi': ^.r*-?. h* felt he would possibly have recognized hii» from the rhotographa he has seen but he does not recall such an Individual. Ke knows of no connection betvfeen OSWALD and RL'BY. Hansen Exhibit No. 1 — Continued ^^^^2-^^^ Hansen Exhibit No. 2 80 AMUULANCE CALL f.sh Car No. /^ O ;- Kioni Person Oillii ivi,- y-'-^.T/yf^ . _ Time Callc, JLzilovsu Dispatched Code 5 Code 6 Code S 11 30^97211 Oxygen ,^^3^7^ 7 '7 £x. No, 5125 IIAIIDIN.M. Deposition- Dallas 3-31-64 Harrison Exhibit No. 5027 "T IL^JeMa ±J\ *^ i'^t?-' <^ J»JV Harrison Exhibit No. 5028 82 =0-302 (ROV.3-3-SS) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTiC iON ' // // \\ 0^ (/^ Data ^Gcerxier 6, 1953 ^<2ceri)er .' J Dato (1) VJILLIAM JOSEPH HARRISON, 9223 Donny Brook, Dallas, Texas, was advised he did not have to make any statement, any statement he made could be used against him in a court of law, he had a right to talk to an attorney, and of the identities of SAs EDMOND C. HARDIN and ROBERT J. WILKISON. HARRISON advised as follows: He is employed as Patrolman by the Dallas, Texas, Police Department, end is currently assigned as Detective in the Juvenile Division, Criminal Investigation Division, Police Headquarters. On November 2*+, 1953, he worked the 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. shift and was on duty in the .Juvenile Division, Third Floor of the Police Station, on a standby basis. About 11 a.m. he want to the locker room and on his return ' observed the other detectives in the Juvenile Division going to the basement. They told him to coma too. This was approximately 11 a.m. or shortly thereafter. Upon arrival in the basement the officers stood around in the corridor Voutside the jail office awaiting instructions. After a few minutes one of the police officers, whose name he does not recall, instructed them to have all the press and television representatives move to along the east wall area of the basement ramp. They did so. He doesn't know how many press and television representatives were in the basement, but there was quite a large. crowd. He didn't see anyone other than police officers, press or .television representatives in the basement area. \ He has known JACK RUBY as a Dallas night club operator for several years in connection with his employment .as a police officer, but never had any personal associations with RUBY. -^'-x i-' Prior to the time that LEE HARVEY OSWALD was brought dovm to the bscemcnt, HARRISON looked at the crowd in attendance but did not see anyone suspicious. He did not see JACK RUBY, He was stationed in the basement ramp area at least six or seven minutes prior to the time OSWALD was escorted into that area. There was an armored car at the Commerce Street entrance to the i basement ramp and there were two plain unmarked police cars inside the ramp which wore behind the armored car. TJTTTT 12/5/63 „, Dallas. Texas DL 44-1639 Pjl^ ^ bSpocicI Agont s ROBERT J, WILKISON and Dato dictctod ^2/6/63 EDMOND C, HARDIN ;bnm Tj document contain* nalther racommandatlons nor conclusions o( thEX,NO,5029 HARRISON Wm , J . DepOSltiOH , Vr aqancYs It and Its contanla ara not to ba dUtributad oulalda your •"" ""^ Dallas 3-25—6/+ Harrison Exhibit No. 5029 83 (2) He was stationed in the center of the ramp in the area where the corridor leading from the jail office meets the ramp. Other officers were along the west side of the rampo The press and television representatives were on the east wall of the ramp facing the corridor through which OSWALD would pass while being transferred from the City Jail to the vehicle used to transport him. At about that time one or two police cars went out the Main Street exit. He believes Lieutenant PIERCE was in one of the cars. This was about three or four minutes prior to the time OSWALD was escorted out of the jail* office. He said Captain FRITZ came out of the jail office and asked an officer, identity not recalled by HARRISON, if everything was O.K. and received an affirmative answer. Immediately thereafter OSWALD was escorted out of the jail office door by Detectives GRAVES and LEAVELLE, one of whom was on either side of OSWALD. They walked down the- short corridor towards the ramp and the officers who had been stationed along the corridor filled in behind them. As OSWALD and the officers walked down the corridor towards the someone in the group of press representatives called for' HARRISON ra:r.p, and some officers near him to move back. He glanced back over his left shoulder to the crowd behind him, but didn't see anything suspicious and did not see JACK RUBY in the crowd. One or two of the officers near him shifted t;heir ' positions a little, , , ^ f-- ;.<.*'. OSWALD was being escorted down the corridor, OSWALD glanced ,. ^^x-rciiiQ at the crowd behind HARRISON and on HARRISON'S left side. At about that same instant a man whom HARRISON later recognized ast JACK RUBY ran past his left side in a crouched-over position, RUBY was about one-half step ahead of him when he first saw RUBY, He observed that RUBY had a gun in his right hand and was extending his right hand in OSWALD'S direction. RUBY was moving directly towards OSWALD, OSV/ALD was only about six feet from HARRISON at the time that RUBY passed by him and RUBY had only about one step to go to reach OSWALD. At about the same instant that he saw the gun in RUBY's hand he recognized RUBY and immediately started to move towards RUBY, The gun was fired by RUBY almost instantly. At. the time the gun went off, HARRISON had his right hand on RUBY's right forearm and was trying to stop RUBY from firiii the gun. As HARRISON followed through on his rush toward RUBY, he forced RUBY to the floor. At that same time several other officers also grabbed C^&l \^ 'M^ Harrison Exhibit No. 5029— Continued 84 L UH 111 He did not see RUBY or talk to RUBY between November 22 and November 2U. 1963, until he observed RUBY a second or so before RUBY shot OSWALD on November 2^^ 1963. HARRISON had no information concerning any relationship between OSWALD and RUBY. He did not know OSWALD. HARRISON had no other pertinent information concerning this case. (^ Harbison Exhibit No. 5029 —Continued 86 I DL k-r-1639 "November 24, 1963 "Mr. J. E. Curry Chief or Police "Subject: Shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald "Sir: "I v;^ 3 standing about half-way between the West w^ll of the driveway and the rail. As the detectives brought the prisoner out. Jack Ruby came by me from my left side with the gun In his hand. As he came by me the gun was about a foot from me in Jack's right hand. As he shot. made a move to get him and went to the floor with him £3 there were about six (6) of us on him at one time. I tried to grab the hand that held the pistol and the pistol wa- knocked. out of Jack's hand after we v/ere on the floor. I remember Detectives Cutchshaw and Lowery being on him as v;ell as other officers. X could not say where he (jack) came from. All I know Is that he came from the :!;ear.and left of us. . • ' . "Ai'-ier we took h_a in the Jail Office and was putting the han.-^uffs on him, he (Jack) said, "I hope I killed the S.O.B." " That Is all he said until I left him on the fifth floor Jail with some of the detectives. "Respectfully submitted. /s/ W. J, Harrison . Patrolman, ID# 579 Juvenile Bureau Criminal Inyestlgatlon Division" /LhhyLpi//i r7i-.5>^-v^ -J$-^y- _f.Z. -j^ ' Vm — '- ''i '- Sx.No.503O HAilRISON,Wm.J. Deposition^ Dallas 3-25-64 /' Harrison Exhibit No. 5030 87 ' FD.J02 (Hot. 3-3-49) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION M. J. HARRISON, 9223 Donnybrook, Dall:::s, Te::as, Juvenile Bureau, Dallas Police Departncnt, advised that on November 24, 1963, he was assigned to the Security Detail , in the basement area of the Dallas City /'-.ll Building in preparation of the transportation of LSZ uA^^IjY OSWALD to the Dallas County Jail. E.^.Rr.ISON advised that during the pertinent period he v/as standing eight to ton feet to the left of Lieutenant R. E. S^AIIJ, JR. and was helping to hold the nev/3 media back on the north side of the ranp. As Boon as LZ3 Ii.1?.'/ZY CSV/ALD v/as brought to the edge of tho ran^p, JACX LECIT RUBY ran from the crowd of nov/s media to the left of KARRISON and shot OSV/ALD. HARRISOlf stated that he dived for RUBY and tried to knock tho gun from his hand but was too late. HARRISON stated that Rj3Y nade the A remark at_the-_-tine, ."I hoj2 I killed the SOB^nd caviid a /p . lot of p©opre"'s6mQ trouble^ -^ filc> vipi ^t~C(uc>Xj yu>L.'^i f^^i^i "S HARRISOII estimated that thero were •^iQTQ from T5etweQn 60 - 80 news media in tho ramp entrance and drive' area at- tho time of the shooting. cS ro^\ 11/24/63 Dallas, Texas 1^ DL 44-1639 Filo % SA- by Special Agant JALS3 W. BOCKKOU f /v/vra Dcto dicJj.*';cI 11725/3; Thio docurtont contoino nolther roc' p^V-ndatlonB nor conclualona o'^Jf «NO • 5031 HARRISON, Wm.J. 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S.HabU Heiendon Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 94 Q 1 f -J ^ ' " I S'L rcj\--\ ^rit:-ii«-'i''-'^^^v.l7 r t ./V CM o o o o o o o o o o_ ...o _ o Herndon Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 98 1 Uii i^7„a-j^ ^ ^/-^ /;:/!. ///i;;;'/;/ii ;/////://///; / rtf ^ + 1^ o o o o o o o o o__ o o o o o Herndon Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 100 G )0000000000000 / .-^ -- Kpc( .-le ^J i) V . 1 r.\>^ ) o O ^0 o ooooooooo ^ C. H. bTOELTINo C< —Continued Herndon Exhibit No. 2 102 1 A OOOOOQOOOOOOO J^^: '^u-y^'-nf^) ^ !>:;\:ihf hi lihillii \/ Nrt •- i; n _o_oooooooooooo C. H. i>rOtLTING CO. CtliCAGO 24. ILL. U.S. Hebndon Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 104 oooooooooooooc \. f w A t\ \ Herndon Kxhlblt No. 0000000000000 3 >o ^4. ILL. u.;3.A. cuAHi NO. i:249i*n MAoe «f He:rndon Exhibit No. 3 106 ' 1 ./ '^f' / Q6^^^ ^'l -_V^-,V.- 70/' '1 o o o o „ o o o o o Herndon Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 107 Q /:-.; _ OGOOOOOOO ,v i V4. .% L I J J^- G4^ C 7- H. ^JlO^.LTNG CO. CriICA!,. .o o _ o o o o o o o o o Herndon Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 731 0-64— vol. XX 9 109 00000000 0^ 00000 c K J <^ 'n,cr\^^"^ /«-,, i-y /^ 7;^ I : . ! ^XJ.. ^ ^.J. ILL. U.-'A. CI '.MM NO. .'..:-l Jl>H -^ O O O o o o o Herndon Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 110 3000000000000 'l)6-''5^p \mc^ .. . F- (^ 'if ^,f^^^ Herndon Exhibit No. 4 2.J. ILL. U.S A. CHART NO. 224958 M. 5 o o o o o Herndon Exhibit No. 4 111 - OOQOOOOOOOOOO L. — ' i y- f I y^ 7? I - "X DE IN USA. o o o o o o o o_ o o o o c Hebndon Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 112 — 1 0000000000000 C^'^ 300000000000 I I A)F'^ wii.^K p^f r I 1 ^^s^^ .i CO. CitlCAOO ^4. ILL. U !'..A. O Hekndon Exhibit No. 5 115 000000 00 ooooc ,...„...,._ .^. «^ I / i / •p :-> in i /A P_. C. /<. iJlOaUIlNC. CO. CfllCAGO i-*.. III.. U rj A. CHA;^ i 'NT'] 0000000 oooooc Herndon Exhibit No. 6 119 ) 000000000 i 4^ 5^.,i-^ t*^ /' A^ Id^- i t^ ^P avt/- Y iiaM / MADE IN U.S.A. o o o o o -D 0. o a @ o Heendon Exhibit No. 6 —Continued 121 ' OO0QOOOOOOO00 ^i n r i : . : 1 i •Xl..,. rA lU X- A o o o o oooooooo C. H. STOEUriNG CO. C HICAGO 1l4: ILL. U.S.A. CHART SO. ^^'.SSU MADc IN u 3 A Heendon Exhibit No. 6 —Continued 122 QQOOGGOOOOO ; I i ,1 /) " "'jii:«i:»::s::-c.iT.z3 ._ J:.^iii "V- v^/ Herndon Exhibit No. 7 C. H. bTO£LTI^G CO. CHICAGO ;'-4. ILL. U.S.A. o o o o o o o o o o o o Herndon Exhibit No. 7 125 44-731 O— 64— vol. XX 10 fcOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOG ^ < > c-r- !. i . ! / .5- -c i- RT NO 2;^4U5B MADt IN U.S.A. o O O O © O O O O D ^0l_ O ^ Herndon Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 128 00000000000 o oooooooool -kqJOF-LTING CO. CHICAGO C. H. b 1 I CC: I 2-1. ILL. U.S.A. CI- Herndon Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 129 0000000000000 130 00000000000 ^TOELTlNG CO, CHICAGO 24, ILL. U.S o o Herndon Exhibit No. 8— Continued 131 oooooooooooooc iiy'< rx \y UV r.ljiV" o o o_ ooooooooo C. H. brCtLI INC. CO. Herndon Exhibit No. 8—Continued 132 - Q DOOOOOOOOOOOOOC ) 1 GOOOOOOOOOOOOOi A^Q %m ^;Jt?v^3^-P4'^^^ ^ca^Uj<^uj K'"^ \\^1^ -k-i-L^ yllWi ^ ! I •: V ! r \4i^V ^ [i- ?r- ^ ooooooooooo^ LTING CO. CHICAGO 24. ILL. U.S.A. CH Ai? r NO. 2^4 J DQ M..otlNU5A, o o Herndon Exhibit No. 9 —Continued 138 I ^ . .. »^ . ^* f/L^^:.-'/ .^< \^]l4' f C^c Ifv-sN :24'J0U MACIK IN U S A. ;fi o o o o o o o o ^o_.._.o o o o Heendon Exhibit No. 10 —Continued 140 OOOQOOOOOQOOOO D 1 1 Q o o o o — Continued HEaiNDON Exhibit No. 10 144 I ) 0000 00000( 72 ^/^i l»' /^$ -^ ©00000 CMAi^..A L^llv^V,^.";?^>^ > ^< J... C H. .SrOh-LIINvT. CO. CHICAGO 2i. \\\ o _ o o Q O O O O Herndon Exhibit No. 11 — Continued 148 . aoooooooQoooo ,1,^-.- ( '' I 's • y c. f iJ- L . 1 I m ii 'S^ o o o o ooooooooo C H. brOl-LilNiiCO. CHiCAGO 24. ILU. U.i..A. CHAHr NO. a^-iG-jTi f Herndon Exhibit No. 11 —Continued 150 0000 000000 Herndon Exhibit No. 12 oooooooooooo I ! CHART NO. 2^Ay5U '''OE IN USA. C H. STOELTINi. CO. CHlCAC-O .'-A. ILL. U.S.A. Heendon Exhibit No. 12 152 00 00000 00 ) o o o o o o o o o o Herndon Exhibit No. 12 —Continued 153 OOOOQOO'5 0000 I t i ; — f-— ^4 rX' y>U '^ o o ooo©ooooo H. STOELTING CO. CHICAGO 24. ILL. U.S.A. CHART NO. 22493B MADE IN USA. Herndon Exhibit No. 12 — Continued i 154 Hill (Gerald) Exhibit A y^n^i L. KlU Exhliji- HiLL (Gerald) Exhibit B 156 Gerald L. Hill Exhibit C Hill (Gerald) Exhibit C -731 O— 64— vol. XX 157 12 Hill Exhibit 5 o n Hill (Jean) Exhibit No. 5 158 •D-302 (R.T.3.3-J9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Daf __11Z24Z63 Vj A. D. HODGE, owner of Buckhorn Bar and Trading Post, i;), -^ 217-19 South Ervay, residence 6573 Senwood, Dallas, Te::as, V stated that he has known JACK LEON RUBY for over 20 years, vo^^ that RUBY during that time hae boon vory well known by most --4 of the police officers in the Dallas Police Department, as y ^• well as the Sheriff's Office. HODGE stated that prior to i ' • seeing a photograph in the newspapers of LEE HARVEY OSv;ALD, "^\x ^^ < he had never known that individual before, nor had he ever heard of him. ^ Mr. HODGE stated he did not have any information concerning possible associations between OSV/ALD and RUBY. ^ ^ Mr. HODGE stated that on the evening of November 22, 1963 -, the same date of the assassination of President KENNEDY, he J. had been talking to some officers in the Dallas Police Department at their request concerning the assassination r^ -si weapon, since he is somewhat of a gun collector in the >^ n, Buckhorn Trading Post, and the Dallas Police Department ^^ wanted him to check all of his records concerning the sale of the assassination weapon to OSWALD. Mr. HODGE stated that the only pertinent thing he wished to mention is that as he was going down on tho elevator in the Dallas Police Department, City Hall, the elevator stopped either on the second or third floor, and JACK LEON RUBY got on. He stated that RUBY immediately shook hands with him and asked "Have they arrested you, HODGE?" HODGE stated he took this as a Joke, that both laughed, and nothing further was said about it. He did not ask RUBY why he was there, nor did RUBY volunteer, but he thought RUBY \>&s merely there as he was, attempting to assist the Dallas Police Department. HODGE reiterated' that he had no information concerning any connections between RUBY and OSWALD. A. D. Hodge Exhibit 1 11/24/63 «t Dallas. Texas Pil, i(^ Dallas 44-1639 JAMES W. ANDERTON i Special Afl.ntS and EDMOND C. HARDIN/sl ^ 1' S* Oot. dictated 11/24/63 ' • docunaol contain* n«Mh«r raeemmcDdationa nor conclualona r- oi. )<• proparty d( Ih* FBI and la loaned Xc Ir as.ney; II and tia aaatat^J^l^ira' nal 'a^Oa dtairibut.rf eui.M. ; ,ancy. Hodge Exhibit No. 1 159 •r- Holland Exhibit A 160 161 Holland Exhibit C 162 U VOLUNTAR.V STATEMENT. Not Vadtt Amtt. Pona No. 30 (£^ Dcforo roc. tho undcrcJsncd authority, on thU tho _2il d .y of . ^Tpy'"!^""^?! A.. D. 19-i23_ ^„..^.,.„„^...,,,H S. M. Holland Adj-::i ^^^9 Luclllo. Irving, /.:= ^L_. Phone No. BIL3-218^ Tor.as Di?o;ci end sayai- 3; olcftal Supervisor Tor th( Un.oii Torrnlnal and I was r^^.^ iiicpactinf; si^i^al and si/itchQs and stoppod to uatch tho parade. I i;a3 ctandinr^ on top of tho triple lindcrpcss and tho Proaidont's Car ijas co.'.iinf; dov;a iiln Stroot and xjhon thoy get Just about to tho Arcado I hoard uhat I thought for tho no.-ncnt via 3 a Tiro crackor and ho siu;r,pod over and I loolcod ovov tov/ard tho arcado and troes and sav/ a pufr of svio'co co".c from tho troos and I hoard tlirco .nioi'o shots aftor tho first shot but that iJas tho only puj?f of sinoko I sa\'.. . I i.TU'aediatoly ran around to i:hcro I could sco behind tho arcado and did not soo anyone running fro:.-; there. But tho puff of 3:.ip'-:o I oa'-: definitely carao from behind the .arcado throuch tho trees. Aftor tho first shot the 'Prosident 3lu:i:ped ovor and lira. Konnody iui.ipod up and tried to c°'*' ovor In, tho back seat to him and then tho second shot rang out. After tho first shot tho s-crot service man raised up in tho seat vrith a raachino cua and thou ciropped back doun in" tho soat. And thoy ininiodlatoly sped off. iilvcrythinf^' is spinning in. my hoad and if I romeaibor anything elso lator I v:ill couio back and toll Bill. ^^^•-''r^ 7v^^^2^.<^^^i^^ o Subscribed and sworn to before mc on this the day of -'^^'^^g^-^^^'<->^^^<-^ ^ £)_ I9 e^j^ Notary Public, Dallas Coui^ty, Texas Holland Exhibit D 163 1 DL 44-1639 "December 1, 1963 "Mr. J.E. Curry Chief of Police "Sir; " Re: Interview of Reserve Officer, Patrolman Harold B. Holly Jr., 325 "On December 1, 1963 Reserve Officer, Patrolman Harold B. Holly Jr. was interviewed by the .undersigned officers as to any information he might have concerning the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald. Holly had not submitted a report prior to the interview V7ith these officers. "Patrolman Holly stated that he reported to the City Hall at approximately lis 30 a.m. on November 24, 1963. He was assigned to work traffic at the intersection of Main and Harwood Streets. At approximately 11:45 a.m. he was assigned to Parkland Hospital to assist in the handling of traffic at that location. "While there. Holly stated that an unknown reserve police officer related to him that he, the unkno^Tn reserve officer, had passed Jack Ruby into the basement of the City Hall after Ruby had, presented press credentials. "Holly was shown photographs of several reserve officers by Captain J. M. Solomon and was unable to identify this unknovm reserve officer. "Captain Solomon advised the undersigned officers to be skeptical of this information and not to place too much credence in it. "Holly stated that he was not familiar with Jack Ruby and had not seen him on the date of Oswald's c s< sr c J:x.No.5109 - HOLLi:,H.B.Jr. ^ Deposit ioiu. '3 3^ Dallas 3-26-64 Holly Exhibit No. 5109 164 2 DL 44-1639 "shooting. At this time Holly has not been contacted by ary federal agency. "Respectfully submitted. /s/ Jack Revill, Lieutenant Special Service Bureau" I \ A \ c e s^y Holly Exhibit No. 5109 —Continued 165 , . Ft)-302 (Rov, 3.3-S9)' pf RAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ^\^^ n... ^2/7/63 phcr.c E?.. KOLLY. JR., 3429 Antilles, residenca l-L^nOLD B. 9-45S4, Dallas, Texas, furnished the following ^ .\ ^^ (^^ X i~ He is employed as a General Contractor with offices at his residence. He has been a reserve police v^ -^ • , f ^ \^, officer with fee Police Department at Dallas, Texas, ^ ^ _:; for a nur.:ber of years and is presently a member of the ,' r-7.., C First Platoon, "C" Company. .1^'''^ J ^ concerns his assignments during the week end .'^s of Novev-iber 24, 1963, he vjas first contacted by Sergeant I-l-.YC , on November 21, 1963, and v;as told to report to the ccir.ir.and post of the police reserves at the Central Police Headquarters on the follovying day. ?:e stated, hov;evar, he had business to conduct on the morning of November 22, 1963, and learned of the President's assacsina- ticr. while at his residence. Ke imAiediately put on his uniform and proceeded to Central Police Mea.dquarcers arriving there about an hour after the President's assassina- tion. There x;as much confusion at the police station and he did not see any reserve officers that he la?.ew there. He did not laicw LEE tLVRVEY CS'.JALD was in the building at that time. He went to the office of the Burglary & Theft Unit cvi the third floor and spoke with a Captain SOLCIICN, v.-ho is the coordinator for the police reserves and is assigned to the police training school. He asl-.ed Captain SCLCMOl^ what he could do to assist arid v;as told it was alright for him to help the regular officers keep spectatorc away frc.ii the third floor of the Central Police Headcuarterc He then stationed himself in che third floor lobby and checlced identification of anyone v/ho attempted to i7alk do-.-.Tn the hall xjhere LEE K.iRVEY OSVJ.a.LD was being held. Ke stated he vjas not instructed as to vjhat type of identifica- tion would be valid, but he assumed that it would consist of seme type of official press card. In his cirn mind, he felt press badges were not proper identification and ailc'wed no one to pass doxm the hall v;ho merely had a press badge. He made a point to check everyone attem.pting to walk by him who v.^as not in uniform. He did not l !t Is the property ol the FBI T'r.Ia or.d 1: 1 your agency; It c.u :ta contents ore not to be dletrlbuted outetde your aqey^ Ex. No. 5110 HOLLY, H.B. Jr. Deposition Dallas 3-26-6^ Holly Exhibit No. 5110 166 . . l)L 4A-i639 Eov .sboiic Ke scsCed he v;as coo thii'cy n^.inuies rw tOi.iix u:.;j>i.:t. J.s of ahe. ijS; r-vir.^Kion co eac diiinet;.. a rosijl!.. ;k- v;;'^ik; back cO the thixd £"t.on)V and sitciyed there uncil. jb>.'u;. 7 30 PN', ac which cirvit;' he left the police station • ond Vi>i.i.Ni-ivd to his hffin<-^ iie did vox, see JACK RUBY e.C ,. cho" polir.c stacion at -jny t !;)<.* on ch.it. d^y On Saturday,, Niivcinbe 2'K 1963, he returned to ?. the (.Mrir-v,;:! Police Ker^dqu'-rit i.-.rs at Cibouc 7:00 ?M end was "."Msxgood V>y a roservtr offivor i^^ho&o identity ha did v:ot , U'v,.>w\ to dixijct tTttff-ic 0:-r live lnK.v'7;ve:Ctlcn of Co>n.T.erce ;:;d AlOid Street's in dov,/nt o-viu rail;-;?:. He viforlced at this .iSsif;nm>-MU. Tru: three huur.v arnl cbc-n returr.ed co his.hca:e after sij^ning ouc at thi? re'/?;-ve <:^o;r,.'nand pose at police headquarters. He did n«f aie piar^s., He left his hcir.e • i^OKetime after 10; 00 AM,, on ^:^'vt:Jnber lit-, 1963, and' upon- 1 . arriving at Central I'olice HeaoqTyivircets deteriUined that LE!:". K/\;-vVf!V OSWALD h-;-t the laaip entrance on Main Street, Lieutenant KRISS did not malt CSUALD T.e £ti;t:ed he v;as unable to . recall exactly what thii officer said, but it i;as probably one of the three possibilities he had just mentioned. This reserve officer did not say where he was assigned at the Central Police Headqaarters at the time of the shooting I-Ie also recalled this officer told him that o "the man" had a press bedge hanging from his coat lapel. Me relayed tMs information to a close personal friend of his^ I2etective GiJS EVSSI-IART, i-Jho is a regular officer i.5£ig?ied to the Burglary c.- Theft Unit, lie believed he told r'-'ViiRI-L/iJ^T this on the follcuing day. Later on the str-e week, he was instrtacted to report to Captain SCLCvlOK, at which time Captain SOLOMUN exhibited photographs of rej-erve officers to him in an effort to identify the reserve officer he spol^e vjith at the hospital. Ke picked c'j't one of these photographs as possibly beivig a good i ness of the reserve officer he had spolcen with, and • - ec^lled Captain SOLOMON saying that this officer v/as one f the men who was on duty apparently on the Main Street cnip at the time' of the 'snooting,, He recalled SOLOMCrl aying i-..'ords to the ef fecr ^hat he ^••as the reserve officer s signed thexe, He^. pt-r fc?«Ji:al ly , did net Icioi? i.'ho was on v.---'; ot thfc M-jiir. Stree,. r:«rap at iiha time of the shooting. •J.civ. ;<_'). cce O'f f-ic-Tic he "aad t^r.-^K^n V7ith as a vjhite male. 1 '".;.:'' -y? Holly Exhibit No. 5110 —Continued 168 DL ^A-1639 4 age 35, 3° 9", 170 lbs,, v;ich an olive complexion. This officer vas a patrolman aud he could recall no additional dascripcive daca„ He believed there was a regular officer direc'cing traffic at the intersection of Main and Karvood Streets during the time he was assigned to direct traffic at the Main Street rarap after the shooting. After reading in the paper that a lie-detector test had been given an officer of the Police Departrnsnt, he assumed the officer referred co was the reserve officer he identified froni photographs exhibited to him by Captain SOLOMON He has not heard anything from anyone at the . police Deoartment, however, concerning the identity of the officer who allowed JACK RUBY to enter the building, how he might have gotten in., or who the reserve officer he spoke vvith might have been. As concerns JACK RUBY, he first met bin about D.v'o years ago. TOM WATSON, a paint contractor, who is r.ovj deceased, arranged with RUBY to paint the front of cbe Caro'Usel Club„ Prior to that time, he had not met irJSY .W.'^TSON and he want to the club on a Saturday morning and RUBY Wc^s there; however, they had very little conversa- tion with him. A price had been agreed on for the job but, when RUBY saw how little time it took thera to finish it;, he became upset and indicated he did not think it v;as worth thit much. Since a price had been agreed at prior to p-iinting the front, RUBY eventually paid them what they had askedo Ke has seen RU3Y several times V7hen he rode as a partner vjith Lieutenant EVERHART since that time. EVER'ti/vRT was v/orking in Special Services then and it vjas necessary for him to check all the various night clubs in Dallas, including RUi&Y's clubs. At no time during these checks did he cc-'nverse with RUBY , however. RUiiY never extended any favors toiiiir. or Lieutenant EVERHART fc'hll-3 he van vith hire-., and he. vcixid certainly not accept any f^-y->irt ki ti„^v y^:^;:^ offered. >^ Holly Exhibit No. 5110 —Continued 169 - DL A/*a»'>39 ! He Icncvs nochlr^s concsrnirig ths baclcsroundj p?r:;<.;Ml iife^ or, political convictions of JACK RUBY .,-..., I-;.?- ivver hec:rd of LEE HARVEY OSVJ/iD prior to the bv!d ' Presj-dent assassinatiori ar.d lar.ous of no connection "i between OSUALD and JACK RUBY. "^- ''•-.- "'-' '- Holly Exhibit No. 5110 —Continued 170 ..ovo:.bo.' 'c:jj 19<-0 V V .J ..JJ: ..eourlty I'ransfer of Irisonr ^i; ully, Jr. '.c. 710 J I, 3 '2';/ .iitillco. uto, inro:?"i.^l 1.1:; t.'.i; .:, r l-'+, -it -it/- .i.-vli -,. • . . i:. u.;X:.ijv. i,o h or to th'J ;a;;ootiu , AuLy to tile- b .^,:,... ..-. .- r. ilfic.t .on C'-ri on hio j; c^iv , .^ .^tf -liy J birdtt' d, :. .. :b',-rh..rdt, I267 jotc ctivc .;a^-ji .ry .:i;-.d Vholt Bureau Holly Exhibit No. 5111 171 I •^ r-^ Harry D. Holmes Exhibit 1 )ftr-r>^- rm*m r^lmti9^ to Ihm f*mtim$ a MM or Affuamr i^tnt or typm) ^^^ ^- (Ds <-^>x^ yi./ \^ avor MOMua I AOOMSf (Ma . tnU, •ad now) J6/C *nM 9 /km. I or Armutoi ? Pi^^. x^ yf^-j, ^ Holmes Exhibit No. 1 172 IMPORTANT; Each p.)vt officf box is rented with the undcratonding that— V ^ 5 l^c^W '"^ * '"*" **^ ^^^ ^"'^^ »-J«n« J0>. Failure to iMy by tb« b»t day rf .. s'^rf^lrf t NOT b« \i rfti or tmpruptr purpo»«»: th« ctrndoct oT t frmxalxdtnt e» tattixy buittMfM the pf»ctic« uneMin vIoUtianoflawardclivvnrarinuladdrOMdtoananumcdwfktitioua ruiine. c undlvidiMl. Tamily. Rrrn, or corporaclon, «! c hiiJdrr.momben trf b K cd tb«s« nJa is broken t B boz may be cloacd < lioiafc refund of aay :bar(e, except tf tbey npiMcantnt km than be obtained from tbc Po»tin*«ter. boxboldcr or hi* a«cnt obtatn fceya foe the mamtvuid box from INSTRUCTIONS FOR WORKING COMBINATION BOX I. Cl« did tjf tt(M rmmm to tlit i^it, staii w 1 Teri «al IB tto Ml and ibfi UN ttcMd Mm anoi m 1 Tan rlikt Bri iti; « 4. Im UDi ktr LEFT tg apaa. FOR 0»IE KIX OKNCO POST OFFICE USE ONLY AffUCANT FLEXSB NOTE: Co=.pto rtoj, 0/ tlu. .„»,;„«,;„„ »<„/«.. ,„„r ^illl^n^ to oo„^, with ••*«•-' .11 to.1.1 rulfit r.ltithr. to lh„ ,utlla4 tnd ii— ol Poll Omc»Vaxn. NAME Of APPLICANT (i>ri nr«*/ov) r~] DELIVER TO UXAL RESIDENCE AT D' t TO UXAL BUSINESS AOORCSS h (No-, 9tr*^t. and io/m) ^^^JO^f BOX (.if box im rmnt*d to a Brm. inoludm th» full natnm of aac< 3 t>» placed in boM.) — H,D. Holmes Exhibit lA d) D ti:."; APPLICATION FOR POST OFFICE BOX Holmes Exhibit No. 1-A 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 13 173 Harry D. Holmes Exhibit 2 NEW FAMED FIREARMS MTERNATIONAL MATADOR! 12-l«.20-2« OR 410 OAUOK DOUBLE SHOTQUNSI ^ tammd nrcarms Intcmatlanal MATAOORI 10 Oaus* Magnum DouM* iiiniimsfcmm .«». » M, ,. . .. .^ .>.... - .^~ »^ "" *' U. 1 MOOa 1917 j Bfivn MMUN nic MUn/WY RIFLE M/M CUIIER ffpi IT Mm WITM IKW nVHmU SCOKS INSTUXEO ssrtt.*arr.T.*rwa •-s':.TSS":.Tr»TTir:rriaf «r. .Mrs. i mil TOUT— IMMtBHTt^nima KltlK-i-Otft 4M ' I 227 W. WtsMaitM Si 5 Cklcn* *. IKlnli mmM. I . r| CAM* CUlTO«*CII»' »•**< ttMt* »t NMMV »i*mr it S/rr:-.-,-- " $14.71 ;;• agjjJg^^Mff^ajae^ ttOW! MUN CMINETI MX USUMlEg! UKCtl t LOW IOX K«R^ I Holmes Exhibit No. 2 174 A ' mrtr- AfrUCAKT fLKASt MOTK Como/t "' '**•*•"<*'*»• tiinltt t with mB fmtml 'i-u^ »««• or AnuCAMT iTHM o, tTp,t MM or nma oa omraiunoii (// tea Jt rMitarf Aar •• w WflW) ^g^/T^ ^fo/?^/r. -r-:^ nworiusMas ' "OKI AMMfSS («o.. un%t. mm^ M>a.l Wna-nmi or tfn.Ktm Mft or «»»ue»Tia» _L "iruu or cuw I EITTCTCO IN DtRECTORY S''/y*• fWMp« 1 gr rwm on ooxKXUTiaM (1/ *m i> rmmtm^ tar in* •/ a^tftar) 1 I (» . XraM altf MM) t (• , MraM. and a«a»> ? ^^^^--^r^ Holmes Ex,hibit No. 3 POST 0»»ICf MMtTMl OFFIOAl ftUSINCSS /Cjy/^ ji^yA-s AiUj^^. '^i^^^^ raw fO«wxtoiNC ApciEU , ^ y // y ^ -/<:^ct\.'ccn the apprordratG hov;-3 of 9:25 a.n. to 11:10 a.r:. &.G2e prcGcnt, in addition to Incpcctor iLjl^'.co, vcr-o Captain Will Fritii^ Dallas Police, Forrest V. Sorrels, Local A^cnt In Choree, Secret £cr-/lcc, and Thoriaa J. Kelly, Incnector, Secret Service. In addition, there vcre thi-ec Detcctivea vho vcre apparently accicned to Guordlae Oswald an none of thea tool: port la the int err ©cation. Oswald at no tirco appeared confuned or in doubt oo to whether or not he should cnsvcr a question . 'On tlic contrary, he vao quite alert and Gho-.red no hesitancy iu anCT>'crlr<; thoco questions vhlch he vantcd to cnsvrer, and vao quite chillful in parrying those questions which he did not vent to onsver. I cot thji irnressica tliat ho lied disciplined hlo cind end rcTleixcQ to a ctato vhcre 1 personally doubted if ho vould ever liavc confessed. Ec denied, crqVnatically, ha-/±nc tckcTi. pai-t in or iiavln^ hod any Imowledcc of the chootln^; of the policeroa Tippitt or of the President, ctatlnc that so far as he is concerned the rcaccn ho was in custody was bccauao ho "popped a policczian in the nocQ in a theater ca Jeffcrcca Avenue." P. 0. B0>23— He was questioned separately cliout the three "boxes he had rented, and in caeh instance lilo cr.cvrcrs vcre quick, direct end accurate as reflected on the "box rental applications. He stated vit'nout prorritin^ that ho hod rented Box 2915 at the l-Ioin Post Office for several r^Dnths prior to his coin^ to IJcr./ Orleans, that this box iras rented in his cr.m. na::^^, Lee H. Oswald, and that he had ta^cen out two Iccyo to t"ne "box, and that v/ViCn he had closed the hex, he directed that his call "be forwarded to bin at his street address la IIov Orleans. Ho stated that no one received nrJ.! in this "box other then Llrxelf , nor did ho receive any rnail under any other na:no than his o\/n true nare; tiiat no one had access to the "box other thcx. hir/^elf nor did he pemit enycne else to vs.o this "box. llo stated it was possible that on rare occasions he r,ay have handed, one of the keys to his wife to go cet his Eiall but certainly nobody else. He denied en^Dhatically that he ever ordered a rifle under his narx; or any other n£."e, nor permitted, anyone else to order a rifle to be received in this box. Further, he denied that he had ever ordered any rifle by r-.oil order or bo-^"at ariy noney order for the purpose of paying for such a rifle. In fact, he clairied he cr^iCd no riTlo and hod not practiced or shot a rifle other than possibly a .22, cr.;il.l bore rifle, since his days with the M:;rinc Corp. He stated that "Eov could I afford to order a rifle on ::y salary of $1.25 oa hour when I can't hardly iTccd cyself on what I zaa]ce." Holmes Exhibit No. 4 177 i"o-.' t::o rcacou thrj'J he ovjocvrocd to ;:cvcrcl pubHicc/jlor.n, c-i -cr-.-Zw 'cvc^c- ir. r;uG=ir.,^ one ocii;:; "iho hc.^r.=-|:.ov-^ I'-r-C;^ "' v/.ich vcrc puhlich-cd ""^ '""';;;.. 1"? t* J; th-at it van =:orc practical to ciroly rent poat cmco corcco cr^ .-.avo ;"-is •^s-dl AOi--:crdcd i?rora one be:: to the nczit rath.cr ti:cn c'-^in:: t':rcu2;h t;-.i- r-rccccc -'-•' '^~~'-~'-^j -- -tv^c-"- f.icr. hir-^cli? to C'^'- ^-^j- i^ ^o:-: 3^^-^^ cni'ono ot'.:cr •'-'- t".'u:t did not. It \rll2. be recalled that on thlc be:-: rent arz-'-i-"--^-'- -'•- h.G chovcd t'nat both I'^^riiia Ocr.rold end A. J. Ilidcll vcrc lictcd und^r ths cc^tion "Pcrcons entitled to roccivo r.::il f.n-ov.^sh be::", /rtcr dci^inc that crc-cn- clcc that, end it conld very •ell be th.nt I did place her na,-o or. the cro'^'^^^^-^-^" • He vas then rcrdnded tliat the anylicction al:;o chc-.:cd the nc.-e A. J. Ilidell vos alco entitled to receive r^l in the bo::, at vhich he siinply ihruc;c<^-i ^- shoulders end stctc%i "I don't recall ciiythin^ about that". f. .:; 1c:-:cj:. School Booh De-.OGitcrj', he had rented a box at the nearby Tcrrijial in his nor-.e, Lee h. 0:r.;ald. T'; r.cr,t-_d hs hod only chech.cd out one hey Ccr on hi:; person at the ti:;.:; ci h . ^-vcit. He proj^ecccd not to recall •;he i'aet and coid that he didn't roeall eh.o-.rin" then:, '.rncn ached i^ he ooid "che be:: ansr.'cr to another cuo::tion, he alco ctatcd that no one hod any hncr<;lceL;;e that crrort '-0 ^cln but it vac ncv - r.ade clear vliethcr he hod or had n"i been accepted. Ho stated tliat he i'irnt bcca-c interested iii the 7.;ir ?lcy rTor Cuba they had' any president or any elected orficers. He stated that hOj '.::.:rc~—j eculd probably be considered t;:c secretary,'' since 'rio "(.Totc soive letters en :;h:ir Holmes Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 17» Dalles, ?o:caxi -J CTnh:icxccllyjnoo, ...a.^hc -:^^ Uhca Mkcd IT ho VQC c corioinict, he ctatcd .hct a conrr^-ix:;- ^-^^a y-^-cict. Cor:conc ackcd the dirrcrcncc crA ho ctatcd end x;ncn co.-oono^cn^.cc. Lenin-: '^-T'-lct, that he hiEcclT vcio a pvirc Mcr^dct, If tncy o_<.cn -^ /j-x-., the dirrcrcncc, he otcted th-t it vcjs a lon^ ztory end ^ too Ions to toll tl^cri.^ Ho otatcd further that he hod rcoa a^cu. it vould tcJcc cvcryth.lns vrlttcn "by or about Karl 2'Iar>:. vrncn asked onto Ms rcllclon, ho ctatcd that ICarl M^>c vc5 hlG reli&Lon, end rind^tnc in rcaponce to l\irbhcr oucctionin.'S he stated that come people inay Bihlc interesting reading, "out it vao not Tor hin^ ctatin^; further that cr/ca cc a philosophy there V£ls not much to the Biblo. COR? SERYICE MiVKH-H: Captain Fritz radc como r.cnticn of his dishonorable diecharco fron tho I-trine Corp at v.'hich point ho "bristled noticcahly, stating that he had hcca diceharccd vith an "bonorahlo" dlschai'CG end that this vas later changed due to his having; attcr:ptcd to denounce his /i_"ericen Citizenship uMle ho vaa living in Russia. He stated further that since his chanse cf citizenship did not cor.o to pass, he had -written a letter to lir. Connelly, then Cccrctnry of tho ITavy, and af-^er considerable' dclcy,' received a very respectful reply vhcrcin Connelly stated he hal rcsit?icd to rc:n for Ccr/crncr of Texas, end' that his letter vas helno; referred to the ncir Gccrctery, a :'-r. Cork, Kurth, or cosathinc liko that. Ee shoved no particular, cnlc^cslty t:as Ib^ployncnt Bureau, and that as he vc^lLd receive leads cither frora nuvspapcr ads or fron the Bureau or frcn neichhors, he vould chart these places on the roap to save tir.e in his travelinj* no caid to the hest of his recollection, ax>st of than verc out Industrial', pres'irrahly ir.oenieG Industrial Blvd. ''..'hen asked as to vhy the X at the Iccatlca . of the Tc::^i3 School Book Depository at Elm and Houston, he stated that "Uell, I lutcrvie./ed there for a joh, in fact, got .the Joh, thcrofcro the X". l/henasked as to hov he learned ahout this vacancy, ho ctatcd th-at "Oh, it vas General inforr-ation in tho neichborhocd, I don't recall Just vho told :zs about it, hut I leomed it frora people in 1-Irs. Pcynes' neishhorhcod" and that all tho people around there vere looking out for possible CLTplcy.nant for r-izi. AC2T'rxJ:iJUS? PRIOR TO Aim H-C-EDL^SSLY FOLLOWH^j ASSASSEL'C'IOII /JTZSI^— -To an inquiry as to vhy he Trent to visit his vif e on Th'orsdcy nisht, ITovecher 21, vhercaa ha normlly visited her over the \/eekend, ho ctatcd th^t on this particTiLar veekend he had Icai-ned tk*at hio ^.-ife and M-c. Peyno i.-cre ci"^iA3 a party for thQ chiildrea and th-at they verc having in a "houseful" of ncirhoorhood children end that he Just didn't want to be around at Such a ti2:a. therefore, be cadQ hio veekiy vicit oa Thurcdoy night. Holmes Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 179 if he didn't triiiG g ctick vrith hlr: -the nc::t r.omin^ -io i/crl'.j^^io V-r.cn cijkcd _^ CwCtcd that he did, rjid i:h.cn r.r;.:cd og to the cor.tc.itc of the ca^-.^_ he; c'^^^-co. fr.cit it contained hl3 limch. "Zncn, vhca och.cd as to the cis^e or chcoe of tho cacl:, he ccdd "Oh, I don't recall, it r^ licvc a cr.cai cccl: or a Icrcc each, you don't cl\rs^a find ono that Juct flto your srxd'„-ichoo." V.l-icn cckcd aa to^^ ^,•hcro ho placed the cack vhcn'hc cO" i^ "i^'^G car, he Gaid in hdo lap, cr pc3=l"b3y tho front acat bcaldc hlri, aa ho alvcys did TDCCauce he didn't vant to C-'i ^- vH-.cn advlccd crushed. He denied that ho placed a:iy package in the bach acat. in that tr.e driver ctatcd that he hcd brouc'nt out a Ions parcel end placed it ccso the bach scat, bo ctatcd "Oh, ho riuct be nictclicn or else thinlcinc about other tinx; vhca bo pichcd no up." \nicn. ac'.tcdas to liis vhci-cabouts at the tiria of the chcotinc;, he stated that vhcn lunch ttec cc:;-.c, c::d he didn't ccy vliich floor h^ vrac on, he ccid one of the Nesro crrploycco invited him to cat lunch ^rith bin end he stated "You co ^ on dCT.-n and send tho elevator bach up nnd I ^rf.11 join you in a fcv -inutcs." Before he could finish vhatevor ho var; doinc, be stated, the ccnrr^tion cui-roundin^ the assassination too!: place end vhcn he iront dov-n stairs, a polico- r,aa nucctloncd liir. ao to his identification rad Ms boss stated that "he is ons of our cn:ployces" vhcreupon the police:r.an had bin step aside r.cr.entarily. PollCTsxin^' this, bo sisnly vall:cd out the front door of the buildins- I don't recall tliat anyone anl:cd why he left or vncrc or hcrr.hc ^7cnt. I Just prcsusicd that this bed been covered in an earlier q.uc3'tionin2. A. J. TrmTT.T. IDi:2IFICr>TI0:i CI'^D Captai^i Prit:: ashed bia if he h^cv aa^'cne by the na-nc of A. J. Hidell end ho denied th^at ho did. I-.'hcn cnh.cd if ho had ever used this naco as an alios, he also r^do a denial. In fact, he stated that be had never used tho na-ro, didn't laiov anyone by this na-e, and r.a-/cr bad beard of the ncr,a before. Captain Trits then aal'.cd h.ia about the LB. card ho bad in bis podcct bearing such a no-jc and he flared up ar^i stated "I've told you all I'm coins "^^ about that card. You took notes, just read tlic-a for youi'selT, if you/irant to refresh your rer:xiry." Ho told Captain Frits that "You have tho card. I'ov you luio-,: cs rruch about it as I do." About 11:00 a.n. or a few nlnutcs thereafter, sor^one handed through th^ door several hcaccrs on which there vcrc sor.o trousers, shirl^s, and a couple cf Dvcaters. vrncn. asked if bo wanted to char.50 any of hie clothes before beir^ transfci-rcd to the County Jail, he said "Just cive r:a one of those sweaters." He didn't like the one th.cy banded bin and insisted en putting on a black slip-over c.-eatcr that bad so-.e Jacked holos in it near tho front cf the ric;bt shoulder. One cuff was released w'nile he slipped tr.iG over th.e head, follcwin, vh-ich he w"as acain cuffed. l>cr±az this change of clothinc;, C::LLcf of Police Curry caT.s into the roor: and discussed coractbins in an inaudible undertone vit Captain Pritz, apparently for tho purpose of not lotting Os-rrold bear what was bein^ said. I bavo no idea what this conversation was, but Just presunie they were dlscassin^ tho transfer of the prisoner. I did not i;^o downstairs to vitacca tbo f^nrtlier -"crancfer of the prisoner. rw H. D. KOLVtS Pcsti! Ir.;pcctor D:!;as 22, Tcxcs Holmes Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 180 WANTED TREASON THIS MAN is wanted for tr«ase«H»us 3 He has boon lax in enforcing Com- . •ctivitws agakist Hm Unit«d Sfat«>: munist Registration Um*. 4 Hefwsghfonsi^ipmtandwieeur* 1. Batraying th« Constitution (which agement to the Communiit imp* he swore to uphold): ired racial riots. He is turning the sovereignty of 5. Ho has illegally invaded a sover- the U. S. over to the communist eign State ¥rith federd tnMps. controlled United Nations. 6. He fias consistently appointed He is betraying our friends (Cuba, Anti-Christians to Federal office: Katanga, Portugal) ar>d befriend- UplKtids the Suf>reme Court in ing our enemies (Russia, Yugosia* its Anti-Christian rulings. via, Poland). Aliens and iaiown Communists 2 Me has been WRONG on innu- abound in Federal offices. merable issues affecting the se- 7. He has been caught in fantaftk curity of the U.S. (United Nations* LIES to the American poopio (in- Berlin wall-Missle removal. Giba« cluding personal ones like his Wheat deals -Test Ban Treaty.etc) previous marraige and dh^erce). Harry D. Holme* Exhibit No. 5 Holmes Exhibit No. 5 181 ssvssir Q — wi n I 11 — iw (m*mmmtatm»m^lm^it»mmfi» I ttmm^tm SfimBPP'^ ILJ iwLl comply with >«»«« ..^ss^.-z^-iX 7a±^ ttfSff 1093 ArmcATtM Ml NCT orra Q Holmes Exhibit No. 6 182 >ON liX^liiSlT 1 Hudson Exhibit No. 1 183 : , rD-303 (R.». jo.5») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION U/23/63 Do^a' ^\Vxr\ ROBERT S. HuFFAKER, JR.., Ji-703 E&«t Side Avenue, Apartcent ' -d 115, a newsman for KL.HD-T7, DAni^,3, ^ivt^e.i. th*t on Koventer 24, '^- l ; 196;^ he went to the Dallas Police Station -e.bout 8:00 AM, and entered >:: "'- '^ the-first floor door on the M-iin Street c-lde. No one vas checking "t,N for Identification at the time- he entered thifi door. However, he '"- ^ . rode the elevator to the third floor "iDd, af- he doz off the elevator, "^^ ^ h? '.Kis required to produce ideatificatlcn Kveal.ng that he represented ^ , ' . a r»ewj; media. v i^ "^ HUFFAKER went to the basem?nt of ihe Police Department ;> • M Building ftbo-jt one-hnlf hour before OWALO vp.s shot. He vas re- - C ! quired to Rhov his press cari ap he erjter'^d the •vnrklsg area in ''>i\ • ', j-the baeenient. At that time, he obfetv^^d th' t everyone else vho /\'^ /• 'entered the ba?ement area v^s re5iilred to p oduct; identification. \' ^^ .-. 'There were only a few £^r?oa9 in the bajemet.t vht-n he fir?t arrived. < ^ ^ He noted that Sergeants PATB.IC< DKTS and Jlil mjr'.IAM appeared to be i6^ J: in charge of securit.y in the barenent, and \e va impressed vlth ^ ,'^ i the thoroughness with which they seemed to Ve checking all persons ^ '^ in the araa. He even noted they v^re f-he^<"-y>. rn? police automobiles o i.-^ i parked in the area. T -v! 1 HUFFAKER advised he loee not know .JACK F:U3Y and cannot ~^ '^'^ \ recall having ?een him In the baseaect of t1 e Pc .Ice Department ' prior to the shootlcg. In fact, If. did r.ct get 1. look at PUEY's | face even after OSW/XD was i;hotr He had ^3 luied a e-tation dlr-^~:tly j in front of the door.? leading f roi: the elev tor r.ito the ramp ir. < the basement and h-^d been trying lo kef-p po; .=od5 cut of the line I of the KLRD C'smer-H^ in order that OSWAIO cov Id bt photographed aa he i 3.pft the door? leaillng from the •sl'ivator. 1 i." eje? were focused ' on OSWALD a-; he appro'^chsd the autcmobll** which vas to transport 1 him to the County Jail aod, vhen the &hot rang out, he looked ' ; toward OSVJAID, a? the ler»on from auother. | HUTTAiGR ?t^t*:l th^t the qui-.k movement of R-.JBY toward OSWALD would not have attrH'^tc'.d bi."^ atteatioo., in^ismuch as the seventy-five or mors nevfoien in the aren were constantly .jostling for position ^nd it vs.;' not vfcommon for one of then to Jo?t-le against another or to zRove iDlckiy xo a more advantanj'^ous site. He did not hear anyone yell at P.U3Y Jupt prior to or einultaneoufly with the shcotinc, but »<4vi:el thur e w'^- ^0 m'jc>:i_n^i»«^_ in the area _Ex.N0.533i HUFFAKER,R. Deposition- Dallas /;-16-6/; 11/28/63 Dal.lar, Tpxa^ # "'"' "^"-^"J^ F-| by Spociol Ag,nt. SDMOND C. HA'^.DIN- fr, PA(-?H F. PAVP..I?f?S Dof» dictot«d U/28/6^ T^la document contains neither rec^-MDendatlooe nor oonclualone of the FBI. It te the property oi the FBI and U loaned to your ogeacy; It and Ite contents oiXEf'Ojto be distributed outside your agency, xdRO HuFFAKER Exhibit No. 5331 184 DL kk~l639 2 It 13 pocsitle pomeoae could have y»jLl.ed without him heerlng. HUFFAKER stated that it appeared to him that all persons in the area vere helDg closely checked for Identification prior to adoittance to the b«*«:eroent er^a. At no instances did he observe pereona admitted without exhibiting Ideatiflcatlon, HuFFAKEK Exhibit No. 5331 —Continued i 185 ^««o» (K«T. s-»-4t) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ' X^^^ December 2» 1963 Oat*. Mr. ROBERT S. HUFFAKER, JR., on interview at his residence, A700 East Side Avenue, Apartment 115, furnished the following information: He has been in Dallas for only seven months and is employed as a reporter for KRLD. He is not well ac- quainted in Dallas and prior to the time JACK RUBY shot OSWALD, he was not acquainted with RUBY, and to the best of his recollection had never seen RUBY before. On the morning of November 24, 1963, he was assigned to get the story on the transfer of LEE HARVEY OSWALD from the Dallas City Jail to the Dallas County Jail, and he went to the Dallas Police and Courts Building for this purpose. He was required to show identification as a representative of the press in order to get into the basement of the Police Building and to get to the drive- through ramp in the base- 4\l/^ ment where he was standing at the time of the shooting. "^^ He arrived at this position approximately thirty minutes \ prior to the shooting. Since he does not know RUBY, he . would not recall whether RUBY was present in the crowd prior to the time he did the shooting or not. He would estimate the number of people present in the basement of the Police and Courts Building at the time of the shooting as approximately 75 people divided equally between the press and police. He recognized JIM ENGLISH and BOB HINKLE with KRLD- TV camera and TOM PETIT, of NBC, and a French news representative, whose first name is FRANCOIS but whose last name he does hot know, as being present at the time of the shooting. He observed guards at both ends of the drive- through ramp and he saw officers searching the cars in the parking area in the basement prior to the time OSWALD was brought out of the Jail. He also saw a patrol wagon driven through to the _Ex.No.5332 HUFFAKER,R, Depositioa, Dallas 4-16-64 ^ 'A Q-4 11/30/63 ,Dallas, Texas^^ mt A. PINKSTON and *""• ' „ — OL 44-1639 — „^ „„^^ WlW ' WN/gm W- »*M.AN BROWN/g. k, S,.c,.l A,.n,« This tfoeatMBt eoatalB* •lihar r»oaBa*adaUoa* nor eoeehialea* oi lh« FBI. tl la Ik* 9»9pMit •! tiM rkl tmt la laaa*4 !• row afaaeri U aa« lu aoalaala at* ael laM atolrlbalad oataUft #M» S^tHSfl HuFFAKER Exhibit No. 5332 186 2 DL 89-43 jail and obfetrved >gc. ^UTN'.K of thc> rolic* Doparttpcnt search it beforo Ir. ^t/xt allowed Inr.j th^? bascrnoot. He was required to uxhjblr. nis ureos pass and vouch for JIM ENGLISH and r,Oi MIWKLF. with ^ttl.J»-VV as being ropro- sentatives of IX/l) RJnce thf y did noc ha\rc press pusntn* Mr. H/IFFAKJiR scat'.d that \\e. could n7»* ^ay th-ough which wa}' RUrY entered the basement of th? jolicfe and Courts 3uilding since )ie n'Svrr naw RIJBV untitl the i^.nstant of Che shooting and c^o^as not koo./ wh^ro he ca'u* jTroii. There was nothing tnat he obscrvtd that would indicate any conspiracy on the part of anyone *.o lot .(ITJy Into the crowd since all police personnel appeared to him to have been taken eoiiplctely by sucorl^c. , V HUFFAKER Exhibit No. 5332— Continued 187 188 HuLEN Exhibit No. 1 CoBmlsslon Bchlblt ^^ -^ ^ HuLEN Exhibit No. 2 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 14 189 YOUNG MEN'S CHRISTIAN ASSOCUmON I OF DALLAS | DOWNTOWN BRANCH Dot. loji'k 19^1^ im» A* iZ- Q^ ^i'\ a- MtMHWMir wu ^ /yL^LH^JL- .J^Ul. IV|7^*^ /rj-j-6 Vd^ ^ /Sti t :diW xrr J- 7 (?ck' tc o !_J| /rr. ZK_ I - /rrr^ |y/^ . re /rf^ "r7y /rryc --tL « .r' f^ />'j-i / fe zrzr. \ /s-r'/t :=-^ ^IL^TX^Li: DM33^ C^ Commission Bthlblt rcfc" ^/ -m HuLEN Exhibit No. H 195 .cH CoBunisslon Exhibit :/:i ^ HuLEN Exhibit No. 12 196 REBIDL^'CK HALL RFPOFT Pr. w-U?IF,nTS IN: RESIDEMCE HALL REPORT:. M3NDAY, OCTOBER 1$, 1962 PERMANENT S IN ; 101? Renau P. Brown McRee TRAUC TENTS OUT : 608 J^n Burson McEee K2XI 710 Berr.ard R. Tinney McRee h07 J. E. Smith Marshall 100$ Joseph H. Courts McRe© 120 S. M. Fletcher Marshall P2FMANENTS OUT: 503 rfelvin E. Papp Bardford 523 H. C. Wilson Marshall 608 Jack Harting W. B. 52lj R. Swanda Marshall 1019 Thomas D. Foster W. B. 602 B, D. Framer Itorshall 60li Robert L>» Koweski W. B, TRAIICIENTS TH : 609 Jim Burs on McRee 616 Joiin L, Genz Bradford ljl5 Lee Oswanld W. B. 626 Jeff D. Swartz J^arshall I4I7 Bob Per.rce W. B. 72 14 Mat Matthews Marshall 1;25 Woody GatrBOod W. B. 710 Bernard R. Tinney Marshall 1:27 Henry N. Seror W. B. 822 Wade Teague Marsahll 129 W. H. 3ell W. B. 828 John F. Pfifferling Marshall 5oi Richard Kerr- W. B. 829 Zellman Dickerson Marshall 510 J. D. Smith W, B. 912 Lee Oswald Marshall 517 Laurence O'Dwyer P. M. 913 Howard Berry Marahll 520 Jimmy Easterwood W. B. 911: Jerry M. Swatting McRee §20 Eddie Kahn W. B. 929 Gary N. Watanard Bradford 523 H. C. Wilspn P. M. 1002 Jerry Welch Marshall 526 Puinald W. Lester W. B. 1002 John Weber Marshall 529 T. L. Sharer W. B. 1105 HDbert Hess Bradford 607 VJilliam F. Lowery W. B. 1112 Samuel Dutheridge Bradford 610 Don I'lead W. B. 1212 John B. Aiaiond Marshall 6lii Galen L, Hayes McRee 616 Job Jackson Marshall 622 W. L. Charapoin Marshall TRAILS FEES: 623 Hollye L. Cloud P. M. 707 J. D. Edwards V. B. 719 to 602 Dave Atkins Cf; 717 I-. E. Reinhardy P. M. 720 >;. Bonanno P. M. 720 Darrell L, Murray P. M. VACANCIES: 721 Sam Dutherage P. M. 822 llike Fe..nell Marshall 103, 107, 111, fi20, 142am 503, 523, 52J4, 528, 82liHerbert ^wert Mo Bee 601, 609, 610, 611, 619, 620, 621, 625, 626, 906 Lorence . Bravenec P. M. 627, 628, 70I4, 707, 715, 719, 92I4, 828, 829, 928 Bill Baker W. B. 909, 912, 913, 911*, 921, 929, 1002, 1019, 1021 Rev. Loepz GArcia P. M. 1023, 1029, 1030, 1105, 1212. 1112 R. F. Swenson P. M. 1215 H. A, Thompson W. B. CoBmisslon Exhibit 4^(0. HuLEN Exhibit No. 14 198 Resident H;sLL REPORTl FRIDAY. OCrOBER I9. I962 PERMANENTS IN: TRANCIENTS IN CONT'D : R. 829 F. C. V.-u McBee $08 Giordano Chianittini 828 Y. L. Chen McRee 913 Felix Ralli 819 Waig, y L, McEee 91I4 James R. Slider 921 A, Wlavoord PEKMANENTS OUT ; 929 S"m Sixth era ge 1001 L. D. Wil^ersham 712 Jack L, Hombakor P. M, 1002 Geroge Levasseur 1002 J. E. Coatney TRMCIENTS IN : 1005 Wesley Seay 515 Ja.^.es E. Green R. W, 1010 Ivan Ridre lj03 Richard Snyder Barker 1021 Lester A. Hair rzrxTPfi^ I4O9 Edwaed Calderon Barker 1028 J. T. 0' Biem Ij.1 Arnold L, Cox Baiicer 1029 J. T. Robbins ljl5 Alton Herring Barker 1105 George Rrad 117 Virgil F* Carpenter Barker 1213 Loren E. Culler Ij27 Dan Rhodes Barker 1215 Earl Stroupe I428 Frank Beadles Bj,rker 129 John W. Borwn P'. M. 502 Don Mead P. M. TRANCIENTS OUT : 503 Claude Bouchillon Barker 50ij Robert Lamed Barker 1409 Robert Coleman 510 Heniy Firedman Barker 1410 Howard J. Holland Slit John P O'Coran^r R. W. 1^15 Lee Oswald 520 Marc Mathers Barker lil7 Bob Pearce 520 R. C. Atcheson W. ii. 502 Tommie J. BurShilder 52lj Ronald Jorjison W. B, 501) R. E. Powell 525 W. E. Curable R. tf. 510 Donlad Ford 526 J. R. Cantrell W. B. 515 Milton Delandy 528 John B. Dickson Barker 520 Jiirmy Eastwood 529 John N. Theall Barker 520 Edie Kahn 606 W. H. Jobe Barker 52lj James W. Kncwles 607 L, H, Whitmeire Barker 525 San Dutherage 611 Ralph H, Cobb Barker 526 Ronald W. Lester 616 Don Sli^ycard Barker 529 Ronmy L. Shafer 619 Allen Shetland W. B. 606 M. K. Vaughn 609 V/illian Johnston Barker 607 Lawrence Johnson 620 Robert L, Holmlg W. B. 611 Ivan T. Ridre, Jr. 620 M. E, Dugeon Barker 616 Joe H, Jackson 620 William Mullen W. B. 707 R. R. Xancy 620 Harry Walker W. B. 717 Harold Q. Miller 621 Kenn Ambum Barker 723 W. E. Miller 622 Maurice '-'.Vinger Barker 72I4 J. A. Sellards 623 Gilbert Perez W. B, 819 M. H. Wang 625 Donald PjGelo W. B. 828 Yl. L. Chen 628 Gene Jaczak Bafcker 829 F. C. Wu 629 K.chard Boudreau ' Barker 908 Leo Bnuckner 702 J. L. Hershop . Barker 926 Richard L. Preble 707 Al Brannon Barker 1010 Rev. N. Barcia 715 Mkie EcCoraack W. B, 1029 Warren Hovioios 717 Larry Williams ' W. B. 1112 Mel Lauderdale 721 Michael Cannody W. B. 1215 H. A. Thomspon 723 M. luhara Baiicer 72ii Charles E, Duel! W. B. 811 Peny M Carter W, B. 906 Hugh Bayne . Barker RADIO CALL SHEET ^- Vr-i':i-lB COHPUlo7«f Addrcaa whi work perfomcil ,1... ^QO Address wb*r« p\; rscords kepc Addftaa wberc No. of wofk pcrfofBMd. ^plaTeea Addcvaa ^wfa record* kept _»_ Qcr. Wa«ea: 19 Uc Q I- _ 19 2ftdQ$- Eocef below aay odicr iafocmatioa iHkich taay a|>ply () other aM»ea ond«( whicb worked; (b) ocber social avcority B^abcr; (d) cbc enpLoyer'a plant ataUwr; (e) sMae o| the dApar^^M; (f) occopacks: Baoibera oacd; (A) b«dfe or clock bi Lf^i^r-tuy \ i WBA aod MBA iacocrect becuiae _ ( 1 Other 7. Tlw ttbove fftcu are tnae to tbe ^ beat of mj ksvwl«afe nd beli*lira Docancsu Aa>£kc^^Jt . - H U penMD, eftttf dote fUcd 7* '^ i 9. R«^yZ -'C-^ ^/?^/) fu} (-'J^ na-/^c <^i'^?^ I 15. REMARK5: Give below any additional information on any of iteios 111, particularly iton 10. which requinr further explanati 16. 1 hereby regitter for work and claim unemployment inmraoce benefits. I am uQcmplayed, able to work and available for work, ex cept aa itaied hereon. I have been infonnnl that I mu&t report ai directed to the State Employment Scrvke office to continue my rcgistratiun for work and ray claim for benefits. I undenund that the law prescribes penalties for false sutements made for the purpose of obtaining benefits not due or of incrcasii^ benefits. I hereby certify that uw statcmexits made in connection with this claim are true to the best of my knowlec^ and bdief. , / NOTE: Do WH : 17 CUimant— In case of mail claim, obtain agnatore of notary, or ctgnatares and addresMS of two adult HuNLEY Exhibit No. 2 —Continued '44-731 O— 64— vol. XX 15 205 ^ f CONTINUED INTERSTATE CLAIM z 7 Budc»1 Bor««u No. 44-RlOIM.I LOin5XANA-19 Claimant: Plcsac do not i ie ID this box Flexible Week 1. NAME: _: ^^ iPtIWI t< MAILING I 0TJI Q] UCFE Q UCX ADDRESS: ^^-^ /'^'^ .- yC^ Liable Sute Si-'^Ia!L,.t.^ (St. or Ruml Rout«> . yiyt' L f'/C^^^/y~ S Loaisiana 6. Wecli Ending Dale , 7. Week Ending Date ^^'i^ : last w«li? [^ Ya Q"^" ^^' 7 ' /J Actual date claim taken: Q Female :!>.(s) claimed m #6 and ^7 above, did you work or ear wages of any kind? FH Yc$ If "yes", himith the information below for each day ou worked. EMPLOYER-NAME AND ADDRESS GROSS PAY AMOUNT Reason for separation from : 1 showc above; Lack ol work V~\ Other* P"! 10. For the weck(s) claimed in #6 and ^7 above, bow much did you 11. For the week(s) dilnted Aborc la #6 tnd #7: recciTe in inoMne in the fonn o^. a. Earnings £rom Klf-cmploTment? a. Were you fully able to work? |P| Yes No. b- Commission payments? y c. Wage* in lieu of notice? b. Were you available for work? [Tf Yet QNC d. Dismissal or severance pay? c. Dj(l you rriuse any jobs offered you? ["] Yes* e. Vacation pay? f. Holiday pay? d. Did you attend school? F"! Yes* g. Tips and gratuities? h. i. Board, or room, or both? Railroad retirement benefits? c. Did you work on a farm? Q Yes* 0No , ). Social Security (OASI)? f. Did you work on a coramisaion basis? T~\ Yes* •^ k. Pension from former employen including government and armed forces? g. Were you self-employed? V~\ Yes* 1. Workmen's compensation? m. Veterans education and training or h. Did you receive, or arc you seeking subsistence allowance? benefits under any _gthcr State or n. Educational Assistance Allowance Federal unemployment insurance law? f"! Yes* under the War Orphans ka. 19&6? For any amount entered in #10, show in #15 REMARKS, the period covered by payment and onployer name and address if ippUcable. 12. Use L. O. sump or enter L. O. Addrca and No. 13. For use of liable Sace OlViiiON Of tMPLOV%U'if 3tCUKfn , -^0 CAMP STRtT.T i.iitefctOKLU.NS 12. LOUISIANA Point Locatioo Report every . •CLAMS TAKIR: bplatai ea Iocb IB-II, lad nwUag R^Mt HuNLEY Exhibit No. 3 206 H. During th< pcnod covered b> this claim, explain whsf you have liv to tind wnrk List empluytn. labor n» and other places cuntactrd Places Conucted Type of Work Soughi Rnulti ^/^^gl /V/^u^.^: A .^/yfiT/yiy <:^--/<^^- ^^ tJ/^^T-,^^ f-r^ />yf, •»,/,. y ^4^^3_ -(^f:> (- Wcx^ UXf fAy f./f^y^-^. fi .^^'^-•7 aa '/;? 77,r /J^- i^tJtA '^>^3{ /L^-: iialed hereon. 1 have been infonued thai 1 must report as directed to the State Employmeni Service office to statements made for the ' ' ' registralion for work and ray claim for benefits. I understand that the law prescribes ^ altxcs for false ' f increasing benehts. 1 hereby certify that Ac sutements made in connection with this knowledge and belief. .NOTE: Do . do ! J^^ .^.^^^. CUbtuot'i »l«iwtur») 17. Claimant— In ctte of mail cLairo, obtain ttgnature of notary, or sgpaatures and addi (1) Signature and address . (2) Signature and addroB 18. 1 Itereby witncM the signature M this claimant and certify that he hat met the HUNLEY Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 207 Pom IB- 14 Budget Barau No. 44-RI004.r Kr 1-61 INTERSTATE REQUEST fiK RECONSIDERATION LOUISIANA— 19 OF MONETARY DETERMINATION ^/.'^ H. CiSW.^LD ? SSA 2. LOCAL MAILING ADDRESS. 7»'7 M 4. (Bin Liable Sl>H - ] UCFE UCX ¥^zU^~6 3 Mooctuy decermia*tiaD otber social security i bets used; used; (a) or clock tiui (^ badge of r; (e) DSAe of t^ufciber, fd) tbc ecoployet's plant Qumber; tbe dipar^eot; (f) occopatioa. of tbediparuaei ^sPU'-l^.t:^ f^-^f^-^ldX -t- \ VBA aod MB^ 1 Other 7. The aboTC facts are c best of my knowledge and belli'.,f^ -4..^ // c^^^^uj- Title aod Date oi 8. Documents Attacked fE^Ycs No Doc tan eatta Attached y^' date filed 9. Request filed If by mail, ei r poscmark dace _ and leceipc dace . 10. i;«e L.O. scamp or enter L.O. addteaa and No. DIVISION Uf IMPLOyP/itNI StCURITT y~\\ rikLL^\o li, LOlflsiANA Disrribuctoa: OtigiiMl add one Co liable iatersb copy (o claiauuit; copy fat agcDi acace local < HxJNLEY Exhibit No. 4 208 w^^^r^T^ ^m y j^^'if"iiyi vj ^ ^ ' m w ii'^ - dJMmimmBMM^iiyr'7yr'ryr. {? HuNLEY Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 209 CONTINUED DSTKRSTATE CLAIM ^ J BudfCI Bureau No LOUIS lAi f. r laimani- PkatT dO IVOt «rr ir in thu bni Flexible Week 1. NAME: .^__ "^1 r '> V z? (Prmii (Pint •i. LOCAL MAILING .^-r'^V ADDRESS: A-^^ .^^ / re,J /'/f/f>^>i^5 LOU15 6 Week EiidinK Dale Have you mo^rd since last week? PI Yes ["^^Nu T Week Ending Dale _ ' 7- z:^ V :3" « Aiiual date claim taken: J^lale Female ^} During ihc wr;\,i) ct;iimcd in )ip6 and #7 above, did you work orc^rn wages of any kiiidr FH \t\ [m No If •>«»'. funiuh ihc inlorrnaiion below (or each dav voii worked. EMPLOYER-NAME AND ADDRESS GROSS PAY AMOINT , shown above: I-ifk uf ^ D D II For the weck(s) claimed above in #6 and #7: J Earnings from seU-employment? a Wtrr suu fullv able to work" g Ye5 b Commission paymenu? ( Wages in lieu o( notice? b Were you available for work.' k\. Disinissjl or severance pay? ( Did vou refuse am jobs offered ( Holiday pa\> d. Did \ou attend sch.Hil.: g lips and gTJtuitin? h. I\oJrd. or rn..ni. or both? c Did vou work on a farm-' 1, Railroad retirement benefits? J Social Security (OASI)? f Did >ou work on a (oiimussior k. Pension fmrn former employen including govcmmcnt and armed forces? g Were ^ou self tmplo\ed? I Worlonen's compensation? \\\. Veterans education and training or h. Did vou receive, or are vou seeking subsistence allowance? benefits under any other St; n Educaiional Awistance Allowance Federal unemployment Insur under (he War Orphans Act 1956? ntered in # 10. show in # 15 REMA^ , the period covered by payment and cmplover i 12 L'se 1-. O stamp or enter L. O Address and No. 13. For use of liable Sute Plices Conucied Type ot Work Sough i J'J'/A -^^'r r^'A,T(r\ C5 f^'"^0/trl ,7%r/ y-^r^-y^^-'^ (>/'A<>er //i'Q:/uC7 ->^ i\^2i^ ^y /• j^ 15. REMARKS: Give below any additional infonnaUQn on any of items 111, particularly item 10, which require further explatutitm. I hereby register (or work and claim unernplovtiient insutance benefits. 1 am unemployed, able to work and available for work, ex- cept as siatrtl liercun. 1 h.ive been informed that 1 must report as directed to the State Employment Service office to continue my rcKislration for work and my claim for benefits. I undei^taod that the law prescribes penalties for false statements made for the purpose of obtaining benefits not due or of increasing benefits. 1 hereby certify that the sutesnents made in connection with this claim are tnie to the best of my knowledge and belie^ y^// d^^ .^^ZCCtelmftDt'a algnatui 17. CUinunt— In oue of mail claim, obuin tignature of notary, or signacuro and addresaes of not related to you. (1) Signature and addreia „__ ^ (2) Signature and addren , 10. I faer^y witnns the tignature of this claimant and crrtify thai hr has mei (i HuNLEY Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 211 ^l^ u INTERSTATE CLAIM SUPPLEMENT __^^ « n ,. „ .^ ^ .^^^ yy. ^. ^^^^^^^^^^.^B^-j-^^^^^X'^f'-^y' I l>'- >.M1 ll.<\> ,l> fll 1. V.iur 1^1 1.. VViih i.h KIMASV IK) N(tT WltlTK t).\' THIS SIMK KAi*T K1M>IN<; HKl't 11.-U of IH-ll wh.-n riitrtfft i.n t>i.- otht- 1 certify ihrtt Ih*' ftlMiv^ U iriu- iind cnn>ct lo Ihf b*-*! K>t my knoWlH<1|{«>. OlalmantR Si^iiaturv U*. KXAMlNKft'H STATKMK.N'T »i>*>«crlbf liK-al iRtxjr market ctmditionn retatinr to the claimant's LK:c-uptition ami vftiKf d«mund. i'omment un utl t^ntrie^ im the ulhtr MUte of this frwm which affect claimant's reemployment or reriuJr^ ctarlflcation. AUu cvaiu- Hte Ktiilfmfnt in llt-nt 11, if any.j X^ /L-^ ^/^.^a^ti^ ET HuNLEY Exhibit No. 6 — Continued 213 CONTINUED INTER8TA1E CLAIM LOUISlANA-19 OftimaBC name * Flexible Week Z. LOCAL MAILING ADDRESS: V<-V. /v-> /) j^ . \m. or Kami Bant) /Jtr-.-C c'H/C>Ai Louisiana Have you moved since lut week? pi Yes [^Male Q Female 9. During the weck(s) claimed in #6 and #7 above, did you wort or cam wages of any Und/ r~| U "yes", furnish (he information below {or each day you worked. M OutiRK thr peritxi covered b> (his cUim, explain what you tuvc dofir to lind work Liit cmpkiyrrs, Ubor PUc« Cunucicd Type of Woik Sought t-'^' '^''^Z^.- ?J0S- -U. ry- //^ ^^^>y^/ /y^/^<'^J^r^/A\ .: . .. -^ ^'^^ Cxf^/ /M>/:- .^ /e^ A- ^ --- ^Y^ ^^/Cy M^/^ iy,^<.i£/C fid J/'tty ^MA. 'S2/:^ jML ^^^^l^L. £jMJjIM^^ ^""^^1 % 'fijff'c/ 13 RKMARKS: Give below any addluooat inforraauun yn any oi ilcps ru, p«rticuJar)y item 10. whicfa forther expbiiution. require forth w yt^jt-LX- - ^ y -- /'jr ^/?7. 16 I hcrrbv regixrr (or work and claim unnT)plc»in«ni iniurance benefits. I am unemployed, able to work and ftvaiUble for wort, ex ie(>i as Btaicd hereon I h^ve been infomoKl fha{ I must report as dirrcted to the State EmployiDeni Serrice officr to omttnue my rrxiitraimn for wcirk and my claim for bencfitv I underhand that the law pmcribet penalties for fcU»e atatements made for the putf)i.*e of obtaining bencfiis iiot due or of increasing bencftts. I hereby certify that tne tfatementi made in connection with thi» tljitn arc true lo the best of my knowledge and beliel. ^ / A A ^'r/ /^ .^^-f-t^/^ i; CUimani-ln case of mati claim, obtain signarure of nocaiy, kx signatures and addrencs of two aduh witncwa not related to you. tl) Signature and addreai .. . . .,, i2) Signature and addren 18. 1 hereby wtuie« the lignaiure of thij claimant and certify that he has m«t the^t^ia^^Hb^acuytcportiog reqi GMnm tafear'* maatn*) 7 HUNLEY Exhibit No. 7 — Continued 215 W-25 »wqld informed u" thn t he would taVe out a moytgago on hi* oar 13 for »200 and ^end thi" money to. un the f ©''lowing day. 14 15 On 6/"'4, client wap neen in thl» office, ard at fir-t balked at 6/14/62 16 using the money sent by hi«' brother, ^e preferred that this money 17 be returned to hi« brothar, and that we advance the nxsnsy for trans- 18 portation expenses, and he would repay u" when he is able. 6 19 •k^rtSS'wt*!* i%a interview of administrator on 6/14/62) 20 21 client agreed to una his brother's money for his fare, "ve went •^•fter 22 to the office manager and pdoked up the money order received nAde 23 out to ^e Oswald. 24 25 We escorted ^r, O^^^ia to the "^entern ^^nion offioe 428 ^roadway, 26 who issued *150 and gave client a check made out for *50, to be 27 cashed at the Ist national baWc on "roadway and ^nal. ''e then 28 escorted client to the i«t National Bank, where after fir-t being 29 told that they eould not cash the oheolc eventually agreed at the 30 bank ndnager' 8 insistence that they could cash it. Client was 31 issued $50. 32 33 ^orker then wont with client to the ^est ide '^irl ine- 'terminal and 34 boruRht two tickets previously reserved for flight 821, ^lt« •'^irlinew, 35 to ^t. ^roth '^e'lss. ^s were informed that ?he plane would land in 36 Dallas, which is right next to ^t. Worth. 37 38 ^©rker and client then Tient to ^imes Square Hote"" -^bbre client 39 paid his bill, went to his roca to pick up hi-^ wife and baggage and 40 infant, and mat worker in the lob'Ky. ^ this point he had 5 pieces 41 of luggage. orker, who ^H^ had seen client with 7 p44oos the 42 day before, asked o'^iert what had happened to the other two pieces, 43 had ho informed us that he had sent them on ahead, railway express. 44 W© helped client and his fauiily and hi" baggage to the street -jrhere 45 wo took a taxi to the SSAL^ and checked ciisit's luggage and then 46 escorted oloiit to the ^e^ta Airlines building at Idl'swild, remaining 47 with '^. "swald until he boarded his plane at 4si5 P-1. orker then 48 returned to ^wr ^o^k itjr. 49 50 6/26/62 51 On this date a sumiAry was preapred to be sent to tato ^o partaenrt 52 of Social elflire. * memo t*s submitted to i^sd. Aud . requesting 53 reimbxjTsemflnt for *3.50 inc. expenses expended on this ca^e by 54 worker who e« oorted olient to the airport. 55 Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 216 VV-2S (Rev. I/IO/S1)-1200M-808071(61) ^^^ 114 THE CITY OF NEW YORK HISTORY SHEET DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE 2 6/27/62 'fo raoonasnd thatihln oa«e be olowad, client vrtin transported to 3 hi* home on 6/14/62. / 4 • 5 6 7 J 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 .18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 '34 ' 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 •46 47 48 49 50 51 52 S3 54 55 Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 217 \Vi5.(RtV 1/10/S1)-1200M 808071(61) HISTORY SHEET W-iS (RcT. 1/10/S1)-UOOM-80807I(61> .^^.114 THE CITY OF NEW YORK HISTORY SHEET DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE CAGE NAMB BASIC CAGE NUMBER 6/li)/62 (contd.) 1 We gave Miss Elliott the information regard ine the flight and departure 2 time .and arrival time in Texas, obtained from the Unit. 3 4 KiSs Elliott said that the Health, '^ducation and Welfare office is v/iring 5 ahead to the local public assistance agency informing them that should 6 Mr. Oswald apply for assistance any funds expended in his care are 7 federally reimbursable under the Repatriation Program, Any assistance ex- 8 tended will not create difficulties for his wife with the Innigration 9 authorities. 10 11 It will be necessary for I-lr. Oswald to use his brother's funds for his 12 return' transportation. 13 14 This information was ahared'with Mr. Oswald, He was not completely 15 satisfied with the decision but accepted it and accepted the fact that 16 at this point the wisest course he could pursue was to prepare hliiself 17 and his family for the return flight today, 18 >19 20 21 cJ^atyT Ruscoll, •Administrator 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 ,34 '35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 so' 51 52 53 54 /m!LJ!!:';'"ja.!W" 55 Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 219 PATFi h^ II. I am applying for public assistance or care becausei III. We declare that we own or have owned the following assets: (Check either "yes" or "no" in every item.) Yes No No Life Insurance Any Other Insurance ... Interest in Estates Automobile or Truck - Real Property - - - • Union Membership - Mortgages — Mortgage Certificates Lodge Membership • Lease on Real Property Judgments — Claims — Law: Bank Account or Cash Safe Deposit Box Stocks or Bonds ... ... Pensions or Allotments Business Interest Other Assets We further declare that we have or have had any income from the following: (Check either "yes" or "no" in every item.) Yes No Yes No Employment ..... Relatives and Friends (cash or kind) - Court Orders .... Social Security Benefits Lodger Boarder --..-• .... Unemployment Insurance Benefits Railroad Retirement Benefits Boarder-Lodger Veteran Benefits .... State Sickness Disability Benefits - . Railroad Unemployment Benefits Workmen's Compensation - Other Have you transferred or assigned property in order to qualify for Public Assistance? We will give all required informafiort to the represenfatives of the Department of Welfare relating to our financial circum- stances such as earnings and other income and resources, as well as information concerning our relatives and tfieir ability to assist us. We will inform the representatives of the Department of any changes in our needs and resources which occur following this application. We authorize the Department of Welfare to institute any investigation to verify statements made by us, pertain- ing to resources of any member of the family, including information concerning OASI benefits and age.* "Any person who by means of a false statement or representation, or by deliberate concealment of any material fact, or by Impersonation or other fraudu- he Is not entitled, or a larger amount thereof than lent device, obtains or attempts to obtain, or aids or abets any person to obtain public assistance or care to which that to which he is Justly entitled, or does any wilful act designed to Interfere with the proper administration of public assistance and care, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, unless such act constitutes a violation of a provision of the penal law of the Sule of New York, In which case he shall be punished In accordance with the penalUes fixed by such law." (L.1950, c.293, eff. March 30, 1950.) WITNESS SIGNATURE OF APPLICANT (Where signature is by mark "X", it should (Family members 18 years of age" and over who are be witnessed) liousehold mus 'ipo/fn 'household must also sign) * First person singular understood throughout where only one person signs. •— Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX- 16 221 W-901A' ReT. J/23/S9 soM.«..jno36(60).^>ii4 THE CITY OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF WELFARE INTAKE INTERVIEW I. Welfare Center Date of First nterview I Case Name O^^^V-'^VrV \-^^r^-. Address "^T*. tU<: S ^>'. W. (,,' ^ U. ^->- V Person(s) Interviewed \U vT O S^C CI' Vf^' II. Referred by: Self Other fjpec(fy;__X_01.^2 ^^ | | \£A I I Cfieck box, if First Application. Reason for Last N.A, Closing or Rejections. REASON FOR APPLICATION (Record information supplementary to that in Section II of the Application for Public Aisisiance III. or Requestfor Care.) ^V^<^- \s^^^^-^. -frrrx^ ^S^ ^ ,^^^^^^^^_Jl_ ^ U_._ IoljC to cJI-<-w*J2]^_.^ Vi^LiA-^^/ (Lo iS^cJ^ b ^ . ^ n: [[u^i^^^.s ^ IV. AaiON TAKEN I I Rejected Date I I Written Notification given to Applicant I I Mailed I I Deferred Date Date(s) of Subsequent Scfieduled Interview(s) . Lij Accepted for Field Investigaflon-kiLSikl^ate. T^l Regular -- I I Urgent 1^1 Emergency Reason for "Action Taken"i Budget computed on Family Budget Work Sheet and Enclosed I I Yet I I No Has Investigation Process Been Explained to Applicant? I ^1 Yes I I No If "No", Explains Eligibility Pamphlet Issued by Appointment Interviewer | | Intake Interviewer Copy of Instructions to Applicants Issued. I I Yes | | No '^ Signature of Intake Interviewer V. INFORMATION FOR INVESTIGATOR (Applicant's Absence from Home on a Specific Date and Reason; Any Special Directions Needed to Contact Applicant in His Home; efc.^ Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 222 VI. FOR WHOM APPLICATION IS BEING MADE (Record the name of the eligible payee and his dependents for each type of public assistance and check the appropriate box on the same line.) NAME jOMkU-S11036(60) m^^IM VIII. HOUSING DATA AND LIVING ARRANGEMENTS Apartment, Room or Floor No. IX. MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT (Includo past and present maintenance, any change in the tiluaiion precipitating the nsed for this apolicalion and any immediate problem with which the applicant is faced.) O o* C£ji_ ^^-^^^^tJ^Z^ is*^-SL'«^^*w-*«c?usis«*,i<**a^ Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 230 Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 —Continued . XVII. HEALTH (Record Information about problomt related to the health of any member of the applicant group.) XVIII. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (Record such information pertinent to need or eligibHity and to an understanding of the applicant's situation not recorded elsewhere. Also record results of supervisory or consultant conferences as necessary.) am*t''Lit''-P'p''»"WBw....www.iij..ii.»»'n.i..^ Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 — Isaacs Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 231 '«partm«ni of W«lfo Bureau of R«sourco nd L*goI S«fvic«s RESOURCE SUMMARY t^jN^ ^ Man's First Name Woman's First Name M>3(4.-1_ Osu^^^Vd} L< "SScaoCl Others (in household) No. in Health Aga Varificotion Family G>nditia for All over Ag» 65 LIFE INSURANCE: Ag. Fothar Stotod Data Mother Li Kind of Foe. Paid Son Lo Company Policy No Policy Volu* Policy Amount ate. Wai -^0>vj2^ UNION BENEFITS: » Entered Book Official No Date of of Union Last Payment Nome and Address Date of of Local Secretory Initiotioi 'lame and Address t[ >f Last Employer Periods of ^fK^ Badge or Employment Identification No. Reason for Loss >f Lost Employment GROUP INSURANCE: Group No. Name of Employer or Union It Appeors on Group Policy FRATERNAL ORGANIZATIONS: Nome of Orgonizotion nd Address of Secretary Nome of Member ^^^4^ Dote of Lost Payment s: Isaacs Exhibit No. 2 Isaacs Exhibit No. 2 232 REAL PROPERTY, MORTGAGES, MORTGAGE CERTIFICATES, LEASES, ETC.i Nomo of Owner Address and Nature of Property fo M'c^^Cr Departsent of Social Welfare Area 6 (Ne« York City Office) ., MEMORANDUM \j^ / tor. NY(^8 (i^ajir -rin1rt1n s . rlcht ia ca rc;crJlc33 c;_t;.a his oypllcatloi pcsdlzj SsTlct C» vvi;i.:nT,t .' • Iv- *.•_.-.- . •-- operation of Sanctions tnjcsed ty Section 2U3(b) o* tha T Sosiigration ssd Nationality Act In Caso of liro» Karlna H« Oswald - . .!;.•.;• It hna coza to the attention of SOV that In cnprovinrr tho - '. ; ., ;•'* .petition jyantin? Vjtc, Karina tl, Oo^nld nor.-r,-aoti status ttto " ' •'• :'.' '.. • •- - San Antonio Dictrlct Offico of III3 did not includo a vaivcr of • ;.. ,;. tho sanction against tho issuance of tho vion Irposod "by ' V ,; , ' ' . •. ' ."" ' Section 2U3Cr) ot ths Irminration end Kationallty Act. It would, ' ' *. therefore, bo noccsacxy for lira, Oo;:ald to proceed to a tlilrd •. •.> country and thoro apply for a United States vica instead of ]] ". ; • . receiving a viaa at iloacow uhcn her husband. Lea Ilr-nrcy Oc.iald, • .?..". la docusiontcd for a rottou to tho US as an Ancrican citizen. ' Leo Harvey Osvald is en American eitlson ^*io defect Cd Itoa ' ".• ' . tha US and decided to rcoido pcnnancctly in tho Soviet Union. ;' llthour^ he nado kncm to tho Er.baacy hia orif^al intention to ,, renounce Arurlcan citiscnship, ho never completed tho fcrr.alitica, • ;y-; When he bcccne diolllusiorad with life in the Soviet Union, ho requested pascport facilltico to return to tho US, After duo eon- " ddcratlon- tho Passport Offico nado the decision thit Osuald la' **' still ^n Assrlenn citisen; tho ErJbassy has been outhorizod to issue . - ' \.' Mm a pasqport for return to tho US; and SC3 has authorizcfl a loan y - of $500 to enable hla to travel to the US vith his Soviet idfo and . recently bom child, • ••- . • ' * ..'..' . • . . SOV boiloYCS it is in the interest, of th* US to get Lee Harvpy Oswald and hlo faaily out of the Soviet Union and on their way to this country as soon as poselblc. An unstable dinroetcr, ' • ^039 actions aro entirely unpredictable, Oc;rald cay veil rofusc to -.'-'.'. Icava the USSR or oubcoquontly attempt to return thcro if wo dhould ., . '*.' ; sako it Inpossible for hln to bo acconpanied fron Koseow by his wife .' • and child* "".' > Such action on our part also would pomit tho Soviet Oovcrnnciit . . :- '_ to ar^Q that^ althou;^ it had issued an ezit visa to Mrs, Ccuald to • • '• i»rcvcnt tho ceparatlon of a fanily, tho United States Oovcj-irrcnt had inposod a farced separation by rofnsinjj to issue her a visa. Obviously, this vould weaken our Eifcasiy'a position in cncoura;»inj '• positivo Soviet action in other cases Involviog Soviet citizen rolatlvod of US eltizeis. • ,ir ( • .-- . • \' .' ' • -. • • " .•',' '•. - -.'.^''.'^^'.^'i ''- : . ' ^-W-.";-' •••• ;v'v ...::"- ''. ^,'i:-A-' '-.: :-':: OFFICIAL USE onur • • : ;' '. James Exhibit No. 2 :i 236 • -2 . OFPICTAL USE ©ILT Alao to bo considered la tho fact thnt vo ha-vo nrantod a loon' of t^QO, sufflcLont only to brinr tiio fonUy to }tou Yoi'^. Thcro Is • strong pooaibllity that a llcv Torlc or other velfare agency will hfivo tosupport tho fonily durinet 'a otop-ovi r In Kcw loric and pay for their onvnrd travel to Texas oince Osvnld only has a totaX fund of $700. A dotour to • third country would require additional Onited St»to8 funds, . SOT reconmends thot IKS be asked to rocnnsjdar' on an ur;^cnt basis its deoision rosarding tho 2U3(e) vaivcr for ^lrs• Oswald. Jn Tiew of the foreRoin(», it is recorjncnded that a telegram be sont to the fbhasoy at Kosoou adviainf;: it to witlthold action of V0*8 reeont OH on tho subject 0PERATI0:i3t Case of Mrs* Marina H« Oswald. In this oozmoction^ tho ii:iabsssy*'s VIROH Mo. 2li3U of Kerch 1$ which asked when a decision on tho petition and vaivcr could be ex- , pectedf apparently was raotivated in part by the fact that Oswald is using up his funds while awaiting doounoctation. : .SURtSOTiVilJaiMSiitp ' '• . ' -^ V'^*-. ' "^ •: OPnCIAL USS ONLY James Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 744-731 0-64_vol. XX 17 237 I »«^o-l^&}"^^" Depar^nneiiLt of State . ' . . cirtrrrrftT. n^'? r^Ti.T FROM: KOSCCW . TOs Saorctarr of Stat* ^^^ ,Dcj>artsssnt*» C:i\r»45 243(C> valvar P1C363 advlco'wbcn daclsion oa petition and Ico Oswald vlfo cay b« cxpcctQd, .'. •-';": ".!.''• ;;'.; ..;• '.'".'KCSUEsnEX •••.• -."V :ii--- -.-.1 ! \ ;,J - . • -•WRODUCTIONIItOMTMIS /.;f: V - . emCL''l. USE CrLY coi-r IS PROHiciTjo UNUSS •'MNCLASSiriEO-' James Exhibit No. 3 238 JSr '11 (2.) s^^ 9CA . Hr, KiohOl CiepUnoki ;. YO'- . Mr. Kobcrt r* Halo ••*.•.'';;,. Xknleront Vica. Caso of Kro* Ktrlna ff. OJ-iALD, Tbcro is attr.chcd tha Vica Offico Til/s in tho case of tho Abovo>ttarK)d alien, in3lu;lin:: a letter r^xaTtcd for your Giijaaturo to tko Cosd.ccicr^.J' of IrrdcJ^tloa and JiituralisAtlon anri '•.•'. •;.•• ' . a prioriV tclocraa to tho Ii:^o:7 at I^scovr, yiVQ* ternXd, n=3 Karixv* JTlcholtcvna Prusalrava, born •luXy 17, 1SU»1 at MolotOTc!:, tr;:icn of Cc^ict S-::5isliot ncpublicn, I.5 ths wlfo , of Leo Tfcurrcy Cc-J-rOd, Kp, Gr^ald, vho wr.o torn Octc'^or 1I3, 152? at.Hctf Orlcar-a, icfcotcd to tho CcTlct Ualca in Cotctcr 1W9, c?iortly fiftar connlottr^ a tlwco-ycar cnlictncr.t in tho United St-tca lUrino Corps* Althca:^ a report frcn t!«s Fcdcnl Surc-'u of Irr/coti2?.tica (ccntilccd in tho fllo) stated ho ^^-x'3 hnd no knc-.-n ccntaat with tho Cczrruniot Par^ of ivn::rica u-A t^ cuT.tn no 7n*c2livltiC3 for ccmunisn, ho otatcd to tho Jbbaosy at lIocccM tJuit ho IntcrJcd to bccc=o a Ccviot na^tlcnsl ani to rcv=nl to tho ScTlct autJioritico all t^^ iniorri-itioa . ho could about hia trainiiv: !« tho Il.-rir.o Corps as a ra/Iio cpcratcr. Jfr. «nrt ?iro« Csri&ld vzro ncrricd April 3'3» 19^1 *^ prcsontly rcsldo at Ilinc!:, vhcro a cliild vaa rcccnUy hem I'r. Gr-ald hr.3 nou to thrra* bocono dldllaoiorjal *;ith life in t!xo IV.lon of Soviet SooLollct RcpublLco and viel:03 to rotum to this oci;nti7 vith his fsaily. . This offico rcT^ilcrod an opinion on Ctetcbor 3» l^^l t.\it Kr3» Oc^Ald'o caco cculd bo concixJcrcd ur.drr tho pro'.-lciona of Section 212{a)(20)(I)(i) of tho Irr.lc:rr.Uon a«a .^tlcn.^lit:/ Act ia that her noribrrchip la tho Scrlct Tr^o Cnlon for "cdic^l .-.'cr'.rr'ro coiild bo ocr.ridcrod lrrolcr.tar7» Tho ?scz7::rt Offico hao rcn^Icrcd en oplnioa that yjr» Orjrsld h^o cot crpatrlfvtcd iiir_-;2lf cnrZ n-.y bo ian-i a pn.co- port for hla rctsra to tho U!nltcd Stitoo. Tho Offico of ui^coial Ccrv- cuLv Corvicco bso authorised a repatriation Ic-^n to Itr. 0-.*ald» Tho ScTlet anthoritica biva icsricd czlt dccirrmtatloa to Hra. O-xtld and havo indicated that such docintr.trvtioa will bo icccod to Ilr. Ctarald . ttpoa oo:;plotion of his travol plans* HojrcTcr, tho S?r. tetcnio District Offica of tho I-rd'-raticn and 2at?a:alisatloa Scrvico tns nxj rcplicrl to tho Virrx CrXico that, , vMJLo it bao apprcTCi tho pctitlcr. c^r.tlnj: Hr:;* Ccnld ncr.7:ot-a etctasao an izi^li^rint, it trill not trdvo tho c-r^tiorj; i:rp::-:?d xrAor tho prsTidcna of Scotlon Z'Oin) of tho /ot a^dr.-t th.o i::r:^?T:eo of , * , ; 4=3lcrsat visao in tho Ssvtot lihlca* An (^ioraticno 2!c=;orrjrfur» vaa "" ,7'- "j-i-.-.^- '.."*' '-"^ t-^v. ,• • *' . • „',,-i- .•'•> '"T" "" TcTuaxxled •;'.' "^ • James Exhibit No. 3-A 239 CCWFIPENTTAL •2- for.KirtIcd to tho Eribacry contnlnins that InTorr-Titlon and pslntlng out th2.t Itro. Or..'?xld vould thorcToro bo roqxdrcd to apply, for her visa in a third coiaitxy. S07 hao new rc3C=r.t3lcd that tho Dcprjrtccnt rccjuost Irrlrration arf naturalisatlcn Service to rc3cnr.idcr its refusal to volvo tho caraticoo. Tho letter to III*. Farroll end tho tolccraa to Ko^cu hav« thcrofore bsca drafted for your ci^naturo. Attaohscatt ••.-:. .: TifiA (jtffiod fUb oalKariim N. p1 Oswald. eoi SC7 « !!l30 Jcrioo PPT - I-aso Kni£ht SC3 • Kino Van Cott \8aiV0:JECrunpjdJb 3/20/62 . ' .,'-'-ii" : • i COHFIDEWTTAL Jambs Exhibit No. 3-A— Oontinuefl 240 ' ' .* UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ('/ -«-—«-.,• IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION SERVICE ;. ; i Washington 29. D.C . y// / ^ -2 ^^^ .VISA OI'Pl;'l_ -wrote the Assistant Director of the Visa Office that he declined V;.to valve In Mrs. Osvald's case the sanctions against the issuance of immigrant visas in th? Soviet Union ir-posed pursuant to ': Section 2l^3(g) of the Immigration and nationality Apt. Your " ' •• letter states that preventing I-lrs. Oswald from accompanying her .'- •f .- husband «md child to the United States would weaken the attempts ' ,'/ of the Embassy in Moscow to encourage positive action by the Soviet authorities in other cases involving Soviet relatives of __ ., . . United States citizens. Your letter rIso states that waiviiy; of ' ; .. - «aDctlons in behalf of Mrs. Oswald would bo In the best Interests •^r- of- the United States, • • r . •, In view of the strong representations made in your letter of • • ' >brch 27» 19<32, you are hereby advised that sanctions imposed "purstiant to Section 21*3 (g) of the Immigration ond Rationality Act aro hereby vaiyed. in behalf of Mrs. Oswald. S^cerely yours, '\-... . ; Robert H. PvOblnson ^U II iVl/ li Av.. u.-.; . Deputy Associate Commissioner •' - Travel Control ^^ James Exhibit No. 4 241 k:co:.1!:^g telegram Department of ^f^/2EHMAN£NT record copy 37 Action VO. Info FROM: Moscow UMTTED OFFICIAL USE ^ Seoretary Of State yrrr. - <6'" EU& ^^' ^7) .ax^^A'--^ h, t^\ Decision needed soonest on re-con8ldera£rbn~243 (iTO PCT-rald. Husband for some tine has known visa petition- Approved, telephones and writes Enbasoy. frequently to find out reason delay* We deemed it unwise discuss •'.243 (G) problem as long as waiver still possible, but find it increasingly awkward put Oswald off. -;•'-..- — •*•• '"7"^' --• 'THOMPSON '.;.! MEM 0) Omission* Correction to follow. *-.:. tiLJU^/^^. A^u^.J'MS (iJiJdd'c^. aJ»J A^Jf h -^^ 0-Tr"\TIONS AND M^ ^^^ * This copy must be returnedttr!TTy^n!JLgSS^y^^ sinr.h not^y^^ DUCT] OMJHIS COPY IS ^ 'y ;;CA S SI F IEO . ' *««l8NCO TO. MAMC Of orrtccM OATC O* (OinCCTIONt • erricc »v«»«oc ACTION TO WM/W James Exhibit No. 5 242 K r-i j;;.^..:J.:-::4:-:;1:J;v * -• • • * T ! . >;- :r.H*tH»h 27, .1962 y J ai»i?i«»fcs*i^ Poar Mr* FarrwUi Tho oaeo of >tr3« Harina II. P, Ocifald has boon broucht to ty attention* Mro* Or-mld ia tha wlfo of 7tr. Leo Itirvoy Os-.;.ild, an /Horioan eltlson» and lo applyins for An Imicrnnt vicv at tho • Enbanoy at IjOcoow, Slio boo boon CT'^^ntcfl oxLt docuncntatlon \t/ tho Sovlot outhorltloo and tho rhbicsy ia prripAroi to consldor hor oaso under tho provlolono of Sootion 212(a)<23}(I)(i) cC tho Inrdcrfttion . ' and Rationality /*_ «™™ -^ , *i Department of State- wiROM I : •1^ •• DBPARTI-IEMr ' . C I • » » I f I « • t J • • im -V . 5i> ACnONi Ameoibacsgr KOSCCV (iro/ ^ :'• r^:'.'-'i.-i^lj:>-'-iy'v-^ : •• \i,''' ^.'•.. •v •i'Tvf.-,:--:! ;•' : : .. f' , . Vaivtr 2<»3 (s}8anotioa granted ly INS. fiod. i :v IV-i;!- ^.•: 'BM-^ '.' I.:. :. Y QSrfALD, Marina H. P. - JSOIT '• Kiss Janes. (toloj^otdoaXXj') •cnnoucnoN rtOM tmis co^ s .: ;> LDOTED CFFICIAL USE raCMItlTCO UNlUt "UNOASiiritO" C i • t •. i f i e • 1 1 o A i:^ Main 'An,*. •e*«iMMmr mmtum erria. km—•• Tames Exhibit No. 7 245 ^OUTGOING r^N '• \r- Department ofCOState,. ' . wiROM ' I' / i ,^ INDICATE: O COLLECT 12. CHARGE TO DEPARTMEOT ..^^.... . OFFICIAL DSE OfflJf Cl«(»lf(c«ti , — / i3ir-? • T i-" 37 i '. yKC^XQHt Ancmbaaay, KOSCCW PRioRmr ';,' u'^n -J (•' ' SCA:V0tJWiinofd1b ^ n.rti«. .pp.«»«< fcr. SCAfTOTC Michel CiftnT In.oVi -7- \ ' ' ,y(t«lBpbonlc/ily) KnraouCTioN rKM 1HIS cow « •rmM:'<^- ' GSTLQlkL USE OiVLT MXIMriS UNUS -MHCLASittaat' ' , ; C i • t • i f i c • t i e n 0S-1»I * w. •. •evanmuMr nuMTiM* •rriob •••»—••••• :l-!.:.j^ , -^ij:.i:'i |- James Exhibit No. 8 246 0«p«rtaant CUSSIfTcXTluN OFFICIAL USE ONLY .JUT- s't(-^) m-Vs" TRANSMITTAL SLIP TaTT 1-J-5J American Embassy, KOSCX)W Jos6p\f*B*.'h?oi't1S::^' trpur Departesnt of State TO T?.? ?ORglCN SSRVIC8 TO THii DBPARTMENT i \ tot Trkas«itt«l to iddr««t«* D«pt. laforoatloa 0al7 I l •t tk« Discratiea o( Post [^CBSP Pablieatioaa ^^?ost lB(ora»tiot Oalr [~^Tr4»iait to Por«i(« Offico I I gaeloaaro to ProTioaa Stbait Bcport Daapatek I I r~l>o>XT to tko ladiTldBftl I [ tapir to Sept. Saqaaat 1 I Traasalt to: (B.S. igancyj r"~l Ittona: DEFCRENCe 4^ TtTSsTrImIsks" .^-^ -OOvJ Dear Joe: / Too will be interested to know that SOV, did not see the outgoing OMV giving INS / 7/ disasproval of the waiver for Krs. Oswald. / IH agPLT »gPBg TO PILg KDMBER ANI> DRAFTING 0PPIC8 fiue 10. SliSnATuftr W U-v- OFSiaAL USE OMUC Soviet onion Affairs cro ai«as7 "^"^^^Av^ James Exhibit No. 9 247 v> OFTICIAL USS OMLY VQ - }Sr, Joha E. Crunp Kareb 16, 1962 SOT - Sobert I* Ovon Operation of Sanctions 3ii?o3ed by Section 2li3(g) of the £3sieratlon and nationality Act in Cass of I-lrs. Karisa N. Os'^rald It has C0S3 to the attention of SOV that in approving tho petition granting Ilrs. Karina 11. Os^-rald non-quota statua the San Antonio District Office of US did not inclTido a '..-aiver of the sanction against the issuance of the Tisa irriosed by Section 2l{3(e) of the Ironicration and nationality Act, It vonld, therefore, bo necessary for Krs, C^vald to proceed to a third conntry and there apply for a Cnitrsd States visa instead of receiving a visa at I'osccw when her husband. Lea Harvey Cs:-7ald, la decunentcd for a rotvtm to the US as an Ai^erican citizen. Lee Harvey Osvald is an Aaerican citizen vho doiccted ftoa tfcsUS and decided to reside perrianontly in thj Soviet Union.- Althouj^ he nade knorm to the Embassy his orisinal intention to renounce Assriccn citizenship, ho never completed the for::alities, Vhen he becata disillvisioned uith. life in the Soviet Union, he requested passport facilities to return to the U3. After due con- sidaratioQ the Passport Office cada the decision th;at Os>.-ald is still an Asericsn citizen; the Eriassy has been authoriaed to issue Mo a passport for return to tho CSj and SC3 has authorized a loan of $500 to enable hia to travel to the US vith his Soviet vilfe and " recently bom child, • ; . : - 807 believes it Is in the interest of thj US to set Lee Harvey Osvald and his fsaily out of the Soviet Union and on their *ay to this country as soon as possible. An unstable character, '^vhose actions are entirely ucpredictable, Os-A'ald r^y irell refuse to leave the USSR or subsequently attcr.pt to return there if ve should Bake it i:90sslble for him to be accompanied froa Hoscou by his vife and child. Such action on our part also 'ould pemit the Soviet Coverment to argue tha% althou'^ it had issued an e:cit visa to ijrs. Or^ald to prevent the separation of a fa.-aily, the United States Covcmr^ent had Imposed a forced separation by refiLsir.g to ic:nie her a visa. Obviously, this vould vealcea our Stbassy's position in encouraring positive Soviot action ia other cases involviE» Soviet citizen ' relatives of US citizeES, ^-. , Also ' OFFICIAL DS3 (P.UX Virginia Jam«a Exhibit No. 9 James Exhibit No. 9 —Continued 248 . 2 . OFFICriO. tSE CE.'LT Also to ^© conaldsred Is the fact that vo have granted a. loan of $500, sufficient only to briir^ tae fenily to Hew Yoric. There is a strong possibility that a IT^w lork or other velfare agency will have to support the fsnily chirins a stcp-ov-.r in Mew York and pay for their onward travel to Texas since Oswald only has a total fund of 3700. A detour to a third country vould require additional United StHes funds. S07 rccaT.-.ends, that 123 bo asked to reconsider on an ur<»ent basi^ its dacision regarding the 210(g) waiver for IJs, Oswald, r> In view of the foregoinrj, it is rcco-tended that a telepraa bo sent to the E-ibassy at lioscow advisinr; it to i.lthhold action of liO's recent d on the subject 0?IRX1101l3i Case of rirs, Marina 11. Osvald. In this connection, the ihbassy's y.I20'A j;o, 2li3]i of March 15 i&ich asked vhcn a decision on the petition and vaiver could be ex- pected, apparently was Eotivatcd in part by the fact that Osvald is Tising vp his funds while awaiting docuscntation* I Virginia James Exhibit No, 9 ZUSi SOVi VHJases I lep OFFICIAL V3S 0I:LY James Exhibit No. 9 —Continued 249 vf >. yD n / .im^^ji^ ^> -RMANSNT RECORD COPY , B TaEGRAM"^ Department of .UMXt^D OFFICIAL USE AeUon VO .^»l' FROM: Moscow , Info ERU TO: ): Seot^tary Se^: of State WL" \ ')-...-•.." Oswald* leavlcg here June 1, boarding Kaasdan ac Rotterdam June 4,\ . 1 c IV • 'ScrtTtHg New York June 13. j . ' C- •'.l/-"'^v • .- • -i' ." .----„ '' tl . • :/-'V^ '.•'• v'^ij -.' • ^> - THOMPSON ' '\ . '?«' •;'•.'• ^' 'MEM :••• -'^^ ••.'!; :' •^ ••. ...:'^ ''^.- ;-. , ^ . ,,. • LIMITED OFFICIAL USE • REPRODUCTION FROM THIS COPY !S \ ^,. ••Thlai'copy must be returiwd-te-RM/n central fllea crtth-notllgg/^ggtfib^^iMI/SSlFIED- m 1 ACTION TAKCN OATC or «CTie«* IoinicTioN* TO WM/W • 'l^ «i» « s-w. i ,: "^ lyrr ft. v^^.: : ;-" '.i ' tt i James Exhibit No. 11 251 . . . • Novcnbor 22» 1963 ^ •• 1630 . To: r>r. A. J. Gill, Dean The UaiversiCy ox Texas Southwest era Kcdical School Froa: M. T. Jcnlcins, M;D., Professor aad Chairman ' Department of Anesthesiology Subject: Statement, concemins rccuscitative efforts for President John F. Kennedy Upon receivins a stat{:alarm that this distinsuiched patient was being brought to the emergency room- at Parkland I-Iemorial Kospital, I dispatched Doctors A. K. Giesecke and Jackie H. Kunt v/ith an anesthesia machine and rcsuscitativo equipment to the major surgical emergency room area, and I ran dovm the stairs. On rny arrival in the emergency operating room at approximately 1230 I found that Doctors Carrico and/or Dolaney had begun resuscitative efforts by intro- 'ducing.an orotracheal tube, connecting it for controlled ventilation to a Bennett intermittent positive pressure breathing apparatus. Doctors Charles Baxter, 1-Ialcolm perry, and Robert McClelland arrived at the same time and began a tracheostomy and started the insertion of a right chest .ube, since there was also obvious tracheal and chest damage. Doctors Paul I^etcrs and Kemp. Clark arrived simultaneously and immediately thereafter assisted respec- tively with the insertion of the right chest tube and VTith manual closed chest cardiac compression to fissure circulation. (As evidence of the clear thinking of the resuscitative team, the patient received 300 mg. hydrocortisone intra* venously in the first few minutes.) For better control of artificial ventilation, I exchanged the intermittent positive pressure breathing apparatus for an anesthesia machine and continued artificial ventilation. Doctors Gene Akin and A. H. Giesecke assisted with the respiratory problems incident to changing from the orotracheal tube to a tracheostomy'' tube, and Doctors Hunt and Giesecke connected a cardioscope to determine cardiac activity. During the progress of these activities, the emergency room cart was elevated at the feet in order to provide a Trendelenburg position, a venous cutdovra was performed on the right saphenous vein, and additional fluids were begun in a vein in the left forearm while blood was ordered from the blood bank. All* of these activities wore convicted by approximately 1245, at which time external cardiac saassage was still being carried out effectively by Doctor Clark as Jenkins (Dr. Marion T.) Ii^xhibit No. 36 252 Dr. A. J. Gill, Dean Movcnbcr 22, 1963 Vczc 2 -'Statcncnt concerning recuscitativQ of forts for Prcsidont John F. Konncdy Judged by a palpable peripheral pulse. Despite those meacures there was no electrocardiographic evidence of cardiac activity. These described recuscitativo activities were indicated ao of first irnor'cance, and after they were carried out attention was turned to all other evidences of injury. There x/as a great laceration on the right side of the head (tc.-nporal and occipital), causing a ^veat defect in the skull plate so that there ^7as herniation and laceration of great areas of the brain, even to the c:ctcnt that the cerebolluiu had protruded from the wound. There were also fracnicntcd sections of brain on the drapes of the encrscncy room cart. With the institution of adequate cardiac conprcssioa, there was a great flow of blood froa the cranial cavity, indicating that thoro vas much vascular das^as^ ^o well as brain tissue daaasc. It Is lay personal feeling that all methods of resuscitation were instituted expeditiously and efficiently. However, this cranial and intracranial danage was of such magnitudo as to cause the irreversible deia&ze* President Kennedy was pronounced dead at 1300. Sincerely, M. T. Jenkins, M.D. Jenkins (Dr. Marion T.) Exhibit No. 36— Continued '44-731 O— 64— vol. XX 19 253 — roooi (n*r. ).]•$«) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dot., r-3GPmber 10, IQf^"^ MP. r.'^.V.LTj L,, JENKINS, ?CBW r'0.1o Station, S900 McCi-ee "^ Road, Dallas, Te:-:aa, aciVlacd tie follov/e: He has bosn employed as .nowsman for KBOX Radio Station ^^; for the past two months, ^^ j 2* J* On November 22 j .1S63, i'.o nai'tlolpatcd In the covc.:;-^:;^ of PreBident^JOmi P. KEi-.SDY'B tovi' of Dallas with DAVID KIIIQ — "~^^' "^ UPI, Dallas. He did not '.j-itness the assa ICEMED^. He said KING did not vjiirxess Pro assassination and KING i;as ^ot in the. Dallas Police Dap. basement when LEE HARVEY OSWALD v;as shot, Koveiiiboi' 24, 1963. On November 24, 19^3, he was Just enterins the baco ment area of th6 Dallas Pblice Djpartment froi?. th3 uoper ,'^ floor vjhen OSV;ALD was shot. He did not witness the shooting of OSWALD. He recalls feeeing many policemen and prc-ss representatives in the basement area at the time of t-he OSV/ALD shooting, Idehti'^ies of the policemen and news representatives were mainly unknown to him. He does not personally knov; JACK RUBY and did not , " know LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He arrived at ti.- Dall a Police Department approximately - 4:00 P^M.^ Noveuber 22, ISSS, subsequent to the assassination, and v/as at" the police station until early Saturday, IJovember 23, 1963. He vfas present v;hen OSVJALD v/as brought before press; radio and television representatives during the evening of November 22, 19^3, to be photographed and intervievjed. Pie recalled there v;ere a large number of press representatives present in addition to a large nuiiber of police officers. After OSWALD was shot, November 24, 1963, he had ari opportunity to brief ly^ view JACK RUBY in p^.^.-'son and also saw photographs of RUBY in^ the nev:spapers and on television. After seeing RUBY on November 24, I963 and the photographs,.^ recalled that on the evening of November 22, 19^3, b&tv;cen approximately 5j30 to 7:30 P. 11,, he saw a man believed to be RUBY on [tihe third floor of the police station. RUBY v:as milling around In the crowd' of press representatives and v^as alonft , Thft third flnnr of the poj-lce nt?^tion w,?>jb almost c 12/10/63 Drillas, Texas Fil8# DL 44-1639 ' EDIIOi.D C. H,\RDIN & by spocioi A^nnt s ROBEHT J. vfmr.isaj/in Date dictated 12/10/63 This docum.nl contain, n.lther t.comm.ndolion, not conclusion, ol Ih, FBI. II U Ih, prop,rty ol th, FBI and 1, lo your oq,ney; It and It, eont,nt, or, not le b, dl,trlbut,d out,ld, your ag,ncy. r^^ Jenkins (Ronald L.) Exhibit No. 1 254 2 DL 44-1639 completely filled a:i:G -w-es r^o orT'OWdtcl he oould hardly move around. He did not seel rinyor.o wh'o did not appear to be a policeman or press rcp.v:iCv>.itatlve. Ha believes he saw RUBY talking to an unlcnown man near the third floor elevator shaft. He believes RUBY was v/earing a light colored top coat and no hat. He did not recall whether RUBY v;as carrying anything at the time. About 11:00 P.M., the seme date^ v;hen OSVJALD v^as p.ade avbllable to the press representatives, he believed he again sav; RUBY in the crovjd. He believes RUBY vras ;:tanding on a table where some car::?3:rai)sn were standlns and that RUBY had a pad of writing pai:o:. in his hand, RUBY was v/earing a sport Jacket at that tlrae. On both occasions, he thought RUBY was Just -another press representative but did not recall if RUBY had a press card or other type of identlfi^ cation. He did not recall anyone checking identification when he entered the room where OSWAID was made available for press representatives on November 22, 1963* He had not left the Police Department during the evening so he did not know if persons entering the Police Department were being checked for identification. On November 24, 19^3 he did observe policemen, .•> both in uniform a..d in civilian clothing, checking identifica- tion of persons entering the Police Department, Kls identifi- cation was checked on several occasions. There vjere also ^ police guards at the elevator entrances and at various doors leading' into the basement area. ?Ie recalled tha': when he was in the press room on the third floor of che police station during th- evening of iiovember 22, I963, he observed several press cards laying on a table and he reported same to a police officer, name unl^novm to him. He does not know of any unauthorized person peraitted to enter the police station basement, November 24, 1953, ox* the police station during the period of November 22 arid lioiVember 23, 1963. He docs not knoW of any person permitted to enter the police station without showing identification. He has no information that anyone conspired with RUBY or that any police officer or other official conspired vjith RUBY or willfully permitted the killing of OSWALD. Jenkins (Ronald L.) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 255 3 13L 44-1639 He did not U:llc to RULY on any occasion or see any- one talking to RUBY other than the one man whom he did not knov/, , He has no knov/led^e of any relationship or prior acqualhtance between RUBY and OSWALD. He said that RC~Z?.T- TI:C:i?SC2I, employee of V/FAA television, Channel 8, Dallas, told him he was in the Police Department basement when OSWALD v/as shot. JENKINS said that SAIf PATE then employed as announcer by KBOX Eadio Station, was at tt3 press conference November 22, 1963, when OSWALD v;as brought before the newsmen to be photographed. He said that JERRY KUWKLE, announcer KBOX Radio Station, was also at the same previously mentioned press conference. He believes THOMPSON, PATE and KUNKLE have all been interviewed concerning their observations, Mr, JENKINS sdi'd he had no other information concern- ing this matter, > . - Jenkins (Ronald L. ) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 256 ^/7' J S i-c ,r O ) > •/.- '::iM- ,y J^ ,1 O-^.i /c^f ^r-..^ /^-..S ^/^^ /: . /ic , ^, ^^-v >^,./:._.. ;/ 7^-/-^-^-> /C^--^ }. ^^^^Vz -V-^--, Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 1 257 ^r r .yf^^''' .^-^J -^ 'yy'K'^ y r/^-^-^^'<-^^''-^J^> <-'-'<- '1. -"^ - '' /> /v^X' /> ^J>^L^. .•-_/ y:-^-^, ^ . ,^/A.^..^. ^ Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 258 U L. ^Nj^L^ ^^.»y. ^v^^<^y July 31, 1963 L. H. Oswald P O Box 30061 New Orleans, La« Dear Mr. Oswald: Your letter to tho WORKER has been referred to rr.© for reply. It is good to know that movements in support of fair play for Cuba has developed in New Orleans as well as in other cities. We do not have any organizational ties with the Committee, and yet there is much material that we issue from time to time that 15 important for anybody who is concerned about developments in Cuba. Under separat e cover we are sending you some liter- ature • Sincerely yours. Arnold Johnson, Director Information and Lecture Bureau Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 2 260 - / ^'-'^^' '\£>^X^i-<^ V- J ^ y x'-^'^ ^^^^ >^'i- ^ p/G r / / / ./. -,/ /^ -• \- U^ / .--? / S<^i^-r ?Cc: 'i^c '2-1^^-^ 1i< -.^c •^> ^ Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 3 261 'j;)^^^7- 2')r^ /9^63 y^lX C-O/l^^ C ^--:-f '. v-^ ,-H.' / " y c-<: ->- '7 ^...,^' ,,y,^^- ^-^x^- -^-^^^-.-cX / :/^^ -^v>-*vf.d (^r^V ^ /--* -^^<^ c::->'»-o .^<^-^^^ .--^ -^-^ ^ f' . ^^.-rL-v,.' .,X'^c u ) Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 4 262 /l^- <-'/>>'-'--i^—>-'l rry >/ /y ./' / '^'^-'^7 >--r^-- -^'-<^- 7 <::^7vr'i /? :c- ^,^..' ^-/rc, ./;\, / ^.y.^ 4,^^ ^• j> / / ^. -'. t .j / ^-' :p,'^<^' ^'->-'iji >c^-.^^_^ ^i- ?^ TZ .'^ yj^ Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 263 u. ! -"^'v-/:. , / -' ^.c ^ -/ ,. -cT?!^ ^< "-- ^—.w--.^^ ? " .^/•{.^^.y ,.„-' .- .-«^..^-^^,-r^,_ j^^; ^-'-^C^ t. cU/ /^-''W-•'5. ^-o^. ^'i'r-?::^.,,- /^. 7c< '--•z-^1.-.. ^^- '- J J •-" ' >? t^'^->-' T^'t v<-'-£^ ( yy^^.j / ''-' ^< /- .. :. Z.. /' .c7<-<-^ ^^'^^-'ly ^^-^,'^ /.£^^ ^^ ^ '-z^^'- ,'^2,^> 6^ Cc^-,-^di. ,-<^/ /-^-? ^y--< -/' J^ ^^^^i^^C-^^^C-'-^'C^. Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 5 — Continued 267 n Y " 'tji 1 A. Johnso /-S^^t^ '"'^^^=>^r^ /.'; >' ^--^•^> Exhibit # 5 I ^ i 'i^^V/sXtr —n-^ cy.'fX<:^'>. ^:- O Moved. /Pt^ ^^ .1^ ^ c / :? 3 ^- . ;,-j ^-^ *^' vvardab/e y^^c^J *<^ ^-^^ /^y.' t/ c^-m:^ CSsS^ NSS^ N^ ^^v^ Ns:>^ \^ ^^^^ N^ ^^^ "^ Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 5 — Continued ip 7ocp;'. V\ I g^ :^TqTipc3 uosut{Of "y rmS^ I i^^^NJi^j^ \i^ Ni^ Nv^ ^^^ \"^> >^^ "^^ '^'^^ vvw -ccv w Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 5 — Continued 268 READ M^THE WORKER If you want to know about PEACE DEMOCRACY UNEMPLOYMENT ECONOMIC TRENDS Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 5-A 269 / * '' '• iiii o .11 . Ill . ' ttm ' ' ' 1 1 11 i I , ^ JX'wyl_'" -^.<>-^ -V ""^ ^ A. Johnson Exhibit #7 ' ^' ' ^y / ..^->o ^^. 0^^/L^.^^>^^^ . >^J ry^^d^^ ^>^//^- .,^^o2_^ ^-,.^'' ^:^^'^ Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 7 271 <>:-7'W «^"^~ •»'-<^-/ c- '>,' ^:"^ ^- i:'.' '2^' ^ .i->X<^ /--C^ J^ J^ m ,. ' MHLJU iHU| I iii^iMi A. Johnson Exhibit #7 Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 272 ^4^ C*P--yt.,«_—*-" — <:>^ ^' zr^^.^^<^^^ ,X ^ -.<^::^-^^^^y 'T^rv.t.^xv'^G^ <::::-^i-=0 ^ cj\ /"•O.^o< (. <^.'M^ tu.S. AIRMAIL VIA AIR MAIL 23 i^o^^ ^6'^^^/K puw 3 »A. Johnson Exhibit #7 Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 274 / / __ 4?a«S6?^!«««a&wH*r^e»*iSI«Si^^ A. Johnson Exhibit #7 A P j^^ .^^sr ^^' jeB^r jS^^ ... - Johnson (Arnold) Exhibit No. 7 —Continued 275 1 ^'TN '^. "33tCfJ a hi *" ?'• i;^- "^ r ^ n 'j '^ 1^ r kH:J, ^;.^,m ';;,,> ^ ;'; fi .< l'} ff ^'» '^ ' ' "'" ''.* ' Johnson (Gladys J.) Exhibit A 276 7^ r -/. ^ry sx -^-r^ /V A^ o'-'^' --^lo /V.^' '_ /^-""- ^""'^ ^^^.^-^ _ / / «i; ^^; A/, Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 1 277 ' o^ .-, i L, il: "^- -/u-^d/i Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 278 — / ^.c^^ vc. _^ ^ PcK.-^ . Or/ 3V.^ /- ^^r^' /^4c: - c.>^-, <.^.- /C^^^ -/^ <:^^e =5.- ^.'v-^-S"'^^-. o/^/QjL., j-y--^.^^ ^^^y^/Toa^-OT As^^i- >- ^-^v A, 'S' V ^<^ :>S /-^ Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 1— Contiuued 279 -x/.n.. ;.} j j;. /^ /-> ^-^ ^ A-^- ^^ ^2„p "' ^ 1 ' -V *. ' xu '-C.^^K --r ^' V C--/:, c^Ls':.. roc- . Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 280 ; \' >"-> -'^jr-'^r ) /C Jy-y^ /C[,./ ^/J) 2iZ ^^^^^ -y /c-. 'i-^y s 2^ / ^A ^/ ^-^-, -J c-/^ /c A^ ' -^(k^ <0 '-3-^lc'^Jc.;.-,a^ <\^'"' Johnson (Pkiscilla) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 281 :).^^ ^0 '^.. ^/. <>- '' -/ j-«.^ — i^ C_J^ ./' r^ /.-y^-^ci ^^^-f^ "J" C^i-\,^ . V-i <=V-i / ^ 7^(2, /i'. A .^:./.v, V Jr. P< ^ o • - - ^'^-o-: . -.^ lu^ O OC1, -/r Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 282 y C-^ ^' '3^ // -J y '~'r'^ y ^ /> C4- To J^.^ '^ V p '^y- Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 1— Continued 283 /.<. ^--^7 >'-^-i^ r-'iy li^^^ ^c>^ ^ ' y "l- cv- . v--^ , / ^r '/ C .^- -"^ Jrie /.^.^ / '^ -^^' •"-r .-^jlo'^ ^ Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 284 "^-^•^^^'^ f*^^^^^ — v\i) -u? .'y.-rL'./r^ Alfr^/7/ , To: North. Amorican Nov/opapGr Ariianoo . . ^/V ^-<2— /- From* •^'rlacilla Johncon ' ^ ^ U c iiow Ihave 130611 waiting to do this ono thing. To dissolve my American citizenship and become a citizen of the Soviet Union," Today, twenty year-old Lee ^rvey Oswald of Fort V/orth, 'Hbs. Icxas, is in I^'oscow. He hopes he s close to his goal. With his suit of charcoal gray flannel, dark tie and tan cashmere sweater -^ee Looks, and sounds, like Joe College v/ith a slight Southern 2C2ekji± drawl. But his life hasn't "been that of a typical college hoy. ^ '- father, an insurance salenan, died LeeJ^s "before he vras horn, Kaised in ^e^nis and Louisiana, the boy spent two years in ^''ew York during his enrly teens. At 17, ho enlisted in the U.S. i-arines. "I did it," he says, 'hz "because- we wore poor and J didn't want to be a burden on my mother," Later, he spent 14 months ±21 as a licensed radar operator in the J^ar Bast, This September, his 3-year hitch nearly done, the ''^arines gave -'^ee a dependency discharge. Just one months later, after an exhausting trip by land, sea and air, he arrived in Moscow, to TiTyi. petition the Supreme Soviet, highest legislatl^ve body in the U.S.S.R., for So vie t"* citizenship . Livi\rLg in I.To scowls Hotel i^tropolo on mney ho earned as .a\U.S. ^'^arine, Lee Osv/ald waits for an answer, \, Even though Russian off ici\lc^\ '^-^vo warned him Soviet citizenship is not easy to ol-^^tsAin, Lee already ." refers to the Soviet government as '^my, g^yc.Tameiit "but," says Jeo, "even if I am not aopcepted, .5 on no account v/ill- I go back to th- United States. I's^l'"-!! remain here, if necessary, as a residen*.t alien." All Soviet officalQ vrill promi^-se tpday is tf;at Lee can stay on in EuBoia regardless of whether ho beco^O^c a oitizcn; • Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 2 286 ^""* lacanv/hilc ,they ro "invec;tica-bin£j' the poaoi'bilityybf Gondin^ hir,i to a Soviet higher technical institute. At an a^o v.'hen ancry youn^ rehela all over what "brought thia Geriouoj soft-spoken Southern "boy • to r.Toscow v-ath no other anoition iDUt to spend tho rest of hio life as a Soviet citizen? Evidently, it_s a comlDination of poverty, the plight of the U.S. I'^egro, and tho U«So £tarino3« •'Lly raotherp^ says ^eo, "has been a v/ork^r all her lifOc S|4Goa a good exc'^..£.la,2 he adds, "of \yhat happens to v/orkers in tho United States," He declines to elaborate, "At the age of 15," he adds, "after watching the way workers are treated in ±hE:-:2 ^''cw York, and ITegroes in the South, looking for a key to my en- I was vironment „ The I discovered Socialist literature." Lee was struck, in particular, hy ^^arx's "Das Kapital. he concluded tha.t, as an Ainerican, "I would EJciihKr "become either a worker crqoloited for capitalist profit, cr en explc'ter or, since there are many in this category, I'd "be one of the unemployed," Lee "became '^, a Marxist,, Later, as a rnarinc Corps Private in '^apan and the Philippines, he "had a chance to watch American i'lilitarist imperialism in action, year ago, J^eo "began getting ready to Zih-ly a ;ome to Russia, Using a 3erlitz gramm.ar, he taught himself to read and vrrito P.ussian. Never, says lico, . a nice-looking six-footer with gray eyes and "brovm hair, did he consider deserting the llarine Corps, Does it occur to See that Soviet officials nay 'oe enharrassed by his effort to "become . a citizen of their country at a moment when Rug -".a is cvJLtivating good r^aations with ti,e 'United States? JOHNSON (Priscilla) EXHIBIT Xo. 2 —Continued 287 TvUCoian officialfj, says -'•ce, "don't encourage o.nd c'^on't ..iscouracc ne." They v.nrn, however, that neither i^eo's v.'i3h, not theirs, will detcnnino v/hcthor hn his , , "be accepted^ xxxx'' citir.enship n-nplication !7:±3:i: io to ' X2cbdac;ciic::c^x::^i:cA^li^ they've offered Lee the sanctuary of a prolonged stay in the TJ.S.S.R. As for officials at the U.S. I^hassy in ?.Ionco\y,they re torn "betAvorn their desire to £:ivo Lee tine to thinlc it over, and their le£vQ.l ohli^ation to ciECETiixIii.vXcf hear his oath renouncing Azicrican citizenship if he insists. Loe is "bitter at U.S. Consul Hichard Snyder, v;ho, he charcec, stalled him v/hen he asked to take the oath on Oct. 31, only tine Leej^s "been at the Hahassy. As a result, Lee won't go "back there. He'll lot the Sovi<^t £;ovcrnrjir'nt handle Ic^^l details v;hen, and if, he heco;r.es a.x citif.en of the Soviet Union. I-Icanv.'hilc , he As handed over his passport to the Anerican j^nhassy. Embassy officials adrait they're a "bit £pjm. sliy. it's their third case of attcniptcd defection this fall. The first, Nicholas ^etru^li, clnccliind: clian/jed his mind ahout defecting; junt hefore Russia refused him citizenship*. Petroilli had a history of mental illness. The second, an enployee of the V/ehster, Rand Co., asked for, and received, Soviet citizenship aJtuEE after he had ST)ent- the suiiKier- rac working at the U,S, air in I.Toscowc'.s Sokolniki -c^ark. But Ir^ebster and Petrulli had had Tnarital troubles back home. Unlike V/ebster and Petrulli, Lee Oswald has never been married. oge —he v/on't be 21 until Plis next Oct. lo —is apparently no bar to renouncing his- American citizenship ^i^ssians comeof age' at 18, — Continued Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 2 288 As for ordinAry Puasinno ho nooto, clo t?iey orpreoG Gta'prino at Loc g dcciro to defect? "V.'ell," caya LeCj they're very ciiriouD and they ask no v/hy," But Liater.iallGt LtUGCovites.; he adds, v^i^-'"'(5"-C'S'tand when I Docalc of the idcalistica]reasons that hrou.'icht r.ie hero. And they ask me nany questions ahout the rcaterial con- ditions of workers in the United States." Re^yirdlesG of any Txatcrial shortcor.iin.^3" he sees v/hilo he's hc-Oj Loc insists he'll never go hack to the ibriii^-ittxl'i U.S.A. "EiniiCpration, " he says, "isn't easy« I don t reconmend it to everyone. It laeans comir." to a Tie'.'! country, al\7ays beinf; the outsider, always having to adjust. But to me, my reasons are r±a:>r::^p:siii:ix?-cLaii strong and good. I "bclievo I'm doing ^ie^"^^" won't That's why X^ee itaE.Kni± take any jiiians calls v;hen his mother telephones from Fort V.'orth to hog him not to defects Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 289 — Interview With Suspect Oswald in Moscow in 1959 * ^Tlke Stuff of The ciithor 'd'as Mojcow Ccnesfondcnt for ^'AXA Government WMcfi as "my govern- he "had a chance to watch ment." "But," said Lee, "Even American militarist imperial- in 1939. A few \ca>s before, in 19::, she had ieen research if I am not accepted, on no ac- ism in action." cssistant or, J'iel Xa;n- for Johz p. Kennedy, then a count will I go back to the United States. I shall remain Year's Plaiiiiing senator. She is perhaps the only pi'son to have been good Fully a year before, Lee be- here, if necessary, as a resident friends '.lith both the late President and his suspected alien." gan getting ready to go to cssassin. She is today a frec-hnce writer on Soviet affairs. All Soviet olTicials would Russia. Using a Berlitz gram- promise at the time was that mar, he taught himself to read By PKISCILLA JOHNSON Lee could stay on in Russia and wri'.e Jiussian. Never, said whether or not became Lee, a nice-looking young man (Cojrrlth!- !?"3. P»>Imi Globr. Nimh At-!tlnii NfMip.rtr AMI. nee) he a citizen. Meanwhile, they were with gray eyes and brown CAMBRIDGE, Jlass.— "For r'.-o years now I have "investigating the possibility hair, did he consider deserting been v.-aiting to do this one thing. To dissolve my of sending him to a Soviet the Marine Corps. American citizenship and becc.-e a citizen of the higher technical institute." Did it occur to Lee that So- Soviet Union." .^t an age when angry viet ofRciais might be embar-i young rebels all over the rassed 'oy his efforts to become The time ^vas November, 19"0. The plaii- -.vas my world find release in ap'mg the a citizen of their country atl a moment when F-ussia room on tlie third floor of ^losciw's Hotel '?tropol. beatniks, what brought this cultivating good relations with serious, soft-spoken southern The speaker was Lee Harvey Oywald, pri suspect boy to Moscow with no other the United States? in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. ambition but to spend the rest Russian olTicials, he said, of his life as a Soviet citizen? "don't encourage and don't dis- V/ith his suit of charcoal gray flannel, dark tie Evidently, it was a combina- courage me.'' They warned, and tan cashmere sweater, Lee looked, and sounded tion of poverty, the plight of however, that neither Lee's like Joe College with i slight southern drawl. But the U. S. Negro, and the U. S. wish, nor theirs, would deter- Marines. mine whether his citizenship his life hadn't been that of a typical college boy. application was to be accepted. His father, an insurancesitlLis alone in his hotel room, "My mother," said Lee, "has They said it depended on tlie faksrean, died before he was'jui-. r:e floor below mine at been a worker all her life. "over-all political atmosphere at the moment." Meanwhile, born. Raised in Te.xos and the TVtropol. Ke had no She's a good example," he . Louisiana, the boy spent two friencs in Russia and he didn't added, "of what happens to they offered Lee the sanctuary years in New York during his speak a word of the language, workers in the United States." of a prolonged stay in the early teens. At 17, he en- The o-ly sightseeing he'd done He declined to elaborate. U.S.S.R. listed in the U.S. Marines. ^was U "Detsky Mir," a chil- "I did It," he said, "because dren's store one block from our "At the age of 15," he added, As for oiTirials at (he U.S. we were poor and I didn't want hotel. He'd managed to buy "after watching the way Embassy in ."Moscow, they workers are treated in New were torn between their de- to he a burden on my mother"'an ic; cream cone T-5'er, he spe.it 14 months as told r-.e proudly. a licensed radar operator ini the Far East. ' ' "here, he york, and Negroes in the sire to give Lee time to think I South, I was looking for a key it over, and their legal obli;a- As we sat in my hotel to my environment. Then I tion to hear his oath renounc- ing American citizenship if he his room all evcnin? and into discovered Soci. I In .September, ID.59, t literature." ' Lee was struck, in particu- insisted. I th.'ce-ycar hitch nearly done, the e:-rly hours of morning, the Marines grfve Lee a de- he t;5-.r;d quietly about his lar, by Marx's "Das Kapital." I pcnd-incy discharge. Just one plans to defect (o Russia, He concluded that, as an i Lee was bitter at U.S. Con- month Ir.trr, Ciftcr a.n e.Nhaust- Ilone'tr. I soon c.inic to feel American, "I would become sul Richard .?n\der, who, he j > in| trip by land, sea and air.^ that Itis hoy was of [he stuff either a. worker exploited for charged, jlalied him when he p he arrived in .'.:qscow to pe-, of whMi fanatics are m.irie. capitalist profit; or an ex- asked to take the oath on Oct. tilion il-.e S'.:prcme Soviet,! ploiter or, , i since there arci .31, the only time I^ce had been hifh';-t Icjisl.-.tivc br.dy in Ihej Ever, though Russian ofRcial^' m.any in this category, I'd be' at the Embassy. As a result, b.S.S.R for Soviet citizenship, uarnc: one of the unemployed." Lee Lee wouldn't go back there. I hi,-i Soviet citizenshi) 'jecsme a Marxist. , / He would let the Soviet gov- ^n.Vf ran.-xtic 'i.^ not '::.,•/ to obtain, Lee waii Later, a; a Marine private; ernment h.'indle le^-'al details] Fc- ci.'iyj, Ov.vaid had been a): cad; !>:'>.rr:ng loth" ;- " JaT-' :-\:{ the Philipri'-'" 'rp. .'. ! c • -..-.c a cit-1 ' .-, ' " Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 3 The Boston Sunday Gloh'e—November 24, 1°;.3 ~ l^) aiiatics izen of the Soviet Union [shortcomings in Moscow, Lee|he answered when I knocked he wouldn't do anything deri- Meanwhile, he handed over hi- insisted he would never go at his door and why, a few sive without at least letting passport to the American Em- jback- to the U.S.A. "Emigra-, hours later, he came to see me bassy. jtion," he said, "isn't easy. I in my room, I never learned, me know. I asked Lee if the ordinary don't recommend it to every-l Two days later I went to the Russians he met expressed sur- one. j It means coming to a As our conversation drew second prise at his desire to defect. ;new country, always being the| floor "dezhurnaya" to a close— we ate nothinj, "Well," he said, "they're very outsider, always having to ad-i the woman who sits near the a„,i 1,3,1 (jeen sinjiiiig onlv tea curious and they ask'me why. just. But to me, my reasons elevator and hands out keys to I But materialist Muscovites'," are strong and good. I believe^ _i i,r,(i a terrible feeling of he added, "under- 'and when I I'm doing right." futility. Disilluiion, I was each room and asked for Mr. — sure.awaijed him. Oswald. Her hands flew up in speak of the ide stic reasons That was why Lee wouldn't that brought me here. And answer the phone when his! As he was leaving I asked a know-nothing gesture. "He's they ask nie many questions mother was calling from Ft. [him to come see me again. The gone," she said. about coi-.'iitions of workers in Worth, trying to plead with Russians, Oswald told me. had the United States." wondered what had hap- him to return home. He had' warned that he mustn't talk to I'd 'Never Go Back' refused to speak to any Amer-^.^kmericans. But he promised, pened to him since. I Now I • Regardless of any material ican correspondents. Just whyibefore closing the door, tha know. -.1 Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 290 . Oo'^^aM IiiiiLsryleiv in R^ieGco^^v Recalled Call for Control Oll'lr roics ,vV„-i-' J 01; n.ttn was i^cc \\ 11.11 Kino T r ™ • ••-"'"-'"<-*» IJ'l.lCCH.ll. • — - . i - . .. ,. .. Ill I^UII^^ J.IUU w -,. . , ,.,. . -i : — ppopip generally were begin- ninn to ning ti-. rif,^^r>t at suspect ik^.i* that it about iK-^t Som prvillc. r.Xass. flic Masscirhustlls Cliicfs . . he [ lk^:l rcvcnl a fondness lime that the Cuban leader Did this ndrniltcd Miirxist^' pi,t t)-. liiKk'd- \Jov - was a Communist, of Police A5;so(')atEon szid . she recalls, "a very SutHhiy (lie abS.-issin.-ilion of paMeof ie5idcni;nerdcTto''^^^^^^^^^ No Mention of Cuba .oung man a1 foTlhis' a'c"! pl/uTsibli'\-ounr at first „ mS Prcsirtciil KciMicdy accciils of the United Slates, as Dallas, (ihe £isination), poiit bUjth. He was very consorva- ed John \ 'He saved cvcrv pennv .he lively dressed. He talked ex- scvcn.hour interview did Os- \ "^^ never once during the a ntcd (or federal lc£islalion ' to control interstate sale of dy last Friday just — carned in the Marines for the trcmcly quietly, and I rather rnenlion Cuba or Castro, tlrrarins. two days before he was simi- trip to Russia," she said, "and hkcd him. and it was because J'-'^'" Ihough he later became cjiair- Clilef Thomas J. CBricn larlv shot and killed as the case he warrlcd an early discharge this conversation went on for "^^n of a Dallas branch of Fair of Soinervillc, chsirniau of took on a bizarre twist. so he toiild get there a little so many hours that I saw how Pla/ for Cuba, a left-wing, pro- , the association's Icsislalive Few people really seem to .'faster. ''.Vithin two d3ys of his bitter he was. ... I saw his Castro group. conuiiittcc, asked Hep. Thom- known the 24-ycsr-old; djschai^c he was on a boat for coinpletely jj^vcn_knQ>ykdse_. After talking a good deal as O'Neill Jr. (D) of Slassa. New Orleans native well. Most jhc he So. ic ict Union. _bout ^*^^>J,L .^^ifD^'sm, Ttlifrxij which he about Marxist philosophy as cliiisclts to rodi; dc.-cribe him as a quiet sort of / or ;„,. l! Icsislation. Mr. O'Neill's think this is the kind claimed io tc acting derstood a person, one who did not mix f , ^„^ ", name of. one point: "I have had practi- 8th District includes the city that might ... he ell— a loner. He gave few th cal experience in the world. I of Somcrvillc. KC gone about it in a Hatred Detected opportunity to really under-. I^olu" am not an idealist completely. "The present weaknesses' ,,.'1jl;_'' stcnd him. ' •v;!,^ methon.cal ,^_j.^ .vhatove 1 kg > "As he talked, you know, /tot the idea that he didr I have had a chance to watch ] in our laws thai permits But in a rare moment f'fikieeded to k.,„.,. I military imperialism in action," criminals and irresponsibl, garrulousncss he gave one [ 'Know Marxism at all well Miss Johnson recalled. individuals to obtain fire- American such a chance. She Reports Dovetail 'although he claijiied "he'd been arms from Avithout their Miss Priscilla John and state of residence in order to', description dovetails ''v,'!>:;"s " =^;!!".!i ha5^een^rem1.ndous' , ,H r K Mr ^^V.^j^^^;j^j;^/i;',^^,,;3- ''''''' ''' '^^' ^^^^^^ ''''' ^''^ Ma. xism so poor^hat I knew j,, j^^,,, in p'oVe'nJ the United Slates, and he circumvent the laws of that , fhrounh^'T'two'vea'/ stint 1^ as a correspondent for o" ^^^'^^} 20 of this year Os - -' --- — -'- of been hatred the United States, rather than -" had been shocked by the pli; °' 'he Negro." state .'Mr. . must he remedied," . . O'Brien told Mr. C'.Vclll. : the Nor'ih Amerit Yspapcr asumcd The police chief's key pro- a real understanding of what But again and again he re- posal would "prohibit Iho i Alliance. •fro ho was doing" that motivated turned to theoretical .Marxism. (he ilh sale, rental, or lease ot 3, Intcrv 1 ;\Iosco\v Kcnn shot du him to renounce his American "He said he'd become a Marx- firearm by dealers v.ithin the The time was i in Dall citizenship and attempt to be- 'st at 15," Miss Johnson re- atcs toi csident.i ber, 1S59. The pla come a Soviet citizen. called. bitter, Miss Johnson of that stale wh Metropole. jMosco "Also," she said, "he taught Bid (o Escape complicti said, isl "capitalism" and hold for forcis'ic himself to lead and write Rus- "."^fler five years of reading rules, and regulations of "worker exploitation" in the Osv.ald had ai the United States— classic Commu- sian from Berlitz [School ot socialist literature," he told her. their stale of residence per- Soviet Union on Oct. 30 that „isi as -Icii Marxist phrases. Languages], but he said he had "observing treatment of minor- taining to the acquiring of 2 th the announced inten a lot ot trouble speaking it, ity groups (Communists, Ne- firearm." y But he never expressed any socking Soviet citizen and he seemed to be quite groes, and workers cspeciallv) The proposals would apply 7 hatred cf the presidency or of ship. -i , N.^. . I John F. Kennedy, th helpless. watching the treatment 'of Ten days later Massachusetts Senator. " "He sat in his hotel room, workers in New York and sce- now doing research at Harvardrjidn't V=c'ak"about "polilVcs and his mother would tele- ing how they're exploited I'd — for a book, learned he wasVpersons'; way." phone from Fort Worth and read about it in socialist litera- staying at the hotel and asked it V not to detect, and he ture •• and thought the deserip ing to him of Soviet citizen- . he would give her an interview. Capability Indicated just vouldn't tion was o.uite correct. ship, and the Soviet Govern- ; He said he would, and they Durir^ their long convcrsa- pho He indicated he wanted So- ment didn't. He was worried I ' talked quite freely for seven tion no:.".ing he said indicated viet citizenship primarily to when I talked with him." hours. he favcred using murder as a A Trip (or Ice Cream escape the United States society Their talk was deep and cor- ! , j The impression of Oswald politica; weapon. "He wouldn't go out at all he viewed in such a light. dial. She found him troubled, into Moscow. And he told me I I that emerges from that meeting "But from our conversation, "Since I'd cither be a worker plausible, and unknowingly that the one expedition he had exploited for capitalist profit is one of a youn,- man inlenselv ' could sec that he was a man bitter at the Uniicd States, who capable ot a whole lot" becau made had been to a children's n's [in the United States] or else ^•^Hc-Hlver saw him again. J displayed absolute single- "'.h'S f.aawing bilte she store only one block away, and nd an exploiter," he had said, "I'd He told her "once the Rus- mindedness about v/hatcver he -2'°- he recalled that he'd ;ed [have been] one of the uncm- sians accepted him he would ttempting to d . to obtain Soviet . "My- has olhc — he_ told_ h been a worker for her - to gel there by hiii ^ -,. buy himself ,* nd in the ployed" rather ther role than assume give me his [full] story He promised to con^c and talk * citizenship! " whole lite.' She had to produce owds." At the t "he ! with me before he jumped the ' Is this the sort of man who Profit tor the capitalists, and is At this point he had been in /bitter against the Am( hotel and went to live as a might have assassinated the a Eood example of what hap- the Soviet Union about 10 days. Embassy," she said, "be Russian, President' Pens to v/orkcrs in the United e didn't know Russia, and (they would not allow h to "About two days laler I went ,.. „ States." >i •asn't \ci.v curious about take the oath renouncing hi down to Uic floor where he Sm:lc-Minded^ Drive ,' ... , . ••But," she added, "he place," .she said, "even citizenship, lived and asked for him, and ^ "It struck me," Miss Johnson wouldn't say what work she hough he was defecting to it." "They would not accept hi they just threw up Ibcir hands Fidel Castro had been in passport until the Soviet Gov and said, 'He's gone.' He van- ^^id, "that probably when ' Ncithci expert lower in Cuba for almost a crnmcnt confirmed the {Tranl ished without a trace* Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 4 291 VII - 5(15) December 5, 1963 PRISGILLA JOHX^SON'S RECOLLECTIONS OF INTERVir:'.'' l-.ITH LEE IIARVEY OSWALD Iin: MO^::^.C;^^ NOVEMBER 1959 (Miss Johnson's own thoughc nc baglnhing) I have frequently thought about Oswald in connection with doing an article on defectors to the Soviet Union. Most of the defectors who came to Moscow while I was a correspondent there (1958-1960) came because of personal troubles they were having at home. They did not come or purport to come for reasons of ideology. Oswald was such an exception to the general run of defectors that I had been thinking about him ever since. I thought that the unideological quality of most of the defectors was a symptom of what had happened to the Soviet Union itself. It no longer seems to appeal to potential defectors for ideological or idealistic reasons. The type of person who is attracted to Soviet Russia today reveals a good deal about the Soviet Union itself. The Russians had wanted one or two defectors from the United States exhibition of 1959 to counter the negative propaganda they had been suffering from the more or less frequent defection of East bloc persons to the West. But they were not eager to have such defectors as Oswald. They can take them or leave them and at a moment of history like 1959 (the spirit of Camp David), could even be embarrassed by them. The motives of a man like Oswald might be jejeune but they are more idealistic than those of most defectors nowadays. Precisely because Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5 292 - 2 - they are realistic, however, people like Oswald are tricky and hard to handle. The Russians don't fully understand or trust the person who comes to them out of self-styled idealistic motives. This may be a mark of the Russians' own low self-esteem. But above all, it shows how Soviet society itself has changed since the 1920 's or early 1930 's. From experience, Soviet officials know that such a person can become bitter and turn against them. A defector like Webster who came only because he was trapped in an unhappy marriage at home and fell in love with a Russian waitress is easier to deal with and not so hard on. the hosts' self-esteem. Those were the thoughts I had about Oswald after I had interviewed him, considerably after I interviewed him, but years before the assassination; they were ideas I had noted down with the aim of writing a piece on how the changing profile of the defector was a clexj to the changing profile of Soviet society itself. I thought, however, that I had not fully comprehended Oswald. As he was the key to the piece and the inspiration of it, I had not written the article. But I had thought of Oswald often. Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5— Continued 293 - 3 - The interview took place about November 12th or 13th, 1959, on what I believe was a Monday night. Lee Harvey Oswald, 20, of Fort Worth, Texas, born in New Orleans, went to the United States Embassy on October 31, and JissolvcU i.iy /jucrican citizcuahip as much as they would let me at that time--! did request that my citizenship be dissolved. The Embassy officials did not allow me to swear an oath renouncing citizenship. They refused to allow me to take the oath at that time. They said they would not allow me to act without confirmation of my Soviet citizen- ship. I relinquished my passport and they would not act unless my Soviet citizenship was confirmed. This is what he said first. I asked him about the official Soviet attitude and he said: The Russians had confirmed that I would not have to leave the Soviet Union or be forced to go even if the Supreme Soviet refuses my request for Soviet citizenship. They have said they are investigating the possibilities of my continuing my education at a Soviet institute. And then he said at 17 he had entered the Marine Corps and been dis- charged in September, having spent 14 months in Japan, the Philippines, Indonesia, and Formosa, that he was a radar operator, and that he had finished his high school education in the Marine Corps. His birthdate was October 18, 1939. He said he had been in the Marines 2 years, 9 months, 3 days, overseas 1 year, 2 months, 24 days. He said he had been born in New Orleans, spent his childhood in Louisiana and Texas, spent 2 years in New York, and then gone back to Louisiana, enlisted in Dallas. He said his father died before he was bom. "I believe he was an insurance salesman." (This, in response to my question as to Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5 — Continued 294 - 4 what his father did. I v/as struck by his vagueness.) He said he had one brother, that the Marines had given him a good conduct medal, and that his mother was alive and living in Fort Worth. Then he said he had started learning Russian a year ago "along vith my other preparations" for coming to the Soviet Union. He said he had been able to teach himself to read and write Russian from Berlitz but that he still had trouble speaking the language. (I believe he spoke very little Russian at that time.) I asked him what method of Berlitz was he using, was he using text books, or was he actually attending classes, and he said he had both practice in speaking the language and a teacher, but he was either being vague or elusive as to how he learned Russian. Perhaps he was bored with just telling me about that. I asked him how he financed his trip to the Soviet Union and he said he came on money which he saved while in the Marine Corps. I asked him if he had made or was going to make any formal statement about his defection and the reasons for it, and he said he would not. Hesaid that if the Embassy had not told people about his defection (the American Embassy) he would never have said anything to anybody. But since they had, he was giving me an interview because I would like to give my side of the story--! would like to give people in the United States something to think about. (In retrospect, that is an important remark. It may have some bearing on his motives in the assassination. Also it reveals his sense that the Johnson ( Pkiscili^v ) Exhibit No. 5 — Continued 295 - 5 - Er.ibassy might be persecuting him, might be spreading unpleasant reports abou^ him.) He said. Once having been assured by the Russians that I would not have to return to the United States, come what may, I assumed it would be safe for me to give my side of the story. (So long as he felt there was any chance that he might have to go back to the United States, he apparently did not want to jeopardize his chances of staying in the Soviet Union by talking to a foreign correspondent,) Until they assured him that he could remain in the Soviet Union, "there was always the possibility that my visa would not be extended," The Russians had told him that a special law had to be passed by the Supreme Soviet making him a Soviet citizen. There had been a Supreme Soviet session in late October. It had taken no action on Oswald's citizen- ship and he appeared disappointed by that and worried. He said that Soviet officials had warned him that It is not my wish nor even that of Soviet officials, but the over-all political atmosphere, that will determine whether I can become a citizen. My citizenship may take years but I am safe in the Icnowledge that I can have a prolonged stay. Then I asked him what position the American Embassy had taken on his defecting and he said: They warned me about the trouble I could get into: (1) At first they tried to discourage me; (2) I asked to be allowed to take oath renouncing citizenship and they made excuses so as to refuse to let me take the oath. They said I should come back fully knowing that I cannot get into the Embassy without a passport; Johnson (Priscill^v) Exhibit No. — Continued 5^ 296 - 6 (Oswald had handed in his passport t;o the Embassy, in fact he could get into the Eiubassy as an obvious foreigner without the passport but this v;hole passage is indicative of his bitterness at the Embassy) (3) ac CUe Ciiae I became a flovio r.itis^en thon ^'niy '- government" (the Soviet government) v/ill handle my renunciation through the usual diplomatic channels. Then I guess he said he was bitter that the American Embassy refused to take his oath. I was there on Saturday, October 31st. They re- fused to take the oath on the ground that the consular officer needed time to get the papers together.' I told them I wanted to go through v/ith the formalities then and there. I can't be too hard on them but they are acting in an illegal way. He (the U.S. Consul) is supposed to carry that formality through. On November 1st 1 wrote a letter of protest to the American Ambassador on the way Snyder carried out his duties and I get this letter back. And then he quoted me the letter: It is a principle of the American Government that the right of expatriation is a natural and inherent right of any person and that the manner prescribed by law for the renunciation of American citizenship is the execution of oath before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in the established form. You are again informed that you may appear at the Embassy at any time during normil business hours and re- quest that the Embassy prepare che necessary documents for the renunciation of citizenship. (I don't know whether he showed this letter to me or cited it from memory.) Next, I asked him the attitude of the Russians. Were they encouraging him or were they discouraging him to defect? He replied: Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5 — Continued 297 - 7 - The Russians are Creatine it like a lc3al formality. The don't encourage you and they don't discourage you. They do of course warn you that it is not easy to be ac- cepted as a citizen of the Soviet Union. But even if I am not accepted I would not consider returning to the United States. I then a^akud him about his financca, wlicti-.cr ho had bousht tha $30 a day Intourist vouchers and whether he had been able to afford it. He said he had bought ten days' Intourist vouchers. He said, I am paying the standard room and food rate. I want to make it clear that they are not sponsoring me (financially). And he repeated "they are investigating the possibility of my studying." He had indicated that he had been irapatient to get out of the l-larines to come to Moscow and I asked him whether he had ever been tempted by the idea of deserting the Marines. He said, I didn't desert because (1) it is illegal; (2) for financial reasons; and (3) you can't get a passport while you are in the Marines. I asked him why he hadn't resigned from the Marines since he was in such a hurry to get to Russia, and he said "you can't resign of course (he laughed rather bitterly at this point) --^ that is for officers." He said, "I never seriously considered deserting," Then I asked him (I guess I had in mind that he might be a publicity seeker), would you mind if anybody ever knew about your deciding to defect? He replied; My family and my friends in the Marines never know my feelings about communism even though I spent 2 years preparing to come here. These preparations consisted mostly of reading. It took me two years to find out how to do it. Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. —Continued 5 298 - 8 - I asked him how he found out. He said it wasn't hard. I asked him if anybody helped him. He refused to name any person or institution who had helped him. QvtPottani Did Infcourisfe know of hifi plane to defect at the tima he arrived in the Soviet Union? Answer: "I won't say." But he said he had had an interview with an official of the Soviet Government a few days after his arrival in Moscow. He would not say who the official was or v/hat agency he represented. Oswald said he had left New Orleans September 19th, he thought. Anyway it was a Friday, . by ship. He had spent 12 days sailing to LeHavre, from there he booked a flight to Helsinki where he bought vouchers at $30 a day, (This implies he got a visa in Helsinki.) From Helsinki he went by train to Koscow where for the first 10 days he had been living on Intourist vouchers. For the pas_C 2 years I have been waiting to do th_is one thing. /Here he raised his voice and gestured_^/ For 2 years I was waiting to leave the Marine Corps and get enough money to come. I have had practical experience in the world. I am not an idealist completely. I have had a chance to watch American railitarist imperialism in action. He told me he had become a Marxist when he was 15. (My query -- why?) I had discovered socialist literature at that time. Then I spent 5 years reading socialist literature observ- ing: the treatment of minority groups in America: Communists, negroes, and the workers especially. Watching the treatment of v/orkers in New York and observing the fact that they are exploited. I had read about it in socialist literature and I saw that the description given in this literature was quite Johnson (Priscili^v) Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 299 , . - 9 - correct. I sav I vould become either a vorker exploited for capitalist profit or an exploiter, or, since there are many in the category, I vould he one of the unemployed. >^ decision was unemotional, and not set off hy any fight vith my ATife since I have no vife. perhaps either I or Embassy officials had told him that most defectors had personal problems at home_^ At 15 I vas looking for some- thing that vould give me the key to my environment. My mother has been a vorker all her life. All her life she had to produce profit for capitalists. She is a good example of vhat happens to vorkers in the United States I asked him vhat her vork vas and he refused to say. Trying to ascertain vhat he meant by his last remark I asked vhether his mother vas old beyond her years or vorn out, and his reply vas "that is the us\ial end of people in the United States, isn't it?" He added: It's the end of everyone in every society. The question is vhy they end up that vay, for vhom and under vhat system they vork; surely it is the duty of everyone to vork, (Here he expanded on the idea that it is better to end up vorn and tired vorking in the Soveit Union for the benefit of all of society than to end up the same vay in the United States vorking for one private employer. He prefaced his remarks vith "I don't claim to be an intellectual genius.") Tlien he vent on in his philosophy; I believe that sooner or later communism vill replace capitalism. Capitalism is a defensive ideology, vhereas comm\inism is aggressive. Communism is an ideology vhich implants itself in every system and vhich grovs In the next sentence he raised his voice: I cannot live in the United States. I shall remain here, if necess-ary, as a resident alien, Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. —Continued 5 300 - 10 - I asked him vhat was this socialist literature he had" read. He said rather wearily, "Marks and Engels." Which works by Marks and Engels? "The standard works." I specifically asked if he had read anything by Engels and he could not name any. Then he said he had read works by American Comraunists . So I asked him to npme what works and he again refused to say which works. (l have the impression, in retrospect, that he had made a point of not naming anyone who might have inspired him, either in person or by their books, to defect, but that he had at least had advice from somewhere. He seemed almost to hint at this . ) Then I asked him whether he had ever seen anything of the American socialists or thought of trying to reform American society through them? His reply was: The American socialists are to be shunned by anyone who is interested in progressive ideology. It is a dormant, flag-waving organization. Nor had he had any contact with the American Communists, he remarked. He said emphatically: "I never saw a Communist in my life. Only through reading Communist literature and observing American reality did I conclude that Communism was best for me personally." Then the conversation turned to reasons for his hatred of the United States. These reasons were: (l) Segregation . I was brought up like any southern boy to hate negroes. Then (2) socialist literature opened my eyes to the economic reasons for hating negroes. It is so that wages can be kept low. (3) My experience in Japan and the Philippines, where Americans are categorically hated for their militarist imperialism You'd expect to see it in . Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 21 301 . - 11 - Japan. But if you've ever seen the Naval Ease at Subic Bay in the Philippines you'd know vha^t I mean. Ho said he had sympathized vith Communist elements there and with their hatred of Americans AiriQriccuaa look upon nl,! foreion poopXon as nomothing to he exploited for profit. The only Filipinos who are well off are those who cooperate with the Americans. He said he had "been part of an Indonesian invasions force in March 1958 when there had been a Communist inspired social turnover. We sat off the coast loaded with ammunition and that was enough for me. Also in the Suez crisis la 195^ we were told we might have to go in.. So I asked him if this was how he felt about the Marines, why had he joined in the first place? He said, "I went into the Marines be- . cause we were poor and I didn't want to be a burden on my family." I asked him his impression of living standards in the Soviet Union and whether his first-hand observations had in any way effected his convictions about socialism. And his reply was, "They don't have as many hot water heaters and meat pies here but they will in 20 years, through an economic system which is leaving the United States far behind. Any material shortcomings I might see here caruaot influence me to return." Then I must have asked him whether it was Soviet social theory or Soviet successes, such as Sputnik and rapid industrialization, that had attracted him most. He replied: "It is the social system, not the successes, that attracts me." "At the same time, "he added, "the Soviet Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5—Contiuued 302 - 12 - Union would undoubtedly surpass the United States in terms of economic success." (During the course of the interview I had been struck by the fact that he seemed to spend his days sitting alone in his hotel room. He told me he had not wandered around the city very much, and the only expedition he had made by himself had been to Detsky Mir, a children's department store two blocks away, where he said he had bought an ice cream cone or tea. He was impressed by the size of the crowds there, and seemed rather proud that he had been able to manage even so small an excursion. In other words, I got the impression throughout the interview that he felt rather helpless in Moscow, had seen very little of the city and in fact was markedly uninterested in learning about everyday life, conditions or people in the country he had striven so long to get to.) I asked him what had struck him most in the Soviet Union and what he had seen there. He had been struck by "the love of art for art's sake" in the Soviet Union, As for what he had seen, he said he had seen the usual tourist attractions, had been in peoples homes and seen the whole city of Moscow. But he declined to name anything specific and my impression was he had seen very little, so I asked him his overall impression of Moscow. Moscow is an impressive city because the energy put out by the Government is all used toward peaceful and ciiltural purposes. People here are so well-off and happy and have a lot of faith in the future of their country. Material poverty is not to be seen here. —Continued Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5 303 - 13 - I, knoving many Russians vho vould have given anything to live in the United States, asked him the reaction of any Russians he had met vhen he told them his decision to defect. He said: The Russians sympathize and understand. But they ask mo why and a3?d very curious But thay understand vhen X •* ' speak of the idealistical /sicT" reasons that have hrought me here, vhereas an American woiold not understand. He stressed that these Russians that he had met were extremely in- terested in the material situation of workers in the United States, (l suspected a little that he wanted to "be treated as something rather special and so I asked him if the Russians he met paid him any special attention or made a "big fuss over him. His answer was "No. They d. n't treat me as any celebrity. ") These are my own observations in the course of the interview: He had repeatedly referred to the Soviet Government as "my Government." He said that because of his ann.oyance with the American Embassy he would not set foot in the Embassy again. I must have suggested it some point in the interview that he was defeating his own purpose, that by refusing to set foot in the Embassy out of pique, he was unable to take the oath renouncing citizenship. He justified his refusal to set foot in the Embassy by saying:- I have already axed /sic/ them to prepare the papers, I am sure that if I did enter the Embassy they would just give me the same run-around as before." (it was in fact his refusal to go back to the Embassy to take the oath that, so far as I know, made it possible forhim later to return tc Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. —Continued 5 304 _ li^ - the United States. I doubt that he vas consciously avare that he vas leaving himself this loophole but he may have had some semi- conscious awareness of it.) He stressed that it vould be an honor to acquire Soviet citizenship. I must have asked him vhy in his view the Embassy would be trying to give him what he called the run- aro\md. He called it "a prestige and labor -^saving device." Again I asked him the difference between exploitation of the wage earner in the Soviet Union and the United States since both countries needed capital for industrial investment and he had already agreed that industrialization was a good thing. He replied that people in the Soviet Union, as in the United States, get a wage. But the profit they produce is used to benefit all the people, and not just a single employer. They have an economic system that is not based on credit or speculation. My own note to myself in the stage of the interview which was toward the end that he has a very primitive -understanding of economics. Referring to his defection, he said "my reasons are very strong and ^od to me." He said he had given his passport to the American Embassy along with both verbal and written statements. He said he did not recommend defection for everybody. He said it meant "coming into a new country, always being the outsider, always adjusting, but I know now that I will never have to return to the United States, I believe I am doing right." He said he had been a Marine private, had to get out before his three years were over, had been discharged September 11 Johnson (Pbiscilla) Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 305 - 15 - "because of dependency, that his mother vas ill, that her situation vas the climax of that of the working person in the United States, that her health vas poor and that she vas living in Fort Worth vith his "brother. He said that she had been trying to phone him in his room at the Metropole hotel, "begging him not to defect, but that he just let the telephone ring. , Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 306 m ivios by Priscilla Johnson What a long, private interview revealed in the morning. Throughout our conversation he sat in an armchair, sipping tea from a green to one reporter about the troubled ceramic mug. More tea bubbled softly on a tiny personality of President Kennedy's electric burner in the corner. Except for a small accused assassin. gesture of one hand or an occasional tightening of the voice, Oswald'smanner was unemphatic. His words seemed chosen to rule out even a hint ^LJ'n a frosty November evening four years ago, of emotion. Yet in the notes I made as we talked I sat in my Moscow hotel room while a twenty- I find, years later, the repeated marginal reminder year-old American explained in a soft Southern to myself, "He's bitter." accent his desire to defect to Russia. With his In spite of his conventional appearance, I found pale, rather pleasant features and his dark flannel Oswald, from the outset, extraordinary. From ex- suit, theyoung man looked like any of a dozen perience I knew just how formidable the long college boys I had known back home. His name trip from the United States to Moscow can be, was Lee Harvey Oswald. even if the traveler has money and a command I had sought him out a few hours earlier on of the Russian language. Here was a boy of twenty the advice of an American colleague in Moscow. who, with only the money he had been able to A boy named Oswald was staying at my hotel, the save in less than three years as a Marine Corps Metropol, my friend remarked casually. He was private, had come six thousand miles with no angry at everything American and impatient to thought but to live out his life in a country he become a Soviet citizen. "He won't talk to any of had never seen, whose language he knew only as," my colleague added, suggesting that, as a slightly, and whose people he knew not at all. It /Oman, I might have better luck. was, I thought, a remarkable act of courage or An American defector was always good copy folly. for a reporter in Moscow, and I had knocked, I was touched by something homemade about rather timidly, at Oswald's room late that after- him the way he had tried, as he told me, to teach : noon. After what I had been told, I fully expected himself Russian alone at night in his Marine Corps to be turned away. Instead the young man who barracks, using a Berlitz grammar; and how he had opened the door readily assented to an interview. been reading economics on his own ever since he He promised with a smile that he would be at my had discovered Marx's Daa KapitcU at the age of ]:oom at nine o'clock in the evening. fifteen. I saw him as a little lost boy and, as such He came at nine and stayed until two or three boys often are, rather lonely and proud. Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 6 307 47 Finally, Oswald impressed me because he was I had been bi'ought up, like any Southern boy, to {lie first and, .is it turned out; the only "ideo- hate Negroes." When, at fifteen, "I was looking logical" defector I met in Moscow. Of the two or for a key to my environmerjt, I discovered socialist three other American defectors I encountered, literature. I saw that thg description it gave of none claimed to be motivated by a belief in com- capitalist conditions was quite correct. It opened munism. All appeared to be fleeing some obvious my eyes to the economic reasons for hating per.sonal difficulty,such as an unhappy marriage Negroes : so that wages eiin be kept low. I became back home. "My decision is not an emotional one," a Marxist." To me, it^ was as though Oswald Oswald insisted. He was acting, he maintained, wanted to convince us both that he had never fldlely eut ot an Intellectual cenvletlen that Marx- had a childhood, that he had been all his life a ism was the only just way of life. For this alone machine, calibrating social justice. he was memorable. In the months, and years, that About his father he was so evasive that I was followed our conversation, I had thought of him nonplused. "My father," he told me, "died before often, hoping one day to write a profile of this I was born. I believe he was an insurance sales- highly unusual defector. I, never wrote it, how- man." That was all. Not another word could I ever, for I felt that the key to this curious boy pry out of him. had eluded me. He sounded quite different when it came to his mother. She was ill, (^wald told me, living in Fort Worth with hla brother. "My mother has Dismally Lonely been a worker all her li^e," he went on, "having to produce profit for capitalists. She's a good ex- ample of what happens to workers in the United J. have suggested that nothing about Osw.ild was States." He refused to specify what work she more striking than his burial of the emotional — factor a denial, almost, that he had any feelings had actually been doing. I asked whether his mother was disillusioned, like him, or worn-out at all. And yet, looking back, I have two conflicting recollections. One is that he was struggling to beyond her years? "That's the usual end of people in the United States, isn't it?" he countered. Then hide his feelings from himself. The other is of emotion that would not be hidden. It was the came the denial of his own indignation. "It's the counterpoint between the two, I suppose, that end of evei*yone, in any country. It's a question of gave me a sense that there were gaping chinks in why they end up that way. For whom and under his armor and that he was too frail, psychologi- what system they work." In spite of Oswald's effort to depersonalize, to blame his mother's suf- cally, for what he had set out to do. Among the feelings Oswald could not conceal fering on Marxist "social processes," I felt that was anxiety as to whether Kremlin officials would 'here was a bitterness too deep for tears. Shortly after this he remarked: "I cannot live in the grant his request for Soviet citizenship, and whether his funds would stretch until he could go United States, so I shall remain here, if necessaiy, as a resident alien." Earlier he had told me that to work or become a state-supported student at a Soviet technical institute. Another was< anger, even if Soviet officials refused to grant his appli- cation for citizenship, "I would not consider re- directed mainly, at the time, against officials of the U. S. Embassy inMoscow. These officials, turning to the United States." Throughout the Oswald felt, had stalled him when he tried to take interview he referred to the Soviet government an oath renouncing his American citizenship. as "my government." Since Oswald had traveled thousands of miles Here the tension between his feelings and his to build a new life in Russia, I expected that he effort to suppress them became articulate: "I can't be too hard on them. But they are acting in would be wasting no time learning all he could an illegal way." about the country. He would be anxious, I as- He also felt strongly about his mother. About his childhood Oswald was reticent to the point of PrisciUa Johnson ihay be the only person who mystery. He would only say that he grew up first kneic both John F. Kennedy and Lee Oswald. After in Texas and Louisiana and had then gone for two gettinp her M.A. in Soviet studies at Harvard, she years to New York City with his mother. He n'orUcd for a short time in 1953 in the office of refused even to say what section of the city he Senator Kennedy as his researcher on Southeast Asia. Her meeting with Osxoald occurred during had lived in. Of teachers, or of friends he had her ttoo-year stay in Moscow as correspondent played with there, he said not a word. Only that, for North American Newspaper Alliance. She is in New York, "I had a chance to watch the treat- note in Cambridge, Massachusetts, at work on two ment of workers, the fact that they are exploited. books on Soviet affairs. Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 6 — Continued 308 — 48 OSWALD IN MOSCOW 8umed, to sec how tHe socialist economic theories social system for vhich this injustice is endured he believed in were working out in practice. That was the crucial thipg. Soviet workers, like Ameri- was where I had my biggest surprise. The life cans, he observed, %re paid a wage. But the profit he was leading in Moscow was a dismally lonely they produce is us^d to benefit all [here he gave one. Most of each diiy he spent sitting alone in his one of his rare ^vea for emphasis] of the hotel i-oom waiting for the telephone to ring. If people. They have -an economic system that is he thought it was his mother calling from Fort not based on credit and speculation." Somehow, Worth to beg him to come home, he wouldn't after listening awhUe, I concluded that his views answer. Every time it rang, though, he hoped it were rigid and naive, and that he did not know was some Soviet ofllclal calling to announce that his Marxism very well. his request for citizenship had been granted. In one sense, however, his outlook seemed to Oswald seemed to feel helpless in the Russian fitthat of orthodox Marxism. Not once in all our language. "I was able to teach myself to read hours of conversation did Oswald so much as and write," he said. "But I still have trouble mention a single political leader, not President speaking." The only expedition he had taken on Eisenhower, nor Fidel Castro, nor then Senator his own in nearly a month in Moscow had been a John F. Kennedy, nor Josef Stalin, nor Nikita walk to Detsky Mir, a children's department store Khrushchev,' nor anybody else. If he saw indi- only two blocks from our hotel. He seemed proud vidual statesmen as either heroes or villains, he scramble of Soviet shoppers, he had certainly gave no sign. On the contrary. For him that, in the managed to elbow his way to the fourth floor impersonal Marxist social categories —"exploita- buffet and buy himself an ice cream cone. He tion of the worker," the "capitalist system of insisted that he had seen the "whole city of profits," "militarist imperialism" —were explana- Moscow" and "the usual tourist attractions." But tion enough of the world's ills. he would not name a single landmark he had actually visited. For all his struggle to get to Destroying an Abstraction Moscow and his efforts to stay, he appeared to lack even the curiosity of the ordinary American tourist. i3 ince this brings us to the assassination, I am Although Oswald claimed that he had visited impressed by the terrible irony of that deed, if Russians in their homes, his vagueness left me Oswald was, in fact, the assassin. For Marxism uncertain as to whether he had actually struck has traditionally rejected assassination as a up a single unofficial friendship. He would only weapon of political struggle. According to Marx- say; "Moscow is an impressive city because the ist philosophy, those whom we call leaders only energy put out by the government is all used appear to lead. In reality it is they who are led by toward peaceful and cultural purposes. People the historical forces around them. The latter, in her are so well off and happy and have so much turn, are determined by the economic modes of faith in the future of their country. Material pov- production. Thus, in the view of Lenin, assassina- erty is not to be seen here." These generalizations tion was at best irrelevant. I doubt that Oswald and, above all, Oswald's ovra walled-in existence was aware that he was violating Lenin's writings led me to conclude that he was strangely blind. — — on individual terror when and if he pulled the Not only was he not looking at the life all trigger last November 22. I suspect, rather, that around him. He was making an heroic effort not he was not Marxist enough to realize that his was to see it. the ultimate anti-Marxist act. had a similar surprise when it came to his I I should like to make another observation that grasp of Marxist economics. For hours we dis- is outside my recollections. Oswald's defection to cussed this; apart from his defection, it was the Soviet Russia could, as it happened, have been a topic that seemed to interest him most. Worried dry run for the assassination, if he was —again about him now, I tried to warn him of the dis- the assassin. For both actions he had to acquire ar_ ointment which I felt he might encounter a skill: in the one case, Russian, which he had once he came in contact with Soviet life as it learned imperfectly at the time I met him in the ; really is. I argued that there are poverty and in- other, marksmanship, which he evidently mas- justice in any country, including the Soviet Union, tered much better. Both deeds took months to which is undergoing rapid industrialization. The prepare. For the first he spent, as he told me, two worker has to be paid less than the value of what years saving money, learning how to get cheaply he has created if there is to be capital for new to Russia, where to apply for a Soviet visa investment. Oswald agreed. To him, however, the (Helsinki), and how to go about contacting the Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 6 — Continued 309 bij Priscilla Johnson 49 proper Soviet officials once he arrived in Moscow. should like to mention that from the moment he For the later deed he had to purchase a rifle in- was arrested on November 22 it seemed to me conspicuously, wait for Kennedy to visit Dallas unlikely that Oswald would confess to shooting and for a route to be announced, arrange to the President. Unless, of course, his resistance station himself along it without arousing sus- were broken by extraordinary methods. If I picion, and so forth. Lee Oswald was a failure understood him at all, I believe that refu.nal to at nearly everything he tried. But two supremely cooperate with authority, expressed in a refusal difficult feats he did accomplish. I saw two quali- to confess, would have been nearly as much a part ties in him that could have been crucial to his of the social protest h€ was trying to make as the 8ueees8 In eueh; singrlo^^indodneBs and aeei'etlve> act of assnsalnatlon Itiielf, In my oplnl«n, tho two neas. would have gone inseparably together. "For the past two years," Oswald told me, Another of the ironies in which this case raising his voice a little, "I have been waiting to abounds has to do, it seems to me, with Oswald's do this one thing [defect to Russia]. For two attitude toward Kennedy as a man. I believe that years I was waiting to leave the Marine Corps." Oswald may well have been less jealous of Throughout those two years, during which he had Kennedy's dazzling personal attributes his — been saving money and learning the mechanics wealth and good looks, his happy fortune in of defection, he had been so single-minded that — general than many men to whom the idea of he had oven tnkon cnre to "form no emotional fihooting the President never even occurred. attachments" to girls, since such attachments Oswald was preoccupied with himself, not with might weaken his resolve. other men. The good fortune of others, their Throughout those two years, moreover, he evi- riches and fine features, did not define him to dently concealed his intention to defect from all himself as poor or ugly. Less than many men did wh'^ were closest to him. No one at home suspected Oswald strike me as "desiring this man's art which way his ideas were tending even when, at and that man's scope." I believe that the John the age of fifteen, he began reading Marxist Kennedy he killed was not, to him, another literature. "My family and my friends in the human being who was richer and better endowed Marines," he explained, "never knew my feelings than he, but a surprisingly abstract being, a about communism." Yet he had harbored those soulless personification of authority. (In a scorn- feelings for five years, and for the past year ful aside about Marine Corps officers Oswald indi- had been studying Russian at night in a Marine cated to me his contempt for anyone in authority Corps barracks with inquisitive buddies all over him.) That Kennedy, perhaps more than any around him! world leader of his time, happened also to wear If Oswald was seci'etive about his personal life, authority with a gaiety and grace that might well refusing even to reveal to me how his mother have aroused the envy of others is probably be- earned a living, what section of New York City side the point in assessing the motives of Lee he had lived in, or how many brothers he had, Harvey Oswald. he was equally evasive about the circumstances of his defection. He declined, for example, to say The Desire to Stand Out whether he had informed Intourist, the Soviet travel agency, of his intention to remain in Russia, how much he was paying for his room at XnJ matter how steadfastly he might have re- the Metropol, who, if anyone, back in the United sisted the efforts of his inquisitors to break him States had advised him on how to go about defect- down, I believe that Oswald yearned to go down ing, what Soviet government agencies he was in history as the man who shot the President. dealing with in his request for citizenship, or Even if he would not and could not confess, he even what books by American communist authors had, at least, to be caught. For if there was one he had read. While discretion was no doubt ap- thing that stood out in all our conversation, it was propriate in response to some of these questions, his truly compelling need —could it have been a he was, I felt, making mountains of secrecy where response to some childhood humiliation? —to other boys might have made a molehill. This tight- think of himself as extraordinary. A refusal to lipped, conspiratorial attitude that was already so confess, expressed in stoic and triumphant silence, pronounced when I met him could, however, have would have fitted this need. In some twisted way, been invaluable during the long months prepar- it might also have enabled him to identify with ing for the act of November 22. other "unjustly" persecuted victima, such as Sacco To enter again into the realm of speculation, I and Vanzetti and the Rosenbergs. Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 6 — Continued 310 50 OSWALD IN MOSCOW While in one sense Oswald may have wanted to back home? "I don't recommend defection for go down in history with a question mark over his everyone," he warned. guilt, surely in another sense he had to be marked It means, he went on, "coming to a new for all time as the man who killed President country, always being the outsider, always Kennedy. Conflicting as these two needs to be — adjusting." Lesser men, he seemed to imply, caught, yet not to c0nfess —may appear, in reality might not be up to it. But he was. they were part of a single compelling desire: As a means, however, of proving his "different- the desire to stand out from other men. ness," if that is what it was, defection seemed to To the trained psychiatric eye this desire must, have failed Lee Oswald. Back in Texas, people I have been written nil over Leo Oitwuld. believe, forjfot ull about him. Even amonsr tho RuHHluna, It became apparent to me, however, only after I he ceased after a while to stand out as a curiosity. had asked several questions arising from a sus- To be marked as the extraordinary person he picion I had that, for all his unassuming appear- needed to be, he had to perform a yet more ance, Oswald was merely another publicity seeker. memorable, and outrageous, act. How, I asked, did ordinary Russians view his That Oswald did, in fact, see himself as ex- defection? "The Russians I meet," he replied, traordinary came out unexpectedly when I asked "don't treat me as any celebrity." Somehow the him why he had been willing to grant me an way he said it made me feel that to himself, Lee interview at all. I expected a simple response. Oswald really was a celebrity. That he was homesick, maybe, and wanted some- Later on, I asked Oswald if he would suggest one to talk to. Instead, he surprised me. "I would defection as a way out for other young men who, like," he replied, "to give the people of the United like himself, might be dissatisfied with conditions States something to think about." The Man from the Alaska Highway by William Stafford SOME rainy mornings before citizens get up a foreigner in a white raincoat wanders the schoolground, appearing and reappearing, putting mushrooms in a plastic sack sopped with rain. I watch through my dim window wavy with water from the eaves. He's a road builder. He told me once the more a big freeway seems to wander in level country the more planned it is: "A straight road puts drivers to sleep. The knack is to find the curve and lean the driver's shoulder needs to find." Geese came over last night. Once he told me the Yukon bends millions of dollars worth, even without any gold. I looked at a map and saw that Alaska, the way it happens along, can never — no matter what — anyone says be just a state. Today I went out at first light. The road builder wasn't around, but I leaned with my umbrella and saw hundreds of mushrooms, almost hidden, gleaming here and there, nudging up through the playground. Harper's Magazine, April 1964 Johnson (Priscilla) Exhibit No. 6 —Continued 311 FD-aoa (B.T.3-3-S9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIf flON Dec«iib«r 6, 1963 Data SPEEDY JOHNSON, 5136 Horsftshoe Trail, Dallas, Texas, furnished the following IrsformAtion: On Saturday, November ?3* 1963, JOHNSON and a friend, IVAN T. MUNDY, were at the Turf Bar^ Ic-ated at 1515 Commerce Street, Dallas, Th«y had arrived at th«! Turf Bar at approximately 1:15 p.m, and had had on© or two bn ^ friend, FRANK BELLOCCHIO, came Into the bar. He had with him a copy of the full page ad which had appeared In the Dallas newspaper on the dsy President KENNEDY arrived in Dallas, which in substance was highly critical of the President. JOHNSON was reading this article aloud while they were seated at the bar and he and MUNDY were discussing the article wheo, a ma-ii approached them from behind ar-d rerarked th-»,t he had already be'n to the newspaper offlca co:nc»rnJlng the article which JOHIvrSON was reading. At this tlm* the individual also displayed to JOHNSON ar.d r^NDY three polaroid photoRrsphs of a billboard calling for the impeachment of Chiaf Jusi-ice WARREN. He indicated that he had Just taken these photographs and mentioned a location probably in north Dallas where the billboard was located. There was also som.e discussion at this time concerning bum,per stickers calliiig for the impreachment of Chief Justice WAPfiEN and the ir.dlvldua.l who had apprijached JOHNSON and MUNDY becam* rather excited and m.ade some remarks indicating he had not k-Dwn these stickers hsd been on display in the Dallas area for a considerable length of time. The individual made other remarks^, exact nature not recalled, indicating that he was highly insensed at the critic sm of Freaident KENNEDY. 5 This individual then left and El.J'^H SOLOMON, operator of the Turf Bar then told JOHNSON and MUNDY that the indlvidiial who h«d been talking with them was JACK RUBY. JOHNSON said that neither he nor MUNDY had not 8«en JACK RUBY prior to this time or since and could furnish no additional Information conc«mlng RUBY. C R si 12/6/63 Dallas, Texas ^ Dallas 44-1639 ot Fil» 9 Kw^Spvcial by -.• A . Agant PAUL L. SCOTT sBL _ . ., . . 12/6/63 / / -> I Data dietotad This document contain* nalthrr recommandatlona nor conclualonfof Ih* FBI. tt la Iha ptopaHy of tha TBI and la loanad to roar ouancr; 1* andIta eootanta ara not to ba dlatribulad outalda your agancy. Johnson (Speedy) Exhibit No. 1 312 /^^ ^./ iSLOS/tcTi Sanrld Johnston Exhll>lt 1 DsTld Johnston Exhibit Mo. 1 ^I -~-*4. 1 % f^^.i ^tM«i*f*Axra C^l^^'A^m . _ "~^ ^y ^j,^ ^rxm^fr- ^ Jt./^* ^T^m^t^ ^^'7'3gr>^ w^/^ i^.v^ ^'^/*p x*/. />^^&i^ -gy P /Ce/< *««::i> ^ «*'-« /i>'*-. >u// x»j 4<.<„*-»r .#-i> <^ ->^Wfe rMAryM*//A \ AT z-^^. /<»»..»y/f*5.. ^ c,^.-^^^Ai0.,.^Cy t>0'.»^ itu^/. <^ ^y^ \ M,j/ufiUs ^^^^ M^^ -*•>. /^^ «*/^ J>.e<^- >5«fc-t- >!r*'///>»yfe. -i X17- *y.-int--^\-'\- I.. ^JtVt--^ J.«W.«* v*,*.... -i'.i."*«4irtr> .\ Johnston Exhibit No. 1 313 mjMiK jii j rM iii fin jiiiM n i j i ii i David Johnston Exhibit No. 1 -4^i^':^' AT ^SSfU^ 44tM. i.j^/f'<>5fi*?^?I_ jftco^g^ 4t^l. S MfJJceJL ^^Si*f^y* /^*i' /^/<^ >V^ '*'*^ >fey/ .^/^i //<* y/Jf^ jS^fe A> Ao4/tA ^^^ ST^T-^ u^/^T^ J3^y rsC*^^ J^^. (-- . €C_..A*'<*JfJT* # AA> 3 SS 3 i!i IMjiiiii.ftr... wrrrf.iHiiViYi P^AtrA/M/^T /^^ yi^jf^^y OSA^/^jiJ> ^>«/i2>»*^0' ^O M'/S"^. :^/y^ 7 Johnston Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 315 David Johnston Exhibit No. 1 >3?ce ^*^ I -^t^x/wreT- < ^A^A^ftte^^ i>Siu^/.^ . ;?/f ^^^/ M ^t^*, ,^.P. /^T- Ahf^^^Jt/^ ><^>KoX235^«. //i^x/Ur»^^ J^/r ^u^y ^ ^^.^. Ma^^ ^/>£ a/,y^Fr:^ r^^,^^ c^j-a.^ xa>s ^>/^Arjr*^^s yi^ ^L,6^<^ Au<^4^ . . t.„ Johnston Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 316 SKTld Johnston Bshlblt 2 Spire 4»« -r^x/fi A J^e Af/t^^^^y ^siu/^*2> ^ VUAjUt^ % ._ . _ J.*»»- P^Xrr^^ a/fA»77^ Ai^^'^'^/a ^>^i«* f^ ^/>^> /^ W J?^X_ tf .M.^M<)A^y C/t^ a/exM9JiJ^S.^ ^^//»i^ A»/>'4Y^ U.^ O/er^e JUtS^ Ji*/^S >«/Vtf J^ /ftS^/tr^. Mfl^XffByj /A, /i/e«jaer St^JTA*^ ^/^* /^/fe« -^f^ VrKit tt^MMi^ J^^ >4v^yv.v«: *6.«r^ ^.^A^^s aA^ .^r^ tl. 3/neM^ ^y /4»,.«/y* jsujui^t'y J>r//>i. >«/»«« A^/»< tU A J»e, A/'<.AS^ A^y C/exm><: X/«». J>./^X /&/^*>2>^ g.it). Xiu.'mfjTiAf^ Jief/ aerm^r jiAa.^ J^/^ /^/A*. -a>«^ I 6. a, B^ooua/^ ja/.y Cjex/»^ ^a.y Jii,/Ap /€/.v« Jty*^. yf./l». ST*ti JfmJ^y /Vi>«*^/c,V, Om^M^*^ ^AjUjfi /S.//C* ^^'^• i a c < « 1 i « « I « # I •_ I « I i J*??**^^??*!***^''^ R#.*-V4^'>'*M*^75v>i :._ ^MaUtai^tetH Johnston Exhibit No. 2 317 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 22 CA/!>£'J: ^/j A-/^3^ /f-ZS-J^ /^./S^S- /.4/Ace ^CoA/^y^ ^r/'^^ry ^^^/exA/r J>^jCJ./h ^c^a'/^.THkh K^fiiUM^/Aj j J./L. CX/^c^J> ^ y r So3 Oys>>fjri^^^^ , fee. Kfe^i- i ^ /^ /^ r. ^MZ^/H.^ T^^A S Johnston Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 318 Form 141- AFFIDAVIT—Gtner. ^^"^ Johnston Exhibit 3 IN TBS NAME AND BY TEE AVTBORJTY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. PERSONALLY APPEARED be/ore ma the andnxfigDed autlioritr thu •ifUnt, who after b«iii( hj M dolj twonvi depo*e< and uyt your Affiant haj good reaion to keliere and doe* b«li«Te that oaa .._^_' T~ippy^^ -^y sAaa-ftynf Ali^—U/jA/k ^..^t -- - ;-•- ^fM-yj~ .^N Afainit the peace and dignity of the State. David Johnston Exhibit No. 3 I 1 Sworn to and tahacribed hefore me thi* the J^.?.?!t!d^T oL^y^OV^^A^yr A. D. 19 /J Affiant. i^^lrf«nt Criminal Diitrict Attorney of ^.DaQaa Coanty. Tezaa. Johnston Exhibit No. '6 319 C "ON ;»TqTMxa uoqcuqor pTABQ it > Q David Johnston Exhibit k Jbrm HI- AFFIDAVIT—Central. IS THE NAME AND BY THE AUTBORITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. PERSONALLY APPEARED hetote ma the ondenigned aathoritj thii >irUiit, who after I>eiiig by BM dalj (wonv, depoae* and aayi your Affiant haa good reaaon to belierv and do«a kelicTa that one __. Zi..eJ^, /Mvj/-^.x. Q.&uj.^LaL hereinafter atyled Defendant, heretofore on or about the_.0((? 7«/.day fi^/^C\f.Sjinls^yr:..A. D. 19.6..? in Ihe County of DaUai and Statr of Texaa, di/^awfollj U<0/.0L.>iJ3:tr.L.l.>f 5?.>I.4.7.W Ull.JrA.^$t..„.f.u.i^ i^ David Johnaton Exhibit No. Againat the peace and dignity of the Sute. 4 Sworn to and inbtcribed before me thia the ^.5.??«AaT oLyl^Ve>•^.ev-A D. 19.^3 Affiant. Bt Criminal Diatrict Attorney of Dallaa Coonty. Texaa. Johnston Exhibit No. 4 321 1] •ON ^TQTM^ca u^^BUHOf PTABQ s . <3 > t - 7S Q ..- m H ^ m lb-: £2 David Johnston Kxhiblt 5 yotm 141- AFFIDAVIT—Cencral IN TBE NAME AND BY TBE AUTBORITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. PEHSONAILT appeared before ma the nndenigned authoritr thu aifUnt, who after being hj naa ivlj fwom, depoie* and Mft yoor Affiant has good rea«on to beliera and doea beliere that ono .A-€.^-Wj!}iy^.^f of Toxa.. did(\unlawfal]y ..^f^.A^.....k^j^:R..'^.....>J.fi.//jJ......^'f _ .^Jo/h^.^^.^.J^ojff.&'/ltM../'.. _ : ^5 ) } Acainat the peace and dignity of the Sute. David Johnston Exhibit No. 5 and lobacribed before me thia the of /l^fM^'^iA^-y A. D. W.llmiiji if DaQaa Comity. Texaa, I Johnston Exhibit No. 5 323 1^ O \3 S 'ON ^Tqm^a ucqeaqof PV^bq }^ > !5 • FO'302 (R«T. 3-3-SS) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION i mmmummmmemtmrnmmmmmmm 0. A. Jones Exhibit Ro. 505lt- Captain 0, A. JONES, Forgery oureau^ i/tu-xaa j:uj.xv;c Department, advised that on Novemher a^l-, 19^3^ sGuletime shortly before noon, acting under the instructions of, Assistant Chief M. W. STEVENSON, he reported to the basement of the City Hall building^ along with all available detective^ from various burea\is of the Police Department on the third floor. He stated his in- structions were to help in securing area for the transportation ' of LEE HARVEY OSWALD from the Dallas City Jail to the Dallas Coxinty Jail. JONES stated that specific instructions given him were to see that the armored truck, which was to transport OSWALD, was placed into position in the basement. JONES stated that additional specific • instructions from Chief STEVENSON and Chief BATCHELOR were to use the detectives vmder their supervision to keep the press and news media east of the basement driveway. JONES stated he instructed officers in getting- press media back from the pertinent area' and in keeping everyone back after this area was cleared. JONES stated that subsequently Chief STEVENSON advised him that the armored truck is too' large to get all the way down the ramp, and that they were going to place two cars behind the truck, which was to remain at the entrance of the ramp facing Commerce Street. JONES stated, accordingly, at this time two cars were moved onto the. ramp behind the truck, and it was necessary for officers to clear the path for these cars to pull onto the ramp from the underground parking area and to back into position at the corridor entrance. JONES stated at this time he was standing approximately on the east side of the ramp and a little south at the point where the corridor enters the ramp or driveway. Someone said, "Here he comes." JONES assiimed this was with reference to the prisoner and, accordingly, turned towards the car to be sure no unauthorized personnel approached them and that the stationed officers were in the area. He stated he then lookeii. back toward the east,-^^ which time he heard a shot. He did not see the actual shooting and had not seen JACK RUBY. in the pertinent area. He stated he knew JACK RUBY some ten or twelve years ago, but did not know him well. JONES stated he had definitely not seen RUBY in the City Hall building during the pertinent period of November 22-23, 19^3 JOKES adde'd that when he had heard the shot he immediately shouted to officers to seal the exits and he ran to the acene of the shooting and observed RUBY in custody. JONES stated that his specific instructions to the officers T^^'"" A^^jr ^ 11/25/63 Dallas, -Texas w by Special Ay«nt B JAMES A. BOOKHOUT & JOSEPH M. MYERS eah- .: Filo # d,,, dictated 11/25/^3 ^ 7K^ kcH / V ''M ,r; .^^^ Thl» doeamani contain* nalther r<~^pQ-iandatlon* nor conclusion* oi th« FBI. II I* |'7__' -op«rlr oC th* FBI and U loanad to your a9*nerr>l^od II* conlani* ocoprt to b« dUtrlbulad ouUld* rour odsncr. (copy Jones (O. A.) Exhibit No. 5054 NO U-1639 2 \uider his supervision were to protect the pertinent area and to let no one in the area. They were to protect prisoner?/ and officers and were to allow no picture taking in the restricted airea. JONES added that he does not know the reason for the sectirlty falling down. Jones (O. A.) Exhibit No. 5054 — Continued 325 1 DL 44-1639 "November 26, I963 "Mr. J. E. Curry, Chief of Police "Subject: Shooting of Lee Oswald "Sir: "On Sunday^ November 24, 1963, at around 11AM, Deputy Chief Stevenson approached me in the administra- tion offices and directed me to place two officers at the Commerce Street entrance to the ramp leading into the basement of the City Hall. He said to instruct these two officers that an armored truck was enroute and for them to assist the truck back as far as possible down the ramp into the City Hall. He also told me to take any remaining detectives that were available on the third floor to the basement and place them any place they were needed in the basement to supplement .' the officers already stationed. Most of the detectives had previously been sent to the basement. I entered - after the ambulance left with Oswald and I then returned Jq\ to the third floor after Instructing the officers on ^!m^^ /a3 Jones (O. A.) Exhibit No. 5055 — Contiiuietl 327 I:L 44-1639 "tha doors to lot g^ly persons with Identlfloation come to the third floor. After returning to the third floor, I' assisted in the administration offices. "I had not seen a man that I recognized as Jack Ruby in the City Hall during the period of the investigation, until after the shooting in the base- . ment. "Respectfully, Vs/ "O.A. JONES^ Captain of Police Forgery Bureau" •^^r- ' '-- "'. ... mm. ^^ BATCHELOR and some other officers removed the newsmen from N \J the inside of the jail office and then continued moving '^ these individuals down the hallway and into the basement area. JONES was aware of an automobile driving up the Main Street ramp in the \in:ong direction during the process of moving the press back. He later found out that the driver was Lieutenant R. PIERCE ^ At ^this point. Chief STEVENSON approached JONES and Stated that there had been a change in plans and that two automobiles were now going to be used. 'These automobiles were located behind the press line and were started up and ha!d to drive through the press line to get into position. JONES >assisted in holding back the press lines during this process and gave instructions to all. officers near the jail of fice and the doors to a],\c>^-7 r'.n ^.No.5056 JONES,O.A. Depositioiu. " *- Dallas 3-24-64 12/2/63 Dallas, Texas ul 44-iWy at ,. FiU ? . „ — by Special Agent c FmAPD T, MARTTV f, VFWNn?TH P Dot. dictated 1?/?/6^ . HUGHES /eah a A Thla documut eootalna neither taeomiMDdatlone nor cenelua\bns ot the FBI. It !• the property of the FBI and U loaned to yoiu a«encyt it and Ita eootonta are not to be dlatrtbuled eutaldo. your a«eaey. Jones (O. A) Exhibit No. 505B 329 ^ f DL 44-1639 2 ^^^ ^^^^ ^° ^^^ automobiles dcvm ?ht i-^J^^u^^^ ^"""^ mLlV^^ ^^A Su^^^S^'' ""^^ ^° ^^^^- After the shooting JONES learned that Detective CHARLIE BROWN was the of the first automobile and Detective driver DHORITY, initials believed, to, be C. T.. was the driver of the second autLo- JONES was walking up "the Commerce ,u r. ^ Street ramo unfLntn-f^S^^^r.^^N^"^ '^^^ ^^^' "«^^^ ^^ comes," IromS b^.-^r^^^^^^ ^S'^^^'i^^^^- P^li^^ lines were again re-formed and JONES turned and gave orders to n^t?^ policement: in the vicinity not to let anyone the prisoner up the ramp. JONES noticed follow ^t was across the ramp and further on up that Chief STEVENSON the ramp from him^Pl ^''^ "BLACKIE" HARRISON was irthe general "^^^^nS^o^^^^^^^ then turned to watch the crowd and fyr-^T.-^^^^ the police '%^^^ ^''^' ^^ turned anrsaw^ ^Sscuf^lel i:wo ?rth/ scuttles in '^r of the ramp and, at this no^n^ the center gave the order to seal the exits and ' ?amps He then^ap^ proached the area where the scuffles were noticing at this point that the second taking p!ace ' closer to the jail door than he realized automobile was around it to get to the scene of the as he h!d ?o go proached this scene, he heard two or scuffle? A^he af three unidentified JACK RUBY Upon hil arrivarftihe s:er\uBY':L'in"?b^ "' ^"^ detectives whose nl^el'hf cL^ot recaU.'"''"^^ At this point, JONES noted that Lieutenant SWAIN of the Burglary & Theft Bureau, was having trouble holding back the crowd and JONES gave the order to get the prisoner back in jail and to help Lieutenant SWAIN. JONES, himself helped Lieutenant SWAIN and thereafter went into the jail * office where he saw OSWALD on the floor with a bullet V70und in his stomach slightly under his left rib cage. JONES then left the jail office and noted that at this time the ambulance was arriving. He saw OSWALD taken out of the jail office and put into the ambulance and the ambulance start up the ramp. JONES noticed there was a slight delay from the time that OSWALD was placed in the ambulance and the time that it left the ramp, due to the armored car still being located on the ramp, JONES then placed two officers Jones (O. A) Exhibit No. 5056— Continued 330 Il 44-1639 m the swinging doors just outside )n the jaxl offxce ar;d leave who had proper identiti- iidvised them to let persons i^ation. At this point or just after he arrived on the -hird floor, JONES told Lieutenant R. E. KG KIK^^EY to get :en detectives and go to Parkland Hospital. JONES, himself, lid not see the shooting, JONES stated that he did know RUIiY and had Imown him prior to 1952, when he ran the Silver Spur, i night club on South Ervay, He stated that prior to L952 he V7as a Lieutenant covering this district and had ^one into the Silver Spur, at the most, six times loolcing cor white subjects. JONES stated he lcnev7 the name JAC.C IU3Y, but stated it was doubtful he could connect the name 7ith the individual without seeing his face. JONES stated le never worked for JACK RUBY and he did not know the names Df any other officers who did. JONES estimated there were more than fifty people other than officers in the basement and that there jere tv70 television cameras in operation and one not in operation. He did not know the names of any of these in- dividuals , Due to the fact that JOl^S was recalled frcm vacation, he was not present at any briefing on the security measures that were to be in effect in the basement on November 24, 1963. JONES knew that the officers in the basement vjere stopping individuals and aslcing for identifi- cation and, in fact, he, himself, was stepped and asked to produce his identification by a reserve officer. He Imev? of no unauthori7'="^ person in the basement, with the exception of JACK RUBY,v;?i> 4.e saw after the shooting. Ke did not see JACK RUBY in the basement or talld.ng to any individual- prior to the shooting. Re did not see JACK RU5Y at any time between November 22 and 24, 1963. He stated he is currently Siding- im investigation of £'^y relationship between RUBY and OSWALD by SA'S JAMES W. BOOKHOUT and GEORGE W. R. i CARLSON, of the FBI, but had no knowledge of any relation- ship between RUBY and OSWALD prior to their current investiga tion. —Continued Jones (O. A.) Exhibit No. 5053 331 ,^0'^ Jc" -JL. I. i COAWERCE ST. ^ Jones (O. A.) Exhibit No. 5057 332 ^/f/^^p Q^^^^^l/ ^/\ Jones (Dr. Ronald C.) Exhibit No. 1 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 23 333 3 /r-^- Franliie Kaiser Exiiiblt C > c^X 18. DETAIL OF WINDOW SILL SHOWltsiX; PLACE WHERE JACKET WAS FOUND. /t f..-<:^.^ y'^y\y\j-^t^<^ tcT^'^' Kantor Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 339 .d • I' f<4?---| ^^.^^^ S* u^^<>/^^-- /-o-^,^ /^y is^^ /^^-^^^'^:.'^->-^'--^ ' — _,-'\„..-" wW-w-^^*'-^ J-^^^^^r-cr^^ujJk^ I X ^yX^'-^^ j^ o~ - :J Kantor Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 340 31 M iji i/y-- o^s^^^M^^Lr J^-^^'^''"' A^.v'|.;i5 (^^ "^ cy- \\^^\?; > > . M-- .,>^^^ ^^ pv^r^^ Kantor Exhibit No. 3— Continued 341 — —iir-rrn- iinpnTjwnrw—pa— innm 1 t.O;ir»" f^cjj ic>^-v*o Z^-' I "^ O ^' -rJ^'^^^^-^ .^<:>-^'^^ t _, , _ —' J^ .1. ' Q.w^-->^ y^-' i-'V\,\ ;-^.-"- y ^v /' :-f,.^^^'A-'-'V C<-V ^•^ !< ;^ ?"*;> --.At/' -^ V7 U Kantor Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 343 '-^^ • » / ^.t.'0/t\ „ v.'^^''iiiN;'"'-* ^" vf -<0';...; «'^^" u.v...''.^i' ,1'" . JbC>.. ott' -< . -ai^^^: i/ >X' 'vT '0--"^'%^^^ \ '„' fMiYi"; ,• Kantor Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. 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I . i. \^ Kantor Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 402 lod not'?s on -•3."! i-ros:l''r-nt Kennr-dy's oi\vp to '"rxaSjKov, 21-22, 19 -3 » taken froi tape rpoorder. Upon landing at thp airiiort in San Antonio, thu^.-^day, nov. 21, we arrived thi're at 12:30 ?."., exactly 2'+ hours and a Minute before^ thn ^President v/as to he shot. Onr prsss pl-ine arrived a_.;ii-o>:i 'lately ore honi- l/'^fo^e the Presi- dent, We arrived there also hefore. Air 7orcf 2, the plane bearin;^ the Congress- -ien„ w'e got thci^e in a Pan-Amoricari jpt, and it had hee-n dri?,zlln3. or threaten- ing to drij'.zle in V/ashington vhcn v/e j^ot to the '.•hite House at 9:30 in the morning and' left Andrev/s Air Force Base a little after 10:30. Tlie big jet sort of loafed alonr;, especially vmen it reached Oklaho^ig, cuttint^ dOvn its al- titude gradually and bringini; us in easily on t;".n'= at San Antonio. One of tne very first things that we noticed there vriiZTi war. that newspapers 'ere hoin^ sold .in front of the San Antonio airport — the headline of the jifternoon > daily nevrspaper bore out the fact that the President already had arriv.'d, and the unper "part of the story said that he was gr =;eted by rnanj'' thousvinds of cheerini^ ^)=ople. It was still the better part of an' hour before he actually did -arrive^when I first savr one of those newspapers; Several, other nevrspapc'r'-nen were re~.ar;-.l;v-j to each other that a paper- was takin;; a terrible chance — a risk, an obvious risk — in selling newspapers on the street to the eff^'Ct that ->the President was already there, greeted by thousands and nad" his way'' lo'-ntown, through the downtown section b'^'for'e pisny thousands, of cheerl-'i^ people, even before he'd actually gotten there. The Eexar County Democratic Chairnan (I have his na^^e in my handwritten notes), while I was standingj talking with Mayor McAllister, came up to the I-feyor and thanked hin pro '"use ly . for agreeing- to' cor.ie out and welco'iie the President- The Mayor bcin^ a !\eput- lic?,n and having rjot been invit;ed to co'ie out and gr'.^;-^t the President until about 2W hours earlier — ab^ut 2:30, he said, the afternoon before — which wo^ild hav.- been the afternoon of Wednesday, Ilov. 20. The Mayor ^--as quite perterbed at the politics of the non-political trip and, so, obviously, were the Democrats. There were no county or city lead -rs of Bexar County and San . Antonio on ha.:d to greet the President in the v/elcor.d/ig line,' v.-hich vras re-narkably strange, and that was because of the Libfral-Conservatiye split '•'ithin th'^ Texas Party, Lyndon Johnson arrived in a separate plane and- went i'nji9dia"'-'-ly to an office in the airport. There he renained fron view from thp public, and a's the .Air Forcte 2. plane, bearing the Congressmen, sat down, they vrent in one by one or in small groaps to talk with the Vice President-. Gov-. Gonnally arrived just moments before the President, having been in Houston 9rlier i'l the day,. I believe to deliver a noontine- luncheon address, (check). The central terminal buildinj; at the San Antonio airport vas crowded, about fo^iT people deep, at the picture windows facin.i3 onto the apron of the runv.'ay ' when the President and his wife arrived. An outdoor observation platform on top of t\\'- build'ln^-i- the builo'lvig being a very tall,, one-story structure people obviously having arrived earlier in the day were -about six detiio, I, — ., woald i;T!a;;-_ine, And as the President and '-Irs, Kennedy stepped off the' plane, and made their way through the reception line, the' crowd oh top of the, airport terainal building, obviously had co'ie to see Mrs. Kennedy, FoT they "nollered: Here, -Jackie; Look here, Jackie; Lobk over here, Jackie;, and as she snlled and waved, there v/as great applause froin the crowd , Mr, Kennedy beamed proudly also. It was a balmy day in San .Antonio. Qloads had followed us down fro" 'Jashington. They broke somewhere around the Red River and becar.e sparser- a."; vre neared San Antonio. 3y the tine wq got there, there were quite a few flakes of clouds in the sky, but it v.raa a warm, balmy day, a typical winter's d -y in south-central Texa.s-. It certainly was a long ride frO;T the airport to the point of President Kennedy's sneech; The route of the ir.otorcade going all the way into dov.'ntown, then out again in another directions All i;"i all the ride being about 20 miles . After the speech, we v;ere not 'C0_ co-ne back ou-t, to that airport, but went instead t,o Ke lly ^ield. So far as the Kantor, Seth Exhibit h . /c^;^ r/\f^K~C'^-^^ -/x Kantob Exhibit No. 4 403 — • kennpdy pr-fiss ''.:is coiicerned, the most PVentiJul u,-,rt of thp motorc'ide ridf \':\z t.'nc- rr\^.ain:j of the "pool" notes (I have exv.ct na'ur-s of t}\ose in Air Force 1 vrith the Prosident, in the Press pool). (There v;ere 2 press Isuses', a? thf.re would be in each othe cities. The pool notes vr^'re nv'i in e^.ch. as \-re .''ovp-cl throngh Son Antonio's streets.) One o" the' pool nen '-.'as Ji; Mfithis, for -nc-.rl/ i Oi the Houston Post and, now of Advance New Service-, which tiiE is the j--(rvlce for the Kev.'honse n^^/spapers. rie scored the hit of tire day by hc-viriT; h'vl >•. private conversation with Sen. Ralph Yarhoxou[;h in Air Force 1. Yarborou^h was an invited guest of the President in the President's plane. TJurin-^ the interview, Sen. Yarborough took a wonderful crack at Gov.. -John B. Connally. . 'vhen the pool report was read in the bus, the; reporters broke joat in lau.^hter and cheers at the Senator's rough-. troatp-.ent of the Governor. Thir wasn't becaUpe the reporters were on one side or the other-- or any side at all but this was £,ood copy, the feud., The liberal-conservative fight vras clearly o;i, despite the fact that President Kennedy had cook to niake peace between both factions. A fairly strong wind was blowing wher. the President mounted the .platforta outdoors to make his speech in Gan Antonio, The. disco'^forture of the Party solit and the v;ind had its affect. I believe, on birr, and the people on the platform. They looked quite a bit unccmfortable. In Gan Antonio, Sen. Yarboroarh was schedule to ridp in the sa^ie car Vrith the Vice President, 'Irs. Yarborouj^h and Lady Bird John. The cenator refused to j^ile in the car and rode instead in another one. The President was unhappy. '.': cause of the hit li-s.. Kennedy was making San Antonio, the riale_ reporters we -e anxious to get. a description, an accurate description, of what she Has v-earing. And so the stewardesses on the Pan-Ain press plane helped us '"/j.ite , a bit, and so did Marrianne Means of McarGt. Certairly not to be ior/,f:'t '"en in San Antonio 'was the recollection of Albert 7 ho.-'iaH of Houston, stan-'ir.^ ' on the ap.ccn of the runv/ay, .i/aitinii for the Prasider.t to arrive, vjith Jack Erooks. "j:, Thonas, v;ho was only to be the ^^uest of rionor at Preside.ni. KennediJ-'s address to be made that evenin,^ inHoustor, had been left of? the President's plane when it left yashintitbn, '.-Jhat haprened was (I ha.ve notes on this) , the Air Force placed Albert Thonas on Air Force 2 v;ith the rest of the rest of the Con^^ressnen. He said that hanoened because the generals were In charge of it instead of the sergeants. It i\fgs another political back- fire as the Presidential" tour got under way in Texas » V/hen the speech '-.'as concluded in San Antonio, as. the reporters hurried back into the. press buses, and the Congressmen got into their op(;n cars, the President and his lady re-iained at the side of the platforr: fro'i •.'hich the President had spoken. They let themselves be besieged by people anxi us to sha'-. s their hands an.d ask for auto:j,raphes. Mr. and 'Irs. Kennedy re.'nained there several ninutes, co.nplately inundated by peonle happy to see thera up' close. It was , late in the afternoon of Thursday i;hen our bl^ plane lumbered into the skies over Houston, circling, the city and setting down at the airport. '.'^ land just r^io.-ients Before Air Force 2. The crowd there was sizable. It r--^.n into the several hundreds^ It was not typical Houston weather. It was not very hunid at all. It was balmy, as it ha':] bec^n in San Antonio. It obviously had been a warm afternoon. There vms a roped off area for reporters and photo grar.hers to stand, facing the. reception 'line, and as soon &i ,the Presileni and his party had passed through the reception line, I ducked under 'the rope and v;ent to the place v/here Senator and Mrs. Yarborough vrere" standing. On n;/ vray, I apssed by the car set aside for Vice President and. Mrs. Johnson. Mrs. Johnson gave me a big friendly v/ink and a big "hi." The Senator and his wife were^standing tvro cars back. The Senators was looking terribly un- • comfortable. I a-;ked him about the reports that he had refused to ride with t ;a.Vice President in San Antonio. "That's a nistake," he said. .Havln,^ .just said it, he looked even' more lunio jfortable then as a :.\an the r':otorcaae — — an of ric?^a3-. of came up to hi'ii ana saiu. "Senator, you are scnsdulec lo 'ride vriththe ''/ice President, You and KiTS. 'Yarborough." "That must he yesterday's schedule," said the Senator. He said: "Thate have been so.ne change; 7^ Kantor Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 404 Ivp r.eiy I think you'll fin', tlii^re's anoibher scho''.ule." And tie man began to protest so.-'.ev'hat' hplplnssly v;ith the Spnator. But .just then, A. Te>:as Hou'-c nenbor ca.ne alon,;;, fron Tnrthfir back in the motorcade .cars, I think it v;as .Albert Tb.onas, and said to the Senatot that there vaa auoth^r place for hin and Mi\=:. YTrborou;:'^ to ride (Check .seating in Houston motorcade). Tli-^re war> no nore troiible '.'ith the .iian and his motorcade list. There never weice ^any anti-KonnPdy ?i^n.'-; in Texas. I have notation.s on raost.of tho.^e s^en at the sid=s of th^ streets. Ilovfever, there were ev^ai fewer in Houston that there had bat-n in San Antonio. The long ride in fro a the' airport to dovnto'7r, Houston was vc-rr pleasant and at ti::ies the sides of the road v;er; '[uite packed ',/itr:; people. The r.iezaanine of the Rice Hotel was odequatc-ly set up for , the press. Tl.ere was a lar^e room with a bar in it and a tabl'-- l-'/len with fine things to eat. I v/ent to a nearby room, though, having f irsi.. Lalkid to sone of the peor^le on the Houston Press, and went to v/ork in a non which typp'-.T iters and good press facilities sot up. I wrote and then, dictated a story to 'Washington.' The story was the story of the day.' It was the story of political backfires and bad timing on the Presidential tour. Originally the President v.'as scheduled to leave the Rice Ilotel for the Albert Tho'^as finner at 8:-0 (check). However., it was announced after we got to the Rice Hotel, by Presidential press aid/e Malcoih-r. KildufT (Pierre' s second assistant' v7ho v;as handling all press chores on the trip), that Mrs. Kennedy -/ould make an appearanco with her husband on the mezzanine of the' Rice at a meeting of the LULACs (check). The President and his. lady arrived there about' 8:'-tO. They vrerc ru-ming late. The Gov.'-'^rnor v;as a-'nong those vrtio had spc''en to the members of the LULACs in the room before the President and Mrs. Kennedy arrived. Mrs. Kennedy's voice was thin. It was cultured. But with both of those, it v.'as also very v/arn as she spoke in Spanish to the LULACS and they, replied in kind with a tumultuous ovation.' Since the press v/as crowded into a position behind- the platform and off to the platfori's side in the'rooij, at the, door through vrhich the President and Mrs. Kennedy would arrive, I got away froi.a the crowd .and walked down the' hallvray on, the mezza- nine floor aiid was sta ding against the wall, v/aitir.g for the .Kennedys, as they wal';e'l past me. The Frosident turned to no, rrrailed and said "ht:"'lo.-' The tenor of the trip see-faed to 'change from thf; .lomi^nt Mrs. Kennedy made her brief her brieiS remarks in Spanish. Ve hurried to the coliseum , w'loih • is a"; out six blocks away from the Ric'e Hotel, and tire President vras greeted by a great ovation there; The trip v;as nov; a- happy one. The .pResident brought dov/n the hou.'^e with^vrhat appeared to be a slip of the tongue, when, he described a pay load' in the NASA operations going ofif into space from the station in Houston as being' "payroll. " The diaz at -fhe ooliseuMi -y.-as dle'Uated . Looking at.it froi.i the front, from v/here, all the dirner viewers could, see it, it ap.>'ared as tlidugh t,he people at the diaz Vxere seated in' a nor;:',al v.'avj but actually, below and beMrid .the diaZ: — there^ were steps leading down . to an area o'-'scured' from .public view. It was curtaired off. In that area, stood the President's protectors — the members of tl'.e Secret .Service-- incase a f-^natic trie-] to come up from behind. It 'v/as a .basic protective step, .but one vihich the public really 'doesn' t realize is in efTect. Jiggs Fauver stayi-d behind .-.'ith us, in order to give the press enough time to file stpries by -. telephone .^nd overhead. The Presidential party and r.ttendant CongressMen flow . off in Air Force 1 and 2-. '.^[e left about an hour after they did. (check prior story, before trip, when Pier:re at brief ing, Mried to convince '.''.He House reporters this v;as a non-political trip, even to the Albert Thona? . . dinner, which brokw up 'tlhe reporters). A trnp like this is a dri' king tripj When vre goL on the plane, at Andrews >even 'before 'the plane began to taxi, , blool'./ n.irvs were handed out all ar'ound, and that \ins at about 10:3? in '':'i>. "voi-nirig. Tf'.-- rt^norters did a little bit of drii.king and whatever worl.' wss e.Tsent'ial on each 'phase of t'ue flight. You are keyed up. You 'ire on the go. 'V^;-\'i--^«u9/^ Pi^^^-'^e-ups. Nobody ge-t,s drunk, even when the drink: r,./ ^ets -// ne.!/xer la^e in one day. i^/e arrived at CarsHell i,^,*::, air force base in Fort ./or Ui 7/ . Kantor Exuibit No. 4 —Continued 405 — W^+UUVf — ker.nedy and v/ent by bus to the Hotel Texas. The President riad arrived th^re about an hour before us. There still vfere '-•lany people in the stroetn at the side of the hotel and lux the lobby itsplf was packed. It was 12:W5 a.rn. by the tine I got up to my room and got my lnj^;f,age, 1 had fully inth^nded to go to the Press Club, ac:!epting several invitations from people in the lobby old friends — and especially then to 20 on to the Cellar. I had pro'nised to take Felton V/est to the Cellar. But I saw another pair of old friends on the fifth floor, as I ivas joinjj to ny room — Bill Kavrorth and his vrife. They asked me to stop off and have a cup of coffee v/ith them in the coffee shop on the lobby floor, first. \ve sat at a table with Congressman Jim Wri^^ht, Texas Attorney General V/a^^joner Carr and Mrs. Carr. Also present v;as Cliff Carter of the Vice President's staff. Ralph Yarborough was upstairs ir. his quarters, holding a closed meeting with his liberal su.ioorters. (He also v;as called in by the President and told that if he did not ride with Lyndon Johnson the next day in Dallas, he could walk.) Pretty soon the Governor came into the coffee shop and sat down at a table two tables av;ay from ours and he began holding forth in a conversation i-;ith a small group of reporters, off the record. He was asked about politics in Texas and was asked extensively about the rift between the liberal and conservative forces. During this conference, he explained that historically a man, if he wanted to get into politics at all in Texas, would be a Democrat until only the most recent of years (roughly after 1955) , and that there v/ere many shades of Demicrats. I7hat appeared to be a major fight to reporters from the East actually was standard procedure in Texas. Besides belittling the rift, among Democrats, he also said that Barry Goldwater of Arizona had reached a zenith in Texas and that the election next year would certainly be a close one but that President Kennedy viould ultim.ately win. The Governor went back upstairs shortly after two o'clockln the morning. Henry Gonzalez v;as aother Con=;ressman in the coffee shop tal'/'ing to his friends. Felton Jest came in and had bacon and eg^s, and asked if I would go with him to the Cellar. I told him I'd had a little too much of a day, so he went on by himself, l'j dawn the skies were weepy. The Pr isident originally was supposed to speak to a large Chamber of Commerce breakfast on the mezzamine of the Hotel Texas. But there had been so much insistence on the part of people in Fort '..orth frora all walks of life — Jim Wright had prevailed upon the President earlier in the v/eek to step outside and be seen at least by the crov;d. The President agreed to go even further and said that he wo ild speak before the breakfast in the parking lot across the stro.-«t from the Hotel Texas. Hundreds packed into the area. Though it was raining, they began seeking good standing room positions even before dawn. With Jackie again getting a wonderous ovation, the President departed from his text, inside the hotel, saying he felt as he had he had felt in Paris. That he was the man who was Mrs. Kennedy's husband. Governor Connally. called a press conference to be held in another room on the mezzanine as soon as the President's ad3ress at the breakfast was ended. During that press conference he ans^'iered for the record many of the same nucstions which had b-^en ask^^d of him off the record e.^rlier in the morning in the coffee shop. The Governor's press conference had not beon on the agenda previously, and so we didn't have much time then to get to the i)ress buses and depart in the motorcade for Car swell air force base, and an unusual flight — from Fort 'Worth to Ballas. The side entrance, the 8th Street entrance at the Hotel Texas, was so packed v;ith people v/aiting for President and Mrs. Kennedy to come out that door, I decided to go out the main entrance, the Main Street entrance, and v/ork my v;ay around. As I was going around, I paused to shake hands vfith several old friends, faces which I hadn't seen in the past year and a half, two years or longer. I wonked my __ a- J.- j_.__ j-,-i-i_ _r. Oj.i_ _j J. _i 1_ 1-_.. J_ ..i.'. 1. -r. T T3 r'A ^T A 'U-™-! Tif^^y 't pil - --^^ --- - - the"^sun warout"by°now.'"i had my raincoat on my arm. .and held an envelope full of notes, and my protable typewriter, as I slipped the manure. The fall "as^ m Kantor Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 406 — 5555?5?'r'5';v— kennedy broken by my loft hand vjhich lancJpd finmrply in the pile of .stuff. This was neyt to the President's car. This ir^s a -n^ltur of t/r^nt d',;lL,jht to the le'-'as Con^ressnen vho were on hand. A number of them — four or five anyway f^ot out of their cars and came over to me. 'Henry Gonzalez, and Olin Teague both rn^kin^ quite a point of the fact that no natter v/here I go, I step in it. Malcol-n Kilduff, the assistant to Pierre Salinger ^ rushed up to me and said angrily that I vas not ^ioin^ to be able to ^'-'^ on the press goin^ out to Cars^.'ell Air Force Base-, He said you'll have to sit on top of the press bus unless you can so-iehow v/ash that s-iolT off. Kilduff vas in a ^^re^t mood that norin?;, because he had been among those who had gooe to the Cellar during the early morning hours. The President's departure roiite, ^oin.j to ^arswell, had caused quite a stir in Fort '.'orth. \;'e went out Henderson Av-;)",ue to Jacks'ooror Highway to- '7hite Settlement in the hdinky tonk region. On'^ of the •vhite House reporters spotted a couple of '-'omen stan-linj alongside the road as ve vjere on our way to Car swell and said: "Men, I fsT:^ think '-'e've .ia^t parsed a couple of hustlers. No, No, it couldn't be this early in the lorning. CouL'iit? " Being in Fort Worth was .lust as I'd (fleared it would be. I /;ot a look at faces just in pas.-;ing. One exanple v/as a large fork lift brou:j,ht to the side of the road as v/e were preparing to turn of" Jacksboro onto 'hite Settlement. Sitting on th fork lift were Harry Rubin and George Levitan. - They vere elevated to about a two-story level. They were sitting, up there, lau?;hing and waving. I had been married in Mr. Levitan' s house 11 years earlier. It had be^n raining in Dallas earlier in the morning also. As we flew in, "la'^ing one large circle in a 10-minute flight, the sun v;as out. The crowd bx at Love Field was by far the largest we had soen. once down, the President and "Irs. Kennedy broke ranks and walked along a vrire fence shaking hands v;ith dozens and dozens of people, and it seemed almost immediately as if the people in Dallas vjere out to convince the President and his wife that they wanted no part of the Stevenson affair or the a T fair a couple of years ago (I96O) vrith Vice President and Mrs. Johnson (then Sen. majority leader) dov^ntown. The crowds that lined the motorcade route, going dov.'ntown first and then out to the- Trade Mart, vjere iay^^iy larger than they had been in Houston, although Houston has more people. This was due in part largely to the fact that this was lunchtime. It v;as on our minds— the feeling that there could be some sort of violence, or a show o" aggravation to^-mrd the President or the Administration. The reporters on the press bus (I was on the second of the tiTO press buses this time) vjere talking about the" fact that we were due to go past Gen. F.dwln Walker's house as vre went down Lemon Ave., but that proved to be false. However that consumed quite a bit of time in the discussion among the reporters. They were also taken with the fact that there were mighty few anti-Kennedy signs along the motorcade route. One of the signs was : John Kennedy in 196h. A.nd on the other side, it said: Barry Goldwater in ISS^-.. As we turned into the dov;ritown canyon, there was just a v;hale of a lot of people. It was later estimated that a quarter-million people were on hand to see the Presidential party^ counting those at the airport and those lining the route l»'-ading into downtown, as well as downtown itself. They were standing so r.i^tir.es 10 deep at the curb, especially in the Akard and Ervay areas of Main Stre-t. I had a windown seat. There was no one sitting next to me. There was a mar. sitting directly behind me at a window seat (see notes for his name). ?Ie v;as talking to me about President Kennedy's plans with the Do.iiocra'ic I^ational committee. Now, this man shoul-3 not have been with the White House Press group. He rode on the press plane and was designated as a member of the White House staff. However, he was just taking a freeload ride because he v;as going to vacation in Oklahoma. (Iwas exercising the Washington cocktail party technique with him. I v/as listening to what he said, I was thinking that he would be a subject for an expose 35si piece because 2r his ride at taxpayer expense. I v/as looking out the v/indow for friends on i-ne crowds on the packed streets. A three-way activity while giving the aT)r:ifiarance ofi just listening.) He was a member of the Democratic Natl Committee. Kantor Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 407 d I .sa\>r faces of old friends as wg passed on Main rtroot In thr- vicinity t\'/o of Timps Herald, to thp north on Fi^ld. I sav; CharllR Catos ?nd the tlip business colu'.nist. The man was .sayinji that it wasn't public kno'-rlod^e -jpt but it vould be announced fairly soon, Prosident Kernedy was ^oltc to imke a fund-raising appearance in each Hfek of the 50 states. His a.')oearance in Austin scheduled for later that day would be the first, Texas would be the first, ad W9 nore would be conducted, l-iadin^ up to the campai.^n of 196U-. \ie were then in front of the Ballas County Jail Builriing, e-.ier^in;]; around the corner, onto Houston .Street which is bordered on the left by Dealy Plaza (on the west, the county jail bein;] on the east), (the man behind me was .going to take a vacation; a hunting trip into Oklahoma, I believe. Check notes.) Precisely at that moment, I heard tv/o shots in rapid succession, separated by about four second. The first shot, I did not hear for vre must have been still coming just around the corner when it happened . There was not instantaneous concern. A reporter sitting across the aisle from me, v;ho was bangin^ out a story of the President's speech to be made at the Trade Hart moments later. He was working from a prepared text. Scarcely looked up. Some of the reporters said that it had beon a pair of backfires despite the loudness of them. However, I looked onto the grassy hill near the triple underpass at the end of Dealey Plaza (the northwest end) and I saw a woman in a green dress struggling to run up the hill. I saw a man following her quickly and knocking her down. 'He lunged and grabbed her at the waist and palled her down to the ground. It ser-ined to me she had firel the shots I had just heard because by now I was convinced they had been shots. There was an emotional outburst on the bus right at that point. '\e, saw much panic on the grass at Dealey Plaza. I sqw a man drop to his knees, huddling tv;o children — — two small children pounfing the ground vdth a fist. To our right, on the other side of the bus, people v/ere still standing, v/avir.g flags, smiling cheering, not realizing what had hanpened in the handful of seconds just past. Our bus moved a few f:iet more and the faces of the people were changed. There were people by now screaming, pushing, beginning to run. We took off at a high rate of speed. The reporters in the bus were yelling to be allowed to get off the bus. I could see the photographers' pool car stoaped, just at the far end, under the triple overpass, as we r'='ached that point. Photographers were scrambling, out , running back tov/ard the Te"as School book Depository Bldg. It did not occur to any of us, concretely, that moment or furing the hectic ride to the Trade Mart that anything specifically had happened to the President. It seemed to us perhaps that someone in the crovrd had been hurt, or that the Secret Service had seen fit to fire on somebody for one reason or another. No one voiced any opinion that the President had been hit. We sat almost silently as the bus took us at a high rate of speed out Stemmons, having swung onto Stemmons from the triple overpass, I v/ould say at about between 60 and 75 miles per hour. — Those people v/e passed-- at the side of '^.termons had a strange look, a doubtful look, a look of surprise and disappointment. We didn't kno'-f that the President vrasn't ahead of us. Those people did and they didn't knov; what had happened. V7e brought to the side of the Trad i Mart. V/e i-;ere emptied out of the buses. It v;as then ve realized that something tragic really had happened because we were there all alone. V/e burst into a small, side doorway of the Trade Mart. A policeman, or tvio policemen stationed there, didn't wasnt to let us in. We insisted. "When we got past a small lobby and got inside, on the edge of this massive hall v;here hundreds of lu cneon diners were waiting for the arrival of the President, vie realized (with soft music playin^ ar the rustle of plates and silverv/are) that no one in that massive place knew yet that anything had gone wrong, (appeared to know). We asked al^out press facilities. We didn't ask. V/e were excited. VJe were demanding. We told to go to a press room on the fourth floor. V/e expected there to get an announce- ment. V/e ran up the moving stairs of an "esculator (j-t seemed plausible that vihen v/e got there, vie would be ushered into a balcony area, reserved for the pr-!ss, so we could see the President make hi? speech and know that he was, . . all right. V/e thought perhaps someone else might have been hit or nearly hit). 'ere minutes ahead of me. I concentrated on Yarborough's feelings of sight and sound. I saw' the priest ;o into thf= e-'V'-rgency area, the floor being guarded by a somber-looking 'ecret Service man with a small white buti.on in his lapel, designating his role as a Secn^-t Service man. I sav/ Mrs. Jolinson, shaken, v/hite, V'Ping escorted Dut of the area ,supported by the arms of tvro men. She looked as if she rould be ill in another moment. I finished phoning, \-.'ent again into the iallv;ay. Albert Thomas and .Henry Gonzalez were standing together near the nain o^^iergency entrance doorway j leading to the outside. I asked if they could t-11 me anything more. Neither one seemed able to talk. Albert Tho-ias, «;ho only the evening before had been so lavishly praised by the President the Houston testimonial dinner, and who had been urged earlier in the yeay ?v the President not to retire from Congress at the end of I96W because of ^ -^ l^eith. V7as able to tell me that a nuerosurgeon had been brought in, I 1)1 realized then that the President had been shot in the head (a fact thfio most y /, )f the nation already knevr because the pool renorters saw the head wound at , about 12:35, when the President was brought to the hospital emergency entranc.e_. Kantor Exhibit No. 4—Continued 409 3 o-"'""^ :"'">''— kenni>rly At that mopient, Malcolm Kildurr, a tra-icaVy chaniPd person fivo.i what he had ber-n the last tl'^ip I'd talke'.i to him, in Fort 7orth less th'in three hours earlier, cane walking briskly past my rear and said he had an annourjce- ment to nake and to follov; him. Merriran Sraith of JPI and a couple of tother reporters (Al Cromley of the Oklahoman V'ashin^ton 3)ureau v/as one) ca'^e along at the same time. Vie vient out the-emer;^ency entrance, turned to our left, walked onto the grass, turned left again around a corner of the building, vralked up a slight grassy hill, climbed over a short fence rail and went into -'-nother entrance of the Hospital. Heading tov/ard a stairv;ay, I felt a tug at the back of my coat. This v/as the Jack Ruby incident. Going up the grassy hill, Merriman Tmith was pleading and demanding that ralduff . tell us then and th^re v;hat the announcement would be. Kilduff strode quickly and said v/e v/ould have to wait. Kilduff 's face was grayish when v/e got into a second-floor classroom. It was ja-;'ied v/ith reporters.- He stood behind the desk at the head of tho classroom, in front of a wall blackboard, his fingers extended, spread on the desk-top, supporting him, wetness rolling down his face. Tears or sv/eat. He made the announcement in measured tones, his voice verging on breaking down toward the end of it. There was an imeiiate • rush for telephones. He said there would be a furf'^er statement in another 10 •ninut'->s or so. He fixed the time of the President's death at "about 1 p.n.y I v;ent ot an office dovm the hall and placod a call to '-'ashington. It '-/as difficult getting a line out of the hospital. The nurses in this office-- there v/ere a handful — — seemed to b'e stunned and they looked at each other dreadfully as they listened to ny conversation to VJashington. A western union lan who bad b 'en with us since we came down fro'.i froi Andrews Air Force Base came into the office. A nurse asked hin about a report that a Secret Service agent had boon killed out on the street. He said tho^ it was true. This was one of the immediate rumors v/hich sprung up . It took several days for this particular rumor not to be believed in Dallas itself (fellow in Jaggars-Gtiiles-Stovall:^ who got it from a friend v/ho got it from a postman supoosed to have been at the death scene that the shot and bleeding SS man v/as picked up and vrhisked away and it vras all hushed up. V/hy? I asked. Because they even have to die in secret, he said.i He and others hinted, that maybe the So nan was in on the plot to kill the President.) Ay office, by now, primarily v/as interested in what v/ould happen to Lyndon Johnson. V/ould ho remain in Dallas for minutes, hours, a day perhaps, or :!ven for the vre-kond? It v/as a matl'.er of from where the U.S. wo Id be run. The ©"'"ice v/ould send Jack Ht :ele to Dallas to be 3 v/ith me in .the event that the Vice President would remain for any length of time at all. ''t 'cle v/as already home, packlj2g. ( 'fnen I v/alkf>d outside at about 1:2? v/ith Kilduff, Mr. -nd "'Irs, Johnson were going out, too, under heavy guard. They looked vrretchedly grim. LB J thought the chances v/ere good that he too v/ould be a target in the next fev/ minutes.) Steele v/ould bo covering the events surrounding the new president. I would be covering the police angle. It v/as curious to me, when Egger said that, I had given no thought as to A-/ho did this thing or why, though moi-e than an hour's time nov/ 'nad elapsed, except for the feeling of revulsion I had for the Dallas rightwing extremists xh when I learne-i in thp Trad" Mart that Kennedy had been shot. I fought back v/ords I want to scream,, while ru. ning for that station \'i3.goni^J^'^j. daam you, Dallas. Smug Dallas. God damn you. It v/as all the worse because Sat in the Trade Mart in a gay and festive mood. By now, the classroom, the makeshift press headquarters, v/as .ianmed. It vi-\s as if city editors had reached O'l.t and hurled people into the hospital. There v/as Bob Gait, the bov/ling writer, Elston Brooks, the entertainment columnist, Latryl Layton, the society editor. —all good and cap'-ble anyway, but oddly gathered. These v/ere people I knev/ v/ell and hadn't seen in at least 1^ months. vJe looked through each other. Nothing much shov/ed on the out5;ide. iHxi:S3q; the reporters were bl.=-eding internally with tears. They dripped into the sto-iach. They splattered in there wifebixp and made puddles of grief. A doctor came into ^ the room — at least everybody thought it ^-/as a doctor. It v/as Bill Stinson, m iAa?g^Sc3^°^org9i^i/^iAy3o{^?:a!5r} is HFsisgiiH^giSigaff^tYiligst^'jjiRriia blackboard and said to him two times: "One O'clock. One o'clock." ^f to the// Kantob Exhibit No. 4—Continued 410 — 999T'999 — kennody (description of Kilduff viakin- his first annomcenf.Tit at 1:30, standlrjg behind the dos'.c — it was not so nuch the vhiteness in his fini;ers as he pressevi the-:i on the desk top, or tlie look on his face. It vas the color of his eyes. They are a rich blue. But they were nov; pale, the blue and whit^-ness running together in a milky v/ay.) Although CJtinson explained im-iediately that he v;as not a doctor, the first questioners, perhaps the first two or three, called him doctor as they a-.ldressed him, Stinson came with the announcement that the Governor was in eytre^^.ely serious condition, but v;ould live. Julian 0. Rsed, doing public rela- tions for the Governor (on hand since the v^jan Antonio stop) explained on the blackboard for reporters v;here the Governor and Mrs. Connelly and the President and Mrs. Kennedy weri sitting in the car. The/ took a couple of different tries — with the help of Bill "tinson — in getting the seating arrangement down right for the reporters. Stinsofi described the Governor's wounds. There was an announcement that a pool car was needed to go out to Love Field, and since there was no explanation in depth as to why only a handful of reporters left. I ran down the stairs with them. I decided, by the time I got do-'.mstairs that without knowing • what the purpose vrasy it v;ould be foolhardy to go out. This pool car was the one which went out to attend the si^'oaring in of the new PresiTPnt in Air Force One. I talked to Henry }onzglez, outside the hospital. He was clutching a paper bag .and harily able to talk, tie said the the bag contained the personal effects of Gov. Connally. Ke sai< he had just se ^n Mrs. Kennedy leave v;ith the body of the President. He had helped her into the hearse. Returning to the upstairs or ^ss head- qu'^rters, after talking v/ith Sen. Yarborough, Mayor Earle Cabell and other Texas Congressmen, I found the two doctors who had v/orked on the President — one on his head and one on his throat — were describing the condition of the President as thoy found it and as they had worked on it. They spoke almost entirely without emotion and answered each question, except that they obviously — pinched by the pressure didn't understand the relentless probing of reporters, ham.nerlng questions in an effort to get every last detail. and get it reduced to the si'.-.plest of terms. The two were al'iiost cutting in their ansv/ers. Jiggs Fauver announced that soon v:e would be going to Love Field. Kilduff was no longer there in the press room. I was coaqerned with getting ny lujgage off the plane because I knew I vrould bV-staying at least for some hours. V/e entered the prf^ss buses and received a police escort going out. Ther" vrere already (check time) scores and scores of peopla standing, staring at the hospital, as if they could see something, as if something could be done. It was the same at Love Field v;hen we arrived there, except that people were much farther back from being able to see anything than they were at the hospital. Our bus vfas held at the edge of the runway because the endings of Air Force One vrer being revved. The plane was beginning to taxi. As soon as it taxied into a position ready for takeoff, one of the members of the press corps from the Love Field pool (Sid Davis — Uestinghouse) ran up to us and stood on the hood of ikK a car and explained everything that happened during the swearing-in inside the plane, just moments before. 1 thdn ^rent to the Pan-Am press plane and got my bag off. The stewardesses looked old. I then went into the Love Field Terminal and phoned my office in VJashington. (explain difference bet^'^een Scripps- Koward and v/ire service). I told my office was heading for the jail dovmtown and that Lyndon was sworn in and vfas heading back. I rode ,/ downtown with Andy Hanson, photographer for the Dallas Times Herald W and with Bob Hollingsworth, ray former city editor on the Times Herald^J v7ho now v/as the paoer's VJashington Correspondent and had pullea nis and lo was bag off the plane, too. W^ had the radio on, going downtown, Kantor Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 411 10 — kennedy the first I'd h^^ard that a man nmod U-.e Harvey Osvrald had boen arrested and that a policc.-ian had boi-n shot iov;n dead, and. that Oswald had a history on the c-xtrone loft, rather than on the e/trene right. This ''/as by now about 3:15 (check notes), or about 2 hours, ^5 minutes after the President was shot and tv/o hours after Oswald v;as captured (nearly two hours) in the Te^as Theater. I got out of the car outside the Times Herald Eld^ and stood on a corner on r.lm Street, tryinji to find a cab and there wer^ none. Waiting 10 minutes , I set out with my bac port.-ible typewriter, coat and envelope of notes for , the Da].las police station, a distance amounting tisR to the vrest-to-oast length of downtown Dallas, about a mile (the area of dovaitown v/hich hole all the larje buillincs). I checked into the White Plaza Hotel, put my belongings into a 10th floor room and went iri^iediately to the police station across the street (caty-corner on Hai'vrood). There v/as no excitement downtov/n. There was no outward ernotion. There v;as no weeping. There were no speeches. People were in the streets, waiting in line for buses, in their cars, walking. There were grim looks almost ever:/^//here. Stores were open. I had trouble getting onto the third floor of the police station, I had to shov; my credentials in order to be allo'-/ed into the hallway which by now was cloi^^ed wit.h reporters — a nevr set of reporters, for only a few of us took our belon2ings off the press plane and stayed. Most were going back to Washington. I only had two recollections of Lee Harvey Oswalcl. The first one was in 19^0, while I still wa?^ on the Fort Worth Press. He was a fellow who had been in the M'^rine Corps, I'd remembered and had gone to Russia, I'd rem<=:abered. Kent Eiffle had arranged a three-'-/ay telephone conversation in I96O among himself, Oswald in Russi and Oswald's mother in Fort IVorth. I.'ow, it took several hours to arrange the call trans-Atlanticly and trans- continentally and get the call into Russia to where Osv/ald v;as. At times it seemed it would be impossible to get the call through, but at last the call v;as ready and Mrs. Oswald was on her line in her home and Kent Eiffle, sitting directly across from me at the Press city desk, v/as on his phone, and here came Oswald on his phone in Russia. A.s soon as Osv/ald found out that it v/as his mother on the phone in Fort ''.'orth and it was a nev/spaperman vrho had set this thing up, so she could talk to her son, Oswald hung up. All those hours down the drain. The o'her recollection I had was that at some point last year there were stories in the papers that Oswald was coming home. I clipped out a story from the Fort V/orth Press stating that he was due home at such and such a time. I thought that should he come to Washington to straighten out his papers or his affairs, hsx I would want to talk to him. But to my knowledge, he never did come tm Washington. There vrere dozens of reporters clogged in that hallv/ay, which stretched from an entrance way where the elevators (two of them) opened up on the third floor, to the press room at the end of the corridor. In between, starting at the entrance way area was a door which led to an elevator going to the Jail cells upstairs where Oswald was being kept at intarvals. k couple of doors down on the same side, the right-hand side (east side) was the homocide office, where Capt. Will Fritz holds forth. Kext door was forgery & robbery, then auto theft, then the press room. That hallway was to remain clogged with the humanity of reporters for the next three da^/s. The hallway v;as about 25 yards long from entrance way to press room (the southwest vring of the third floor is what it was). I stayed pretty much' in touch with my office in Washington — perhaa^ three M ;/ phone calls— until shortly after midnight when the Oswald press conference v;as held in the police assemoly room. One old acquainLancexl v/ho I saw v;as Vince Drain of the FBI and in subsequent conversations as the hours wore on, Vince told me^that he was flying the. two Oswald gund to Washington sometime during the night or early morning hours. I Kantor Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 412 — 11 — Kennedy nlso loarned fro-n Vince that there had been ti/ro bullets vmich had hit the President, I assembled these and other facts Tor story for -t •Saturday's papers and in subsequent conversations with Chuck E^jer in l/ashin^ton, I tried to put the therms of a story together but EjiiGr felt the story would becone clearer as time v/ent on — it v;ould take more facts which would have, to hold up for Saturday. My facts v;ere fine for spot news. They v.'ere new. They v/ere cood scoops. But they v/ouldn't up throut;h Saturday. I was v/orking hours ahead of the news now, as a goil for a story. At intervals, Oswald's wife v/gs brought in and his mother, and his two small children, alon^ with ;-Irs, Ruth Paine to do the interpreting, and her two children, Osv/ald himself was leiff at intervals bwteen the elevator-cell foor and Fritz's door. Each time Osv;ald passed through the hallway, an ailse v/gs cleared wide enough for him to v/alk, v;ith no extra room. His hands v;ere manacle^d. He griinlj'- refused to answer questions. Each time F:^itz mov 'd fron one doorway to the other, when he did not have the prisoner in tow, he was deluged by reporters so thickly gathered around him that he could not be heard beyond the first tight ring of ears around him. people flat against him. Besides, Fritz speaks in a low, rather gravelly voice, A custom was begun almost immediately that the reporters up close would pass the word to reporters behind them, V/ith the number of radio and television people, reporters were Ijains interviewed by other reporters v/ith microphones. During the evening hours, at least one planeload of reporters from the F.ast arrived. Hew York City and V.'ashington primarily. These incl';d"d foreign correspondents of foreign nev/spapers, stationed in the U,3. Chief Curry was more than aware of their presence, and so he held what possibly is one of thomost unusual press conferences in police history. In the police assef.ibly room, in the basement, past midnight. At about 12:15 a.m., Oswald v;as led in. Reporters and photographers had b-^en pre-warned that an^ movements to>-ard Oswald — any unusual movements — any flurry of shouxed questions (such as had be--n goin^^ with poor Capt, Fritz) (reporters shouting, yelling, holl-:ring 'juestions, drowning out other questions, drowning out the answers) — Oswald would be led out immediately. This press conference was something akin. I guess, to something you night conjur up for the Middle Ages. Some thing like a press conference in ancient Home. After it .'as over, I typed out a story and phoned it in. It v;as about 2 a.m. (3 a,m, V/ashington time). The majority of our staff in Washington v?asstill at v/ork. If I had any apprehension before other .reporters did in the bus in the motorcade in Dallas that something had happened to the President when the shot sounds were heard, it was • because it was my first Presidential trip and I ^^ras more apprehensive perhaps about everything that happened or \>/as about to happen than the veterans, Saturday morning after getting up and having breakfast my first solifl meal since a good hot lunch on the press plane two days, earlier-- (there had been no time or no desire to eat in the eventful hours since then, I felt a substantial weight loss Immediately, As I write this (Dec. 28, five weeks later, from notes I taped on a recorder tv/o weeks earlier) I still have not gained back to the weight I was at the start of the trip, Nov. 21). I noticed during the days that follov;.-d in Dallas, I had little desire to eat much, and rarely ate more than twice a day, though my work hours often were from early morning until about 9 p.m.; most of it on tht; constant go), I wnet next^ door xo aoor ,tha noxei to ,xn" Saturday morning, zo hotel aaxuraay to Titche-C-oettinger and bought i ixcne-e-oexxinger- s ana ' nou-nu ^7 a couole of shirts, some underv/ear and socks, brought them to my room t^ and went back to the police station. Chief Curry I think had be^'n^intei: ested in showing the nev/ reporters vrtio'd come covrn from the East Frida^v iy ni-^ht the ^fact'that Oswald was unharmed, except for his skirmish in the —Continued Kantor Exhibit No. 4 413 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 28 12-- ICrnnody Texas Theater in O^k CliPf while he was i;ryin,; to rasirA. v.^rost. Curry was anxious to shov/ that there was no police brutality (pf'rh't.ps anticipating such a complaint by Oswald in th'? course of rooming a confession). The Dallas police department v;as on show Tor the entire world ,, especially with television and radio facilities being set up on the third floor. Ue were not confined to the press rooii for v/ritir.g and telephoning, because very few people could fit into the press roon. There were three telephones and two desks, as well as a couch, with two typewriters in the room. Police offices on the third floor v;ere overflowing with reporters working; on typewriters and using telephones through that v/hole weekend. The whole daysx was spent in the police station Saturday and almost entirely on the tiiird floor. Tlie luestioning of Osv/ald resumed. There were more rumors. Ther^? v;ere more questions shouted continually at Capt. Fritz, v;ho looker: tired but V/-ho v/as used to putting long hours to crack a good case. Early Saturday evening, Capt. Fritz said that based on his ex';erience, Oswald v/lll never admit the cine of killing the President. He said, based on his information, though, there is no other suspect besides Oswald and that Oswal'J v/as the man who had murdered the President. Not long after, about 8:15 P."i.> Saturday, Chief Curry made the announcement that later v;as to come — back and haunt him. He gathered or merely stepped out into the hallway on the third floor and didn't have to gather — the press. You could barely breathe in that crowd around the chief. It formed about hir in a flash. He manuevered into a position before the network TV cameras. The crov/d there A^/as so large that one reporter was making his notes on the back of Chief Curry. HT^ had his notepad placed on the right shoulder blade of the Chief and was writing as the Chief talked. The Chief said there would be no further questioning of Osv/ald during the night. He said Oswald vrould not be transfered to the county jail during the night. He assured us that if v/e were to arrive by 10 a.m. the next day, \-je vrould be able to see for ourselves the transfer of Oswald to the County Jail. He did not guarantee that the transfer would take place at 10 o'clock but he said that we would have time iix to see it if we were there by 10. Discussing this among ourselves immediately after the Chief made his statement, it was generally concluded that Oswald would indeed b^ transfered during the night. We fully expected it. I don't knov; of anyone who was planning to have his feelings hurt if such a raiddle-of-the-night move^ happened. (next notes — include Ruby's appearances Friday and Saturday night, the chicken letters, the overv/helmed reporters staring at each other) Kantor Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 414 — 13 — kennedy By Saturday night, the executive offices of the police dfOirtmnnt on the other end of the third floor corridor (the southeast win^i) rapidly with mail, telegrams from ill p.?rts of the N^rere filling, up country. Telephone calls were being noted on legal-sized paper note pads. There was correspondence and phone calls from many narts of the world. Fron Australia. From r.ngland. From other countries. Some v;as in nature of criticism of the Dallas police, cepartment for allowing the assassination of the President to ha;^i:en in Dallas. Some came from araateur sleuths. Sweet old ladies in Des loines and so forth, who had th^ir own theories as to how to trap Osi;ald into the admission that he was the assissin, or how to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was it, \pened. V/e were strangely isolated. I didn't know whether Connally alive or v;-a.'-~ if he v;ere alive, how he was doing. I didn't knov/ if A.ir Force One ever landed in Vi'ashington, or was President Johnson in seclusion. I didn't know what happened to President Kennedy's remains except that they had been headed for Eethesda Naval Hospital, a few blocks from my home. I didn't know what life existed two blocks beyond the police station. I wasn't calling any friends. There was no tine. More, there was no thought of them. My office had called my wife Friday and told her I wasn't coming home immediately. I still hadn't talked to my vrife. I called her late Saturday morning. She was out with the children. I talked instead to my mother who lives in Washington. I was wholly interested in any movement, any thought, any vrord on that third floor. I talked to my v;ife briefly Saturday evening from the Dallas police station, told her little and didn't ask for any news beyond how she and the children were doing. For me, at least, the third floor of that 50 year old building, newly, tastefully done over on the inside, was the only place where life existed in the world. I didn't ask my office for any other nev^s. I doubt if there was a reporter there who had not been at one time or another on a police beat. It was a return to that type of story again, except that any police story before, for any of us, was just a preparation for this one. There were many questions still to be asked of Oswald. Many tests yet to be given to him. In an effort to unravel the mystery of why John Kennedy v;as murdered. But of all the /); tests to be denied by the next day's brutal slaying of Oswald v;as on^^ that was inevitable — a psychiatric test. When aroused, I wondered. j» vrould Oswald slam his fist on the table three times, shout a vrord thrie times in anger, kick at a door three times. There had been three shots fired into the President's car. There had been three shots fired into Officer J.W. Tippit (ask a psychiatrist what a series of 3 means). —Continued Kantob Exhibit No. 4 415 ih k^ennody Late Soturdayi,! for our Sunday papers , I did a pieco on Dptoci.ive Capt. Will Fritz, his -background and his role in thn job of breakin-^ the case, alons v;ith the difficulties Fritz faced, as an occasional question fror'i an FBI man or an assistant district attorney hurst the bubble that Fritz had been carefully building around Oswald. Fritz strikes you as being of the Charlie Chan school. His expression is irniobile. It rarely changes. He shows few emotions. He is very even nan under grost stress. It v/as possible, during the course of Friday and Saturday to '.\ralk into the chief's office, talk with him or a high-ranking assistant. By Saturday it was clear to the reporters that there were no other prime suspp'cts in jail and no other prime suspects being sought, for the crime itself* When Os\.'ald was led dovm the ja!a;ii'^-. corridor, the reporters nearest him often vroull holler: V/hy did you kill the President? \Jhy die you kill the President? Reporters rarely are that emotional. I never raw it before, except in a press box at a college football game, among provincial sports writers who can't keep themselves from rooting for the home team. One time Oswald shouted back that he was being denied his basic rights to have a shower. His basic hygenic rights, as he put it. Chief Curry appeared touchy about this. He soon told rtioorters that Oswald could have a shower any time he needed one in the regular jail shower room. Another time, Oswald shouted for attorney John Abt v.'ho, frenuently handles cases for Con-mnist'S in America, John Abt of Kew York City. Get me Abt. Oswald v;anted Abt for his attorney. Another time, a reporter sho ited a question at Oswald, asking why Osvrald had v/Tltten to Connally v/hen Connally was Navy Secretary, asking Conn?.lly to get his discharge from the Marine Corps changed to an honorable discharge. Osv-ald hollered back over his shoulder, as he v;as led into the jail elevator doorv/ay: I don't know what kinfl of newspaper reports you are getting but these are not true. He was defiant. He looked alert at. all times. In his profile, he was sharp-f eatui'ed. Full-faced, he had a cunning look. He looked like Bobby Darin in the full face. That fact jfKTOj) shaped my opinion of what Oswald v;as like in his looks. Tv;o months earlier (check dates) in VJashlngton, I had witnessed the riots of the young CoT'innist sympathisers who had gone to Cuba against State Depart- ment orders — the riots inside and out of the House Jn-Amr^rican Activitit Comiiittee hearing room, and attended their own nighttime rally which was undermined by George Lincoln Rockwell's nazis. Two days of riots. Their timing vras precise as they were carried o^f by police individually. They appeared to wait until they got into the best camera angles and before 'enough reporters to scream and become martyred. This was Lee Harvey Oswald. He was living the part of a martyr. I don't recall' ever before having such a consuming desire to go out and get drunk as I did Saturday night. I hoped that somewhere a package store would be ooen or somev;here perxhaps a bar would be open v;here I could sit quietly and take care of this need. To my astonishment, I found many bars open dov/ntown. In one, four doors down from the city's m.ain intersection of Co", -erce and Akard, a block from where hundreds had stood at Main and Akarsd just the day before to cheer the President in his last moments alive, I went in. I found the juke box playing, people dancing, people at the bar laughing. It was Saturday night and the place was open for business. I v/alked past the Carousel, the Jack Ruby place, and as he had mentioned to me the day before, it was closed. Two other nearby strip joints, however, were open. I went into one and stayed a few minutes. Business was off. I will say that. But there v;ere happy drunks there, barking at the gals to take it all off. Though I vrent several could not Places and put as many beers down into me as I could hold, I he'-'in to get drunk. I found myself v/ishing only now that every b/i/\in to'^n v;"re closed. T'N, Kantob Exhibit No. 4—Continued 416 15 — kennedy "arlipr Satnrriay nitihi, it must. have h-^.en aboat 6 o'clock, I war. av/are that a 'boxful of sandv^iches had bcpn. nlaciu ia the prGss room. They wpp-^ ^ood cold meat sandwiches and thp rooortsrs made short v;ork of ther though I didn't take one. I didn't knov/ how they ^^ot there. It v;as the next afternoon that I learned that Jack Ruby 'aad brought them in. It also v.-as the next afternoon that I l^arneil that Jack Ruby had b^en in the police asse'ubly room Friday ni-ht with th.^" reuorters' who stood on tables, and the photo^^raphers who bunched into the plainclothes guards at the froni, of the room surrounding Oswald. Sunday afternoon, District Attorney Henry Wade was to say to' the press that Jack Ruby was present Friday night during that str.-^nge press conference "I understand," or "I a:n told." A new york city radio moorter, Ike Pappas, corrected Henry and said that he (Pappas) had bo^n talking with Ruby in the assonfoly room snd Ruby had given him a card and had invited ±21 hirr, to be his guest in the Carousel when it ZKpa reopened. Pauoas still carried the card in his wallet. Said that he brought Ruby over to the District 'Attorney and that the D.A. seemed to know Mr. Ruby. Henry smiled but gave no answer (after first saying that Ruby was mistaken for being a reporter). In fact, starting with Sunday afternoon, you no longer could find a policeman in tovm who said that he knew Ruby or, if h<= knew was recognized, it was because there were so many reoorters milling around —so many new faces, so many people arriving from all sorts' of distant points in America. Dallas v/as caught flat-footed. Dallas still I'as a polite place to be and the police were cooperating as much they could.: Being there, seeing the"assassina"tion scenes of ?fesi^Teht Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald unfold before my eyes through the long weekend, v:as exceedingly strange because of the isolation. Millions and millions of people were watching the events and subsequent events on television screens and hearing them on radio sets. Isaw nothing on TV, heard nothing on radio and didn't know what v/as happening beyond where I was. It was much like fighting a battle in a war. People back home read extensive reports of the extent of the battle and its meaning in relationship to the rest of the war, while the foot soldier there has no idea v/hat anything means beyond that piece of ground which he can see. I was in fact so certain Sunday morning that Oswald had been moved during the night to county jail that I slept late, showered, had a liesurely breakfast, read two Sunday newspapers while eating, and looked out the hotel v;indow for the first time, after finishing eating in the first floor restaurant, and to my surprise saw people waiting outside the city jail. I knew then that Osv;ald had not yet been transfered. It was now about 10 :Uo a.m. I left my newspapers at the hotel desk, vient across the street, up to the third floor, found that there were not many people there, took an elevator to the basement, which was the starting point of the transfer. There, I encountered difficulty. & uniformed officer asked for my identification. (I went over all of this later on for the Dallas police and the FBI at their requests) Ishov;ed the officer my White House press pass. That meant nothing to the officer. He called a detec- tive over. The detective said my identification v;as perfectly all right. Had he too turned me down, I would have fished out my Dallas police anfd Texas Dept. of Public Safety press credentials. They were outdated. cM Kantob Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 417 ^ ^ 16 — kt^nnerly I v/as allov;pd to ,1oin the rest of the reporters. I saw Boh Fenlr-y'of the Dallas Tii'ies Herald standing in the office of the basement, used to book inconing prisoners. I took up a position v;ith him and Capt. Johes of the Dallas police came along subseque/itly and told us we'd have to vacate that area. Along with us were a handful of reporters, plus one network television camera setup. I think CBS. They were taking extra precautions of course. Taking no chances. They v;anted all reporters and catieras in one area, v;here they could beep a close eye on them when Oswald appeared. He would be coming dov/n the jail elevator into the booking office, through there and out into the basement driveway area. I urged Bob to move very slowly. V/e did. In fact we vr'"n'e the last to l-^ave. I was in hopas that v;hile we were delnjin:^, Oswald V70uld be noved do"n the elevator. V'e didn't miss it by ^luch. VJe got into the drivew.-^y area ?r:d were there not more than four minutes I guess when sorr.eon*^ r;houted h^^re he coi'ies. Fenley and I stayed togoth during tills whole period of time, (diagram) It nevei- v;as official and may never become official but the police apparently, according to what they themselves later v;ere saying unofficially, were planning not to take Oswald in the armored vehicl"^ that vias v/aiting at the end of the Co-inerce Street ramp. Instead they would put him into one of the tvro cars, the g^'-een one or white one which v-ere driven into position at the last moment, and rush him out the Main Street ramp, using the armored car as a decoy. They v/ere apprehen- sive about an attempt on Oswald's life'. They expected this could occur outside the police station or en route througl: the downtov/n streets or at the arrival point at the county jail. Capt. Fritz had ii;tlmated the day before that he was against the transfer. Since this was a Dallas city police matter, it would make it difficult to transport witnesses back and forth and Oswald back and forth for continuous questioning and tests and so forth. I felt certain that more shots v;ould be fired after Ruby fired his weapon. Not necessarily as part of a plot or anything like that. There was mass confusion for at least a minute — one of those minutes in which an eternity of thought and movement occurs. The police vrere agitated. Capt. Jones shouted to a uniformed guard at the riain St. end of the ramn— no one leaves this place. The guard svfiveled into a gun-firing position, aiming down into us. I saw om^ detective after wrestledto the concrete floor and dragg'^d into the booking office (where Osv;ald was carried) by a small platoon of police— this detec- tive's eye red and wet, due to the utter frus':ration of the thing. Fenley and I sxii did what the other reporters did, depending on i/here they where standing v^hen the shooting occurred, tried to run, foolishly I guess, but that's v/here the story v;as, tried to run to where the man who had done the shooting was brought down to the concrete. vJe trie! I to move from there into the booking office. A. plain-clothesed officer, I studj/ing us as If we may have planned to do some shooting ourselves, ordered us not to move and ordered us back against the driveway area I railingi vJe were bunched and crowded. VJe were shouting and the officers were shouting and they would not let us move. The police v/ere caught in their own trap now. The two cars and the armored car v/ere blocking the attempts of an ambulance to get in to remove Oswald to Parkland Hospital. When the ambulance was brought in, it was brought to the point where Fenley and I stood. Oswald was carried out of the booking office on a stretcher and was placed inside the ambulance, his head exactly! at the point where I was standing, looking in at him. He looked gravely injured. His mouth v/as open, rigidly. His face was a pasty gray. Kantob Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 418 17 — kennedy public elevator area of the basement, told to 2° to the third floor . where Chief Curry would have statcnents to make. We v;ere not asked for identification upon getting to thr- third floor, but the executive wing of the third floor for the first time was blocked off by three uniformed officers, standing shoulder to shoulder. Fenlciy and I took up a position in front of the three and there we waited. As it turned out Chief Curry had nothing to say to the press and made no move from his office for two hours. But we stood in one place the whole time, (check notes for exact amount of time). Meanv;hile two detectives who had teen less than • a foot away from Oswald when he was shot talked to us about what they saw and did. (according to the masterpiece photosby Jack Beers and Bob Jackson, one of the detectives, standing i-miediately on Oswald's right, didn't see Ruby making the fatal lunge. The other was Jack Combest, who reacted with a shout Instead of physical action, as Ruby -.brushed past his arm in making the lunge.) Bob Jackson was scgnding with us during the wait for Curry's announcment. He didn't knov; he had the picture that probably is a Pulitzer Prize v/inner and vrill certainly become 'an all-time classic in American photo journalism. He, like Beers, ;fired his earner at that moment because he thought Ruby v;as a radio reporter, thrusting a sii slender hand microphone at Osvrald. Jackson shot his picture before the "radio man" blocked his line of vision. When Curry was ready, he came from his office without a word. By the look on his face, it was Instantly easy to tell that the entire complexion of this story was no\-r changed. V/e followed him down into the police assembly room. I rode in the same elevator with him. He said nothing. He took up a position in the front of the room. There were delays v/hile cameramen got into position and vfhile the television people got set up exactly the way they v/anted to, and then it •,\ras very disappointing. The chief spoke for a matter of seconds. Less than a minute. His announcement v/as that Loe Harvey Oswald had expired at 1;07 p.m. He' said he had no further statements at this time. He started to unhook the "vrire necklace" which held a small microphone on his tie '' at the breastplate. He was deluged with reques.t-s to repeat vjhat he had just said for the television cameras. He v/as deluged vrith questions from reporters, shouting again. He did say he felt that Osv/ald v/as the guilty man. He was obviously physically unable to say anything more. He v/as the very picture of a despindent man. Here was a picture of profound sadness — the face of Jesse Curry. The boner of the Dallas police department would rank no\-r with the building of the Maginot Line by the French to knep the Germans from marching into their country during V/orld VJar II, \v'hen the Gemrans merely went around the thing. Remember the picture of Frenchmen crying in the streets of Paris then. Only the tears were missing from the tragedy on Curry's face. We learned that great cheers went up from the hundreds of people standing outside the Dallas county jail at the other end of dovmtovn, when it was announced to them that Oswald would not be coming for he had been shot in the police station. I have spoken to other people since who have v/itnessed the shooting on television. They said their first reactions were ones of great happiness. I think it took many people many minutes to realise the gravity of the murder of Osv;ald. In the police case of John Wilkes Booth, there was HHXiiaHiit little doubt about Booth's reasons for murder- ing a President. There was extreme doubt about v/hether Booth was subse- quently killed or lived on for many years after. It was an opposite polie case nov;. There was no doubt that the man charged with the murder of President Kennedy v/as now dead but the mystery v/ould be why he shot and killed !a President. Through the afternoon as the attorneys and prospec- tive attorneys carae-y- there was Droby, and Droby's wife at horn withr^^^e anonymous threat on her life, there was Toms Howard. There were .-lartp. Kantor Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 419 — l8 — kennedy (Jin Martin) and Fred Eruner. There v/as George Sr-n^tor vho came; in, talkatively, holding an expansive press conference for 10 ninuoes before the police realized he was there and they v/hlsked him av/ay for ques- tioning. There was Mrs. F,va Grant, grimly, sadly, shakenly, still recoverinj; fro-n ma.ior surgery. She was overcome, unable to talk v;ith the mad pack of reporters v7ho by now were lil^ pJ-li^ - G G Kantor Exhibit No. -Continued 422 rilW-fmii.i»iiai'tir.i-i n" ^ ^ .1 . u .... . . I I. -A^ y Kantor Exhibit No. 5 —Continued '-a -^ ^^., <^f -ili? ^^; -3 'I^^-tJ , -uo;-<2-e<- '# \ >•--« I'' ^ -h^-. «^ Kantor Exhibit No. 5 —Continued a -a ^' -a //.^^ ^>-^^/ ^1^^-^ - ^ a 2urv- ^x:^f ^i^.t-'- a a GL,U^H>^J,^ 9'*-^^~'^ '^^ -a ^^ j-iv>i ^'i-v-cL-CA' Z:^' Ary-HcC^ 1 V— a . a a -a a .9 .a 4^- T-^. <-ii 6'* Kantor Exhibit No. 5 — Continued 425 \ c=^' ^ c^-;/-^ t^!: ..;£X^>-^. '/^-t ei^'^^'' Kantob Exhibit No. 5 —Continued N i^ y^i.. ;6 ^< '^1 JiCA-ihficAO <^c QjJl l///^otional man charged with ir.orning killing the President? I couldn't believe my eyes. The precautions taken by the Dallas Police were thorough. They even :^earched the Tristine elevator shaft leading from OSWALD'S upstairs cell to the basement to make sure no assassin had found a hiding • • place. "RUBY knew and was known by many Dallas police. He was allowed in, somehow. He was JACK RUBY the kibitzer in the jail basement, just as he had been JACK RUBY the kibitzer at the hospital where President KENNEDY died. He was a familiar face at all kinds of strange events in this city. But yesterday he stopped being the kibitzer." KANTOR related that he did not actually see RUBY, but he saw RUBY's arm extending forth with a gun toward OSWALD, and the reason he did not see RUBY v;as in view of the fact that his attention was focused on OSWALD'S face at the time of the shooting. l^Jhen he heard gunfire, he turned his eyes and there were the police grabbing RUBY. In the excitement K^^NTOR stated he does not remember just who was down in the basement of the building, as he was concentrating on his own story. KAi\^rOIv st:-oOd that the reason he v/as at the police ' station on November 24, 1963, was the fact that the night before, so.-ueone vi/ith the Press Corps, asked Chief of Police JESSE CURRY, Dallas Police Bepax'tment, what time the transfer would be :.:ade of' LEE HAIIVEY OSV//iLD to the Dallas County Jail. Chief CURRY replied that if the press v/as back the next morning, November 24, 1033, by 10:00 AT.I, it would be early enough. KANTOR stated that he slept late and walked over 'to the Dallas police station, arriving there about 10:40 AIJ, November 24, 1933, thinking the transfer ' ' had already been made. Upon arrival he went immediately to the basement of the building prior to the time OSWALD was brought down to the basement, and was there, as had been sot forth, at the time JACK RUBY shot LEE HARVEY OSWALD. Cfi$. yjs- Kantok Exhibit No. 7 — Continued 432 : , 3.3c-i (R»v. i-2i-60) "cDiRAL BUREAU CF !K'V£ST!GAT' - — ::-:. SET:^ ICAK'GR, £cri::-os-Eov/ard Staff Writer, "^7ashi:^2;v;cn ally Nev/s" Building, 1013 13tl Street, IT. T'/. Uasr-ihgton, D. C, , dvised he definitely zz\'i z.:zd talked xj±ta JACK RUBY on Hover.ber L2 S53, at the Parkland I-^ospital, Dallas, Texas. Ee stated Le reviously furnisbeci this inforr-ation to tl-e FBI in Dallas ar.d a ouple of days ia-cer upon beinc; interviev/ed by Captain JC'..T22 of the alias Police Bapartr.e:it e:;ecutod a detailed signed statcu.-rit hov/ing this information. — " f stated ie fully realizes the in:portanct recalled, and hir.:3lf followed XILDUFF, SEITH and CRCEDEY. , ^ /" ,0 ^ 1/2/S-l ,. VJash--- -'^;cn, D. C. FUn ii •'^FO ^-4-520 SAs RICHARD 7;C0D KAISER and ALB-X? TTTT.^,t:;T>. :..A^: /-r.^y Dcto dlciarcd 2/S/g-l a dociiment ccr.tc .-.u neither rocomcendctlons nor concluslcno of tho FBI. It Is tho property o£ tho FBI and la loaned to r ccor.cy; i: cr.^..^ contonjo ere not to bo dlitrlbutod outside your aQoncy. y kantcr, Seth D:±ibit Kantor Exhibit No. 8 433 V/FO 44-520 A3:::.Inn A5 he v/ent in 'chjs entrance, thres oi- four stops in, ha fel'c a "wUj at the bcttciii oi his coat. lie turned arcund. It v/as JACIC R'J3Y. v/i^ch ?.U"3Y. Ru3Y then said sc--.v3thins to the effect, "Isn't this a terrible thinsr? Do you think Z oucht to close r_y places for three days?" KAivTOH replied to the ef f ec~ "Yes, I think you should." , X.'.lvTCPv specifically recalled that RU3Y said ''three days." I^AiTfC'-'; s-catau that was all there vas to 'f^-e conversation. He stated that cuite frankly he gave P-UBY the hrush-off. lie did this because he was nost interested in what XILLj?? vac -zo announce and did not v/a: to take the time to talk to RU3Y. I-Ie could not ^recall what RUBY was wearing other than he believes he wac 1 tless. KILDUF? followed by 'z'^e roporworc proceeded ";o a sial-:e- shift press rccn in the hospi'jal and announced that President I-IENI'Ci;ii v/as dead. This announce:::en'i; was rr-ade at 1:30 p.r.i., iCove:.:ber 22, 1S63. ICAInITCR stated he had talked v/itl RUBY o'^st prior there"co so he figures he talked to hi.Ji about 1*— 3 'o ii After i^aiiin^* 'che ^anaouncenent XILDU^'I? stated ha would have another announceraent in , aoouc ten r^inu'ces. -._-ji^O— .>° _ei.'c 'che rocivi. After hearing the announce-icnt 1137_'CR got on the first , available phone in the ?arkla.'.,d Zospital and sL:.lled the Scripps- Roward Office in V/ashington, D. C. Re uas on the phone about 15 lainutes. Ee "chen v/en"; back to the rAalce-shift press roo:::. RI1;DU?F was not there. BILL STIaSGRj an adr.inistrative aid to Te;:as Governor JCRN E. CGi'Il'I-^JlLY v/as in the „ake-shift press roo:^. , Another aid, JULIAN O. RB/Jj, v/as with hi:n. STIisSOl"! for the benefit of the reporters present recor-Lcructed on a blackboard v/here President IvElTRT^DY Governor CGYj-'IALLY and their wives v/ere seated in the , motorcade. Vfnile STZ>I23JI and RB.^Z> v;ere talking, JIC-GS FAUVER, head of transportation at the Y.'hi"ce House, interrupted and tcld ail present that a press pool car v/as needed to go to Love Field. This v/as about 2:00 p.m. About 2:00 p.n., EAIvrCR stated, he left the :?.ake-shift press roor: along v/ith other reporters. Uhen h3 got outside the hospital he decilded not to go to Love Field, wninliing perhaps r:ore .news v/ould be available in the jnaks-shift press roo:^. I^imediately c K^, ci Kantor Exhibit No. — Continued 8 434 . ?0 44-520 5Ii: jroa itside the hospital he saw Sonczor YAP.BCRCUGH , Te:-:as Ccnjjressr.ian Ati TEAC-L'E andMSNRY GONZALEZ and Dallas L'ayor EARL CABELL. They sre Y/aiting for transportation to go to Love Field. KAaTOR stated 3 tried to get some iniornatio:^ fror. thoni aad then, re-entered tlcKi jspit al As KANTOR entered the hospital, P.U3Y v/as standing inside le entrance. It was either here that he saw and talked with RUBY ; reported herein or at the \,i.:' he was following XILBUFF as above. IKTOR stated he is not certain whether it was about 1:2S p.u. or )Out 2:00 p.n. rie is "csitive, howex'er, that he saw and talked .th RUBY at the Parkland Hospital, Nove:.:ber 22, iSS3. It was about :28 p.m. or about 2:00 p.iu. He described the iir.r.iediataly foregoing entrance as on le south side of the hospital. It laight have been the nain itrance but it v/as rather sn:all. KANTOR stated he was in Dallas frc-i September, 1930, to ly, 1962, at which time he worked for the "Dallas Tir-es I.erald" jwspaper. Shor'cly after starting work with this paper he r.et iCK RUBY. RUBY v;as a nightclub operator and quite naturally mted publicity for his clubs. 1-Ja frequently approached KANTOR .th stories publicizing his interests. KA}>'TOR specifically icalled he wrote one story furnished by RIJBY. It was about a tripper who used snakes in her act. IvAI:frCR stated there is no lestion tha'i: he knows JACK RUBY v/hen he sees him. Z;iNTOR reitera-^cd it was November 22 and at the Parkland ^spital that he saw and spoke with RUBY. It was not prior or ibsecuent thereto. K/JCTOR stated he was at the hospital November 5, and did not return to the hospital until about ten days there- 'ter. ' RU'BY was in custody v/hen he returned to the hospital. It j.d to be November 22 that RUBY was there. KJdT^GR stated '. \.as unable to furnish the identify . of :yone who might have soon hira talking v/ith RUBY. About 1:23 p.m., ie:.-.j vas a big rush fo-illc -ing KILDUFF, as previously stated, and i ii certain iJERRILIAI^ SLilTH and AL CRGULEY 'were so engrossv^d talking C /x 3 a -1- /^^ Kantob Exhibit No. 8—Continued 436 V.TO 44-520 ABLI : j nun KILBUFFj also they v/ere in front of liiiu, tliat they could not YVi1:b. have seen bin with RUBY. Ee is lilcev/iso certcin the other roportcr^, identifies net recalled, paid r.o particular attention to hi:^, having their minds on what KILDUFi? v/as to anr.cance. About 2:00 p.n. when he re-entered the hospital, after , talking with the officials previo-usly referred to, IvAl\'_'w?^ staged, he obsei-ved hospital personnel, identities not Zcnown, in the entrance. lie believes they were personnel hecause. of their white garb. If it was there he sav/ RUBY raxher than about 1:23 p.u. the personnel , Y/ould not remember it because they were not paying ^^V particular attention to him. K/usTTCR stated af-jer re-enterinj the hospital about 2: GO p.m., he went to the nalce-shift press roon; in the hospital. KILDUZT? was not there. K/J}^1'CR S'cated he subseruently left the press roori and got on a press bus en route to Love Field. He checked his notes and advised they shov/ a notation by him at 2:30 p.n. written while , on the bus, tha^c be observed nobs of curiosity seekers driving around the Parkland Hospital. ICANTCa stated he next and last sav/ RUBY in the Dallas Jail. This was Sunday, Novenber 24, 1953, at which time RUBY was being led by the Dallas Police from an ui^per floor of the jail. KrJ^CP. stated he looked directly at RUBY and RUBY appeared to be looking directly at him. RUBYj however, showed no signs f recognition. . RUBY'S complexion was pasty, his face was grim and his lips v/ere drawn tightly together. KANTOR gave a note to ART HAT-ILIET, a Dallas police officer, who v/orks in the office of Dallas Police Captain GLEN XIKG, asking that HATHIST give the note to RUBY. The note read, "JACK, Can I please talk to you, SBTa." IiAT.i:.ffiT told him he would try to see that RUBY got the note, but cautioned ICAI'ITCR that he could not make any promises that RL^Y would get the note. Subsequently, KAINTCR stated, he gave the same type note to TC:.I EGv/ARD, RUEY's lawyer, and asked that HOWARD give xt to RUBY. EOUARD said he would. • KANTOR stated he received no reply to these notes. c^^ jj : /l^ Kantor Exhibit No. 8 — Continued 436 7F0 44-520 !iBLI:jmm « SANTOR was pointedly told by interviewing agents that RUSY aas emphatically denied he was at Parkland Hospital at any tine' (November 22, 1963, or subsequent. KA1\"TCR was specifically asked vhether he might be mistal^en about seeing RUBY there November 22. UlKlOR reiterated he is absolutely certain he saw and spoke with •iUBY at the Parkland Hospital on November 22. ICANTOR was told that he might be called upon to testify in this case. He v/as asked v/hat he would .say if under oath and on the witness stand in a court of law to the question, "Did ycu see and talk with RUBY at the Parkland Hospital on November 22, l£o3?" CAI'iTCR stated he would answer, "Yes," because he is absolutely :ert ain he did. KANTCR speculate'd that perhaps RUBY has said he v/as not It the Parkland Eos_:-ital on November 22, as part of his reported )lea of temporary insanity. KAl-JTOR stated be is not acquainted v/ith ill facets of such a pic^ but felt it might help RUBY's cause for RUBY to ieny being at the hospital v/hen he knov/s he v/as, and that ZANTOR /ould have to testify that he sav/ him there. Then too, KANTCR stated, RUBY might have been in emotional shock and cannot recall jeing -s,t the hospital. EA1\^0R stated J;a did not knew LE3 EAEV2Y OSWALD, and he ices not know v/hether RUBY knew OSWALD. He stated he does not know ,'_-ther there v/as any connection betv/een RUBY and OSV/ALD. IL^^CTOR stated he wants to cooperate with the FBI anyv/ay jossible and the FBI should consider him at all times available , or interview. y^- ^§, c "Klc /'.7 Kantor Exhibit No. — Continued 8 437 otanlcy Kauimn ;;;.diibit 1 O, F. >TD.iP' (B.T. J.J.59) —-.^ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA I iun -^ 11/26/63, V* li- STANLEY P. KAUFMAN, 1520 Mercantile Securitloa r.ulldlng, advised that he has known JACK RUBY slpce 195^ Jind hao repreoented him in several civil mattery pertaining to ti-j;? night night club business In Dallas. KAUFMAN stated he knows nothing about RUBY'S activities while in Chicago prior to coming to Dallas, but knows that for the past nine or ten years he has attended the same synagogue as he attends and he considers RUDY one of 'the raoat active Jewish bachelors In the synagogue. KAUFMAN stated he knows of no trips' that RUBY has made, with the exception of a vaca'/^.on trip to Cuba aome years back prior to the time CASTRO took over, at which time he went down to visit some acquaintance, name not. now recalled, who worked in a casino there, as well as a trip to Ch)lcaf^o some years back in connection with the death of his father. He stated he does not know LEE HARVEY OSWALD and npver heard OSV/ALD mentioned by RUBY. KAUFMAN stated he heard over TV that RUBY had asked for three attorneys and that his name was mentioned, but he has received no contact from RUBY since hia arrest and, since he does not handle criminal cases, he would not repre- sent RUBY in connection with this pending charge against RUBY. ,> He stated RUBY has never had a bank account to his knowledge v^ and has always paid for his services in cash. He stated he knows of only two persons who might be able to furnish perti- nent Information concerning RUBY, one RALPH PAUL, of Dallas, who has. or had some business connection with RUBY, an^ ALICE NICHOLS, a girl friend or former girl friend of RUBY, who reaidea at 8707 Redondo. KAUFMAN stated that on the morning of November 23, 19^3) HUBY called him, appeared to be very upset, and 1 as'r^ed him if he had read the article placed In phq Dal.'f^aa News by a BERNARD WEISSMAN. KAUFMAN stated that he' told RUl^Y he had seen it and RUBY asked, "Did you notice that this ad was bordered in black, which makes it look like a death tip?" KAUFMN stated that RUBY wanted to. know who WEISSr4AN was and how he could get in touch with" him and if Mr. FREEDMAN, of the Anti-Defamation League, could furnish him any Information as to the whereabouta of BERNARD WEISSI-IAN. He. stated RUBY also told him that he had tried to locate this WEISSMAN through the Poat Office Department, but was 11/26/63 Dallas, Texaa DL '44-1639 of FiU ff by Sp.cial Ag.ntfl Ar.PRKD D. MF.F.T.KY At J. CAT-VTM RTCT^..., dicfot.d 11/26/63 eah ThU 4oackagc to work on that day and ho denied that he load ever had any conversation about curtain rods with the boy named VJesley who drove him to his employ:ucnt. Fritz asked him if he had ridden a taxi that day and Oswald then changed his story and said that when he got on the bus he found it ims going too e1o\." and after two blocks he got off the bus and took a cab to his home; that he passed the time with the cab driver and that the cab driver had told hira that the President was shot. Ke paid a cab fare of 85^. In response to q.uestions, he stated that this was the first time he had ever ridden in a cab since a bus wus always available. He said he went home, changed his trousers and shirt, put his chirt in a drawer. This was a red shirt, and he put it v;ith his dirty clothes. He described the shirt as having a button down collar and of reddish color. The trousers were grey colored Ke said he ate his lunch with the colored boys who worked with him. Ec described one of them as "Junior", a colored bey, and the other was a little short negro boy. Ho said his lunch consisted of cheese, bread, fruit, and apples, and was the only package he had with him when he went to work. He that Mrs. Paine practiceg^ Russian by having his wife live with c.-^ited her. ^cnicd that he had ever owned/ 'iflo. He said ho does not knov/ Mr. lie Paine vei-y well but that Paine usually co;:ios by the place where his wife was living with Mx'S. Paine on Friday or \Jednc:;day. He stated that Mr. Paine has a car and Mrs. Paine has had tv;o cars. Ke said in response to questions by Captain Fritz that his effects were in Mrs. Paine' s garage and that they con- sisted of two sea bags with come other packages contr-initig his personal be- longings ar.d that he had brought those back from Kew Orleans with hira sometime in September. He stated that his brother, Robert, lived at 7313 Davenport Street, F. L \/orth, and that the Paines wore his closest friends in town. • He denied that he had ever joined the Conmunist party; that ho never had a Comrauuist card. He did belong to the American Civil Liberties Union and had KELLEry Exhibit A 440 CO-2-3^030 Page 2. jaid $5 a year dues. He stated that he had bought the pistol that wao 'ound in his possession when he was arrested about seven months ago. le refused to answer any questions concerning the pistol or a gun until le talked to a lawyer. Oswald stated that at various other tines he had been thoroughly Interrogated by the FBI; that they had used all the usual interrogation jractices and all their standard operating procedure; that he was very 'aniliar with interrogation, and he had no intention of answering any j^UGStions concerning any shooting; that he knew he didnot have to answer ;he.T. and that he would not answer any questions until he had been given ;ounscl. He stated that the FBI had used their hard and soft approach to lim, they used the buddy system; that he was familiar with all types of questioning and had no intention of making any statements. Ee said that n the past three weeks when the FBI had talked to his wife, they were busive and impolite; that they had frightened his wife and he considered heir activities obnoxious. Ke stated that he wanted to contact a Mr. Abt, I.New York lawyer whom he did not know but who had. defended the Smith Act victims" in 19^9 or 1950 in connection with a conspiracy^ against the tovernizent; that Abt would understand what this case was all about and that le v/ould give him an excellent defense. lie stated in returning a question bout his former addresses that he lived at 4907 I'ligazine Street in New )rleans at one time and worked for the William Riley Company; that hs was irrect^J in Hew Orleans for disturbing the peace and paid a $10 fine while le was demonstrating for the Fair Play for Cuba Cosroittee; that he had a 'ight v:ith some anti-Castro refugees and that they were released while he 'as fined. Upon questioning by Captain Fritz, he said, "I have no views on the resident." "Ify wife and I like the President's family. They are in- eresting people. I liave my own views on the President's national policy. have a right to express my viev;s but because of the charges I do not hink I should comment further." Os\?ald said "I am not a malcontent; lOthing irritated me about the President." Ee said that dvuring I962 he was aterviewcd by the FBI and that he at that time refused to take a polygraph nd that he did not intend to take a polygraph test for the DaJJLas police, t this time Captain Fritz showed a Selective Service Card that was taken out f his wallet which bore the name of Alex Hidell. Oswald refused to discuss his after being asked for an explanation of it, both by Fritz and by James ookhoutj the FBI Agent. I asked him if he viewed the parade and he said he ad not. I then asked him if he had shot the President and he said he had not. asked him if he had shot Governor Connally and he said he had not. Ee did ot intend to answer further questions without counsel and that if he could not et Abt, then he would hope that the Civil Liberties Union would give him an ttorney to represent him. At that point Captain Fritz terminated the inter- iew at about 11:30 A.M., II-23-63. Thomas J. fu^>a.cy - OQQ Inspector Kelley Exhibit A — Continued 441 . on NOVEI-EER 23, 1953 At about 12:35 P.M., iroveniber 23, 15^3, L=e Oo'.;ald v;as interviewed in the ofi"ice of Captain Will Fritz of the IIo:rJ.cide Divisioa, Dallas Police De- partn:ent. Arno.13 thoce preccnt at this interview wore Inspector Kellcy, Captain Fritz, Detectives Scnl:el and Ticrnon of the Uonicido Division and £A Jair.es Eoolcout, FBI. Captain Fritz conducted the Interview which was concerned KOGtly with Oswald's places of residence in Dallas and was an attempt to ascertain where the bulk of Oswald's bclon^in^s v;ere located In Dallas. As a result of the interview, Os\/ald furnished information to Captain Fritz that most of his personal effects, including a sea bag, were in the gai-ago at the address of Mrs. Paine, 25I5 V/est 5th Street, Irviag, Texas The intervievj v/as concluded about 1:10 />. M. and immediately thereafter nieKbers of the Iloaicide Division secured a search v;arrant and recovered Osv:ald's effects froa the homo of Mrs. Paine. Found ar.ons the effects were tAv-o different poses in snapshot type photographs taicen of Osv/ald holding a rifle in one hand and holdin^j up a copy of a paper called the Militant and "The V'orker" in the other hand. Oswald v:a3 wearing a revolver in a holster on his riglit side. This photograph was enlarged by the Dallas Police Labox-atories and was used as a basis of additional ouestioning of Oswald at approximately 6:00 P.M. that sau.3 evening. On IJovember 23, 1953, az 6:00 P.M., in the office of Captain Fritz, nor.iicide Division, Dallas Police Department, I was present at an Interview with Oswald. Also present were Captain Fritz, FEI Agent Jin Eoolvhoutt, and four ofi'cers fro:^ the Ho.zicide Division. This Interview was conducted with 0s».'ald for the pxirpose of displaying to liin the blow-ups of photographs shov;- ing hi::i holding a rifle and a pistol which wore seized as a result of the search \/arrant for the garage of Mi'S. Paine at 2515 V'est 5'th Street, Irving, To>:as. V.'hen the photographs were presented to Oswald, he sneered at them saying that they were fake photographs; that he had been photographed a ;.-j:i;ber of times the day before by the police and apparently after they photographed hiiu they superimposed on the photogx'aphs a rifle and put a gun in his pocket. He ,jt into a long argurient with Captain Fritz about his knowledge of photography and asked Fritz a nuinber of tiaes whether the Eir.aller photograph was made froni the larger or whether the larger photograph was made fron the snaller. lie said ao the proper tine he would show that the photographs were falces. Fritz told hi:a that the smaller photogi-aph was taken froa his effects at the go rage. Csv.-ald became arrogant and refused to answer any further questions concerning the photographs and would not identify the photogi-aphs as being a photograph of hinself . Captain Fritz displayed great patience and tenacity in attempting to secure frca Oswald the location of what apparently is the backyard of an address at which Oswald fonnerly lived, but it v/as apparent that Osv/ald, tliougii slightly shaken by the evidence, had no intention of furnishing any information. The interview was terminated at about 7:15 P.M. Thcjnas J. Inspector Kelxey Exhibit A —Continued 442 y 7 )") CO-2-3ii,030 U. S. S3cra« ?ervic3 Chief Novenbsr 2?, 1963 In-pector Kolley '"\^ Prsliriino-ry Special Dallas Report 'j 3 Covers ohirJ intorvicw vith Csuald and circuinstancas irxcdiatsly follov;ins his r.urder lis int3rvieu started at approxir^toly 9:30 All on Sunday, NovcnbGr 2U, 1963. intervieij was conducted in th3 office of Captain V;ill Fritz of tha Hor.icids irsau, Dallas Police. Present at the interview in addition to Osv.'ald tjera •ptain Fritz, Foetal Inspector Iloln^s, SAIC Sorrels, Inspector Kelley and four rbers of the Hordcide Sq^aad. The intox^icj had just begun when I arrived and ptain Fritz was a:;ain requesting Oswald to identify the place where the photo- raph of hin hcldir::3 the gun was taken. Captain Fritz indicated that it would ivo the Police a ^vizX. deal of tir.e if he woui- tell then t;her3 the place was cated. Cr.;ald refused to discuss the natter. C::ptain Fritz asked, "Are you Corrunist?" Cc'.:ald cntTjercd, "ITo, I am a Tarnist but I am not a Marxist ninist". Captain Fritz asked hin what the difference was and Csvjald said it :uld take too Icn^ to explain it to hir.. Oswald said that he becare interested 1 the Fair Play for Cuba Ccr.r.ittee x;hiie he t;as in New Orleans; thj.t ha wrote the Ccrrittee's Ilea'^cuai-fcors in ITew York and received some Corrattoe litera- jre and a letter signed '^-j .'.lex Plidoll. Ke ijtated that he began to distribute :iat literature in ire:.' Grler.ns and it was at that tiir.e that he get into an Ltercation i.ith a group a;:d ho was arrested. He said his opinions concerning iir Play for Cuba are well known j that he appeared on Bill Stukey's television :ogran in iroif Orleans on a number of occasions and was interviewed by the local often. JHe denies Imcwing or ever seeing Kidell in New Orleans, said he elieved in all of the tenets of the Fair Play for Cuba and the things which the ;ir Play for Cuba Ccr.-.-ittee stood for, whic'!-. was free intercourse with Cuba and reedon for tourists of the both countries to travel within each other's borders. fuLC rong ether things, Os'.jald said that Cuba should h^ave f6^ty' Qod don't tell ne there's a nark near where this thing happened". The nark was pointed out to hia and he said "What about the other narks on the nap?- I put a number of narks on it. I was looking for work and narked the places where I went for jobs or where I heard there were Jobs". Since it was obvious to Captain Friti that Oswald was not going to be coopsratiye, . he teminated the inteirriew at that tine. I approached Oswald then and, out of the hearing of the others except perhaps one of Captain Fritz's nen, said that as a Secret Service agent, we are anxious to talk with hin as soon as he had secured counseli that we were responsible for the safety of the Presidentj that the Dallas Police had charged hin with the assassi- nation of the President but that he had denied it| we were therefore very anxious to talk with hifii to nake certain that the correct story was developing as it related to the assassitaation. He said that he would be glad to discuss this proposition with his attorney and that after he talked to one, we could either discuss it with hin or discuss it with his attorney, if the attorney thought it was the wise thing to do, but that at the present tine he had nothing nore to say to me. Oswald was then handed some different clothing to put on. The clothing Included a sweater. Captain Frits nade a nunber of telephone calls to asceirtain whether the preparations he had placed into effect for transferring the prisoner to the County Jail were ready and upon being so advised. Captain Frits and nembsrs of the Detective Bureau escorted Oswald from the Homicide Office on the third floor to the basement where Oswald was shot by Jack Ruby. On the completion of the interview, SAIC Sorrels and I proceeded to the office of the Chief of Police on the third floor and were discussing the interview when we heard that Oswald had been shot. We both ran down the steps to the basement. I arrived in the ante-roon where they had dragged Oswald. SAIC Sorrels located and interviewed Ruby, Someone was beirfing over Oswald with a stethoscope and he appeared to be unconscious in very serious condition at that time. I asked Captain Fritz what had happened and he jsaid Oswald had been shot by one Jack "Rubio" whom the police knew as a tavern operator. Shortly thereafter a stretcher airived and I accon^ianied the stretcher ttson of the FBI who asked whether we had someone with the family. He was assured that we had. Ha requested to be advised where the family had been takan. Since their ultimate destination was unknown to ne at the time, I assured him that when I learned of their whereabouts I would relay it to hln. He said that they received instructions fron tha Attorney Ocneral and President Johnson that precaution should be taken to insure the family safety. |At11 pm, Sunday, Iforember ?Uth, Z «a« advised of the location of the family and immediately notified Robertson and inquired whether they now wished to take over their protection. Be said no they bad no svoh inatructicoa, they lurely wished to be assured that aoaseaa va^loolpli^ owtf JTor; t^beir safety. I asaured thsB that '^' li c :-lj:i oJ-uAiCt , 177 !\:cEi',f:D Kelley Exhibit A —Continued 445 '44-731 O— 64— vol. XX 30 . ll. 00-2-3U,030 adequate proteetion v«a baing prorided an) that thajr }I9T9 available for inter- TlevB by tha IBI. Ha atatad that tbsy did not viah tc latarrlaw the faidl/ at thia tlMj that %h»j Mraljr muit«i ta aaka aura thajr vara la aafa haala TJX ITS iy Speciol Agent , ^ . Date dictat«d , in>U document contalaa neither reoommandotlons oor oox' '<' 'on* o( the FBI. It Is the property o( the TBI and la loaned to four a«*nKy| ii ond lie cfl"'*"!* af» net t« be Huljt>»>»'»'' '.,.: y^^^ a««H«^i Kelly Exhibit No. 5133 447 . , ' ' • ,' FD^oj (R.v. J-3.SS) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1/31/64 Doto "::>^: V Captain GLEH D. KING .(N A) , Sl9 Goldwocd , Dallas, taleplione c^4--4L162.vw-xidvi£iad. he-- is'-'Administrative Assistant to Chief of PolicQ JESSE E. CURRY, Dallas Police Department, and ^ras so enployed during the period including November 22 , 1963 and continues in that capacity. Captain KING said he had, on January 24, 1964, observed >C the March 1954 issue of Saga magazine , which had been e>iiibited (^ to him by a Dallas newspaper reporter . This magazine included an f ^ • article purportedly \i7ritten by a former FBI Agent -who , as KING ^ »^ • ^ recalled, had been "fired." Ee said his attention had been ^ | "^ - -V^ specifically called to the quotation in the article attributed ;,^ to him to the effect that he had stated the Dallas Police C;.ipartment q "^^ had no record of LEE HARVEY OSVTALD prior to the assassination and \j i ' i r that there ^-ras no reason why the police should have had a previous ^o ^li" record inasmuch as there had been no indication OSWALD engaged in' c^ any criminal activities , which would have been normally brought to ^"^ _ the attenti,on of the police 2 . ...-- f^^ Captain KING stated that ho, on November 22, 1963 , ana J^-.^ subsequent. days, was contacted by innumerable representatives cf " various news media. Ee stated he is quoted substantially correctly f • inasmuch as he had given this same answer to numerous reporters who had inquired as to whether the Dallas Police had a previous record of 0SV3ALD. A copy of the March 1964 issue of Saga \'7as exhibited to .KING, along with a photograph of ^CLLIAM W. TXIRNER, purportedly *^ the writer of the article in question. KING stated he is reason- vj^ ably sure he recalls TURNER as one cf the xaany persons V7ho ^ contacted him although he might not have been able to select his photograph if it had been exhibited among other photographs. Ea said th name VJILLIAI-I W. TURNER \'ras not recalled specifically. ! Ee said, however, he recalls that an individual was in his office on an unrecalled date representing he vras a magazine writer. "~ Glen D. King Exhibit #1 or. 1/25/54 Dallas, Texas -''-35 p.j^ ^^ PL 1C0-104S1 CLEMENTS and I'l^LNNING-C. by S^oclcl Aoor.t § ALBERT SAYERS - LAC " ^^.^ ^j.^^.^j ^/^^/^^ T>.la docucoat oon;c:»» r.&Uhor rocoai&ttndotlona nor coacluctono of tho FBI* It la tho property oi tb* FBI and la Xoon« y&iU' cgoac/;U cod lU coaioata oro &ot to ^9 CLatrlbuto^ ouUi^e your ogoncy. King Exhibit No. 1 448 d ~>v F^-:o2(R,». 3.3-48) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ^. .. 7" ^- ^^ Ooval.. LOO H. - Murdor 1.7 Foxby- Ps ' <^5.r>t:nin CLEN _D. KING '/ Adaiais trativG Assistant to Chief JESSL ii.~'oui\:v/~or "che. iv-.llas Police Department, was • interviev;ed and xvas iiiitiediately advised of the official /\-- identity of Special Agent LEO L. ROBERTSON. He V7as advised vVy th^>t he did not have to make a statcinent , tho.t any statcrient ^ ^, i he did make . could be used against him in a court of lav; and ""^ ": that he had the right to consult an attorney prior to ma-king ^ ;{ ,. any statement. Ee then furnished the follox^ng information: < .,'/ .i On December 9, 1963, Ca.ptain KING advised that he was the press relations officer for the police department 1 ,n.. and that he had not given a press card to JACK RUBY. Ee stated he was also sure that no one else in the police '; department had given RUBY a press card and that he would have kncv;a: about it since he was the person assigned as press •)C V ^ \ •relations officer. , > w \ On December 10, 1963, Captain KING,,advised that he h£d~^' \ no assignment in regard to moving LEE E\RVEY OSWALD from the ,~^V City to the County Jail but stated that since' he was the press "! ,,'^ relations officer he went down to the basement at apprc:lans aluhcu^-h , he v:as avare that the press and police officers V7ere the only authorised people vzho v/ere supposed to be in the area^ Ke did not hnov of any unaUw'"orized person .there and V7as not in a position to observe any of the ceir.bers of the nev/s ciedia coming in at the ti— a he arrived there. Ke advised he. had never knov/n any police officers vho had vorked for RUBY and it v.vis against the deoartnr.ent 's regulations for any Dallas policeman to work for any night olubs or any other type of establishments where they sold a.cl.h-''.ic beverages. Ke advised that shortly before the shootir'g, "they were attempting to move u^70 police cars onto the ramp and that he had .3013 out to the end of the corridor and* turned to his right, vi^ich v;as south or on^^ Comr.erce Street and V7as attempting to get some of the police officers and nc //smen mov&^lback so that the police cars would have room to back up to the corridor V7here they V7ere going to bring OSWALD out. Ee stated he v;-:}s approximately half way between the tv70 cars but V7as up oa the west side of the ramp when he heard the shot, r'.e looked around and sav; tr^.t several officers r-ad a man dovTn, whom he later determined V7as JACK ?JJ2Y. rie immediately ordered police officers to block all entrances and not let anyone in or out. Ke stated he then \:a-z over to where RISY v;as lying and accompanied RUBY, Detective KARRIS and f.-70 or three other officers, v/nose nar.es he could not recall, to the elevator where they took •JACK Ru2Y to the, 5th floor. He stated when they arrxved on z':.3. 5th floor he ordered these men to strip RUBY dovjn and search him thoroughly. He stated he h^d not hear of any^^infor- mation concerning any relationship between OS^.-IALD and RuiY. King Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 450 ' 1 DL 44-loS9 "Dscember 2, 1963 ":u:. J, B. Curry Cr.ief of Police "Subject: Kurder of Lee Harvey Oswald "Sir: "The following information is submitted relevant to ny activities in the basement of the Police and Courts Building immediately prior to, at the time of, and immediately following" the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby, Alias Jack • Leon Rubens te in. . , "At :Lppro>:inately 10:45 a.n:; on November 24, I X'7ent to the basement of the Police and Courts Euilcing. because of the number of nev7smen who were assembled at that location. The r.ewsm.en 'v;ere there because of the impending transfer of ' v.' Oswald from the City to the County Jail. "vrnen I v;ent into the parking' area and drivevray, a large number of nev7sm-en were already there. I spoke briefly with Jack Beers, photographer for the Dallas Homing Nevjs who V7as, at that time, standing on the rail on the eastern side of the /driveway, I stayed in the basement tallcing with news- men -and preventing them from going up the south raaip toward the location x^;here the armored car xcas parked. "I talked briefly with Captain O.A. Jones, Captain C.3, Talbert; and Captain f'.mett of the Police Reser\'es. "K'.en the vehicle, driver, byLieutenant R. S, Pierce, was ! driven from the basement to 1-Iair. Street, I V7as on the west ' cide of the driveway near V7here the ramp to Commerce Street starts up, I'v7as at this locatior. v:heii the vei>icle. c « sr — Glen D. King Exhibit #3 _ • ., :. ^ j'V5 . King Exhibit No. 3 451 . '•driver, by Detective C, N« Laority, v;as backed tov?ard l>;«ir.Street cr.d I was xcatchin^ this vehicle when I heard the shot. I yelled for the ofiicerc 6n the Corfji;crco Street side to keep people froin co:iiir.g ir* or leaving and then went over to where Ruby was being held. The persons I rCi^er^ber seeing V7ith Ruby V7ere Officer U^„J^..Kai:risQn_ of the Juvenile Bureau and Detective. ,D. R. Archer of the Auto Theft Bureau. I went x-;ith these officers inside the Jail Office with Ruby and then up the elevator to the 5th Floor where I left then and returned to the basement* 'When I returned to the basement J Oswald had already been picked up by the arabulance, 'f then' returned to s::y office and talked V7ith nev;s:i:en V7ho ccntinued to cczne into the Adziirlstrative Office inquiring ctcu'j the;' i-.':Gieori';; ur.ich had occurred in 'i:hz basement* "Respectfully subraittedj jz! Glen d; ICing Cn^tcin of -police Glen D. IGng Exiiibit #3 King Exhibit No. 3 — Oontinued 452 ( can discuss that pressure and the^-ole-ofJije.JJ^lice, and the relations fc.:.-x;'^ thv r^''U-«- aad tbi- |>rvw rfyrtiv:£ thai jwriod. Ijctlcr than anyoa* C-:v::n:;triUvc assiatr-nt to Chief Curry. Crttcr ihr-n t!-.:;l. from cca- ctcndpoint, he is a former newspaperman. He was a police reporter en tlie D.-.Uas Morning News, when he joined the police liepartment in lC-13. He served in every division oi the department until he has ri;on to his present spot. Ke has studied journalism in college, at the University of Texas and ' Southern Jlethodist University. He has attended a number of police institutes; he has lectured at some. He writes in the field of police sci- ence; he is the author of two books and numerous magar.ine articles. We &re esp-ecially grateful to him for coming here this morning to tell /vj- jI us how the ixilice saw this story. ^ — "^ ^'''jf ^ CAIT.A.IN Glzn King, Police Dep artment, D.illas, TcxasjJ . *" Ci'thinl; one oi my primary problems here this morning is going to be one of selection. Because in a few brief moments, I'm going to have to try to condense days of prejiaratioii for the visit of the President to Dallas and weeks of investigation that followed his assassination there into some logical order. ' • I'm going to have to omit eiitirels rniLiiy points that I might touch upon. If I fail to address some jwiut tii:il you ;iro particularly interested .> V.J in, I apologize to you in advance, 'iiiue won't permit me to touch all of it. I also should explain to you at the outset that I am appearing here under certain limitations. Investigiitions into the assassination and the events which followed it are continuing. It has been indicated to the police department in Dallas the Warren Commission prefers that we not comment on certain areas of this investigation and on certain aspects of the evidence we have. It might seem inconsistent to you, because I might talk about one part of a question then not go further on it. There might not be any logical or explainable reason for it. It's going to have to be on my appraisal of it. So, again on this, I'll apologize. The police department involvement can be broken down into som.e rather clearly definable categories. The first one I would li!:e to touch on v/as the preparation for the visit of the President to Dallas. At that time we occupied purely a supportive role. The Air Force was primarily responsible for getting the President and his party to Dallas. The Secrot Service was primarily responsible fof his safety while he was in Dallas. We occupied, as I say, a supportive role. We performed a supportive function here. To do this we met with the Secret Service and with other oinciui r.^enciesand civic organizations in Dallas at least daily and on most days many times beginning on Noveu.hcr IS. On that day we received the first ofTicial notice that the Prcsident_ , r/ould visit Dallas. We had known v. it prior to this tims'Tjuircourse -^ We had read it in the newspapers that he was going to take a trip, and that Dallas was going to be one of the stops on the trip. But it was only on the 13lli that we received official notification that he would be in Didlas. This came through the Secret Service. From that time, as I say, until the iiml when he arrived, there •were at least daily conferences. Most days — and on those days almost the whole day for .some members of the department — were devoted to the conferences prep.- .ring for the President's visit. The plans for security that were eventually worked out called for our assignment of manpower at three specific locations. The first one was at Dallas' Love Field, where the President's plane was to land. We assigned a dei)uty chief and 5-i men to that location to contain the crowd and to perform those functions that had to he performed so that the President's party could leave Love Field on time to make his sjx-ech. The second place was the route the motorcade would take. Prior to ' .' the visit, our deputy chief of trafiic traveled the route several times in'"^ the company of Secret Service men and decided with them ' the loci-' lions where officers would be assigned. , Uril^ Glen D. KincT R>rh-!hit. Jldi King Exhibit No. 4 453 KiNE. (ASNE) . . .23173. .ch We put men at all signalized intersections. We put two to four men at all locations where turns would be made — because it was believed that there would be a bigger concentration of the viewing public there — at all overpasses, railroad trestles, bridges. Every place the President's motorcade would travel under, we assigned additional men to. On our own, we assigned detectives in the middle of the blocks where we thought the greatest number of viewers would be. Jn all, we had 178 men assigned to the parade route. The third location was the Trade Mart, the building at which the President was to make his speech. We assigned 63 men to work ouUide there, working the parking area, making sure everything was in order there. Inside we had the deputy chief and 150 men. Our association with the press during this part of it was rather limited. As I said, the Secret Service was the primary agency of jurisdiction. We were aiding them as best we could. Most of the contact with the press during this part of it _ was either with the Secret Service or the public relations organization^ t^/*«Vu|.. ^ Mr. McKnight mentioned to you. With the assassination and the few seconds that it took, our posi- tion changed from one of support to the agency with primary investi- gative jurisdiction. When the President was shot, it became our re- sponsibility to investigate in an attempt to determine who had com- iiM< minpnt cameras, cable*. We have been xsriticized. and Derhan* with iiiittifi<» •iu«».i«.». the newsmen to remain in the hallways, for allowing newsmen to view the investigation and to keep in constant touch with the progress of the investigation. We felt that we had to do so, and for a variety of reasons. ezL Glen D. King Exhibit #U King Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 454 ...-;..,..;. .^:ll. 111. ]•'. ttii, of 'I.. lir»l ..111- •! ':• ix.ii. .if ;llf ilr|.;irlluflil. N..« I l.:ill/>- all. I \»-\\r\ u\ llii- iii-I;im<-.- ri.iii.l liavi- 1...I1 tliJll ptilicy i> i-li;illi:i'!il.|r. il..«.x.r. il U:i<\ 1...I1 li.. |...li.> ..f ..111- .1. i.iiriiiMiit U,r ...i^ .•li.iii;;.-.!. iiii.l yi-iirv :iii i...-il.l»- I., llf pr.'--^ Ml III.- . s. i.i-. ..f lli'ir iliili.'N. \\\' Ml dial ilu- iiiannllii.l.- ..f tlii> crimi. Ilu' v, ii..ii-iii-- of llir dtrni^c. inailc tlii> imoic iiv»>— ai\ lall.r tliaii |. »vi-iui! ill.- in r. s'ity for it. — _ A ..((•(_>lli i-i':i-.vii Am- rt-aliynl tlial llii- |irol>al.l> wa- one of lie nm-l l I / irnporlaiil cvniK in n-rtiit lii..tiin or in anv lii-l.ii\. acliiaily. We iral- izid tin- intiroNl ii..l only llic Allien. an pi-oplc »..mI.1 liavc in llii- l>ut Ihf world as will. \Vf ivali/i-d lliat if «<• arrc^lcd a >.iis|Kct. thai if wo br.)iiplit him into tin' police >lalion an. tlwn coiidii.trd all of our ilivrs- I tigalions iH-hinil cIommI door>. that if «» save no rt-porU on thr i)roj!iTS» of our invest iya ion I and did not p.iinil the iicwmikii to see llu- -iis- pcct — we cxi-liidcd them from it if "i' would Iravc onr>rlv(-> open not — only to critiri^ms that we wen- faluiiatinp a >ii.-pce faith in our fairness aiwl. lliroti};li losiiifi faith in our fairnes-.. lo lo-c faith to a eertain extenl in tin- proee-><--. of law. We fill wa- mani'alory that a> many people knew alioiil il as it po.ssihlc. We knew, too. that we did exclude he newMiien. we woul.l if I be Icaviii); ourselves open to a eharfie that we were usin^ improper ac- ^ tion. dure>». jihysical abuse, all of these thin;;-. 3 .'\s a. matter of fact, a short lime after the newsmen came into the police station, one of Ihem did hol.l up a pieliire of Oswald an.l sai.l, "This is wh.it the person who is .ii-piited of a»-a»inalinj: the I'le-ident looks like. .M least this is what he did look like. 1 don't lmen there interfered with the investigation, ^'ou saw the scenes in our hallway. To bring a prisoner from our jail to our liomi. ide office, the liuicaii that was handling this, you have to bring him for a short distance down a hallway. This is the way the building is arranged. It is not the most desiral)le arrangement in he world, but il is the I one we have to work with. With n(w>iiuii in ilie halbva.v. with the noise that was constant outside the honiici.le Imreau. certainl,v thiv had some efTcct on the investigative |)ro(eilure,-. Il was to a eertain exleiit disaflvantageous. This is not an attempt on my part lo evade any res])onsibilit.v here The newsmen admittedly were tlieCc because we pirmilled in this field. them to be there. Had we so chosen, we could have excluded hem. So I this is not on my jjart a condemnation of the newsmen for exercising a privilege that we had given. Still their presence there was a himlering factor to us. The next and last point that I think I will have time to talk alioul was the transfer and the resulting deatii of Oswald. There lins been quite a lot of comment about our announcement of the time of transfer. This perhaps is an academic point, but 1 think it is one that should be made. It has been said that we told the newsm. n that the transfer would be made at ten o'clock on Sunday morning. This is not exactly the case. On Saturday night, some of the newsmen c;'.mc into our adiiiinistralive offices and pointed out to us that they had lieeii there for some hours. They told us they were hungry, that thi.-y were tired and that they would like to get something to eat but Ihal they had come to Dallas ' ' (,^ from considerable distances anil couldn't alford to lie away from the sta- •<'.'/• tion when something of importance happened. They asked if we were ") ' ,* " going to transfer Oswald that night. / ^ \ King Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 455 H — TEN. f.\SN'E> ^••117:1 .ch ... We xM-rr not ill ihiil lime fur i-noiigli iilnnu «ilh the iiiv. .-.lipilKm. \V. Iiailnl <-.>in|>lrlr.l lli< |>iiii of it lli.-it \m ihtiI,-.! |.. •{„ will, liim u. oirr fii>toily. \Yc ti>l.l thi-m I.. In- Imrk Ijy !• ii ..Vl.xk lli<- lu-.vl ULiniiuj:. Siimlii.v, Unit ll^i.^ wuiiUl l><- niily cnlill full of iuwmikh. Wi- told llit in tin sjuiK- thing. Now llii>. on our imrt. iliil inilicjiti' cvrluinly lh;it w^ tl:-;!!'! inlcii'l to lijuisfor him prior to tvn o'eloik. aiul we ilinicn lo l)r jircM-nl ivsrinllc-.-. of Ihi- lime iho Iran-sfcr was inawalil under cover of d»rkne.s.s. It lia» Imn'ii .said to us lliat lline o'clock in the niorninj; when the streets w.rr vacant and di>i-ilcd wouKI have been the proper time. Well, tliore arc a couplrof fallacies in this. The .sircel.s were not vacant and deserted at Ihivc o'clock in the morning, and the hallways were not vacant and deserted at three oelock in the morning. The .scenes that you just sjiw on sliilcs might well have been made at three o'clock in the morning. I don't know what lime they were made, but they could have been made almost at any lime of ihc day. There \va.s not any time at which the newsmen said. "'VYcll. Ufs close ilown for the day and reassemble here at seven o'clock in the morn- ing." They were there around the clock. People were in the siircts around the clock, so regardless of the lime we selected, we were going to have to make a Iran.sfer with people present. The hours of ilarkness we felt were bad. Wc needed as great ii degree of visibility as po.ssible to provide as great a degree of prolection as possible. We needed daylight. Wc fell that da>light worked best for us. We were not la.\ in our efforts to provide sp«-urity unil we didn't approach this with the lackadaisical .iltitudc we have l>een charged with Obviously our efforts were ina killed in our allempt to transfer him. But we did take precautions prior lo the transfer, prior to the murder — precautions we thought woghl be en- tirely adequate. The newsmen began to as.semble in the parking area very early in the morning. Wc went into the parking area and requested them to leave. Then memliers of the department went over the entire parking area.We looked every place where a person could conci'ivably hide. We checked every vehicle in the parking stations. We even opened the trunks of these cars and looked inside lo nuike sure that no one was hiding there. We stationed men on all doorways leading into the basement, all ramps leading into the basement, all stairways, all elevators, ramps — everything loading into the basement. Then wc brought the new.smcn back in, checking their credentials if they were not recognii!e^_ happen. J J^ \ Again this is not a condemnation of the press for being there and it LVi is not an attempt on our part to evade the rcsiwnsibility that wc had "-^ either. Newsmen were there becau.sc we permitted them to be there. My next remark I hesitate to make. I feel like I .ini -ur. ('•i-tir , mii-t l.iiv.^ felt when he mihi "Don't '.•>..• «ji~ij:ii«>r>si;-u>< ' .£«M » i».i'<- lh ii m ^i'-#iVw<^ —vr»t—«(re—iM e e — . ' ' I « i l i ii t r .l i 'il in. — , . .r If you have i. I haven't covered everything that you are interested in. .-VI .---->-.' V -- " ;.v.-,-r^ I Glen D. King Exhibit jih — King Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 456 question^ lalT in llir- proiT.-. n.l If 1 am .il.l. l.> :ui-v.. 1I..1,, I mIM be Kla.l Iti .1.. ... If 1 liavr t,. ryfi lu^.fn.iii an>».riiii: iIi.m, I . - .1. '' , V,.vC also. I promise vow thnl I Nvon'l refrain from answirinp cm .if xi.nr f|M< «• tions liocHiisc 1 think it is loo hoi to handle. I won't l)ceaiisr 1 think il reflects unfavorably on my (ieiiartmcnt or upon myself and if 1 do bccau.sc of tliis reason, I'll tell you about it. -/ -H ' I Mr. Ulack: As'T said when we introdurcd this panel, we have here ^^^^ thismorning only people who are basically friendly toward the press vjut^' but who are still concerned about some aspects of the performance at L^. Dallas. Our next speaker, Mr. Iloma Hill, is chairman of the Public Rela- tions Committee of the State Bar of Texas and has been in that post for a number of .years. .\s a result, we owe him quite a debt for the fact that Texas is one of the states where Canon 35 has not-- been in efTecl. As you know, it is the practice in Texas for judges to have the au- thority to permit cameras in their court. Mr. Hill has supported the press in this position down through the years and in many other of the fights down there. lie has consistently been a defender of the press. Mr. Hill is a gradmitc of Baylor University. He b«is been a director and vice president of, the State Bar of Texas. In addition to his chairr. manship of the I'ublic Relations Committee, he has al.so served as a member of the special committee that determined this policy of the bar on Canon 35. In 19C0, he received from the Texas Sigma Delta Chi nn award for service in journalism in Texas for outstanding contributions to freedom of information. So he comes to us with good credentials as our friend. ^ Early this year, Mr. Hill, in a letter to President Herb BruckefTKoidT ^ "The news media was very guilty of putting public officials under pres- sure and detailing evidence in such a manner that it would almost have been impossible to have ever given Lee Oswald a fair trial within the United States." He is concerned about the ramifications of this in Texas. He sees ua in danger of losing some ground that has been gained down there. We are very glad to have Mr. Hill with us to detail the progress itself. Mr. Homa Hill: I am glad that I. was introduced as a friend of the press in the past. When I get through here today, though, there may be those who wonder. I hope I come out as well as Mf. Brucker did a few years ago when he came to Texas as chairman of your Freedom of Information Qommittee and made a speech. The first half of his speech was devoted to freedom of the press, the second half was to a defense of the Supreme Court of the United States at our annual convention of the State Bar. Many of the people were represented in their thinking by a man next to me who, at the conclusion of Mr. Brucker's remarks, said, "I don't agree with a damn thing he has said, but I accord him the right to say them." We look forward in July at our State Bar convention to hearing Mr. Ralph McGill. I think it is well that we hear each other at times. I am glad to come here today to associate with men who exercise such responsibility in molding public opinion in the United States. I have had the good pleasure of working with news media through many years. I had a good beginning back in college when I had the job of being chauffeur, butler, and valet to distinguished guests who visited the Baylor campus. For some six hours one day I had the pleasure of • -V being with William Allen White, George B. Dealey and Dean Walter ^, 1 'v Williams of the School of Journalism at the University of Mis.souri. So I.. \ I have always thought of you and the men who comprise the editorial profession as being men of that caliber. King Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 457 romtnent on that point? P-.i;aiii«NT B«« -KIM I Ihiiik. i<^. thflt woiil.l he a lUHltrr for U.-inl »ct«.i.Ihmk curb ..( u' «•> unlivi.UiuU lumht hiix<- opinion. iiU.ui I il I know that Uun* Vn^Rini. a former Fol Chairman >uui f..r irr ASNE President, is deeply suspicious that anything of this kind would every- lead to the things that make us insist on the fullest publicity for thing. I myself think there is never any harm in study and would like to see ASNE go along with it just so long as we are not bound by the outcome. But I think this is a pretty serious matter of state that you have raised and we had better not leave il to a momentary opinion but bet- ter have the board study it. Mr. Black: I might say this is one area in which we very much look forward to the counsel and advice of Mr. Rogers. Do we have other questions for members of our panel? Mr. David E. Gillespik, Charlotte Observer: Mr. Chairman, any of the members of the panel might want to comment on this q.'cstion. since I am sure all of them are familiar with the problem that Eric Sevareid wrote about in his analysis of what happened to the break- down of justice and order in Dallas. His theory was that Dallas, although it is metropolitan in area, has not developed a metropolitan scn.-.t' of the dispensation of justice in the ^J , -iTj^gJL contact of its officials with the press and with the public. fji^f*^^^^ We may have seen sonu- of this perhaps in interviews with the judge ^ui'tnni — Belli we can discount of course — but is there not something Jo (ic snid in this case for the haiulling of the press and the public by th'^ individuals involved — the police chief, district attorney, the judge j;! i so on? Is thire anythis'.j; to be said on this side? "Ir. M( Knight: I made myself a promise and I will attempt to keep it. I ilid read this piece, and I don't remember all of it now, of course. But I would like to confine any remarks 1 have to the press aspect of ti.ii-' sti>ry and not to the problems of my study. 1 come here, I suppose, wit'i a certain amount of sin and guilt, as any other i>erson docs in the room. We are not pure. Ation is not an exact thing and, in my opinion, based on my experience as a police ofRcer, this was not a description that was at all out of line. We get eye-witness descriptions in all kinds of offenses that arc inaccurate in certain details. The description that I heard broadcast was not far from the truth. Mr. McKnight: May I rescue the Cai)tain on one point, knowing the restrictions around. There are two points I think, should be made. First of all, all of you will recall that Oswald went home and changed ,clothing after the assassination of the President and before the murder of Officer Tippit. Number two, probably Captain King couldn't say this, but I think there are witnesses to the Tippit shooting. I don't know whether "Com- mentary" mentioned this. 9- ^Tn Ri c'-.;-?^!..r.,:>-yoq7-&3rb-L.-.K?v:-3-!;s3 a ViUeslitTTT? . - Mr. RoBi;RT W. Lucas, Hartford Times: Captain, you said you were not at liberty to say how Jluby got into the basement. Later you said a.fS^i^.^C'Ou that the pressure of the newsmen made it^iOwUiieMor hnii to get mto the basement. Then you also said that something happened at one of the locations where you apparently had guards. Can you tell us any- thing more about that? Captain Kino: I don't recall having said the pressure of the news- men made it possible for him to get into the location. I said sor.Kthing had occurred that distracted the attention of one of the officers on his tasi^ned position and made it possible. I ron't octu-iUy go anv further on it. I am Hfraid. than I alrrad>-, - taj_'_i3-. If I ^r)-v«-> rr- f -|-,.-..-r-.-A, ,1 "t )..-.,„ p r.-^.i. ..,— t. -.4 _J. I . . . ^ newimcli, Uiis-is nicorrtcl.^ uuiiv-l— ,ani-lliat-lie-ivxi»-,uuu-Ui--u_uiuiii ^ .have gone. did say, or if I gave you the impression that he came If I into the basement or he was able to enter the basement because of the newsmen, this is incorrect. I think I said that he wa^s able to remain >: King Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 459 /there long enough to do what he did because he was able to mix with / newsmen iaiDOwe didn't recognize. Certainly if the newsmen had not beer. .' there,. iC.the basement had been occupied only by police officers with itr»>invn-we_«li;iiizf .A «-no...... " ' ' -v . ,'... • , '., , ' . .. ,;• /• • V^thf rf . if the basement had bt-oii Dccupuil-oiily by poUc-f (>|llccl.^'^^.V./'-^;••^'i^'-V^..'<,^•.;v.^;, .•;, we were personally acquainted, then Ruby couldn't have stayed .U—whom tHereTorTg jl^r-'O'*^^' a;Vr>:^g-lTtr But I didn't mean to imply that he came in through the efforts of the newsmen. As a matter of fact, I can say this additional thing. There has been speculation that he came in through collusion with a i.ulice ofTucr. There has been speculation that he came in through collusion with newsmen y^ or a newsman. The facts as we believe them to e.\ist indicate that this ,'^ is not true, that there was not collusion with either a police officer or ,' / with a newsman. > Mr. Hemiy Schulte, Savannah News-Press: We have spent the morning chastizing ourselves because of a potential miscarriage of jus- tice, but I think what we are all overlooking is the fart that this was the story of the century and that people like us, editors all over the country and the world, wanted everything they could got out of Dallas. I for one wanted everything. Now in view of this, and with this in mind, I'd like to ask Mr. Mc- Knight, as a newspaperman who was on the scene, if you had this to do over again, how might you have done it differently antl still perform your mission as a newspaperman? Mr. McKmcht: It is a good question, and I agree with what you say. I would not change a thing. I didn't have time to change anything. I had four hours and a half that afternoon to get out three editions. We are not challenging what was written, and that is the reason I prefer to stay out of that area. I am only challenging the manner of coverage. That is our problem more than what was written. Yes, I think you were entitled to every shred of information out of Dallas, and we certainly attenii)ted to give it to you from the local sources. I only raised the question for the future what do we do with — this problem of "the regiments," as I believe Herb Brucker termed it? It is a problem of coverage, not what is written. I would not challenge one line of copy that went out of Dallas or I wouldn't change it if we had to do it over again. ^|n TKi Af-T.-- A lief -rou-ctinii frnyn Al Fripnilly^ Mr. Alkked Frik.ndly, Wa.shington Post: I would like to direct this question to Captain King. You say at one point that you examined the credentials of the press in the police station at the time of the Oswald transfer. We, on the other hand, heard this was vcyy perfunctory. 'I'hcre is one story that a fel- low went into the basement, and did not have proi)cr creilentials. They invited him in merely on the say-so of another man who identified him. The other man had never seen tin- jxilicc olTlcer before. My question is are you satisfied tnat inspection of the credentials of the press was sys- tematic and exacting? Cai'tain King: I think really to answer liiis properly you have to take into consideration the conditions and circumstances. If we had had time to set up a system wlureiiy we established [Kjsitive idcntifica- . "' ' tion for the iu;wsmen, this probably wouldn't have been adequate, -'"i ' v^- ^ King Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 460 15—ASNE— 23173— KS Newsmen came into the city of Dallas who had no idcatificntion locally. Obviously, for many of them, it was the first time they had ever been in Dallas in their lives. So they arc not going to have local identi- fication and they are not known personally to us. Many of them came in whom we were able to identify and who didn't have any identifica- tion with them. They had come down and had left it in their hotel, something like this. It has been our experience in the past that the newsmen are the best allies you can have in keeping merely interested bystanders away from the scene of a police incident. At the scenes of our automobile accidents, at scenes of burglaries and robberies and all of these offenses, if a newsman comes up to one of our officers whom he does not know and the officer doesn't know him and the newsman does not have his identification with him, we tell the officers to check with other news- men. If the other newsmen present arc willing to identify him and are willing to verify the fact that he is a newsman, then he is admitted. We feel newsmen don't want outsiders in. This did occur probably. So far as a positive identification of the newsmen, no, we didn't, we couldn't, I think. We did check credentials on them and we did, I think, use reasonable methods. Mr. Black: Is Jack Kruegcr still with us? CNo rofiponne-V A Member: He slipped out a few minutes ago. Mr. Black: I wanted to ask him if he wanted to participate in this program. He had chosen to let Felix represent the Dallas press, but I did want to give him the opportunity to make any comments that he had. I want to thank the members of our panel for a very stimulating discussion. ^'%.- --^^REEDOM \ An AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRESS The Honor Arthur Address by adle J. GoLDnERC, ^Associate Justice, Supreme Court of the UNiTf;D States Mr.^Iiles H. Wolff, Greensboro Daily News, presiding: When ./C'CtxcL-c^a,^ I was asked to introduce Justice Arthur Goldberg, I had every intention of sticking to truly biographical data. \ I was going you that he was horn in Chicago, attended to tell public schools there and wound up receiving his B.S. and Doctor of Jurisprudence degrees from Xorthwestern. I had intended >o tell you, further, that he practiced law in Chicago and gradually moved^'into the labor union field to the exclusion of other work. He became General Ci)ointed him to the high post -of Secretary of Labor. _ \ The President did not leave him^Jlurc long. In" 1962, he asked the Secretary of Labor to move on to Ihl Supreme Court as As.sociate Justice. 'VS. At thiscould have stopped, H^a unfortunately, I started point I reading the clips on our speaker. They weru. fascinating, and I felt constrained to pass a few choice items on to you. \^ For example. Time Magazine had this to report\Goldbcrg gradu.ited from high school at 15 and enterei) upon a triple-tiniKexistcnce. Morn- ings he went to junior college; afternoons he attended DePaul Univer- sity and nights he held down a post office joli. As a tired-e\;eil eighteen- year-old, he was admitted to law s(h(i^ know exactly what to include and what to orait. In approxinately fifteen '^^ minutes I must try to summarize the days of preparation of the President's .x*^ visit to Dallas, and the weeks of investigation followin^j his assassination'^ "- there. « % remarks are necessarily going to be to a certain extent incoherent./". An account of all that has occurred would take hours rather than the few /• ,., '' "^> minutes I have. My task is primarily one of selection and I apologiza to -* , you in advance if i fail to address points in which you are particularly ? ^ ^ interested. Another thing 1 must explain at the outset - investigations into the circumstances surrounding the assassination continue. While we have no indication of exactly when they will be completed we confidently expect that everything that can be learned will be learned and will eventually be made public knowledge. At the present time certain information in possession of investigative agencies has not been released. It has been indicated to the Dallas Police Department that the Warren Commission, studying the assassination, would prefer that no comments be made regarding certain evidence accumulated against Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby. So, to a degree I am here under limitations. Certain things I am not permitted to discuss. I must honor the limitations placed upon me. At times I might seem inconsistent to you, for I may discuss parts of a question and must decline comraent on other parts. Perhaps I might err in my appraisal of King Exhibit No. 5 462 what is proper for discussion and what is not. I have to be the one who decides how far I go, I do proraise you this - I will not fail to answer any question you pose because of a desire to be evasive. I will not refrain frora answering merely because I think ny answer will not reflect favorably on rac or ny Department. If I fail to field one of your questions because I think it is too hot to handle 1 will very frankly tell you so. The activities of the Dallas Police Department, so fax as this subject is concerned, fall into rather clearly definable categories. One is our preparation for the visit of President Kennedy to the City of Dallas on Novetaber 22, 1963. The Police Departwent first beczirac officially aware of his impending visit on November 13, nine days prior to his arrival. Of course, we knew from newspaper accounts in advance of this date tliat he was coming. It was, however, on V.'ednesday, November 13, that we first iset v/ith members of the Secret Service to receive authoritative notification that the President would visit Dallas. From that tine until November 22 there were at least daily conferences and on most days several conferences were held. I night point out here that at that tine the position of the Dallas Police Department was purely supportive. Tlie Air Force had primary responsibility for seeing that the President arrived ih Dallas safely, and the Secret Service had primary responsibility for his continued safety after his arrival. It was the responsibility of the Police Department to assist the Secret Service in any manner possible. Our plans for security called for attention to three specific locations - first, the airport at which the President would de pliuie; second, the route his motorcade would follow to the Trade Mart, the location at which he was \ 2 King Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 463 to speak, and; third, at the Trade Mart itself. To provide as £;rcat a decree of safety as possible a Deputy Chief and fifty-four raenbcrs of the Pallas Police Dcpartnient v/cre at Dallas Love Field when the President's plane arrived. They assisted in crowd control i\t that location and did those tilings necessary to insure that the President's Kotorcade left the airport on tine. An additional 178 men were assigned to the parade route. As a part of the planning process raeiiibers of the Police Department and representatives of the Secret Service traveled over the parade route and decided at what locations officers v/ould be needed. At tlie request of the Secret Service we assigned an officer at each signalized intersection through which the motorcade would pass. Additionally, we assigned from two to four men at eacli intersection where a turn would be made, because of the belief tliat at these locations the crowd would be heaviest. We assigned men to all locations where the motorcade would pass under a bridge or railroad trestle. Without being asked to do so we assigned plain-clotJies detectives and uniform officers to patrol blocks where the crowds were expected to be the heaviest, . " At the Trade Mart we assigned 63 men to work the parking area outside and 150 men under the command of a Deputy Cliief to provide security inside. In all 447 men were used on specific assignments associated with the President's visit. The very great majority of these men were off-duty personnel* Approximately 400 off-dut^' men were brought back on duty to supplement the regularly assigned details. Of 1100 total strength of the Department nt least 350 were on duty at the time of the President's arrival. 1 mentioned that the role of the Pallas Police Department in preparing ' . 3 King Exhibit No. 5 — ContiiuiP'^' 464 for the visit of the President v;as a supportive one. In the few seconds' it tool; to fire the shots that took the President's life the role of the nepartruent chanced from one of support to one of primary jrcsponsibility for tha invcotication of his death. At the location of the assassination investigators were able to quickly determine that an employee had been at uvirk prior to the assassination, but was raissinn; after the offense. A description of this nan was secured and was broadcast on the police radio. The description was "A slender white male, about 30 years of age, about 5' 10" tall, weighing about 165 pounds, carrying what looked like a 30-30 rifle or sorae type V>'inchester." At 1;18 p.ra, a citizen cane on the police radio, to report that an Officer had been shot in the 400 block of east 10th street, approxinate.ly 2 miles from the scene of the assassination of the President. Later investigation revealed that Dallas Police Officer J. D. Tippit had approached a man subsequently identified as Lee Harvey Oswald, and had been killed by Oswald, Since both Officer Tippit and Oswald arc now dead, v/e can only speculate on wliat probably happened at the scene of the Officer's death. Officer Tippit was driving his squad car east on Tenth Street, when he observed Oswald walking west on tlie south side of the street. The Officer pulled alongside Oswald, and talked to hira briefly across the front seat of the police car. The Officer then got out of the car and walked around to the front of it. When he reached the front of the car Oswald opened fire. His three shots struck Officer Tippit in the temple, the forehead and the chest. Any of the three would probably have been fatal. Oswald fled the scene on foot, and a short time later the Dcpartnwjnt received 4 King Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 465 information that he had entered a theatre in the 200 block of West Jefferson, seven blocks from tlic scene of the Officer's death. Policcracn converged on the theatre, and a searcii was bcgiin. Officer M. N. McDonald approached a man later identified as Oswald in the contor section of tho thoatco, thrao rows fron the back. As he approached, Oswald said, "This is it," and attempted to draw a gun. Officer McDonald grappled with him, disarmed hira and placed hin under arrest. He was ironediateiy taken to the Central Police Station for interrogation by rccmbers of the Homicide and Robbery Bureau. He arrived at Police Headquarters approximately an hour and ten minutes after he killed the President. Vuien Oswald arrived at the police station it was already cro-^ed with newsmen. They had begun to arrive within minutes of the assassination, and within an hour the hallways resembled the scenes you saw on your televisions and in your newspapers. From that time until many hours after the murder of Oswald tlie hallways were congested by newsmen. We have been severely criticized by a great number of people for permitting newsmen to remain in the hallways of police headquarters. Perhaps this criticism is justified. At that time v;e felt a necessity for permitting r' the newsmen as much latitude as possible. V/c realized the magnitude of the \ incident the newsmen were there to cover, V/e realized that not only the nation but the world would be greatly interested in what occurred in Dallas. We believed that we had an obligation xo niake as v/idely known as possible everything we could regarding the investigation of the assassination and the manner in wliich ve undertook that investigation. i We realized that if we hid the most important prisoner of the century from the public eye, accusations would be made that he actually did not ^, f 5 King Exhibit No. 5— Continued 466 co.-Mit the offense with which he was charged and that we had fabricated a suspect. VVe realized that improper investigation procedures could be charged against us. As a matter of fact, even with the openness v;ith which we uptoroachod tho inveatics^tion we heard murmur a in thla vain. \a short tine after Oswald's arrest one newsman held up a photograph and said, 'Tlhis is v/hat the nan charged with the assassination of the President looks like. Or at least this is what he did look like. \ie don't know what he looks like after an hour in the custody of the Dallas Police Department." I believe that what was a whisper would have been a deafening roar of protest had we failed to make available to the public all possible information concerning our investigation. Many persons who criticized us for permitting newsmen to remain at the scene have admitted that they lived in front of their television sets with their newspapers in their hands. We were, I am sure, in a position of being "Damned if we did and damned if we didn't.** ' V.'e have been further criticized for announcing to the press the time of tlie anticipated transfer of Oswald. Without in any way attempting to . evade responsibility for any action which we took, let me briefly explain how the statement of a 10 o'clock transfer came about. On Saturday night some of the newsmen, who had been at the station constantly since shortly after the assassination, approached our Assistant Chief and asked if they would have time to get soraething to eat before Oswald was transferred. They were told that if they were back by 10 o'clock the next morning, they would be in time for the transfer. This statement did indicate to the newsmen our intention to transfer Oswald sometime after V 6 King Exhibit No. 5—Continued 467 j 10:00 a.n. Sunday ind it did indicate our intention to permit thera to be | present when the transfer was made. VJe didn't know exactly at v;hat tine we could effect the transfer. V.'e were sure it would not be prior to ""1 , 10 o' clock.. V/c l;avc been oskcd why we did not transfer hin under cover of darkncoa when the police station and the streets were empty. In the first place, visibility at nipht is greatly reduced and we felt that we needed as great a degree of visibility as possible to provide as great a degree of security as possible. We felt that darkness would work against us and v;ould serve as an ally to anyone who might choose to attack from that darkness. I Also, so far as the crowd at the City Hall was concerned there was little difference between 3:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. At no hour were the hallways clears I am sure that if we had waited a week to make the transfer there would have still been a large number of newsmen in the police station around the clock. Again, this is not an attempt on my part to evade responsibility. Obviously, the newsmen were in the police station because we permitted them to be there. They were exercising a privilege we gave thera^ ' The attempted transfer of Oswald to the County Jail was not accompanied by the lackadaisical attitude with v;hich we I;ave been frequently charged. We took far greater precautions than we believed to be necessary. Prior to the transfer members of our Department went into the basement and required everyone there to leave. With flashlight^ they then searched every nook and cranny where anyone might hide. They searched every automobile there to be sure that no one had concealed himself, even opening the trunks to make sure that they were not occupied. 7 King Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 468 Man were s-fcationed on every stainvay , every elevator, eveiy ranp and every doorway leading to the parking area. Then -^'j newsmen were permitted to cone back into the parking area after their credentials had been checked. I am not permitted to say how Jack Ruby gained entrance into the police bascr;cnt. Wc arc convinced wc know exactly how it waa done, but Z have been asked not to coruncnt on it, I will say that it v;as a momentary breakdown of security at one specific location and th^t Ruby did not gain entrance by collusion either with a newsman or a policeman, both of which possibilities have been frequently voiced. ' There is no question that the presence of a large number of news media representatives in the basement made it possible for Kuby to enter and murder Oswald. Again, tliis is not an attempt on ray part to place responsibility on the shoulders of the press. The newsmen were in the basement because we permitted them to be thcre._^ I realize that rry remarks have ignored entire areas and that I have touched very lightly upon many points I have attempted to cover. At the proper time I sliall be liappy to try to answer any questions you might hove that come v/ithin the limitations imposed upon me. 8 King Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 469 o FD-302 (R«v. 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUR^A'J OF INVESVIG T|ON ' 1 Date Dec. 10, 1963 Mr. ABRAI-TA'^i KLEINI-IAj>I„ 1189 Templemore Drive, Apartment B, telephone DA 1-3927, was intzerviewed at his place of business. Union Fidelity Building, Room 1104, 1511 Bryan Street, at which time he advised he is self-employed as a .Certified Public Accountant and has resided in the Dallas area for the past 59 years He stated he first met JACK RUBY around 1952 and has knoTiiTn a casual basis for at least 10 years. KLEIKIIAN hira on was unable to recall the. exact circumstances surrounding their acquaintance, but stated he has been in the Dallas area for a long time and is acquainted with moat of the busitessmen in this area. He related th.it his association with RUBY was more or less a business acqiwlntance rather than a social acquaintance and explained this by saying that he had never been \dLth RUBY on any social excursions; however, has done a certain amount of accounting busiiie.ss for RUBY in connection with ruby's night clubs. Carousel and Vegas Clubs, both of wtibh he described as being local night spots in Dallas. KLEINMAN stated RUBY first contacted him back in 1956 and requested some accounting work in connection with the Carousel Club. He could recall doing very little accounting work for RUBY at that particular time and related he has h^d no other busirsss connections with RUBY until this past year. It V7as sometime in October of 1962 that RUBY contacted him again and requested that he handle the accounts for both the Carousel and the Vegas Clubs. In connection with this, Mr. KLEINl'IAN stated he h-^s prepared and filed the tax returns for the Carousel Club but ha.s been unable to prepare the Vegas Club account to present. Ke vyent on to say tnat he had considerablei difficulty with the records of the Carousel Club and explained this by saying that RUBY m^aintained very few records and as a general rule, hisd carried the business on a cash basis. In regard to RUBY°s business » KLEINMAN advised all the records* pertaining to both the' Carousel and Vegas Clubs are presently in the hands of Mr. BOB KLEIN of the Internal Revenue Service, located in Dallas, Texas. He added that the /^ or/ on Vllll^Z ot Dallas, Texas File # DL 44-1639 LANSING P. LOGAN h by Special Agon.s ALTON E. BRAMBLETT/csh ^^^^ ,.^,^,^, 12/10/63 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclu^- ' ' '—s-'----''^r»j ^'A-t5partment ahd would endeavor to locate WADE for DuNCAN. MOORE stated that he immedia-tely departed for the Police Department in an effort to contact HENRY WADE and upon arrival to the Police Department,, learned ^that WADE had already made a statement to the- press and 'had supposedly left. MOORE stated that RUBY walked up to him In the Police Department and told him WADE was in the basement of the Police, Department and directed him to WADE. MOORE statedhe talked to WADE momentarily and when he got through, RUBY was gone. He stated that he returned to the ra<^lo station at approximately 1^45 a.m., November 23, 1963* and RUBY was there and had brougiit sandwiches and soft drinks to the station. He stated he does not recall specifically what PJJBY had to say, bi& recalls he was grieving for the KENNEDY ^family. He stated ha recallsi that RUBY handed hinr a speech and said, "read this and see what you think about it." He stated he still has this speech which is dated June I9, I963, put oyt by "Life Line", by H. L. HUjri, entitled, ."Heroism." MOORE said that this was the last time he saw RUBY and that- he has no information concerratng the whereabouts of RUBY at the time of -fhe assassination of the President and knCws nothing about any trips RU^Y has mape .out of the city of Dallas. », * • I V. -f-J ^ ji'jXfjf^. KnigKt, Russell Exhibit L ' S^*'i ^\' -^"^ i;-29-63 Dallas, Texas /' p,,_^ ~ DJkk- l639 on . ot FiU # ALFRED D, PEIJEY& J, by Speciol Agent ctbuM RtCJ^ m^ : . Date dictoUt-29'63 _ and U loaned to ThU docum.nt conloln. neither recrfxERO '''"o"" """ conclu.lon. o( the FbT.' It le «h. jj^^'^j.rty o( the FBI r:\ copy! be dlelrlbuted outalde your agencr. copy ''"' ... ooencr; II and Ite eontente are O your /i / » ^ ^__^^ f:: .4 n (?A'y , Y Knight Exhibit No. 1 473 Kramer Exhibit No. 1 474 Kramer Exhibit No. 2 475 FO.Joa (ii.T..ji^.».) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT(ON 1 "* "- - n»t« November 29, 19^3 HERBERT B. KRAVITZ, 4039 Cole Avenue, advised h« l8 a salesman for Supada Cravats Neck Wear Company; that he has lived In Dallas, Texas, for one and a half years. KRAVITZ advised that he flust met JACK RUBY when he . - and a 'friend, EARL BARKER, a' musician, were at a Chinese restaurant In Dallas called Yee's. He said RUBY Introduced himself to them as RUBY had seen BARKER playing at, a club' earlier In the evening. RUBY' Invited them to come to. his club (Carousel Club), which they did the following eV'enlng. RUBY ''picked up the tab" for all of their expenses at^^hd Carousel Club during that evening. After the club closed, they went to a restaurant where they talked until about 4:00 or 5:00 a.m. KRAVITZ said RUBY told them his life's story, 'which story was the same as recently set forth In the newspapers. » KRAVITZ advised he went back to the Carousel , ,_^'^ Club on two later occasions, the last of which was on November " ^^ •' 20, 1963. He was with a date, ELAINE ROGERS, and recalled that ^ he won a stuffed cat at the drawing for the door prize at ^" j the club. He said he did not particularly want to go i' ; .to the club on that date as RUBY had earlier asked him to « attend Jewish church services with him, and he had declined. ^ ' However, he went to the club as Miss ROQEPIS wanted to see S . a friend of hers who was dancing at the club. / 3- „ td KRAVITZ advised he never discussed any political , * beliefs with RUBY and had no real close association with > ^ him. He advised, that from his knowledge of RUBY he did ' g- not believe RUBY to b6 a "homosexual." ' ^ KRAVITZ advised he has Tie ver "been arrested; that he is 23 years of age; th^t he has^eyer been married. on 11/27/63 „ Dallas. Texas Pi,. ^ PL 44-1639 JOSEPH Q. PEGGS & by Sp.eiol Afl>nB AT.VTN .T. ZTMMERMAN/p.ah Dot* dictated 11/28/6^ I \ TtiU 4oauB«Bl ••••laa nalthaf r«aeaB«adaUen« nor eonoluslona oi th* FBI. Il la tka proyaHy af Ika TBI Vpar •%tmmtt II «b4 Ma •aalaal* mn aal la ka 4taUlb«la4 aataUa jraar avaaafa 4 la laaaa4 la KRAVITZ Exhibit No. 1 476 jKx.No.5106 KRISS^H.U. Deposition_ Dallas 3-26-6.; OL 44-1639/eah "November 26. 1963 "Mr. J. E. Curry "Chief of Police "Sir: 'On Sunday, November 24, at approximately 9:45 A.M., I arrived at the basement of the City Hall and reported to Captain Arnett. They had just completed searching the basement, I had no specific assignment. I was told to stand around ind keep my eyes open, to let no-one in the part of the basement where the cars come and leave unless they had a Press Card. 'I noted every car that came into the basement was thoroughly searched by the regular officers. "At different times I walked up both ramps to observe the ^ crowds thdt were gathering, and talked to the officers standing at both entrances to the basement. X. "I was constantly bothered by reporters, asking questions and wanting information which I did not know. "1 was told rumors were that there were several threats going around, and that was the reason for all the security. "Prior to Oswald's arrival from the Jail Of lice \.e v-erc told to keep the Press against the railing and to keep one side clear, which we did. In a few minutes Oswald cams out of the door and had just rounded the corner. I was looking at his face, and in just a fraction of a second later I saw a blur, ray thoughts were that some reporter was attacking him (Oswald). 1 then heard a muffled shot, and heard someone say 'get the Doctor." I saw Captain Arnett grappling in the crowd and ran to his aid, but saw he was O.K. Then, heard someone holler not to let anyone out, so I ran halfway up the North ramp and stood there. No-one passed. "I did not know the subject Ruby and had never seen him to the best of my knowledge. "Respectfully, . , "/s/ Harry M. Kriss "Harry M. Kriss "Lieutenant "Dallas Police Reserve" C^ («? SiT Kriss Exhibit No. 5106 477 -64— vol. XX 32 ro4o2 (R.». jo-so) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ^ ^\^^ \..^^ n«t» 12/4/63 "^ ^ HARRY U. ICRISS, 6906 IlerriloQ Lano, Dallas, Tosas, <" \^ vzc intervioued at tho offico of tho Federal Bureau of ^ ^0" Investisation, Dallas. Eo was advised that ho v;a3 not re- "^ quired to raako a statez".cnt; that any statement "ho v;ould aako might bo used against hin in a court of law; and that he had ^ / ^ the right to legal counsel bojfore making a statement. ' V ^ ISr. KRISS advised that he is a reserve officer of the Dallas, Texas, Police Departaent, having the rank of Lieutenant. He is employed by tho Sweet Manufactiiring Com- r pany, 1100 Commerce Street, Dallas. -* C^ \> KRISS stated that on Kovenber 24, 1963, at 9:45 AU,^ ho received a call from Lieutenant IZcGOY of the Dallas Police Department requesting him to report to duty immediately to assist in working tit^fic in the general area of the driveway loading to the parking area of -iae basement of the City Hall, Ee put on his uaiiZorni and reported to the basement of the City Eall at about 10:00 ALI. Y.'hen he arrived there., he no- ticed that the basement area at the intersection of the ramps and corridor leading from the jail office to the raaps was full of people, mostly newsprper men. The remaining individ- uals appeared to be all _.^jl_wO officers, either regular or reservists.' About r.u hour later, he recalls that there must have beon nearly a hundred individuals in the area, mostly newsmen. Ee could not identify any newsmen and recrJls that other than himself, ho recognized police officers present as Captains ARNETT, JONES, and KING; and Sergeants D3AN, PUTNAU, aiid TROY. He does not recall their initials or first names. Ee recalls that police officers made a search and check of the entire jail area, including all persons present and all vehicles parked at the parking area. He added that he recalls that they even checked to determine that the trunks of the automobiles v;ere locked. He stated that he is not acquainted with the particular instructions given officers concerning secvirity measures, but he felt that the police were doing their utmost to determine that all individuals present were either police officers or members of the pi'ess, and to make sure that no unauthorized individuals entered. He stated th£it he does not know of any unauthorized persons that may have been permitted to enter the area. « .NO.PJ.U/ KRISS,H.M. Deposition Dallas 3-26-64 12/3/63 Dallas, Texas **« 44-1639 Filoifi! P.CBEST J. WILKISON and by Special Ao.n^ s y^D^'Om) C. PAEDIN lip p^^. jj^^^^d 12/4/63 Thta document coatalna naitber neomiiMndatloiis nor conelnalona o( tho FBI. It rour ogoncy; It and iU conlonu ara net la bo dtatiltoolod outaida yoor aganoy. U tho proporty of tho FBI and in loanod to Kbiss Exhibit No. 5107 478 DL ^4-1639 V.'Iicn he arrived in tho br.cci'nGr-t, ho ctc/cloricC hir.:- . C3l'2 on tho couthwes;; corner Oa \ho Cow.jerce rc:;.p, where the corridor connects with this ra:?.p. The corridor led f roi?j uie jail office >.'oor and fron double doers v/hich led irito the City Hall and to elevators further on. The Kenbers of 1.3 press were lined up alon^ the wall opposite IG?cISS, and police officers v;ere sca''^-ered about at various locations. IC":ISS stated that when OSuAlD was brought downstairs and throu2;h the Jail office door out iuto the corridor, he, IC?.ISS, was unable at first to observe OSV/ALD and the police officers es- corting hin, due to the fact the corner of the ra:::p obstructed his view. Le stated that when GSV.7iLD arrived to v;ithin tv;o or three steps of the spot where he was shot, he began to be able to observe hln and his escort, V/hen CS17ALD was shot, he v;as looking in the general direction of OS'.'/ALD, and, due to .*e bright lights of the carjeras ISlSSvras partially blinded and dees not recall seeing Ru3Y beginning his r-ove to approach CSuV-LLj, but Kiereiy saw RUBY's action as a blur and got the i;."iprec2ion that he v-iust have been a reporter atte::3pting to get closer for a shot ... .i -j.s cancer a. lie added that he does not recall seeing rrj2Y in the area prior to the ti~ie he shot 0S'.7ALD and does not know anyone with v;hom OSV/ALD may have spoken beforehand. IIRISS stated tliat he is not acquainted with RIBY nd never knew OSV'ALD. Ee added that he has never been e:;:- ployed by RUBY and lcnov;s of no other individuals who have been er.iployed by hira. Ee added that he does not know of any possible relationship which aay have existed between RiBY and OSV.'ALD. r re. -J I'^-a Kriss Exhibit No. 5107 — Continued 479 MAIN ST. Kbiss Exhibit No. 5108 480 !! ^czi^e;^ 3 -^' C? ~1 4f:>f7tJ- •I *h.. Of, -— : DO NOT W«ir£ ABOVt t*Uf It N ^^Mt f fc/f^v-R E /y'^rf-ry- I PAY AMOUNT: rg^ij^CENrS. I 1 1 TO. >f"/?/re// 77jg77/y> 7- Aaceu* MKBC2-< NAMIi r ^ ,> DiiiVcft IKE FOllOWfNG M vritt: TH£ MO:-<4£Y: L.^ 7^ 4-Jt- X :=^ t»^^^^ Mn« Wci» lilts'nn CiunfKoy {IirKlad pay INi __£x.No.5118 LANE,D.E. Deposition-\ 9 U Ofd«f M »:> nsk •wcA psnan ts ta ii to paying eacni be(rtv«i its / Dallas 3-31-64 n M Uw (ton MfMii Mr^a. EXnoMl itfmtilioIisK bewj Movd f'^'' >{Z{£i;^^-^"^-^-^'^, loibrmAUOo for tesc quesdocu. Lane Exhibit No. 5118 (Duplicate of original money order receipt given to Jack Ruby) '.963 NOV 94 AM II 17 '^ ^ LANE,D.r,. j;5C.No.51l9 Dallas Lane Exhibit No. 5119 481 ^Jbp /Co V ^o--*-^ .^. #MNi*» Lawrence, Capt. P,¥. Exhibit 1 Lawrence Exhibit No. 1 482 If kft/ujuo /jLd^ / 1/ / / II ^fUfiyUi^^^ .1 fS(,*^A^ X. g - ..^, Lawrence Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 483' \ t V / e ^ *' Lawrence Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 484 <*//cA II 7 r 7^ ; t yty i fy^^ -7^ Lawrence Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 485 /2yuc<^ /^/z^iC'.^Ctts^ '-h- "^ ytynarclk (3 Vh)-237 M. A. Rhoades (3 v;h)-292 J.C. Robinson (3 Vb)-291 I^rade Routo Traffic and Security Assicnnontst Lt, V. F. Soutliard - 128 Sgt, W, A. SimpBon»250 (1) Love Field to Turtls Creek (2) Love ?lcld to Kocidngbird b Hinea Sgt, B. F. Rodf:ors-220 (1) Turtle Creek .',Cedar Sprin£;s to {larvood (2) Hines, In-lustrisil lo Inwcod Rd. Sgt. D. 7. H&rknesQ-260 (1) Main t Field to J!ou£ton & Slffl (2) Industrial & Hinos Sgt, V. C. Caiapbe 11-280 (1) K.!in-non.'ood to Field (2) Motor Pool, Trade ilart Ho-Paridng Detail! (7iOO A.M. Assignnont): Sgt. E. B. ;!c-.;arcl-290 J. T. Griff in-?7? C. R. Hanu.lton-233 T. A. Hutson-281i K.S. Standfield-261 Asslrfnont #1 Cccir :jprinj'3 & —— Asaignncnt /''2 xm AssijjnTncnt y3 (ouv; Cedar Springs & Officer Lrlvfiyay at Lova Drive-ftvy at Love J. Y. Ai;':r.-2:5 0-- aoi-J S:.atue f'-ST Field Statue ( KAST Cedar Sorinj^s k All officers work Codar Swings it >fecid.ngbird V;cst sido Kortb- I^ookingbird bound Storw.ons Ssrv. RA. betveon entrance & Industrial Acf if.tvnont -?! ABSlp nmnt f2 ASB ^p.nr.ont ^'j Officor :cklnsblrd & Issnon officer work 3-4«i Mooklngblrd & X(.l Continental entrance Denton C.H.Earr-hart-2^ (3-. ..) to Stor-ncns >wy - P. W. Britton other man vork V.'ost eido t^'orthbound Stominons Sorv, Rd, betwoon entrano* li Industrial leignton & louood officer work Indust- J."' Mockingbird & rial Exit of Stenmons at Maplo L.B.roilhars;,-269 (jO Northbound Stonrnons Vvy- ot^or nan vork v.'est side Northbound Ste.-nmons Sorv, Rd. bet;icon entrance & Industrial Lensnoi^ t Cotton Work V/eBt side North- KocklriRbird i- Kines Belt KR (atop bound Stecmona Sorv. Sfrvlce Hd. ER oTcrpass) r.d. botucon entrance & industrial leiniRon & Douglas Invood !: nines (unrier Hineo) J. K. C a l.'h<« 11-267 (J.') (Trsr^port officers below) If^-TTton fc OsSt LewB Mockingbird I- Forest w. n. B-irkcr (abcve J.-r vill Pai'.: Rd, 3. E. Vilson trf.r.o-iort) IrxrTion ?.- Turtle iiinas I- Butlar (1) D. 6. Kcrn-2i;5 (car) Croek (3) Hines fi Lofland (2) A. i?. Gris (3) H.i;. toi.-or !rurUe Creok 4 Hall lurtle Creok & Eowen Cedar Springs & Turtle Croek Blvd. ?i f Cdar Sprinpa & Katy US. overpass (atop overpass) . Eardin-25;9 Joii-) Cedar Sprin.oia & Falmount (sbovo car viU transport) F. T. ChariCo-25.2 Cedar Springs & Mapls Motor Pool-Trade r',art Il.K.nif;.ir^-?.o2 (jO J. A. Grec-.nhav Cedar Springs & Olive Kotcr Pool- Trade tort 3.Jone3-2J3 (Ji) G.R. Spears Cec'ar Springs & Harwocd (3) RR Croflsing on In^iiictr-al (Hines) Industi^al l- Hines 0) M.' . (2)- .,. ; (3; V.D. £...<_ ;-L Harwood & McKinnay Motor Pool- Trade Hart V. ?rico-25= (J;) W. A. S.r.lth Harvood & Rossr Motor Pool-Trado Hart G.L. Purr^ 11-277 {'J ) 2. V^f, Speir Har^ood & San Jacinto H. L. Cox Harwood !< Bryan Ico Hcle Hotor Pool-lrado lUirt C.i', Fiei/is-27> (>:) Harvood & live Oak G.H. Hosklns L.>u.ddlc:ton Har«cod & Pacific Motor '<\)ol»Trade Hart C.W. Watt-266 (Jv) S. L. Crcrxhsu Hamood & Sin J. H. ILrkin;: H. A, in;:;on-2.;i (J ) HaTKOOd & Kain Main f, St, Paul ' SSlfi^^^ ' ' K-'in t- Ervay ::. a. Oillert "ain I- Stone rJWs /(.;:^»^^-^ I'ain & Akerd T. n. :::.noon K.J. 'Jlte -l- La WHENCE Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 492 Main & Field -H ftltfrr ^nrl i Ti—'" '-•"'; J.W. Killi!.r:3-l62 (SOL''.') ; R. H. Cciort;'3 Main & Kurphjr M. L. Alton rin.-:?^J J5r^:^>^' "- '^- (J . ) Main & Griffin i J. C, Eor.-c Motor Pool-Trad© JIart £. D. Vcifcrd-lg? (Golc) l| /?,-/; MiK- Main St Poydras I). L.Kcn-ijr .Hotojp-^^ooW&ada-MiTt J.-ii^ i^yloi— 15? -(£olo) Main ft Lamar C. Dyor Main & Austin Motor Po ol^TtmJ e Hart ^'j. H. .-.•-.;. j'on-i:^ (.. Main & Martot i.,/('iatc)'*n »U l.illl...,-. T/ctmo^ Main & Rocord H.A. reiices A. S. Cnrricon K.I in L Houston D.J. !'07. C. ... L5-.;is W. H. DeniTa:^ Houston & E3b V, S. Earrctt J. M. £nith S,L. £aith Sl-n I: RR OvcfpasB J. \\ Foster (both Oj'iicoro atop J. C. Vhite r.?. overpass - one nan on "ast side & one man on V.'tct eide) Ste-nons FrcOT*£y Ser?. lid. OTiiT.^Ai-i; (atop ovorpaisa) « f^J. 2. ::urph7-?71 (JO "Z:? R?. Orerpacs aorocB Stcmons Freovay (Just ?;orthof RLi Street - J. A. Ij:^'-^z.x ono nan on South catwalk 4 K. V. Ero«n ether man on North catvalk) Sts-nors Oyei^xisB at I R-: as trial (3 Vheeler atop Overpass on Sast side) C. E. Shankics-293 (3'') -5- Lawrence Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 44-731 O— 64— vol. XX 33 493 St^^rjtons Sonde* Road ft U.J. Kocan V.S. Wilson (Polioo Reserlra Crowd Control Mslgnnants attaohad) 77 £r. <^<£- /%7^ae/^«- Reapeotfully, H. '1. lunday Deputy Clilef of Polica u " '' ' " ^^" ;^ r^-- \^y 1?-^ 1- x: .^'^ ^\ ^ ^: >^' ' h L, A. i C^ '^i^ V^;; Lawrence Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 494 io. J.'j» sJvir .1- l.-isr i t' jX'Iil'>Jt>«;~3 >fjr iio'-; lo T' ^^^^ A) . \( ^^ '^^^-^V\ C^^ ox^\^ - ^^^^tw'^~'" \^ ,i - «x ^. J ^ . Lawrence Exhibit No, 2 —Continued 495 Novorabor 22, I963' Mr. J. E. Curry, Chief of Folic*. Subjoetl ' Security Detail for . President Kcnneciy. Sin The followiiis is a list of poroonnol from the Tliird ictrol Platoon who v.ill roport to the Central Station Dotail Roaa at 9«30 A.M., Friday, IJoveiibor 22, IQ65, to work Traffic Assignment. PATEOUffiri 1, Culpepper, Godfrey fi. 2. DryK, Ralph T. 3?- 4. — SaiJy-,—iiarTi«-&j Fo'jUis, li^ynond T. 5. Geo, ihoaas £. 6. Gentry, '..'n. F. 7. Hallia, Clias. L. 8. Heath, Ronald Q. 9. Hunter, J. J. u Ua^a^«^' Jnly 15, iy<;4 CJji.i" of i'ollco i\;>',vi-,ltr 22, lv>3 :>ir: ;cfore t;:;: ip-5ivi.!::r-l srafi'Ic .-ii;:::-.;i_i-r.to './ore ;: Ivon t'> cnch r.nn : tol.J officers t':c a.vn- >::ii.»:ac ti::i> of c'--a a:-ir'.val of CI.-o t;;e i'rc;;i.i'critnt Love I'AclcJ, \-'r^rc u-'uiv; arrive: .-;<'. ti-,;* c;--;?ro:-..'.i"::-.to !>..• ni'A-;tx?c of vcliic3c«u in x.'.-ii-3 .-i.-torc-'i -c. I ^Ico awVisc-J t':T:;:i tii^c C.'sicf I^n,v;;in v.-oul.t l^e in a •.-'.lUe i'.i.d U'iL:; tl^;- .;:crr?t JorvicG ,;>crio.'>:4?I, n->:}r";;;i;.T:cl/ ci-. Tji ;«r t.-a ' •loc[.:, .:'., c-n.l cl* 'i-iic ::oic;r- cr...*c n;i.l tlist oil olTiccirn on iici-i, .. i.t i.:i.:>i.l'J Lc rlcrt for ctiis vo;iiclc "!ia ;)ull C.'..f L;;.;/r;ia'a vc -'.c:,: t:;ro.:':i r-.:.; i-^us s*rl l;l.>ck off nil trc:rfic for t:>c ;::,-»i. cu::; i;o.:.-.:c.v'c. 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I C'}.^-o nv'Gv.a ficcc off''C-:i-o t^'-t :i;:fKrvJc;or;i v.-Ofil'.', be nvni l.iblc an ii.cir ;>,-rtici:in.r cro.-) Tit rr.y I t.-.ca tulcl the officers :!i-t ->rir Kl/i.'.ry -iuCi' \;r.5 iiaffic sod '. cr^vJ con;rol and that they aUc.-lvl ;< alert for ctiiy x:i-a n::; v; .o ui;:Jit attca;jt to t^rcw anyt'.nr^ ;«:U a2t::of.;;h it was v.ot a ««»«»—««ii«i»;»i^ III J i»». *ir./ pVr^iOii v,;iO ni.-.iu ;Ji:c:::->t to ti'ir^v/ fii'i >';.;-.:;. or ti at t'ii' liii, ^xij-ty; ;'.-i-'ir.-: ;• ii- »ic>:l-ir alt: j.' ^;ir: to 'tvsiv.'cxj^ «r.;l ti:c for a;?/ «n-,jcj;al r.ctrvi;/, * i/iic.-,:.< cro;*.! tiie i"rct ;:;: t .'. t!i.is wr.a our 'rcaiUcaf c.;va J;-? crcv.l.l Ur i,/v.',;:i ever/ rt;rj,-.'».:t I'.r-c hia puaiEion aiul t:wv it \nfi cur duly to cvc t;;AC t-'^s v,v.& .I^r^c, aici;:it::rxit;j tt> i-iculcini-.c '•> l-# coutdnrc} ?..:• icri-^-utt" 1 t-'ict .nil of t'u: t^^lt'-cjcorc/cl^ ai!;7lo-.otoicyr',i"! of'icoi'G ncet v:i£Ii ^^-c oui;jii:c li'C •'£»;-,v:nMy '^o;-) Tor :;:ociai i;;i.;ruct:c:ii; >to Si:.)crvi:>>ro ,i:i.i ail of c^ic S'^lo t!:cir .:nor u f. ti f^ i ticatii v.'it'» i:utrtictii-i5S iu.'rt fc;:cy vcic to !:..•(.•,> '»l»c c irv.>"i £:x: !'rciil..orit*£5 Cii* an-l o- .cr vc'iicitra in 'ch\'j. MCV.'.C a.ecificAlly !;..>> true lir.;; ti)e oi'i'icors on erc'-t i.Lli? o t '.<' VCD. of the -':o:;ii.'.cnt*fi c;ir to Iv nicrt ior an/ onui:.?i -u in tlx* crowi no t2:n£ U'-cy coiiiti ;i.ivc viic^ir :::> 10 v cycle ;to \: pouicioa tiiOiv:ii'-0-C tlic- I'^tc&lcoul'o v....;i.i:lr; ii' rv.'cccc. ary Jor i!.0 t scuccy* Dolo ;iin;K?rvir;oia v-rc t-.va '.aru!;:(i co.>i(* G O 'i'^'uc asy:i:iiici}tiJ for their »feTi# o r.;\: c i. f;- 1 1 y :3 '.:lv3 it tcd. /"' ,/^, 't'^S.vc t>^^ Cri -^taiii of r'.>licc 'i"r ai' f Ic i^i V j a i on »iu.:nw LAWRENCE Exhibit No. 4 — Continued 498 ^•KT^"'" ' iT" "" - James R. Leavelle Exhibit A — REPORT ON OFFICER'S DUTIES in RT- CARDS TC THii) PRESIDE.\T«S iJURDSR J. n. IE,\YE,LLS. - ^^736 ) lly partners I reported for v.-ork at 7:00 am on rViday Uovc^bor 22, 1963. I noncally vrork with, Dotootivas E. R. iiock and 0.' R. Boyce, woro both off duty. ' At 10:00 ara C, "VT. Erovm ropcartod in for duty. V/e got tocether to arrest a nesro hljaokor, Calvin fiugono J"'olcon, V;o located hia at 12 «15 pa> 2lt3l Ellis Stroot, and returned to our office and placed hira in jail at 12:145 pa. 1 '•''as told by Lt, Wells that the President had been sh ot and for us to report to Eln and Houston Streets, ., On our arrival I v.-ent directly to the ftont of the Texas School 2ook Depositor:.', Itll I'-lta street, • I net Inspector Savo^er v*io told me thnt the build- ing v/as secure and that it was being searched. Inspector Sayiyer also told bo all v/itnesses were being taken to the Sheriff's Office for interrogation, Tne uniform officers came up with a v^hite nan named l^illian Sharp of 3U39 Detonta, T/ho the officers said had been up in the buildirg across the street from the book depository without a good excuse.. I took charge of this man and escorted him to the Sheriff's Office, v/hero I placed him with other vd-tnosses,. Several 2urglary and Theft Bureau detectives came in and volunteered thei? services for interrogation, I .told them if they would work vdth the Sheriff's ''• ^utios, questioning the v/itnesses, I would return to the scene of the shooting to assist in the search* Just as I reached lill'^lm, the scene of the shooting of the ^resident, a call came out on the police radio of a shooting of a police officer in the liOO HLk. of East lOth Street in Cak CLiff. I returned to the Sheriff's Office and ' called my office and %alkQi with -H, Wells v;ho said there was no one covering the officer shooting, I told hla I would make it, I borrovred a car from jI)et,°A. L. Edwards who was questioning a ^vitness in the sheriff's office and prooeodod to Oak Cliff. . _ . . " Leavelle Exhibit A 499 PoJPOI^ ON OFFICER'S DUTES EJ Kl^GARDS TO OFFICER TIPPIT'S LT7?J)2R J. R. LSA.VSLLE-.j{736 On ny arrival in trio IiOO Mlk. of 2. 10th Stroct I talked with Cpt. Bud O-.vong^ jinJ OjTicor J. ^f^f_oo. At the samo tiao a call cane out that a pereon rittinc the dcccription of tho cuspoct v/as scon cnterins tho Texas Thoatro on West Jefrerson. I at-tcnpted to roach tho Texas Theatre in the 200 ELk, of '.^ost *'efforsoa but v/as unable to do so becauso of tho tralTic, Officor *'oo had given ne tho nane o'' a T;o.-3.*n who >7as an eyewitness to the shooting. Her naao v/as Helen liarldirj2 of 52G E. pth Street, a v/aitross at the Eat well CaTo on ilain Street, Also that tho nanaser of the -used car lot, ^01 E, Jefferson, had heard tho chcotins and seen the jsuspect runnin.^ froQ the scene. Officer Poo also told no Eoneono had picked up two empty ,38 hulls frca the street and given thea to hia, but ho did not know who it was, t, Aftor the arrest of Osr/ald at tlic Texas Theatre i was told over tho police radio that Squad 91 had tho witness to tfco shooting and wao onroute to the city- hall • I then returned to the city hall and my office, I assisted other officers in taking affidavits an:i answering the telephone. I took affidavits fron Charles Douglas Givins and Billy Nolan Lovelady, I was thon directed by Captain Fritz to locate the v/oioan witness to Tippit's murder and take h-.-r to the shovaip room to view Lee Oswald in a lineup, I found Helen i^arldiara in the Police Enorgency Rooa with Det, i*, C, Graves, Sho was suffering froa shock. As -soon as she was able, I took her to the shoxvup roca and called Captain Fritz t^o had Oswald brought do*>m and placed in a lineup. At k J35 pa, Noverabar 22, I963 Helen ilarldiam identified Oswald as the {12 nan • in a li>aan lineup as the zaan who had shot Officer Tippit. Also present was Qiief Curty, Captain Fritz and Dot. L. C. Graves. There may have been others in tho room, I don 't recall. Leiavelle Exhibit A —Continued 500 J. R. Lcavcllo-- ^j 2 Cot. L. C, GravQS and I then took Helen Markh.-m to hrr home in Oak Cliff, Te stopped at tho used car lot, ?01 B. Joffcr£on,T/hcro v/o talked v/ith tho nanagor, 7cd Oallov/ay, v/ho told no ho had oocn +hQ cuspcct running fron tho sccno •n.'ith a con in his hind and hov; he was dressed —^with dark trousers, shirt lisht color, Jaokot and a T ehii*t| thnt tha shirt and J;iclcot ivoro opon and ho oould coo tho T shirt,, A colored pcrter, San Guinyard, of V/axahachie, Texas said ho olso caw the suspect and could identify hia. I also talked with another cnployeo of tho lot, Doaingo Benavidos, $09 E. •'effercon, who said ha wont to the sceno of tho shooting and picked up two ccrpty hulls and gave them to Officer Poc, IVe then returned to our office where Captain rritz told me to call the above people to coma dovm for a lineup, I called ^^'r, Callcavay fiho caiao dovm and brought Sam Guinyard v/ith hin, We wont directly to the showup room. 75iile \Taiting for \ tho shoT/up I took an affidavit frota both of tho above nen. At 6:30 pm Oswald vras brought dov-Ti, whore ho was identified by both Calloway and Guinyard ae tho ooBiG cipn thoy hnd seen running from the sceno of Officer Tippit's kill ing with & gun in his hand. He was identified as //2 nan in a l;-aan lineup, ilr, Callov/ay and Guinyard woro then taken up to the crime lab on tho Iith ' .floor whore Captain Doughty shqwod us a jacket that was found along the route taken by tho suspect from the sccno of tho Tir<|pit shooting, Thoy identified it as tho saao one or ono Just like .the one v/orn by the suspect, I returned to tho i^oaicida Office where -I^ worked until lOO am Saturday ffioming, I vrant home and returned at 8:00 am Saturday, Kovecibor' 23> 1963, Curing tho day I did general office work and took two moro affidavits: ono from R, S, Truly, suparvisor at the Texas School Book Dopository, lill Elm Street and another employoo of this business, Urs, R. A, Keid, I also took an affidavit from j T/, >;, Scoggins, a cab driver 1:^0 was near the sceno of the Tipplt shooting and LEiA.vELLE Exhibit A — Continued 501 J. R. Lcavoilo-Paeo 3 witnosscd aaao. At 2;1^ pa another shc7."up r.'z.z held v.hsro CcoQzLnz identified ^sv;ald as tho sxrM ho caw shoot Crricer Tippit, Also at thio same shoTwp wac williaa V'ajnc "haley, another cab driver, v/ho I drcfvo OavTald fTca the Grejhound Bus dopot to tho 500 SLk, of Worth SDckloy. ilo -.'f alco identified Oav/ald as the i'^ nan in a ii-3ian lineup. Others in tho linaup vera : 11 John Tnuzroan Hora, #2 David Knapp, j^'3 Oavrald, #li. Daniel Lujoa, I worked until 9 :00 pa this date and was told to ret\im about 8 130 aa tho noxt day, JJunday Hovcabor 2li, lp63 by Captain Frits, Ho said v;o vrould trancTor Oswald about 10 :00 oa* Leavelle Exhibit A—Continued 502 , nSPOHT OK CFPXCES'S D-TIHn Vi HFLKPJDS 70 CT.WALD'C DliVTII J.. R. L 'ATCLLr: - r/736 I arrived Sunday nomins, Hovonber 2h, I963 about 8:00 aa, '•'•o rccoivod word fron 'Ar, i'orry, .'Security Orficor of tho Ctatlcr-Milton thnt they had a aan check in r^o onid he reprosentod a raunition ccppany o-t of Callfcrnia, I v.'ont to thci hotol in coapany with Dot. C. '^K ^hority and iir, C, '.'.•, DroTm, >-Q talked vfith iiobort v;. ?arkfcr, 51;h i^Jorth Cyproso, ^'rimso, California, \?o satisfied oursolvoc ho was 0. K, and rctumod to tho offico. At 0'3O am I was instructed, along with T'ot. L, C, Craves and Dot, C, ;«', Dhoi'i-iy to ^o up in the jail and get i^o Os-.vald, I -/.-ent to his cell and put tho handcuff on hia r/itu his hands in front of h±n, ?ro rotumr-d to Captain iritz's ofi'ice •.vhere Captain Fritz, ITr. Sorrolls and Mr, Thonas i^lly of the Secret Service questioned Ocvald, Also in the rooa C, Graves, ^, N, Bhority and Inspector ^Jv/orq Detectives L, ^, ~ontgoacry, L. Holsioo of tho i'ost Office Dopartnont and aysclf i>hortly after 11:00 aia i^o bocan the transfer. Chief Curry had cone to Captain Fritz's offico, * had cade a suggostion earlier to double cross tho ;' procs and take Oswald out on tho first floor via tho ^ain Street doorp loavinj; tl'.o press v/aiting in the basement and on Comaorca Street, Also it was suggested to go out tho Ilain T-trcet rarap and west on iJain Street, .' Tiioso suggestions wore turned do;vn by Chief Curry v;ho stated that we had batter r,o ahead v;ith tho transfer as "planned, since ho had given his word on it. Approximately 11:15 aa we left the third floor office with Os-.vald handcxiffed to ny left ara with Dot, i>, C. Craves holdin.i to Os^vald'c loft ara, preceded to tho jail elevator by Captain Fritz, Lt, Snain, Detective ^* D, Wontsooery, "O reached the bascaent Jail office v/ith officers in front we headed to tho autoaobile ^1Jaap just outside tho jail offico door. ^ • V7o ' hesitated just insido the jail door^ Leavelle Exhibit A— Continued 503 FDoos ta«v. 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 11/2 5/63 Doto Dotcctivo J, R. LIlAVi;LL."r, , 7703 Rilla Aveirac, Dall?.s, Toxzis, Kcnicide end F,obbory E-jrocu, J}z.11c.g Police I^epnrtaent, cdvised r.bout 11:15 a.m., Ilovcni'ccr 24, 1S33, L3;Z ILini^IY- 037:ALD '.-.•.as trJ:cn frcn the Eonicicc end r.obbery Eurceu, i:>r.lln.s Polico Dcpartnont , Iccr.tcd or. tho third ilooi- of th-" City n-11 DuildiaiT, for the purrrcc^^ o2 tr-.::3ir.crt:.:,:,' to the i'.alles County Jail. ;-,i;r. CZ'.:/:.ZS.j T;as h.^ndcujlfcd thcroaxter handcuffed to the left en*/, v/as hr.nd of '.-""'"ZZj'Z, Lr.:l'~LI'3 stated' th:-.t Detective .j. C, GaA-"":". had hold of the left ara of 0S',:AI-3. lie .st:-.-;cd t;-,r.i Cr.ptain .J. Tr. j?.l'.TZ, I-Io;nicide and r.ob'oci'y ivrcavi, and "-icatcnant ?.. 3. ST/AIN, E'arglary and Theft L.'.r'- .'a, proceeded' in front of them, and L. J), :,:CI"TC-0:.:r;ilY Honicide and , • ' P-obbcry r-.ireau brought up the rear. All of the above ncntio:-.-'^. individuals proceeded fron the third floor by o__ : che jail clovator to the jail office located in t: ':;,ccnent of the City Eall Duilding., : I'orr.icice and P.obbery detectives E. E. PP^CK and C. xT. PPOrPT:; had previously departed for the purpose of getting the transportation cars into position. Detective LPAirSLLH and GFJIVHS after arriving ' in the jail office hesitated at the door leading freni the jail office into the outside corridor until they obtained an all-clear signal from Captain PP.IT3 v/ho had proceeded into the corridor ahead of them.. LPAvTlLI-^ stated that thereafter, he and GPjV>'Z3, with OSV/jlLD betv.'cen thcr.-i as previously described, proceeded from tho jail office into the corridor loading out into the undir-round parking area. It T.as noted in the corridor that uniform officers were lined up alonrj the wall, and that ncvs media •.vere gathered on the auto ramp to the left and front of LPAVZLLI-l and tho escorting officers. The car in which C3'.";\1D v;as to be transported was on the ranp and v.-as backing up to the position where OSV/ALD could get in. Captain PP.ITZ was in tho lead and was stop-cd at tho edge of the rarnp waiting to get into the front scat of the car. C-PA'^/'ES and LPA''3I-LS stopped momentarily for tho car to back up. . V.'hcn the buc.per of the car got even with the right side of LPA'.TLLi;, jag:: P.UBY darted froa the crowd of news media about six feet av/ay and had. gun in hand. RUBY shot' 03'."AL3 at a distance of approxinatoly fifteen inches av/ay. of r>-:;n^B, r^x r.r^ File # PL 44-1639 by Specie! A£cnt JAr.^S XT. P.OO"H077T r /wtht, ^^.^ dickered 11/24/63 This documont eontalna nal-.hcr roCxcTRO "da'.lons "<>' '-* ,:'',.: ^ ;.^^ijk...iv - :. . - . :t -..-.- . . . . ' . - .li ;"„ y..rac,ncy;itonajtocon.cM.c.c6..M_ob,dia,r.bux,dj,u_uEx.No.5088 LEAVELLE, J.R. Deposition_"" n Dallas 3-25-64 Leavelle Exhibit No. 5088 504 2 SL 44-'1639 LEAVELLE stated that whan he saw RUBY dart at OSY/ALD, he jerked on OSTfALD's handcuff at approximately the exact time of the shot and pushed RUBY back with his hand on OSWALD'S left shoulder. LEAVELLE stated that GRAVES at the same time grabbed RUBY's .hand and took the gun away from him. LEAVELLE Exhibit No. 5088 —Continued) 505 FEDERAL EUI^iiAU C:- II-^VESTIGATION Dcc^.,b-.r 11, 1S6: Dcto S'^ -; :,c DL kh -162)9 o hi-oackii-:.5 nir/y?--" -.utcrialized. Ho Ir-ici aean RITBY on the ctrcct occasionally buu it ;:ac only a ccisual naoting and notal-s of Irnoortancc \:zs evi^r di-c;:t3:i?.3U£.l every tir/to they have net. R'jaY haa invited hin to his plr:ice for froti dlniicrs but he hac; ncvor accepted. J-Ie has n-r'v-r \\-orkvjd for RTJEY or does ho knov; of any other police officer x^'ho has. Ho estinated th'i.t at th<; tino he arrived in tho bciSvir.cnt with OSV/ALD there wore about I50 people. In tho bascr-ont^, this including officers and new;2v;ien Hs did not rocosnizo . a.,;;;/on5 in the bas^rient other th^n police officers v^ith tho cxcop::ion of tho before-mentioned facts about RUBY„ Ej und^srstood that tho uniforn division had cleared tho baso;^;-nt of all uneu'Ghoriaod -oorEonncl boforo thoy started transferring OSWALD, na did aiilc Captain FRITZ if the car to bo used in transferring OSVJALD would be directly in front of th3 sr.iail hallway lo;-^.aing f;-ori tho jail office . Captain FRr:;-Z said it would bo. Ha did not iciow or see any police officer identify any individual in the basenent as ho v.-as no^ present when these individuals v;ore aduittsd to the basa:nont. Ha- never sav; RuBY botwo-en Kovo::.bor 22 and 24, 1963^ in fc;Ct he believes that th-o last tine he sf.x-i PJJBY was in October and this Vi?is xchile he wais driving by RUBY'S Car-ousel Club, and RUBY was Just going in. Ke docs not know of any association bstvjeen OSWALD and RGBY. Ko wa^. never present Vihile OSV.-ALD was being int;-:.rvioii'od nor f.-jas h^- prc-sent v;hilc RUBY •was being interviev."ed by the Dallas Polica officers. He v;as instructed, on Noveir:bar 25* 1963^. to assist in the transfer of RUBY to the Dallas County Jail. On their v;'c..y d-own in tho Jail elevator ho said to RUBY, "JACK, in all the years I've Ic.ovjn ycu, you'v?;' never deliboxv.tcly caused any police officer any trouble that I k?iOW of and you didn't do us any favor \;aon you shot OSWALD. You've really put the pressure c: us.'' RUBY . replied, "That's the last thing in the vjorld i wanted to do, I Just vjanted to be a danned hero and all I've done is foul things up." —Continued Leavelle Exhibit No. 5089 507 . IIEPC«T ON OFFICER'S D'.Ti::'. I'J REGWinS TO anVALD'C TicXtn J,. R. L AVP.LLK - f/736 I arrived Sunday momlne, Movomber 2ii, 1^63 about 81OO am. •'•'0 rocolvad word from ;-r. i'orry, Security orfioor of tho ytatlfii^-Hilton thnt they had a nan checle in *ho said h« roprosentod a raunition conpany o-t of CallTcrnla, I wont to tho hotel in company with Dot, C, i«» 4iority and :^'r, C. '', Drown, e talked with Kobort V, barker, 51U i'^orth Cypreso, ^rango, CallTomia, V7e oatiafied ourselves he was 0» K, and rotumod to tho offlco. At 9«30 am I was inatxnictGd, alonf; with ict. L. C. Craves ard Dot, C, :j, Kiority to go up in the jail and cot •k;o ^euaXd, I Aent to hie cell and put the handcuff on him with bis hands in front of him. TTe returned to Captain iritz's office whore Captain Fritz, Ur, Sorrollo and Mr, Thomas '^Uy of the Secret Service questioned Oswald. Also in the roca were Detoctivos L, ^, Montgomery, L. C, Graves, C, li, Dhority and Inspector Holaoa of tho i'ost Office Dopartraont and a.vself i^hortly after lliOO am i^a becan tiM transfer. Chief Currj- had cone to CapVain Kirltz's office. * had made a cut;£;ostion earlier to double cross the proaa and take Oswald out on the first floor via the -^ain Ctroot door, leaving ttio press waiting in tho basement and on Ccnii.. rce T.tre t. Also it was Buggestod to go out tho f^.-iir; ..trcfit rc-Tip and west on iJain Street, Tl.eso su^ijestions wore turned do^vn by Chiol" Curry v.ho stated that we had bettor go ahead with tho transfer as planned, since no had given his word on it. Approximately llil5 am we left tho third floor office with Oswald handcuffed to ny left arm with Dot, i*, C, Graves holdinr; to Oj-ztaXd'e left ana, preceded to the Jail elevator by Captain Frttz, Lt, Swain, Detcctivo ^, D, i^ontgoaery, '••e reached the basonent Jail office with officers in front we hoadod to the autoaobile rastp just outside the Jail office door, Ve hoeitatod Just inside the Jail door, Le^avelle Exhibit No. 5090 508 , J, R. Xkhen out of the masa of huminity comp sod of all the news media, which had ourgod forward to within aix or soven feit of us, came th6 figure of a nan with a Kun in hand. He took two quick steps nnd double actioned a ,38 roVolver point blank at Oswald, X jerked back on '-'swald, at the aano tirao roaching out and catching Jack Rrby on the left shoulder, shovlnc back and down on hiw, bringing a.vself between Ruby and Oswald, I could seo Dot. Gravoa had Ruby's evn hand and gun in his hands, 1 turned my attention to ^cwald and with the help of ^ot, Combost we took Oswald back into the jail office and ld.d him down, ^ndcuffs ware reaoved and the city hall doctor, ^r, "iiebertlorf vrao summoned, Vie also called 'Ileal anbulonce, Oswald was placed in tho jxnbulance and ruEhed to Parkland *^spital. In tho ambulance besides the crew was Dr. ^deberdorf. Cot. L. C, Graves, Det, C. N, i^orlty and myoolf He was rushed to surgery where he expired at li07 pm# November 2li, 1963, pronounced by Dr, Tom Shires, Judge f'ierce ^k: Bride was summoned, I gave hia all the information needed to request an autopsy, T^on all necessary reports wero made, I returned to the oity hall where •£ made tho offense report on l>ee Harvey Oswald, • Leavelle Exhibit No. 5090 — Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 34 509 Lee (Ivan) Exhibit A Lee (Ivan) Exhibit B 510 '.(afci-ifitfi'.i^r /s, /^^ /: ,X' >- ^d< / .^ / ^^ jl n n im L.] l II . l .n i LtW V.T.Lee -Exhibit #1 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 1 511 7 /> / .,.^../... ^. ,^.-.^ _ ,^.-c \ •r^ ^^ X- .^^ / 7 /". ^^ , A- y ^ >' :-.'-( ^L- /^ ^, i, ,^L_, ^^ - '_. ^^ .^ y ..£-C /v 7 - L f'- (^^ c^i^ <-.- '- ) - "-" ,:^ J/ "yij-r.- / -^^A.-. ( -^ - g' , •.: -.- - --^ r^l -'^-.'' V.T.Lee / r ^ Exhibit #2 ^'V:i-^ Ca .r u >_^ t^_, -* — Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 2 512 ^^7C^..X y y / i. /^ .:-<>' ^^v ''; /^ - ^-.-^, y^.^..^ . ^^ c c V-<---£ V.T.Lee Exhibit #2 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 2 — Cooitinued 513 799 BROADWAY NEW YORK 3. N. Y. ORe«oo 4.8295 • llay 29, 1963 ' 1;9"'7 L/C "ia^azine Street j ":,v.- :t loans ^ Louisiana L'C?.r 1*^16 nd: ; Thanlc you for your prompt reply. Enclosed are your uard and receipt, along I v/ith our thanks and welcome. Your interest in helping to form an FPCC Chapter in '^'"'ew Orleans is grateiflully raceived, I shall try to give you some basic information now -so that you may have a better picture of what this entails. For one thing, I- an enclosing a copy of our Constitution and By-LaiTs for all Chapters and Student Councils, You will note that there is considerable autonomy for an organization our size. Vie try and let all Chapters operate according to the local requirements. Naturally, there a minimul regulations which must be met, / All Chapters can receive literature in bulk at a discounted rate and resell at the retail price and use the proceeds for further Chapter activities,'^ Credit is extended and payment is not required vrith the order. We do expect payment within a , reasonable period so that we may continue our end of the operation. It w.Tuld be hard to concieve of a chapter vath as few members as seem to exist in the \'ew Orleans area, I have just gone through our files and find that Lousiana seems somewhat restricted for Fair Play activities. However, with vj-hat is there perhaps you could build a larger group if a fe\T people would undertake the disciplined rfisponsibility-of concrete organizational work, Vfe certainly are not at all adverse to a very small Chapter but certainly would expect that thero would be at least twice the amount needed to conduct a le^al executive board for the Chapter, Should this be reasonable, we could readily issue a charter for "" *" I V.T. Lee Exhibit 3 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 3 514 799 BROADWAY NEW YORK 3. N. Y. ORcgon 48295 a "ew -'rlRans Chapter of FPCG. In fact, we vfould be very, very pleased to see this take place and -would like to do everything possible to assist in bringing it about. 7fe feel that the south-east is a very difficult area to work because of our lack of contacts. Our only southeastern Chapter right now is that in Tar.ipa, Florida which I originally organized before coming up to work in the National Office, I for one am convinced of the possibility of such an enterprise but know from experience that it is quite a- problem and requires some sacrifice on the j>art of those involved. You must realize that you will come under tremendous pressures with any attempt to do FPCG work in that area and that you vdll not be able to operate in the manner which is cinventional here in the north-east. Even most of our big city Chapters have been forced to abandon the idea of operating an office in public. The national office here in New York is the only one in the country' today and the' Hew York City Chapter uses our office too so it is the only Chapter with an office. Most Chapters have dis- covered that it is easier to operate semi-private ly out of a home and maintain a P.O. Box for all mailings and public notices. ^(A P.O. Box is a must for any Chapter in the organization to guarnatee the continued contact with the national even if an individiaial should move or drop out.)) '7e do have a serious and often violent opposition and this proceedure helps prevent many unnecessary incidents which frighten av/ay prospective supporters. I definitely would not recommend an office, at least not one that will be easily identifyable to the lunatic fringe in your community. Certainly, I would not recommend that you engage in one at the very beginning but wait and see how you can operate in the community through several public experiences, Vie vdJLl be able to give you some assistence from here, but not much. It is up to the local Chapters t o_handle thoir ctto affairs. You^shaou ld have at least access "" -,^-~ V.T. Lee Exhibit 3 ' Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 515 0fOR|: tV 799 BROADWAY NEW YORK 3. N. Y. ORegon 4.829> to a mimeo machine to prepare public material if you are going to operate, A fc^ood typeivritiE is essential and above all pecple that will carry out the million and one mechanical functions necessary to make it a going operation, V Note: when you contact people by mail we recommend that only first class be used and that no full name go on the return address on the outside of the envelope, J • You will notice how we work our's here on the national level. Many people will re- spond better with this type of protection against nutty neighbors and over curious postmen* These may sound like small things to you, but I can assure you that we havei gone through thi a thousand and more time the length and breadth of the country and have learned a great deal over the last three years through some bitter experience. Naturally, I would like to communicate with you a great deal more concerning yourself so that we can get to know you and possibly be of some assistence to you as we get more information, 17e hope to hear from you very soon in this regard and are looking forward to a good ^TO^king relationship for the future. Please fell free to discuss this matter quite thoroughly ivith me. Fraternally, V. T, Lee, National iUrector. ~ V. T. Lee Exhibit 3 *" Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 516 o 799 BIOAOWAY NIW YOUC S^ R Y. 1^21,29$^ * Lse H. Oswald U907 I/o Uasazine St. Now Or loans. La. » D»ar ft>idndt ailing pXite azKl not rinding one oan only oonolods that •ithar it «a« pollMi soTM tias ago whan nail was returned to as or that your sabsoripftion has long sinoe expired* In anjr evect^ Ifo are enclosing a renewal forn and a oopgr of our oorraai literature oatalog for 70U to catoh up with* Ve hope to hear from 70a sooa so that we m^y again have /our naae aaongst those who contAnue to sqpport tbi •XTorts of our Couaittee* Fjratemalljr, National Diroctor "v. T. Lee ExhiMt #3A 1 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 3-A 517 ;^^. r r ''-7 '^-//.i^-'!^; ^--jj? -'f" / / ..;^i>d; C^ c ^ - -y /" X ^^^ "" V.T, Lee Exhibit #4 Lee (Vincent T.) EJxhibit No. 4 518 r -r2_^-v v-"(. K < < 3 Z'' .'1 -iW- . \^^. C' /- cW-- ''^' y '"'^^ -^-- A- :2^ r ^^r ^ ''O .^^y^.^^c/' 7--^-^'^--;--^ ^/^ rrr >nv' ^., ./;.- :: r / ^ Y^.^^.-r-iJ^ ->^'S~7^0 ^yc ^.^^' yn<^'^^uc'' C. :^^'^->-V ^OJ^, / ^ / '/-7.x- -^ ^ /:r >' '^-^ - >^' j^y^y -^^ ,/-'-- (^ ../ 'w //' ^A ^^'-^-'V/V- P-;?^ ,^J. ...A /7 /^ ZZi V.T.Lee "Exhibit #4 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 519 < -r^'O' v-^^ 4 y*^ vy ^- ij^ / kIj c<- <--7 .. <^.:'> ^ ; EZZTZ ZZZli V.T.Lee Exhibit #4 Lee (Vincent T.) —Continued Exhibit No. 4 520 r .//, J- ^S y -r—- -.,- <-'-c C^U ^^ —7 — --' <.'^~-'_/ -<>- ;./ .2^ ^ ^^ ^'-^ ^//|^- / -/-T. <-"•-' ;V6' ^< CrJ^--^ '''-^-' ''-—7 •^'"'--'^'"^^ _ V.T.Lee Exhibit #4 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 521 A ,!:;^ss:fSf:^l!S5^3f^s*^ssKK V .L£ ' %^ni-^K\ MZ.Z -^„ >* - , -' Free Liferaiure, Lectures I t i' h V.T. Lee Exhibit #4 -j A . .iiiYOWE WELCO[\^E! 1 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 4 —Continued 522 L. To: The t'STFTTIatr^^ Cuba Committee • New Orleans, La. r I I wish to join the Committee. Enclosed is my Initiation Fee of $1.00 and dues are $1.00 a month. / / I cannot participate as an active member of the Committee, but wish to become a subscriber to mailings. Enclosed find $5.00 for one year. / / I would like to have a more active part in supporting the cause of FPCC. Enclosed Is my contribution for ,. Name Address City _Zone State Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 4 —Gontinued 523 ^ MiiMiiTiMiiiiMiniiiafiiiimi -. ./y '" ^G-zj^jr: ^.^tc^s/ .22: ,^ • - V _ .u. err. '--•'-i^'; y) / - ' y^ fill ' I- - ii' I iii"ii3 • ' • _ V.T.Lee Exhibit #5 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 5 524 . . _«>e-ryV6'(-6rJ^M-- r^---'^- . C-y .'_ -- . / rrh /"/ "' c-r..:^c? -»-> — ^// > ^t ^' /^yj^ i^t^ a--':^'-l' 2^-f'--f: '^.. r t. ^, -. ':^r .V "»-< ^ .^;ir<>-/^ / /./ .^ -,. - ...[. /< - '*- '--/ '-'-l2-/^ ^.; .^/^Y ^•/.-'' ^ x' :X .y >' /:2i^^-^^ '^'^.vc^ .3rr rV V.T.Lee Exhibit #5 ^:^. Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 5 —Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 35 525 ' :^ V.T. Lee ExMbit #6 St-^'<9^- '^Lyi ^1. 't- •''T^-w> ^i*' v> ?) '-v ,^c>^ t^>€^ C^ -^^-^-r- f.^i'-'- ~<^ ,..^ X 7^/./ 0^ Le^; (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 6 526 PamphletC ase \ Sentence Given] Lee Oswald, 23, 4907 Magazine,) Monday was sentenced to pay a| fine of $10 or serve 10 days in! jail on a charge of disturbing the' peace by creating a scene. j Oswald was arrested by First] District police at 4:15 p. m. FVi-j day in the 700 block of Canalj while he was reportedly distribut-j ing pamphlets asking for a "Fair Play for Cuba." f Police were called to the scene ^when three Cubans reportedly [isought to stop Oswald. Municipal chai^geS against the Cubans for tUsturbing the peace were dropped ^. the coutL-jjC^ i>IUJbx Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 6 —Continued 627 4 np i.t..-. Dfstwct H.4843^3 AFFIDAVIT r'».i.l T- re- UESK boKGEANT :a.e of Louisiana, City of New Orleans, Parish of Orleans -»S<.corid- 3IUXICIPAL COrRT. SECTION. THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS, LA. i^ersonally appeared before me, the undersigned versus Lfie H« Cr>'.,ALD, tu-., 6(^0 23 Ir-^O'.' i-j\-:a3ire fc,, KO, Ia» Judf-e of the ^'CCOnd Municipal Court of *- • the City of New Orleans, duly commissioned and sworn. 3. 'JpIro i., flsai;Ar«D£Z, ..:;, ac© 47 51';/ Aclcle St., Apt« E, lJO,Ia» Lt. Va, Galliot 4. ... age 18 CR!i2, V-.I, Patri, /« "llson . -zant -t., Apt* C, UO, La. Patn* F* Hayv^ard l.-.t Oiut. a\in;c been duly sworn, doth depose and say: :. '•^''^y the ^^ day of August 1963 at about ^ 700 Blk. Garni St. ^, , , M., on Street, between Streets, within the jurisdiction of this Court, one ;« Osv/ald, Carlos J, Brifrjlor, Colso l-U ilernacdaa atid ^ii£ue^ li, Cru:: • « and there wilfully violate Ordinance Nw.-^' *"-''' Section42«»fc2 relative to •ci. r- the .coaco by Crcat-£.vi a Lcc.ne,,* ,1 peace and dignity of the City of New Orleans. ^^ // —<^j5— C'«-r '-.-^J-^;*-:^^^ '"^- '-" c>^ '^^^^"^ -•*»ai«S4»*iT.-«*a'i«*i»<- V.T. Lee Exhibit #7 ' C>tM^ } Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 7 529 ^.^i^£e^^t^ c.--^^ o-Z^ 'n^^ ^^ Jy^^z^ o-^ ^tAy-ru^/^ ^ ^i^2-y C^-.iJt^i N,ll. Lee Exhibit #7 Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 7 — Oontinued 530 — \P 17 ..Gey ^ ;,_\/' \ CORREO AEREO / „ V.T. Lee ;>>y y/:;v^^x Exhibit #7 /^.:>^ isv^^S^'^j^ "^SS^ ^^^ ^^^ \^ \^ \^ >5^^^^^ >j^x \^ Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 7 —Oontinuied hf^* ir::£x^«v^^-^ /^ ~ ^'' ^^/5^ CHANCE OF ADDRESS NOTICE TO ///^v Yo, CORRESPONDENTS POD rerm 3S73 — ? \M..- iV. T.Lee <^:xhibit I.«,l.l« iil*( sai #8 A My Lee (Vincent T. ) Exhibit No. 8-A [ NAMg /^ PRINT Ol '/ ^ /<^.5;v.. TEIEPHONENO: 'M*^ HOUSE NO. AND STREET, APT. NO.; OR BOX OR R. D. NO. [\n core ofj J- ^7/' CITY, ZONE, AND STATE />^XX/£. HOUSE NO. a'nD STREET, APT, N<^.,- OR BOX OR R. D. NO. {\n can ol) CITY, ZONE, AND STATE /vec-,) {P/^/ry^An^, y.A/, EfFEOIVE DATE SIGN HER > e»s— 1«— 7 'fc e ^tpti Hi Jt/ort JST/^-r f<:>^'^ *"^ Lee (Vincent T. ) Exhibit No. 8-A —Continued 531 1 p^r/ s ^^^ i CHANCE OF ADDIESS NOTICE TO COmiESrONDENTS POD FMm 9SM MAYlin {-ExhiUt #B B i P- Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 8-B THEPHOWe NO. fSE NO, AND STRf ET, APT, NO.; OB BOX OR R, D. NO. {\n cor« o/J' . ZONE. AND StATf ^^ >E NO. AND STREET, APT. NO.j OH BOX 0« «. NO. (h. cof . ZONE, AND STATE I [SIGN HE« |> :^r EFftCTlVE DATE B^ V.T. Lee Exhibit #8 B ~" Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 8-B —Continued [ t^_%l .^^;^^ ^'vii'/A/'^^-^y CHANOE OF AOOIEtt NOTICE TO CO»ESPONDiNTI " .^l- ^ /. L K-^i' OB ra>m >17* V.T. L*e A.'.y. -Exhibit #8 C Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 8-C '' ^n/_ PBINTORJYPE i 1 E NO, AND STREET, APT. NO., OR BOX OR R. D. NO. [In cw» &I) CITY. ZONE, AND STATH , /-^^< . NO,,- OR BOX f h:h| ,'l.y f.xzs~ ary.zoVie, AND STATE [sign her ^ /' / Tier/ / ^-^ . /.>2^/^f^^/^-//^ ^-^ I i Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 8-C —Continued 532 7?^ "'"!^'')'' '!" J I . I , , / l ' , - .<^TJ':6'-> 7^c; V.T.Lee vJj Exhibit #^ <9-^ &# A^, ^. Lee (Vincent T.) Exhibit No. 9 DALLAS POL IC \. 54018 23 63 11 ^ ;\ ihrpv Lewis E>diibit 1 Lewis (Aubrey L.) Exhibit No. 1 533 . . FD-3 02 t?.oy. 3-3-5 0) FEDERAL SURcAU 0." iNVESTIGATIOI^J » Da'iQ 1/22/54 L. J. LEWIS, 7515 Hunia, Pleasant Grove, Texas, advised he- is presently self-eraoloyed as a wholesale car dealer. LEWIS advised.. that, on the afternoon of KoveiT.bex'..2 2, 1353, he was on the used car lot of Johnny Reynolds Used Cars together with KA7;CLD RUSSELL and PAT PATTERSON, during which time they heard approxir.ately three or four gun shots coming from .the..,vi.cln.ity of Tenth. a:~id ..Patt on Avenue, Dallas, Texas. Approximately one minute later he observed a white male, approximately thirty j/ears of a'^e, running -south on Patton Avenue, carrying either'-^^'ir "'automatic pis'col or a revolver in his hands, and while running was either attempting to reload same or conceal the weapon in his belt line. Upon' reaching. the. intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas, the individual then proceeded west on Jefferson, at which- time LEWIS advised he went into the office of Johnny Reynolds Used Cars and called the Dallas Police Department to advise them of the fact that the shooting had just occurred just north of the intersection of Jefferson and Patton Avanue c'vised PAT PATTERSON and WARREN REYNOLDS attempted .LEVJIS to folic-.-.- and to the best of his knowledge, HAROLD -jhe .ind::-vidual, RUSSE'' had gone in the direction of Tenth and Patton Avenue to ' c£-.- -.hat had happened. LEV7IS advised he later was informed thw .i.s uniform 'police officer had been shot at the inter- section, of ?. tton and Tenth Street in Dallas, and that in all probability the individual they had seen- running south, on. Patton .'.venue with a gun in his possession was the individual responsible for same LEWIS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans PD No. 112723, dated August , 1963, at which time *3 Kr» LEWIS advised due to the distance from which he observed the individual he would hesitate to state whether the individual was identical with OSWALD. ' ) 1/-2-1/S4 P.le=::55.E-li-:. '^ "•"""' Grove, T-exas ' ^ .; .- DL 100-104&1 .£.; ' I I Filo ]r JOHN T. KESLER and ,y iocc:c: Ar: VRR'vn'' MTTCH-P:?^ - T.AC Dc^o dictated ' 1/22/64 Lewis (L. J.) Exhibit A 534 1 13L 44-1639 "November 24^ 19^3 "Mr. J. E. Curry Chief of Police "5ubJeot: Shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald. feir: "Approximately three to five minutes before the prisoner was brought r^i^ut, 1 observed, a Channel 5 . Camera mounted on tripod rajlers come through the doors in front of the Jail office' tot^^e ramp. I observed three men pushing the camera, one on each side and one man crouched down In rear head down'' as If T'^a^hlng the camera. As the camera cam© down the slope from entrance to ramp, I grabbed one of the tripods to steady the camera. As the camera men pushed the camera into ' the ramp they turned slightly to the ^l^lght, one .. attendant stated 'We can't get out this way', they then pushed the camera Into the crowd of newsmen on * the East side of the ramp area and disappeared Into the rear of the crowjil. At this time I heard someone • In the Jail office door^qij'^te, 'Here he comes , As ' . I looked towards the Jafl office dopr, I saw Lleutenartt Swain come oiit. ApproXlraa'&aly ten to fifteen feet behind Lieutenant Swain, Captain Fritz came out, only *, six to eight feet behind Captain Fritz, Detective y\ J. R. Leavelle leading Oswald (hand cuffed) by the^rlght >/' o^ arm. I could riot Identify the detective on 02rwald's (^v'\.\^ right. As both Leavelle, Ozwald and unknown "He te.ctlve w •" \ approached entrance to the basement ramp, I saw Jack Ruby lunge from the Northeast comer of the ,V"v.' ^.^ V ^>-\^j Y . V 1 ramp area. I saw what looked like a blue steel snub -^f^y ,.^ X \ \ nose revolver, ajmos-c simultaneously Ruby fired. v \ -r 'OV-.' * 1'' Oswald let out a,.long '0-o-o-h'. Several officers jI^a ^' "'" '* Including myself attempted to grab the suspect. The suspect was then wrestled to the floor by several officers. \^ "I know Jack Ruby and had not seen him In the crowd or bulldlng|Until I saw him lunge and. fire at Oswald. "Respectfully submitted, "/s/ R. L, Lowery ' Detective, IT^lOSl Juvenile Bureau /^S^ CrlmlnafxV^ivestlgatlon Dl\;i3l on c^x : .£pc.No.5081 LOWERY,R.L. Deposition- V' ; Dallas 3-25-64 /V -/ LowEBY Exhibit No. 5081 535 , 102 (R.r.3-3-i9). ? EDtlRAL CUREAU 0? IUVE3T IGATiO:; Dsf F.OY LE3 LO!73nr, 833 ^T. Church. C-rcird Prr-irio,- To::r.3, tclc?ho;:o AM 2-1437, cnplcyocl S3 detect ivo ci. Juvenile Dv.rcr.'-s, Dallas Police Dcpi-tment, 2.d-<:l3cd on I'ovoi'.ibei- 2-1, 19S3 he V/T,s assir;nod to the Seciirit;'' detail , rc,,.\rdinc tr-usfor of L!:;3 ILanVJZ CCV.Y.Li: frc:.: tho i:r.llr.c City Jjiil to the Sallas County Ja.il. In this rc:-:".rd, Lc v/e.s stationed durins the pertinent period outside the jr^ii Oxiice 'et the bottom of the re,r:;p v;hero n. corridor Iceds to the jeil OaijIco. Ho v/es in position fix'o or ten nii-utcs before C:5'..'r..LD \:t.s brouc;ht out of the jziil office r.nd I ^^ v.T.lked five or si:: pe.cc3 (n.bout 12 'to 15 foot) v/hen "X^ I JAC'I I-l'Oir .?,"J'f,Y lunged frc.r. the opposite side of the rziup', ' ' ' ^ ; ". from the ::.:rea of reporters, toward CSV.'ALD. Il'JZ'I shot' • • .;* ^- .> point-'blr.r.h r.t CS'/Aic's stomach as he' ran. _LC ?." stated '..":: ho tnd*;ce;T,rai:J3thers gta'Dbed? RU3Y. .,..,..•;. -'.7~ r> LO'VZP.Y stated that upon bDinj r.ssif;r.ed to the Security retail, he had received his. ins ti-uc tier.;-. iro;a , Captain 0, A. JOITT'S, Forcory Bureau. Eaid i~:t:.-uetions related to vhcro he vras to stand and the fact that the area vas to be kept open and no ono was to bo let into the S.X03. except, of ficcrs- and press representatives. LCVrrr^T advised that he understood that prior to receiving his instructions, ,•'; the area had been secured. !: L0V.TX:Y related further v/ith regard to his e::act pcs-ition at the tiv.ie of the shcotins, he v;as on the r;.::ht of Uctectivc J. R. LrAVr.J-^Li; who had just coae even vith him. LOirzr^l stated that Chief LUll'l'IZI and Chief CHLZlLZ^ E/^Ivf^LOIl T.'ore in the area' at tho tirtc of the shoot in^. LO";7n2.Y stated that he recalled the Channel 5 Tele- vision cacora -.,'';.•. T.-as rolled down the coiTidcr zc tho raiap area just prior to the arrival of CCUAI-D in tho area. Ho stated that ho, too, was under the inpression that there rcre three F,en pushing this caraera and all had their heads dcwn. He stated as it passed hia at tho entrance of t:.c corridor at the rar^p, it was pushed across the ramp d:. c-..: l:o - . : :' -j ramp going to tho basomeat parking area and ^j-. ;;.: Jc-.-„r: .:. ^p], jji m iilLi i i I ji , I n i i i ij HUJJlll iii l, l II 'I 'l' " -I I i i i.i; um i nLm - w » i ii i -i » i i n iii . i k i DL 44-1639 2, feet behind the line of newsmen. and reporters. He stated this camera was never put Into operation, the cable was never connected, and the arJ^SAjr? cap was never taken off, LOWERY stated that following the shooting, the action^ of the two cameramen who pushed the camera from the area vi&B brought to the attention of Lieutenant R. E. SWAIN, JR., and they were taken to the Homicide and Robbery Bureau for questioning* LOWERT advised lie was of the opinion JACK LEON RUBY probably entered pertinent area under the pretext of being with the above mentioned Channel 5 Television newsmen. ^XCROk I <^/ LowERY Exhibit No. 5082 —Continued 537 — FD-3C2 (7.-V. S-S-$C\ Juvonllc ;iurea>:; , •'' .' •.ic,-: .0,-, Dallc.3 Dillec , wc-S of lAtei-vifc-ivjg Agiat.;: info;rr:.id ^^-. CS.Z.Z r.e did : lioc have to vdik to ^.ii.rn;;..> ; vb^- oi..; 3 aid ccuid be used cgainst iviia ijci a co-.tirt of Ij-Vv. ...^ to consul c an attornay LOU£R^ related trla followins: •. On Kovc=Tubor 24, 1^63, Chief STEVEKSON, Head of die Criminal, iftLeiligeiice Divisioii, cams in the Juvenile Burea.Ji at about 8:30 and told everyone precer.tI-ii'l to standby frcm 9t00 AM. At about 11:10 AM, Captair^ TRAMIC MA.RTIK, Kead of the Jcvenile w.ireatij, ordered all_ officers in the Juvenile Biireaw to tl:3 bascj?.:2nt. They ell v/ent do'-m to the baseHienl; The contingent frcsi the Juvenile „ Bureau consisted of Capt=-?i-n Fu\Rj'£W; Lieutenant GEORGE WoTL Detective W, J. CUVCs^Sl-J^i'-/; V^euective L. D. MILLER; Detective CKxLES GCOLSBV: Pattolms^ U, Jo H^^KRISONj and hi::iG3lf LCU , As jhey passed dovcn the corridor near the entrar.ce to the jail office in the baseKeiit^ they i-.'ere checlced throush by Patrolman NCLSON. After, stariding there for .a fe-.-; tncr.ient3j Cciptain JONES called evejiyor.e to attention and stated he v/anted the press to stand back in an area near the baca of 4 the exit rarap neat the jail door. This area V7£S a parl-a.-.^^ space enclosed iwithit! a lo-fj rfiilivig and could be Ciccribed as an e?':tension of the corridor leading by the jail office door. Captain JOM!-'S char; told the officers that he '.--anted thei-n to line both sides f;f the halli'.?ay and rar.p and to hold the press back,, He, IDUnBY stationed hiraseif at the inccr- , section of the hall to the jail office and the.Cc:7_-.:erce Street exit raiPtp, or the soathv;est corner. He observed a largo arrriored t-':'i:ck vhich had bean backed part way dcvjn the ConTTtiercc Street o>:it raiTip and sa's7 Lieutenant GEORGE E:7-T.'iL"R through the. cpen doors of the truck cleaning it cut. There v.ere six or eight officers, both unifor^i and plain- clothes n'«2;n standing atound the truck. He that Detective COMBEST V7as standing reraeffibered left, and Detective B. L. iiKr.ediateiy to his,, LOyf.KY's,, BEATY v;£s n<^./'> fr--i. ThU documool ccnialna nolthcr lacommendatlons nor concluslono of (h« FBI. It Is the prop«rty o( th« FBI and is ioan«d to your ac;onoy; It and II* contaotB at« not to ba distributed outside your agency. LowERY Exhibit No. 5083 538 DL 44-1639 corridor to the jail office intersect. He estimated that there were betc7een sixty and seventy-five Dallas. Police Officers in the basement of City Hall and that there t'7ere approximately forty to fifty nexv7spaper people, television people and radio people present. Captain JONES had stated that only police officers and authorized people from the press were to be allowed in the basement. Every one of the police officers v7ho were not personally Icnoim were Co identify themselves and the people from the newspapers radio and televieion were to , identify themselves with their press cards. Some of these individuals vyore their press cards attached to their lapels and others did so by holding them out in their hands. He, LGWERY , had no personal knov/ledge of any unauthorized persons being allowed in the basement. Some three to five minutes before the shooting of OSUi'iD, he observed a television Ccimera crew pushing a large television caraera, mounted on a tripod and dolly, frca TV Station IJPAB, Channel 5, Fort Worth, ccma dc^rTn the corri- dor past the door to the jail office and, V7hen diey saw the steep ramp and the armored car parked at the exit, one of the crew said they couldn't get up that X'yay. They then pushed the camera through a crowd of nev7smen on the east side of the ramp area and he did not see exactly vjhere they V7ent to in the basement;, but presumed it vjas somewhere in the garage parking area. He did not see these individuals ' identify themselves in any v.iay ^ and one of the men V7a3 pushing on the leg of the tripod on the left side and had his head very low and in such a position that he could not see his face; the man on the right side was also pushing with his head down, and a t^ixrd individual was somewhere behind the camera with his/<^own bet^^/een his arms. He did not pay too much attention to this camera crew, but is under the impression there were three individuals pushing the camera. Also shortly before the shooting, a marlosd police- car left the basement and v/ent up the wrong direction on the Main Street ranp. This police car had its red light j\ C R BS ff LowEBY Exhibit No. 5083 — Continued 539 DL 44-1639 flashing and thera were tnjo or three officers in the car. He did not renesber or could not say positively who these officers vjere. He could not remeru:ber the sequence of events at this point, in that he could not recall whether he sav7 the television caraera before the police car left or vice versa. In any event, shortly afterx-zards scjiecne shouted, "Here he comes," and LOIJERY loolced tcuards the jail office door and sacj Lieutenant SlIAIN emerge. An iiiGtant later, Captain FI^ITZ carie cut and he was follcjed by Detective J. R. LEAVELLE with 031JALD. LEAVELLE was handcuffed by his left arm to OSlJALD's right arm. These handcuffs were designed vjith three cuffs, ti;o of the cuffs were on OSWALD'S vjrist and one was on l.ZJ^VZL'L'E'' q xrrist. Another plain-clothes officer was holding OSU \LD by the left ara. He did not remeaber who this officer was. As CSVJALD came through the jail office door, the whole line of navsz::'^n and television people seeraed to cone f onward a stet). There were numerous flash bulbs popping and newsnen yelling at OSVIALD. Juot as OSU/iD end LE>.V»^LLE v;ere passing by LOUErvY, al3©Bt a foot or so away, a man lunged f orchard with a gun in his right hand, stuck the gun m OSWALD'S chest, and fired from a distance of about tijelve inches. Re saw the flash of fire from the pistol. The nan only took one step and thrust the gun forvjard at the same time and fired the shot, practically in one motion. He V7ent dov;n before he could fire another with several others on top of him. I-:e did not laiow vi^ho this individual was until his Iinti fell off in the melee and then saw it was JACK RUBY , whom he has loiovTn for several years. RUBY v-as disarmed and carried inside tiie jail office, RUBY caitie from the group of newsnien diagonally across from LOWERY, from the northeast. As the man lunged toward GSU/iLD, he yelled something X-;ith the expletive, "Son-of-»a-Bitch' in it. It could have been, "You dirty Son-of°a-Bitch." After the shooting, there was considerable con- fusion and he immediate y thought of the television crew who had gone through a fev» moments before and he went over in the area where he had la&t seen them. Detective CUTCHSEAU \^v ^^^^ —Continued LowERT Exhibit No. 5083 540 DL 44-1639 4 apparently bad the sa^ie t'ac-oght, because CU'i.'CHSI-L.U also VJent over where they had been and they tallciea to the television crew, and both of thei-^i stated there were only ti-70 men pushing the carnera. He said he, LOUKRY , could not be positive there v;ere three, but thought there were three and CUTCESHAW also thought there v;ere three men. One of the tv^/o television crew said that they didn't Icncu anything about a third man. Lieutenant SUAIN vjas nearby and LOIJERY told him about the television crew and SUAIN instructed him to hold them and get r.iore details. The tV70 men with the cssiera, which LOWERY described as* a long-range camera, then wanted to go to the third floor and LG'JERY went v;ith them and stayed with them for about an hour and a half. He reported this to Lieutenant BAICER and was instructed to get the names, addresses and phone nu?abers of these t\;o television cre^Tmen, which he did, and gave this to Lieutenant BAKER subsequently. He recalled tnat one of these television people \j&3 JOHN ALEXAKDER, who was v/earing a blue-loold.ng topcoat, and the other was a thin boy, w.io was vjearing a light shirt. He thought it strange that the television crevy said there v/ere only ti-70 when both ha and CUTCHSi-IAW v^ere under the impression that three men were pushing the camera, and he thought it possible that '" either RUBY or seme other person could have gotten into *'• the area with this dasa. He said he did not pay enough attention to the three to tJefinitely state that one of'^thea was RUBY. Detective LOWtiRY further stated that prior to the Lhooting there were three plain, urjaarked police cars l2.ned up just off the ramp leading to Commerce Street behind tne armored truck. One car had made the turn from the garage up^ the south ramp and the nose of the second car was just on the ramp and the third c£ll?; was just behind the second car. AIL of these cars had drivers. lie remembers tnat all three of the drivers were detectives from the Kcmicide Bureau and stated that, if his memory served him right, the driver of the first was Detective BECK and the second driver was Detective DHO;r f^l \ LowERT Exhibit No. 5083— Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 36 541 DL 44-1639 Detective LOUERY has >>nov7n JACK RUBY for seven or eight years , having met hiia in connection irL'ch his police v7ork. LOWERY has been assigned to the Juvenile Bureau for &70 years and last saw RUBY about one year previously prior to the shooting of OSWALD. LOWERY has never been eraployed by RUBY in any capacity, either full tine or part time, and did not kncr.? if any Dallas Police Officers had ever been employed by hira in :.ay capacity. He stated he did not believe any had because of a police regulation to the effect that no Dallas Police Officer could be employed in any establishment that sold alcoholic beverages. Re did not see RUBY tallcLng to anyone and did not see or talk to RUBY at any time between November 22 and 24, 1963. Ee said he had absolutely no information as to any association or relationship between RUBY and OSWALD. LowEBY Exhibit No. 5083 —Continued 542 MAIN ST. LowERY Exhibit No. 5084 543 Deoenli«r 1, 1965 :.r.J. . Gurr/ Chiof of Irolioe Bet Intftrviow of i'. L. Lovory Concvjmin^ :;ho>tln/; of I-oo Ilarvcy Oewald in h, vas Intoi^lovcfl by 1 leutorit-iJ.ta C. C« allaca u(i 1'. C. L, Lovar; ^'cC;^<: at 9»00 am on Kovomber ?9» 1965» r»-!n '' Irterviov v.^a csssn- "' tially tr.e aa o ii; orii^inal rcfort : i: ated iovotber 27» VjCj>» . ,. . Lovcry h; d thie to a '.di I \oulii li.'-.a to civo in noro d^^il a rer-ort of tto ohootiji-": ^f l.ee 2'arvov Ocv.ild. v-n .ur.i]a,v, Sovor.bor 2^, l9(J5i apf.roxi:) .^l;-' 9«00 am, CJ->icf "-?.?- C'cne to tS.o Juvcrils Bu-eau and toln hH luruau Toonnci ; i'. - • lliG5 r>.n, "lovoEbor .-'f, Ca:'tatr4 .'arzijr. feci roxiir.-.taly cor.-j with th-.t tiao, thooe frijs^-nt '.-.oret hi;-., ..t C. 3colnl)„ > .. •.;;iiteh£:>.GW, . ". J. ilsrriKon, L. J. Jlillci, and C';,-solf, v-a want vit^-, •Ja.jtxir 'i.^rtir. to tr^ olevstor and vent to the bat^vjisent. .-i- approached tho inf'Oi":>:ition ci- rny of.ic vt» -. rintle8 askod for idcr.ti.flc .ii:.n 1'; ' v;::. . , •._<, Thoro voro otbor ofrico o tf.aro in -riiforR;, yoisi^ibly r^^ccrv?c 1 ccn't r^cill tie nanoo of &ny ot^c ;c--rs tbsr© at i ' jail cffio. Ca- t.' in Jrnoi; r.et point 2.rr. ' :" by '.'or i'lxrt.iT instructiono. Ca.ti.ii; ^ o:ioo vent cut z . c . o oors into ranp ontranco and Captain J artin follo'~Gd hi. . -*fev :ir.ut3a Lator Ga- tain Jon'^c rotvirr.c. at ontion. I'o than told ol iicGrs to tGl;< of the- corridor, ^^Iso aoviood bot.:^ o' "icors f aition in tho rtinp aroa* ^o ea£;ca into ra r i i ;osition at tho &' oarnor of tho corridor >-nd ih p uiivo way. At t -.3 tl:::© tovoral oth.^r of ricare took tholr poaitions on both oiuco of corridor frou jail of ice (ioar to ra p aroa. I boliova Cartain JonoB ro;aatcd 'lii' inotruotiona to i3V'M.4n0, that ho vo'..l'i like offioare to fon lino nn both oiJoe of corridor, unA .ilao inGtr-.JCtln." news ;:orEonoll vhoro th»»y cho'ilo Vo» Ko toll neve pooplo to .-^ot on oaat of rrunp drive, .""roa ny ronitlnni bocaiie of tho strong li,'-hta 3Qt up for tho TV oanera, I could not clo&rly oag tho poi itioa of all tho other offlooro* Dotootivo Coabost vas on ny i'.n.odiute loft* (pfc LowEEY Exhibit No. 5085 544 - .If tor taVin-; ny pos tloitt I lo >l:t>ci t> 2 a:y loft ijn fncoa of t:«nc throi* -on boccu^a i)\')y vera 8t~or'>">d ovor vith hnf\(;a .Iovhi.t.b tV-:>y r.>llod punt ao, i5ovn u ftli Lt >- ' clino, tho O.I. ora nctod ao If it u.artod to tip ovor, ::.'.iC I ntoaiiod tho c:i.-.era viti. ny loft hand* Tho.. utoi-pod at tLo liotto:; of t).:- po <;i ra.;r nnd I huarJ ona of !.(> acn oay " o Cin't i^'t u? horo." Truy t en I tiovovl ti rouj-jh tho lino of nov/o-.d't n tha oast «i io of tho ranp, 7vo or tl.roo cinutos lator, 1 hour.', eor.oono inal-lo Jail offica t.-y, iora he co.T.oo," I loohort to ny loft, t'^v.ii'.'. tl o JkH r-f ico -o.).-, end o'b- aorvod Lt« ;:valn tippoar throu J; 11 o^ ice oor. .1". .^ ^ roxis-rwtuly .'..(. 1\ to 12 foot btihin.! Lt« --vain, C t -in rita a '.uaio, . .:. n-pvoxi'- .' tuitoly 5 ^t» bohind Captain t'rltr.. ob.-orvod otoc.lvo o.v.'llo, .' • vit;. v'ewald handcuffed to l-oavollo c l-ait a.' » also Jiotic.;c! a d it ^c- . tiv9 on Oswald's loft holdicg Oevrald's nrr., but didn't i-otico v! o tho v^::toot:iv:J was at that tlao. As I.oavclle and hia partner alon,; wit!, '-'owald, aproi- -v- - -" t; c Jail oi/ico nor, t( o proK.:- ort;C!j;rtil In- ;...: to cr."- < '; i: : v. pic^tji-co a:"ia arkinc (j-ioetiun8» Vlld l- net the ;. :. .. ^ .. ' cLc. Aii Frits j:.'\s1i noj L.r.d e,s Loavclle, '..iG pr.rt.icr, ;:.d Oswald c-i. tain aprroachoJ position, I nav a -.: 1 r o fror. th..-. cmv^: say .• { novor-cn, or:o-it'J ~i' poeition. >»8 t>:ii- li:n. .n.ard (.'X^.c: aing "i.is ri^rh': r:m, ' on.', firiritf ali oat sinultanc^oualy. Ca'-cld fvll tivck a etcy and Loav.illo, laid ••.•ov.-.l.T dov;i on t) o floor. At Vha Ba- >> instant tho el.ot veo firjd, zovvzrr.l oTicoro, I know Cutohs^av :ind Karrioon, ouhdusd tr.e nan vho firad t'o rhot, r.nd took t:.3 — frou hi:a. ly I rccocniaad tha r,an that Titai tYf> ah.ri; as Jack .^hy, I had not liotlcod Jack Aiib- bofoi'c ho fired to chos, I do know J.s,ck uby by . eight a.T.. h.'.vc nevor sosn hi;; in tls City ^'all, I acaistcd Gcvciral .thar ofricora t i".:o J.ack ^iib in'-.o Jail ofiico, yl.ore ha w.i:; tjorirchod. I did not help taka hla upstaira, b.it ro.-ai:aod as aficvirity at tho jail oi'fico door. 1 hava talkad to Faderal Bureau of Investigation Agent Sookont in fo^^arda to this inoidont* liespeotfully subnl,ttod, /' ?, G. .iioCatjTiron, Lientencnt Bui-glary & Theft Bureau 7] C* C* V'allnoo, Lioutenant Juvenile Bureau Ih \,\. LowEBY Exhibit No. 5085r— Continued 545 ~ Exh. 1 - John G. l.toCULLOUC-H McCuLLOUGH Exhibit No. 1 546 . FD-aoa (R«». i.2»^0) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 12/1/63 Dot* JOHN Q. MC CULLOUGH, Philadelphia Bulletin newspaper reporter, home address 6345 Woodbine Street, Philadelphia, Pa., advised he was in Dallas, Texas, covering,. the story of the assassination of the President, JOHN P. KENNEDY, from 7:15 p.m., Friday, November 22, I963, until approximately 7 p.m., Wednesday, November 27, I963. He said that at all times he was at the Dallas Municipal Building where Dallas, Texas, Police Depart- ment is located and in the vicinity of the rooms used by the police department, that he had to use his press card for Identification He said that on November 24, I963, he went to Dallas, Texap, Police Department headquarters located on the third floo. of the Municipal Building and arrived there around ten o'clock. He had to show his credentials to gain entrance. Chief of Police CURRY, Dallas, Texas, Police Depart- ment, was talking to a number of reporters regarding the transfer of LEE HARVEY OSWALD from the police department to county authorities. Among the things CURRY mentioned, was that the police department, during Friday night and early Satxirday morning, had received several anonymous telephone calls threatening action against OSWALD for having allegedly shot the President. One caller said that they did not want to hurt any police officers, but they would get the S©Q.B. OSWALD. MC CULLOUGH went to the basement where OSWALD would be leaving the building about 10:30 a.m. He again had to show his credentials when he got off of the elevator. From the elevator he went to the basement garage area, where a vehicle would take OSWALD to the county authorities. He again had to C'RS^ 12/1/63 Philadelphia, Pa. ^. „PH 44-767 On at File ff SAs JOHN R. WINEBERG & by STANLEY S. CZARNECKI / era Dot. dictoud 12/1/63 This documant contains nalthar recommandatlona nor concluaiona of tha FBI. It ta Iha proparty of tha TBI and la loaned to your oqancy; \\ and Ita contanta ora not to ba dlatrlbutad outalda your aqancy. McCuLLOUGH Exhibit No. 2 547 PH 44-767 Show his cx^dentials when he came Into this Immediate area. He also said he noticed the police checking police cars In this underbround parking area, to see that no one was In the automobiles, and that they were also taking shotguns out of the patrol cars, which are normally kept In them. An xmknown Dallas, Texas, Police Department sergeant was heaz»d by MC CULLOUQH to say these guns had been placed In the police department property room. MC. CULLOUQH estimated that there were probably fifty police officers In uniform In the basement area, some armed with 12 -gauge shotguns. He said that a crowd of approximately 100 people were gathered outside the entrance to the basement, where the armored tinick would leave the building, when It transported OSWALD away. Shortly after HC CULLOUQH got to the basement, these onlookers were made to go to the other side of the street by the police. The crowd was a well-ordered group, according to MC CULLOUQH, An unknown police officer told MC CULLOUQH that the armored truck that was being used to transport OSWALD was to keep OSWALD from being shot with a high-powered rifle which could have been used to better advantage If he were being transported In a police sedan or van. MC CULLOUQH said the clearance for the truck was Insufficient to allow it to get completely Into the building, because of heating ducts pro- truding from the celling. MC CULLOUQH said he and several other reporters attempted to walk over to the truck to examine the Inside but were prevented from doing so by a police officer. A captain of the Dallas, Texas, police department, whose name MC CULLOUQH did not know, briefed the press on the procedure that wouJLd- be followed at the time OSWALD was being taken throxigh the basement to the armored truck. They were toldi'they could stand along the line of the passageway which OSWALD would take going from the "booking room" and across the / c «??r yy7 —Continued McCuLLOUGH Exhibit No. 2 548 PH 44-767 basement to the truck. When notice was given that OSWALD was in the basement, the press waa not to follow after him, trying to question him or step out in the way of the group. OSWALD was to be brought down from the fourth floor cellblock of the building on a special elevator that carries the prisoners between the fourth floor and the "booking room" in the base- ment. MC CULLOUGH estimated that it was approxlmriately fifty feet from this elevator to the spot where the truck wa.s located. He said that this briefing took place at approxi- mately 11 a.m. He said there was a police car unmarked, parked right behind the truck, and shortly after a green police car was parked behind that car. They had both come from the parking area in the garage. The area of the corridor that OSWALD was to T-^-alk through was well lighted as a result of the need for light for television cameras. At lis 20 a.m.. Captain J. W, FRITZ, Dallas, Texas, Police Department, came from the booking room a few feet ahead of OSWALD and the two officers guarding him, and surveyed the area as he walked. MC CtJLLOUGH said at tliat time he was standing on a railing approximately fifteen fe^t away from the passageway where OSWALD would pa 3^. At the time OSWALD came out of the booking rc-jffl on his wa^/ to the arKir,T=ed truck, the, area from which RUBY" -.ame was cori^ested with tele- vision cameras, reporters and ptlioe. However, MC CITLLOUGH noted the movement of an individual, who later was identified as JACK RUBjT^ moving toward OSWALD as he vra],ked dovm the passageway between reporters and police officers. MC CTJLLOIJC-H estimated tl-^at by the time RL^BT got to OSWALD, he only had to go five to ten feet to put the gim in OSWALD'S stomach. MC CULLOUGH did not see miBI^s right hand until he shoved it into OSWALD'S stomach. At no time did MC CULLOUGH see RUBZ's face. MC CULLOUGH said that immediately after the shooting. ^KS- — Continued McCuLLOUGH Exhibit No. 2 549 PH 44-767 4 he heard someone say JACK, you ri— o~ a b . Shortly after the shooting. Detective COMBiAST told MC CULLOUGH that It was he who said this when he recogrr.i^ed liE&'^T, Later that evening, MC CULI.OUGH went hack to his hotel and saw pictures of RUBY on television. Ke then recalled that on Friday night, Ncverober 22, I963, when he had first got to Dallas, Texas, he was at the third floor of the Municipal Building outside of the police headquarters. At some time around midnight, he stood on a cigarette ash stand to get a better view of the area. As he wa.s getting down from the stand, he bumped a roan rather abruptly with his elbow. Ke turned to apologize to the man and noted that this ma.n was carrying a blue and white box with "Alliaaimarl-' stamped on it.' This box was about eight inches by five inches and approxi- mately three inches deep. After MC CDI-LOUGH had seen RUlTT's picture on .television, he was certain that this was the individual he had bumped on Friday. He said this individ^Jial was wearing at that tim^e a blue top coat and gray pork pie ha.t which was wool, rather than felt. This was a different hat than RUBY had at the time he shot OSWALD. Approximately one h«ur latPi-p that night, whi<^h >^-%n proba' ly early Saturday morning, N:ivember 23, I963, the TXalla-'^?, Texas, police department had a preE?3 conference at whir-h OSWALD was allowed to be photographed and pom.e questions asked by the press. The conference was held in the "line-up ro:m" of the Dallas, Texas, police department and la^^ted approximately ten to fifteen minutes. KG CHLI^OlvaH estimated that there wer- at least 100 pe^le present. He did net see RSJBT then, but aftf-r WJWf shot OSWALD, Justice of the Feace DAVID L. JOflNSTON. wYi^^ handled OSWALD'S arraignment, told MC CIILLOUllH ^f%€^ OSWALD'S death, that immediately after this conference, RUFY came ;ip t's JOiiNSTON, introduced himself and gave JOItMSTON a busj.ness .--ard advertising the "Carousel Club" night spot which RTJTBY ownel. MC CULLOTOH said JOHNSTON told him that the dress of KUBI was . c « ss — Continued McCtrixouGH Exhibit No. 2 550 PH 44-767 5 the ssune as MC CTJLLOIKJH had noted approximately an hour earlier. MC CUIaLOUGH said that on Sunday, November 24, I963, following the shooting of OSWALD, several reporters, whose Identities -hJa:* did not know, mentioned that on P'riday night and early Saturday morning, RUBY had passed out these same busi- ness cards with advertising on thera concerning the "Carousel" night club. They were gray cards with red printing. The reporters had gotten the cards from RUEY in the Municipal Building around the police department, MC CULLOUGH, who said he had traveled on campaign trips with former President KENNEDY and also on presidential trips with fonner president EISENHOVfER, said that in his opinion the security maintained by the Dallas, Texas, police department during the weekend of the Pi'esident's assassination was good, considering the tremendous number of press and tele- vision people which were there, and also the great amount of coverage given the story through radio and television. He said he recalls of no instance of any unauthorized individual being around the police department, with the exception of Friday night when he accidentally bumped into JACK RUBY. I MC CULLOUGH said he had no information that anyone had conspired with RUBY to kill OSWALD, or that there had bean any indication that any police officer had wilfu.lly allowed the shooting of OSWALD. MC CULLOUGH also advised that he had no infoi'mation regarding any relationship between RUBY and OSWALD prior to the time of the killing of OSWALD. CfR^r —Ck)ntinued McCuLLOuGH Exhibit No. 2 5-51 rD-302 (R.». 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1 Date November 29, 196-3 DAKNY PATRICK McCI.T(DY, on being contacted In Abilene, Te;xas, furnished the following information: His residence is 1424 Plowman Street, Dallas, Texas, telephone number- WHltehall 6-1590o He is empl<>jod as a disc Jokey at KLl^ radio station, 2104 Jackson Street, Dallas. M-CURDY advised there are four telephone lines leading Into r-.^ radio statbn at night. One, Riverside 7-6000, called the contest line. It is well known to the public although not listed Number two and three lines. Riverside 7-9039 and „ Riverside 7-9030, are known as hot lines and known only to stallion personnel and newsiffl;?t), In the area^ Number four. Riverside 7-9319 is known as' "Jock line" and known to the disc jQkeys and all personnel of the station relative of station employees and a few select frX.Aulis, of station, employees, McCURDY advised when a call comes in over Riverside 7-93I9, there is a large white light flaw-jnes over the console or i^ftatrol board, this being in the disc^Jokeys room. He adl^ised that on the morning of November 23, 1963 at about 1: 00 Ay;';^,thls Jock line rang and McCURDY answered. lipe caller said, "Are you RUSS", believed to have reference to RUSSELL MQSJffi (RUSS KNIGHT'), another disc Jokey who works from 7:00 P.M. to 12:00 midnight. McCURDY advised he Informed the caller of his identity and the caller identified himself saying, "This is JACK RUBY and I have some sandwiches and drinks for the guys at the station". McCURDY stated he told RUBY to wait at the front door at the foot of the stairs which is kept locked,, McCURDY advised that some 15 or 20 minutes later, he ran down stairs and opened the front door and RUBt was waiting with sandwiches and drinks. He advised RUBY accompanied him upstairs to the control room and news> room. He advised the sandwiches and drinks were taken into the news room which adjoins the disc Jokey room or Control room, operated by McO\X5v''^^^ij McCURDY advised the fol^^wing individuals were on duty or present in the ijtsws room at the time RUBY was there: GLEN DUNCAN, Night Newsman; on 11/29/63 ^, Abilene, Texas DL 44-1639 ^.^^ ^ by Sp.ciol Ag.nt COLEr/IAN MABRAY/jn / f/ ^' Date Oat. dictofd dictated 11/29/63 "•."'"' '•<=°"'»"''<*atlon. nor conclu.lon. of th. FBI. It 1. th. prop.rty ol lh« FBI and U loan.d to y^r agency; your an^^Z'.''i,VlW,'" It and It* contants or* not to b«dUtrtbutad oulaldo your agency. McCuRDY Exhibit No. 1 552 2 UL 44-1639 RUSSELL MOORE (RUSS KN.tGH^), disc Jokey, who works the 7:00 PoM. to midnight shl|;t and had_iua.t gone ofX-diity; First Name Unknown PAPPAS, newsman for WNEW, Radio, New York City, New York. McCURDY advised he talked to RUBY less than five minutes during which time RUBY expressed hoi^'tsorry he was that the President got killed and said ''I'm going to close up until Monday because of all thi3"„ McCURDY advised RUBY stated "I had rather lose $12,000 to $15,000 than-^~"«=^-' --- not be able to live mIUt myself later on", McCURjIY advised that this ended his conversation with RUBY, that he re-entered the disc jokey room„ McCURDY advised that RUBY seemed to be slightly upset and stood look- ing at the floor, however, did not seem to be extremely emotionalo He advised RUBY was dressed in a business suit and wearing a hato He noted nothing unu$ual about his body that Would indicate he was wearing a gun and he saw no gun. McCURDY advised RUBY visited and talked with the other individuals in the news room but he has no idea as to their conversation. He adViaed RUBY was at the station j for about ope or one and one-half hours. McCURDY believed I that RUBY'S express purpose was to t)ring them something to i eat. He advised, hovjever, RUBY has never, to his knowledge, i been at the station before nor since. He advised he had met RUBY one time before, some weeks ago at RUBY'S club. So far as McCURDY known, RUBY is not a personal friend of anyone at the station. McCURDY advised he had no idea how RUBY obtained the telephone number at the station as rione of the above mentioned numbers are listed in the telephone directory. He advised that the listed or public telephone number of the station is Riverside 7-9311. McCuRDT Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 553 !^ ^ S^oc^ ci z::^ _ac. No. 5015 McMILLON,T.D. Deposition _ Dallas 3-25-64 MMiiaiiiiiiBi 'iSSBSSk McMiLLON' Exhibit No. 5015 554 MAIN ST. t ^ 1:5- ^ 1 --- |_;^:^ 1 ' r COMMERCE ST. McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5016 555 — rD-302 {Rav. 3-3-591 1-EDERAL eUREAU OF INVESTIGATluN 1^ 1^ Dccc;rnb&r 5, 1963 \i' n.,^ b : THOMs : :;,fter be_ '_^vA ..oJ have to ..^..1...- -.. •--. by possibly bcj u^ hir. could QXi-VX, 01 and that he had the right to ; an ati follows % K3 is employed ss a Dotec^/ i349ji by the " Dallas, Texas, Police Dupartra&nt, a; ^d to the Auto Thiift Bureau, Criminal InvestigaticLi -:^.^.;_^-. ^:A has vjorkcd in this capacity approximately 7 years. ' Or. November 24, 1963„ :00 a.m. to ' 3;00 p.m. shift.0 About 10s 00 a SKA, HI advised all detectives in the Auto Thsf t Eui „_,u co _ About , 11:10 a. a.. Lieutenant SI-IART instructed all z in that siiction to proceed to the basement of the cil^' i^-j-l telling thca that they were planning to move OSVJALD to the coimty jailo After arriving in the bascrcr cf the city h~ll, Lt, advise-d the dctectivts th SIL'.RI' forri two lanes on cither sido of th- - „:.il office door. Kc^KKLLON stated hs too;: ;; jOL,xvxon on zno north v«ail Just outside the Jail door. Ke vjas the second :.ic.n in line oC-^t fr-- i>v- ''--'''. r'~~-^_ I vr.: . •tloriB ,ha prise:/ " : ^lil" oi to keep-^ . .- cculd be placed in 1 that Detective L. D. :;recall the officer 20 a.ra.^ KcMILLON J h- conee„" He that to - ;• jiil office door„ Jrciu thi £h.ci : ;-r, FRITZ camo out of the jail offi he :.3 ._..^.^ in front of McIdLLON he said. " . all 1-y^r.j.n^ right?" i:;;KILLON stated he answer, sir," but did not toow if the Captain was talkiri^ ^^ . or not. Ta.'i Captain proceeded tov^ard tho- I: .:. c- . , , Maii^ Ex. No. 5017 McMILLON,T.D. Deposition_ Dallas 3-25-6A A L2/V63 Dallas^ Tcxc PM. j^ Dallas 44-1639 ALLm H. SMITH and by Spocicl Agon;e_ Doto clictctod 12/4/6g [7^ FBI conclusions of the tho property ol tho FBI and Is lo This document contolna neither recommendations nor your agency; It and Its contents are not to be distributed outside your aqencj McMiXLON Exhibit No. 5017 556 DL 44-1639 2 was OSWALD with Detective LEAVELLE handcuffed to OSWALD'S right hand, McMILLON did not recall the name of the detective on OSWALD'S left. Another detective, whose name he couldnot recall followed OSWALD. Just as OSWALD and the detectives passed McMILLON, he turned to his left to follow this group knd almost instantaneously saw a man lunge out of the crowd about three feet in front of OSWALD and to OSWALD'S left. This man appeared to take one step and he was observed to have a gun in has right hand. This man was in a crouched position and seemed to bring the gun up from below hip level and take a step and move in on OSWALD all in one motion. This man hollered at OSWALD, "You rat S— of and at the same time fired one shot. B— -, you shot the President/ McMILLON stated he immediately reached for the gunman's right forearm and ^bout the same time several other officers reached the gunman and all went down onto the floor. There was a struggle on the floor to subdue this man and one of the officers took the gun from the man. This man was hollering during the struggle, "I hope I killed the S— of B-— I hope I killed the S— of B— ." . McMLLLON stated that he and the other officers who had subdued this man took him into the jail office. En route the man hollered, "Don't you know ."^ho I am? I'm JACK RUBY J' McMILLON stated he still had bhis man by the right forearm all the v/ay into the jail Dffice, There they laid him face down on the floor and tiandcuffed him behind his back, using McMILLON's handcuffs. \IcMILLON recalled that detectives ARCHER and R. C. V/AGNER, and other detectives whose names he does not recall were handling .^UBY in the jail office. Ka stated they got RUBY on his feet bo take him to the jail el&vator and at this time he noticed bhat OSWALD was also laying on his back in the jail office on bhe floor with other officers around OSWALD, They took RUBY bo the jail elevator and to the fifth floor. McMILLON recalled bhat detectives CLARDY, ARCHER, and Captain KING and possibly Dthers, were in the elevator that took RUBY to the fifth rioor. On the fi^th floor RUBY was strioped and searched and,?, ,f? Left dressed only in his shorts. About this time, Mr. SORREL'' t Df the Secret Service office came to the fifth floor to talk W' tio RUBYo RUBY was talking freely and said that he had read Ln the papers ttet JACKIE KENNEDY might have to come to Texas ;o testify and that OSWALD did not deserve a trial for what le had done and that he, RUBY, thought he would save the -axpayers time, trouble, and money. RUBY said that he was CR? O.:'^ g^i^ McMILLON Exhibit No. 5017— Continued H4-731 O— 64-vol. XX 37 557 . DL 44-1639 3 not trying to be a hero and that what he did he did on his own as a spur of the raoraent thing. RUBY said this, meaning his shooting of OSV/ALD, could not h-ave been more perfect in timing because Just at the time he arrived in the police department basement they were bringing OSWALD out of the jail door. SORREL^S.V; asked RUBY if he had done this on his own and RUBY again stated that no one else was in on the deal and that it was a spur of the moment action. Those present while SORRELS was interview ingi-,' RUBY were Detectives McMILLON, CLARDY;, ARCHER, and possibly some of the Jail personnel whose names he did not recall. RUBY was also asked how he got into the basement to which he replied that he had been to the Western Union Office, had walked down IVIain Street to the down ramp in the police department and proceeded dovm the east side of this ramp. He, RUBY, entered this ramp at the time a police car was coming out onto the street. This police car was driven by Lt, PIERCE. While going down the ramp an officer, according to RUBY, ha2ilered at him and said something to the effect, "Hold it a minute," or "where are you going there," but RUBY said he did not slow down, ducked his head, and had his hat pulled down and walked on, RUBY said he knew he could act like a reporter. RUBY continued that Just as he got to the bottom of the ramp the police were bringing OSWALD out and he, RUBY, Jumped out of the crowd and shot OSWALD. McMILLON continued that RUBY also said he was surprised that he, RUBY, only got one shot off and that he thought he could get at least three shots off. RUBY said the police moved faster than he figured McMILLON stated that RUBY was asked how he knew OSWALD and had shot OSWALD and not a police officer. RUBY replied that he had been to a press conference ^on Friday night in the police station show-up room and saw OSWALD there. McMILLON stated that he does not recall that RUBY was asked how he gained admission to this conference, but continued that RUBY said that during this conference District Attorney WADE was being interviewed and made several references to the Pfeir Play for Cuba and the Free Cuba groups and indicated that they were one and the same group but RUBY claimed that he corrected WADE, telling him (WADE), that these groups were not the same and that they were opposing and conflicting organi- zations. McMILLON stated that RUBY was not questioned as to how he corrected District Attorney WADE or he, RUBY, had knowledge of these organizations. <- (? S'i: iis-^ McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5017 —Continued 558 DL 44-1639 4 Sometime during tha lxit^-t'C0:^atl > (-!& C /( k> McMnxoN Exhibit No. 5017— Continued 559 DL 44-1639 5_ ll'S Im^u of no \r:^t:.:dih.2^:L-^v-l :;.Ci.^'Jona being permitted to enter the basement Ha cbE:':.?";/^^ j-sv ..-ii'aus police officers and o press 5 TV and radio pai-^^cmt'iil but did not give an estinato of the r.raiber of peoDLi triors , }Jhl-illI>Cil^ atatcd he last sCw RUBY prior to his^, pJjBY's^ Bhoolii^x *"'SMAL.D, oo November 24, 19635 about two or thr^^'^e montlL5 proVlcuslyp but he did not recall vmere he saw RDBY. MoMI/I-Oil Iiaa tjo l^ysowledge of any relationship between R'OBY and OSbJALI?, McMILLON added that while RUBY was being interview ed hy HALL^ RUBY told HALL that h'?^ RUBY^ had se&n £u article in a i.-allai^ newspaper by BERI^JARD WEISKAH that vjas derogator;/ to K:ei:;:ii;L>Y and RU&Y wanted HALL to check WEISMAN outo RUBY appCiSred to be vary concerned about this nsijapaper article and RUBY stated that he had gone to the Post Office to try to find out \rho IvEISMN was and his address. McMILLON ccntinu&d tlxat Fl(/.BY ix?as also talking about another police officer, L. G. i-lTjLLilKAX^ who had.bsen killed .in Dallas abouG a year ago who had bean cpdrating in an undercover capacity and the accus&d iiiller' was "no hilled" in court. RUBY said he thought of killin;!; this aecuB&d man because he got off without being puni^J.od and ha^, RU'BY^ thought OSV/ALD raight get off for kill in Officsr TIFFTS and the .5 . President o McMILLON concluded that h& did not recall RUBY being questioned in detail concerning the above related incid«ints o ^^' /7 7 ^ ^'^ McMnxoN Exhibit No. 5017 — Continued' 560 O O .4 * DL 44-1639 -^ v , '»' ir Cf,^ it "Nov&iaberf 2?) 1963 "< "Mr. J. E. Curry A Chief of Police ^ "Sir: •^:^ "I should like to submit tho following report regarding the ."^ v^ incident occurring in tho baaenent on November 24, 1963. ^^ \n "On November 24, 1963, I was assigned to the basement of the City ;^_tif Hall at approximately 11:10 a.cj. for ths purpose of security in C:^" the transferring of Lee Harvey Osvrald from tho City Jail, to the -^ County Jail. I was stationed near tho jail office door v/hich ?^ V exits onto the rasjp leading in a northerly direction tov/ard ^ '^ "^ Uain Street. Detective L. D. Miller v/as stationed to my imrsediate iV right and I was the second person from tho door on the north side ^^^"''^ T'-^ of the hallway which leads to the jail office door, I do not know / ' ! '^ who was on my left. /-• ,'jl h "At approximately 11:25 a.ja. Captain Fritz came out of the jail 'fiX office door and asked if everythiTig vas all right, and I ansv/crjs^d, "';^ "Yes sir." I do not know if he was speiking directly to me. >?V70 '^ X Homicide detectives were holding onto the prisoner escort ins^hin, ^ ^ and I recognized Detective Leaveils on the prisoner's ief-t-; Captain ^ ^v Fritz had proceeded past me and the two Homicido detectives with ^ >> . the prisoner had proceeded slightly past me. As the prisoner was ,\f^ ''^'^ even with mc I made a left face which caused rae to be walking in , \s^^ steps in forming the barrier on the north side of the prisoner, a' man jumped from somev.'hero slightly to ay right and in front of me. I heard this man yell, "You rat son-of— a--bitch, you shot the President." I saw the man as ha appeared to jump or lunge foward the prisoner. I sav/ a short barrel revolver and heard one shot. I attempted to grab this man by the right arm and could: still see the revolver. But after I had gotten ho3d of this man's right arm, several more officers were also trying to subdue him. At this point, I was on the floor just outside the jail office and the man said, "I hope I kjtlled the rat son=of-a-bitch." I do not know who took the gun from this loan, but Detectives Archer, Chambers, • Clardy, Waggoner, and some' more" officers took, this man into the jail office and at the time he was on the floor and I recognized him as Jack Ruby, V/e placed my handcuffs on this man and Detectives Clardy, Archer, and Captain King, and I took this man directly to the fifth floor men's jail,, after a prelirainary search in the jail office, I^vi'lj-o "T ^^'^-^ / ' ' ^ VvA- v'vx^ iWJl'l;^^ Ex.No.5018 MclJlILLON,T.D. Deposition_ l-Z ' Dallas 3-25-6^ /- r> /-^ L- Mr ^' ,.

, Mr. T. D. MC MILLAN, Detective, CID, Auto Theft Bureau, Dallas Police Department, Dallas, Texas, informed that he was instructed by- Lieut enant V. S. SMART of the Auto Theft Bureau to report to the basement In ccnnectlon with the oeeurlty detail on November 2i*, 1963. Ha itatad that he went to the basement at approximately 11:10 AM, He stated that upon reaching the basement he was stationed near the Jail office door which exits onto the ramp leading in a northerly direction toward Main Street. He said that he was instructed to walk along with the prisoner aTter he arrived and assist in guarding the prisoner from the sides. He stated that Detective L. D. MILLER was stationed to his immediate right, and that he, MC MILLAN, was the second person from the door on the north side of the hallway which leads to the Jail office door. MC MILLAW said that he did not know who was on his left, Mr. MC MILLAN said that at 11:25 AM, Captain WILL FRITZ came out of the jail office door and asked if everything was all right. MC MILLAN said that he answered "Yes sir". MC MILLAN said that Captain FRITZ had proceeded past him, and the two homlpide detectives with the prisoner had Just passed him, MC MILLAN. Mr, MC MILLAN said as the prisoner was even with him, MC MILLAN, he made a left face which caused him, MC MILLAN, to be walking in a southeasterly direction. Mr. MC MILLAN related that as he had taken about one or two steps in forming the barrier on the north side of the prisoner, a man Jvmrped from somewhere slightly to his, MC MILLAN 's, right and in front of MC MILLAN, Mr. MC MILLAN said that he heard this man say "You rat, son- of-a-bitch. You shot the President," MC MILLAN said the man appeared to Jump or lunge towards the prisoner, Mr, MC MILLAN advised that he saw a short barrel revolver and heard one shot. He stated that he attempted to grab the man by the right arm and could stiOJL see the revolver. Mr. MC MILLAN said he grabbed hold of the man's arm and held onto it even tho\jgh more officers assisted in subduing the individual with the gxm. He stated that while he, MC MILLAN, and the other officers were subduing the man with the gun, MC MELLAN heard the individual say "I hope I killed the rat son-of-a-bitch. " Mr. MC MILLAN said that he also recalls the individual said at least twice "Don't you know who I am? I am Jack Ruby. Mr. MC MILLAN related that Detectives ARCHER, CHAMBERS, CLARDY and WAGGONER took the man into the Jan office, and at this time Mr. MC MILLAN recognized the man who had shot the prisoner as JACK RUBY. He . 11/2^/6^ at DaJJ.as, TrtM;!^ Fil. # dl iat-i^?Q GEORGE W. H. CARI^ON AND f Sp.ciol Ag«nt8 PAUL LpgCOTT; mm . Dot. dictated 'i'i/^^/f^J lU docuAAnt contains n»lth«r racommandatlona nor conclualons of th* FBI. It U th« proparty of th« FBI and U loaned to lurtxqabcy; It and Its contsnts ars not to bit dlatrlbutod etttslc^^yieur agsnoy. McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5019 563 DL kk-1639 GWHC,PLS;maia 2 stated that after RUBY was handcuffed he was taken to the fifth floor, Men's Jail, and that he, MC MILLAN, stayed with RUBY \mtil about 3:25 PM, Mr, MC MTT.T.ATJ stated that he has known JACK RUBY since about 1957^ at which time he made a call to the Vegas Club to assist an officer in piflT^-ty^g an arrest. He stated that he met RUBY at that time and has seen him around town ever since, Mr* MC MILLAN stated that RUBY told him, MC MTT.T.AIT, that he, RUBY, walked dovra the ramp from Main Street on the east side. RUBY said that he, RUBY, had been to the Western Union and sent $25,00 to a girl in Ft. Worth and then walked to the police and courts biiilding. MC MILLAN said that RUBY stated that he, RUBY, could not have timed it better. Mr, MC mtt.t.atm said that he asked RUBY if RUBY was challenged, and RUBY said that one policeman, whom he did not name, hollered at him RUBY, and RUBY said that he, RUBY, Just ducked his head and kept on going. Just as he, RUBY, arrived at the bottom of the rainp. OSWALD appeared, Mr, MC MILLAN said that he asked RUBY how he knew LEE HARVEY OSWALD, and RUBY replied that he, RUBY, was present on Friday night (November 22, I963) at the press conference, at which time OSWALD was also present, Mr, MC MTT.T.ATJ stated that he has no idea how RUBY got into the area, and that he Just seemed to have appeared from nowhere. McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5019 — Continued •564 fysc\ 3" 1 '5 , d tA r^ (\y 5'«', (^fi.r*e,r/V£ >^. cS^ />^//^/e-/2^ .uj/k-3 .5r>/r; ixA^itX) -y'^ / wfywiMi ? r^ ^!^ ! McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5020 565 p/9-A5.r\) P/^evn -TW^e. ZJ^oA^ ^^ ^ T//Af^- /V S AT^ ^./"DA. '/. ' I - , -7?r o >yi£/<^ ^ v^^X> . /^X^ ocS.£. JS X> iE-j^-^^xLL>U*C^>-_ Mcmilon Exhibit 5020 McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5020 —Continued 566 - v^ f^ r^^* X^ /^ii~A'f*T:> -r^-z-i* r^f^A/ yM£-C "^»t*_ i^JiJCT. _ "7^ ^'^r7^^^r2i.-c> "To f/^flte 7^/i /^/^ry 0^ y::^^ , McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5020 —Ck)ntinued 567 S»^/'a^x::> ^/=/^/'o.a^ y^-xJio yTi^jR, ,/j?HW ^^,x> "3=^ ./V«t»/>i* ,2i:^_ /»/:»/V -715 V i fr es-cs T^y . To 7^^. ..^T>>^ fJ^^ct fU0:/)J'i <^tL McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5020— Continued 568 . 3 ! «». « *^ '.. • «v k. 77/, J ry>mr*, . ._ 1 • ^ i rr -> ' ' —"'^""^t"---- '- ^— McMiLLON Exhibit No. 5020 — Continued 569 '

^<>t cf a tr"o recording. 13 recording v:".- :^-CGti£atioa by - ; FrcEicIcnt KOii-^:.^.j -ijwiiiioo Cwllinj I."r- ricrl:hs^, ploasi iiz:i: nil. Helen Marldiam. Exhibit 1 Makkham Exhibit No. 1 571 l-ielen Klarldiam E:diibit i '^hanli: you Yoico: r-.-.r.lc Go ahcrid lolocco Vclca: llrirl: Lr.nc; Cl.) : My na-.ii- is £!r, Lcno. I '1:1 en c.^-: Investic'atinrj tha Csv/ald cc,30» Helen ::s.rl-:.-;.; CM): Yes. L: i"1niii 'ti7rifT.T''T1imniftiillfWtT'" Leo Itirv And, X*vo that, o; bo cood cnou::;li to sorry. 2 vi'or.aer . no tho de^criptic: -'o3, but %.- ...Ou too UIl, WOll, liO V .^D li2.d Keleii . .-^-. ^X.liOi.t I Markham Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX- -38 5<5 1.1 o "r. i,*voy Cs^JViM -lookit J. \...^u ^ lOOG. I L: Helen. Marl-diain Exlxibit i Maekham Exhibit No. 1—Continued 575 i"3c: Helen Marklaam. E:^J^ibit 1 CU C?,VJ it C-Op V'.T.:.: t,:2n (..-O, Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 576 " ,-»^. *^<- ri- HeLen Markhara il:diibit 1 ^ litiio : _j\i.'u iMii Maekham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 578 -.-.0 out iu tl'.^ open nt tlin,t tino. ; no one- t-v^ro but ne ;. ,/. Tippit -i coins Helen Markhain. Exliiuxi. Makkham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 579 . rielen jv..arlci::-:n. ^iiiiiDit 1 >;; in v.: i'os sir. Uh, in oihos-, s.u Oswald or yip^^it: „1 A„ Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 580 w-h-w^mm Helen Markliam Exhibit 1 Loe Karvoy Osvrald, R!m, Ho was not ansry? IIo didn't loolc cr-sry. You knot? Just llko, I thought it vist3 jv.st a frJondly conversation. Did you notice xvhich hand Oswald hold the pistol in? The right. YouVo suro it was in the right hand? l*a positive. ilow nnny shots vere fired, or Just one shot. Three, You board all throe shots fired? Yes sir. And TWhat did you do then, after the ahootins sms ovor? Well, I couldn't do anything; I froze. You fro£;(i? 1'C3 sir. And he. say you stayed there? About uh Lvo ainuten I imagine and I loolced up and -^- OGA.'iild \r -' - towards »e. - I:o ^vciE ;., _...^ ..-.'a you? Yes sir. \7hat did you do? 1 Just put my hands over my face and still stood thore and closed my eyes. Did he walk past you? No sir, ho tooK uh, ho uh, he was in the front of kc. ^K Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 581 Loo Harvey Oswald* ftka. YoU. And ho v\xn, and took my bands off my face; X thouG^t he vta.a goiag to shoot aa. And did you stayed right there? No sir. What did you do thes? Before be could, \th, gat out of sight , X vont to Mr. Tippit. L: You vont to Ur, Tippit? SI: Yes I did. L: Yeh, and then vhat? lit He vas still in sight. Well, Z tried to got help. hi Yoh, and did this cum Osvald» did he valk avay or did he run avsray? Ut After bo shot Ur. Tippit? L: Yoa. »l: He did not rxin. h: Be did not run? M: Bo seen m&. L: Yob. U: Stopped and looked at me «lth a gun in his hand. !<} Yebi and then did he walk? -12- Helen Markham Exhibit 1 Markham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 58-2 HfelenMarkham Exhibit 1 Loe Barvey Oswald, akn. And thon after ho stood Rnd lcok»?d at mo, ho turned and run and that's whon I rvm to ilr. Ilirjlt, h Oh, he did run at that point? Aftor, yeh, aftor. L Vblch vay did he run? M Dava, uh, across 2?attor>. L Yoh. Ho run acrosr? latter. ai~C di>\vn toward, uh, (unintolligiblo) Uh-uh. M Sure did» I told tho policcmon that. L 7ou told then that also? M Yes, and thoy wont dotm thoro and found blia at tho Texas Theater. L X BOO. Did ho run tomird the Texas Theater? M no run In that direction. L Tlovfar did the shooting taico place frosi the Tesaa Theater? M Oh, quite « few hlocha. I'd say throo to four blocks. L X see, and you vont over to Officer Tippit then? U Yes air. L Did you have a chance to talk to hin? M Yes sir. L And, did he say anything? X: Yes sir, he tried to talk to ne. He could not talk, c;ot it plain enough for lae to see, you know, to hear hia. -13- Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 583 Lcc Earvey Oswald, olca. Yea, M: And X vas trying to lini- ijiia. II© knew I ^.raa thore. L; Z soe. Bo didn't kitov you vera thoro? Ml Yea. Z tried to call In on tho radio for help. L: Oh, and did you call In on tho radio? Z trlod to. L: And xihsit happened? M: Woll, 1 juQt didn»t know how. Z was In hysterics and Bcreaaing. They heard m@ scx'oaalns and crying;. ht ?iho? On the radio you mean? Hi Yoa. Thoy did. u And did you atay with Oificer Tijtpit until tho police arrived? «: 1 certainly did. U ¥ou did stay there? Z vas there when they put hla in tho aabulanco. Z ea-yi hia, that \sraa the last Z saw hia alive. Yes sir. Z see. Z VQUt with hla till they closed the ambulance door In ay face, Z see, and then thoy questioned you. The police questioned you «hen thoy arrived? -14- Helen Markham Exhibit 1 f T^'S^vi-'ftA^iiSL*"* Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 584 Helen Markham Exhibit 1 Le« Barvoy Osvald, ftka. U: Yoa sir, X told thasi X a&v it. Li And thoy nslcod you and you told thcsa Just about what you told mo toow? M: I told then. Yes sir. l*t E^t, thoy didn't ask for way physical doscrlption of Oswald at that timo? lit Ho. Only his olothlns, L: Just bis clothing? U: Tea sir. L: And you said it vas a gray shirt and dark pants? U: Mo gray shirt. L: !•» sorry, gray jachet. M: And, uh, I went to "r. Tlppit. Yes, I did when after they taken hia off. L: Yoh. H: I got in the police car i^ith the pollcocxon. Vi'ent down to the polico station. ht Yoh. Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 585 Zlarvey Oswald, oka. And X didn't oco lilra no moro, TIaoy wouldn't lot raoIn. I didn't want to aeo hin. Thoy wouldn't lot you tioo Tipplt any laoi'o? TSh,no thoy wouldn't lot rao sco Oavrald any store. Thoy wouldn't lot Oswald Si>G wo. Tlioy would not. X didn't want to, t/hon was tbo next tloo you saw Ouwnld? The next tiiao I saw him? I novor oair bla aftor. You saw hla in tho lineup once is that richt? ^at*8 all. Ych, who was in tho linoup with hlo? I noan how naay people Four, Tliore wore Sour rjcluding hisi? Uh, Z boliove tl 1 tia ooo four including him* Four Including mid what did tho other throo pooplo look llko, do you recall? Well, Z do ono of them, Yoh. Tliofirst one cano out. Ha wag kind of light hocdedj kind of bald looldLnc; had on a bluo sweater; light blue cwoator Just a little li;;Iit bluo slip-over sweater with no clccvoa in it. -16- Helen Markham Exhibit I Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 586 '-'^—"-^T^*"' ^— «»' «» Helen Markham E>dnbit 1 Loo Harvoy Oswald, aha. I»: Yos. M: And, uh, cloan Xooklng and ho, I was, then tho other tw> didn't look co Eood. You imow, tho othor tlirco didn't look so good. L: I ceo. U: Z took ay tind« Of couroe, I was paosing out all tho tloo. L: Z Imow, you wero V0vy upsot at that timo* Ui Yos* 1*5 Of courso, you Bust hnvo boon (unintolliEiblo) you novor saw onyono killed "ooforo, xl'-ht? M; Kovor In ay llfo. L: So, you must have boon terribly upaot, uh, at that tiao. Do you thlnls it is possiblo you ELight havo mado a mistnko in terms of identifying Oswald? M: Ko, uh, no. L: You \sforo not that upsot. H: No, causo Z had to bo euro. Tboy \!«mtod to know right now, you knov?, Z Isnew as ..,:. l^ "•, L: Yeh. If: I could BOO bin causio I Ic-ckcd riribt in boro. Li Yoh, well you eat.' hi;:i for a littlo while ^hon ho cQiao walldLng toiyarU you. Ui I aav hia in tho eyc3. It v/a3 hia. L: Yeh. What color eyoa did ho havo, do you recall? M: Uo, It was so far. It v/aa too far froa ko for that, L: now far was ho vhon ho shot Officer Tipnit, froa you? £1: Oh, from ao? Oh, I'm not a [rood Judyioat at how oany foot, bit It wasn't too far mo. L: !Toll, was it across tho street? il: Caddy-comorod acrona tho ctroct. 1*11 toll you. Tenth and Pattou, it wao tho sccoad houso on Tenth and Pat ton on tho loft hand side. L: Yos* M: 408 X bolievo It Is, big t;hlto houso* -18- Helen Markham Exhibit 1 Markham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 588 «« MBBBBnan Helen Markliam Exhibit 1 •rfrm T..0 Ilarvoy Ctewald, al;a. ht tJli-uh, and you wort- ^ Wore you about a 100 loot away voxl l*d Bay that. About a 100 foot? Yeh. L And how close did 03\mld cons to you? m Rtgrht across tho street, L: ISo waa across tb© sti-oot when ho craao towards you? ;i: Yos eir. L: And, you saw hln coming at tlat time? U: Yos sir. L: And you had a chance to look at !:iri as Uo caiae? M: yo3 sir. Wq11» I couldn't nal'ou eoon pictures of Oswald since tho tino. I moan cinco be wao killed, I cp-iosa you'vo scon thoia on telovicion, and pictures, and tho newspaper U: Uh, ono time I soon Oswald. U In plcturos. -22- Helen Markham Exhibit 1 '^i^jtff] ::^:23~ Helen Markliam Exhibit 1 Makkham Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 596 Helen Markliam Exhibit 1 Loe Harvey Oswald, Aka* L: Yob. M: So, I Beared and k:' '- -ca rlcht with uo till lio got tbi'oucii. L: X ooo. He waa the only rei>ortor you talked to? U: Uli, no. One more L: From one of tho Dallas pax>ors7 M: Uh, yes, 1 bolleve. But there tma several coiae in from Nov York, all ovor. Lj Yeh. M: They Just vorriod ao to doati. L: Bow many FBI Asontr; -aoul*! yo rui told you not to j discuss this case vith ar-yon 3? H: Oh, I*d be afraid to say. It u-j^s several of then. L : Several? U: Yea sir, Lt How inany Secret Sorvico Ac;onts told you not to discuss the case with anyone? Ht Well, there was two or three of then. hi Two or throe of thorn. How many Dallas dotoctivos told you not to discuss tho case with anyone else? M: Well, X*d say there was four or five of thea. L: Four or five detectives, so a lot of people have told you that, and you generally have not discussed the case with anyone? -27- Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 597 Loe Barvoy Oswald « aka. M: I have not. Ls Is that richt? Did you sign any affidavit bosidos tlio ono affidavit that you slguod? M: I haven't sisned it. Yes air, I had to si^u ono for the Secret Service. Lt You signed ono for the Bccrot Service? And U'hat did that say, do you recall? 11} Saao thing it did down on, uh, at the City Kail. Police. !•: X bog your pardon? » Ui It was the, it*s Just like the one I gave the policcraan. L: X see. I see. Just about the some affidavit? When did you sign that ono? M: Oh, it was after !Ir. Ostrald cot killed. L: After he vas killed? Hi Yes sir. L; Secret Service didn*t ask for an affidavit from you while he was alivo, ia that right? U: Uh, yes sir. Well, thoy didn*t have timo. L: Yos, X know. Every thins happened so very quickly. Yoh. yioll, uh, I v/ant to thanii you very nuch for your cooperation and I'll make notes of the things you've told mo. Ui Well yos, and you don't think I'll have to so up yonder, do you? L: To Washington? H: Ko, to court up hcx*« . ^—^^—^— — '™'-' l""> JlJliM I| I^H|M»Mlimi»M.. Helen Mark ham Exhibit 1 Mabkham Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 598 Lee B&rvey Oswald, oka. L: To court? X don't, I ccn't toll you bocauso I*ia not In any way involvud in that Euby case. I'm Just involved in the other caso. Ut Oh. Li But I don't, frankly, off the cuff t/ithout studying tho matter it docon't soea to no that anythine that you saw Is related to Euby and Os\yald. U: Shoot no. Zi hope not cause Z don't want to go up there. L: But, X can't malto that decision. That's for the lawyers down there who aro trying that case, Ut You're going to Vfashington? L: Yes, Z'm investigatinj; tho caco fron an indcponri>oint to soo wliat facts 1 can '^ot and I 'a, uh, going to testify in V;ashinntor tc oirov as to everything, not tomorrow I 'a fciorry, ..edncnday as to everything that Z have been nblo to .: I want , to thank you because you've tcon «: Helen Markham Exhibit 2 Mabkham Exhibit No. 2 600 ?t/(; •p/i' =. E;^fe?S' r'rs, Helen arkham ! 328 East 9th. Dallas, Texas. ^ — Helen Markham Exhibit 2 Helen Markham Exhibit 2 NOTICE dopes, if not delivered, 1 the Dead L,-lo, Offc< If not delivered in j days, -eK { P.O. 3ox 2897 Uallas 21, To-t. Mabkham Exhibit No. 2—Continued 601 DL 44-1639 "November 26, 1963 "Mr, J, E. Curry Chief of Police '^Subject: Shooting of Lee H&rvey Oswald. "Sir: "On Sunday, November 24, 1963, I was stationed in the City Hall basement as security for the transfer of Oswald. "When he came out of the Jail office I was standing about mid-way of the driveway going into the parking area. There was a police car between me and the J ail office. I did . not see anything but heard the shot that was fired. By the time I could get around to the Jail, Oswald and Ruby had been pulled back into the Jail office. Ruby was down with three or four officers holding him. Oswald was lying on the North side of the Jail office on the floor. The doctor and ambulance arrived shortly after I got into the Jail office. "I did know Jack Ruby but did not see him prior to this incident. "Respectfully submitted, /s/"F. M. Martin F. M. Martin Captain of Police Juvenile Bureau" JIx. No. 5058 MARTIN,F.M. Depositioru, •-,.; >^ /o'f — Dallas ^-^^---: 3-24-64 :--^ -^ Maktin Exhibit No. 5058 602 FD-302 (Rov. 3-3.58) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION / 5\^ Captain FRANK M. MARTIN, Dallas Police Department, Juvenile Division, was interyieua^at his home at 609 Five Kile Parl^'ay. CaptaiJ^TMLI^^ advised he vras regularly assigned to the Juvenile Bui^au and works from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.; that on November 24, 19^3^ he received no specific assignment regarding the security aspects of transporting LE5 HARVEY OSWALD from the City Jail to the County Jail^ He received no instructions and assumed his duties were to control the crov;d of people and newsmen In the basement of the police station. He had received no Information regarding the threats on OSWALD'S life. He and the five detectives v/ho vsre under his supervision went to the basement of the polite station at approximately 11:00 aom. Inasmuch as they had no specific .assignments, they jjositioned themselves to control the crowd, . He gave his men no specific assignments. He is unable to recall exactly when he received his instructions to be at the police station for the transfer of OSWALD, Captain MARTIN advised he was not informed of any , change of plans to transport OSWALD by automobile rather than by the armored truck. According to Captain MARTIN, he Iciov:^ JACX ^JJ3Y by sight, however, he did not see hi:.i in the Co.r.pound pi'ior" to the shooting. He advised that had' he seen RUBY he probably ;jould not have put him out as he had received no instructions In this regard. He knew of no unauthorized persons permitted to be in the basement and had no knowledge c ; vjhether persons weirto Identify themselves before entering; however, he left the Corapound on one occasion and vras stopped at one of the ramp entrances by an auxiliary officer regarding his identity. He advised that auxiliary officers ve'e stationed at each ramp and that to his knovjledge this was the only entrance to the Compound which RUBY could ^ ,^ have used. He stated the auxiliary police are commanded (f>< i^^' '' by Captain SOLOMON, ^Jur> j^t^^'u^' h^o-''^^'"^^ ^' ;f on n/30/63°t Dallas, Tfixaf^ File i^ PL 44-l6^Q ALVIN J. ZItiMeRMN & by Special Agent s ^QSEPH G. PEGGS/csh IP/P/^^ ^^^^ ^.^^^^^^ This doeumeot contains nsllher rseommsndatlons nor conclusion^ of the FBI. It Is the property of the FBI and Is loaned to your agency; II and Its ceotsats ore not to be distributed outside your agency. .iiiimMji»iii.iii.-«.iMm II..II mwmu.immu,.w uvju j ..ml.i^ ^.No.5059 MARTIN,F.M. Depositioi\_ , Dallas 3-24-64 Mabtin Exhibit No. 5059 603 pL 44-3-639 According to Captain I.IARTIN, there were numerous persons in the basement, he stated, "it was a T.V. show;" however, he did not knov the identity of any persons other than the police officers present. He advised that the follov/ing nen were under his supervision at the Compound: Detective W. T. CUTCIiAW Detective W. J. HARRISON Detective' ROY.LOWERY Detective CHARLIE GOOLSBY Detective (FNU) MILLER Captain MARTIN advised he did not observe the actual shooting of OSWALD; hov/ever, he was only a fev/ feet from the scene. He advised that he has no information re- garding any relationship between RUBY and OSWALD. ^ K S'J /^r —Continued Martin Exhibit No. 5059 604 A\AIN ST. COMMERCE ST. Martin Exhibit No. 5060 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 40 605 ... . J;x.No.5094 MAXEr,B.J. Depositioru. DL •44-16» Dallas 3-25-64 ^ _ "Noveiabor 26, 1963 "Mr. J, E. Curry Chief of Police Subject: Assignment of Sergeant Billy J* Uaxey On Sunday, November 24, 1963 "Sir: '*At approximately 11:00 A.M*, Sunday, November 24, 1963, I arrived at Central Station, I was working "le**. Acting Lieutenant), Northeast Substation. The Patrol Officers were leaving for their traffic assignments, and there was a large group of reporters standing in the hall leading to the Jail Office. "I did not have dn assignment at the time of my arrival and when Lieutenant Pierce came down and got into his car I asked him if I could help. Lieutenant Pierce advised me to ride with. him gnd Sergeant Putnam to escort the Armored Car which had been backed partially onto the south; 'ramp. "Lieutenant Pierce drove the car, I was sitting in the back seat, on the left side and Sergeant Putnam, after moving the crowd o^^reporters out of our path, got into the frot seat on the right side. We traveled up the north ramp and made a left turn onto Main Street. Officer R. E. Vaughn was standing on our right side at the top of the ramp as we went out onto Mail Street. "I did not see Jack. Ruby or anyone else go down the ramp as we drove out. I kxor Jack Ruby by sight and X also did not see him in the basement while I was at that location. "We proceeded to the top of the south ramp via Main Street to Harwood Street to Commerce Slreet and took a position in front of Armored Car. ' < , . , "Apparently the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald had Just happened because I did jiot hear the shot and officers were rushing to cover the exits of the Police and Courts BiLlding and the City Hal as we pulled into position^ - r^ ; lU'- ... \''"j:^^'M V\"^-S^i^'' V^^ ' ' 'I 'm "prw Maxet Exhibit No. 5094 606 . 2 DL 44-1639 "After the shooting, Lieutenant Pierce, Sergeant Putnam, and I \7ent to Parkland Hospital and set up security In the building and the Emergency Entrance Parking Lot. '^Respect fully submitted, "/s/ Billy J. Maxey Billy J, Kaxey Sergeant of Police Patrol Division" /Of }^^\ ^. --wm — - ' — I?I2?1 ' i Maxey Exhibit No. 5094—Continued 607 ^FD.302 (Roy. 3-3.i9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIf *10N 1 Dato Dgc, 7.. 1953 BILLY JOE Il^^^EY, SffjTsec-.nt, Dallas Police Eapr-rto^nt, interviewGd in front of liis resiccrice 8912 Fraepor'c \-73.s Drive, and V7as advised tfcat he. did not. have to make a ctatGciant, that any statement he did make could be used against hira in a court of lax;. He \7as advised that he h3,d the ri^ht to consult an attorney prior to uakias ^"^y statement. He furnished the follov7ing infortcatioa: JiAIiEY advised during tta. previous interview tbjit he gave the inf orraation about the e::- police officer n^iNIELS and the "shine boy" as if he had personally observed these individuals. He wished to clarify this £3 inforcT-ation he obtained through conversation vzith Sergeant J. A. PUTIIAii and Lieutenant PiEP^CE. lie did not personally observe these individ'oals at the l-Iain Street ramp the morning of November 24, 1963. Cn Novenber 24s 1963, ha arrived alone in the Central Police Headquarters builc.lng at about 11:00 a.m. and entered through the I^Iain Street ramp entrance in a "p^^lice department vehicle, -irjiiXe in the bacement garage, he, looked over the crowd of reporters arid police "real good" and stated positively JACK RU3Y V7as ^^ot in the group at the base of the l!ain ;- Street ramp during the time li^JIEY vjas in the basement. He does not recall seeing anyone in that area wearing a hat. Just prior to the shooting of OSWALD, ViAXZY^ Lieutenant PIERCE and Sergeant PUTNAM left via the 1-lain Street ramp in. a Dallas police vehicle. Upon exit from the ramp, he recalled Officer Ct^^' VAUGHN was on the right of the ramp entrance, M'JSY - \ was in the left rear seat of the car and does no t recall if VAUGHN stepped ±to l^Iain Street to block traffic J^'^ c\'^ when the car left the bufding. 1^ ly f« _Ex,No.5095 MAXEY,B.J. Deposition.^ Dallas 3-25-6^; en l_J.2Z^X63at T)^.lln.P, . Te::, He arrived at the Cenxral Police Headquarters in Dallas at ^k 'about 11:00 AM driving an unmarked patrol car. He drove into the \ basement parking lot from the Main Street entrance and at that time ,^^ _ observed members of xhe Patrol Division being briefed on their trafric^ assignments as regards the transfer of the prisoner OSWALD. Ke was y_ wearing his uniform at the time," -> C, ^P He parked at the north end of the basement and walked over .p^ to a group of officers that he recognized, V7hich included Sgt, J. A..^' ^ PUTNAM, Officer P. T. DEAN and Captain TALBERT. When the briefing V ^^ was concluded, he told Sgt. PUTNAM that he would help any way ^e -^v, m could and was told that everything was in good shape but that he ^ could wait for a while with PUTNAM and DEAN. He had no definite ^ advance knowledge as to where they were taking the prisoner Dut x" assumed it was to the County Jail. He waited for a few moments and vO;^ saw a number of police officers near the jail entrance to the parking j lot and also approximately thirty-five to forty individuals who he \^' assumed were newspaper reporters or radio and TV men. At that time -^ a he was standing in the northeast section of the garage. A few moments after that, Lieut. PIERCE entered the garage, .. driving a' black detective car, and PUTNAM waved to him and said, «i Ex.No.5096 MAXEY,B.J, Deposition Dallas 3-25-6-; . 12/2/63 , Dallas, Texas ^., . DL 44-1639 . 0} I . rilo tf R. NEIL QUIGLEY; ^^^^^^^ by Cpociol Agont Dcto dlciaiod JOHN E, DALLMAN - LAC / ^^7 Tnls docuinont contolno nolther rooommendatlono nor concluolon. of tL FBI. Il U tho property o( th« FBI and la loanod to your agonc/; it and Us contants aro not to b« dlstrlbutad outsldo your ogency. Maxet Exhibit No. 5096 610 f DL »+'4-1639 2 "Come with us". He walked up to PIERCE and asked if he could assist and was told he should go with them as they v;ere going to escort the armored car. VJith thr-t he got in the back seat of the car driven by PIERCE and seated himself on the left-hand side of the vehicle. The vehicle then started to leave the garage by the north entrance leading jinto Main Street, but the area was full of reporters and it became l^ecessary for PUTNAM to get out of the car. PUTNAM, v;ith the assistance bf some Dallas reserve police officers, whose identity he did not know, noved the people out of the v;ay and the vehicle was then driven up the ramp to Main Street. During this time he saw no other vehicles in, or Leave, the basement garage. After entering Main Street, the vehicle made a left-hand turn, jent down Main to Harwood, went down Harv;ood to Commerce, and after Turning left on Commerce, took a posit:}.on in front of the armored 'car vhich was parked in the ramp at that location, leading from the basement. ^ few moments after the car had been positioned, he and the other officers observed police officers apparently making an effort to seal •:he exits of the police headquarters and City Hall building. He in )articular noticed that there were reserve officers keeping people from .eaving the new City Hall building. They then heard a broadcast over :he police radio in their car requesting an ambulance be brought to the ;ity Hall basement. They then moved their car out of the ramp, and the irmored car cleared out of the Commerce Street ramp, and a few moments ,ater an ambulance arrived and entered the basement. He and the other )fficers in the car immediately proceeded to' Parkland Hospital and set .D secuirity arrangements there where they stayed until it was learned hat OSWALD had died. At no time did he see JACK RUBY during his visit to the ;entral Police Headquarters on November 24, 1963. He recalled reading the newspaper and hearing accounts of the incident indicating that '.n had slipped into the basement from the Main Street ramp. ,IUBY If this /ere true it must have happened after he and the other officers had iriven out of the basement because they saw no one entering the basem.ent rem the Main Street ramp while they were driving up it, and it would nave been physically impossible for anybody to walk by the car because -if the narrowness of the ramp. He recalled as they were leaving the ; iain Street ramp, Officer R. E. VAUGHN was standing guard at the exit :0 his right. He also recalled VAUGHN had made sure of his identity ^ isually as he drove down the Main Street ramp when he first arrived t the Central Police Headquarters, He also recalled when they left, that, in addition to- VAUGHN, --(^ n ex-police of icer- by the name of (FNU) DANIELS, a Negro, was standing o his left at the exit -of the ramp. He also believed that the head C. R aT^E: ^7V ..^ \ Maxey Exhibit No. 5096—Continued 611 DL 41^-1639 - 3 "shine boy", also a Negro, from' tht? Central Police Headquarters, was standing in the vicinity of DANIELS (FNU).* He did not personally require anybody to identify themselves while in the basement, nor did he engage in conversation with anyone other than the aforementioned police officers. He had no personal knowledge of what security precautions had been taken although he certainly felt they were adequate from what he saw in the basement of the garage. As concerns JACK RUBY," he first met him about two years ago. On that occasion he was with his wife and had visited the Carousel in downtown Dallas for strictly social purposes. He, of course, was dressed in civilian clothes and, as he was leaving the night club, RUBY asked him if he liked the showl He told him that he enjoyed it and RUBY then asked him what business he was in, and he told him he was with the Police Department. He also took his wife to the Vegas Club on one occasion, but RUBY was not present at that time. He personally does not like to be recognized as a police officer when he is nightclubbing and never made it a point to seek RUBY out on the two or three occasions he visited his night clubs. He never had any occasion to visit them while he was on duty or in uniform and doubted very much that RUBY would know who he is at this time. He never worked for RUBY, nor does, he know of anyone presently with„ the Police Department or in any way connected with the Police Department who has worked for him. The last time he saw RUBY was approximately one month ago at one of his night clubs, and he has not seen him since that time. He did not see RUBY at any time on Noveraber 24, 1963, He has heard very little concerning RUBY prior to this time, knows nothing of his background, nor has he heard that he ever carried a gun. After the shooting of OSWALD, he talked to •one of the officers in the Special Services Division, whose name he did not know, who told him that RUBY had caused them no trouble. He knows nothing concerning LEE HARVEY OSWALD and had heard no mention of him- prior to November 22, 1963, He knows of no relationship between •H^iS5E-Y and OSWALD, nor has he heard mention of any such relationship. I c R f^ (srr —Continued Maxey Exhibit No. 5096 612 . Daocmbsr 3* 1963 fr. J. B* Gwrj :hi«r of PoUo« R«i Interview of Reserve Officer -J X Sergeant R. L. VsAye - 862 > } J iiri ;i )a December 1, 1963« Reserve Officer Sergeant R. L. Mayo was jiterviewed by the underslgnsd officers as to any information le might have concerning the shooting of Lee Harvey Osvald iot covered in Ms original report dated November 26^ 1963* isrgeant f^ayo stated that his duty assignment was on Commerce itreet across from the City Hall, He stated that an unknown rhite male approximately 25 years of age attempted to enter .hebasement of the City Hall, This unknown male was wearing .white streamer on his lapel. This streamer had the words White House Press". Sergeant Mayo stated that he attempted o refer this unknown to a regular police officer but this Mlvidual declined stating that he did not want to be a ^ other. ergeant Kayo further stated that this unknown individual isappeared shortly- after the shooting of Oswald. ergeant Hayo does not know Jack Ruby nor has he been eon- acted by any Federal agency at this time Respectfully submitted. d ack Revill ieutenant. Special Service Bureau MA^ F. I. Cornwall Lieutenant, Special Service Bureau 10 Mayo Exhibit No. 5111 613 FD-302 (Rev. 3-3-59) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION v+ ^0 12-5-63 ^v Date Mr. LC^^-N W. MAYO, 7203 Casa Lorr.a, Dallas, 14, Texas, was telev^-.or.ically contacted to arrange an appoi:rr!isnt . i for interviav? and advised as follows. He is a Sergeant in the Dallas Police Depart5:snt v. T Reserves. On the aorning of Koveisber 24, 1963, he V7as on -^o'f r^"^ duty as a Reserve Police Officer near the intersection of v > "^ ^ r I':'3^y,::rd"and Cornserce Streets, Dallas., Ke was not in the ^ 1 '^•v^ basen:ent of the Dallas police DepartEient when LEE HARVEY OSWALD was shot. Ke does not know JACK RUBY. ' C-!^ Jj . KAYO has no inforsnatioa concerning the shooting J -. \^ of OSWALD. j- J ;^ \ ,c^ S/^- 1^- ^ —^ •vpr'f ' ' • CL Ex.No.5112-. MAYD,L.W. Deposition Dallas 3-26-64 ^.- .. ^ 1- . .o , DL 44-1639 Dallas, Texas _., » ROBERT J. WILKISON - md 12''5=63 by Special A3ont — ; Da':o dictated Thl3 documont contains noUher rscoamendatlona nor concluclona of tho FBI. It tj the property of the FBI and Is loaned to your agency; tt and Its contents ore not to bo distributed outolde your agency. Mayo Exhibit No. 5112 614 ^ mnf Vs^m^-lf^^Ji /m(f^i /.^ / y*7ll6^5''XS^^ ,)4svXfr-5^/?-? at^'^ V^«»>^ ^^ MicHAELis Exhibit No. 1 615 — IMPORTANT: Inquiries on this merchandise MUST stale this number. No. A 1221 S. GRAND PHONE Rl 8-3292 LOS ANGELES 15, CALIFORNIA A. J, HideU SOLD . P* ©• 9»x 2915 JO Dallas y Texas Heinz W. Mlchaelis Exhi'blt 2 ate Shipped i^"^'- Magazine 2 01963 Approx. Del. Date — nsle DESCRIPTION AMOUNT S & ViT .33 Apodal P* C^umands 29.95 XXX 5^o .SLJ6 J-Q«00 Bal. C.O.D. 19 95 Full Pay't._ Cash n Deposit Cash?] Excite Tax. Check D Excise Tax Check n Sales Tax _ M. o. n Sales Tax- M. O. D ALPHABETICAL FILE MicHAEXis Exhibit No. 2 616 IMPORTANT: Inquiries on this merchandise MUST state this number. Pi- -^7 No.A 5371 1221 S. GRAND PHONE Rl 8-3292 LOS ANGELES 15, CALIFORNIA A. J. Hidell SOLD . P- 0- Box 2915 JO Dallas, Texas — Heniz W. Michaelis ExhiMt 3 / Railway Express A.gexcy XNCORPOKATHD £?X-5^ COPY OF EXPRESS R£CEIPTi^.ON-NEGOTIABLE Cft^f) (CONTRACT ON ORIGINAL) Printed in U.S.A. Check wl Heinz W. Michael is Exhibit 5 ^ "'*'**' '"'°^**^" ** ^- °- "• SHIPMENT b, nmjK ejcf'ftmss Raei t Numfer 7> ^"^.g LOS ANGELES, ^ CALIF. COLLECTED (Print or TifD« Nam* and Addrsaa dm) TO "^Sl'J.^^OyNT AiNBtifC.O.B. e.l.O.S«n*i 2Z^ il ^ .^ 1..AMO -0S ANGRES 15. CAm (Fw G«sliB3 iicii - with miert SHIPPER'S SPECIAL. INSTRUCTIONS »ty to whom proceedi tr- •• ' -^ — - . .'^. ^* anown od tkix form, ft]oo fili o be Paid 9c6hanICE DRAFT ISSUED •oaffirt with Ortwol EiircB t.-l»a.iia,tioii or Geienil i-or Halo fe«>mi>, C.OJ). ShipauBU m> tlrficij t^icog ChaSSS^ MicHAELis Exhibit No. 5 619 ^ ^ Mttj.kb (Austin L.) Exhibit A 620 — rD-302 (R.,. ,^.M, ^-^ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIcOoN Mc, "?5 /^^/ D«t. l/S/SU 1 V ' 1 DAVE L. MILLER, 5610 Lewis Street, Ap.artment D, who received' a letter from JACK RUBY following RUBY' s arrest, advised as f oll'ows : Mr. MILLER stated that he is manager of the Enquire Shine and Press Shop, 1322 Commerce Street, which establishment is owned by his brother, ISIDORE MILLER. Mr. MILLER further informed that this establishment is located just two doors from the Carousel Club where RUBY has been operating a strip-type entertainment. He added that RUBY has regularly parked his automobile in a garage located between the Carousel and MILLER'S place of business. MILLER stated that through his employment, he has known RUBY for three years inasmuch as RUBY has regularly brought laundry and dry cleaning to this place and, as a consequence, a regular and continuous acquaintance has been developed. He also stated that on two or three occasions he has visited the Carousel Club as a customer but has never belonged to any of ruby's clubs. RUBY also has dropped in from time to time on his way to or from the Carousel Club to say hello and also to have his shoes shined by one of the shoe shine boys. MILLER advised that he has never discussed politics with RUBY and knows him only as a friendly, congenial person. MILLER stated that he last saw RUBY on two brief \ occasions, the first being about 5:30 PM on November 22, 1963, when RUBY stopped by for just a minute or so on his way to or I from the Carousel Club. At that time RUBY asked, "What do you think about that S.O.B, shooting the President?" referring to the assassination of President KENNEDY. He did not mention OSWALD'S name and gave no indication that he ever saw or knew OSWALD. He gave no indication that he was more upset over the assassination than the average individual. RUBY last appeared at MILLER' s place of business about 5:30 PM on November 23, 196 3, when he dropped in and asked MILLER not to display a sign advertising the Carousel Club, explaining that the club was closed due to the assassination. MILLER explained that for som e time he has posted an advertisement for —" ^^^-- ^ " " 3Ci ' i^ : Miller, Dave.L. Exhibit 1 C^^OI. 1/3/6U Dallas,* Texas L.ot__ c., u DL U1-1639 FiU # S«..!-i A . EDMOND C. HARDIN - LAC v, -. ,,. ^31 iMiLLEB (Dave L.) Exhibit No. 1 M-731 O— 64-vol. XX 41 621 DL UH-1639 2 H'JBY in miller's window on Saturday evenings. MILLER stated that RUBY was walking and alone on each of the above-cited occasions, but he assumed that RUBY had either just parked his car in the adjacent garage or was going to get his car from the garage. MILLER stated that in the letter he received from" RUBY following his incarceration, RUBY asked him to say hello to SAM (HICKS) and DWAYNE (ARMSTRONG) and "the other boy", threi colored shoe shine boys who knew RUBY only casually and as a customer in their shoe shine business. The third boy*s name MILLER has forgotten since he is no longer employed. MILLER stated that he never knew LEE HARVEY OSWALD and never had any reason to suspect that there was a relation- ship or acquaintance between OSWALD and RUBY. He added that he has no information concerning the shooting of OSWALD by RUBY on of ruby's gaining entrance to the basement of the Police Depart: ment prior to the shooting. MIIXB31 (Dave L.) Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 622 -fix. No. 5013 MILLER,LouisD. Deposition- Dallas 3-24-64 FO-_30! (R.v. 3-3-}«) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION It nnt„ 12-5-63 Mr. LOUIS D. MILLER , 1231 Revina, Garland, Texas, was advised he did not have to make any statement, any statenent he made could be used against him in a court of law. He was advised of his right to talk to an attorney and the identities of Special Agents ROBERT J. UIUCISON and EDMOND C. HARDIN. No threats or promises were made to KILLER. MILLER advised as follows: Ke is employed as a detective in the Dallas Police apartment. Criminal Investigation Division, Juvenib Bureau, Police Headquarters. On November 24, 1963, he v;orked at 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. shift. ' A few minutes before the shooting of LEE KARVEY 03UALD, on November 24, 1963, he vjas on duty in the Juvenile Department, Third Floor of the Police Department. Someone • said for all officers to go to the basement. He does not kncx7 who gave the order. Ke went to the basement, and upon arrival, stood around in the hail corridor betvjeen the elevator and the Jail Office for a few minutes. Detectives ATv CUTCHAW, LOI-SRY, HARRISON and GOOLSBY of the Juvenile > ^vb '^'/Department _^ ""^ \ (/. -a /with him. were also on duty and all went to the basement 'Word was passed to the officers to line up Ijvl^o v/^/ along the ramp area and they all did so. He does not' ^"^^^ "^° ^^^^ ^^'^ order. There were a large number of officers ?<:^A y °^ °^^ ^^^'^ °^ ^^""^ ramp, exact number not recalled. A large h5 n-omber ^ A. of press and TV representatives personnel V7ere in the * O basement, exact number not knovm to him. Many of the press and TV personnel were along the opposite side of the ramp from the police officers. Ke vjas not assigned to the ramp area but was stationed to the left of the Jail office door. MILLER was stationed to the left of the Jail Office door for about five minutes before OSWALD was brought through that 12-3-63 Dallas, Texas ' , ^L 44-1639 or ! Filo i^ ROBERT J. WILKISON & EDMOND C. 12-5-63 by Spociol Asonf HARD IN - P^d Data dietotod nr ^ This clocuaent contalna nolther rocomm*ndation8 nor concluaiona of tho FBI. It U th« prop«rly of th« FBI ond la iooned to your agoacy; U aad ita contaota ara not to ba dUtributad outsldo your agaacy. Miller (Louis D.) Exhibit No. 5013 623 DL 44-1539 araa Co ha transferred to the County Jail. Detective CUTCKAU vjas standing on the other side of the Jail Office doorv/ay V7hich was on the VJest side and Detective McMILLEN was stationed i-.ext to MILLER. As OSVJALD was escorted pc-t, he and Detective McMILLEN started to move along the vjall of the Booking Office behind OSWALD and the people. The lights frcm the TV\ cameras v;3re very bright in the ramp area. A few seconds later, he saw a biur out of the corner of his eye, and at that instantp. the thought ran through his mind that some . . TV or radio man v;as running up to QSVJALD with a microphone. At about the same time, he heard a shot. As the shot "sounded, CSUALD and the escorting police officers seem to fa LI tov7ard the floor or^ ir.ove a little to their right. At the sarr.e time, several officers converged upon that spot and someone must have hit RUBY, since R.UBY vjas propelled, in his direction. MZLLSR was also moving toward the spot of the "shooting. Ke grabbed RJ3Y by the neck and believes scr^s other officer had a hold of ruby's arm and v;as trying to get a pistol av7ay from RUBY, which RUBY was still holding; Ke did not notice what type of pistol RUBY had, as he did not get a very good look at it. At the same time a large number of officers also converged, on. RUBY and RUBY V7as disarmed and taken into the jail office. The entire incident took place in a matter of seconds. When the officers were sent to the ramp area prior to OSWALD being brought do^ra, there were officers stationed on both sides of the ramp. Ke had never previously seen OSWALD except on TV after the assassination of President JOHN F. KENNEDY. Ke did not personally know JACK RUBY and does not believe he had ever seen him prior to the shooting. Miller (Louis D.) Exhibit No. 5013 — Continued 624 DL 44-1639 When RUBY shot OSWALD, the escorting officers and OSWALD were approximately three or four steps from him. However, the backs of OSWALD and the officers were to him. He does not recall exactly v^hat he v;as looking at when the shot sounded. Police Department regulations do not permit officers to x-7ork off duty in a place where alcoholic beverages are served. Re never worked for RUBY or in any of RUBY's night club. He does not know of any police officers who ever v;orked for RUBY. -. . • There were a large number of police officers in the basement earlier prior to the shooting, but he has no idea how many officers were present. He had no reason to check anyone in the basement since the security checks were made at entrances to the basement as far as he knows ,. However he was not- , familiar with the security measures that V7ere in effect. He does not know of any unauthorized persons that were permitted entrance to the basement or of any one permitted to enter without shov7ing identification. He saw no suspicious people in the biasement prior to the shooting. He has no knowledge of any relatriBhip 'between JACK RUBY and LEE HARVEY OSWALD. MILLER flaid ho hnrl nn nH-wn- Y'PrrJr ^ r\r , , l'nfo-^"^^tr4^=M^ concerulii^ the 6hootin& ul OGW/iLD. - Miller (Louis D.) Exhibit No. 5013 —Continued 626 DL 44-1639 'November 26, 1963 "Mr, J. E. Curry Chief of Police Subject; Shooting of Harvey Osvrald "Sir: "On Sunday November 24, 1963 when px'isoner Harvey Oswald was being brought from the Jail into the basement I was standing on the east side of the d6or to the Jail office. Detective Cutcbshaw was on the west side of the door and Detective McMillan was standing next to me. "I saw the movement of a peson comi^zg across the ramp from the east of me and heard a shot at about the same time. This person was hit from behind and propelled in my direction. I grabbed him around the neck and helped to take him into the Jail office. When I first made contact with this person he still bad a pistol in bis band. "I did not know this person and to my knowledge bacl never seen him before. <**Respeotf ully Submitted /s/ Louis D. Miller : Louis D. Miller 1236 DetiBictive Criminal Investigation Division*^ ^!.mm Aim.'. K>.\^wgm.vj _fx.No. 5014 MILLER,Louis D. Deposition Dallas 3-2A-64 Miller (Louis D.) Exhibit No. 5014 626 "~ Joe R. Molina Exhibit A Mf>rch 31, 1964 Dallas, T«»xas Thp '7f!rren Commissi'*!! C/O U.S. District Atty. Baref 9 )t Spnriers ?ed<»rpT Building Dnllfls, TrxpR Gpntlrmrn; I T"-ish t« rnter int-a th*" c immittec? r'^cord my story oncffrninfT the pftermoth Qf the trpgi c events of !7ovember ^2, 19fi3. •• .^^.-<-'- .. I was accused, libled, r<,nd Ipter my O'b i" o:f Ifi ye^rs vas terminated at the Texps jchi)l 3)-)'n L'e^Tosit ory due t«» unfair things said ahmt me. I think it «)nly fair pnd iu^t i-f inb] e that my testimoney should be part •f your records s'> that I may be clear"'^ and exonerated of tlie false rumors that were heard fr<»m c^ast to coast. Yours trulv, Joe R. M->] ina 4 306 Bro-p-n Dallp«, Texas 159A9 Molina Exhibit A 627 MONTGOMEBY EJxHIBIT NO. 5004 628 FD.302 (Hov. 3-3-S9) hcDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION H 1 I Dato 12/5/63 ^(<^ In addition to information previously given. Detective L. MONTGOMERY, Homicide and Robbery Bureau of the Dallas Police D. Department, advised that he arrived on-duty at approximately 8:00 AM and was in the Homicide office up uptil they got ready to move OSVJALD down to the County Jail. He stated that Captain FRITZ, in charge of the Homicide Bureau, instructed him to follow Detective LEAVELLE and Detective GRAVES as they escorted OSWALD from the third floor down to the basement and out to the. car,- -which was to transport him to the County Jail. He advised he did not see the shooting inasmuch as OSVJALD and the detectives mentioned were directly in front of him. He stated he savT a blur there and they were struggling in subduing RUBY. u He stated they had known RUBY for several years, casually, inasmuch as when he v;as in the Patrol Division he used to cover the district where the Vegas Club operated by RUBY is located on Oak Lawn Street. He advised he had not seen RUBY for at least tv;o years prior to the time of the shooting. He stated when they got out of the elevators and came out of the jail office, the officers, as v/ell as nev7smen, photographers and TV cameramen, were already there and he did not pay any attention to them and could not say whether or not he knew any of them in the crowd. He stated he was not present when these people were admitted to the basement and does not know what means were taken to identify them;. He knew nothing of the security measures taken other than what his immediate assignment was. He had no infor- mation concerning any relationsl^ip between RUBY ai>d OSWALD. j"-"^™" ZZIk -Ex.No.5005 MONTGQMERY,L.C. Depositigi Dallas 3-2A-64 12/1./53 „. Dallas, Texas _., ,, DL i*t-1539 JAMES C. KENNEDY and by Spocioi Agents LEO L. ROBERTSON - LAC p^^^ dictated 12/4/63 This document contain* nolthor racoDmandaUons nor cbnclusiona o< Wt FBI. It 1> Iha propacty of Iha FBI and U loaned to your a«onc/; »t and Its coolant* ara not to ba diattitiutad pul^tda your aganfiy, Montgomery Exhibit No. 5005 629 '——^•'"-~- ' -^—^^ ~—:aar.~..^m^ '-. _Ex.No.5006 mUTQUlAHuiYfL.Q. I/eposixioi Dallas 3-2i;~64 FEDERAL DU.^EAU OF INVuSVlGATiO:>! Detec'iivo L. D. IIOIITCICII^T:! SGiS Anr.con:"..-, , S-allr.o, Hoaicide and Robbiry Burcr.u, r.dvi:;cd th-^.t r.bout • 11:15 a.x., ICovcmbor 24, 19G3 L~: ili:iV2" CJV.'AID , s tulxen •,;.- iron the Koniicide and Kobbory Eurcau by Detect ivco Tj. C. Gl"l.*i\i;S r.nd J. P.. LniWL'LLIj OST.V.LIi v/as hr.ndcufxod. to the . left hand of hZIiVSLir: and GrJlVZ3 had hold ox OSV/AID's loft arr:. Lioutenant R, S. S'lVAII; and C.iptain J. ".;. P2ITZ wera in front of them and he (KOI'.TGO;."";",/) brourjht up tho rear. All proceeded from the third floor of the City Kali Diildins" to the jail of f ica in tho bascL.oat via jail elevator. I!01;TGC:2]I1Y stated that upoa arriving; at the jail office door leadinj;: ;rJ;o the bascincnt corridor and under j:round parking area, tho two officers v.-ith 0S'.7ALD cotv.-a3n them and tlOIITGOLrALi follov/ing, hoslt-itcd before joins into the corridor v.hilo Captain J, vr, IFZIIZ double checked v/ith Chief to sec that' the area \Yas clear. Ka stated that after bains advised that ever3,-thin?; v/as airicht, Captain Fr^ITZ told thGm to coao on. Ho stated that the t-.vo officers v/ith OST;AIJ>, follov/ad by hir.self proceeded , inxo tho coi-ridor loading to tho undoz'ground parhir.:j area and ..all:cd appro::iraately eight to ton feet to got into the transportation car. He- advis-ad they hesitated r.c:-ontarily for the car to finish backing up, at which tiv-.o J.CJI 1S20H rjJ3\', v.'ho apparently had been standing among tho uot/s -lOdia about eight feot away, ran up to OSV/AI-D v/ith pistol in hand and shot 03V/ALD point blank in tho stomach.. 1I0::TC0:.II;:".7 stated that he was to the rear of OS'.AILD at tho ti-o of tho sbcox-^-T r„nd saw G?-\' P.O.Box 30061, NO La 7#4o|s OyTMIS v;* <.:>^.;V /J -iV.r u/ wc-tfjazltie 5o. "New '^""^" ;J(>^C.7/7.'.% ^./ft-j/?./^/ Orleanb 5/29/63 //407 ^.. ^ V xtciiis: "vregg ahortnand aa^aonary; 20,000 Wordsj by Leslie ; T^oberts ss.-!- ^. . ((^i y"" • ,,?:^^. Order Ptievl&ea v^yth Annlv ' Edn #408 Lee Harvey Osv/ald w/:V24 Arrested: Dallas Texas . Search Warrant dated II/23/63, ld26 No. Beckley, Dallas, Texas 'xnis inventory was made & invoice typed In FBI OiTice, Dallas, Texas. H. W. HILL Prsparty CUrk Inv. continued on 11195Q . \ ' neither evidence aor recovered stolen property, 'wnte on face of this form in detail reason for police possession. Moore Exhibit No. 1 631 . :^.-=c.^p<^»7 ^ POLSC2 DiH?ARTA/l2^ST CITV or DALLAS ??vO?S?.TY CLERK'S INVOICE OR RECEIPT November 26 63 H.M. Moore; VJ, E. Potts; F. M, Turner; _ia Bill Senkel, Komlcide Bureau iicceivcd of_ the-following- described articles, § recovered stolen property: Evidence in Offense No. -Arresii? No._ -. _Ch arge >:urder — — ^iv, i^^xy^u' ,(?UANTJTr I (USSR and CoiTirnunioni/: an<^ Klstorlckl" 7/--^09l RdltiiiSiUU i: *?ocketbooks editions by Ian Fle.^ifig, .< - . I -^— . >. 'A .> one enoitittu ^IfTE~"Sp3?7'tftro~"Ecr7eU' .. n . t; f 11,1. n, , , . rp , , , , .:; 1 -' and the other ^^Live and Let Die" ^-Paiuohlet Nsv; York Schooa. I'or " , \:.:arxist Study, Pall Terni, I9S3 #^11 pLe c oer on leuoer'iieau oT o«tiuj.o r.uatie or Studies, Mobile, Alabama, 8/22/63 XC-SN"" #412 Oswald 2703 Mercedes Avenue, F1 V.'orth postmarked New York v;ith rerur-n address Rm 329, 799 Broaav;^y, ' ancSiev/spaper clipping Times x'lcayuae, ReVnzrrXginTS^ v.'xth cvi'uioM-e reflecting Oswald fine of $10 »=•> ^ "Ti or x6 vTsy^ foi' i:.j.s 'CTTrrTrg—porzrt^^YF -\ Handbill P?CC New Orleans VJith address L.H. OswaiQ 49u7 togazme St., New Orleans, La., }'p'/ #4l4 jf;EC /. - xnvoice oi' tne jones ^rxuciiig uoinoaay, ^ •^' 422 Girod St.,_^NOLa. 6/Vo3j,^^ -<4" ^.,|.> ;^jkrv^--o.:^l/ >^ 1,0 v\l „ ' —UiJUOi'lJc: x'or »;,vOOO" | F THE ARTIC*.£3 !^V F?CC circulars, total $9.66, bal. "^Z ALL Ph<' 1 MFPrT*-". j^FPCc' application' Slip ii/Xi?/ #416 g^"-Av|^^^.-;. /^-^d:.^^T T nrri nffs "^0; £S$4^t-^^5'^-V^.4^.a^r r -PM.g.cIa and r>thfir>-\n(jirp clip pings concerning Osvrald a^d cartoon _ rerqrrdin.g: defectors , #417 -^1 ~OsDrlvers handbook state of Texas Lee Harvey Oswala \}/xA/'d^ Arrested: Dallas, Texas Search V/arrant'oatea iJ./iij/6j, x^'Ao iNo. riedicxey, i;aj.las, Texas This inventory was made & invoice typed InFBI Office, Dallas^ Texas. H. W.HILL J\.V 11195 @ Pro^srly Clark If neither evidence nor recovered stolen property, wnto on face of this form in detail reason for police possession. ZSl MooBE Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 682 — ^/^ Term C?S— PC—t«T POLIC2 D2?A:^TAA5-^aT CITY O? DALLAS FP.OPE?.TY CLERK'S INVOICE OR RECEIPT • c Received of. H. M. Moore; Bill Senkel, Homicide Bureau \1. S. Potts; P. K. Turner; yoveni'DGr 2o -the'followinj described articles, in 63 § recovered stolen property: >?arder Evidence in O.Ter.so Ko -Arrest No.. .Charge. ColTJ ly. j-o-Jl^iju PUANTITT scriot contained in Osv.'ald-s Kane jbeaflo u- U.S. Coros document aopoint- I-Iarlne :'.:n ld 1 653230 Z??-! '! Pv3.l£t CIS 3/9/59 Ko. 1 653 230 satisfactorily Osv.-ald snecialized course in Aircrafi -n.-'ssed Control and 'Earning Operator lb J)ine, 1957, Keisle-/r AF3, fl-'^Sl Receipts Texas School Booic iJeposlpory for salary Lee K.Osv/ald no date Ai Typev;ritten proraise to pay loan fjor of State 3/9/63 raade out in name o, Le —1=^ u -0=^ .---^ ^G k^^.;-c: etter from Embassy USSR, VJashingp on J ,/ -xj^T- . aa. 8/5/63 in Russian language #;2^ ^. IIr.c5sir?ble Discharge U.SMC. 9/l3/pO Lee Harvey Oswald I65323O f;-'^25| y. 1 Letter U.S. Navy Lee Osv:ald I'linskJ nus:::a, signea oy K. hcG. 'i'nor^oicina iJL BriGadi'Dr General, USMC 3/1/f'^vji'^p ,.-4 1= DALLVi ;•;.>. \ ic-o^ci' froiii x>epov oj. ivavy 77^57^ '^z THIS .'..i~-.'.>.0.''tY Of-l.''.:.2._...194=:-^ to Lee Osv^ala, Nev/ Orleans, ALL j).g TUF ,\.7TiCl.':.'= Of P'-''\'--Fr m charge v:arranted ti-IST! D HEREOF. i #427 /T I s^pioyscati *i-<-^:.^.'.-.:_LSSu L-iil Security to Lee Oswald SSN 4^ Ji33_5iL3232_n^J2t±rL£nt_xiaJb£. address 757 France St., NO La /£!a. -AC* ... i/-^ /ir.^. ^hf^^_ , #428 'I^, 8/1/63 to Oswald on letterhead of OTXrrxtrr Alabama, #429 Arrestee: Lee harvey Oswaia w/m/ jZjT Search Warrant dated 11/23/63, 1026 No. Beckley, Dallas, Texas o H9 O This inventory vfas made & Invoice typed in FBI Office, Dallas, Texas. -^ 1119S /? -] /7* -^ fii "^^—W*^ HILL Property Qtrk li neither evidence nor recovered stolen property, wnta on face of this form in detail reason for police possession. Moose Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 63H CiTY or DALLAS ^2I^0?E?vTY CLERK'S INVOICE OR RECEIPT November 2o 63 .19. K.M. I'loore; W, E. Potts; F.M, Turr.erj Received c, f T^lll Senkel. Homicide Bureau -the'foUowing' described articles, § recovered stolen property: ICurder Evidence in. Offense No___ crcjnvrrrueir"!*?"^:^" x."iv . OUANTir/ ixx^^oci — ARTICLE Arres? No .Charffa DISPOSITION House oi"" Studies Mobile, dated and Koreno signed GENE #430 Released ^1 Letter on stationary or peter P. Gregory Ft. Worth, Tex., 6/19/62 a'G'Gesoing to usv/axu-s aoixioy as Russian Interpretor and translate j.-4_3X- -i Envelope containlns receiot for -;^G-ev Ofricc So; : 622 3 H arllao, Tc :. dated EW/M/' 11/11/63 for period \ ^ il 2/Sv^ Sinsle sheet In Prussian script cnntp^nincc Osvfald's name bearing Ho. 4-5 ^OB s-433 Sheet folded in half v.'hlch appear ^32- to be RusLiian identifica'cion document No. 332281 bearing the name oi' usv/aia in Kusaxan sci^o'JT i r UJ...1 OTKrrjrrTs^nTcrrciTC arro //434 uj.u.»iA. spaces for stamos in Russian no. 01311555 /f^l 35 -3ra-ri4.cl/ Folded Russian language form Z DAL. .."Oi iic/ro^riA' bpar-in,": Nn. 01311655 v:lt.h ^i. Osv.'ald'S name in Russian sciiot >?J! I. 0-TH£ ARTICLES 05 P;i;rn'Y 4, Legal sized sheet in purple ink '^^ USTElJ' H£R£0«. bearing dated 3/22/62 v/ith an -^: J 'f?f\ t/r/ ii ofi'iciai sT;amp ^/ ^537 "j ''lAMt Letter by Johnny Tackett on lette ?- /^ \ 0. /.^-^- X^^c?/- >.L:cpai'a.oioii TtTrili U,i.i';ax'xae Coi'ps in name of Lee Harvey Oswald datec 'vonR ss ...i/^ .^r" 9 s-?"- . -1 L^^. 1959 77="^ i H Birth certificate No. 17034 for jJa-?^^ y O s^'^j.d r o^leotins -bir 10/16/39 Polio 1321, Book No. 20 101 Arrested: Lee Harvey Oswald w/m/'24 ('Search Warrant dated 11/23/63, 1026 No. Beckley, Dallas, Texas r' ihis inventory was made & invoice typed in FBI Office, Dallas, Texas M 111S8 g — Property Clark fropofty (. H. W. HILL • . \ icithcr evidence fior recovered stolen property, vnte on face of this form in detail reason for police possession. Moore Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 635 r >^™c?^i.c-»r '• POUCH D2?AK?i\AE^3T. CITY O.- DALLAS ?P.0?2?.TY CLERX'S INVOICE OR RECEIPT November2o 63 H.M. Moore; V7. E. Potts; IT, M. Turner; - .19_ iiCCC:;VO Q , ^3111 Senkel, Homicide Bureau Of _the'folIowinj described juiicles. § recovered stolen property: Eviccnco in Offense No .Arrept No_ .Charge_JMS^££_ Coriuiriuea rroa xnv TIT^oG OUANVIVY ARTICLE T EIN NO. the name^-of Lee H. Gsv;ald #4^9 R eleased iKooXX I ! Lie enseJ^ Osizald ?-nd ione "6? nil v/ixe)~^OTo scenic shots, "'a Mexican Airmail Stamp and -I'leiv Orleans Library card No. NA i\dO:;U one m (haiTie of Lee H« Osvyald / J -^ -.1" • T -T 'M'JT^ . . JS Jl i"f*;Jorld Atlas; The Catholic -tJritins tablet (Fifth Avenue )#454 ^^^ bo euro Gily-lfcTr-drxc-crr^, ^ Russian sta^-nos and one 10 cent -(i/ic; Blue plastic- 2 zipper compartments - ~i-;an-s can spor'csniro Voriarlooii Tracitionals by Enro," "acea gra^v i>xac»<.s ( iTOY rTo—rxppcoy Pair raan-s blue snores //^^i/i'Ac'./L i-/hitewith flov/er design - light ^reen y.s^"'f it n^Mi^^^ ['OiJv^vtrA^n^c trin Dillov; case I Had, v.'hite & pink stdpe hand towels '^. _ ,' Red;G;v;hite stripe bath tov;els '^ '.'. nanokerchiei's Vjhi'ce 2-tone gray with red stripe handkjerchiei ED H£R£0f<, Yexj-ov; £: v/hite wa.sn rags T-shirts -J-ffiite - e;:t -r c -'-"j-e—sj^^c: e ^ Pairs socks - brown-v/hite-tan 3.- Pa i r brown .cjo th ^wpr k gloyg s __ X. _ ^f^^ Paxr rnari'^s ^laclc low c'uar^er sHoes "Jonn''i-^ar5y Braii :3! Pair man's shoes "Thongs style" "^t^rov.'n&vei.i.ov/, goia Kussian make poroaoxe^ra Dnicnowh exectronic device - BrowrJ pxasxilc case - broken ^ , Jallas. /rfexas , , 1026 No Beckley Da lias, Texas' J?. citT-.h-J'^g •^^?>jit_d.gjLejUJ-./S3./o^ • . - . . , This inventory was made & invoice typed in FBI .Office, Dallas, Texas 6J9 iiiS9 g H. ¥.KILL ' — : Fropsrty Clwk aelthcr cvidcnco cor recovered stolen property, write on face of this form in detail reason for police possession. MooBE Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 636 CITY O? DALLAS * PP.0P2RTY CLEP.K'S INVOICE OR RECEIPT Nocember 26 63 H. M. rroore; VJ. E. Potts; P. M.. Turner; .19. .Bill Senkel^Koraicide Bureau :":o:cIvcd of the'followinff described articles, J recovered stolen property: EvJcIcr.co in Offense No -Arrest No.. .Charse_Bi£l££ o o K ^ iTcrcw t^ *rA w.j xrr? ij."X5;"5fcr DISPOSITION [JANTiTY Bo-otlos'''SnuiDO£"''''?eni;ic:s~4D'0"''' iiar Dink L'a>: soao V.):^.- Single DJ-adS Drov;.i ::ia:'iG:L(i pccZet-^iinixe Pair, tvr.eezers j.n plastic box S^ V^T Cr.n. Tidy deodorant oov;cer j'art/ial cube Colgate oen^al crecu-n| Pla stic bottle Mum nlst spray deo dorant Partial cake pxnk soao 1 br.iall nand orusn p ,, L^;,\i C; vi'o v v. :33 att%-&i:>atlc -" Oall point per . -' , -vy Small ]oairT5c;L5sor5 . , . V^i ,iiaci-:a.f^^^Gille^ore pluf^ blades. iif-Zidle,—&C. ev;ci river Pair biack" rim green l^n's sunglasses ^' ^.raers Electric Co-Cp xnc Aqv jiailpoint .p C — " ->-, •) -[ "T , -/ -V-:d Nail cllooers T^y^CTT'JUJ/- Paoiock K'ey on key chain I'icvvJLCO ur --v^ plastic euo r'ar'cl.^.j. oube foille ^ 4?///. .'/o/ /^ Imperial riun-cing icniie - oaji scaopara ;^y .alL OF TH£ AHTiCLiS 05 .>^>-.^»n nvC'-'ERi, f Brovm o leather holster -I T '^g -^ -I- T ." "'" od'' r C /? I.",r^T-r^ ir.n L.--r>-^., h'-Ri-OfV, 11^ Partial bottles v.'ith unknovra liquid --p^\ \/~ZZ /- ,/ ,/-> i]^ Roll Marcal wax paoer TUcKUii;;; pxiomca ii'CTKKJT \ ~Y. '('^^E-U^uLU:'^ (- '^^L'h\Usj i^ -^ Package Russian glash cards "kirSin^Suitrs^gNi^-^aO^HlMs: Brown '-r imltafon^lll.gator leather case Arrested: Lee Harvey Osv;ald v7/h3/24 Search h'Tarr^nt dated 11/53/6^. 1026 No. pLcklev, D.|\llas, Tf^xa s This Inventory was made- & invoice typed Ih FBI Office, Dallas, Texas, - Capt. J. M. ENGLISH SA V/ARREN C. de BRUEYS H. U. HILL ;jsf? 11200 . @ Proporiy CJerk Typed by Virginia G, McGulre Ineithcr evidence nor recovered stolen property, wnta on faca of^lMs^orm in detail reason for police possession. MooBE Exhibit No. 1 — Continued '4-731 O— 64— vol. XX- -42 637 ^-/i^Mc/YS^ y (/[/c.) %llO/t(i?A'^<> JJtluXI-^j^sLILl. /'/^r^'i^ A MuEPHY Exhibit A 638 MuEBErr EbcHiBiT No. 1 639 ACTIVITIES OF DORIS NELSON, R.N,, BEGINNING 12:00 NOON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 1963 At approximately 12:00 Noon I returned from lunch, and proceeded to check the various areas in the Emergency Room, At approximately 12:33 P.M. I answered the phone which was ringing in the Major Surgery Nurses' Station. Mrs. Bartlett, the telephone operator, informed me that the President had been shot, and was being brought to the hospital. I told her to "stop kidding me". She said "I am not. I have the police dispatcher on the line." I thanlced her, and immediately hung up the phone. I asked Dr. Dulaney, the Surgery Resident, to come xaco Trauma Room # 1, and that I wished to talk with him because I did not wish to alert everyone which might have caused general pandemonium in the Emergency Room. I informed Mrs. Standridge, and she told me that Room # 1 was set up so I proceeded into Room # 2, and had opened one bottle of Ringer's Lactate when I heard someone call for carriages. Seconds later. Governor Connally was brought into Room ^^ 2, I opened his shirt, and saw that he had received a gunshot wound of the chest. Mrs. Standridge was in the room assisting the doctor so as I walked out of the room co check on the President, he was wheeled into Trauma Room #1, I checked in th. room to deter- mine what type of injury he had sustained, and was asked by the Secret Service to screen all personnel at the doorway leading to the trauma rooms. In the meantime, I answered the phone in the Surgery Nurses Station,' and Dr, Baxter was on the ' line. He asked what we wanted, I told him that the President had been shot, and he said "Yes - what else is new?" I said: "Get down here", and he said: "I'm on my way," I stood at the doorway with a city policeman and secret service agent, and screened each doctor that went into the area, I offered to get Mrs. Kennedy, who was sittiii outside of Trauma Room # 1, a towel, and asked her if she would like to remove her gloves which were saturated with blood. She said: "No thank you, I'm alright". On one occasion she got up, and went into the room the President was in. I went in, and asked her if she had rather wait outside, and she said "no". One of the secret service men said to let her stay in the room. She came out shortly thereafter. Several I^ite House aides and secretaries came in, and embraced Mrs. Kennedy, and believe Mrs. Lyndon Johnson was among them. Dr, Kemp Clark arrived. The cardio-verter was carried into the room, and Dr. Jenk; from Anesthesia came with an anesthesia cart. Shortly after Dr, Clark arrived, two priests arrived, and gave the President last rites. Dr, Clark came out of the room, and talked briefly with Mrs, Kennedy, The» the priest came out, and I talked with the First Lady also, I was informed by Dr, Clark of the President's expiration. I asked Mrs. Standridgi to obtain a death certificate for Dr, Clark to complete, I asked a doctor with th« Presidential Staff as to arrangements he wished carried out concerning the body. Nelson Exhibit No. 1 ()40 he President's doctor informed me that arrangements had been made to obtain casket for the body. Shortly afterwards, Mr. O'Neal of the O'Neal Ambulance ompany, arrived with a bronze casket. Miss Hinchliffe came out, and asked for ome plastic to put inside the casket. I sent Mrs. Hutton to the 2nd floor to btain a plastic mattress cover. I went in Trauma Room # 1 to determine that all as in order while Mrs, Ellis stood in the doorway, I asked David Sanders to ssist the nurses in preparing the President's body before placing it in the askcc. I Instructed the nurses and attendants to clean up the room, and mop the loor. fter Mr, O'Neal, and some of the boys who work with him, (only one of whose name knew - Audrey Riker) placed the President in the casket, and closed it. Mrs, ennedy went in, and sat in a chair beside it leaning her head on the casket, t approximately 2:10 P.M., the President's body was taken out of the Emergency Room, rs, Kennedy was walking beside it. All of the secret service apents left the area, lortly after they left. Miss Bowron informed me that she took the President's watch ff so the doctor could start an intravenous, that she placed the watch in her 3cket, and did not think of it until everyone had left. She went out front to find ^meone, and saw Mr. Wright so she gave the watch to him, gave a blue coat containing a white envelope labeled "cash" found, and a card with 16 name "Clint Hill" to one of the secret service men, len the presidential staff left, Mr. Price obtained coffee for us, and we went into J office, drank about two sips, smoked about two puffs from a cigarette. Then I ide ounds, and informed the registration desk that we were seeing all patients. :s. Wright came down shortly after that, and I reviewed with her briefly the past cperience, went to coffee with Mrs. Berger. Then I went to the Nursing Service Office, and is told that all supervisors were to attend a meeting in Miss Beck's office at 3:30 .M. returned to the Emergency Room, and asked all personnel on the 7-3:30 shift to re- )rt to my office. Mr. Geilich came in my office while I was talking to them. I ;ked them not to discuss the past events with anyone, and if any of the nurses were iproached by a member of the press that they were to obtain administrative approval ;fore saying anything. I went back upstairs to the Nursing Service Office to :tend the meeting. After the meeting, I returned to the Emergency Room, made rounds, id left at approximately 5:00 P.M. 30 - 10:00 P,M, - I watched television at home, and got ready to return to work at / :00 P,M, arrived at the hospital at 10:30 P.M., made rounds in the Emergency Room, reported ' the Nursing Service Office to inform then that I was on duty. At approximately Nelson Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 641 12:00 Midnight, Mr, Prall of the New York World Telegram, and Miss Joyce Eggington of. the London Observer, came up to the registration desk, and said they wished to speak to someone who was on duty when the President was brought into the Emergency Room. I told them that there was no one on duty at this time, and they would have to obtain any information they needed from the Administrator's Office. I instructed them how to get to the Administrator's Office. A few minutes later, Mr. Dutton brought them into the Major Surgery area of the Emergency Room, showed them Trauma Room #1, and introduced them to me, and told them who I was, and that I was on duty at the time. He asked me to talk to them. I asked him if I was supposed to. If so, what was I to say? He said; "We are telling them all of the facts." He left them with me. I ushered them into ray office. They told me they were writing a human interest story. They wanted to know what I was doing prior to the phone call stating that the President had been shot, and why I answered the phone. What did I say on the phone when informed? They wanted to know anything unusual thf.t any of the nurses said. I told them I could not recall anything. They asked aboau Mrs. Kennedy's reaction. I told them she sat very quietly, and appeared to be ia a state of deep grief. They asked if I offered her anything to drink. I then told them I gave her water, I also mentioned offering to remove her gloves, and wash her hands. To the best of my knowledge, this is all I can remember. Miss Beck came to my office during the time I was talking to them. I also mentioned that there was an English nurse on duty in the Emergency Room at the time. They asked me her name, but I told them that I was not at liberty to give it to them. They asked who they could obtain the name from, and I took them up to the Governor's office to talk with Mr. Read. I went into the Nursing Service Office, and told Miss Beck what had taken place. Mr. Read told Miss Beck he had no objections to releasing the name, but it was up to the hospital. Miss Beck called Mrs. Wright at home at approximately 12:30 A.M., and asked her what she wished her to do. Apparently, Mrs. Wright instructed her to give them her name. Then they wanted to know what part of England she came from so I told them. I returned to the Emergency Room shortly afterwards. Several members of the press came in between 1:00 A.M. and 4:00 A.M. All were instructed how to get to the Governor's office. Nothing unusual happened out of the routine between 1:00 A.M. and 4:00 A.M. I left the hospital at approximately 4:30 A.M. Saturday morning, went home, and read the paper, and went to bed until 10:00 A.M. I did not return to the hospital until Sunday afternoon when I heard on the television that Oswald had been shot, I arrived in the Emergency Room after Lee Harvey Oswald had been taken to the Operatii Room. I made rounds in the Emergency Room, talked with Mrs. Standridge concerning the treatment Oswald had received in the Emergency Room. I helped screen employees ai visitors at the Emergency Room entrance. There were numerous reporters and photograpl: s at the registration desk. Mr, Geilich informed me there was going to be a press con- ference in Room # 102. I announced this at the triage desk, and most of the press leJ the area. Nelson Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 642 -4- [ was told shortly afterwards that Oswald had expired, and would be brought iown from the Operating Room through the Emergency Room to the X-Ray Department, [ informed Miss Lozano to pull all curtains on the examining cubicles, and to ;lear the area. Jecret Service men arrived with Oswald's mother, wife, and children. I asked the ;ecret service men if they would like to talce them in the Minor Medicine and lurgery area, and I would have the doctor come and talk with them. I told Dr. .ose. Medical Examiner, that they were there. ,fter they had moved Oswald to X-Ray, Dr. Rose went to Minoe Medicine, and in- brmed the family of Oswald's death. The mother and wife came to the X-Ray Depart- lent to view the body, I assisted the police in draping him for the relatives to iew. I left the X-Ray Department, and returned to the Emergency Room, t approximately 4:00 P.M., I left the Emergency Room and went home. jris Nelson, R,N, J:bwh Nelson Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 643 MAIN ST. c ,B \~'^-r [la r.:^ \ ai--- 11 COMMERCE ST. Newman Exhibit No. 5037 644 ' 1 DL 44-1639 "November 26, I963 "Mr. J, K. Curry Chief of Police "Sir: . "This 1b a statement of facts relating to my activity as a Reserve Officer Sunday, November 24, 1963* to the best of my laiovrledge and recollection. "1, Approximate time I reported to duty, 9:30 A. H« "2. I reported to Lt. Merrell, Assembly Room. "3. I was assigned to the garage area of the basement Immediately below the Commerce Street exit. W^ assignment was to cover the door opening Into the sub-basement machinery area. I was on this assignment until approximately 13 minutes after the shooting. "4. Names of other officers in the same area that I can recollect are: • ^_ • "Lt, Suits, Sgt. Croy (Reserves) "5« Did you know Ruby? No. "6 • When and under what clrciuastance did you see Ruby? ' "]>ld not see him. . It /a/ W. J. Newman" It Newman Exhibit 5038 Newman Exhibit No. 5038 645 SSCATEi-ENT GF POLICE RESK-iVE OF.ICER V;. J. KU'^l-I/iN: I recall someone £oing over the railing at the bottom of the Street ramp, but I have racked ay brain and cannot recall l-iain whether it was before or after the shooting. I do remember that the person had on a sxiit, but I do not know the color. I don't rensmber seeing a hat, but I can't say whether he was vrearing one or not. This could have been about the time the , u ^'' ambxilance pulled in. "i ^ t^ ^,,v^ ']/b>- «1 4 Q iP Newman Exhibit No. 5038-A 646 City of DdllcLs -4,^^ ^lij' OFFICE MEMORANDUM '/"•Lt. Revill December 6, I963 Su&;ec<; ReservePolice Officer W.J. Nevraian /i^-* Res: 10923 Cotillion, BR-9-5923 Bus: 4112 S. Bucknor, EV-I-716I Sir: SUBJECT called this date and stated that he remembered someone going over the railing at the rar.ip leading into the parking area of the basement the morning OS'.'AID was shot. He further stated that he could not remember whether it was before or after the shooting. Also that he saw the person was v/earing a sxu.t, and he saw only his back, and could not identify him. Re ai5ipct fully submitted,/^ ii.V/. V/estphal, Detective \ Criminal Intelligence Section The only reason you and I are here is /o assist the people of Dallas t\J^I '' / ^ Newman Exhibit No. 5038-B 647 December 1, I963 i4r.J. E. Curry Chief of Police Sir: Re: Interview of Keserve Officer, Patroinan V/illian J. Kewman, 317 On December 1, 19o3 Reserve Officer, Patrolman William J. i\ewman was interviewed by the under- signed officers as to any information he might have concerning the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald which was not covered in his original report dated November 26, l9oj>, ( iVewmem stated,after reading his origineil report, that he recalled observing an unknown white msLle run down the Main Street ramp into the basement of the City Hall, ap/^roxi2iatei.y one minute prior to the shooting of Ocv/ald, This unknov/n male disappeared into the group of nev/smen and police officers and was not observed by wewman again. Patrolman Newman states^ that ;ie observed this individual just prior to someone in the crowd emnouncing, "Here he comes 1" Less than a minute lapsed from this time until the shooting of Oswald* rJewman states that he did not know Jack Ruby. At this time Patrolaan Newman has not been con- tacted by fiuay federal agency. Respectfully submitted, ih/? ack Revill, Lieut e"nant fSpecial Service Bureau C. C. i>rallace, Lieutenant Special Service Bureau V^ ^-^^y •^^ Nevman Exhibit 5038-C Newman Exhibit No. 5038-C A 648 cDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIU. /^ .1^ rw. 12/5/63 5l«- WILLIAM J« NEWru\N, Dallas Reserve Policeman, residence 10923 Cotillion Drive, Gar.land, Texas, advised that he was called by \ Sgt. SULLIVAN of the Police Reserve to report to the Central Police s^ Station as soon as he could get there on Sunday morning, November 21, , 1953. He stated he arrived 'there between 9;00 and 9:15 AM and was ^ told to report to Sgt. PUTNAM of the regular Police Department. Sgt. PUTNAM requested that all of the Reserves, approximately 25 7 in number, assist them in searching all cars and areas in the 5 "> basement. This was at approximately 9:20 AM when they began, and at ;i§^ about 10:15 AM Sgt, PUTNAM told him to guard the door underneath the ramp coming in to the basement from the Commerce Street side where ^ ) the armored truck was parked. / 'J He advised the door ho was guarding went into the basement, which was the engine room. He stated that no one came in or out of ^ this door while he was stationed there, and he was there from C^ approximately 10:20 until approximately ten or fifteen minutes after j '^ the shooting. He advised that he did not see the shooting. He did 1 (""^ not know RUBY. He never knew or heard of any officers working for ^A ^ RUBY. He stated at the time he went into the basement there were \ probably fifteen or tiJenty people already there other than policemen \r and that they were newsmen, photographers and TV cameramen. He did not know any of them. He stated these people were already there and he was not in a position to observe any others coming ih to the basement, so that he was unable to say what identification they had to show or 'if they were challenged to show any form of identification. He estimated that at the time of the actual shooting there approximately fifty people in there other than the police V7ere officers. He knew of no security measures taken other than what his assignment was but did say that he had heard the armored car was going to be a decoy and that OSWALD would be taken to the County Jail in another car. He did not recall who told him this. He stated that from his position where he was assigned he was unable to see the top of the Main Street ramp but could see the lower part of it. He stated that approximately one minute before the actual shooting occurred he saw a man coming dovm the Main Street ramp but since he could just see the lower part of it, he was unable to see whether or •not he was challenged or whether or not he had any identification. He could not see the man as there were too many people in between where he was stationed and where the Main Street ramp was. He did hot know RUBY and had not heard any talk concerning him prior to the shooting. C (/^ K' i- 12/4/63 . Garland, Texas ^., ,, DL H4-1639 JAMES C. KENNEDY and ' Special Agent c LEO L. ROBERTSON - LAC ^^^^ ^.^^^^^^ l^/'^/SS •decuman! conlatna neither raoommendatlona nor conclualone of tho FBI. It la the property ol the FBI and la loaned to ra9*ncyt It and its eoDtanIa are not to be dlatrlbuted outalda your agency. Newman Exhibit No. 5038-D 649 Newman Exhibit No. 5038-E 650 D-302 (n«». SO-S») FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (^ -^ 'oate Deccn-ibor ^, 1963 JOHN NEWMAM, Advertising Salesman, Dallas "Morning News," home address 3124 Kingston, Dallas, telephone number FE 1-8090, advised that he watched the Presidential parade / > on November 22, 1963, at -Austin and ^!ain Streets by Sanger- E.irris Brothers. He said he returned to his office on the second floor of the Dallas "Morning News" Building at approxi- mately 12:40 p.m. He furnished the following additional informations When he arrived in the office, JACK RUBY was sitting ^ ar NEVmAM's desk. A short time after he, NEV;naM, sat down, <- JEERY COLE"; came into the office and stated that the President r ,had bson shot. Everyone in the room of course, was perturbed, A short time after receiving this news, RUBY called his sister and while he w::3 talking to h»:r he told Mr. NEl'TNAM to listen. He put the receiver to I'ir. NEWNAM's ear and Mr. NE'illAM heard ^i the party on the other end which party he feels sure is RUBY'S sister. From the gist of the talk, she was obviously 4r very upset. When NEvVNAM first cams Into the office and saw RUBY, RUBY did not appear to be jartlcularly upset and he does Tot believe RUBY had heard of the shooting at that time. A short time later, NEl'/NAM looked up from his desk and saw 3.'J3Y leaving the office. NEVWAM could not state the exact cirae that he saw RUBY leaving but he estimated it to be at Approximately 1:30 p.m. John Newnam Exhibit 1 12/4/63 Dallas, Texas Fii, iif Dallas 44-1639 JACK B. PEDEN and bSpecial Agsnts JAMSS E GARRISsBL , Date dictated 12/4/63 1i document contains neither recommendatlonB nor conclualona o( the FBI. tt is the property of the FBI and la loaned te V' ageneir; It and Ita contents C"'*'^ to ^« distributed outside your agency. Newnam Exhibit No. 1 651 FDocs ;;uv,3o-sj) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 12-11-63 1 ~ JOHN NEVTNAM, Advertising Salesman for the "Dallas Morning News" advised that on November 21, 1963, JACK RUBY did not corce to the advertising department of the "Dallas Morning News" to his, NEl^AMb, knowledge. He stated that RUBY did call him, NEWNAM, at approximately noon time and reserved the space for two advertisements. These ^advertise- ments were to be advertisements of the Vegas Club ah d the Carousel Club. He said that at approximately 2:30 p.ni., RUBY I .'^ ciled and gave him the copy for the ad. NEWNAM further advised that on November 22, 1963, the day of the President's assassination when JACK RUBY was in the advertising department of the "Dallas Morning News" between ^"^ \ 12:00 and 1:00 p.m., RUBY paid for all advertisements up until Saturday, November 23, 1963. RUBY agreed to pay him again on a later date. John Newnam Exhibit 2 Cf^ si 12-10-63 Dallas, Texas DL 44-1639 at FiU # JACK B, PEDEN - md 12-11-63 by Sp»cial Agent Dot* dictated Thla docuni«nt contains neither recocntsendatlons nor conclusions of the FBI. It la the property o( the FBI ond la loaned to your ogencr; it ond Its contents an'xETROto be distributed outside your agency. i xron NeWNAM EiXHiBIT No. 2 G52 ?8 1 MR. AIaSXAI^HSR; I bollevo that's all. H2CRC;33 SXAI-ENATIO}! 2i '3! BY Iffl. BELLI: r 4 j Q Yoa have seon soma peculiar poople write adz, anc^ 6 i Indeed you havo seen sons books don© by peculiar i)eople too, 6 haven't you? 7 m. AIECffilESR; Hou, ue object to that, Juose. 8 :©. BSLLI: aiat is all. i) 10 1 11 a witness called by the State, being first duly s:fom, 12 testified on his oath as follows: 13 LIRECT EXAimiATION U BY MR. AJ^SmUMi: 15 q Your name is John Nefwnaa? ^ ,J^ 18 'A 17 Wiat is your business or occupation? 18 A I fiia on the retail advertising staff of the Eallas 19 20 Q And how long have you been with the rallas News? 21 A Well, since 19^6. 22 Q I will aslc you if your office is in the large office 23 on the second floor of the milas News ajilding? 24 A Yes> sir, it is; 25 Q And directing your attention to Kovoinber 22, 1965, JAMES J. MULEAOY OAU^S, TEXAS Jopyright © 1964 Stinebaugh-James Muleady John Newnam Exhibit 3 DnHfto, Toxaa Newnam Exhibit No. 3 44-731 O— 64— vol. XX 43 653 29 1 I Will aslc 70U If ^a vozked that cay? 2 A Yea, sir, X did; 3 Q. And vould you recall vtietlier or not that vas the day 4 that Preaidoat Sisnnody vlaitod Lollaa? 6 A Yea sir, it vaa, 6 Q, I2Ld you see the i>arado? 7 A Yea, I did. I 8 ^ Md after the parade passed, wherever you vatched it 9 from, did you go bade to vork? 10 A Yoa sir, I did. 11 Q, And what time did you arrive bade at your office? 12 A Approximately 12:^0. 13 At the time that you vent bade to ysur office, did Q 14 you knotf that the President had been shot? 15 A I did not. 16 Q, When you arrived at your office, I will ask you if 17 you sav the Cefcndont in this case. Jade r2uby? 18 A Yoa sir, I did, 19 Q, Do. you see Jade ]M)y in the courtroom? 20 A Yes, there is Jack sittios there. 21 Q, All right, vhen you got back to your office at 12:40,^ 22 vhere dLd you see Jack Riby? 23 A / At my deski' 24 Q And didyoo-notice what he vas doing? 25 A Be had Just got through preparing his ad for the next JAMES J. MULEAOY DALLAS, TiXAB Copyright ©1964 rleyU. Stinebaugh-James Uuleady John Newnam Exhibit 3 Dallas, Texaa Nevvnam Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 654 30 1 (Say, and vaa looklns at the paper. ^ 2 Q, Hd yott have a ccsaversatloa vith him? 3 A I opokd to him as usual, yos« 4 <^ £Ld hd spoak bade to you? 6 A Yea, he did. 6 <^ Hov long have you knowa Jack Ruby? 7 A Ever since he had opeaed his club, which vas a private 8 dub at nrst, down on Comsarce Street. I don't knov hov many 9 years ago, Hve or six years ; 10 Q, It vould have been aor© than one year? 11 A Yes sir, it would. 12 Q, And from time to time did he come In^ to place ads and 13 discuss his business with you? 14 A Ee did. 15 Q Kov, shortly after you arrived back at 12:^^0, I v/iu ask 16 you If word waa passed out that President Kennedy had been shot^* -17 J A Yes, it VD^.',- 18 Q, Vamt, if anything, did you do as regards getting up-to- 19 dato news, or watching television about the assassination? 20 A In the comer of our office, in our Promotion Ilrector's 21 ofCLco, there was & small television set which he uses on 22 occasions. 23 Q And what is the rinrfv^ of that man? 24 A Mr. ELck JefferyJ .25 q Mr;^ ELck Jeffery? JAMES J. MULEAOY OAIXA0, TKXA. Copyright © 1964 ' M. Stinebaugh-Jaoea ' Muleady John Ne-wnam Exhibit 3 Hallaa, Xexaa Newnam Exhibit No. 3—Continued 655 :^ 1 A Yds sir. 2 Q And where in that second floor was Mr. Jefferi'-'s office 3 located? 4 A It's in the comer, I voald say the northwest comer 6 perhaps, is&ybe & little the other uLrection, It's at the 6 comer fadns the Ealln.3 Hotel and Pla;^ outside in the front. 7 All right, I "Will ask you if you oav; Jade Ruby in front Q 8 of to. Jeffery's office vatching the television? 9 A Yes, I vas over there siyself, and Jade vas over there listening vith the rest of them. 1 Q. Hd you hear him say anything? 2 A I don't recall any specific comments at that tliae. 3 Sherd vas a lot of cosoient*' 4 Q, V;^ there anything unnf>ual about his behavior at any 5 tliQO that you savr him that day? 6 A Itothing unusvvU. I vould say, no more than anyone else. 7 Q, Were you all stunned there and deeply grieved by the 8 news? 9 A Yes. 20 Q, Have you looked out the ^Jindov vliich is opposite !-lr. 21 Jeffery'a door toward and across the Plaza towards the DoUas^ 22 Hotel? 23 A Yes, air.' 24 Q I will ask you if it is possible to see the building 25 known as the ll&saaA Sdxool Book Lepositoiy, from that window? JAMES J. MULEAOY DALI». TEXAS Copyright © 1964 ^ey U. Stinebaugh-Jamoa Muleady John Newnam Exhibit 3 Dallas. Texas Newnam Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 656 1 A It la; 2 Q I vlll ahov you vhat are In ovldencQ as State's E>J:iLbit£ 3 Hos. 1 and 2, and ask you If you can identify those e^dolbits? 4 A Yo8, I canr 6 Q And I vlll ask you If those tvo exhibits represent the 6 soone that one sees vhen he looks from the vlndov opposite Vjt, 7 Jeffery*s door? 8 A It is. 9 Q, I vill ask you if State's Exhibit Nol' 2 appears to be taken from directly in front of Jir. Jeffery's door? 1 A I would say it vas, yes, 2 Q, Nov, I vlll ask you if Mr. Joffery*s office is completeljy 3 separated by a vooden partition or if it was separated by a 4 glass partition from the remainder of the office? 5 A It *8 a glass partition* 6 A glass partition? Q, 7 A Yes sir* 8 Q, V/ould you indicate to the Jury, just pciiit where the 9 Texas School Book L^c>ository Building is, in each of these 20 exhibits? 21 A Right here — and rl^t here (indicating). 22 And I vill ask you if that is approxLmatoly between the Q, 23 T^TT^a Hotel and the Post Office — in other words in the 24 picture the building appears to bo between the Hollas Hotel 25 and the Post Office? JAMES J. MULCADY DALLAS, TEXAS Copyright © 1964 H. John Newnam Exhibit 3 Stinebaugh-James Muleady Pallaa, Texaa Newnam Exhibit No. 3—Continued 657 33 1 A Yos, I seo vhat you ciean — :^3 it does. 2 Q Now, con you tell us, this iu for the parpooo of the 3 record, I vill e£k you if it is possible to see Eln Street, 4 as it passes the Texas School Book JDspository, or is the 6 street itself obscured by the live Oak trees in the Plasa? 6 A I vould say it is obscured. 7 Q Do you know vhat time that Jack Ruby left the liQllas 8 Kevs office? 9 A IDio exact tiine I am not sure, I vould say approximatcl; lOO or a little after. 1 Could you tell us about hov xocsiy ads a veek that Jack ^ 2 Baby run uith the Ti&Tla'i Nevs? 3 A Qiat vould fluctuate a little, possibly between three 4 and five average. 5 Q And did Jad: Puby personally take care of his ads? 6 A Yes, he did.' 7 (^ For the Q»st part, did he vrLte his ovn ads? 8 A For the loost part, yes. 9 (^ Ud he appear to be coz!:Qpetent in that phase of his 20 business? i 21 A !Ces, I vould say vexj coasotenf. 22 Q, I vill ask you if there vas anythix^ unusual about 23 Ruby's behavior over the period of tiiz^ that you knew him; 24 did he appear to be nozizal? 20 A As far as I know. I knew him in his business, and he JAMES J. MULEADY DALLAS, TEXAS Copyright © 1964 iVU, Stinebaugh-James Muleady John Newiam Exhibit 3 • PallaK, Tonno Newnam Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 658 . • ^ 1 appeared normal, as far as I vas concerned. 2 Q • I vlH ask you if ho could bo characterized as a rather 3 volatile eocdtablo Individual, talked fast, talked loud, por- 4 hapa waved his arms sometimes when exdtod, or Just tell us 6 hov ho appeared to you? 6 A Veil, yes, I think Jack Is excitable. Our conversa- 7 tions at times, he vould teH me that ho vas, and sometimes 8 ho vould be more so than others'.' 9 But there never appeared anything abnormal about his Q 10 bobavlor? - 11 A No;' Ab a matter of fact ve got along just fine, • 12 -'-'«•>- • I©. ALEX/JIIER; Pass the witness 13 !©• BELLE: Your Eonor, ve have oome notebooks 14 ".; .! ;ir. hero that vo Just bought at the book store. If the 15 •::;". T. Jurora vant to tako some notes." 16 THE COURT: No, sir, the Jurors do not take 17 notes of the testimony, Mr'.' Belli;' 18 MR.- lONAHILL: Exception; 19 CROSS EXAMIKA2ia-I 20 BY MR. TOMHILL: • 21 Q Mr. Newnam, you say that Jack vas more excitable at 22 vailous times than he vas at others? 23 A Well, on occasion, yes.' 24 Q. V£L11 you explain sons of those occasions and what 26 prompted tho excitement which you considered to be more JAMES J. MULEAOY DALLAS, TEXAS Copyright © 1964 •i. Stlnebaugh-Jamaa Uul«ady. John Newnam Exhibit 3 Newnam Exhibit No. 3— Continued 659 I unusual than the other oooasions, such as boins calm and 2 oolldoted? 3 A Veil, I bolievQ it vould probably be In repremandins 4 his es^plOToes in scone maimor. 6 Q He would Qet pretty hysterical then, would ho not? A Well, I suppose a degree, what you call hysterical. ^ 7 HO would get excited* lie would get excited'.' 8 Cl Very excited, and after it was over would he calm down 9 and appear as thoui^ nothing bad ever happened? 10 A Well, In his dealingo with bb, we always got along flnei 11 We never had any difficulties."' Wo would continue with what- 12 ever he was doing. ' 13 Q And then after these rejalmands, where he bocsae 14 hyotorLcal and very excitable, a£tQv they were over did ha IS then voQelxi his ooaqposure and calxnness? 16 Yes sir. A ) * .•• 17 q , - And appear as though nothing had taken place at aH? 16 A Well, aa far as I am concerned.' 19 Q, Dj you knew what tlua he arrived at your office the 20 xnoxoing of Kovezober 22, 195^? 21 A No sir. 22 Q, - - And you got there about what time? 23 A •, "Xbu n»an what time I arrived at the office that day? 24 4 ; Yea; 25 A We get there about 8:30 in the somLng. JAMES J. MULEADY DAIXA*. TCXAS Copyright © 1964 leyU. SUnebaugh-JaooaUulead, John Newnam Exhibit 3 . Pallas, leJ^aa, Newnam Exhibit No. 3 —Continued 660 56 1 Q Well, I mean what t1.mn durlnc tho noon hour did you 2 oomd in? 3 A It v&a aiouad 12:40, 4 Q, 12i40, and bov do you fix the time? A I £Lx the time be cause I vltnessed ths motorcade at 6 the inters© ctlon of I-Join and /oistin, I believe it vgs the 7 Bouthwest comer across from Scngor-Harrls, and was vith sons 8 of tho other men from the office. After the motorcade passed, 9 then I valked bade to the ofUce. Ihat day there vras an 10 extremely large crovd, end I would say it vould take protably 11 ten or twelve minutes to walk bade. 12 iihen you returned to yxxir office, did you then se3 Jade Q 13 and 8f> have a diacussion with him regarding his ad? 14 A Not regarding the ad. I spoke as usual, and I had 15 soioe'i^ things that I had to get out of the way myself, because 16 we were past the noon deadline. So*^ I went ohead and worked 17 on what I had to get out of the way, and Jade was sitting at 18 my desk. 19 Q, Jade was sitting at your desk? 20 A Yes, sir* 21 Q And that being the week end, it was customary for Jade 22 to oome over and meet the deadline, and prepare his layout for 23 hLa night olub advertiaement that went into your paper, is 24 that Gorreot? 26 A ' That*0 correct sir* JAMES J. MULEADY OALLA*. TKXAa Copyright © 1964 '7M. St inebaugh- James Muleady John Nevmam Exhibit 3 i^allas^ leicaa Newnam Exhibit No. 3—Continued 661 AnA Jack £l?oqaontl7 did thooo ads himself? A Yes air* ' John Newnam Exhibit 3 Newnam Exhibit No. 3 — Continued 664 I i^o President, vas Jaclc*8 emotion &nd excitement, end feollng of eiootlonal inpaot because of the loss of the President, vas It Inoreaslns? A I don't knov vhother It vas Inoreaslng.' I ea sure It iDUSt have been In him or everyone else; Of coarse, about this time ve had complete oonfualcn vLthln our office, due to the fact that a lot of people had heard of this, a lot of adver- tisers heard of this on the radio and on television, and ve had oancellatlona of advertisements £t>r the foUovlng day. Ve vero txylDQ, &ttexi]i>tlng to take care of those, Q £0 you retnember soise of the things that Jack said at thajt time? A I don't recall, no, slri' Q You don't recall* Nov, Jack vent to the phone and callftd his sister, Sva Grent, did ho not? A He did, ^s, sir. Q Jade vas or^^lng at that time, vas he not? A I don't recall vhether Jade vas cx^lns at the time. I didn't pay that sudi attention.' 20 Q ' But he vas upset* Jade colled you over to the telephone 21 vhile he vas talking vlth his sister, Eva Qrant? 22 A He dldr 23 Q And vas Eva carrylsig on and crying too? 24 A Very nudi so* She vas carrying on over the telephone, 26 I don't knov vhether she vas crying or not. She vas JAMES J. MULEADY DAU.AS, TEXAS Copyright © 1964 iByU. Stinebaugh-Jamea Huleady John Newnam Exhibit 3 Dallas, lezaa New NAM Exhibit No. 3—Continued 666 41 1 emotionally upaot* 2 ,;. - . !©• EELLI: I don't think ve cot the last phrasi 3 Eva vhat? Was what? 4 (Read bacic by the Importer "emotionally upaet") Q Did Jack call you over to tho phone aid ask yoa to listei 6 to tha sister, Eva, crying? 7 A ; He did. 8 Q You learned, did you not, that Jack cancellod his ad 9 that afternoon in the Dan an Itoinins Neva that he vas going to 10 run Tor the veek end? 11 A .•; ' Well, he cancelled it or changed it, sir, 12 Q.j; :0r changed it to another? 13 A I don*t knov that it had been changed, no. 14 (^ . But you did leaxn later he dhenged it? 15 A Yes, I dLd.' 16 Q Through sorrow and grief i' 17 A I believe he dianged it to being closed for tho week 18 end, what two days I don't recall. 19 WeU, he thought that his business should be closed tha Q, 20 day and the foHoving day? 21 A 5hat waa the purpose of it, yes siri' ,; 22 I believe you called someone in the composing room to Q 23 take care of that matter, didn't you? • 24 A It's xay understanding, I don't knov who or vhat time iti 2S vaa^' V .-: •.,•.> ^: • 1 , \ JAMES J. MULEADY DALLAS, TEXAS Copyright (D 1964 lay U. St ine baugh- James Muleady John Newnam Exhibit 3 4 DallAB, Texan Newnam Exhibit No. 3—Continued 666 42 1 Q Ybu vould consider Jack tesQexcooental end extrecaly 2 fUAsy About his ad« vould 70a not? 3 A Won, yea* 4 Q He never put anytblzis IxmoorcG. or ofT color In yoor papez' B did be? e A No 8lr« It Is our Job to see that that does x^t 7 happen. 8 Before you learned about the President's assaaaination. Q, 9 Isn't It a fa.ot that Jade vas oanplainLns very bitterly about 10 a full-pas© fi-cl that had appeared In the rinllfffl I-tomiris llevs 11 end etATted off, "Welcona I-lr, President," and actually con- 12 tained a series of insulting questions to President Kennedy? 13 A Jack, I believe, vas either looking at or had discussed 14 tbd ad of some nature. 15 Q I shov you this photocopy and ask you to look at it, 16 and exaolne it* 17 •;:.,, ':^. m» TOHAHILLj Maxic it, please. 18 ••.:.'• >"/• (HiGreupon, the said ins trunsnt 19 vas maiiced as Ifefendant's Exhibit No. 1, for identifica- 20 tion. ) Q Is this a true and corroct copy of the ad that appeared 21 in the lYxlIan ^Soxnin8 Neva on KiTiday, Noveiriber 22nd, 196^, on 22 page 1^, section 1? 23 A It has our date line, the local *- I suppose it is. 24 Q, You see nothing about it that is any different? 26 A Well, I haven't read it, I don't knov. JAMES J. MULEADY OAIXAS, TCXAS Copyright © 1964 • U. Stlnebaugh-Jamea Uuleady. John Newnam Exhibit 3 Dallas, Texas / Newnam Exhibit No. 3— Continued 667 1 Q Vlll yoa look at It, voald you pleas© exemlne It, 2 A It looks Blfflllar — verbatim I don't knov for suro, 3 booauae I ooul(3a*t &ay. 4 MR. TONAHILLj W© have a copy of the orlsiiml B ;, her© among the other pajpers, do you have any objections 6 >.".-'.:.". to that, vo can get the oxl^^Lnal. 7 ;•--:;;•.; > • - -jv :'• MR. ALE2CAKEER: Is that a trus copy? 8 MR. TONAHTTJiX Yes, It la a true copy. We can 9 get the other later. 10 .!.' We offer It into evidence i" Is It received in 11 evl^moe, JUdge? 12 Ko objection, :.,.v^ l:.i c ;' MR. WADE: 13 - ;, . 'vi •>v.:>.i:,*.:i'2HB COORCi All right, it is adcrltted in evidence 14 V r' :;::a.---. •' • (Dsfendar.t»s Exhibit IIo. 1 15 was admitted into evidence. ..-.'... Photostatic copy of the 16 original attadied hereto 17 Q (By Mr. Tonahlll). Mr. Newnam, Jade Ruby was oxtreiasly 18 upset about this ad, was he not? 19 A £e vas cxltical of the paper for accepting it, he was 20 conoezned about it, yes sir.' 21 Q, It*8 a highly insultii^ advertisement to President 22 ICenoedy, la it not? 23 - MR. AI£XAKGEKx Your Honor, that ve have to 24 Object to. 25 .- , /QiS CCXJETt Sustain the objection. JAMES J. HULEAOY OAIXAB. TCXA* Copyright © 1964 Y U. Stinebaugh-Jamo8 Uuleadr John Newnam Exhibit 3 Dallas. Texas Newnam Exhibit No. 3—Continued " . 4if 1 Q Do you consider this as Insultiog? 2 UR* ALEXANIERt Mq olsjGCt to that^ it opealcs for 3 Itsolf 4 THE COUKTj All il^t. •e J, , DLd Jaclc ask you why this n^ was rma in the pc^psr, 6 didn't ha cooplain and oritioize ti\e i)aper, and say that ths 7 paper vas going to bo highly criticized because of tho ad? 8 It's possible that he did, yes sir. A 9 (^ Ud you agree that you did not knov why they accepted 10 it? 11 A I don't recall any particular conversation on that> 12 because in our business the man vho accepts those, accepts 13 it, and that's hia responsibility, 14 Q, lEhe Eallaa ICLmes Herald didn't run this ad, did they? 15 A I don't recall if they did or not, sir. 16 Q DLd you take the ad from this individual vho h^s got 17 his name dovn thex« as Bernard Weissman, or vas it sold by 18 someooe else? 19 A Someone else on the staff handled it. 20 Q, So 6c»Qeone came in and bou^t this ad and paid for it 21 in oaah, did they not? 22 A •' Gb, jea, that type advertising is required to be paid 23 tov:^ * • 24 Q, It vaan't by check? 26 A I don't knoVj air, hov he paid for it.' JAHES J. MULEADY DAIXA*. TEXAS Copyright © 1964 'li. Stinebaugh-James Muleady - Pallas,. tCexaa John Nevmam Exhibit 3 Newnam Exhibit No. 3— Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX- -44 669 Jl2. 1 "- ' 'MR. TOriAHIIij I paas it to th© Jury,' 2 HiE COORTx All rleht. 3 m, ESllli Has it been introduced? 4 m* TQHAHILL: it is in evidence. 6 Q Can jo\x toll us how oony blocks the Texas School Eoolc 6 Depoaitoxy Buildins is from the TXTlnfl (bxning Kevs? llbis is 7 Exhibit, State's Sdilbit Ho. 2 here. Is it about ilve blocics? 8 A Z would say about n.ve blocks, yes sir. I never counte 9 them, Z cannot be exact, but X believe it is five blocks. 10 Y6a have learned and heard of a nuzsber of peculiar Q, 11 things that Jade has done, when he has these einotional states 12 from time to t\xm, where you describe him as being isore U 13 excitable at certain tin^s than others, have you not? 14 A I have heard of such, yes sir. ! 16 Q Some of them get very strong, do they not? 16 A I would: say ao, yea. 17 Q, Now, yow fcalks always wanted Jade to have his ads therei 18 for thd week end, around noon, in order to zoset the deadline, 19 beoausd of his tenqperazoental manner in writing the ads hiroseli 20 and then changing it, and things of that nature? 21 A Well, yea, we would like it first to meet the deadline, 22 and, of course, secondly, we always like to check the copy, 23 whidi ve are required to do.' 24 Q Ha has got there late at various times, and you have 25 had to reprimand hia for being late, haven't you? JAMES J. MUI.EADY Copyright ©l»e* «„, ^-d* UulOftW 1.7 U. Stinebaugh-Jam«tt John Newnam Exhibit 3 Dallas, Texaa Newnam Exhibit No. 3—Continued 670 Jt£ A Yos, I havoi q Tho Friday ad Is Inportant for him, la It not, because ho usually makes Friday nlsht — ho xnade Friday night a free night tor the ladles, did he not? A Biere was a tlzae when ho vaa running the free Friday nights; "Whether this had been discontinued, I don't recall oflhand, but the ueek end business vas important. r, He rarely ever missed putting his ad in the paper him- self on Friday noon, did ho? A Rarely ever"i ^ And you knov, do you not, that Jack habitually stayed up Iftte, find slept late in tho mornings? A. Tta^^^i^i:,.' ,i -nr MR. TCNAHILLj I believe that is all, thank :\ 'r» F^M ; MR* AX£2C/\NIERt That is all, thank you sir;' ': John Newman Exhibit 3 Newnam Exhibit No. 3—Continued 671 Newnam Exhibit No. 4 672 " 'D-3 02 (R«v. 3-3-58) FEDERAL BUREAU OF IKVESTIGATICN C\.IlZ(! ^ t^ ^I^jyJL) n... 11/25/63 ^cL^i\3.-A-; .yLICE REAVES KICIIOLS, nee Small, 8707 Redondo Drive, Dallas, . Texas, telephone DAvis 1- 3687, advised that she is th.e \7idc-.r of GEORC-3 •: . K2RMIT KICKOLS. She advised that she is c^iployed as a secretary for Mr. JOKN E. ^L4ITGRUM, Vice President and T-easurer, Southlcr.d LiTe Insurance Ccaipany,- Southland Center, Dallas, Texas, business telephone Riverside I-I32I. She has been employed there for the past sixteen years. She ^avised that she fomerly associated with JACK LEOK RU3Y, also knoim to her as Jack Leon Rubenstein. She furnished the followir^ inf oriuation regarding thsir relationship end regarding her knowledge of JACK LEON RUBY: She first met RUBY in about 19^1^ when he \ra.z the ii32:ager and CTvner of theSilver Spxir Club in Dallas. They star-ted goin^ together and continued to date each other until about 195^ oi" 1957; when they started drifting apart. They finally stopped seeing each other altogether in about 19p9 or i960. She last saw JACK PUEY during the early spring of 1963 when he was driving down the street in Dallas. They waved to each other; hovrever, since she was walking and he was driving they did not exchange greetings or talk with each other. From the time she met RUBY until about August, 1952, KJL'f operated the Silver Sp\ar Club. In about August, 1952, RUBY sold the club to one MARTIM GIMPLE, who was from Chicago, Illinois, and a , lifelong friend of JACK RUBY. RUBY then went to Chicago snd retirmed to Da3JLas after about six weeks. He then bought the Silver Spur Club back from GIMPLE. 1-IARTIN GIMPLE is no;/ deceased. Sometime in I95I, JACK EJBY bought the Bob Wills Ranch Souse ' Club in Dallas, and he lost this club in the l£.te spring of 1952, inasmuch as it was too eiqpensive to operate. She does not believe that o RUBY had a partner in the operation of either the Silver Spur Club or the Bob Wills Ranch House Club. During the time RUBY operated the Silver Spur Club after she met him, he had no one associated with him by the name of KORI-IA MILLER. She does not know anyone by the ns.se of HORMA MILLER. Jx.No,5355 NICHOLS, A.R. Deposition^ Dallas 4-14-64 >n Il/?;5/63 . Gt Dallf^R. TpyRc; / . Pilo fi T)!., Itk-in^Q ^ ~ ALBERT SAYERS AHD '^ * , ,^ y Special Agont p ^^"^ L.^ SCOT-J: mam , Datp c!;c.:,;;cd l-'L/gp/oS ^ ofthe rhi3 documtfot contains nalther racdaimo,ndai)oaa nor conclueSona of FEl. It t<;'-!i}'a property oi the TS!.-' cad is loaned to Ircuc a^ancy; It and Its coatenta ara actt;t^ b^ dtatrtbutad 9Utaids your a^ancy Nichols (Alice R.) Exhibit No. 5355 673 AS,PLS:m2a 2 Durir^ the time she vas associated vith JACK KUBY, RUBY was friendly with one J02 BOrJDS trho operated the Sky Club on West Commerce Street, Dallas, Texas. She does not "believe that RUBY and BOITOS were ever associates in any business. Sometime in 1953, RUBY bought the Club_ Vegas from ABE WEmSTEIN who operates the Colony Club in Dallas.;; Texas,. Sczietime in 1953, RUBY sold the Silver Spur Club to one ROCKY ROBU'SON who formerly had operated a club on Hone Street in the Dallas area. She does not know whether this club was inside or outside the Dallas City Limits. She met JACK RUBY's sister, EVA GRAMT, for the first time in about 1953 or 195^ when EVA was in Dallas on a visit. It was her understanding that EVA had previously lived in Dallas and had managed one of ruby's clubs for him. EVA came back to Dal las perccanently.in about 1959 or i960 and went to work as the manager of the Club Vegas, operated by JACK RUBY. Other members of JACK RUBY's family, whom she has met, are who resides in Dallas; his brother, EARL RUBY, hisbrot'r.er, SAI-rJSL RUBY, who lives In Detroit, Michigan; and his sister, MARION, who resides in Chicago, Illinois. She also met JACK'S fathe^ who is now deceased. All of these people ii-^Dressed her as being good people, and she knows nothing which would reflect vuafavorably on the character of any of these people. Soma time during 1952 or 1953, JACK RUBY owned for a short time a club knam as Hernando's Hideaway, which was located on Greenville Avenue, Dallas, Texas. In about 1959 or early in i960, Jack Ruby acquired the Carousel Clui in Dallas. It was about that time that she and JACK RUBY parted con^pany Nichols (Auce R.) Exhibit No. 5355— Continued 674 ,S,PLS:maia lermanently. The Carousel Club had previously been lmc\m as the lovereign Cluh and vas operated as a private club, JACK RUSY converted t to a public club and changed the name to the Carousel Club. During the time she vent with hin, JACK RUBY told her several hings about himself and other things she was able to determine throxjgh ,er conversations vith him. These things are as xollows: He was born at Chicago, Illinois, on March 25, 1911* His larents vere either foreign born or were first generation Americans, ne of them having been bom in Poland and the other in Russia, She .oes not knovr vhich one was bom in Poland and vhich one was "bom in Ussia. He was reared in Chicago, Illinois, and the f ciaily was of LOdest economic circumstances. His father was a c£:rpenter. JACK was .evoted to his mother, and althoiogh he cared for his father he was not .early as close to him as he was to his mother. JACK was inconsolable 'or several weeks after the death of his mother. Sometime during his •oung manhood, JACK RUBY went to San Francisco, California, where he as engaged in a punch board business. He told her that in San 'rancisco he met the only girl other than herself whom he would ever lonsider marrying. This girl's name was VIRG-IinA FITZGERALD or ITZSBMONS, .She does not knar if RUBY has ever maintained any kind if contact or correspondence with VIRGUDLA. She does not knc.-r how r.ong he remained in San Francisco, California, After he returned from an Francisco to Chicago, sometime in the late 1930 's, he worked for a abor union in Chicago and was associated in this work with one LEOIT LNU), LEON was later killed. JACK adopted the name LEON for his iddle name, in honor of this person. During World War II, RUBY was in he United States Air Force and worked as a ground crevnnan on an ircraft. Shortly after the war when he was discharged from the Air orce, he went into business with t^ro or three of his brothers in a irm called the Advertising Specialities Coirrpany in Chicago, Illinois, e remained in this business for only a short time and then sold out is interest in the company to his brothers. At that time his ister, EVA, was living in Dallas, Texas, and was operating a night. Nichols (Alice R.) Exhibit No. 5355 —Continued 675 DL W-1639 AS,PLS:m£ua k cIuTd in Dallas. She apparently had sone trouble in the manageinent of this club, and JACK RUBY came to Dallas from Chicago, investing money in the club, and they started operating the club together. She believes that this club, name \;inknown to her, vas re-named the Silver Spur Club after JACK RUBY became associated with it. ALICE REAVES NICHOLS furnished thp following information viu, regard to friends and acquaintances of JACK RUBY which she can recall: MARTDT GBIHCE: Lifelong friend of RUBY who was originally from Chicago, Illinois, and who was associated with RUBY for a short time in the operation of the Silver Sp\ir Club. GIMELE is now deceased. RALPH PAUL: A friend of RUBY of many years standing. PAUL .loaned RUBY $2,500.00 which enabled RUBY to ' purchase the Club Vegas in Dallas, Texas. PAuT. now has the Bull Pen Drive-In Restaurant in Arlington, Texas. PAUL and RUBY apparently first became acquainted throxigh PAUL'S patronage of the Silver Spur Club in Dallas, which RUBY operated. PAUL did not have any financial interest in the 1 Club Vegas or any other business of RUBY's as a result of having loaned him money. He took a note instead as evidence of this debtovred by JACK RUBY. - CECIL and JEAN HAMLBT, husband and irife: These people were friends of JACK RU beginning shortly after he arrived in Dallas, Texas, from Chicago, Illinois, and bought into the Silver Spiir Club. Th occasionally helped him with the Silver Spur when he needed extra help for a special occasion. Their present whereabout are unknown, but CECIL HA14LI1T is believed to be associated with a meat cutter's union o?: a baker's union in Dallas, Tex — Continued Nichols (Alice R.) Exhibit No. 5355 676 3,PLS:mam "LITTLE DADDY" IJELSOU:This man is a Negro entertainer. Da-iiciTig and druicrdjig in a band are his specialities. JACK RUBY managed IffiLSOH for a short tima in ahout 195 6> fi^-»«<«"•»-»•»»» FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION'-' — iCD'^ \ iri'V'tlLi . » ^^ %w- 'MALICE REAVES NICHOLS, 8797 Redondo Drive, Dallas, Texas, telephone DA 1-3687, telephonically advised that on Monday evening, January 13, 1964, a J^r ._ nKN<;nN^, who identified himself as a private investigator employed by the defense .. attorneys for JACK L. RUBY, came to see her and talked to her for about one and one-half hours. This was in relation to her knowledge of JACK L. RUBY and particularly to any knowledge she ^ had of the whereabouts of RUBY on November 22, 1963. She advised that she told Mr, DENSON what she knew and after he had gone that evening and during the next two or three days she recalled the • interview she had had with SAs ALBERT SAYERS and PAUL L. SCOTT on November 25, 1963. She said she believed she had not told SAs SAYERS and SCOTT about a telephonic contact she had had with JACK L. RUBY on November 22, 1963. She furnished the following information with regard to " that telephonic contact: She had been working at her regular job on that date and had gone out to lunch between 1:00 and 2:00 PM. She returned from lunch at about 2:00 PM and was advised that she had received a telephone call from JACK RUBY while she was. out. He had left a telephone number for her to call. At about 2:10 PM she telephoned the number and the man answering sounded to her like a Negro. She ,: C^i\ said for this reason she believes the number was probably at the Carousel Club; however, she does not know this to be a fact. The man who answered the telephone told her that RUBY was on another "'-'':'.. telephone at the time, and she left her number at the office, Riverside 1-1321, and asked the man to have RUBY call her. At about 2:15 PM she received a telephone call from JACK RUBY. This call lasted for only about one minute and RUBY was apparently calling to tell her what a terrible thing he thought it was that President KENNEDY had been assassinated. RUBY again called her on November 22, 1963, at about n 7:30 PM at her home. This was also a very short conversation, and he mentioned to her that he was going to the Synagogue, He also told her that his clubs were closed. She does not know from where RUBY was calling. This is the last contact of any kind she has had with JACK L. RUBY, ^Jx. No. 5356 NICHOLS, A. R. Deposition^ Dallas \ 4-14-6A on l/18/6t Dallas. Texas ph. * PL 44-1639 . . , by Spaciol Agant , ^ ALBERT SAYERS - LAC ,._,.. _^___ 1/18/64 Oat* dlctoUd ThU doeumsDl cootata* nalthsr r*eemB«iidallon« nor oonolttalons el lh« FBU II U Ik* proparlr el Ihe FBI and U loaned te yew aaeneri II and lU eealenla ate nel le be dUlrlbuled ealetde your a«eaer. ^ ^^ "i t .i^ Nichols (Alice R.) Exhibit No. 5356 I 682 DL >m-1639 2 She advised that she had received a subpoena which was issued by the defense to appear in court at Dallas on Monday, January 20, 196U. She advised that the only other contact she has had other than the interview with SA SAYERS and SA SCOTT and the conversation with Mr, DENSON in connection with the JACK RUBY case has been a telephone call from SA LEO L. ROBERTSON of the FBI at Dallas and a telephone call on December 31, 1963, from a newsman of the Associated Press. She did not know that man's name and declined to discuss anything with him. She said when SA ROBERTSON called he asked her if the names of several people were known to her or familiar to her. She recalls that she did not know any of the people whom he named. Nichols (Alice R.) Exhibit No. 5356 —Continued 683 - i ,p t^SS" e .^1 February 10, 1964 Jlr. Leon Jav/orski Attorney at Lav/ Bank of the Scuthv/est Building Iloustoa 2, Taxas Dear Leoa: This v/ill acknowlecJs© receipt of your letter of February 5, 1964 v;IiGro you asked that I relate to you an account of my visit with Lee Ilarvey Osv;ald while ho was ia custody of the City of Dallas police. On Saturday afternoon following the assassination on Friday, Z was contacted by a lav^yer friend of cine v;ho wanted to knov/ whether or not Oswald was boins represented by an attorney at the tirae. I told him that I did not know, but would uaI:o an inquiry into the matter because • it had occurred to mo that soao question nifjht bo raised as to his lack of representation during a critical tiae nr'te-r his arrest. X then contaced a Dallas attorney who is active in the practice of criminal lav7 and asked hin to give me his opinion as to the roQuircmeats of the State law for an appoiatraent of an attorney by the Court. lie advised tue that under the State law, there would to no obligation for the Court to appoint an attorney until the nan had been indicted by a Grand Jury. Since there had been no iadictnont at that tiKO, he thought 'xhoro v;as no obliga- tion for an attorney to be appointed. I then contacted the District .attorney to deteraine whether or not he know if Oswald was then represented by an attorney. Ho advised mo that so far as he know, Oswald T;as not then represented by an attorney, nor had ho made any demand or request that an attorney be appointed to represent him or taade available to him. Nichols - Exhibit No. A — " u^ Nichols (H. Louis) Exhibit A 684 \Vy p Loon Jav/orski ?v!r. Paso 2 I then contacted a Captain on tlio City of Dallas FolicG Force to detoi-aiino v/hotiier or not CGv;alcJ was rop- • resonted by an attorney or v/hothcr ho had mado any domand for an attorney. This Captain, v;ho is an administrative assistant to the Chief oi" Police, advised mo that so far as he knev/, Csv/ald was not thcii represented by an attorney, and that ho had nado no roqi^ost of the Police that an at- torney be made available to him or that ho be periiiitted to call any attorney. Ho ftarthor stated that so far as he know, when Csv/ald appeared before the liasristrato on Friday night, that no request had boon made by Oswald that an attorney be appointed. The Captain fui*ther stated that he understood that efforts v;ere bains tnado by soacone to contact an attorney in New York who might be interested in roprcsentins Oswald. I ashed the Captain to advise mo that if Oswald desired an attorney and did not have one, that the Dallas Ear Association would attor.ipt to see that one was made available to hira. The Captain then ad- vised me that 2 was perfectly v/elcoino to come down and see Osv/ald and detorrsine myself whether or not Oswald desired an attorney. I told the Captain that I had not yet decided whether or not anything needed to be done, but that I would be in touch v;ith hira if I should decide to co'^Q down to the City Kail. After discussing the matter with tv/o or three other " attorneys, I concluded that perhaps it would bo wise if I went down to the City Ilall a.nd see Oswald, and see for myself that he was not boins deprived of his I'islits to an attorney and that if he desired to have the Court or the Bar Association to provide an attorney for him. At about 5:00 or 5:30PI3 Saturday afternoon, I then went to the City Hall and went to the office of the Cliicf of Police. The Chief said that he v;as glad to see rae and he personally took cie to the jail v;here Oswald was located. The Chief intx-oduced mo to Oswald and offered to make avail- able a place for me to talk to Oswald, but I advised hira that the cell would be satisfactory. The Chief then stepped back so as to permit iao to coaverso with Osv/ald without any interference on his part. Nichols (H. Louis) Exhibit A —Continued 744-731 O-64-vol. XX 45 685 ilr.Looa JaworsUi Pago 3 X asRiti introdvicod nysolf to Oswald and aclvisod him that I v;as Proeideat of tho Dallas Ear Acsociation and had cciic up to deteraiao v/hothor or not fco had an attorney to reprsEoat hits or v.hothcr ha do:;ircd tliat tho Dallas Dar Aascclatioa do anythins toward obtaiiiinj aa attoruoy to i-cprecoat Mia. iir. Osv/ald stated that he dosircd to bo rcprcceatcd by aa attorney naT.Qd Johr. Apt or Abt of Ihow York City and asked ks iS I know this lav;- yer. a told him that I did cot. lio then acl'.cd ko LS X knew aay Eallas lav/ysr who was a tr.ctibsr o£ tlio /j^oricaa Civil Liborties Uniou. I told hini I did not. Ila thea stated that ho v/as a Eisabor o:? the Aasricau Civil Liberties Union. I a^ain acltod hie whether he desired that either I or the 2allas Car Association do aaythiiS^ at that tine toward gottir.f: hini an attorney to I'oprosont hiQ. He stated that if hs ccuid not get tho iTov; Yori;: lav/yox' or ±S ho could not get a lav^yer who v.-as a r.ombor oZ tho /iiicricau Civil iibortios Union to represent him, and if there was a~ attorney in Dallas v.'ho believed as ho did, and believed in the things hs beiioved in, and believed in his ianocsaco as niuch as ho could, that he night call on us in the follov/iiig week about getting such a lawyer. I again ashed bin if ha wanted anything dons at this tise. Ee stated that ho did not, but that I r.ight contact hiu during tho xollowing v;eek and ho would let ce know whether or not he desired the Dallas Bar Association to do anything. After satisfying nyself that he kcev; what ho was doing aad that ho did not appear to be in a position of being de- prived of his rights to counsel, and after satisfying myself that ho did not desire that cither I or the Dallas Bar Abbo- ciatioa do anything at that tice, I thea loft. I v.'as with LiT. Osv/ald probably 4 or 5 minutes and sat- isfied nyself that ho appeared to be In a position to know what ho wanted and that ho did not desire cy services or the Bar's services to do anything for him at that tiaa. At no time while I was in with hin did he indicate that he had boon deprived of an opportunity to call a law- yer or to othorv/isG seek legal advice, ncr did he indicate to me in any way that he had been uiistreatod. Ko Eorely stated that ho had been hold incommunicado and didn't know i,v;hat it was all about. lir. Lcoa Jav.'orskl I.ly pcrconal reaction' was that Osv;ald was in full control o-i: his faculties, aud v.-as ucithor boilic;GrGr.t nor did ho r.urjoar to S3i' fric:htonod or subduod v.nd that he did not desire tho Sallaa Ear /^sociation to provide him ccimsol, but folt that if ho did not got a la-rjcr of his ov.'ii choosing to roprGsen.t hin, that an attorney would b3 uiado available if requested hy h±n. 1 trust that this information is sufficient to ansv'^r your in::uiry ro-iarctins this mattor, but if there is anythiac f\irthor that i can do, please lot r.e know. V/ith personal best v/ishcs, I am Very truly yours, H. Louis Nichols Nichols (H. Louis) Exhibit A — Continued 686 ro-ioa (n.«.s4-«t) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 1 n«*. 11/29/63 ROBERT L, NORTON, owner, Pago Club, 4611 Cole, telephone LA 6-5710, advised that at about midnight, Noyeaber 23, 1963, JACK RUBY came by his place and sat at a table near the orchestra. When he observed RUBT, be sat down at the table with him, commented what a terrible thing for the President to have been assassinated, and asked RUBT if bis place was closed. He replied that it was, and after drinking a Coca-Cola, RUBT complimented NORTON on the operation of bis olub, and left. NORTON commented on bow calm EUBT appeared to baye been, daring this visit and RUBT .bad not made any specif io connent about tb« assassination. (^ Robert L. Norton Exhibit 1 11/26/63 Da lias, Texas DL 44-1639 of ,^,>^ Fll. I .„ e , A . JOE B.: ABERNATHT/t Jd « ., j 11/29/63 »y Spaclol , Agent 1 Dot* dictated • rhls doe«ai«nt eoalalaa aallher r*ooaiiD«adallonB nor conelualena oi lh« FBI* tl la (ha prepaHr •! Iba FBI aa4 la leoaad Io roar ovaaeri If and lla saalaala m9 aol la b* dlalrlbalad eolalda year a^aaer. NoBTON Exhibit No. 1 687 : — TRANSLATOR'S NOTE : It is noted that the original letter is written in a conversa- tional and personal vein without regard for proper punctuation. Nueva Gerona, Dec. -25, '63 My Children From the visit of my brothers, I learned about you. It is a consolation to hear that our children are taking very good advantage of the time. It is one more compensa- tion of Divine Providence for our sufferings. It is difficult to write these days in which memories are so vivid and it is almost impossible to coordinate ideas because emotion chokes us. It is at Christmas time when sentiments, through the soitow of absence, draw us closer to our loved ones. The more presents we have the more we are aware of the separation. But the sorrow is not important, my children, and if having you always in my heart and thinking intensely of you, it increases, then blessed be the sorrow Fortunately, we are strong a great faith sustains us with the firmest ! ; hopes of our soon being reunited with the family. Any of the steps that are being taken must prosper. Our desires for peace, to live in the company of our children, stir us to hope a little for comprehension and assistance. At this time of the year, :>0 years ago, Mama and I were an engaged couple in love, full of illusions and faith in the future. "We were enjoying the preparations for the marriage which happily would eternally unite our destinies. We were making at that time many plans, converted since into a full and beautiful reality. We were ecstatically dreaming about the great adventure of love, and you. my children, were the summation of our dreams. We were in ectasy over the prospect of many children, the combination of our flesh, of our blood, of our souls in the purest ideals of parents in bloom. Our de.sires were culminated with — the arrival of such a beautiful group of children exceeding our expectations our aspi- —children extremely gifted with the most brilliant qualities and virtues rations ; honest— intelligent — children who have the love and respect of one another —who adore and devotedly admire their parents — children who work hard, study earnestly —who make sacrifices whenever necessary. In sum, good children, a benefit to the family and to society—loving children who gladly cooperate with one another without com- plaint— who go through joined fraternally life perfect communion with God and in family. Such are our children for whom today and every day in our prayers we humbly thank God. The All Powerful gives you, my children, a glory of a repeated verse of a most beautiful descendency What else in the world can surpass it? ! Nothing that I may know and it is for this reason that I want to sum in that idea my great desire of happiness for each one of my children at this Christmas time. On the anniversary, shower Mama with pretty cards, letters, photos and as much as can make her happy. It occurs to me, Cesar, that you with Mauricio, could give her a good gift. I am not referring now to the marvelous gift of free giving, it is a little grand gift. Since he has so many resources and friends, he could arrange that on the basis of her 30 years, her photo be published in a newspaper section. It would be something to fill us with pride, to do justice to this great wife and mother so that her friends may not forget her. That would do us all good and the reason is plausible. Not always are so many years of marriage completed encompassed with so many chil- dren and grandchildren, nor under the circumstances which surround it. If you do not have a good photo, ask Felo immediately for it. (I imagine some persons pale with envy, among them some neurotic!) I am not able to give any gift, but I pray for (her/your) health and ask for (her/it) so intensely that God is listening to me. Freddie is getting along very well in his studies. It has taken him time and work, but in the end he will graduate from this course. I always believed that he would, but I fear for him for the vei-y hard examinations that await him. Sally also I do — — not know what career and I am grateful to Jim because he wishes, as we, that she continue studying until receiving her doctorate. He would only desire to offer his assistance and inspiration. I received a telegram from Felo explaining the call that he made to Cesar after the visit. I am happy that he calmed you. and I am presently Odio Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 689 all right,and give yoi; my messages. I know that every one has moved tirelessly and that on our negotiations being renewed, we will be in first place. To all, I am thankful for Mama who needs to rest with peace and security. My daughters, in spite of the problemfi that you have, you have found time to move Heaven and earth and our great son with his business relations has succeeded in locating us in a preferable place. I received a letter from Sari on Oct. 27, from Silvia, with her photo in the office —the 3rd that I received ; of the rest I do not know what they look like now —on Nov. 8, from Cesar, Julie and Lolie on Nov. 11. Thus we are able to endure solitude. Thus they help us to wait. Mama telegraphed me, content because she already received many. Remember that you must take a moment and write to one another. It is sad to read that there are times when you do not know about one another "because the telephone is expensive now." Annie needs to adopt a firm resolution for the New Year of involv- ing herself in the responsibilities of the family. We are proud of your conduct in col- lege, in a strange home. We are completely satisfied in having such a good and studious daughter who has perfectly fulfilled her obligations. But you have not kept contact — with your sisters too often unmindful of their problems when you should share them. Therefore, my pretty brunette, you yourself think of the best way to cooperate with them. It would be nice for you to share the time with your brothers and sisters. Would it be possible, love, for you to spend week-ends and vacations at Silvia's house? In this way you could be of great benefit, just as Lolie has been for some time with Julie. You are a complete woman. You understand that you have obligations, in addition to your studies which you are to pursue with eagerness above everything. If what I suggest upsets in any way your school tasks, then you should continue as you are and in no way should you neglect them. Understood? I leave it to your own judgment, but anyway maintain frequent contact with all the family, and watch out for parties and drinking !Silvia, it is difficult to become oriented with you — who are in contact with the atmosphere and who have taken up to now so many intelligent and proper steps. You will continue with that vast experience, determining what ought to be done on each occasion. It is one more reason for pride for us. Before I forget, let me congratiilate you on your fine position. You are worthy of these distinctions. Tell me who this is who sa.vs he is my friend — he careful. I do not have any friend who might be here, through Dallas, so reject his friend shii> until you give me his name. You are alone, without men to protect you and you can be deceived. Grant me, blondie, the additional sacrifice of not going out Wednesda.vs with your girl friends. Stay for a — good time at home. You still are not free you should avoid everything that might affect your good name. Never accept going out with anyone or to the house of anyone if you are not accompanied by your brothers. — That of Guille is still not definite he can — return I am sure that he loves you and adores his children in his way. He was criminally indisposed against you by his neurotic mother. When you have to be under- standing, make yourself interested, but be careful not to exceed. Do not abandon literature. Persevere, write a good book even though it takes you years. Sarita, love, your letters are always interesting to me in that you tell me everything is marvelous. It is the best sedative for calming my anxieties for information concerning the family. Your letters, as those of all your brothers and sisters, fill my life with joy and hopes. They come to be the only light which enters the darkness in which I am living. I regret not having received yet a photo of your Jim. Mama was enchanted by him. I hope that Cesar furnishes you with spending money in sufficient amount. Do not — — scrape please go to your brother. It would please me for the elders to arrange for an allowance. I leave it to your judgment. Tell me as much as you can of your activi- ties. Lolie, beautiful blonde, you do not tell about yourself even though, in spite of being an adolescent, you are already a woman because of the harsh experience through which you have liveONALD R. Gray Oil Portrait Daniel M. Cana^ran Cover Business Manager Richard N. Ober February 14, 1964 Dear Reader: Editorial Advisory Committee Mark Twain said that a d'tference of opinion is what makes The following group of distin- horse races. It is also what makes magazines. guished Americans give the editor If we not disagree with many people on many things did comments and adiHce which are there would be no point in publishing American Opinion. helpful in determining the edito- While if we did not disagree among ourselves, we could have rial policy, contents, and opinions this magazine written by the office boy. (Which he thinks would of this magazine. But no respon- mean a big improvtment.) sibility can be attributed to any The core of this discourse is that, contrary to what you members of this Committee for have recently been told by about half of the press of the United any specific articles, items, or States, American Opinion is not the voice of The John_Bircb conclusions which appear in these Society. It is not even the voice of your editor, except in those Pages. paragraphs which are published over my name. In fact, in con- George W. Armstrong, Jr. nection with the very article in our last issue which caused K. G. Bhntson several dozen assorted editorial writers to have apoplexy, I dis- Laurence E. Bunker agreed with a part of the major premise and with some of the F. Gano Chance conclusions. But I still say, as I did then, that it was a superb Martin J. Condon, III commentary, which we were delighted to present to our readers. Robert B. Dresser Naturally my views are the only completely orthodox ones Charles Edison extant. But in this current issue, from what I have seen at the Wm. J. Grede galley proof stage, there are enough heresies to start a new J. Bracken Lee magazine. For we are not publishing the work of robots, but of Clarence Manion severalof the best informed and most brilliant writers in the N. Floyd McGowin whole realm of American Conservative thought. W. B. McMillan May you, as Milton would have put it, find their opinions LuowiG VON Mises helpful in the building of knowledge. J. Howard Pew J. Nelson Shepherd Sincerely, Robert W. Stoddard Ernest G. Swicert W. H. Wilbur Georgb H. Williamson ^^S^A/^M^ AMERICAN OPINION— is --"jlished monthly except July ! / Robert Weia.. !nc, 395 Concord Ave., Belmont, Massachusetts 02,78 U.S.A. Subscription rates are ten dollars per year in the United States end Canada; twelve dollars elsewhere. Copyright 1964 by Robert Welch, Inc. We use almctt r,o articles except those written to order to fit our specific needs, and can aiiume no responsibility for the return of unsolicited manuscripts. Second Class Postage Paid at Boston, Ma;:. Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 693 — n En JV V-y And Its Aftermath Congressman Martin Dies of Texas the murder of President Kennedy. served seven years as Chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Ac- I tivities, the historic It difficult to understand why is Dies Committee. President Johnson at first approved a Now practicing law Texas Inquiry by the Attorney General in Texas, Congress- of Texas, and then appointed a com- man Dies remaint mission headed by Chief Justice War- one of the most out- ren, and then yielded to Warren's in- spoken foes of the sistence — accompanied by a threat of International Com- resignation — that the Texas Inquiry munist Conspiracy. He is author of the not be held. recent and explosive volume, Martin What G)nstitutional authority is Dies' Story which we recommend. there for such a com- Presidential mission? Why was not the Committee In the first chapter of Theodore on Un-American Activities, or the Roscoe's The Web of Conspiracy , which Senate Internal Security Sub-Committee is the story of the assassination of permitted to conduct the probe? And President Lincoln, Roscoe says that the why did President Johnson ignore the murder of Lincoln by John Wilkes proposal of a close personal friend of Booth could not be concealed by offi- the President and a member of the cial censorship, or the government's Presidential commission, that a bi- juggling of English, or a propaganda partisan Committee of Congress con- treatment, or re-writing of history: duct the investigation? Why was it deemed necessary to establish a com- 'What censorship, phrase-juggling, mission of dubious Constitutional au- propaganda, and the doctoring of thority — to say the least handpicked — history did conceal was the fact that by a President seeking reelection? Booth could not have murdered Lin- Why was Chief Justice Warren ap- coln had not Lincoln been be- pointed chairman of this commission? trayed. . . . As a member of the Supreme Court he The betrayal which permitted a may even be confronted with the ap- - lone gunman to walk into a theater peal of Jack Rubenstein. Though he in the nation's capital and shoot disqualifies himself, his inconsistent down the President was securely roles as Chief Justice of the Supreme hidden away. Court and chairman of the commission may taint the findings of the com- This concealment and distortion of mission, as well as a later decision of 'the truth is a black chapter in our the Supreme Court. It has even been nation's history. Such a thing may be widely reported that Warren is on far more serious in the tragic case of record as opposing the impropriety of MARCH, 1964 1 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 Olivek Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 694 such* a dual role. He did not, however, Communist, even after the evidence refuse the chairmanship. Why choose was conclusive that he was a Com- Warren when there are millions of munist and that, like so many Com- Americans, rightly or wrongly, who do munists, he used the words Marxist and not have confidence in the Chief Justice Communist interchangeably. While it because of his persistent defiance of the istrue that Socialists, Social Democrats, great legal principle of stare decisis (to and other Left-wing groups, as well as stand by decided cases) ? many so-called "Liberals," derive their The doubts expressed here are not social and political philosophy from meant to reflect upon the patriotism Karl Marx, the only groups whose of Justice Warren or the other mem- members label themselves "Marxist" are bers of this commission. under But, Communist. As. a matter of fact the . our system of freedom, Americans have Communists have always contended a right, and it is their duty, to ask such that they are the only true Marxists in questions. the world. After all, Karl Marx did write the Communist Manifesto. II To many uninformed people a Within one hour of the President's Marxist is much different from a Com- death the Dallas police arrested Lee munist. It is therefore extrem.ely im- Harvey Oswald, and the fact that he portant for the "powers that be" to was a pro-Castro s)mpathizer and a conceal or becloud the fact that the "Marxist" was made public. Never- President of the United States was theless the usual "Liberal" spokesmen murdered Communist whose by a blamed the President's death upon record of Communist activity was well "right-wing extremists" and "hate known to our government; whose place mongers." The Voice of America of work on the day of the murder was beamed to the world the indictment well known to our government, and that Dallas was a city "of the extreme who was thus—knowingly—allowed a right-wing movement." Tass, the offi- perfect opportunity to kill the President, cial Russian News Agency said: "Presi- The enforcement of our anti-Com- dent Kennedy of the United States has munist laws and the most elementary been assassinated. His death is blamed precaution could have prevented the on extreme right groups." It reported dastardly act. Our government knew that it got this information from the about Communist Oswald but it did Voice of America- not act as the law required! Even after the news services pub- lished the facts about Oswald — his de- Ill fection to Russia; his affidavit re- Itequally important for the gov- is nouncing American citizenship; his ernment to convince our people that residence in Russia; his record of Com- Oswald was acting on his own initiative munist beliefs and activities, which and not in furtherance of a foreign or were well known to our government domestic conspiracy. (Later I will show and nationally publicized before the why there has been a concerted cam- murder of the President — the spokes- paign to disassociate Oswald from men for and the so-called "Liberals," Communists at home and abroad.) On duped or uninformed, continued to link November twenty-third there was an "right-wing extremists" with "left-wing Associated Press story from Washing- mur- extremists" as responsible for the ton which quoted authorities of the der. Oswald has almost always been State Department as saying, "they have dt:scribed as a "Marxist" and not a no evidence indicating involvement of AMEBdCAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 695 the Soviet Union or any other foreign the 19} S membership card of the power in the assassination of President Communist party, originals of which Kennedy." The Associated Press said were introduced as evidence before on November twenty-third that Oswald the committee: "The undersigned was a "loner" and kept pretty much to declares his allegiance to the program himself. This line was followed many and statutes of the Communist In- times in the so-called "Liberal" news- ternational and of the Communist papers and on television and radio. Party of the United States of Stories appeared in the newspapers America, and agrees to submit to the to the effect that, when Oswald was a discipline of the party and to engage child in New York, a teacher warned actively in its work." The Com- . . . of his mental condition. The "Liberal" munist International is dominated columnists and television commentators by the Russian Communist party continued to emphasize that President Kennedy was the victim of "extreme rightists and hate mongers." Minis- terial associations, even in Dallas, warned against "extremists" and "hate mongers," CORE and NAACP issued a statement that President Kennedy was killed because he championed human rights (meaning -the Civil Rights Pro- gram). Even President Johnson, in his first speech to Congress, warned against "extremists and hate mongers." In fact the vast majority of "Liberal" leaders, in and out of the government, seized upon this opportunity to divert attention from the all important facts that President Kennedy was shot by a Communist,* that thirty years of investigation of Communism by Congress and by other countries proved the basic and ele- mentary fact that every Communist must accept ironclad discipline and obey Vi/hat Communist Oswald saw as he assas- orders, and that Communists never sinated President Kennedy. commit political crimes except in obe- dience to orders of superiors. and Soviet officials, and could not In the first Report issued unanimous- e^istwithout the wholehearted sup- ly by the Dies Committee — composed port of the leaders of the Russian of Democrats, Republicans, "Liberals," Communist party and the financial and conservatives — we found: backing of the Soviet Government. The Communists in the United That Report was submitted to States openly admit their allegiance Congress on January 3, 1939, and a copy to the Communist International at of it went to every member of Congress Moscow, and glory in the fact that and of the Executive Branch of the . they obey all the orders issued from government. It was printed in news- there immediately and implicitly. . . . papers throughout the country and dis- The following statement appears on tributed to public libraries. The quoted MARCH. 1964 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 696 excerpts have been reaffirmed by every newspaper. The Worker'' Committee of Congress or agency of When Oswald was arrested, accord- the Executive Branch which has ever ing to the Associated Press, "he an- investigated Communism. This prin- nounced he wanted for his lawyer John ciple of discipHne (unquestioned execu- Abt of New York, well known for past tion of orders of superiors) has been Communist defendants." demonstrated throughout the world An Associated Press story dated upon too many occasions to enumerate. November twenty-fourth reported that It is true that since our investigation "When Oswald on November 2, 1959 and exposure of Communists in this turned in his American passport to our country the Communist Party stopped Embassy in Moscow he presented his issuing cards and printing other in- affidavit which stated: "I affirm that criminating evidence. But Communism my allegiance is to the Soviet Socialistic is dogmatic. It may change its tactics Republic." And he told American Em- from time to time to deceive the un- bassy officials, "I am a Marxist." wary, but its basic principle of absolute Four years ago, in Oswald's inter- Party discipline, and its objective of view with Johnson, on the Priscilla world conquest, never changes. third floor of Moscow's Hotel Metropole, he referred to the Soviet Government IV as "my government" and he said: Is THKRE any question that Oswald "Even if I am not accepted [for citizen- was a Communist.'' ship] on no account will I go back to The Associated Press in a story from the United States." He said (and this Dallas quoted Dallas Police Chief Jesse was a most significant statement) that Curry as saying that Oswald admitted when he talked to Soviet officials they he was a Communist. Curry added, warned that neither Oswald's wish nor "He didn't try to hide it." In another theirs would determine whether his Associated Press story from Dallas, citizenship application was to be ac- dated November twenty-eighth, Dallas cepted. They said it depended on the Police Chief Curry is quoted as saying: "over-all" political atmosphere at the "He [Oswald] readily admitted he was moment. Meanwhile they offered Os- a Communist. Apparently he was wald the sanctuary of a prolonged stay proud of being a Communist. Last in the U.S.S.R. year Oswald said in New Orleans he The husband of one of Oswald's was not a Communist but a Marxist. landladies (he had a room for his wife But actually Oswald has never drawn in Oak Cliff and a room for himself any distinction between the two." near his job under the name of O. H. District Attorney Henry Wade was Lee) was reported by the Press as say- quoted by the Associated Press as say- ing "Oswald talked Marxism, Marxism, ing, "There was lots of material (in Marxism. Oswald refused to eschew Oswald's room) dealing with Com- violence as a method for achieving munism, such as the Daily Worker ends." [The above statement of Mr. \sic\ and there was even more material Paine was reported by Sid Moody, dealing with Fair Play for Cuba Or- Associated Press newsfeatures writer.] ganization." In the same story Chief There is no dispute about the fact Curry is quoted as saying that, after that when Oswald was in New Orleans Oswald's arrest, photographs were he was active in the Fair Play for Cuba's found "showing him standing at at- local committee, of which he claimed tention with a rifle in one hand and in to be Secretary. (An investigation and the other a copy of the Communist Report by the Senate Internal Security MAEVdCAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 697 Sub-Committee showed conclusively that these groups were largely financed by Castro. FBI Chief J. Edgar Hoover stated that these committees were heavi- ly infiltrated by Communists.) He was r even shown on a national television net- work carrying a pro-Castro placard. In a which appeared in the story / ' ' t Dallas Morning News, Assistant Dis- ' / trict Attorney William F. Alexander is quoted as saying that evidence found in Oswald's Oak Cliff room proves he was "an active worker in the Communist Party." He said the evidence included y letters which a Communist leader in thanked Oswald "for past services." How much more evidence would be .-^ required to prove that Oswald was a Communist? For years the Communist \ Party has not issued membership cards \ or kept written records. During the early years of the Dies Committee we Oswald bragged to Police Chief Jesse Curry about being a Communist. were able to secure membership cards from the various police departments asked by many people: "Will the and other sources. We compiled the Warren commission report the truth?** only Hst of Communists in the United This question does not infer that the The original States that is in existence. members of the commission are lacking list was left with the Committee when in integrity and patriotism. But one I quit Congress in 1945. What hap- columnist pointed out we cannot expect pened to that list I do not know. I do very much from the commission be- know that, since the Communist Party cause no member of the commission discontinued keeping any written rec- has had any investigative experience ords, there is no evidence more con- and the commission must rely upon the clusive of Communist membership or reports of other groups. In a sense each affiliation than the evidence marshalled of these agencies is itself under investi- against Lee Harvey Oswald. gation. This columnist, who writes for a large newspaper chain, said that it is naive to expect these officers to bear In my next article, I hope to discuss witness against themselves or, indeed, the circumstances linking the Soviet each other. He commented that it is Union with Oswald's murder of the not in the nature of bureaucracies to President. Naturally such evidence destroy their carefully nurtured fables miist be circumstantial and based upon of omniscience. the dogmatic pattern of Communist I am not prepared to fully agree with behavior. The Communists are too the columnist. But as I shall explain, clever to leave any trace of connection there are strong and compelling polit'cal with Oswald other than certain cir- reasons, as well as present international cumstances I hope to discuss. factors, to influence this probe and pre- I shall also probable suggest the vent a full disclosure of all of the ugly answer to the question that is being facts that have been camouflaged for MARCH, 1964 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 698 years but have now come to a climax in the general run of humanity. The great the assassination of President Kennedy. difference is that we have a right to ex- It must be remembered that all gov- pect our public officials to put our ernments, including our own, suppress country's real interests above their own or distort facts in the name of national political interests. All of them solemnly security or international policy. All of swear to God that they will subordinate us recall that after our U-2 was shot self in the service of our country. There down over Soviet territory the State have been many glorious periods in our Department issued a statement that this history when the great majority of plane had strayed from its course, into public servants performed their duties Russian territory. When the Com- faithfully in fulfillment of oaths of munists challenged our release about office. These bright periods are be- the plane, our President admitted that coming increasingly less frequent to — it was engaged in observation of mili- the dire peril of our American Republic. tary installations in Russia. It was Will the Warren commission be dif- finally admitted that we had been ferent? On January nineteenth, counsel making these flights for some time. for the Warren commission stated that One must also keep in mind that it the commission will have to consider is not difficult for any Administration the possible timing of its report. What to persuade any Congressional Com- he did not say was that a commission mittee that it must suppress vital facts which will consider the "timing" of its in the interest of national security or report will likely consider the political our international policy. The Congress- effect of that report. men have no way of knowing or dis- covering whether certain facts will VI endanger our national security or inter- In order to overcome the skepticism national policy. They must rely upon of millions of Americans who have the judgment and integrity of the Ad- honest doubts about the Warren com- ministration in power, which pre- mission, the commission must discover sumably has all the necessary facts upon and publish all of the facts about the which a correct judgment must be role of Jack Rubenstein in the assassina- based. tion of President Kennedy. The com- Sometimes the request of an Ad- mission has at its command the services ministration is sincere. Sometimes it is of thousands of intelligence agents and made for political purposes at home, police detectives to uncover the truth which have nothing to do with national about Jack Leon Rubenstein, who in security or international policy. Having 1947 changed his name to Jack Ruby. associated wilh politicians all my life, A private citizen has very limited frankness compels me to confess that facilities. However, have searched I the great majority of them are strongly some of my records and I have come influenced by the all-important con- up with certain interesting facts that sideration of winning elections. Their may have no significance. business, whether Congressman or I have been informed that the name President, is getting elected and staying Rubenstein is a common name among elected. with very rare ex- Politicians, the Jews. There could be several or ceptions, never confess mistakes. An more Jack Rubensteins. According to Administration will do a great deal to my records some of the Rubensteins prevent the exposure of its blunders. spelled their name Rubinstein. At any Perhaps in these human weaknesses rate thereis no question but that in politicians are not much different from 1929 a man by the name of Jack Ruben- AMERJCAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 699 stein was on the Executive Bourd of the fingerprints. But even if these records Young Communist League in the are gone, Ihave furnished one who United States. We have an exhibit will participate in the inquiry with the taken verbatim from the Communist names of known associates of the Com- Daily Wor\er to prove this fact. The mittee's Jack Rubenstein. It is reason- Young Communist League is an or- able to believe that some of these asso- ganization for Communists under ciates are alive. Somewhere there must twenty-one years of age. In 1929 the be a photograph of the Jack Rubenstein Jack Rubenstein, who shot Oswald, who was in the Young Communist would have been approximately nine- League in 1929. teen years of age. The H. Rubinstein and Ann Rubin- According to our records the Jack stein could well be different persons Rubenstein who was a member of the than the H. Rubinstein and Dr. An- Executive Committee or Bureau of the Young Communist League also assisted in the formation of The Revolutionary Youth and the publication Revolu- tionary Age. I have read in news stories that the Jack Rubenstein who shot Oswald has a brother Hyman Rubenstein and a sister named Ann Rubenstein. Our Committee Hearings mention an H. Rubinstein and an Annette Rubinstein and a Leon Rubenstein. - Now all of this may be mere coin- cidences and should be given no probative force until it is proved that the Jack Rubenstein in our records is Y the same person as the Jack Rubenstein who shot Oswald. The names Hyman and Ann are common names and our records only mention an H. Rubinstein 1 .f. and a Dr. Annette Rubinstein. I should mention, however, that in all my seven years of experience in conducting a vig- A Jack Rubenstein was a member of th« Executive Board of the Young Communist League. orous probe I found only one instance of such duplication of names. If the nette Rubinstein mentioned in our Dallas Jack Rubenstein is not the same Hearings. Unless it is proved other- .person as the Jack Rubenstein who wise it must be assumed that they are was a prominent official of the Young different persons; but even if they are, Communist League in 1929, the Warren it Amis ii'ot explain the fact that in commission should produce the real 1929 rher? was a ]ac\ Rubenstein in the Jack Rubenstein or account for his Communist apparatus. Or does it, Mr. whereabouts or death. Justice Warren? There was a story from Chicago that the police records for this period (1929- VII 1930) have disappeared. When I held Even if the Jack Rubenstein who Hearings in Chicago they had extensive shot Oswald is a different person frcrn records of Communists, including their the- Jack Rubenstein who was on the lAAKCH, 1964 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 700 Executive Bureau of the Young Com- considered him mentally sick? munist League in 1929, there are other suspicious circumstances about Ruben- VIII stein's role in the assassination which Who is it that is so anxious to defend must be explained. an obscure operator of a third-rate night According to a story appearing in the club with the record Ruby is reported Dallas Morning News of January to have? twenty-first, Jack Rubenstein went to An Associated Press story sum- Cuba in 1959, about nine months after marized the report of the FBI as con- Castro became that country's Com- cluding that "Lee Oswald was the munist dictator. solitary and unaided assassin and that A report which appeared in the ]acl{ Ruby had no connection with Os- Houston Chronicle December 1, 1963 wald or his deadly plan." And, Victor said: "Ruby (he had changed his name Riesel reported that the White House to Ruby from Rubenstein in 1947) was was desperately "eager to avoid an born Jack Rubenstein in Chicago, where international incident by appearing to he was known to police as a labor or- give the slightest insinuation of an ganizer, a ticket 'scalper' and a international plot to assassinate John gambler with reputed underworld ac- Kennedy." quaintances." Victor Riesel reports in It appears fantastic that this operator his column dated November 30, 1963, of a cheap night club would receive aid that he had discovered that Ruby's night from every influential source. I am now spot at one time was a haunt of Chicago staring at the headline which appeared hoods who came to Dallas to "case it" on the front page of the Houston for a possible "take." He also disclosed Chronicle of January twenty-first. That what he found out about the under- headline reads, " 'Hero-minded' Ruby world connections of Rubenstein when awaits word on Bail." Another story he lived in Chicago. says he cried. Still another reports that Jack Rubenstein has one of the best when he was interviewed on television known and highest-paid lawyers in he "broke down" when he spoke of America, who announced that $100,000 President Kennedy. We are told by in cash had been raised for his client's his friends, and some members of his bail bond. At the hearing to determine family, of his great emotional upheaval whether to grant Rubenstein a bail when he learned of the President's bond, two psychiatrists testified he death. was mentally unbalanced. One was At first the defense fed the propa- Dr. Walter Bromberg, Clinical Director ganda mills the story that his "great of the Pine wood Psychiatric Hospital devotion" to the President produced in County, New York. Westchester temporary insanity which was respon- The other was Dr. Roy Schafer, a psy- sible for his act. This "Une" became chologist on the staff of Yale Univer- ridiculous in the light of the revelation sity. It further appears uncontradicted that he did not view the cavalcade, nor that he cultivated Dallas policemen pay his poll and that he loitered tax, who frequently visited his night club. around the with a gun from the jail If he is mentally sick and has been for time Oswald was imprisoned until he many years, even in his childhood, is it had an opportunity to shoot Oswald. not strange that some friend, some The "temporary insanity" lasted too member of his large family, or some long. policeman would not have said or done Of course Jack Rubenstein should something to indicate that someone not be tried in the Press or by anyone 8 AMEPJCAh! OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX- -46 701 ^^-r-" who must rely upon Press stories. That is not the American way. But when a well-organized campaign, evidently supplied with ample money, is con- ducted to brainwash the American people in advance of the trial we have a duty to raise these honest questions. IX I KNOW THAT the great majority of our people do not realize that there is, and has been since the organization of the Communist Party, a gravely men- acing and remarkably successful Com- munist Conspiracy — in the United States and throughout the world. Despite more than twenty years of in- vestigation and the exposures of the Committee on Un-American Activities, the Internal Security Sub-Committee of the Senate, and the vast quantity of literature including the various public statements of FBI Chief J. Edgar Hoover, our people still do not under- stand or believe that there is a sinister conspiracy seeking the overthrow of our country. ' One major reason is because few people will read or heed the warnings of the Red menace. Another reason is that revelations about this conspiracy are fantastic to the Western mind. Many people stooped to laugh about serious findings of the Dies Committee. Unfortunately, the media of information in this country have too many times discredited grave and truthful revelations as a "publicity stunt." And this general disbelief, care- fullyand shrewdly encouraged by the Communists, has greatly facilitated their conquest of one-third of the world's population. But I have listened to the testimony of many credible former Communists, including the man who was in charge of their espionage for Western Europe (who himself died 'in a Washington hotel under mys- terious circumstances) and I have helped uncover Communist crimes; and MARCH, 1964 when he went to Mexico City ostensibly policeme"^. under such circumstances to apply for a visa to Russia by way of because they know that the chances of Cuba, or he may have gone to Mexico apprehension are grealy increased. A City to arrange for his escape after the police force cannot let the murder of a murder of the President. He may have policeman escape detection and punish- received his orders through one of the ment because all policemen would be numerous Communist couriers who in greater jeopardy. It may be, there- enter and leave this country at will. murder of this policeman fore, that the I believe that the reason Oswald was by Oswald was his death knell. No not granted citizenship, which would Communist is ever permitted to disobey have been of great propaganda value to an order or -ignore any detail of his the Communists, v/as because he was of instructions. far greater value to the Communists as As to the reason Moscow and Castro an American citizen than as a Soviet wanted the liquidation of President citizen. In permitting him to marry a Kennedy, no one will ever know. Of Russian girl, to travel freely in Russia, one thing we may be certain: The a'^d to be issued a work permit, the reason, to the Communists, was urgent. Communists obviously realized that Further speculation is idle. they could use him for some purpose. In my opinion it is unlikely that the He may have been analyzed as useful up Communist conspiracy to kill the Presi- to a point. I have seen cards the Com- dent will ever be fully proved. Even if munists kept of fellow travelers: Each there were evidence linking this crime fellow traveler was carefully studied to a Communist country, it is doubtful and tried and his value to the cause that the evidence would ever be re- stated on the card. leased, for fear of an international "in- I believe that Oswald was acting in cident" or harm to international policy. accordance with the carefully con- On February fourth, Chief Justice- sidered plans of the most successful Warren said that~the commission had conspirators the world has ever seen. heard testimony which might not be Those plans included a method of available in a lifetime. On February escape. What it was may never be fifth, he said that he was being "a little discovered. It may well have been that facetious" in his statement but that the plan included the liquidation of some of the testimony could possibly Oswald. Of course this part of the plan touch on national security matters. It would have been unknown to him. But is therefore probable that the truth will Communists believed that Oswald if the never be known about the murder of would talk under strong pressure the Mr. Kennedy and the reasons Ruben- plan certainly included his death. stein murdered Communist Oswald, One thing is certain — the murder unless patriotic individuals and or- of the officer was not planned. Com- ganizations discover and publish the munists, the same as the criminal truth. underworld, forbid the slaying of WHAT HATH GOD WROUGHT?. H In a friendly exchange of telegrams recently the chairman of the Amherst Town Committee, Carl A. Keyser, edged Governer Nelson Rockefeller in the political game of upmanship. Here are the telegrams: "To Carl Keyser: "Happy and I want you to know that Ass't Atty. Gen. Don Whitehead and Rep. Bob Hahn, both of Stoughton, have agreed to head my Massachusetts campaign. We would deeply appreciate any advice and assistance you can give Don and Bob. Cordially, Nelson A. Rockefeller." "To Nelson A. Rockefeller: "Dottie and I want Happy and you to know that we are already committed to Peggy and Barry. Please advise Don and Bob. Carl A. Keyser." 10 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 703 IT n 9 JWL A J In Dallas [Part ID Revilo P. Oliver is Professor of Classics mind a good deal of information about in the University of Illinois. During Communists, although often as de- World War II, he was Director of Re- tached and unrelated items that seeni search in a secret remote from his quotidian concerns. agency of the War f Even copious and systematic informa- Department. He has tion may remain, so to speak, inert in v\ traveled widely. Dr. ';<^ V the mind until illumined by a percep- Oliver is an acade- tion that carries conviction. mician of interna- tional reputation The Moment Of Truth who has published The perception usually comes from scholarly articles in four languages with- some personal experience or observa- in the pages of twelve learned period- tion. It may be some minor shock, such icals in the United States and Europe. as the falling apple is said to have given Newton; but at that shock a thousand bits of scattered knowledge latent in the Henceforth, no American has an mind arrange themselves into a coherent excuse for illusion. He has had an whole and exhibit a basic truth. ocular demonstration of who and what When I was a youngster, I knew a his enemies arc. And that lesson is man of substance who told me that he repeated every day as his enemies, reck- had almost been enlisted in a Com- lessly exposing themselves, try to carry munist-front operation to release from out original plan in spite of their prison a creature named Mooney, who Comrade Oswald's bungling. had murdered nine persons in Cali- The assassination and its aftermath fornia to show how much he loved must have given to many Americans Humanity. Although moved by the the shock that each of us must some- plausible and pathetic story told him how feel in his own being before he by the Editor of a "literary" periodical, can understand what Communists real- the gentleman was canny enough to ly are and why they are seeking to kill check a few facts and then visit the or enslave him. That understanding headquarters of the organization solici- does not automatically come from mere ting his support. His unannounced visit information* We all carry in our minds gave him his moment of perception. He a great accumulation of items of in- returned with the conviction that he formation, such as that a continent lies had seen specimens of a criminal gang under the ice of Antarctica or that the that was burrowing its way beneath the natives of the Andaman Islands arc foundations of society, bent on under- pygmies, which have no effect on our mining the whole nation. I thought his thinking l)ecause such facts seem ir- alarm preposterous, and, I am afraid, relevant to our own lives. By this time, smiled at it. every literate American has in his own In college, I could not overlook the MARCH, 1964 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 Oliver Exhibit No. 1— Continued 704 young Communists. It required no senior colleague, who had for many great acumen to see that their idealistic years about the "market- pontificated squeakings about "social justice" and place of ideas," and, serene as a seated the "downtrodden" Were mere pretense Buddha, had beamed benignly when to cover the malice and phrenetic Gus Hall and Gordon Hall spoke on rancors seething within them. But I did the campus, "because we need to hear not really understand them until I met, all sides," began to yell like a Comanche during the great Crusade to Save the at a scalp-dance. What had shattered Soviet, a young lawyer who had been academic serenity was the discovery that provided with a direct commission and there was a horrible "hate-sheet" read a "vital" job in Washington to preserve by "Fascist war-mongers" who must be him from the kind of military service "stamped out" or, at least, have their that may be bad for the skin. He ex- teeth kicked in. As for contributors to plained to me the wickedness of mak- the hate-sheet, said the Sakya Muni of ing a and he told me how profit, Academic Freedom, whom I quote "social justice" would come to business- verbatim, "they must be exterminated. men. "We'll shoot them in the belly," Shooting is too good for them." The he said rapturously; "they die longer hate-sheet in question was that mild that way." And the greasy-faced creature and self-consciously "moderate" fort- licked its dry lips. nightly, National Review, and my in- A professional man tells me that his formant believes that the Double Dome moment carne at the time that Ir- would have run amok with a kris, had reproachable Ike, violating the Consti- he even suspected the existence of tution he had sworn to uphold, used American Opinion. As it was, however, the Army to help the Warren Crew get the yells sufficed to make my informant the race war under way. He was talking suddenly realize what makes "Liberals" to a clergyman of the "social gospel" tick — and he compared them to certain variety whose emotional perturbation well wrapped and disguised packages he did not understand until some in- that are occasionally discovered by a discreet exclamations let him see that postal inspector or the baggage master the holy man was inwardly trembling of an airline because they also tick. with eagerness for news that Amer- A New Yorker says that his moment icans had been bayonetted or machine- came early in December when he read gunned on the streets of Little Rock. a column by Walter Lippmann, whom The moment came to another man he had long supposed to be suffering when he was one of a party of four in from nothing more serious than a the bar of a private club. One of the cerebrum bloated with ideals. In that four, an evidently urbane and cultivated column the punctate pundit, wrapping gentleman — who had come to the his feet about his neck in one of his United States as a refugee and had been customary verbal twists, claimed that given a salary and security that he "in a free {sic\ country" criticism of could never have attained in the land "Civil Rights and Russia" is "inherent- whence he came — took a Scotch or two ly subversive." Not content with having too many and began to make it pain- thus exposed himself, Big-Brained Walt fully clear that he regarded Americans went on tactlessly to yowl that because as detestable swine who need to be Oswald scored a bull's-eye, "the only taught, with the toe of a boot, their solace for the nation's [//c] shame and place in One World. grief can come from a Purge" —a purge, A university professor tells me that of course, of the awful Americans who his moment came two years ago when a think they still have a country. Thus, 66 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 705 said my correspondent, was long covert comfort.) And you should reflect that hatred of Americans and dissembled you are financing, directly through taxes blood-lust made manifest for all to see. or contributions of indirectly through It is possible, to be sure, that the quoted the institution's tax-exemption, the phrase was just lipography, and that hatching and "education" of young Lippmann meant something else, such murderers. as forced feeding of castor oil to Amer- You can see the species wherever you icans; but the phrase served to give at look. And with just a little patience and least one of his readers an impulse to dexterity, you can make all but the put together and comprehend many data most hardened and experienced disclose that his mind was holding in suspen- their inner emotions — perhaps in a sion. spate of verbiage, but at least for a moment in an unguarded word or glare Ex uno disce omnes in the eyes; and you will feel like a Oswald was young Communist a swimmer who has glimpsed, six fathoms punk, but, aside from his fortuitous down, the flat, greenish flicker of a notoriety, there was nothing unusual turning shark. about him. You have seen thousands You can see them on television, on like him, and you are paying taxes to the floor of Congress, and in their breed or nourish swarms of them. pulpits; you can read them in the Press. You saw a representative selection of And you need have no doubts. Whether them in that excellent film. Operation they are trying crudely or subtly to use Abolition, which is now more timely the Communists' assassination of Ken- than ever. You saw the veteran crimi- nedy to incite hatred against "right- nals, who should have been deported wing extremists," you can no longer or imprisoned long ago, riot and yell at fancy that they are just ignorant "intel- the House Committee, an official delega- lectuals" with mixed-up ganglia. They tion of the highest governmental au- are lying. They are lying with conscious thority in our nation. You will not calculation. They are lying with mur- have failed to recognize in them rabid derous intent. beasts grown insolent with long im- You cannot mistake them when, in punity. You saw also the rioting swarms your very presence and with breath- of young creatures that had crawled out taking effrontery, they discharge the from the woodwork of the University diseased hatreds and homicidal lusts of Californiaand other tax-supported that fester in their gangrenous little institutions of "higher learning." You minds. had an opportunity to study their hate- From direct observation, you, as an contorted faces. American, can now recognize your en- You can see fledgling Oswalds in the emy and know what he is. And if ever fleshwhenever, as occasionally happens, you are tempted to doubt the evidence a loyal American is permitted to speak of your own eyes and ears, remember on or near a college campus. The young that such monsters are no novelty — "progressives" will be there to jeer and that in the brief span of man's sad and quibble. It will be instructive to observe dolorous history one can find almost how many are deformed in body or innumerable recorded instances of recru- feature as well as mind, and, if you descent savagery and of the frenzied approach near enough, you can see the and exacerbated rage of anthropoid hatred glistening in beady eyes. (For a beasts that cannot bear to be dragged close approach, a handkerchief sprinkled toward civilization and humanity. The with ammonia will minimize the dis- best illustration in a book that I have MAKCH, 1964 67 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 — Continued 706 seen is Louis Zoul's Thugs and Com- Against a conspiracy that makes its de- munists (Public Opinion, Long Island cisions in secret and coordinates with City 4; cf. American Opinion, January, the efficiency of a single organism the 1962, pp. 29-36). movements of its numerous and often The vital thing is that you, as an hidden tentacles, we can oppose only American, realize that you are being the voluntary efforts of individuals who hunted by a feral and stealthy pack. are loosely organized into a large num- And that this is no nightmare, from ber of voluntary organizations, which which you will automatically awaken must, in turn, voluntarily cooperate in a moment, nor yet is it a vision ex- with one another. In these circum- citedby the writers who strove to be stances a secret strategy is impossible, more outre than Poe. That is a reality and we must rely on the rationality and which you must face, if you are to sur- self-control of responsible individuals to vive at all. supply that minimum of unity and coordination without which we could The Time Is Now do nothing against a conspiracy that With the nature of our enemies thus has almost absolute control over its made manifest, and with such unmis- agents through its appeal to their takable indications of their numbers and criminal instincts, their complicity in power, an American who does not past crimes, and, if need be, fear. wilfully close his eyes and drug his Our enemies plan in secret, but they mind can scarcely escape a perception have a standard technique for dealing of tne magnitude and immediacy of with Americans that has long been our peril. This is the year of decision. obvious to every observer. While the We cannot hope for a complete victory vast majority of Americans are kept, this year, but we must end thirty years so far as possible, in a state of ignorant of unvaried retreat and, for a change, complacency and confusion by the lie- advance a little to recover some of the machine, conservative and patriotic or- ground we have lostand to turn the ganizations are destroyed by inciting tide of battle. A mer^ stalemate is them to fight one another and by scarcely possible, and another defeat will paralyzing each one with internal dis- be our last. With another defeat, you sension. That technique has been used and I may not be alive in 1965 — or, if for more than forty years, and, without we are, we may regret it. exception until the past few years, ac- Now that Providence has given us a complished its purpose speedily and last chance, we must use it wisely and infallibly.Its success depended partly well. We must act with courage and upon our enemies' vast financial re determination, and, above all, with a sources and long experience in covert rational and realistic understanding of and subtle manipulation of individuals, our situation. We are fighting against but even more on the fact that loyal enormous, though not insuperable odds, Americans are divided in their personal and we shall need the utmost effort of interests aind beliefs. every American who will work with us. That we Americans are so divided is Our greatest handicap is that we, un- our basic weakness in the present like our enemies, do not have a unified struggle, but it is not one of which we and secret command which plans the need be ashamed. It is the weakness of total strategy without need to disclose men, and hence it is, all societies of free or explain it to anyone, and which in large part, precisely what we arc carries out that strategy by issuing trying to preserve. But our conflicts of orders that are obeyed without question. interest and belief must be candidly ad- 68 AMEKICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 707 mitted and accurately defined, if we are —and that will be over a period of more not to succumb to the manipulations of than a decade—our Constitutional gov- our enemies. ernment that those vermin have all but totally subverted. As a practical impera- The Unity Of Dissension tive, all other purposes, however pas- As Americans, our one bond of sionately important they may be to us effective unity is the American tradi- personally, must be recognized as sec- tion, which is, in its essentials, a severely ondary and even irrelevant, so far as is our first and most practical one. It the cause in which we must unite is urgent duty to take a lesson from our concerned. forefathers, tlie citizens of the tliirteen Our problem, I grant, is far more colonies, who, confronted by over- complex and delicate than that which whelming odds, achieved independence confronted our forefathers. Their of>- because they had the intelligence and ponents were men who frankly and self-control never to lose sight of their honorably declared themselves and dis- real objective; although the colonies dained disguise. Our enemies are secret were deeply divided by opposed eco- criminals whose principal weapon has nomic interests, vehement religious dis- always been deceit, dissimulation, and sensions, and cultural difference that stealthy subversion. But our problem, were, within the ambit of Western surely, is not beyond the power of civilization, comparatively great. The reason. And we should derive a stimu- governing bodies of each colony well lus to use it from the consideration that knew that they could make an ex- we have much more at stake than did tremely advantageous settlement by de- our forefathers. serting the other twelve. And the larger colonies must have been often tempted Who Is The Enemy? to seek opportunities,during the long Every one of us who tries to calculate struggle, of extending their influence our chances of victory must be contin- and power at the expense of ethers in ually astonished, and not infrequently the hope of dominating whatever con- dismayed, by the fantastic fact that what federation might come out of inde- should be our greatest strength is also pendence. our greatest weakness. We have so in- A desperate undertaking, which most dulged our human propensities to senti- political analysts would have pro- mentality and emotionalism, and we nounced impossible a priori for peoples have been so subtly conditioned to fear so sundered by divergent interests and shibboleths and bugaboos, that we creeds, succeeded because — and only squander in acrimonious debate over because — our forefathers were able to conjectures the energies which, if ra- transcend those differences and main- tionally directed, could save us from tain an effective unity for the specific annihilation. and strictly limited purpose of attaining Our enemy is the International Com- political freedom. munist Conspiracy. Of that, there can Our task as Americans today is to be no possible doubt. Every time the attain and maintain an effective unity fetid nest of vermin in Washington for the specific and strictly limited pur- spends our money and (usually) the pose of (a) preserving our national in- lives of American soldiers to enslave dependence by recovering our federal and barbarize another country, that government from the international country is invariably handed over to vermin who have stealthily captured it, Communists — never to Fabian Social- and (b) restoring as rapidly as may be ists, lUuminati, or similar groups. East MARCH, 19€4 69 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 708 Germany, Poland, Czecho-Slovakia, perverts, sadists, and other degenerates. China, Cuba, and the many others are As is known to everyone who has all obviously and notoriously Com- thought about it at all, the continued niunist provinces. And it is perfectly existence of a civilization, like that of obvious that what the nest is preparing a large city, depends on the efficiency for United States, through "civil the of the sewage system that disposes of rights," disarmament, and the like, is a its organic waste: On this level, all that Cotnmtinist regime. the Conspiracy has to do is stop up the Although the Conspiracy is secret, we sewers (which civilized societies seem have learned a great deal about it by naturally disposed to neglect anyway, (a) studying its operations, and (b) since no one likes to think about such utilizing the testimony of defectors unpleasant necessities). By this time, we from the Conspiracy and of our own have all learned not to waste time counter-espionage agents who were able arguing whether a given person, who to penetrate some distance into the or- is knowingly servmg the Conspiracy's ganization. The information thus ob- ends, is a member, an accomplice, a tained is necessarily incomplete, and, hireling, or just a petty criminal who for obvious reasons, it becomes the has been given opportunity and en- more scanty, the nearer we approach couragement. the Conspiracy's inner core; and fails The structure of the main Communist us completely before we reach that core. apparatus in this country is reasonably The information that we have is clear. There is a large number of them sufficient to give us a good working and, so far as is known, they operate knowledge of the general structure of independently of one another. The the Conspiracy, although, of course, official Communist Party, the more con- there are a great many details and pos- cealed "Trotskyite" apparatus, the mili- sibly some very important elements tary and naval espionage rings directed about which we urgently need to know from the various Sovtet embassies, the more. industrial and technological espionage Only the most naive persons today directed from the various consulates, are puzzled by the operations of what and the Secret Police arc all controlled is the lowest level in the Conspiracy directly from Moscow, and are believed (although it includes persons of great to have no contact with one another in social or political prominence). The this country, except that the Secret Conspiracy, engaged in total subversion, Police watch all the others and probably naturally finds and exploits all the supervise the transfer of talented crimi- weaknesses that are inherent in our nals, recruited by the Party, to the luuic society as in all human societies. It secret units. The vast crypto-Com- finds, and uses as its unconscious instru- munist apparatus no longer has large ments, fat-heads and dunces who can cells, such as the one of which the in- be stirred to glutinous sentimentality famous Hiss was a member; and is now or a rancorous resentment of their so organized that no cell has more betters. But it uses above all the crimi- than three members and most of the nal tendencies that always have been criminals know the identity only of the present in all large populations and al- superior from whom they receive orders. ways will be present to the utmost Most observers believe that this opera- verge of the foreseeable future. Every tion is handled by the Secret Police. large aggregation of human beings pro- There are other apparatus and trans- duces, by biological necessity, its sneak- mission belts, some possibly of strategic thieves, robbers, shysters, "intellectuals," importance, which may operate in this 70 AAf£RICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 709 country independently of the ones I his personal appetites and eccentrici- have mentioned. But given the crimi- ties within rather narrow limits, will, nals' success in preventing or halting be tolerated, since he represents a con- all official inquiry into their more clan- siderable investment in publicity; but destine activities in the United States, who can always be fired by the pro- we can only speculate about the chain ducers of the show, and u/ill be elimi- of command in operations that we can- nated the minute that he gets out of not even prot/e to be Communist. Most hand so far as to endanger the success observers would agree in identifying of production. So, who are the pro- some of these by cogent inference from ducers.? copious circumstantial evidence; about The question may be too precipitately others, so little is known that com- asked. Let us state it first in more petent observers differ widely in the simple terms: Who controls Khrush- surmises that they base on admittedly chev and the organizations on which fragmentary indications; and it is quite his power is evidently based.? possible that there are some whose true An experienced and highly qualified nature has not even been suspected. anti-Communist organization, which So far as we know, however, the has probably penetrated as far into the various Bolshevik apparatus are con- Kremlin and its secrets as any human trolled from Moscow. Whenever we beings, summarized its findings in a can trace their organization at all, we report that the Honorable Timothy P. can follow the wires until they disap- Sheehan read to the House of Repre- pear in the massive walls of the Krem- sentatives on August 5, 1957. (You prob- lin. (Ill recent years, some circuits have ably never heard of it. The unanimity been rewired so that the lines from with which daily liepapers ignored this country go to Peking; cf. American sensational, and therefore potentially Opinion, January, 1964, p. 71. That profitable, news, and the extraordinary merely shows that a new exchange has exertions made by prominent sub- been installed for operational con- humans to avert the re-election of Con- venience.) All observers, I believe, gressman Sheehan, serve only, so far would agree that, so far as is known, as prudent and rational Americans are the criminals in our country get their concerned, to validate and confirm the orders, directly or indirectly, from Mos- report he communicated to Congress.) cow. The kernel of this long and circum- Now there are very good reasons for stantial report is that, superior to Krush- believing that die foul brute that is chev and similar administrators, and titular Bess in the Kremlin is merely superior even to the Secret Police, is a subordinate, an executive of limited another and mere select organization powers. So long as the unspeakable of truly international scope, the Com- thing called Stalin was alive, most (but munist Security System (CSS), which not all) observers thought that he was has penetrated and controls even the the real head of the Conspiracy. Events Secret Police. The existence of such an subsequent to the death (or, perhaps, inner organization was first suspected liquidation) of that monster have made by cautious observers in 1939, when the it increasingly apparent to judicious purulent blob of anti-human proto- observers that the organization of the plasm called Nicolai Yezhov was blot- Conspiracy is more complex than was ted out and replaced by the equally once generally supposed that the — loathesome thing called Lavrenti Beria. bloody beast named Khrushchev is like That suspicion, however, remained hy- a "star" in a show on Broadway in that pothetical, in the eyes of most observers, MARCH, 1964 71 OLrvEB Exhibit No. 1 —Oontinued 710 until 1953, when the ease with which that most or all of the real directors of the Beria-thing was in turn Hquidated the Conspiracy Hve outside of Soviet made it apparent to thoughtful analysts territory.There is nothing implausible that the Secret Police, of which Beria in that. Indeed, there never was any had been the absolute and unchallenged real evidence to support the gratuitous master, must be in turn subordinate to assumption that the Conspiracy's head- some inner and even more secret ap- quarters were moved to Russia after the paratus. The CSS, as described in the conquest of that country in 1917. report, precisely corresponds to that more secret apparatus, as its character- Our Secret Enemy istics were deduced by many observers Whatever hypothesis we may form before the report was made public by concerning the inmost structure of the a courageous and patriotic Congressman Communist Conspiracy, we can scarcely at the cost of his own political career. do other than postulate that the supreme Not all qualified observers find the direction must come from some su- report on the Communist Security Sys- preme council which, in all probability, tem as convincing and cogent as I do, has not less than ten nor more than although I know of none who would five hundred members. Whatever we categorically reject it. Since no member may suspect, we do not know who they of the CSS has ever defected and con- are; we do not know where they meet fessed, the intelligence report concern- or how they communicate with one an- ing it can be corroborated only by de- other; we do not even know what duction and inference from numerous, rational end (if any) they propose to scattered, often ambiguous, and some- themselves other than a Satanic domin- times conflicting data. The most that ion over the whole world. We only any observer can say, therefore, is that know that they must be^ phenomenally he accepts the report's description of the intelligent and unutterably evil. CSS as highly probable, since it fits the Now, at the risk of laboring the known pattern of conspiratorial organ- obvious, we cannot too often remind ization and provides the most compre- ourselves that our ultimate enemies are hensive and consistent explanation thus the members of that council, whoever far proposed of the facts which indicate they are, however they work, and what- that the Conspiracy is controlled by ever their secret designs. And the Inter- some inner circle. national Communist Conspiracy by def- But if the CSS is the controlling inition consists of the unknown mem- organism, we have merely pushed the bers of that council and all of the instru- ultimate question one step farther back. mentalities and subordinate organiza- Who controls the CSS? That is the con- tions that they direct. That, of course, must be the darkest spiracy that we must defeat, at least in and most jealously guarded secret of our own country, if we are not to perish all. As was to be expected, the report most miserably at its hands. And I do can only state that "the guiding [i.e. not see how any American who has ob- controlling] members of the Commu- served what has been done to his nation nist Security System" are "fellow travel- in recent years, and thought about it, lers, rich financiers, and secret Com- could disagree with either the definition munists" whose identity is known only or a statement that only the most dedi- to themselves and the few trusted agents cated and united efforts of American through whom they, as an invisible gov- patriots can save us from an imminent ernment, transmit their orders. That and unspeakable horror. description suggests — even implies — No reader of American Opinion, I 72 AtAEVdCAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 711 am sure, will be confused, even for an minded could describe as "Russian" a instant, by the semantic quibble made revolution whose leaders and executives possible by the fact that the Communist had, almost without exception, swarmed Conspiracy is not directed by Com- into Russia a few months before the munists, if by that term we mean take-over, and had been financed from persons who believe in "Marxism." The both Germany and the United States, barbarous jargon and confusing twaddle although those two nations were tech- of "dialectical materialism" has always nically at war with one another. And been what Marx designed it to be, an after the conquest of Russia, it was elaborate deception triply useful for en- clear that the total resources of that listing recruits, stultifying ignorant "in- hapless and more than decimated land tellectuals," and concealing serious pur- were utterly inadequate to finance an poses. On the lower levels of the international conspiracy. And althouf^h Conspiracy, many members of the Com- Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, and the rest munist Party believe, or pretend to be- were, without doubt, viciously cunning lieve, that drivel asan article of faith; monsters, it was extremely improbable while the more sincere and intelligent that they had either the brains or the rack their brains trying to solve a set of time to direct such a conspiracy while quadratic equations that were designed discharging their duties as executives in to be insoluble (and eventually they Russia and, incidentally, clawing at one either defect or get the point and move another's throats. upward to the next level). We may be Long ago, therefore, observers very quite sure, I think, that anyone who reasonably began to look for a con- attains the rank of assistant to an im- spiracy behind the Soviet. The existence mediate subordinate of a branch man- of such an inner or directing conspiracy ager, such as Castro, has left belief in was strongly suggested, as I have said, "Marxism" as far behind him as belief by the known facts in the history of in Santa Claus. So, unless we find an Communism from the time of Marx to adolescent's pleasure in the paradox that the present. It was also indicated by Khrushchev and his kind are not Com- analogy to the structure of criminal con- munists, we must understand that by spiracies known to history. F if example, "Communist" we mean a conscious Weishaupt's Illuminati* \vs.^. organized participant in the International Con- in a set of concentric circles; all mem- spiracy, without reference to his real or bers, even those in the outer circle, were feigned reasons for participation. given the impression that they were "on the inside," but the members of each Some Theories inner circle regarded the members of Ithas long been apparent that the outer circles as neophytes to be prepared Communist Conspiracy was something for more advanced work or as suckers quite different from the picture that its who were useful because they could be members tried to hold before the gen- made to believe anything. The Assas- eral public. It was clear to judicious ob- sins, founded by Hasan-i-Sabbah, were servers a century ago that the degen- similarly organized: The members of erates who publicly headed or secredy the lowest grade (Lasiqs) were fanatical financed the International were not in believers in the Koran and Islam, while the least interested in the "workers" or guru members of the grade next to the the "proletariat" about whose "oppres- top (Da'i i-Kabir) found it difficult to sion" they pretended to snivel. When the Conspiracy effected its first terrr- * See American Opinion, June, 1962, I torial conquest in 1917, only the simple- pp. 33-37. MARCH, 1964 73 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continiied 712 keep a straight face while talking to "Force X" was the inner core of the boobs they considered so stupid as to Communist Conspiracy, but many of believe in Allah or any god. his readers have drawn that inference Since it was clear that there was a from the indications that he has pro- conspiracy inside the outer (Marxist) vided. Mr. de Courcy has described shell, it was only natural that attempts "Force X" as "basically a criminal should be made to identify it. Various group," which "directs the entire drug sincere and thoughtful writers have traffic of the world," high-class prostitu- positively identified the inner conspira- tion and homosexual rings, and many cy as composed of one of the following: other forms of profitable crime. But he "Force X," illuminati, Satanists, "Bilder- says that it "has made use of Com- bergers," Zionists, Pharisees, Khazars, munism," that "its power far exceeds Fabian Socialists, International Bankers, that of Communism," that "in Russia, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, or a gang of Trotsky, Zhdanov, Beria, and Liivinov" otherwise unidentified "messianic ma- were its agents (as were, in Germany, terialists." Good and authentic evidence "both Ludendorff and Himmler"), and drawn from the present or the recent that its executive head, a homosexual past can be assembled to support each and necrophilic degenerate, gave advice of these identifications, and it is easy to to Stalin and now advises both Khrush- argue convincingly that each is right, chev and Mao Tse-tung. Mr. de Courcy provided that we can assume an extra- concludes that "the alliance between this ordinary degree of stupidity or short- person and Communism is very close, sighted venality in some or all of the although there are fundamental clashes others. And although some of the of aim. Neither seems to mind this at groups I have listed overlap others, or present." may do so, it is clear that all of them It is at that point that I have my." cannot be the one central conspiracy. doubts. As Communist agents and Furthermore, we cannot assume that fuddled fops are forever telling us, there are a number of rrjajor conspira- there is only one world — and, what is cies independent of one another but all worse, it is less than 25,000 miles in blithely working together today with no circumference at the equator. It is thought of the morrow. much, much too small two con- for Let me take as my example the spiracies of "One Worlders," and if, "Force X," recently brought into prom- perchance, there are two, the heads of- inence by Kenneth de Courcy in his both must have realized long ago that excellent and generally reliable Intel- the more successful they were, the ligence Digest. And let me hasten to sooner one would have to liquidate the add that, although I feel confident that other to escape liquidation itself. I could I recognize the entity to which Mr. de believe that "Force X" is subordinate to Courcy refers, I do not pretend to have the International Communist Conspira- at my disposal the mass of information cy, and I could believe that "Force X" and documentation that has presumably is the inner core of that Conspiracy and been assembled by Mr. de Courcy's so controls Khrushchev and similar private intelligence organization, which vermin, but I cannot believe that two largely consists of former members of wolves are peacefully munching one British Military Intelligence now sta- rabbit. tioned throughout the world as repre- sentatives of British industries or in Less Blood-Pressure, Please similar capacities. If not two, then not three or five or Mr. de Courcy has not said that ten. What we have said about "Force X" 74 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Oontinued 713 will apply, mutatis mutandis, to any were mistaken or because they were other conspiratorial group that we may supplied with false- information (a com- consider in connection with the Com- mon trick in all intelligence work) or munists. Let us, therefore, draw some because they or Mr. de Courcy have conclusions. some interest in deceiving us. Thus On the basis of the information "Force X," as described to us, may not supplied by Mr. de Courcy, and on the exist at all. basis of our own deductions concerning Now we may differ widely in the per- the probable structure of the Conspiracy, centage of probability that we assign to we recognize that "Force X" may be: each of those five explanations, and it (1) An inner circle, comparable to, will certainly do no harm to argue about if not identical with, the Communist them for the purpose of clarifying our Security System. own thinking and of eliciting from one (2) A formal arm of the Conspiracy, another such incidental information as comparable to the official Communist each of us may have that is relevant to Party in the United States or the Secret the subject. But obviously, no one of the Police, and like them controlled from five hypotheses is certainly right or above. certainly wrong. And I trust that no one (3) A large and highly organized will place an extraordinary strain on his gang of racketeers, who, like all or- neuro-vascular system to shout at the dinary criminals, "take the cash and let rest of us. the credit go," intent only on loot today Serious argument is futile when what and loot tomorrow, but with no long- we obviously heed is more evidence. range plans or cosmocratic ambitions. That evidence is available. A great deal Such a gang would naturally be en- must now be in the possession of couraged and protected by the Com- various police forces throughout the munists, and would naturally perform United States and either has not been services for cash fees or in exchange for assembled or has been suppressed by protection and opportunities. (Note that political pressures. A vast amount of China is now the principal source of evidence was concealed when the gang the narcotics commonly used by drug- around Mr. Macmillan succeeded in addicts, so that one of the most profit- covering up most of the Profumo able branches of the gang's business scandals, but the greater part of it is depends on supplies from Communist still there. In the opinion of the best This, however, would make territory.) informed observers, a thorough inves- the gang, for all practical purposes, a tigation of the activities of Bobbie Baker, Communist subsidiary or instrumental- and his high-ranking accomplices in the ity, and it could not be "more powerful" Administration, would uncover a vast than its employers. cesspool of corruption necessarily con- Those are, I think, the three most nected with the one in England, because probable explanations, but others are some in vice and crime specialists possible, viz.: shuttle back and forth from one coun- (4) That our inferences about the try to the other. Probably any one of Conspiracy are incorrect, and that the hundreds of known nests of drug- "Force X" and the Communists really addicts, perverts, and degenerates in are independent in the sense that neither Washington (or others found in any controls the other. other large city) would expose a trail (5) That the data supplied by Mr. de that could be followed back to the lair Courcy are wrong, in part or in their of some criminal syndicate or subsidiary entirety, either because his informants thereof. MARCH, 1964 75 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Oontinued 714 What "Force X" is or is not can be two teams would win a ball game on ascertained only by systematic and re- the following day. I could not but lentless inquiryconducted with govern- v/onder whether they imagined that mental powers; and while it might take their exertions would, through some a long time for such an investigation to sympathetic or methectic magic, affect attain certainty, every bit of additional the result. evidence would enable us to calculate probabilities more accurately. In the Less Heat, More Light meantime, you can't prove anything by No display of temper will change his- waving your arms. torical facts. The hair-pulling matches in which some Americans engage Horrid Hypotheses to vindicate their favorite hypotheses So far as I can see, all hypotheses re- would be comic, if they were not tragic garding conspiracies that may be asso- in their consequences: personal antag- ciated with the Communist Conspiracy onisms, disruption of conservative or- are in the same status as views about ganizations, and, quite possibly, defeat "Force X." The evidence comes, of and death for all of us. I should suppose course, from other sources, is of varying that even the most perfervid champions degrees of probability, can be reconciled of antithetical hypotheses would realize, with more or less difficulty with what if they paused to think about it for a we know or think we can deduce with moment, that the only way to settle some assurance concerning the Com- their argument — to say nothing of ac- munists, and is susceptible to different complishing something for their coun- ranges of alternative interpretations. In try — is to unite in demanding of their some cases religious belief will strongly state and federal governments the kind affect our estimates: A formidable and of searching and unremitting inquiry powerful conspiracy of Satanists will into the Communist Conspiracy that seem likely only to those who believe in we have urgently needed for fifty years a Devil having the power to intervene, and have never had. directly or indirectly, in the affairs of Few Americans realize that all of our this world. In others, a recognition of uncertainties and the futile quarrels that adverse interests or inveterate antip- they occasion are directly caused by the athies is very likely to color our opin- International Communist Conspiracy's ions.But we are certainly dealing with success in stifling, frustrating, or pre- hypotheses based on inadequate data. venting official investigation. A raid, The most probable cannot be reason- carried outby the State of jointly ably stated as a certainty; the least prob- Michigan and Federal officers in 1922 able cannot reasonably be pronounced on the headquarters of a nest of homici- an impossibility. To prove or disprove dal vermin disclosed evidence that anything, we shall need many more should have scared every sober Amer- facts than we now have at our disposal. ican as much as though a bullet had I confess that I cannot understand whizzed past his ear. But the net result the extraordinary amount of passion was that a gang of subversives, headed that can be generated by violent as- by the malodorous Felix Frankfurter, severations and hysterical denunciations stopped in 1925 all Federal investigation of theses that can be established or re- of the enemies in our midst.Nothing futed only by ascertaining Quar-facts. more was done by our Federal govern- rels on this subject remind me of two ment, despite its obligation under the men whom I once saw engage in a Constitution to protect us from foreign violent brawl to determine which of enemies, until a great American, Martin 76 AMERICAN OPINION Olpver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 715 — Dies of Texas, established what became liepapers, you never hear of it. For the House Committee on Un-American example, in December of 1963, Texas Activities (see his new book, Martin Rangers, on the authority of the Attor- Dies' Story; The Bookmailer, New ney General of Texas, raided a criminal York; $5.00). Mr. Dies' committee ac- hang-out and discovered documents complished a great deal, despite open that astonished even seasoned observers. opposition and clandestine harassment The membership of the Communist from the great War Criminal in the Party in Texas had been officially es- White House and the scabrous louts timated at about five hundrctd. That with which that being surrounded him- was obviously too low, but few were self. prepared for the discovery of a list In the Senate, a valiant beginning containing the names of ten thousand was made by Senator McCarthy, but international criminals, members or we all know what happened to him; conscious accomplices of the Conspira- and we know that all inquiry into cy, residing in Texas. As I write, it is treason in Washington was effectively rumored that Earl Warren, if not soon stopped when Eisenhower issued his impeached and brought to trial, will un-Constitutional order to protect the make heroic efforts to suppress that list, vicious vermin lodged in our govern- acting either in his capacity as Boss of ment from interrogation. the Warren Crew in the Supreme Both the House and the Senate Com- Court Building or in his capacity as mittees have done the best that they chairman of Johnson's special Commit- could, I believe, in the face of enormous tee to Conceal. Whether those efforts pressures from the criminals who had succeed will depend on you, my fellow captured the Treasury of the United Americans, States and could use our money to prevent us from learning about our Armageddon blood-thirsty enemies. But such in- I — venture to suggest even to urge quiries were necessarily limited to the that we Americans suspend our vexa- peripheral and superficial. tious disputaillerie about conjectures Some years ago. Judge Robert Morris, and concentrate our united efforts on one of the most experienced and obtaining the basic information that staunch of all Congressional investiga- we need, not merely to settle our argu- no tors, in a radio broadcast, stated that ments, but to survive. Congressional committee had ever been I do not see how there can be a able to investigate subversion and trea- f^asonable objection to that policy, with son effectively, because the investiga- which even the most incensed should tion, whenever it began to approach the concur. We are prudent men and we higher echelons of the Conspiracy, was therefore know that every prudent man stopped by "irresistible pressures." knows that — if it happens that he is Obviously, what we Americans must unjustly accused of a crime of which he do, if we wish to go on living, is to is innocent —he cannot destroy public generate pressures which make those documents and sandbag witnesses on that once seemed "irresistible" seem as their way to the Grand Jury without puny as the waving of a cockroach's arousing some grave suspicions that he antennae. may be less innocent than a new-born The information is there and avail- lamb on the hills of Arcadia. able in vast quantities. It is constantly We must obtain all possible informa- and almost automatically coming to tion quickly, and we must be willing, light; the trouble is that, if you read the as reasonable and practical men, to pay MARCH, 1964 77 Oliver Exhibit No. 1 —Continued 716 the requisite price for it, recognizing our enemies have exposed themselves that the primary responsibility for the in acts of open treason to make inquiry demoralization of American life falls into their motives or antecedents a on you and me, who were too timid, too waste of time. And time is what we busy, or too lazy to do anything about cannot afford to waste: We have so little it during the past fifty years. That of it left. means, specifically, that we must be It is entirely possible that we may prepared to condone and forget venial never be able to identify the head of the sins in public life — anything, that is, octopus, but that will matter little, if we which is short of treason. We could all can lop off enough of its tentacles. argue for a year, vehemently and incon- I know that apocalyptic visions of clusively, about what should be a gen- cosmic disaster are usually born of dis- eral standard of sexual morality. I hope ordered imaginations. I know that men that we would agree, however, that that tend always to exaggerate the impor- standard, however much we prize it, tance of their own countries and hence is less important than our lives and of the crises of the moment. But look as those of our children. That question is I will, I cannot see a future for West- vital, if, as informed sources in Wash- ern civilization anywhere in the world, ington assert, fifty-five Senators — a if the United States is lost. What an- majority, mind you — are now kept in other race may do in five hundred or a line by blackmail made possible by thousand or ten thousand years is highly-trained and expert "call girls" beyond our prevision; but the fate of operating, at the expense of American human civilization as we know it de- taxpayers, in collaboration with secret pends, I fear, on what we do this year. agents who installed concealed micro- This is not Valley Forge: Had our phones and hidden cameras, including forefathers lost, they would have re- infra-red equipment. That, it is said, verted to the status of British colonies explains votes for "disarmament" and and still have enjoyed a good fortune also explains the massive resistance that greater than that of most of the rest of would be opposed to any proposal for civilized mankind. This is Chalons or an open and searching investigation. In Tours, and the issue, quite simply, is the present think it not too crisis, I whether the world's most hated minori- much to ask of even Mrs. Grundy that ty, the Christian West, shall be forever she look the other way for a while. obliterated by the infinite barbarism of In the meantime, we certainly know irrational hordes. Or, to put it in enough about our enemies to attack ef- less general terms, the issue is whether fectively the Conspiracy on fronts that your children will regret having been can absorb all our energies. Enough of born. D a | SAINTED RELICS. G A vase for flowers, purchased for $27. brought the highest price among 250 items sold at an auction conducted at Valkill. for many years the home of the late Mr,. rrankhn D. Roo-evelt. A "nice crowd" gathered at the cottage off Route 9G in Hyde Park where Items, once used by Mrs. Roosevelt and her many husband, the late President Roosevelt, had '""'on^'- Wilson Proper. Two old trunks, carved with the "ifon°" initial. h.U.R. u i. brought $2.50 each and a third was- sold for $}. Mr. Proper said a rosewood chair used by the President "didn't bring $10," and went un^ld. He al«> sa.d he kept a tray that Mrs. Roosevelt had used in bed. "I couldn't get an offer of $2 for it." he observed. The sale brought less thar. $)00. "I just don't understand what happened," Proper said. I had as many as 300 people standing out there on the lawn of the cottage at one time or another but they practically laughed in —From the Poughkeepsie Journal my face when I started asking reasonable prices. 78 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 1—Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 47 717 AMERICAN OPINION An Informal Review FEBRUARY, 1964 $1.00 A RE-ISSUE Oliver Exhibit No. 2 718 ^ \. Volume VII — dumber 2 Editor RoBtRT Welch CONTENTS — FEBRUARY, 1964 Maiiaf^ing Editor Civil Rights .... Honorable John Rousselot 1 Scott Stanlky, J». They Paused To Remark 12 Associjtc Editors Marxmanship In Dallas . . . Reviio P. Oliver 13 Slobodan M. Draskovic.h Berlin Blockade .... Charles Callan Tansill 29 Principles Of Economics .... Francis X. Gannon Hans Sennholz 39 Reviio p. Oliver E. Merrill Root If You Want Straight .... It Robert Welch 41 Correction Please ! ! 47 Contrihiifing Editors Coi.M Brogan On The Arts Moffitt Jack Moffitl 53 Mldford Evans The War Honorable Martin Dies, Sr. 57 Wlstbrook Pegler Damon Runyon Westbrook Peeler 65 Charles Callan Tansill Hans Sennholz An Indictment Taylor Caldwell 73 Editorial Assistant A Review Of The News Francis X. Gannon . . 81 Marian Probert Welch To The Editors 93 Circulation Poetry edited by E. Merrill Root 95 Donald R. Gray Busivesi Manager January 20, 1964 Richard N. Ober Dear Reader: Editorial The new covers of our msgazine will feature a series of Adiisory Committee paintings of great Americans. And naturally, we begin with The following group of distin- General Douglas MacArthur. guished Americans give the editor new cover this month you will find an article by Inside the comments and advice which are the Hon. Martin Dies; the first o( many he will be writing for helfiful in determining the edito- us, about the war on, and by, the anti-Communists of America. rial and opinions policy, contents, As both a participant and a target in that war for almost thirty of this magazine. no rrspon- Biit years, Mr. Dies is notably qualified for the task. tibility can be attributed to any members of this Committee for You will not want to miss the instructive discussion of the "Civil Rights" issue, by the Hon. John H. Rousselot; the superb any specific articles, items, or conclusions which appear in commentary. On The Auassination, by Dr. Reviio P. Oliver; or these pages. the real story of the Berlin Blockade, by the great historian. Dr. Charles Callan Tansill. George W. Armstrong, Jr. We predict you will not want to stop until you have read K. G. Bentson '^'estbrook Taylor Caldwell, Dr. Francis X. Gannon, Pcglcr, Laurence E. Bunker F. Gang Chance Hans Sennholz, Jack Moffit, and — perhaps, even your Editor. All of this to be rounded out by the regular staiT features, from Martin J. Condon, III Correction Please!! to Bullets and Confetti. Rooert B. Dresser In an age where the objects of reverence are gradually di- Charles Edison \Vm. J. Grede minishing, it is our firm purpose to be selective in the material which appears inside the attractive covers. For we plan to make J. Bracken Lee Clarence ^^ANION American Opinion the most authoritative magazine, here or abroad, on the real significance of contemporary events, trends, N. Floyd McGotin and personalities which are determining our future. \V. B. McMillan LUDVIG VON MiSES With purpose in mind, we continue to welcome your this Howard Pew praise, your and your criticisms. And new subscriptions interest, J. J.Nelson Shepherd for those still unaware of — but searching for American — Robert W. Stoddard Opinion. Ernest G. Swicert Sincerely, W. H. Wilbur GEoacE H. Williamson o^JcaZ-AJzA^ AA\ERICAN OPINION— is published monthly except July by Robert V/elch, Inc., 395 Concord Ave., Belmont, Massachusetts 02173 U. S. A. Subscriplion rates are ten dollars per year in the United Stotes and Canada; twelve dollars elsewhere. Copyright 1964 by Robert Welch, Inc. We use olmost no articles except thosa written to order to fit our specific needs, and can assume no responsibility for the return of unsolicited manuscripts. Second Class Postage Paid at Boston, Mass. Glivor Exhibit No. 2 Oliveb Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 719 n uvj^LjuyLi- In Dallas RevUo P. Oliver is Professor of Classics had been trained for three years in in the University of Uiinois. During Russia, the Communist agent and his World War II, he was Director of Re- Communist wife were i)rought to the search in a secret United States, in open vi(;lation of agency of the War '. American law, by our Oimmunist- Department. He has dominatcd Slate Department. traveled widely. Dr. On his arrival in this country, Oswald Oliver is an acade- took up his duties as an agent of the mician of interna- Conspiracy, spying on anti-Communist tional reputation Cuban refugees, serving as an agitator who has published ' ~ '"-^ • for "Fair Play for Cuba,"and participat- scholarly articles in four languages with- ing in some of the many other forms of in the pages of twelve learned period- subversion that flourish openly in de- icals in the United States and Europe. fiance of law through the connivance of the Attorney General, Robert F. Kennedy. In April of 1963, he was sent ^ We all know what happened in to Dallas, where he tried to murder Dallas on the twenty -second of Novem- General Edwin Walker. The failure imperative that we understand •~ber. It is does not reflect on the assassin's pro- it. fessional training: General Walker Lee Harvey Oswald was a young happened to turn his head at the instant punk who defected to the Soviet, taking the shot was fired. According to a story with him the operational codes of the that has been neither confirmed nor Marine Corps and such other secrets as denied officially at the time that I a (Icdgli ng traitor had been able to steal write, Oswald was arrested as a suspect, while in military service. He not only but was released through the personal •forfeited his American citizenship by intervention of Robert F, Kennedy, and his acts, but also officially repudiated it all inquiry into the attempted assas- American Embassy sination of a great American was under oath in the in Moscow. He was then trained in halted .t sabotage, terrorism, and guerrilla war- In November, Oswald was sent back fare (including accurate shooting from to Dallas, where a job in a suitably 'cTmbush) in the well-known school for located building had hccn arranged for international criminals near Minsk, and him. He shot the President of the while there he married the daughter of United States from ambush, left the a colonel in the Soviet military es- building undetected, and would have pionage system (and possibly also in escaped to Mexico but for some mis- the Secret Police).* In 1962, after he chance. He vvas stopped for questioning * If you missed the detail about Mrs. Oswald's Decem- t Ri.printcd in The Councilor (22 8 Oil Sc Ga father, sec the Cviisrasioiial Record for lildg., Shrcvcport, La.). December 20, 196>. ber 4, page 2221 5. FEBRUARY, 1964 13 Olivor Exhibit No. 2 Oliver Exhibit No. 2— Continued 720 by a vigilant policeman, whom he killed had been made by closed that pay-ofTs in a moment of panic. Arrested and Jakob Leon Rubenstein, alias Ruby, and identified, he, despite his training, vvas other members of the underworlcl that so vain as photographs to pose for pander to human vice and folly. It is while triumphantly giving the Com- by no means impossible that crypto- munists' clcnchcd-fist salute; he asked Communists have been planted in that for a noted Communist attorney, who police force. But paint the picture as had been a mcnilier of the little 0)m- dark as you will, it remains indisputa- munist cell that included the noted bly true that, at the very least, there traitor, Alger Hiss; and he began to tell were enough honest and patriotic men contradictory stories. He was according- on that police force to bring about the ly liquidated before he could make a arrest of Oswald, to identify him, and complete confession. to prevent both his escape and his There are many other significant assassination "while trying to escape." data, but I have stated the essentials. It required a gunman from outside to They arc known to you. do the job. The fact that they are known to you It is quite true that the Communist should give you— if you are an Amer- Conspiracy, through the management ican—hope and courage. You will need of great broadcasting systems and news both. agencies, through the many criminals Obviously, something went wrong in lodged in the Press, and through many Dallas— in our favor, this time. The indirect pressures (such as allocation of best laid schemes o' mice and men advertising and harassment by bureaus gang aft a-gley— and so do schemes of of the federal government), has a con- Communists, sometimes. The identifica- trol over our channels of communica- tion of the murderer was a near-miracle. tion that seems to us, in our moments If not the result of divine intervention, of discouragement, virtually lotsl. As it was the result of a series of coin- was to be expected, a few moments cidences of the same order as might after the shot was fired in Dallas, the enable a bum with a dollar in his vermin, probably in obedience to gen- pocket to enter a casino in Reno and eral or specific orders issued in advance emerge with a thousand. of the event, began to screech out their It is highly significant that, after diseased hatred of the American people, I Oswald was arrested, you learned the and, long after the facts were known to facts. That proves that the Communist everyone, went on mechanically repeat- Conspiracy's control of the United mg, like defective phonograph records, States is not yet complete. the same vicious lies about the "radical I firmly believe that in our nation as right" until fresh orders reached them a whole the overwhelming majority of from headquarters. But the significant local policemen, whom we shamefully fact is that there were enough honest neglect and take for granted, are brave Am.erican newsmen, in the United and honorable Americans. But I know States and abroad, to make it impossible nothing of the police in Dallas. It is to conceal the Conspiracy's connection quite possible that, as is usual in our with the bungled assassination. That is large cities, they are subject to great very encouraging. pressures from a corrupt municipal gov- ernment. I shall not be greatly aston- The vShow And The Sorrow ished if, in the course of the Con- All that could be done at the moment spiracy's frantic efTorts to confuse us to obccurc the Communists' mischance with irrelevancies, it should be dis- was to stage an elaborate spectacle with 14 AMERICAN OPINION Oliveb Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 721 all the technical virtuosity seen in a dicates either a defect in the constitu- performance of Aida in the Baths of tion (which may grant excessive powers Caracalla or the amphitheatre at Vero- or provide inadequate checks) or the na, supplemented with the cruder de- fatuity of citizens who tolerate abuses vices of Hollywood's expert vulgarians. for which constitutional remedies are Every effort was made to incite an orgy available. In either case, the abuse is of bathos and irrationality. For the primarily evidence of a weakness that most part, the good sense of the Amer- the society must learn to correct legally. ican people frustr-ated the efTorts of the And if the society cannot learn from showmen. But we need to consider the experience, there is no hope for it any- and objectively. facts clearly way. There are two basic reasons why the (2) Regardless of office, political American people were shocked and violence is always shocking and a warn- grieved by the assassination. Neither has anything to do with either the per- sonal character of the victim or the identity of the assassin. (1) The victim was the President of the United States; he was therefore symbolically representative of the na- tion, and his assassination was a form of armed attack on our country. The alarm, indignation, and sorrow excited by such an attack made on American soil should have no relation to either the private or public character of the person who was President. To put the matter as clearly as possible, the crime would have been every bit as horrible and shocking, had it (per impossibile) been absolutely certain that on the very next day the President would be im- peached, tried, convicted, removed from and executed for his own crimes. office, That would be tomorrow, and would not aflect today, when he is still legally da mortuis nil nisi . . . ? invested with the dignity of his high office. ing of impending collapse. The Roman All decent men feel instinctively that Republic was doomed soon as it as the order, the stability, the preservation became clear that wealthy and the of civilized society requires that the of- high-born renegade, Clodius, could send ficers whom that society has appointed his gangsters into the streets with Im- in conformity with its own constitution pimity; when the decent people of be inviolate so long as they are clothed Rome tried to protect chemselves by with the dignity of office, however mis- hiring gai\:;sters of their own under taken and unfortunate their appoint- Milo, that was not an answer: It was a ment :nav have been. So long as the confession of defeat. The assassination officer has not outlawed himself by of Kennedy, quite apart from consid- violent usurpation, any misuse of the eration of the office that he held, was powers legally bestowed upon him in- an act of violence both deplorable and FEDRUARY, If 64 \ 15 Olivor Erihib't Mo. 2 Oliver Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 722 ominous —as ominous as the violence is seldom cited on the continent of excited by the infamous Martin Luther Europe). Reference books usually at- King and other criminals engaged in tribute it to one of the Seven Sages, inciting race war with the approval and Chilo, who lived in the early part of even, it is said, the active co-operation the Sixth Century B.C.; but that is a of the White House. It was as deplor- mistake. In his precepts for prudent able and ominous as the violence of the conduct, roughly similar to Benjamin uniformed goons (protected by reluc- Franklin's, Chilo urges us not to malign tant and ashamed soldiers) whom Ken- the dead {ton tet}ine\ota me \a\olo- nedy, in open violation of the American getn). He was interested in our own Constitution, sent into Oxford, Missis- integrity, not the comfort or reputation sippi, to kick into submission American of the deceased, and the precept is on citizens, whom the late Mr. Kennedy a par with his advice that we should had come to regard as his subjects. not utter idle threats in a quarrel be- Such lawlessness, regardless of the cause that is womanish. identity of the perpetrators or their pro- Whatever the source of the phrase so fessed motives, is as alarming as the glibly and frequently quoted these days, outbreak of a fire in a house; and if not the notion that one should speak only speedily extinguished, will destroy the good of the departed is compounded of whole social order. That is a fact that various sentiments. It undoubtedly had allconservatives know, tor it is they its origin in man's deep-seated and who read the lessons of human history primitive fear of the dead a fear lest — and understand how hard it is to build the Manes may somehow hear what we and how easy it is to destroy — how say and, if angered, use their mysterious perishable and precious are the moral powers to work harm upon us. That restraints and the habitual observance residual awe is supplemented by our of them by which civilization shelters infinite pity for the dead, and our hope itself from the feral barbarism that is that after life's fitful fever they sleep latent in all peoples. That is the very well. Pity is reinforced by the strong fact that "'Liberal intellectuals" try to i.nipulse toward generosity and kind- conceal with the contorted sophistries ness although biologically inex- that, that they are perpetually devising to plicable, found in all decent men. is justifyas "social good" or "progress" And that kindness is directed in part the murders and massacres that secretly toward the living, for even the most fascinate and excite them. That is why odious and despicable beings may be conservatives try to conserve what survived by someone who grieves for "Liberals" seek to destroy. them. Even Nero had one concubine The foregoing are two good and suf- who loved him. Acte wept for him and ficient reasons why Americans v/ere saw to it that his body was decently shocked and grieved by the assassina- buried. And we honor her for it. tion in Dallas. Let them suffice us. It is The dictum has become a fixed con- imperative that we do not permit our- vention.We all know the story of the selves to be confused at this critical time old men in a rural community who by a twisted proverb and residual super- attend the funeral of one of their con- stition. temporaries. Having known the old reprobate all his life, they stand silently Taboo in a circle, tongue-tied, uneasily shuf- The maxim, de m ortins nil nisi fling their feet, eyeing one another and bonum, has long been a favorite dictum searching their memories, until one is of Anglo-Saxons (for some reason, it at last able to say, "Well, when Jake 16 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 723 was a boy, he was migluy nigh the best speller in the sixth grade." As an expression of courtesy and per- sonal kindness, the dictum is unexcep- tionable. In and history it is politics utter nonsense — and everyone knows that it is. Were the dictum taken se- riously, history would be impossible, for no page of it can be written without recording the follies and the crimes of the dead. Not even the sentim.cntal innocents who now, under expert stimulation, weep over the "martyred President" the dictum de believe in mortuis — at have yet to hear least, I one of them utter a lament for Adolf Hitler, although Adolf is certainly as defunct as Jack and therefore presuma- bly as much entitled to post-mortem consideration. Taboos are for barbarians, who in- dulge in tribal howling and gashing of cheeks and breast whenever a big chief CouT.-.-.jnisf Oswald troined in .V.inslc dies or an eclipse portends the end of improvised both to befuddle the suckers the world. We are a civilized race. on election day in 1962 and to provide for months a cover for the several In memoriam aeternam steady and rapid transfer of Soviet Rational men will understand that, troo[>s and Soviet weapons to Cuba for far from sobbing over the deceased or eventual use against us. He is the John lying to placate his vengeful ghost, it F. Kennedy who installed and main- behooves us to speak of him with com- tained in power the unspeakable Yar- plete candor and historical objectivity, molinsky-McNamara gang in the Pen- jack was not sanctified by a bullet. tagon to demoralize and subvert our The departed Kennedy is the John F. armed forces and to sabotage our Kennedy who procured his election by military installations and ecjuipment. peddling boob-bait to the suckers, in- He is the John F. Kennedy who, by cluding a cynical pledge to destroy the shameless intimidation, bribery, and Communist base in Cuba. He is the blackmail, induced weaklings in Con- John F. Kennedy with whose blessing gress to approve treasonable acts de- and support the Central Iiuelligcnce signed to disarm us and to make us the Agency staged a fake "invasion" of helpless prey of the afTilkitcd criminals Cuba designed to strengtlien our mortal and savages of the "United Nations." enemies there and to disgrace us — I have mentioned but a few of the disgrace us not merely by ignominious hundred reasvons why we shall never failure, but by the inhuman crime of forget John F. Kennedy. So long as having lured brave men into a trap there Americans, his memory arc and sent them to suffering and death. will be cherished with distaste. If the He is the John F. Kennedy who, in United States is saved by the desperate close collaboration with Klirushchev, exertions of patriots, we may have a staged the phoney "embargo" that was future of true greatness and glory— but lUnRVARY, 1964 17 I Clivor Exhibit No. 2 Oliver Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 724 we shall never forgei how near we were vious, and thatwhen an unmistakable to destruction in the year 1963. total crisis at last made it politically feasible, And if the international vermin succeed Kennedy would carry out a sudden and in completing their occupation of our dramatic volte-jace, sweep the scum out country, Americans will remember of Washington, and rally the forces of Kennedy while :hcy live, and will curse the great majority of loyal a!id patriotic him as they face the firing squads or Americans. toil in a brutish degradation that leaves 1 wish I Cf)uld believe that. It is true no hope for anything but a speedy that the late Senator McCarthy praised death. young Kennedy, but although the Sena- tor was a great American whose mem- Three Explanations ory we must all revere, he was not pre- Why was Kennedy murdered by the lernaturally gifted: He could have been young Bolshevik? With a little imagina- either by a smooth-talking deceived tion, it is easy to excogitate numerous hypocrite have been greater men (as explanations that are not absolutely im- than he in the past) or mistaken in his possible. For example: (a) Oswald was estimate of a person who, although a "madman" who acted all alone just then sincere in his allegiance to what to get his name in the papers; (b) then seemed to be the winning side, Oswald was a poor shot who was really later thought it expedient to change trying to kill Governor Connally or sides. It is also true that Kennedy said Mrs. Kennedy and hit the President by some fine things in speeches delivered mistake; (c) the person killed was not just before his death, but those state- Kennedy but a double, and the real ments did not significantly differ from Kennedy is now a guest aboard a the pro- American flourishes normally "flying saucer" on which he is heroical- used as seasoning in the boob-bait ly negotiating with Martians or Satur- manufactured by Salinger's technicians nians to Save the World. With a little during the past three years. time and a fairly wide reading in If Kennedy did entertain laudable romantic fiction, anyone can think of designs, he cannot have kept them en- sixty or seventy fantasies as good or tirely in petto;he must have disclosed better than those that I have mentioned. them to a few persons, perhaps includ- On the evidence, however, and with ing his father, in whom he had con- consideration of human probabilities, fidence. Andhe did, the time for if there are only three explanations that those persons to give evidence is now, are not preposterous, viz.: while there is still a chance to clear the (1) That Kennedy was executed by reputation of the deceased. the Communist Conspiracy because he (2) That the assassination was the was planning turn American. For to result of one of the rifts that not in- this comforting hypothesis there is no frec]uently within the manage- occur evidence now known. Ever since Jan- ment of the Communist Conspiracy, uary, 1961, some hopeful Americans whose satraps sometimes liquidate one have maintained that Jack was a another without defecting from the conservative at heart, that he delib- Conspiracy, just as Persian satraps, such erately packed his administration with as Tissaphcrnes and Pharnabazus, made Schlesingers, Rostows, and Yarmolins- war on one another without revolting kys so that these v/ould bring our nation or intending to revolt against the King so near to disaster that even the stupid- of Kings. est "Liberal," not in the employ of the Now it was generally suspected for Cx)nspiracy, could not overlook the ob- some time before the assassination that 18 AMERICAN OPINION Olivee Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 725 Khrushchev and Kennedy were plan- even the slightest study of Communism, ning to stage another show to bam- would be merely commonplace and boozle the American suckers just before normal. the election next November. According The rabid rats of Bolshevism devour to this plan, a fake "revolt" against — one another and no one knows that Castro would be enacted by the Com- better than the rats themselves. Almost munist second team, which has long all of the Conspiracy's most famous been kept in reserve for such an event- — murderers Trotsky, Zinoviev (Apfel- uality. (Cf. American Opinion, March, baum), Kirov (Kostrikov), Kamenev 1962, p. ii.) The "democratic revolu- (Rosenfeld), Yezhov, Beria, and a tion" was to be headed by a Com- hundred others, possibly including munist agent who differed from Fidel Stalin — were murdered by their insati- only in being less hairy and less well ably blood-thirsty confederates. Indeed, known to Americans, so that the it is a general rule that only accident or New Yorf^ Tit7jes, the State Depart- disease can save a Communist "leader" ment, the Central Intelligence Agency, from assassination or execution by other and our other domestic enemies could Communists as soon as his usefulness to swear once again that the vicious crimi- the Conspiracy is ended or his liquida- nal was an "agrarian reformer," an tion will provide an oppoiLunicy for "anti-Qjmmunist," and the "George useful propaganda. Washington of Cuba." (It is confidently Cornered rats will fight for their believed in conspiratorial circles that lives. Castro, of course, knew of the the dumb brutes in the United States planned "revolution," and if the will never learn — until it is much too denouement was correctly foreseen by late.) American observers, he also knew that, What is not certain is the script for whatever solemn pledges may have the third act of the comedy. Most (but been given him by his superiors, he not all) informed observers believe would not survive. It is possible, there- that this performance in Cuba was to fore, that Fidel arranged the assassina- accomplish two things: (a) the re- tion of Jack in the hope of averting, or election of Kennedy and most of his postponing, his own. Now that at least stooges in Congress, which would, of Oswald is silenced and superiors v/ho course, be impossible without some sea- gave him his orders are unidentified, it sonably contrived and major "crisis"; may never be possible completely to dis- and (b) the endlessly repeated and trite prove that hypothesis, although there device of making the tax-paying serfs are a number of considerations that in the United States, who have financed weigh against it. every important Communist conquest We should note, also, that a few since 1917, work to provision and forti- American observers believed that the fy another conquest under the pretext Communist scenario had a difTerent that by so doing they in some mys- third act. According to their forecast, terious way "fight Communism." the Communist second team was to Now, if those observers are correct in stage an indecisive "revolt" against the their projections, the scenario called for firstteam. Jack, pretending to carry out the "success" of the "democratic revo- after four years the pledge that he lution." And that would involve, if the made to get himself elected, would play was to be convincing, the liquida- commit the United States to support tif)nof Fidel and a few of his more the second team. At the scheduled mo- notorious accomplices. And that, as is ment on the eve of elections Nick well known to everyone who has made would "intervene" and yell about a FEBRUARY, 1964 I 19 I OUyor Eidiibit No. 2 Oliver Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 726 I "nuclear holocaust," thus producing a nothing. He may, for example, have "crisis" which would call for a "bi- missed connections with some agent of partisan" cancellation of the election. the Ojnspiracy who was to transport The gang in the Pentagon, hypocritical- him to the airport, and it may be sig- ly wringing its greasy hands, would nificant that, when observed on the claim that we were even weaker than street, he was walking directly toward its concerted sabotage of our defenses the apartment of the Jakob Rubcnstein had in fact made us by lh.it time. That (alias Jack Ruby) who later silenced would sufTice to set craven "intellec- him. tuals"and neurotic females to running Two objections to this explanation through our streets howling for "peace" are commonly raised, but neither is and the "United Nations." After much cogent. tension, a great "statesmanlike solution" The first is the assumption that, if the would be found: surrender of our sov- International Q)nspiracy had planned ereignty and weapons to an "interna- the assassination, there would have been tional" body, with the Russians agree- no slip-up. That is absurd. The tiegen- ing to do likewise. Then the savages in crates are not Supermen. Their agents the "international police force" would make blunders all the time — blunders move and the glorious and long- in, that could destroy whole segments of awaited butchery of the American the apparatus, if the Conspiracy did boobs would get under way. not have so many criminals planted in Those who make this prognosis sup- communications and politics to cover port it by pointing out that the Con- up the blunders and to paralyze the spiracy has already fallen far behind its normal reactions of a healthy society. It schedule for the United States, and that would take pages even to list the mis- the slow but ever increasing awakening takes that the Conspiracy's agents, in- of the American people from their hyp- cluding their branch manager, Castro, notic lethargy makes it necessary for have made in the course of the Cuban the Conspiracy to adopt drastic and operation. For that matter, a potentially precipitate measures now, if it is not serious and quite unnecessary mistake to fail utterly. If those observers are was made when the Communist Party's right, then interference by Castro is official publication. The Worker, yelled excluded, for the plan itself would for the appointment of Earl Warren to guarantee his safety until the United "investigate" the assassination before States had been abolished. the appointment was made —or at least, (3) That the Conspiracy ordered the before the appointment was disclosed assassination as part of systematic prep- to the public. Nothing was gained by aration for a domestic take-over. If so, that mistake in timing, which serves the plan, of course, was to place the only to give away the whole show. blame on the "right-wing extremists" The second argument is that the Con- (if I may use the Bolsheviks' code-word spiracy could not have wanted to elimi- for informed and loyal Americans), and nate Kennedy, who was doing so much we may be sure that a v/hole train of for it. But that is a miscalculation. For "clues" had been carefully planted to one thing, the job was not being done lead or point in that direction as soon on schedule. A few measures had been as Oswald was safe in Mexico. These forced through Congress, but not, for preparations were rendered useless when example, what is called "Civil Rights," Oswald was, through some mischance, a very vital part of the vermin's prepa- arrested —probably in consequence of rations for the final take-over. Virtually I some slip-up of which we as yet know nothing was done to speed up national 20 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 727 bankruptcy and the total economic col- at war, which, unless thoroughly rotted, lapse that is doubtless scheduled to ac- can rely on the powerful cohesive force company the subjugation of the Amer- of patriotism. To be sure, a frenzied ican people. The Congress was, on the hatred of mankind and human civiliza- whole, the most American Congress tion is an even more powerful cohesive that we have had for many years, and force among the born 13olsheviks who it blocked the measures most cunningly direct and manage the Conspiracy, and designed to destroy the nation. It was it has been able to excite race hatred not the fault of any one man, to be among certain "minorities" and so ac- sure, but the record for 1963 was, for all quire some fanatical shock-troops; but practical purposes, a stalemate. Our for a very large part of the work of "Liberals," always impatient for open subversion it must rely on low-grade dictatorship and terrorism, were begin- criminals, opportunistic collaborators, ning to feel some of them frustrated; were screeching in our more prominent daily, weekly, and monthly liepapers about the "standpatism" of Congress and hinting that that nasty relic of the Constitution must be abolished in the interests of "effective democracy." Others were beginning to lose con- fidence. That is what the Conspiracy cannot afTord. It is already sadly behind sched- ule. Of course, its secret plans, like the identity of its master strategists, are un- disclosed, but at the end of 1958 some competent observers, after the most careful and painstaking study of all available indications, concluded that 1963 was the year scheduled for tlie effective capture of theUnited States. And those analysts— without exception, so far as I know — still believe that they were right; they believe that the 0)m- munist schedule was retarded and part- is this Communist Rubenstein? ly disrupted by the awakening of the American people and their growing and stupid employees. And its power of awareness of the Communist Conspira- discipline over those groups largely de- cy and its designs. It is known from pends on their complete confidence that past operations that the Oinspiracy's the Conspiracy's triumph is inevitable. plans always call for constantly (Careful observers were aware of the accelerated subversion in the fmal phase feeling of crisis in cons[)iritorial circles of a conquest, and so even a stalemate before the assassination. In June of is,from the standpoint of our enemies, 1963, an experienced American military an alarming tactical failure. They can- man m.ide a careful analysis of the situ- not afford many more without sufTering ;ition at that time, and in his highly total defeat. confidential report concluded, on the The Conspiracy, we must remember, basis of indications in Commimist and does not have the resilience of a nation crypto-Comiuunist sources, that the FRBRUAKY, 1964 21 Oliver Ei^hibit No. 2 Olivbtb Exhibit No. 2 — Continued 728 Conspiracy's schedule called for a Bobby Baker; and a hundred other major incident to create national shook boils of corruption (including, it is before ThutilyS^iving. Taylor Caldwell, rumored, some murders thus far suc- who c(>mhincs feminine sensitivity with cessfully disguised as "accidental artistic perception, sensed in the tone deaths") are ready to burst at the of Communist and "Liberal" publica- slightest pressure. Only the ir>ost des- tions a direction that made the assas- perate exertions, involving the personal sination of Kennedy "very probable"— intervention of two of the most prom- and she said so in an explicit warning inent members of the Administration, published on October thirty-first and have kept the lid — precariously and written about a week earlier. Other ob- temporarily — c;n the modernized badger servers, who saw that Communist plans game that is operated (at the taxpayers' called for some sensational act of vio- expense and partly on government lence in the United States naturally con- property) to entrap and subject to sidered the assassination of Kennedy blackmail members of Congress not re- (possibly in a crash of his airplane so sponsive to bribery and other routine arranged as to show unmistakable sabo- pressures from the Administration. tage) as one of the expedients that the There are rumors that an even more Conspiracy might adopt, although they filthy scandal, involving both sadistic did not, so far as I know, regard it as sexual perversions and the use of gov- the tnost likely at the present juncture. ernmental powers for the importation But, aside from the Conspiracy's ob- and distribution of hallucinatory nar- vious need for some drastic means of cotics, is simmering dangerously near checking the growth of American pa- to the surface. I am told that docu- triotism, there is the consideration that mentary evidence of secret shipments of Kennedy was rapidly becoming a po- secret munitions of war to the Soviet litical liability. Despite the best efTorts by the Administration in treasonable of the lie-machines, it was clear that his defiance of law is available in a place pfjpularitywas diminishing so rapidly in which it is secure from both burglary that some observers doubted whether and bribery. Even so minor a matter as even the most cunningly contrived and the recent exposure of "scientists" in timed "crisis" could procure his re-elec- the employ of the Department of tion.His conduct was exciting ever in- Health, Education and Welfare as hav- creasing disgust even among the credu- ing forged spcctrographic data for use lous; and v/hat was worse, the vast cess- in a smear-job on an American physi- pool in Washington was beginning to cian disquieted some theretofore com- leak badly. placent and somnolent citizens. For The bandits of the New Frontier, of aught I know to the contrary, the as- whom Billic Sol Estes was but a puny sassination of Kennedy may have been specim.en, had operated a little too open- necessary as the only means of avoid- ly. had not been possible entirely to It ing, even long deferring, national or conceal the theft of wheat worth $32 scandals so flagrant as to shock the million in a single raid or the probable whole of our brainwashed and hyp- "disappearance" of another $109 million notized populace back to sanity. in the same way. It had not been pos- In summary, then, there is not a sible completely to suppress the TFX single indication that the Conspiracy scandal, which would incense the entire did not plan and carry out the assassina- nation if it were really exposed; it had tion of Kennedy. On the other hand, not been possible to prevent the public there is evidence which very strongly from finding out sotnethiag about little suggests that it did. 22 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 729 First of all, there is the suspicious Qjurt must be shrewd enough not to celerity which the hroadcasting with make allegations without some reason agency sardonically called Voice of to believe 'hat he will be able to produce America, Tass in Moscow, Earl War- some shreds of "evidence" to support ren, and many publicists and politicians them. noted for their services to the Conspira- It seems that preparations had been cy in the past, began to screech that the made for rioting and murder through- murder was the work of "right-wing out the country. Americans known to extremists" almost as soon as the shot be opponents of the Qjiispiracy, includ- was fired. One is justified in asking ing General Walker, prominent mem- whether the leaders of this chorus went bers of the John Birch Society, and into soon as they received action as leaders of othcc conservative organiza- news that they were expecting. Or, if tions, began to receive threats of death they did not know the precise moment, by telephone from creatures who some- were they not prepared in advance for hov/ knew that Kennedy was dead news of that kind? Is it conceivable before he reached the hospital. In many that the same story would have oc- communities, mobs com[x>sed of the curred independently to so many dif- dregs of humanity and openly propos- ferent however intense their persons, ing to burn the homes and murder the hatred of the American people, or that families of known conservatives, began they would have dared to announce to form in the evening, though in as as fact a malicious conjecture, if they obedience to orders that had not been had no assurance that their statements countermanded to all sectors. I do not would be confirmed by "evidence" to suggest that the local vermin were en- be discovered subsequently? Not even trusted with a fore-knowledge of pre- the most addle-patcd emulator of Sher- cisely what was to happen in Dallas, lock Holmes would pretend to identify a murderer without a single clue. But the screechers went much farther than that: What they said was the precise opposite of what was suggested by the first indications available (the arrest of a Negro, reported on the radio while the Presidential automobile was start- ing for the hospital) — an indication which, although it later proved to be wrong, no prudent person could have disregarded at the time, unless he had assurance, from some source that he trusted, that contrary indications would soon be produced. Persons whose business it is to tamper with the news arc naturally accustomed to lying, but even they do not lightly take the risk of being caught promptly in a particularly improbable and of- fensive lie. The case of Earl Warren is even more puzzling. No one would suspect him of concern for truth, but surely the Chief Justice of the Supreme Offieor J. D. Tippitt FEBRUARY, 1964 J 23 Oliv ,'i' 11j L'hiblt ITo. ? OuvEB EJxHiBiT No. 2 —Continued ISO but it seems very likely that they had You, who read these lines, may owe been prepared to respond to a signal your life or at least your liberty to the and told what to do when the signal vigilance and sagacity of Officer J. D. came. Tippit, the policeman who stopped It is easy to see what could have Oswald on the street and was mur- happened, had everything gone smooth- dered by the (>)nspiracy's well- trained ly in Dallas. There coultl have been a but not infallible agent. complete brctak-down of law and order There is other evidence, including everywhere. The numerous vermin that dehnite indications that certain persons, have been living for years in ill-con- whom observers have long regarded as cealed anticipation of the glorious day members or at least auxiliaries of the when they will be able to hack Amer- Conspiracy, knew days in advance that icans to pieces and drag bodies through something was. going to happen to the streets, could have "spontaneously" Kennedy in Dallas. But when one con- started looting, burning, and murder- siders the enormous gains that the Con- ing. In many places they could have spiracy could have reaped from the mustered strength beyond the control assassination, had it been carried out of the police, and even if checked and without mishap, and when one remem- arrested, they could have claimed, like bers that the Conspiracy had an urgent Rubenstein, that they had been "crazed" and even desperate need of precisely by "sorrow" for martyred Jack, and, of such an event, one cannot avoid the course, unlimited funds would have conclusion that the weight of probability been available for legal defense. V/hat liesoverwhelmingly on the side of the is more, the great nest of traitors in view that the murder was arranged by Washington could have begun a pseudo- the Conspiracy as a strategic operation. legal reign of terror, for which the infamous "Sedition Trial" in Washing- Be Ye Not Comforted ton in 1944 was obviously a small-scale Many Americans, while giving thanks and preoiature pilot-study. In an at- for their deliverance, strangely assume mosphere of hysteria, maintained by that the Communists' mishap in Dallas the anti-American television, radio, and will give us a respite from danger of at Press, all the leading American patriots least several months. On the contrary, could have been dragged in chains to the danger is greater than ever, for the Washington. The "Federal Marshals," partial failure merely augments the fresh from Alcatraz and the like, whom criminals' need for some signal victory the juvenile Czar had used for his over Americans to preserve enthusiasm invasion of Mississippi, could have been in their own ranks. As I write, shortly counted on to beat some of them to before Christmas, it does not seem that death or murder them v/hile "trying to that victory can be attained before the escape." The sadists whom we have New Year, but we may be sure that imported as "mental health experts" every efTort will be made to attain it as could have tortured others into fake soon as possible thereafter. "confessions" or have destroyed their The first expedient was primarily minds with drugs. There could have defensive. In a hasty and thus far suc- been a national Saturnalia of legalized cessful attempt to thwart an investiga- violence under cover of which the tion by legally constituted authorities, International Conspiracy could have i.e. Senate Subcommittee on In- the gained a control of the whole nation ternal Security and the Attorney Gen- that could not subsequently have been eral of the State of Texas, both of broken. whom had already announced their de- 24 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 731 termination to conduct an impartial gang which meets annually in some city inquiry, an illegal and un-Constiiutional abroad to plot the liquidation of the "special commission" was improvised United States. As promptly as Warren, with the obvious hope that it could be Boggs began to yell that the "right- turned into a Soviet-style kangaroo wing" (as he and his kind call Ameri- court. The best-known members of this cans who don't want to be liquidated) packed "commission" are: was guilty of having shot Mister Jack. (1) Earl Warren, so notorious as the (3) Allen W. Dulles, one of the chief of the quasi-judicial gang engaged founders of the malodorous Council On in subverting the Constitution of the Foreign Relations and currently its Di- United States that many thousands of rector. Dulles was the head of an the finest and most prominent Ameri- American spy ring in Switzerland dur- can citizens have for two years been ing the Second World War and is said demanding with increasing insistence to have done a fairly good job, although his impeachment and trial. A favorite it was believed at the time that his subject of speculation and debate among organization was infested with double some informed observers is whether agents who were really in the employ Warren, if brought to trial, would try — of the Soviet and even more serious to dodge behind the Fifth Amendment implications can be drawn from the or would take it on the lam and disap- testimony given in Karlsruhe last July pear behind the Iron Curtain. Warren, by Heinz Felfe, a Soviet agent who had who spends his vacations with Little been Mr. Dulles' German counterpart Comrade Tito in Yugoslavia or with and supposed competitor in Switzer- Big Comrade Khrushchev in the land. Crimea, began to traduce and defame .Our Central Intelligence Agency, al- loyal and informed Americans minutes though it was infected from the very after the murder in Dallas; and it is beginning by the incorporation of scum easy to see why the Communist Party, from the notorious O.S.S., was still an through some indiscretion or mis-tim- American agency while it was under ing, officially nominated him as head the command of Admiral Hillenkoetter. of the "special commission" two days Under Mr. Dulles it was transformed before his appointment was announced into the bizarre gang of seventeen in Washington. thousand or more secret and faceless (2) T. Hale Boggs, the loud-mouthed agents, some of them expert assassins agitator who disgraces the State of so recently imported into the United Louisiana in Congress. The Councilor States that they cannot speak English. has reproduced a press photograph Mr. Dulles' C.I.A. is also the gang that which shows young Boggs in the act helped Castro attain power in Cuba, of giving the Communist clcnchcd-fist staged the fake "invasion" to destroy salute while he was head of the Com- ariti-Ccmmunist organizations in Cuba, munist-front "American Student Union" recently carried out (in close coopera- in Tulane University, ridiculing our tion with die Soviet Secret Police) the Army, and urging young men not to murders in South Vietnam as a prelude fight for their country. The same publi- to complete and open Communist oc- cation reports that it has indisputable cupation, and is known to have served evidence that Boggs "served three years the Soviet in many other ways, while, before entering Congress" as chairman so far as is known, it has never done of a Communist-front "Peace Drive," anything at all for the United States, and reports that he is a member of the whose taxpayers provide the gang with "Interparliamentary Union," a sinister unlimited funds. Some perhaps frenetic | FEiiKUAKY, 1964 25 Oliver Exhibit No. 2 Oliver Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 732 investigated by Congress long ago. McCJloy is reptited to be the principal author of the present plan to disarm the United States and prepare it for occupation by Soviet troops and asso- cialed savages of the "United Nations," which he, as an assistant i>f Alger Hiss, hcliKcl to design and foist on the American people. Well, thor,c four form a majority of the "fact-finding commission" and their records oiler a gtiaranlcc of the kind of "facts" they will find or devise. Two of the other members are self-styled "Liberals" of litilc political experience, and it is obviously idle to speculate concerning what Senator Russell may be able to do alone in such company. It should be noted that the very creation of this Soviet-style "commis- sion" in violation of our Q)nstilution - / ... J i — . - 1 and for the express purpose of super- Tho \7 or!:or proposed Warren. seding legal and Constitutional pro- —based upon this and observers believe cedures represents in itself a victory for other "coincidences" — that the C.I. A. is which the Communist Conspiracy now major branch of the Soviet the would have been willing to pay almost Secret PoHcc in the United States. any price, '"since it accelerates the disin- It was to Mr. Dulles personally that tegration of and accustoms legality the late Bang-Jensen trustingly con- Americans to dictatorial acts that sub- fided evidence that very important vert the authority of Congress. members of the C.I.A. were ofTicers in The functions of a "commission" so the Soviet Secret Police, and Mr. Dulles constituted are obvious. It will: did nothing at all about it— unless, (1) Cover up for the Communist indeed, it was the C.I.A. that murdered Conspiracy as much as possible by I5ang-Jenscn to prevent him from ever claiming that Comrade Oswald was a giving testimony. poor, lone critter who done it all alone. One writer has recently suggested Prf)bably "psychiatrists" will be pro- that it was the C.I.A. that arranged the duced to prove he done it 'cause, at the assassination of Kennedy; I know of age of six months, he had to wait an no evidence to support that opinion, extra five mintites for his bottle. That but obviously Mr. Dulles' creation is will establish the need for more Wel- open to suspicion. Perhaps that is why fare and Civil Rights. he is a member of the "special com- permanently the report (2) Su[iprcss mission." of the F.B.I., which it has already acted (•4) John J. McClc>y, of the Qjuncil to conceal from the American people, On Foreign Relations, the Forci Foun- and, if permanent suppression proves dation, the World Brotherhood, and impossible, to have the report watered other mysteriously powerful organiza- down or at least kept secret until a tions who.<:e un-American or anti- "crisis" can be arranged that will make Aiiierican activities should have hocn its publication pass almost unnoticed. 26 AMERICAN OPINION Oliver Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 48 733 (3) Smother and suppress the evi- dence of close contacts between Oswald and R nstein in both Waco and Dallas ing the period immediately preccdi..;^ the assassination of Kennedy, and other evidence connecting both of them with mysteriously prosperous persons of unknown antecedents in the vicinity of New York City. Every effort will be made to conceal Rubcnstein's connections with Communist Cuba, in- cluding such items as a clandestine visit to Havana about a year ago, when he stayed with a long-time and close asso- ciate of Castro's named Praskin, who operates, as a cover for his other activi- ties, a "novelty store" on the Prado opposite the Seville Hotel.* It may even be possible to prevent the public from learning defmitely whether or not the "Jack" Rubcnstein who executed Os- wald is the person of the same name The Communist clenched-fist salute. who has a published record of Commu- nist associations and activities in this should themselves be on trial for their country going back for many years. efforts to subvertand destroy the Con- (3) Harass the Dallas police as much stitution. Since no American cow is as possible. This will convey to police wealthy after having been milked by forces everywhere an understanding of the Income-Tax collectors, and since the inadvisabiliiy of interfering with the majority of conspicuously loyal Communists engaged in the discharge Americans are persons of very modest of their duties. I doubt that the "com- means, just one item, the cost of em- mission" will go farther than this, al- ploying attoriK-ys, could give the gang though I confess that I am disturbed the power to inhibit and even paralyze by the persistence with which the most of the opposition to treason in the "Liberal" columnists around the v/orld, crucial year of 1964. It is possible, of from France to Australia, insist that course, that the "commission" may poor Oswald, an innocent little Com- simply assume such powers. If so, Con- munist, was "framed" by the "Fascist" gress will probably object; but, if it police of Dallas. should be necessary, the august Chief (4) Try to smear and intimidate loyal justice could dash over to the Supreme Americans in every way possible. Much Court Building, put on his black robe, can be accomplished in this direction if and rule that Congress, like God, is the Congress can be pressured into vot- un-Constitutional. It's just a ten-minute ing un-Constitutional powers of sub- trip by cab. poena to an un-Constitutional "com- (5) To go as much further as may mission" dominated by persons who be feasible. It is reported in the Press that "commission" has requested the *I understand that full report on this and other the power to "extort" testimony from known activities of Riibonsuin T/ill probably ap- "unwilling witnesses." At die time at pcir in a future issue of The lUrjIJ of Freedom (Box 3)3, Statcn Island 1, N.Y.). which I write, it seems unlikely that FEBRUARY, 1964 27 Olivor E:rhib:lt No. 2 Oliver Exhibit No. 2 —Continued 734 . any such un-Coiistitutional power will McCormack, as now provided by law. be un-Constitutionally granted. Of {Newstvccl^, THE WEEKLY LiEPAPER pub- course, the original plan, ro have been lished by the Washington Post, had the carriedout evtntually, if everything eiTrontery to state the cau.se for alarm: went according to schedule in Dallas, McCormack is suspected of "anti- 'Com- called for nice, rubber-lined torture munism"! ) The Conspiracy, however, chambers (such as you may glimpse in might go so far as to arrange the that excellent film, My Latt/la) in assassination of some Justice: That which the hated Americans could be could, perhaps, made to be seem scientifically tortured into "confession," plausible after the Warren Court has and the remains of those who proved maltreated a number of Americans in "uncooperative" could be efficiently its usurpation of un-Constitu- latest washed down the drams. tionalpowers, and it is, furthermore, (6) To create propaganda for other the only sure way of preventing an Communist projects to facilitate the impeachment and trial by Congress. final conquest of the United States. A But another assassination would seem number are likely, but the most obvious a bit monotonous, unless preceded by is the one that was contemplated when several other incidents of a different Oiinrade Oswald was careful to provide pattern. A hundred varieties of incidents evidence that the rifle used in the assas- are possible, such as first-class race riots, sination had been purchased by mail. an "accidental" nuclear explosion to It is eminently desirable that firearms pep up agitation for "disarmament," or now in the possession of Americans be a well planned series of almost con- confiscated, partly to convince the Con- vincing "suicides" of American "right- spiracy's serfs how helpless they are, and ists." A properly timed "crisis" in Latin especially reduce the occupational to America, preferably near to our bord- hazards to the Balubas, Outer Mon- ers, would be a suitable intermezzo golians, or other beasts who may form during the performance. We cannot the "international police force" that is now predict precisely what arrange- to occupy the United States and butcher ments the unknown Directorate of the its white inhabitants. Conspiracy will deem most expedient, (7) To co-operate when the Con- for it is likely that their choice of both spiracy .srrangcs for further violence. time and events will be made after they We may be sure that such will occur at have seen how much advantage they the earliest feasible moment, and that will have been able to extract from the every precaution will be taken to avoid Kennedy assassination. a slip-up such as occurred in Dallas. It One thing is certain, however: The is impossible to predict at this moment bungle in Dallas, far from justifying when such an incident will occur or the slightest relaxation, should summon what form it will take —except, of us to the utmost vigdance. It should course, that the blame will fall on warn us that we have come to the year "right-wing extremists." The assassina- of decision, and that only our most tion of other high government officials devoted and united efforts can prevail is an obvious possibility —perhaps too against a gang of international mur- obvious, despite the sudden y3ew y. ^^!3• ©e. ...»;.o-. ..«,fn« t. J. HIDEll WAS ::.f:"ir;;; "l^i'"^''i":;;;.r;!"c"„.h.,. oswaio's party name 2 1 YEARS OF HATE ..i,o ,..»l.Uo„.,i... . . Booth And Oswald Vhlk^A Soma French trl^§?iS^^ Charter Streets A ^m&ei Years Apart ifiii;iii;'r±..'l!:'!!:!^ I TMcbatOM- ,'body " — passing by on the other men had just gone for to run. The girl's parents then refused the road lunch. Young Beebe had eaten "So I shot again,I and then Morris tlien I told police ! Morris didn't explain just how- [earlier and was all alone al the again. And he leU." I to let their daughter see Morris I about his weird reason tor sboot \ he thought no trouble would U: ditch , The second shut missed but Lng Beebe and finally said: 1 Morris hrooded about it tor causod 6>- shootins ao injiucent • Murris later said: "It could [the third broke Beebe s spine ' "I did it t>ecause I didn't have teveral vr«rits. He l^ttt^r said have l>een anyone who passed. pierced his lurg and killed him.' the nerve to shoot myself. "She's the only one who cared In any event, as he looked 'But when I looked out the Neighbors ht^ard the shois and '"1 jus* wanted to be put out about me. There's no reason out the window of his home, he window and saw him over there. called police. ot t^e way. that's all." for me to live anymore." spotted Beel>e. I just aimed the rifle and fired." A dozen polic; raced to the Last February 12 Morris Last November 6, while hts Beebe was shoveling dirt from The shot hit Bcbe in the left scene and surrounded the Mor- pleaded guilty to second-degree stepfather was at work and his a shallow ti shoulder, knocking him down. ns home. murder. mother was out shopping, Mor- of ght-r Terrified and unaware of They called to the boy to And on March 18 Judge PhUipi ris turned from brooding to crew, of which his fatli where the shot had come from. come out but he refused. So Pratt put hira out of the way - deadly action. foreman, digging a pipe trench Beebe staggered to his feet and police crept through the base- but with a life sentence. Washington Insiders Are hdi [UmIIdv ^oi]d!l L©3 ®%iidi ^d% (Cootinut^ from preceding page! spent more than two hours c-n ferring r "By shooting Officer Tippitt, " 'Then ths higher-ups in the instead of trying to make him- conspiracy orde;*^d somebody to self inconspicuous, Oswald put kill Tippiit. Part of the master Many think he was the agent ot a ring which most definitely included Jack Ruby as on According to the Times. Weiss- himself in double jeopardy His plan, the way I figure it Ma- the conspirators." man had l>een ai>ked by one re- act almost guaranteed his ar- .-ina's (Oswalds widow) part of The UPI report also notes- porter to comment on Lane's rest. It. too. CIA or one of those that Serge Grussard. "om • France's l>cst known journal-^ statement. •Why? agencies' Weissman said that he had "A whodunit fan would infer Speculation that Oswald was ists."wTote from Dallas: never met Tippitl or Ruby or that the policeman knew some- not working alone was also voic- * 'Very probably Ruby killed' Oswald thing about Oswald that was so ed in a United Press Internation- him to shut his mouth forever, And Weissman also said he dangerous he had to \k silenced al dispatch from London which for Oswald could not have actotli " had never been in Huby's Carou at any cost, even Oswald's was printed in the \ewark. X.J , alone.' sel Club. chance of escape and freedom." Star-Ledger on April 19. In the I'nited Slates, the War-^ Then columnist Dorothy Kil- Oswald's mother. Mrs Mar- "Millions of Europeans refuse ren commission continues to gallen .aised this 'impoilanl guerite Oswald, pointed to" still to believe that the assassination listen to testimony from the question" in her nationally syn- another possible explanation for uf John F. Kennedy was not part many people concerned in the' dicated columo on April I-l. the murder of Tippitt of a larger conspiracy that has "Why l#e did Harvey Os When Mrs. Oswald was ask- still not been exposed." the dis- But the most fantast;.' revela*) wald, presumably ed, "Who killed Tippitf*" by patch said. tion tocome to the commissiwii fleeing' from the police after 'the assassina- Bob Considinc of the Journal- "The most respectable news- was the communicalion froiUi approach Patrolman J D American, she replied in his papers and radio and television the Justice Dept. to the Dallas^ tion, — column ot March 13: stations in western Europe feed Police Department Tippitts car in broad day- light, with wiinesses standing by ** "Nobody seems interested in this viewpoint by giving promin- If this document exists. The* — and shoot the policeman how Lee got out of the Bonk ence to reports that insist that ENQUIUER feels it is the ri^t Oej>ository the dsy of the assas- Uie late President was slain as of the American public to know three limes, although Officer wanted by the autlv^ntic? al a; sinalion. Tiio place was sur- part of a lefl-wmg or a riglit- jt It. Tippitt had not said a word to Oswald? spectacular crime docs not k rounded by police, absolutely wing plot. Is tl»c Warren commission — out a policeman, usually. surrounded. Yet Lee walked 'On both sides of the Iron and all other interested agencies "A man who knuws he Is less he has decided to • ! — gi\e him- ight by them Curtain, the beliet is widespread and officials keepmg the lid c self up, and certainly OswaiJ how? that Lee Har\ey Oswald wcs not this shocking secret? Poge 18 was not doing Uiat. 'Because Tippitt took l>iin out. a psychopath who acted aiono. Only time wUJ telL OovER Exhibit No. 5—Continued 744 s Oliver Exhibit No. 6 Zibe lieral6 of fr 45 BAY STREET STATEN ISLAND 1. N. Y. VOLUME IV, Number 12 January 17, 1964 SCOPE OF SOVIET ACTIVITY IN THE U.S, This was the title of a long series of hear- security risks have been protected and cover- igs and reports made by the Senate Internal ed up in our government for almost thirty ecurity Sub -Committee of the Senate Judici- years in spite of repeated F. B. I. warning ry Committee. These hearings, together w ith reports. Findings of Congressional Investi- le ones conducted by the same Committee on gating Committees have shown that traitors Interlocking Subversion in Government De- and Soviet agents have remained in key spots artments" and the "Institute of Pacific Re- in government, even in highest places, for as itions," gave to those Americans interested long as seven and eight years after the F. B. I. thorough and clear picture of the activities gave full reports of their activities to the de- f Soviet agents, American Communists and partment heads, to the Attorney General and thers who acted as their agents, operating even to the President of the United States, with )r years in our country, and the fantastic no action being taken. On this subject we re- Dwer they have been able to obtain. commend "No Wonder We Are Losing" by Robert Morris, and "For The Skeptic" by The assassination of President Kennedy is Lyle Munson. aocking to all Americans and to the entire ee world, but it is only the beginning of such SPECIAL INVESTIGATING COMMISSIONS - :ts of terror. In the confessions and trial of There is no possibility that the Warren Dviet Intelligence Agent Bogdan Stashynsky Commission will make the truth known to the ising the alias of Josef Lehmann) in Karlsruhe, American public, for this would lead to the ermany, for the murder of Ukranian anti- exposure of thirty years of pro-Soviet activi- ommunist leaders, Dr. Lev Rebat and ties and policies of too many people in high tephan Bandera, valuable information was places in our government and in our country. Dtained. The Roberts Commission which v/as very Stashynsky, an admitted Soviet assassin, similar to the Warren Commissic va.s faced bated he had been studying English and, after with an investigation of the Japan. ttack on : ne more Ukranian murder, was to be sent to Pearl Harbor. They reported tha. . Jrr.iral ngland or the United States. It was learned Kimmel and General Short were negligent, Iso that other Soviet agents were in training for which was completely untrue. Years later a ssignments to murder anti-Communist leader s Congressional Committee revealed that we had nd officials in the United States and England. broken the Japanese code, that we had inter- cepted messages of the impending attack and It is a matter of record that on April 23, the ships could have been at sea and the planes 963, the West German government (Federal aloft, and 3, 500 lives could have been saved. epublic of Germany) filed a formal diplomatic rotest with the U. S. S. R. against the use of Captain L. F. Stafford, U. S.N., who was iiurderers and pointed out that suchpractices in charge of security of Naval Communications, ire contrary to International Law. swore that on Dec. 4, 1941, a war ning of the . impending Japanese attack was received in Stashynsky had married an East German Washington, D. C, another on Dec. 6, 1941, irl, Inge Pohl, but was not allowed to do so and a final one three hour s before the Japanese ntil she had been sent to Moscow for investi- attack. President Roosevelt not only knew ation, study and testing. One of Stashynsky' the attack was coming but had deliberately been o-criminals who has not yet been apprehended provoking the Japanese into it. 3 Georgy Akentevich. Roosevelt, who had promised Am.ericans ;OVER UPS - "again and again and again" that their sons Com.munists, Soviet agents and jmosexual would not be sent to fight on foreign shores. OuvER Exhibit No. 6 745 SCO P E OF SOVIET A C •[' I V I TY i: THE could only i\'.l;ill hi.s promise to Clmri. hill to M,,i-iui-:; o; :ptcmbcr 10, 195 V. ;:'ct '"". "•• :: ir.to llie war if \vc v.'crc aLt.ikkcd ... . .;. iiito waat'.ai; w.ir. The ,tr,-,i,..,i.-d he had renounced the United States, .\iter i\... .1 .: . '. I'l r,ni iri.;iou h.ad a job to do vviiich ..t.tyed in the Soviet Union two and one-half years \sVl.-> to protect KooscvcTt by plar i;.; ilu- blame and married the daughter of a colonel in the lsv_vv'hcre, aamcly on Kiivanct .nnl Short. Soviet latclligcncc, he v/as given a passport to come backto the United States along with his Con The Warrcii Commissioa had a job to do munist wife and their child. He was advanced also ar.d, like the I\.oI)crts C<.i:r.:v.i.soion, will .'?-lJ5. 71 by the U. S. Embassy and the U.S. offi- probably cio it well. .^.'..a . r .,... A: ..> i. .;n ^ > , cials in Moscow issued the new passport on order public wants the truth t.ay %. i; i...\a_ :., .. n ; from the Stntc Department in V/ashirigton, U. C, throtigh other mcar.s. Thirf could be th.rough On June 24, 1963, he applied for a passport at the Senate Internal Security Sub-Con-intittcc New Orleans, stating he was a photographer and which has already given us more truthful ac- was going to visit Poland and the Soviet Union, curate information onour enemy than any other aii.ong other places. In spite of all that was source. Another way would be for patriotic known about him, a nev/ passport was issued ..ewspapcr publishers, columnists, anti-Com- within twenty- four hours. This was done by or- .tiunist publications and speakers to dig into der of and under the authority of .-^bba Schv/artz the case and bring all the facts out into the head of the Bureau of Security and Consular open. Affairs of the State Department. V'/ithin minutes after the word was received of the arrest of THE ASSASSINATION' - Oswald for the assassination of the Prcsidcat, Tito Jklexican inimigration inspector Abba Sc.h.wartz was seen hurrying to remove " .•. stationed at Nuevo Laredo made a report in file on Lee li. Oswald. Schv/artz has a very :.- which he advised that Lee H. Oswald, wearing teresting background aside from the Oswald r.a.se a "sailor" t'j'^e (or Marine) uniforni, crossed from Texas to Mexico at his station in the Lee IL Oswald had been corresponding v/i;': company of another man and two women on Coir.munist Party Headquarter s, 23 West 2c it. September 26, 1963. After the assassination New York, N. Y. His correspondent was Arnold of President Kennedy the inspector gave this Johnson, an official of the Communist Party on report to the American Consul at Nucvo l^aredo t',.^: r.ational level. In the last letter written uy and he in turn forwarded it to the U. S. Em- Jo'.-...:iOn to LeeH. Oswald there appeared the fo' bassy in Mexico City. The report, unless i-. ...tructions: "STAY IN DALL.-\S - STIC! . it has been disposed of, should be in the file s of the State Departnient at present. The name of the Mexican iminigration official who made ci-nber 29, 1963, the X^uai^a, Gc;-.-a . . the report is Raul Lucbano. "Deutche National Zietu;;;^ ar-a.tc- - mg, which (translated into Englis'.-.; re: . "•Vhcr. Oswald visited the Cuban Acc '.-[. ...rderer of Kennedy made an atten.pt Co;.£u. ;j a. Mexico City on September 27, L. .S. Geaeral Walker's life early in the suntrra iv63.. ..._ cor.vcrsation with Castro Con- ... .. v.h.a.i General Walker was sitting in his study. sul, Eus^oia .-izcue, who was recalled to Ha- T'r.e bullet missed Walker' s head only by inchc vana shortly afterward. After the assassina- Gbwald was seized, but the. following investigat tion, when Mexican security officers visited - as it was reported to us - was stopped by U. the Cuban Consulate to seek information about General Attorney Robert Kennedy. In the cad Oswald, the Castro officials at the Consulate that Oswald would have been investigated, he became very indignant and sent word to Ha- eventually would have been imprisoned for m.a vana. Castro officials in Havana were so years and so he would not have been able to disturbed that they threatened to break off commit the murder of John F. Kenr.cay, the diplomatic relations with Mexico unless the brother oi Robert Kennedy. '' inquiries stopped. , Jack Leon Rubenstein, alias Jack Ruby, :h At the time Lee H. Oswald first applied fo r murderer of Lee H. Oswald, was a notorious a passport to go to the Soviet Union he was character who has been close to . still in the Marine Corps. In filling out his ap- in Chicago who were murdered a plication at Los Angeles, California, passport narcotics distributor. I'.c was i: office he listed his occupation as shipping ex- rackets, including strip tease "jot port agent, which was false. He received his girls and has had contacts inHav,. .. .:.; ^a,-'. passport the day before his discharge from the visited Havana within the past year i;i viol^f.o Oliver Exhibit No. 6 —Continued 746 , - SCO OF SO V lET ACTIVITY IN THE Dcpartmcat rtigulations. While there, |ttc name of "Father Dimitri," the Pastor of the Isitcd his frioad Praskin who owns and Ruf^Pinn Church. He is the i^ev. Robert Frank rates a novelty store on the Prado in H avana Koyster, an American born ordained Baptist Poss the street ironi the Hotel Seville. Praskin minister, the son of Paul Freeman Royster, a kr.own long-tinic Castro collaborator. He who was for many years Assistant FederalHigh- a native Cuban married to an Ainerican girl, way Administrator in the Department of Com- iskin is involved in strip tease and jjarty merce in V/ashington, D. C. s as a side line. The above inlormation received troin Havana bv one of the best TEXAS, STRONGHOLD OF REACTION OR rr.icd men in the Slates on Soviet and RADICALISM? - isti'o intelligence o On nc-Cfiiibcr 27, 19Ci3,the AiU>rr.cy C.-.u.o.rul of Texas, together with two assist- Another person more deeply involved in the several peace. officer s, armed wit'., swald ca uriusually protective press r. for arrest and search, raided t!-. ' .... lulii have us ;\c iri Mrs. Ruth Payne. She vV. Stanford, age 39, Sccretai' th; ^ M ..>.:. ol R. Payne, from stronghold of reaction. If the oni she is^le is at; engineer who se_^,.--,..^a. 500 to an actual 10, 000 is appf- . _ related to the wcaliiiyand socially prominent the country, the strength of the Cor.-.rr.a..-. . a .r jrbes family of Boston, Mass. He too is an ty is much greater than we are led to bcf-. . Itra-liberal" and has been a niember of the There really is a threat from within. Tierican Civil Liberties Union in Dallas for long time. SEN. JOE MC CARTHY, PATRIOT - Senator Joseph McCarthy was close to the Mrs. Payne, with whom the Oswalds were exposure of the true conspirators when they vfing atthe time of the assassination, was the decided to go "all out" after him, and a .s:udy ;ewho called the Book Repository to secure of the whole attack on McCarthy will reveal e job for Oswald. She is the one who called the Dower and forces behind the Consniracy. hn Abt, the Communist lawyer, for Oswald. Ithough Mrs. Oswald admitted seeing the ri fie Proud of the part it played in destroy; »the Payne property the night before the as- Senator McCarthy is the National Comm Lttee ssir.ation and noticing that it was gone on the for an Effective Congress, 200 East 42 5t. , oraing of the assassination, Mrs. Payne in- New York, N. Y. with a Washington, D. C. o , sts she did not even know of the existence of fice as well. To use their own words, " e rifle or its presence on her property. Her ccived numerous requests from member atements to reporters have been contradictory Congress. .. to compile material and org id even ridiculous. She claimed to have sold research data. We retained both voiua: . . ood to pay for Mrs. Oswald's hospital bill paid counsel arid provided such inaterial ner. Mrs. Oswald was actually a charity pat- requested. " nt. Mrs. Payr.e's unusual interest in and her ose a3soci:.;;oa v/irh the Oswalds may not be The ma.in objective of this group . . ; iportant iri the case as we are'asked to elected left-wing members of Congrc..„ -..^. to :lieve. defeat Conservatives and anti-Conamunists. Among those they have endorsed and supported There was m.uch- publicity about Mrs. Os- for election are: Mike Mansfield, Clifford P. ild {a Con-rnuiiist and daughter of an impor- Case, Stuart Symington, Henry M. Jackson, nt Soviet Ir.:eiIigcnco official) having her JohnS. Cooper, Hugh Scott, Frank Church, Paul foy secretly baptized by "Fai;her Dimitri, " Douglas, Wayne Morse AND Hubert Humphrey. astor o: St. Serafin's Eastern Orthodox hurch of Dallas, Texas. Her attendance at Their advisers and policy makers I:a\ e in- hristmas Mass was also v/ell publicized, cluded such "notables" as James Rooscveh, hat was not well publicized was the real arch enemy of those who expose Comxinunism; Oliveb Exhibit No. 6 —Continued 747 5 C O o I- i : VIT Y o . .•i:'.;;u;llov/ Barr, who hcis been a.f- to heljj in this undertaking. Steps have been aIiI-. more Cor.iniunist-fronts than taken to place all the material conccraing the Gus U.Jl; Clark of the Fabian Soci- l:2vans v,-.|.osures in the hands of several other i;.-i- aliol, pi-o-Con-^ui-ii-t Twentieth Cc-ntury Fuiul; viri-j,-.ilr-; who have a,-'rccd to make public, u;.ac Artliur . one day . 1 ^ ircumat .. the information, - be calU . . jjeople; -: which v. ivc been relucta.'it John I-L. . .us, i;.c . .-adio ^;h. So, in mc ovcr.i attempts are ir.ac coiTimc; . 1 Arth.vir v La top he Herald of FrcedoiTi from ijublis lilt 1 riian be;... who utly itiovck! . v:or.cs. .- ' v/hich v/e feel are necessary to :.:icts from his Vvaicori Towers apartnieiil to tjuar- start the ball rolling to return our governmer ters near the U.N. to honest American hands, these attacks v/;ll be the signal to release all information, all Telford Taylor, U, S. prosccutpr at facts v/hich are based on confidential investi- the I member gations and reports. of this C y lu, 1954, i; o those IniOi- received by your n h:.. '. who we .' o holiJ Sc;.. irthv El'.: Ic source, -.vho in expose . -i-acy as .. ; and v.:-- _. ..;j the Conspiracy, traitorous .ori-c. " Time wiii lcil who arc that ;i pl.-.i; is ocri^ .or :v.u fated and will short the members of the "felonious and traitorous he put into action to destroy the Herald of network" for it does exist, but Telford T aylor Freedom and its Editor. It v/ill follow the was trying to focus the light on patriots in- usual x^lan of an organized campaign of vili- stead of or. the actucl traitors, a common fication, harassment and personal attacks. priictic^ J -' c Wash- The namies of those involved have bee:, recordc ington \'. _ il ..ddress. Just so : , . ;j.j-:: made to tie , in patri.. .....^- ^jf I'.io President by Lee 1.. „.....^.., ...c :o^l of the Internation- Thcj" ^...-..^.. .>c proioctea ur.G su^-portcc- as the al Coii'iir.uaist Conspiracy. Conspiracy tries to discredit and destroy the one by one. The Anti-Communists m.ust not THE HOUR Cr OWS L-\TE - bicker and inust be tolerant of each others' The Conspiracy has made great progress shortcomings. The enemy has already cor.e and is u.- .•. weapon L' including '. . ;-.. '. , I'.-l. Tlie Comn~.'„ . .'.e Fabian Social:-: 1 , the blac .nd Tires s^. ^-'islators - V/orlder .,:ifists, theOccu".; r—DustrCjX ^ .. .-..-^ ^.ii united in a coop. ."ivcAct before tr.e cur:a' for the has: rises again, what used to be V.'iiea it thar. those they i:^ressure anc -....^:lca will be a province in the new ".'fori .-iTie to reverse the process i\c_ -.'i^fic as the Conspiracy ushers ir. t'.'.e ?C' ' i.-iastar; .se those who are doing these Order" it has worked for so long. ivil thin^ ^< :^;;;i sj: >t^c sjc ;{^:;s ^ :^ ^c ^ 5;< s|c 5[c tie :;e :{£ :Jc ^« :^! :Jc :{c :[{ Sje sj: :;c J}: ;;::;!:{<;;: s;; :;i sli :;c ;;= j;c :;« ;;; Extra copies of this issue - five for $1,00 -jatriot :^t/:.. working in v/Uh the -Ic of Freedom Fr;,r.k A. Capell, Editor of The K.iraid of '.vh , , vast amount of in- fer. . . . ..jople. We hope it wii. r.o: :;c.-csoury lo use it all and, in fact, ..-- wish it v.o;..c. possible to do what must be .: _• :; :ii ;;; ?;s ;j: ^ :;< sj: :!;;;;?!< :^ :^ s;; ^; ; :; done to :„--;-. ts.e tide Ouf revolution withoxit A new booklet by ^_„ Threat from Within, — -tor, entitled "Th< using any of it. Hov/ever, the situation is now is now available-oric so gra.ve and the conspiracy so far advanced one dollar per copy. that, unless those responsible for what has been goinq on are exposed, it will succeed in THE HERALD OF FREEDO.N! .\N'D its .. .. ':. . ..^^i-ld conquest. METRO'^'^- T^;X REVIEW .-'.oUshcQ bi-\ ;:-, The HERALD ^j : w ,^.,-:. ic .t- expose tho-e cxc-tiag the Fh:;; J DOM, P.O. . 45 Bay Stroci, Stalcn Island 1, ?;. Y. .'i,,.socriptio;: $6.u0 p^r pressures and assist those being pressured. yc^r or $3.00 for , . ix rr.onths." There arc many dedicated Americans, in the Frank A. CapcU, Eu. , Tel: Dav - Statcn ir.vestigatorial, rriilitary, legal, newspaper, Island, .N. Y." Gl 2-2340; Eve. - 6ound Brook, educational and governmental fields, available N. J. . 469-2088. Oliveb Exhibit No. 6 —Continued 748 — 'Ci-]0 NATIONAII '-. FlLTEPi iho AIR. YOU BREATHE R^ kefan H fit "• Ji»«« ' .Mrs. lied, Uanna Csu-ald, widow of Lee Harve>; OsiA'ald — that important I caid i I parts of his special commissioa's flnClT.sa would not be revealed 'iJ3 our lifetime," is that evidence indicate? thsa the c^vjassination [ b>- (or Presidoat Kennedy was engit^scr-i' bt Moscow ami wittingly I ; or financed by U S. government funds. ua"»ili.;r.,-jiy V- "The VVarren Commission has uncovered startling evidence • itiit Oswald made contacts with U.S. Intelligence and security jtrriciais before ar.d after his return from Moscow in June 1062. One [ socurity agency, in an affidavit filed with r- ' . £21 th« commission, admits three contacts with t •. j tOrwald following his return from Russia ~ i Connniision investigators have also ' gathered Information showing that Oswald i ' received government money and special ' help in obtainin;^ passports from a high- level State Department official, who han- :- d]es certain .secret operations of the Cen- : •' .ira! Intelligence Agency that involve his ! - .',' department. ,^ '> . . I Other circumstantial evidence in the jr". ^ commission's files links Oswald to the ; I mi.;. iKGB. the Soviet s secret police and assassin i IT n- [organization — making him a double-agent . , ' ; jsrtth loyalties •; the communists. ,.,!/. ' Becaiua Oi ':.c circumstantial nature of ; WAr;.;_,\ mtc.'-. '.' • -..rience and the impact it.s rev«lations wnuld have I j c-1 i iati'ins. Wa.-ren has indicited to othrr loni •'3;;-.- would be unwise to release thcae details is that It lafing ;.:f'time." Whether Warren will be able to make "01.: 'rls (decision s'ick is open to question. ? * * * -nt Johnson has promised HcJth, t^ucatioii & Wei- iry Anthony J. Celebreiae a federal judgeship if he •'.-• ,.. L-abinel until after election Ctiletirez:ie. the only iC4o. uf Halwa cau=3cii'3."\- Lamed ia- his resignation jaffp. ent shifted COC?^"''^'' "om* of his programs to Si.., — I ..linver, the - '*H»r ^f jf,p .Administration's Oliver Exhibit No. 7 749 4-731 O— 64— vol. XX 49 — !''' ' : , ' ^A LOT TO reme:::::^r omb Army -o^ nicer hm m hear t^e h'jrV sound. n,; 'an' a» Ar' : : ' '. wa- Slid. :.--f.riy "Tiie a rti,. ' .'I'.Ts wfre so iCennedy Fimerd quiet thm ord.rs couid be pass- ed to the men at a whisper ^nd stillbe heard " By KENNETH TOUJVER Capt. Ooy, who jradualed the f^!i",;crl pn'-;'; \n « rrmm'V V.'hen qu.ened about ar.y spe-, The mi'it.-iry orders Rovemmg from McComb H uzh School ini sion m i';'^, said that although cial requests that Mrs. Kenne- President K, li>>5, was in charge of the cais-f his comm.'iwl was ready for the dy may have made, the cap- tain s.ii^.:hal-^hi' had renu'-^t- I. on filled son section which carried the' state funeral, the actual site for 'd the a':<:!."jt'-nT!eriis Irom iiie President's coffin, the saluting the burial was nut known unti! battery which fired the 21 gun the day before the cercmLiny, ^"^'i ne caparr-ion horse," Capt.t f:aal salute and the fife and j "We issued all orders nri'ir to Cloy explained, "was the rider-j I drum corp which marched with being informed that it would ho te:s mount which was led ta^ the cortege. at Arrlinyton, so that we wiuM ' front of thB cortege. ij^lJJ^ "We were preparing the ac-. be prepared to conduct the rites b: tual funeral arrangements less cither in Washington or Bos- down than an hour after the president ton," Capt. Cby ."aid. ] »:nce George Washington was was shot," Capt Cloy said while; OBSERVATIONS pce n riSijfn. president."" stated r~"-''t. Rich- he was in McComb on lesvc. When asked about his person- i"~~H7m;EUVERED TOEM I "VVew-ere jn n st--'^ of ^rpdj- al observations during the fu- ; ^^t^^"c].jy, wh o imtil recoit ly such as ; neral, Capt. Cloy reported that ;• The accoutermer.ts •' J'~ " .rir'f;_xiltji r.i.':h,'d a '' ' ' was in comniind oz the Hcad- ri'-,'j -. "rTi-v-aiK.-. i... '. he had never .seen ruch genu- • the saddle, boots, .sabre and bri- - C .ny of the First' was grave cfscorn for Presi-i ine sorrow or such splendid c^ dle were delivered by Capt. - Lnfantry Divi- dent i;-:.-.Tr's b-eith. But we; c-.'r;:;cn from both the crowds ' Cloy to the White Hous* folkiw- der 0/ the mii- never c. .,..:,:.; .hr.t our D"ct;cd ,-.-;: cTi-ials Involved m the funeral. ing the •' r. revised the """5 ; ! iriy. "Another wish of Mrs. Kermis- 1 •-" t^ - 'Z honors due ---ji of stale. Kenn -t;:j _ .^-- J, that 1 could claariyi .'•as so silent on tlie dy." he recalled, "was the Irich honor guard, whirri wy hs'i to ' - . .. . 1 flv in for the tunerai Capt. Cloy said that the Firtt; Battalion is called the "Old i/. j Uc^c/r<'uA: /^ff^s ciARm-i/EDG^^ Guard" and that they conduct-} ed most of the ceremcniei cfi state in Washington such Mi guarding the tomb of the Va-\ known .V-idier/ j "One duty we did not h.:.va ." i r<^b, ^/. /9b1' he said, "was protect.ng any of I the officials That job was to' r>i» hand* of the Secret Sen?- minutes and each guard i. IZTCZTf 21, l^'A :tt C\znoti--ZzV7,tz a be supplied a clean and (re. h.y gun sa- she was impressed with tb« asked about specixl Dressed uniform everytime he w'.ich fU-c J the fnil 21 •vhon j p. iti'ms which aro-'e concern- returned to his post. BesidM lute for P.xslden: Kennedy and kindness of everyone invoIve«}i ink the state funeral, the cap- Jiat, the day of the funeral it jjj ^^i obtained "f. -_" of Pbf'-> and the consideration showf .tain ^aid that making sure th.it was ji"f riy im r"'^"M'^ t " jc- president. ho-;-<( when the the late j lie <£_o- fc aj the se n 'ri^'LJ ",".' .- r" loei following Capt. Cloy said that he and he parade r o;"", lor ov. • - ITf his wife felt great sympathy >.:: ,. tr, cHikig for my asked how the r:.'"^When for Mis. Ken.nedy. , Ci.. ^. i v-j i 'ii>ar the event - . ir.ar.y arduous duty, Capt. can look the "She kept showing up at the by," h: eoi....:.^.ted, . ;',11 loading at Cloy stated that "he never heard C.;;. Cloy's wife, Anne, is rotunda without notice and a! ... '..hp.n the cor- " a single complaint and that on il-.a «L!g'.".ter of S.Ir. and Mrs. all hours. Often the White was at ir.c g.-ive side the contrary, he heard some of te.ii-j ...,.,, „ „„ J. V/. Burt of .S"-n'nit and they House would call us at the . Capt. Cloy's command tooi; his men say that they felt ho^ I ^.^ chi.urcnriMichael. 6. cemetery and say that Lhey be- charge of the president's body ored to have the chance to be U, ,, . ,_j ci-i-~, ig lieved she was on her way to fro.-n the moment it arrived 1ji a part of the ceremony. \^-^^- *• "-"^ "'^^^ the graveside and when we ^ Washington and at least one 0' Capt. aoy, who is en route to ^j^^ 'c[oy<3id that the funer- would lock up from the phone . fic<»r was in constant atter,d h'S^XJ^''-^'^''^'"^;;^.^^^^ was c=: cf th3 most moving she would be already standing arc-« until the grave was fillec .'-_' .;,,' ^"^ ^"^^^"J^'fJTr'^' experiences of. her life and that at the gate." "K.en then," he commented. • v.^ M.-- :..•; thp i/'iard over showed sc*cra! mement03~'inat ; r ' -t r— he had obtained from the cere- ; ! - m'^iy He had saved two of the car- cases from the gunst — -_-: L I Oliver Exhibit No. 8 750 — /*- >*^ United States , 0/ America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES Of THE OO CONGRESS, SECOND SESSI ON VoL 110 WASHINGTON, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 1964 No, 169 A4596 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — APPENDIX Scplemher Communist in the United States. She The congressional district I represent "You may owe your life or at least your deplores Barry Goldwater, as is reported has just been visited by anot)ier Birch liberty to the vigilance and sagacity of Omccr D.'TlppIt, the pollcemau who stopped Leo in today's New York Times: leader. Dr. Rcvilo Oliver, member of the J. Harvey Oswald on the street and was mur- us. Reds Accuse Harlem tJnmsTa Sat E^t- society's national council. His remaiiLs dered by the conspiracy's well-trained but PINO Faction Stirred Trouble DtmiNO Riots are disgusting and shocking. He calls not Infallible agent. — Moscow. September 1. A leader of the the three civil rights leaders slain in Mis- "It's easy to see what could have happened Communist Party of the United States ac- sissippi "cockroaches." He says the had everything gone smoothly In Dallas." he cused the pro-Chinese Oommunlsts today funeral of the late President Kennedy added. "There could have been a complete of acting (\s troublemakers In the recent race was "well rehearsed" and "up to the breakdown of law and order everywhere. riots in Harlem. technical standards of Cleopatra and "The numerous vermin that have been Mra. EUv^abeth Gurley Flynn. i^Tltlng In living for years In Ill-concealed anticipation Pravda. condemned the Chinese Communists Ben Hur." of the glorious day when they will be able and Senator Barrt Goldwater In equal Wecan be proud that one of our Na- to hack Americans to pieces could have start- termt ond pledged the loyalty of the Com- tion's two great political parties has con- ed looting, burning, and murdering." munist Party of the United Btntea to the donmod on oreanlzation headed by such Oliver said Oswald had been trained in Kremlin. people as Dr. Oliver. We have plainly Moscow and wiolgnod to DftUna. Ho Would Her article was commemorating the 45th said to the Blrchers: "We don't want have made his escape after the assassination, anniversary of the party. She Is the party's but for Tlpplt's sharp police work. your votes." Debunking what he called the "adoration" national chairman. The "irresponsible policies of the Chinese The Tucson Daily Citizen, which nor- for the late President. Oliver said: "Jack leaders resemble the positions (on nuclear mally supports Republicans, sharply re- Kennedy was almost the equal of the actor war) taken by Goldwater and may lead to buked Dr. Oliver and suggested he peers who takes the role of Perry Mason In the a world holocaust." she wrote In the Soviet at the world "through paranoid spec- television series. He was able to recite quite party newspaper. tacles." I think the Citizen has per- convincingly the lines written by Salinger. "Our party Is mustering Its forces and all Schleslr>ger, and other word twisters whom formed a fine public service In calling people under Its Influence to defeat Gold- the taxpayers hire to confuse them. this man to account. "At times he sounded American and made water." she said. She charged that Mr. Following is the Citizen's report of Dr. Goldwater "was against trade unions, Ne- sense, and he seemed entirely credible until Comraunlstfl, social security, assist- Oliver's speech and the paper's editorial you realized how his achievements differed groes. ance to the aged, and unemployment In- of condemnation: from his announced intentions." surance," but that he was "for nuclear war (Prom the Tucson (Ariz.) Dally Citizen, He said Kennedy's "well-rehearsed' fu- Aug. 25, 19641 neral was "up to the technical standards of if necessary." Cleopatra and Ben Hur." Mr. Goldwatxr's candidacy was approved Slain Rights Workers Caixed Oliver said a "Kennedy cult" has grown by the Chinese Communists on the ground "Cockroaches" that what was worst for the United States up since the assassination. (By Eric Cavallero) "I have received letters from people who was best for Pelplng, Mrs. Flynn wrote. The three civil rights workers killed In wanted to know how it was possible for any- She said that the Communist Party of the Deep South this summer were "cock- one to be so debased as to criticize the the United States supported the Kremlin's greatest man who ever lived," he said. roaches who crawled Into the State of Mis- "peaceful foreign policy aimed at disarma- He quoted a letter from a man who called sissippi to Incite violence." Dr. RevUo P. ment and the liquidation of colonialism." Oliver said here last night. Oliver a "hatemonger" and then threatened Like "all Communist parties In capitalist The professor of classics at the University to squash his eyes out. "That one is from countries." she' said, the American Com- of nUnoLs and national council member of a iovemonger." Oliver said. munist Party has had to flght factionalism. the John Birch Society told a Tucson Press "The adoration of a semldivlne leader is Several years ago the party's extreme left Club forum: an example of the Socialist mentality," he advocated dissolution of party and was ex- "I'm truly astonished at the amount of ex- added. pelled for this, she wrote. The expelled fac- citement this has occasioned. I noticed in "Liberal Intellectuals stand on their heads tion then formed the Progressive Workers Washington a white woman was raped while and tell you that the world Is upside down." Movement, she said. praying In her home church, but I don't he said. "Not one of them ever proposed She charged that this movement, whose bear one peep of indignation from the or approved anything that would bring $1 of "views coincide with those of Chinese Com- liberals. profit to the American people. munist leaders," committed "adventurist ac- "I'm not sure who killed those people In "They have always taken for granted that tions and provocations" during the recent he added. "I strongly suspect Mississippi." the taxpayers' money should go to people events In Harlem. that the murder may have followed a com- who are too stupid, too lazy, or too savage to mon Communist pattern. They either do work." the work themselves or get someone else to He cited the Central Intelligence Agency do It for them. as "a body that has done the work of the "Those people are not entitled to one-tenth Soviet secret police for years." A Birch Leader Speaks, Disgustingly of the consideration or sympathy they have "^ Oliver's appearance here was sponsored by aroused." the American Opinion Bookstore. 1695 North EXTENSION OF REMARKS He described the John Birch Society as "a Magnolia Avenue. or patriotic organir^tlon whose principal func- tion Is to educate the American people • • • [Prom the Tucson (Ariz.) Dally Citizen, Aug. HON. MORRIS K. UDALL we are trying to distribute Information that 27. 19641 Is not getting out in other channels. or ARIZONA TiMK FOR THE BmCHERS TO "PTTT UP OR "We are trying to call people's attention Shut Up" IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES to significant events of which they have never heard," he added, "as well as those There's a crude saying a betting man will Thursday. September J, 1964 they have heard but forgotten." use to challenge his opponent in an argu- Mr. UDALL. Mr. Speaker, in Atlantic Oliver quoted a newspaper report which ment. "Put up or shut up," the saying goes. City last month we Democrats unani- suggested that Dallas police were ready to We think It's time to say "put up or shut mously and enthusiastically included in arrest Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby up" to some of the leaders of the John Birch at the time that an assassination attempt Society. our platform the following statement: was made on MaJ. Gen. Edwin Walker. And here Is what we mean: "Put up th« We condemn extremism, whether from the proof to support your charges, or stop making right or lelt. Including the extreme tactics "The story says they did not carry It out as they had been told by a high ofQcial in those charges." of such organizations as the Communist Party, the Ku Klux Klan and the John the Justice Department, they must not do so We direct this demand to one Revllo P. because it was a matter of national interest." Oliver, who was in Tucson Monday and made Birch Society. he added. "The story describes this official two speeches that night. He appeared at a This is in sharp contrast to the per- In such a way that It could only be Bobby Tucson Press Club forum and at a pubUc formance of the Republican elements Sox Kennedy." gathering at Doolen Junior High School. now in control of that party. They suc- In a talk last night at Doolen Junior High Dr. Oliver is an educated man. He Is. in cessfully resisted all efforts to put a spe- School, Oliver suggested that if Communist fact, a professor of classics at the University cific stamp of disapproval on the John plans had not gone astray, we would have of nilnots. He Is also a national councU had "a national Saturnalia of legalized vio- member of the John Birch Society. Birch Society. And the Republican lence under cover of which the International He mode some pretty wild and Irresponsi- nominee for President has consistently conspiracy could have gained control of the ble statements while he was here. He spoke told us what fine people are in the so- whoI« Nation." of the late President Kennedy's "well-re- ciety and that he has only some disagree- Ho rocMved a standing oration from a hearsed** funeral. Spealdng of three civil ment with one leader. Robert Welch. near-cftpadty crowd as be addod: rights workers killed this summer, he re- Oliver Exhibit No. 9 744-731 O— 64— vol. XX 50 751 " CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — A PPIINDIX 5i)7 records disclose many crises of tliis ra- all-oiUmiJ^^^^^^^^^^HPHHBB has lurc i.t,i incluUinK licavy flncs and J.nl .m nl-i !ice... the y<\iuliiwfstfrn States and 1m ciiii*in:iui.^ Dim, These fund.s are trust Iiind;: and sliould slums and substandard housing Is an out- 111: be accortled the same careful prolecllon standing testimonial that In a great democ- as those of deceased persons held in trust racy such as ours there arc no unimportant conu cour <• widows and orplians. people and that wc as a nation want for every The »a> l.ie pi ii ^ \i i f for llic benefit of M kiUcd child and family the opportunity of achiev- is Ui it police cai cl t li v v.h. It can be accomplished by Government ing their fullest potential as citizens. the President Som. f. n- hbiriW -il- supenision. insurance, -or investment Mr. Amis was born September 13. 1894, In rcid> hid blimcd Dili s-nt,l t \ Infers for standards to limit the range of trustee the assassination. If Lee Oswald had not Ncwt*>n County, Miss. His father was a been cauRht. the radical liberals undoubted- di.'icrction. Meridian, Miss., attorney and al.no was Judge ly would have broadened and intensltled I am well aware that it is too late In ot the equity court there. He was educated their attack In an effort to discredit and the present session to obtain construc- in public sciiools at Meridian and was vale- vilify many legaimate conservative organh-a- tive action on what is a hiiihly-contro- diclorlan of his high school graduating class. tior.s. versial matter. However, I am today In 1917 Amis was graduated from the Univer- But to EUgccst that this would have be- sity of Mlsi.l6iippl with two degrees, bachelor submitting a proposed bill for record of arts and bachelor of laws. Both were come an orgy of legalized violence Is to purposes and study, and I urge its care- peer at the world through paranoid spec- earned magna cum laude. ful consideration by interested Members tacles. 1. accomplishments Dr. Oliver deiicrlbcd the John Birch So- who may feel disposed to join me in The Public Housing Administration Fort .-.cty as "a patriotic organization whose prln- pressing tiiis matter at tlie opening of Worth Regional OlT.ce administers the Fed- cls>alfunction Is to educate the American the next session of Congress. cm! program of financial assistance to local people" about the Communist conspiracy. communities to provide low-rent decent, We're all for that. If they'll stick to It. safe and sanitary housing for Its lowest In- There Is a Communist con.iplracy which come families and the elimination of sub- threatens America and all the free world. standard housing In the eljrht Southwestern Marshall W. Amis The U.S. Government does not seem sufllcl- State's, including Texas. The five low-rent cntly alert to the problem or adept at coping housing projects of the housing authority of with it. EXTENSION OP REMARKS the city of Fort Worth that have eliminated But irresponsible and unprovable state- much substandard housing and provided ments such as those made by Dr. Oliver are 1.074 decent, safe, and ranitary homes for not eScctlve wea]>ons against communism. HON. JIM WRIGHT low-Income Fort Worth families is an exam- la the long run. Blrchers who talk like that OF TEXAS ple of Mr, Amis' leadership and administra- do more to hurt than help the antl-Com- tion of the program In this area. S.ncc 1939 mtmlst cause. IN THE HOUSE OF REPREyENTATIVES more than 65.000 low-rent housing units have Thursday, September 3, 1064 been provided in the Southwestern States Mr. WRIGHT. Mr. Speaker, on Scp- and more than 48.000 substandard shacks and slums have been eliminated as part of tomber 30 a distinguished public servant Welfare and Pension Funds He is the program. will retire from the public service. When it is considered that the locr»l hous- Marshall W. Amis, who has served ad- ing authorities arc encouraged to utilize EXTENSION OP REMARKS mirably and effectively sm reE:,'ional di- their low -rent housing units as stepping or rector of the Public Housing Administra- stones for self-improvement of low-income tion in Fort Worth. Tex., for many years. families, preparatory to advancement into HON. J. ERNEST WHARTON Since his record of service is an in- homes of their own. Mr. Ami:.' efforts through or NEW YORK the years huve undoubtedly resulted in the spiration to many, and since through IN THE HOUSE OP REPRESENT.^TTVES rehabilitation and uplifting of hundreds of his dedicated years of work in our Fed- thousands of low-Income families. Almof^E Tuesday, Septeitiber 1. 1964 eral Govei'nment. he has assisted so every day we receive reports of low-income Mr. WHARTON. Mr. Speaker, the re- many Americans to achieve a better and families that have progressed up the eco- more comfortable life. I am including nomic scale through the temporary help re- cent conviction of labor leaders who mis- here a statement of hi.s public service ceived in obtalnmg a decent place to live appropriated welfare and pension funds at a rent suiTicientiy low to be met by their written by George Parker, the rc;.aonal of their unions have prompted a number limited means. A doctor who is now serv- attorney for the Public Houslns^ AUminis- of my constituents to inquire as to the ti-.g on the board of one of our local hous- ti'alion in the Fort Worth regional oHice: possibility of depicted welfare funds and ing authorities recently told a member of our Federal protection in this area. St.atement in Honor or Marshall W. Amis. office that without the temporary help of ON THE Occasion of Hi.s Ui;tikemfnt From living in a low-rent housing project while These funds are established to pro- Public Service. September 30, 1964 In medical school he could not have com- vide death, disability, and retirement Marshall W. Amis has served with great pleted his medical education and supported benefits for employees, and represent an distinction and success as rcfrional director his wife and small children. Another heart- incentive for increased production and of the F»ubllc Housing Administration since warming example of the success of Mr. Amis' continued employment. Tiiey are a part the retjional office was first established in dedicated war on poverty was the recent an- of the worker's compensation and he has Fort Worth on June 30, 1939. except for ap- nouncement that the valedictorian of a high 3 vested claim in them just as he does proxim-atcly 5 years ( 1 948-53 ) while Mr., school in this area was a product of a low- Amis acted as general covmsel of the agency rent housing project whose family had for- to liis private savinrs account. in Washington, D.C. Mr. AmLs will complete merly resided In substandard housing. Thou- Regretfully. I find li'.at existing Fed- neiirly 33 years of devoted exemplary Federal sands of young people in the Sovithwestern eral banking and labor statutes do not service on September 30. 1964. when he area have escaped the bonds of poverty protect the worker a.iainst unscrupulous reaches the age of compul.sory rcllrement. through the help of a decent, safe, and sani- employers or trustees who may raid the and we believe that It Is particularly fitting tary heme made possible by Marshall Amis* fund. This is particu'.arly true of small and timely that this outstanding public serv- leadership. ant be recognized on tho occasion of hts In addition to his accomphshments with corporations which. .:. desperation and retirement. respect to the low-rent housing program, on the verge of bankruptcy, sometimes The best evidence of the cxcrpUonal iiblUty Mr. Amis and his ofTice rendered out.